How To Social Engineer INTPs (The Ardent) | Cognitive Functions | CS Joseph

CS Joseph discusses how to social engineer INTPs (The Ardent) using cognitive functions.
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[@lphoebe3634]

Setting reminder because I need to social engineer myself

[@Jess-yv7zc]

LOL. I manipulate myself by bribing myself to do chores and yard work with science books.

[@jessstanford6115]

Same here!!!

[@sofia8574]

1. Find an NTJ 2. become their friend They’ll help you

[@Shadow77999]

You cant do that

[@Shadow77999]

@@EternalBeingOfficial true man, thx

[@ikondevon]

Oy, that classic ENTP 30 minutes to tell an anecdote that could've been delivered in 3 sentences and a punchline.

[@mdimarco87]

ENTP's are pure points. He is an INTJ.

[@clintwestwood4545]

@@mdimarco87 tf how

[@nicodiangelo3308]

@@mdimarco87 wuut?? How did you get there???

[@anduro7448]

Deliver it in 3 sentences and a punch line then

[@nicodiangelo3308]

@@anduro7448 👏👏👏

[@ManOfManyMemes]

Can't social engineer me if I never meet or talk to anyone :^)

[@Jinx-iw6zb]

That's the ultimate defense strategy

[@utena8518]

nope, not talking to anyone can actually go against you

[@iexist8156]

That will never happen (shouldn't you learn from this lecture)

[@dalewight6623]

He can if he uses that Elder Wand!

[@12233445566abc]

^ this... the possibility of social engineering of me is remote due to a paucity of relationships

[@SasinduMendis]

As an INTP only thing I don't like about CSJ's lectures is him taking HOURS to deliver 15 minute content. Also those weird impressions.

[@kurtcocain86]

Sasindu Mendis Joker. Sit through it, because he does have the knowledge...INTP myself

[@ttrainor70]

Watch 'em at 1.5 or 2x speed. C'mon, now...

[@beautyfooyanny]

AND I TOT I WAS THE ONLY ONE FEELING THIS. Wish there was a transcript so i can just speed read and pick the main points... THE LONG-WINDEDNESS IS KILLING MY BRAIN CELLS. (INTP here)

[@pohkeee]

Tim Trainor : bravo! Verified INTP. I bought YT premium for speed control..my brain has adapted to 3x on Audible too...now YT 2x is extremely doable...downside? I get frustrated from “real world” slowmo conversations 🤷‍♀️🖖

[@ryanreeves7621]

Maybe it's not an INTP trait to be bothered by this, so I will ask, do you not find the juvenile mock voices irritating? It might just be me and the few cohorts I introduced this channel to. Maybe something in the water in Idaho... But, man that gets on my nerves. i.e 12:10-12:45

[@solomolo9989]

As soon as he said that people only ask INTP what they think when they need help, I got triggered. Too real, too real.

[@jolielaide2494]

far too real

[@tahah.babikir7698]

I call it the animal reflex. Because animals run away from humans except if they're in trouble...

[@jehriasean6379]

It shows how selfish people are in general. I mean all people. Only asking what someone thinks when they need help. I do something similar I believe.

[@ukemochi9082]

I can't get why, you guys are so brilliant! I really love the objective perspective about everything you have. Also you combine it with your amazing sense of humor. You are the wiser people I've ever know and really lovely to be with and share thoughts and ideas. I'm married with an INTP myself and he's the only person in this world I trust insights with eyes closed. I feel the luckiest woman in the world for him choosing me to share his life with.

[@BL00DYR0S31]

I mean I don’t mind helping people. I don’t do it for recognition. It’s just a reflex response if you ask me besides I’m not dumb enough to give people an arm and a leg. I help in moderation but if you take it too far just so you know I’m a petty person.

[@robertleelandjob]

Intp being socially engineered: (What does this person want from me? Am i willing to do this? Do i value this person? Whats the short term/long term implications of this? Does caving on this change the social dynamic? What do i think of this person now that i am put in this situation? Does that change the value in the action being desired to be performed?....... etc,etc....) Intp: "what were we doing again?" Person:"going out" Intp:"I'm good. Got a show i wanna watch."

[@jesulobajohn8468]

In summary, 1. Verify everything (shield) 2. Play a sucker to catch a sucker (sword) 3. Have humility (armor) Thanks for the video... INTP here

[@assameseechi6955]

Ig i dont have to atch the video now. Thanks

[@mrgalea100]

I can easily be manipulated after hurting someone’s feelings unintentionally. I will feel so bad that I will do what ever they want

[@deborahbroadway1958]

Jeff Galea awwwwwww.

[@mmkkad]

That's true

[@JazzySpazzy103]

@E agreed

[@destinyc1382]

Literally just happened to me.

[@mismiserables]

This is me and it has happened to me before.

[@Boogeyman1511]

There's a better way for an INTP to avoid being socially engineered and achieve true happiness: Step 1: Don't talk to anyone ever (Why even bother?) Step 2: Build a cabin in the woods Step 3: Adopt an owl Step 4: ????? Step 5: You don't care about PROFIT anyways

[@dalewight6623]

Step 4: Quick trip to Ollivander's (fire with fire, or wand).

[@LethalOwl]

I second this plan.

[@lgosuberalles4336]

@@dalewight6623 I tried this and it worked

[@beperilebp5759]

My dream life

[@YouKnowIhadToDoItToEm]

Oleg Danko dude you can adopt owls?!? 😍😍😍

[@vinces4326]

We can stop this video if we all work together. Just report it as child abuse on our Si child.

[@kungfooman]

lol wat, make us dwell on our sentimental memories?

[@katintp5854]

🙊😅😂

[@TheLooselois]

🤣

[@ChristopherCMH]

😂😂😂

[@jakobfroberg6715]

That's the most awesome joke I've ever read, I will try to copy your joke in different ways now

[@strawberryloli]

Yessss any female INTPs in the house??

[@iamshaman]

Yes.. where was this video when I was in my early 20s 🙄

[@Jess-yv7zc]

Yes!

[@Jess-yv7zc]

IKR?

[@deekseeper]

Hi!

[@Retrogamer71]

I'd like a female intp in my house. Are you dating girl?

[@Bad_At_Parties]

To be honest, we kind of have to socially engineer ourselves every day just to exist. If we didn't, there would literally be no sense of progress or momentum in our lives, as we'd just die in a static rut, penniless and drowning in poverty. I manipulate myself to shut my brain off the best I can to fall asleep, to go to work, to have conversations with people (both small talk and big talk), to try and be "normal" around others and get along with other types to ease the experience of life all while punching down my weaknesses so they don't have as much power. It can be exhausting sometimes, but we don't really have much choice. It feels like we're on of the least suited types to actually living an adult life, since we are so solitary and reserved, which cuts us off from many of the experiences that we're told are part of "growing up."

[@kyuuketsukikun420]

I totally get that. A lot of the time i feel like a mech pilot operating a body rather than being a person normally.

[@Bad_At_Parties]

@@kyuuketsukikun420 Exactly. I'm so much better at all this stuff these days than I used to be, just through sheer practice, but that is a great simile to use. It reminds me of watching the Power Rangers go into their big mech to fight an enemy at the end of an episode when I was a kid. You feel like a tiny man in a big body, and you're trying to hit all the right buttons at the control panel in the brain just to get the body to move the way you need it to. Definitely how it can feel at times, meeting new people, trying to create fresh connections and facing anxiety-high scenarios that can leave you stuttered or stalled. But I think that the extra work we have to do just to function normally ends up making us stronger and richer people, because we understand the value of the process more because we're required to work for it. That's why when I make friends I make them for life, because it was a conscious and long term decision I made to get to know someone well enough to call them my friend, since I wouldn't bother getting to know someone otherwise. Our value assessment when it comes to friendships and general relationships is actually quite high it seems, despite us often having the most trouble initiating those connections. Just another upside-down day as an INTP.

[@JohnSmith-ox3gy]

"Man dies in Taiwan after 3-day online gaming binge."

[@martpepkin472]

Vow your comments are underrated.I wish i knew people like you irl.Thank you so much for the information it helped me a lot

[@Bad_At_Parties]

@@martpepkin472 Wow, I really appreciate you saying that. Glad that my perspective has helped you in some way. Best of luck out there!

[@tesswinker2482]

I think it's a different tactic for the female INTP. In my experience, we're used to being called smart or asked for help. Usually this is followed by "I can't keep up." Apparently it's the unspoken way of saying "please dumb down your conversation." This is not flattering and just makes you feel more alone. What's shocking is if someone calls you kind. Clever, witty, or pretty are a dime a dozen. Being seen as caring acknowledges the part of you that tries to show regard for others, often to no avail. Being an INTP woman usually means having issues connecting to other women and people, in general. Most of us long to connect but also fear said connection. According to Personality Hacker, we should "seek out our tribe." The one to be wary of is the person who gets your jokes and commiserates with you. "You are not alone." "It's ok." Those phrases are powerful and intoxicating. We're not looking to be saved or to save as much as someone who is an equal that values us as a person, not just a help desk. This kind of person feels plausible and obtainable. This is merely my analysis, thus, there is room for error.

[@CSJoseph]

Thank you for this comment

[@Daniel-pd2zn]

“You actually had the discipline to realize you’re not that desirable.” 😂😂😂 Thanks for the video! I always appreciate the depth of your information

[@fusion5329]

HAHAHAHAH

[@ririban6212]

As an INTP… I can get manipulated, but then it's not like I don't know I'm being manipulated… I will willingly be controlled by people I actually care about or I think I love. Even if they hurt me, I wouldn't mind. But as soon as I stopped caring, no matter what they do, I can careless if they died in a garbage alley……

[@candicecarpenter4170]

Personally, in my experience, when I do this tunnel vision and wait out the course of the relationship until I can exit with safety..... It's because the people are violent if we act on the wrong steps they have we have to know how to dance with people who can't dance. It's fucked. But at least we are smart.

[@ririban6212]

@@candicecarpenter4170 oh my… I think it is a whole different story when violence ia involved… please contact authority when you actually feel physically threatened…… I have not really experience such horrible things… I'm talking in more of a emotional level

[@nemesis27]

you're a doormat then

[@paulinha5165]

Im an INTP and I think my strongest trait is being very skeptical. I’m skeptical of anything and anyone. I’ve seen a lot of friends being scammed before, and honestly I can’t relate at all with your story. I think one thing that can happen when I’m in love is racionalizing about staying in an unhappy relationship just because I know about my patterns towards men. Basically they all have same flaws, so why bother? But when it comes to be taken advantage money wise? NO WAY! Maybe it’s because I’m a woman? I’m curious to know what other INtps think about it.

[@CSJoseph]

Then you are an INTJ

[@hrakhor1783]

@@CSJoseph I don't think so. I'm as stereotypical INTP as one could get and yet I'm very similar to the description Paula has mentioned (as a part of the "bigger" truth). I know that I may sound like many people that say that they are INTP because they did one random MBTI test but it's not the case for me. I've got plenty of introspection experience, backed up by stack definitions and confirmed my type by numerous people that pretty much study typology, "yours" and "conventional". I'm way too skeptical that I even validate reality. I don't trust people, knowledge that I have not processed, confirmed and backed up by checking all of the connections that such knowledge can have by myself. I don't care about peoples opinions, I no longer care about things that do not benefit my case, etc. I have to know someones hidden purpose before I take an action and I delay and reserve my solution until I'm certain that it cannot be used against me. I'll always take a path that may not be optimal as long as it's safe. I'm always prepared for everything that may come and confident in my abilities - if someone disagrees I will disagree with them and end the conversation politely, intentionally giving them some incomplete suggestion that they have to pull, complete and compile solution by themselves if they want to succeed in that matter. If they cannot - shit happens, they have to deal with it by themselves now. I know that people have flaws, understand that and accept everything. When people comment my flaws I simply say that I know, if I can do something about it I use my alternative routine to bypass it, if I cannot do that, I explain my weakness and tell them to search elsewhere. I may sound bitter and not likeable but my mask is quite optimistic and unwavering, good enough to make people feel safe and happy that I'm around and my distance to anything does not give anyone a lever to force me into doing something I would not like to do. I'm not aggressive nor apathetic, I do not hold grudges. My internal world is highly organized, programmed and protected, and my mask is very friendly but distanced. Nothing can make me angry or touched, no one is my enemy, I don't hate nor like people. No insult can touch me, even if it's accurate, I can still rightfully reveal a pro side of it or at least twist it into into something neutral that does not give my "opponent" a ground to operate on. My comment isn't solely directed against your point of being INTJ but it expands the theme and refers to your whole video too. I know that my writing seems very offensive but when I'm writing something I get way too cold/pessimistic toward others. Don't take it personally, I carry no ill will or grudge - anything you write/say without mentioning the good parts will sound evil and I think that writing about things that do not contribute to the point is unnecessary. Let the raw data speak! \o/

[@honsali]

​@@hrakhor1783 it sounds very INTJ for me, I do not think that INTP tend to be prepared with "strategies", and even though, when they are talking with people they are unable to apply any prepared plan, the inferior Fe take the control and push them to please and dont hurt, so in social action they are very weak, they never end a discussion if they think it will disapoint the other person and when they are giving advice, they are very insisting with Ne parent trying to convince by giving multiple alternatives, but after they may analyse the situation, playing it and replaying it in their mind, adjusting their errors, imagining their self saying that in place of that, and promising themself to not do the same error next time, and after being screwed lot of time, they finally make a plan to avoid those social situation !

[@paulinha5165]

There’s no way I could be an INTJ. I’m confident I’m INTP because I’ve been studying cognitive functions for a while. I think the difference with me is because I’ve been on my on since I was 14 years old. Maybe I just got more experience and had to learn in order to be safe all these years? I don’t know... but Some os the descriptions you use are very stereotypical and don’t really fits everyone. I think I’m a bit autistic too, and I am very sensitive with social interactions. I might not know how to manage it, but I see every little nuance of it. I am very aware of other people’s intention sometimes even when they are not aware themselves. Maybe because I’m so used to notice patterns that when I pay attention on their behavior I know what they are up to. I do get nervous and almost always my fé get on the way making me worry about others before me, but that’s only during the interaction, but that’s never when there’s a relation with money because I tend to observe a lot and never decide before thinking about.

[@ohiol117]

@@paulinha5165 Do you like to help others, perhaps by giving them things? I'm like that, I like to give things to people. I draw the line when people start asking me for money or other items. I will mentally write someone off when they start asking. This scenario would never work on me either but I'm not a basement dwelling male.

[@suziedchy]

As an ENTJ, I have never felt so bad like this before. I promise I won't hurt a single INTP ever again in my life T_T

[@oOZanlanOo]

Just got more sceptical about my entj

[@salmaziva5807]

I don't trust especially ENTJs cause I got manipulated a year back not to take all my money but grades!! Not cool 😑 .... and did I mention I hate ENTJs too

[@hudsonsilva6154]

As a INTP, i know i can be truly vulnerable by extroverted charm people giving me attention. I think we see ourselves as outsiders and unpopulars so we tend to be mesmerized by being praised by our intelligence and gifts and smart extroverted people can use that to get money, ideas and jobs from us. My actual partner assumed he did that to me and spent a lot of my money and credit card with no responsability until he started to get feelings from me too, and during my life till that i was very financially responsible myself. It was a risk. Be carefull INTP folks.

[@biblehistoryscience3530]

I’m caught between my INTP curiosity and common sense that makes me wonder ‘Oh, what fresh hell is this?’

[@pohkeee]

ABSOLUTELY nailed it! Please use an efficient outline or supply bulleted list with references. I can barely stand the drama 😬😳

[@tragicslip]

I mean i wrote a comment three min in being like stop and i am still watching.

[@piyush4left]

I was naive when I was in my teenage.... But I developed my Fe by hanging out with ENTPs. But My ENTPs friends are a little bit unrealistic about things... so they developed their si by hanging out with me. Mutual benefits

[@Naturenerd1000]

INTP's Social Engeneer themselves to inorder to be more optimal to their surroundings. From day to day like a computer program there are minor or major updates and therories to test in the real world. If an INTP likes what you are doing they will incorperate some of your strategies, actions, tactics and behaviors in certain cases to improove, blend in or if it is just better for that scinario. If an INTP test your theroies and it fails than you have failed at socially engineering them.

[@CSJoseph]

challenge accepted

[@jabezcreed]

Ha! But for real, every day is a small life update!

[@adamvanwyk2563]

We are the borg. We will assimilate the other types to further the collective.

[@CricketRodeo]

Interesting! I wonder if this tendency leads to mistyping themselves often?

[@jabezcreed]

This is like a cautionary fable that protective mothers tell their INTP sons to scare them away from dating. Hahaha!

[@solomolo9989]

*INTP see's video and knows that anyone who is a fan now knows all of their secrets.* "I'm in danger."

[@xero6396]

That's why I refused to watch this video originally. The "social engineering" aspect to me is manipulation.

[@CricketRodeo]

@@xero6396 it's life...just gotta face it head-on with eyes open I guess?

[@JohnSmith-ox3gy]

@@xero6396 How can you protect yourself without the knowledge of your weaknesses? How can you recognize your brother being played for a fool when he shows you his new girlfriends Instagram? It's like physical penetration testing or white hat hacking.

[@YouKnowIhadToDoItToEm]

Using the Elder Wand as a pointer. I see you’re a man of culture as well.

[@thewisestguy1]

I and every other intp just needs a table of contents

[@jehriasean6379]

Yeah I've come to the conclusion that I need to watch all his videos.

[@niko-ni6ps]

Agree, I use to read a book by its table of contents

[@futureshocked]

Hahaha, I swear to god my INFJ friend manipulated the shit out of me in the funniest way a few weeks ago. We were on a crowded subway train in NYC...both a little tipsy. And out of nowhere she goes, "Yo, why do you think guys are so into eating ass these days?". So of course my INTP ass was like "...welllllllll..." So after a lengthy and LOUD explanation, we get off the train, and go to dinner. As we're eating I'm like "...ya know, there was moment back there on the train where I knew I should probably stop talking about eating ass so loudly but I just couldn't stop explaining." And she goes "...yeah, I knew you'd do that." I was like....youuuuuuuuuu glorious bitchhhhhhhhhhhh

[@god-la-7wins-verdad-942]

I’ve experienced lots of manipulation as an INTP and I’ve built a protective armor in my mind, spirit, body through various ways... from outside influences and especially from inside influences... and I’m here to learn a few more tricks thanks!

[@bn8706]

I'm an INTP and this came off as cringy to me.

[@ryanreeves7621]

Just out of curiosity, which part? Because I feel the same, and I was wondering if that might be a personality niche of INTP. Curious if the same parts are bugging you as myself. I can probably learn if I watch the videos if this is a personality thing. But the videos are to "cringy" for me to get through to learn anything!!! Also, I was planning on changing my user name to Just SomeVolitileINTP. So your name stuck out to me.

[@lobonapier]

To me it came across like he was venting some personal shit against someone who did him wrong, Its far to emotionally charged to be an impartial example.

[@GrandmasterofWin]

It's just so empty of substance. The entire thing can be summarized: "If you want to social engineer (aka abuse) an INTP, then take advantage of their trust and/or good nature." This is true, but as an INTP grows up they evolve impenetrable and stealthy defenses to this kind of thing... I was easily manipulated by women and thieves when I was a teenager, but once I was burned I spent two years developing a system of knowledge. Once I understood what was consistently important (looks, confidence, street smarts), I developed those things. Not only did I develop them but I developed systems of optimizing them. An INTP that works out and consistently faces fears is a real threat to skinny, cocky twerps like the guy that made this video. Develop your feelings, social skills and physical prowess and I think an INTP is a serious threat to anyone who fucks with them, but instead of seeing it as a game, we see it as something that should be utterly obliterated with 10x the force. An angry INTP is a real and present danger that's difficult to see coming and can keep their grudge in a special place for safe keeping for decades. I wouldn't suggest fucking with us, but if you do, hope and pray that you're an early bird, or we'll be waiting. The irony of him using the example of the basement dwelling fat nerdy INTP is that although they are the easiest to manipulate, they are the least desirable to manipulate, because you have next to nothing to gain from manipulating these people. A successful INTP that you'll see actually moving about in society, that has amassed any resources has done so despite himself and has therefore in all likelihood already developed a state-of-the-art defense system against predators.

[@psychiccrocodile3679]

Lol intps be so judgey about others personality quirks huh.

[@GrandmasterofWin]

@@psychiccrocodile3679 sociopathy isn't a social quirk, but the answer is yes, but also no. We are critical of "feelers" and extroverts but also jealous in a way of the freedom they have. Mostly we judge the fuck out of ourselves 99% of the time, so when we're critical of others it can seem rude despite it being a fraction of what we do to ourselves.

[@subhrajyoti1]

I am an intp and I think more then this siren kind of person I get very attracted to people who are like broken and need to be taken care of . Happened to me twice and both ended up badly. I never fall for these unrealistic projections...

[@teensytinyninja]

Jokes on you. My default setting is assuming I am unloveable. You’ll never get past my Ti verification now!

[@oOZanlanOo]

made my day lmao

[@JakeBananas]

This definitely could have trapped my teenage INTP self... I guess that makes sense, since the child aspect is what is literally being isolated and manipulated. But yea as a teenager, i on many occasions, became infatuated with girls i found attractive especially if they took interest in me. However, once an INTP becomes an adult we are invincible!

[@feliciahernandez4434]

I’m head over heels crazy about my INTP man. I’m an INFJ but because I’m an INFJ I try very hard to look so pretty and really wanting to go out with him and have fun. My INTP man and I met online and yes I send him pics and stuff and can tell it emulates him even more. He told his whole friends and family about me and on my birthday he just spent so much money and time with me, and I never told him to do so. He comes an hour every weekend to see me and he loves how girly I can be. I’m absolutely crazy about his mind and how intelligent he is. I think what made us to get together is that he sure did white knight me and knew what I want and he was like “oh I’ll give you everything you want” even to the point he is so comfortable my ex still tries to get back with my but my INTP man is so confident because he knows he gives me everything I ever asked for. He is absolutely amazing and I am super blessed but I am not going to lie this video makes me feel guilty making me feel like I engineered him but it was all natural.

[@cruz.c]

*1 second into the stream* chase: it is physically impossible to social engineer intps

[@CSJoseph]

yes but it is metaphysically possible and likely

[@Retrogamer71]

He will do this through your subconscious, while you Ne gather.

[@jimcartmell7067]

Lol - INTP’s get engineered because they feel sorry for the poor sap who tries con them. INTP see it coming and gives it away out of pity.

[@ryanreeves7621]

C.S. Joseph i was just about to type that. Not the metaphysical part, but conceptually. What exactly do you mean by metaphysically? Metaphysics are philosophically abstract concepts mostly dealing in the first principles of things. I am sure you know that, but just putting it out there in case someone reading this doesn’t. I am also sure you meant to use that word, just not sure exactly what you mean in using it.

[@exnihilonihilfit6316]

​@@ryanreeves7621He's not using it in the proper philosophical sense, he's using it just to mean "woowoo" b.s. Like in those "metaphysical" sections in bookstores that deal with insane topics for the "energy" and "karma" and "chakras" and "horoscopes" CHICKS.

[@heatherbryant4197]

I usually allow people to think I believe their lies initially (most will assume you don't object, by your silence). This allows them the feel confident enough to lower their guard and get sloppy, while you amass a veritable mountain of evidence and contradictory statements. Only when they've dug themselves into a hole so deep they can't dig themselves out do you reveal your awareness. Don't show your cards too early. Give them just enough rope to hang themselves. On the note of "play a sucker to catch a sucker," I recommend watching scam-baiting videos to become aware of the tactics commonly employed. Kitboga is pretty hilarious. He "plays a sucker" by using a voice-changer and pretending to be a naive elderly woman to waste hours of the scammers' time and revealing their strategies.

[@ralesidtparrot9334]

I don't really see the reason in 'showing my cards' at all. What's the point? Just leave such people, they're not worth your time

[@watyhu99]

@@ralesidtparrot9334 The satisfaction of breaking them and also curiosity on how far you really can take it, making them think they have control only to rip it from their grasps

[@ryanreeves7621]

THEEYE SEESALL And what is the end game? What is accomplished in the shame provided? A lesson learned? As an INTP I do understand the desire to make A perceived character flaw in someone else stick home through shame. Although over time, I have come to realize that I end up looking like more of an ass then they did, And very rarely does that shame make anything stick long-term. Because that behavior is habitual and is not easily thwarted. And although we don’t care if we lose those friends that criticize our perceived heroic behavior adjustment as anything but, we do need those people in our lives. Despite our intuitions prowess in self sabotage, so very rarely Do we accomplish anything other than just that.

[@watyhu99]

@@ryanreeves7621 Its satisfying in terms of watching someone try to fuck you over and knowing that, just to turn it on them. simple as that. People attempt to take advantage of INTPs such as myself a lot, so I simply use the opportunity and my public face to use it to my advantage until there is none left.

[@DreamQuillRose]

@@ryanreeves7621 Why do we need those people in our lives, in all honesty? Is there actual good that comes with hanging around with manipulative people? (My family says I judge people too narrowly, so I'm trying to learn be more open-minded.)

[@zf5656]

This is exhausting to listen to. I'm about an hr in. It's beginning to give me a headache. I remember more recently watching your video from a yr ago, and I was surprised that I watched it for an hr (it was different as I remember it). But, this style, with this tone and energy is grueling. After a while I had to watch it at 1.25x speed just to try to power through it, so I can extract the info out a little quicker.

[@thomaspayne6974]

Funny you should describe apathy as a vice (understandably, as almost everyone does), when the Stoics (archetypal INTP's) thought apatheia was the highest virtue attainable. Granted, the modern usage of the word is somewhat removed from how the stoics used it (as a sort of enlightened indifference to the passions and the world around them), but even that can be seen as a negative trait to most. It's simply illogical to try to change things that cannot be changed (such as how others perceive us) so the best option is just to focus on what can be changed (i.e. our own beliefs, desires and attitudes towards others), which is perhaps the source of INTP aloofness.

[@jacktaylor1801]

Check the pool attached to the gym for INTPs. Look for ear plugs, they might not hear you.

[@Shadow77999]

Heeeey true!!

[@emacdemacd]

@@Shadow77999 so true hahaha

[@tahah.babikir7698]

I agree, swimming and rock climbing are more appealing to intps than routine gyms.

[@reinaldoa2104]

That's why i never ever again gave money to anyone who ask in a very desperate way without knowing his/her background. The white knight chivalry is so bloody problematic it made me obsessed with how deception works. As for credit cards... Lucky I'm too paranoid to own one out of my anxiety 😅

[@CNStanza1]

I was looking forward to this video but it made me super sad. I couldn't help but remember all the times I have been manipulated, looking back it was like I was asking for it. I always felt that checking the motives of people I trust was the wrong thing to do. This specially hit home when I remembered my ENTJ friend owes me money. Damn Chase, you made me cry, but I suppose this lecture was for my own good.

[@LethalOwl]

This was eye-opening. And it reveals to me that I have been manipulated a fair bit, actually. At great economic personal cost over the past 10 years, but very much more so just within the last year. Although it wasn't as a result of some romance-scam, that'd just make me feel even more ashamed, but still it's still bad.

[@lisalisa6821]

Btw..there are also INTP females, just a reminder in case you forgot.

[@carter_dj]

I'm pretty sure most INTPs ignore Te, use Ni in private, and completely despise Se. I doubt you could gain an INTPs trust by acting like an ENTJ. The INTP would probably dislike their personality and maybe feel a little intimidated. I'd recommend acting like a personality of the same quadra of the INTP, whichever one is closest to your own (even INTP)

[@dxfifa]

No, you lack understanding. INTPs clash badly with Ti users and Si users. Se Te cares about what the INTP is comfortable with and what they think, more than what they think and what makes them comfortable

[@brandondye2070]

I swear. My ex must have studied this episode intensely for many years before we got together. This video was her play book.

[@beautyoddrose]

The biggest problem is, they don't have to study to do this, it comes naturally to them. I watched it happen to my sweet brother and a few other guys. Sorry, Si child. Be careful of Se Hero and Se Child. CSJoseph is right verify!! Best wishes

[@fatoumfatoumeh]

This is all priceless information, and you're putting it all out there for free. Thank you so much for that. You are simply brilliant and your delivery entertaining. I'm addicted, for real. I wish I found you alot sooner.

[@princeofparmma]

This video has incited me to listen to the biblical book of Proverbs more. I am an INTP, and I realize I have not experienced everything and I don't want to have to experience of something, to learn how to deal with it.

[@diamondcarson8801]

i agree with the most of what you said, C.S Joseph . nicely researched work :) yes, we intp's are prone to such social hacking. mostly we deflect attention. it's not that anyone (however pleasing or seemly nice they be) comes and showers us with attention ( and we work the least in earning attention but do crave it quietly esp if we are feeling lonely) and we fall for them. we do push away ppl, test them in a lot many ways before we even start opening up to them. so someone very dedicated and persistent with awesome social skill will be required to breach our defence. that defence mechanism is a bit lowered when we are hurting, lonely, or sad. so at such vulnerable moments we really got to be careful imo. the helping part -- was on mark. once anyone wins our trust, we will do anything to help them . not being able to help makes us feel horribly guilty. we try to avoid such feelings at all cost. so people may exploit us to such degrees and we wouldn't even care if we are exploited as long as it feel nice. as for material possessions, intps really don't care much for that. so even getting conned hefty sums wouldn't hurt them as much as disloyalty and unfaithful behaviour hurts, as far as i think. the dopamine addiction part is so so so spot on. i've been through the. struggled a lot . in my view, that's our biggest moral failing actually.

[@alexasweatt8857]

Still think you will poke your eye out waving that wand around.

[@shofarsogood7504]

Yesterday was Zelda shirt day. Today was cat high-five explosion shirt day.

[@randomactivitiesco.5848]

This is soooooo true! I gave an INTP resources to show him how he was getting tricked by another guy. Did he read them? Nope! He was too happy to have the attention and by proxy status of his friend. Blew my mind! I was like, " aren't you this smart guys?!" He through a fit at me and actually said, "I'm not looking at this." Okay preferred input. Don't learn the rest of the story. Build your system on people ripping you off.

[@CSJoseph]

A for effort though

[@anthonycockerham3026]

As an intp myself I am very aware of the fedora tipping neckbeard meme, because it is very important for me to not become one.

[@theguy9067]

"who's this real smiley guy" that's what goes on in my head a lot. But it's usually me thinking they're not being authentic especially in the presence of others. Especially when I suspect the smiley guy wouldn't be so smiley if it were just me and him alone in a room

[@MAC...]

I'm an INTP who loves learning about practical psychology to be used (Social engineering), so would be awesome to get the book. =D

[@Pixel_Pirate_YT]

Me too!

[@PunkFiddler]

Just tell a young INTP that someone's more intelligent than them. Used to work... but not anymore.

[@heatherbryant4197]

@J Sev When I stumble across someone more knowledgeable than me, I legitimately get excited. It's rare I encounter the opportunity to actually learn something new in everyday conversation instead of trudging through the same old boring platitudinous minutiae. I'm usually thrilled when I hear someone use a word I've never heard before. I used to struggle to understand why people would be offended by that. Like they actually expect you to not only be psychic and know which words are and aren't in their vocabulary, but to then pause and reflect on how you should censor yourself and edit your word-choice to "dumb it down" for them so they are less likely to have their eggshell ego offended. Then I eventually realized they don't consider the possibility that I'm editing to tiptoe over their insecurity; instead they assume I'm editing to sound smart. Building it up instead of dumbing it down. 🙄 Wrong direction. Think again!

[@rishabhpandey2529]

That is so true!!!

[@ckhirikasvoncpf6548]

You’d have to define which intelligence that someone has that is greater by comparison.

[@xero6396]

@@heatherbryant4197 Thank you for making me feel like I'm not the only one.

[@ryanreeves7621]

J Sev im curious about your age. I didn’t find pride in my intellect until I was in my mid to late 20s. In fact I didn’t even know I was in any different from anyone else. I would receive compliments, but I took them as half hearted attempts at flattery as currency rather than sincere compliments With no intent of reciprocation. I started noticing in college. I could logically break things down differently than others. I remember it started in a humanities class. The instructor said there’s no real definition of “art”. I raise my hand and instantly it popped into my head, “a thought, feeling, idea, or concept manifested in a physical way and defined subjectively by the perceiver.” I had to explain the last bit to the instructor. He got a little flustered, but I was complemented anyway. After that I started taking little bits of pride away from every encounter in which somebody seemed impressed. Kind of like a standup comedian getting a laugh. But then I found myself to be a bit pretentious. Actually, that realization came from A trusted source of criticism. So over time I toned it down quite a bit, and have realized that the greatest answer I could ever tell myself and be comfortable saying out loud is “I don’t know”. Those 3 words open An INTP’s world up. They promote active listening, as well as humility-based learning and teaching. Not sure if it works for ENTP’s as well, But perhaps a prescription for this channels fearless leader to Try.

[@BirdUpFR]

Damn looking spiffy today, not that i understand fashion lmao

[@knifeyonline]

never seen a blur so sexy

[@nicodiangelo3308]

He had to look like an ENTJ😉.

[@wanderbear2171]

I can hear my intp say “im not falling for your tricks..!” Lol

[@actionchaplain1]

Not every single INTP I've met has social engineer skills, but those I've met who do...damn, they're dangerous

[@bethlanglois9361]

This’ll be great- can’t wait for the INFP social engineering lecture too!

[@TheLPfunnTV]

Probably gonna be a lot like intp exept wit emotion instead of logic. Making the infp always feel good but i do not know how to emulate Fe

[@Damion00000]

i Spent much of last night watching this social engineering playlist. I am ENTP, and this is a life line. I write copy when I am not busy with my self loathing and trying to figure out what I need to do in order to mitigate the inevitable failure most of my plans are going to be faced by. Thanks Joseph, and I may just hit you up once i know enough to be valuable to you as a writer.

[@arcadianfox8127]

Happy to hear INTP opinion regarding this. I think something similar like this happened to me, but here's what happene: 1) Beautiful girl, smart, travelling the world, came across her at work helping her with something, she was super interested in me talking about my ambitions in sports/language/etc. 2) Went on a date with her, she offered to pay, but I paid. 3) She kept coming to me and I didn't really need to put in any effort. 4) I started doubting and something felt off. It became very boring for some reason. 5) Questioned myself if I wanted anything to do with her, answer "no". 6) Told her straight up I don't think she's worth my time and don't want to see her anymore. The difference? I'm (self-diagnosed, could always be a mistake!) an INTJ, not an INTP. INTJ will leave such people behind, INTP are like puppies.

[@drum009]

Yes!! Finally!!!

[@danityjo]

HOLY CRAP! Stop Rambling, Get to the Point.

[@michelleedward09]

He is entp what do you expect?

[@user-eg6xu7cr8e]

Lol, I've been talking that to my monitor many times while watching.

[@danityjo]

@@user-eg6xu7cr8e A video for INTP's and Lost my interest in first 5 minutes because of a lot of incorrect information, and non stop useless talking.

[@user-eg6xu7cr8e]

@@danityjo Which incorrect information in first 5 minutes ?

[@MAC...]

@@user-eg6xu7cr8e Just watch it at a faster speed setting, and if needed slow down at the dense bits.

[@mehdihassankhanloo5297]

Thanks for the information. Thanks for your seemingly endless energy. Thanks for you CARING, man!

[@seabird3896]

INFJ here, your vids on INTPs and other personality types have been SO useful to me. Your thoroughness and detail is absolute gold for an INFJ like myself who enjoys using my Ti and Ni functions hehe

[@blairhaze4629]

Omg, as an INTP I was waiting for this one so much!!!

[@danihaiden890]

Chase i really appreciate the amazing work you do for us 💓 Like i can't find such quality information and for hours too its gold 😭

[@CSJoseph]

Glad someone does. It’s hard to not give up

[@hedgeearthridge6807]

Ive been dying of excitement for weeks, looking forward to this video, checking every day for it to release. Love the new studio and look too! Perfect video to debut it! Thanks Chase! -INTP

[@josephglenn1471]

Thank you so much! This was truly so enlightening... I will definitely use this info to my advantage in the future

[@Boogeyman1511]

So the video exists and is uploaded, but i still have to wait for 18 hours before I can watch it.

[@alexandrapinho4425]

I still remember the times when you had to put the camera on top of nintendos. And now you have a green screen and amazing sound quality ^^ kudos

[@CSJoseph]

thanks bro

[@nicodiangelo3308]

This thing gives me faith in humanity 😅.

[@odix87]

Yo fellow INTPs ;) When I saw this video I thought it's brilliant, but I placed social engineering scammers among conspiracy theories. "If it happens, it's so rare it most likely won't happen to me" I thought. Boy, I was wrong! Thanks to you, C. S. Joseph, I was armed with knowledge and considered this as a possibility. I know that pandemic hits hard, but as soon as she's discovered that I'm not giving anyone my money, we both knew what was going on. Ghosting happened, trying to make me feel responsible. We both played eachother for a while and then a sudden block with no explanation. When it's too good to be true, it probably isn't. I've learned an important lesson and had some fun doing so. I count it as a win. Just... be careful out there, folks. Thanks a million ;)

[@sankalpbhardwaj1944]

I enjoyed it very much... All the new updates u made were fabulous... Keep the content coming!!

[@kristindawn]

I'm excited to finish watching this lecture.. excited for the INFP one too! Good to see you seem so happy! 😊

[@vm44844]

This is fantastic, its really helped me to see how a close Intp friend is easily being manipulated by their Esfj partner. Its definelty a Dominant Fe vs Inferior Fe battle. And really i think because of their systematic responding approach they are always left stuck and drowning in their own apathy. Thanks CS for your truth and putting this out there.

[@anarchosocialite4599]

My INFJ boyfriend watched this 18 months ago when I was about to leave him and told him so. We are still together

[@t.6071]

Which parts did he do?

[@bandagewastingmachine386]

When you see someone get scammed out of money over and over during the course of your childhood you can already see through all those schemes.

[@AiriRoses]

Oh boy we're getting into the INPs, I'm both terrified and excited at the same time

[@futureshocked]

@C.S Joseph; it's a long, personal story, but I actually DID shut down an ENTJ scammer once, oddly enough. Like, got her deported back to France.

[@igglywompus]

Would this be less effective against a subconscious focused INTP? With a more mature Si child, less insecure Fe inferior and humility gained from subconscious development surely they would be less vulnerable to many of these techniques.

[@bentooh2371]

Based on the lecture, it's safe to assume that this social engineering is mostly effective for the immature Si child focused dopamine dependent INTP-subtype.

[@igglywompus]

@@bentooh2371 well it's not too clear whether subconscious or shadow development can actually make the child function more mature. It seems like developing the parent function to be more responsible is what matures the child (ego development). Subconscious development could make Si child more resilient as it shifts to the parent function when you cognitive transition, unconscious development could mean you can function without Si when you transition. So perhaps both subconscious and unconscious focused INTPs are vulnerable to this attack if they have an undeveloped ego and an immature Si child/Ne parent.

[@lukemccarthy9723]

Been waiting for this for a long time

[@StevenLeMieux]

As usual I spend the first half of a video reading all the comments and laughing or cringing at the content. That being said as an intp who discovered your channel long before I even knew what my type was... I happen to enjoy your insights. I could ramble and say to much this not enough this and give me a table of contents as my attention span is abysmal. Hour long video head begins melting. Scratch that and ignore my lack of punctuation this is a compliment and a thanks for sharing some helpful insights keep it up.

[@appsjeff]

I needed this lecture 6 months ago. Now i need a video on how to get them back.

[@Nicohakuu1]

Gosh the new thumbnail of this video is super savage :,D It's almost as if it was laughing at us INTPs being so "socially blind" of what others are doing to us so you offer us glasses to finally to be able to see the whole picture and verify the circumstances

[@honsali]

The "promise of pleasure" is killing me! It disable my Ti and make my Ne go very big, so the deception is hurting me more the only point I have is how can an INTP have so much money in the bank, INTP can make lot of money, this is not the point, but only as much as it is needed to be in his confort zone, an INTP with no money can never be desirable

[@TomiAdewoleAdetom]

"Working on a dark energy reactor that will save the universe - if I can build it, then nobody will ever care that I'm awkward again. Much more importantly, I won't have to worry about them thinking it. Just give me time it'll get done." - every INTP ever. Lol ok most. Ok some definitely but possibly/probably most.

[@sciencemcqueen9851]

When you’re trying to give a lecture but your laptop’s preparing for take off

[@CSJoseph]

yes lol

[@jehriasean6379]

This teaches me as an INTP I need to play less video games and get out more.

[@forkymental5154]

INTJs play video games sometimes too, but not for a living.

[@lunovo1464]

Bruh the minute this man said they intps si child reacts to manipulation with apathy I knew this was where my psych degree could find a home . The sheer fact that I usually attach to an extrovert and make them the main hang out friend till that runs dry is such a gluttonous thing to do …..literally my only solution is to fast from ganja , food ( unhealthy stuff ) and irrelevant people

[@SDB4202012]

This pretty much explains my life. I am a dopamine addict! It seems like intps want to have things but not actually work for them. I haven't fell for a romance scam but when I was a teenager I would get my video game accounts hacked by people promising to earn me money. It was usually because of my own greed and arrogance. I did play Halo 3 and Halo Reach but I was never that good at it. I was too slow. I think Halo is more of like an intj or istp kind of thing- faster movements. I really liked how you talked about Si child. It's pathetic how weak it is pleasure and how lazy it is. I also agree with you how Fe inferior has a white knight complex. I can fall easily for the damsel in distress sort of thing which is why I though you were also going to talk about intps being susceptible to xsfps. I mean lets be honest, SFPs can pull the damsel in distress thing literally better than no one can. The thing is, INTPs have to leave their house to meet SFPs which signals maturity. I guess the thing to learn here is that no one wants to give you money for no reason and relationships take effort. All in all, I'm impressed with the video. The production looks good as well.

[@mutiahanum4866]

My 37 years old Intp bf wears dragon ball t-shirt everywhere

[@jeremystarling8677]

I just hit on the head with a hammer. "Addicted to dopamine" "Probably plays Stardew Valley" damn. Unfortunately, the "let's be straight" are here for endless humor.

[@victormedardoruiz]

Great lecture! As ENFP I resonate with some of this too.

[@MdLif3]

As an INTP my life was changed when I realized that people need and want help. Even better was when I realized that business is based on helping people with your skills and the best thing is they can *come to me* ;). Just remember that if someone getting more from the situation, you are being manipulated. And because INTP thrive from helping people, a lot of times you can find yourself helping the wrong people with the wrong things... Keep in mind which people you *don't* want to help and then your time and effort will be more valuable. Remember that if you can invest 12 hours every day to be the best Call Of Duty player, you can be the best life player and really a life model for a lot of people :) Get into Philosophy, adopt your philosophy and let it guide you through life. Teach others, help others, this is how you'll make friends, money and value in life. Make every day better, for you and others. Stay strong INTPs.

[@antoinelandry7534]

I’m really liking the new setup

[@richteratmosphere2295]

I think there are other effective ways to avoid being social engineered other than the play a sucker to catch a sucker approach, such as don't engage with the person who is attempting to manipulate you. When a potential social engineering victim doesn't engage with the aggressor, the aggressor will likely move on to another victim.

[@abusukhairi8163]

Was waiting for this

[@colinyoung3685]

Another introspective journey of discovery, had to watch immediately.

[@TheOfficialTLM]

Listening to this was like watching a recap of the past 15 years of my life in a parallel universe. Painful medicine.

[@grb9330]

Great and important video - thank you a lot. Solution: *I* *N* ever *T* rust *P* eople = *INTP* :D BTW: very, very interested in the Book!!!

[@uberchap6934]

Love your content Chase, keep it up!

[@tinaprotsenko1126]

I love you chase and I don’t really care about Dave superpowers but a good thing he does is actually typing out/ digitally draw the same thing you have up there- so it’s easier and looks more professional. But so far this is your best set up yet, stop worrying so much about it