Dean Park Station Video 76 - March 2016 Update

[@ScottDowneywoundedbear]

Great update. The trains running through the station looks awesome.Scott

[@warrenpark5516]

Fantastic layout Dave, the detail is incredible, love all your videos cheers James from Oz

[@bennettj99]

Excellent video Dave. Your attention to detail is a credit to you. Really looking forward to the Layout Tour video. Well done on your work so far, well impressed. Kind regards. John.

[@stephenheafield8867]

Hi Dave...Have been following these updates for a while now. Always plenty to see and learn from. Plenty of detail and then some really good running shots, look forward to more. ... Steve

[@EverardJunction]

Excellent as usual Dave. The track detail is looking great, certainly worth the time and effort. Enjoyed the running session too. The interior station shots were the highlight for me. Keep up the good work.

[@DeanPark]

+EverardJunction Cheers Richard. Yeah I do enjoy squeezing the camera under the roof for some cool views! Thanks for your comment. Dave

[@Cliffjumper24]

+DaveClass47 Hi Dave In this video, as we're watching the signals changing to amber, you say that it hasn't even read the next signal yet. In the real world, the signal would be electronically interlocked so as a train leaves one block (triggering red), it would release the previous one to amber.... because you shouldn't have two trains in any one block at the same time. Since you say it has a variable resistor, I suggest you alter it, so on an average speed, the signal will change to amber a few seconds after the next signal. It's a shame you didn't use DCC for the signals, becasuse you can use free software and block detectors (which are pretty cheap) to interlock the signals automatically, so as one signal is reached (and turns red), the previous one is triggered at the same time (turning amber).

[@sparky107107]

the raised cable pan adds a great amount of detail to the layout , very sharp looking , for the long sections , wood from the hobby store painted up might be a bit cheaper , painting the drums must have taken some time ,, nicely done , my fav part of your layout is the windows that hang out and look at the yard tracks , thanks for sharing , great layout

[@MrDave741]

Hi Dave, Your hard work is really paying off, that's an amazing layout and as commented below you do forget that it's a model, especially some of the station scenes. Well done matey, loooking forward to the next video, Dave

[@mathewrufrano7833]

I have enjoyed your videos here on Long Island NY. Especially liked this one. Your main terminal configuration is terrific and look forward to seeing more. Thanks for sharing.

[@DeanPark]

+Mathew Rufrano Thanks for watching, its great to know I have friends watching from the US. NY is one of my favourite destinations, I have been across to your wonderful city on several occasion. Only one thing I don't like about NY....you dont have any model train shops selling British trains lol. Dave

[@CreweslyRoad4472]

Great update Dave. Lovely progress, looking forward to seeing the ballasting once complete and weathered. Nice running shots, love the sounds from those locos. Great stuff! Tommy

[@robmasterman]

Wonderful explanations on what's considered to be taboo for so many Dave. The running session was quite amazing, and easy to forget, that you're watching a 00 Gauge layout.....Another superb upload, and I can't wait for the next one...Regards...Bob

[@DeanPark]

+Robert Masterman Cheers Bob, I do try my best to make a believable miniature world, so I am really glad the real world and the 00 world came together for you! Thanks. Dave

[@wraggi1]

Fantastic vid, great update on the track detail, will look great once gravel is down. Nice running session to finish........cheers Ian

[@recycledmodelrailways8655]

Dave, been watching your channel for a while now, not sure if i have ever commented before. Just wanted to say how helpful your videos are to those of us about to start a layout, in particular i always make a note of the places you buy things from which is invaluable. When you see someone using stuff and get an explanation of what the thing does it makes decisions easier as to who to buy from. Cheers for all the advice you give, look forward to seeing more from you.

[@DeanPark]

+Paul Norman Hi, thanks so much for your comment. I make a deliberate effort to list the places I buy things and what brands they are....as I found it deeply frustrating when I was starting out back in 2012 that people showed me things on their videos but never told me much about them. You then have to trouble them by asking!I will give me opinions on things I have bought, both good and bad and hopefully that will allow people to make their own judgements before they purchase similar items. I can only warmly thank you for your comment, it is really pleasing to know my ramblings are useful to some! All the very best. Dave

[@recycledmodelrailways8655]

Very useful Dave, and you have accomplished what you set out to do mate.

[@emoh8765TinsleyTmd_YardModel]

Gets better every time there's an update Dave love it

[@C-MAGs]

Nice wee Easter treat from my favourite model rail channel. :D Thank you!

[@DeanPark]

+Craig Magee I am humbled that I am your fav layout! Cheer and Happy Easter. Dave

[@vwgolfer1873]

Cable trench is a real nice touch Dave, You seem to always find the perfect little pieces to add to the layout.

[@DeanPark]

+Matt Jenkins (vwgolfer187) hi, thanks for that. I try to get the little details in as I build, instead of having to add them later as an after thought. Glad you liked. Dave

[@dislikethumb7398]

Excellent video & a thumbs up from me. A brief update on your wiring / technical updates, but a detailed focus on your fantastic rolling stock (including the amazing Scotrail push pull set). Spot on & much appreciated 👍👍

[@DeanPark]

+Dislike Thumb Thanks and glad you liked the Scotrail set...I love it too! Dave

[@sub39h]

Excellent video and love the extended running session at the end

[@GregPalmer1000]

Great update, cable trunking looking good, signalling A1 especially the sequencing!

[@WoodyWood]

Brilliant as ever thank you for the brief explanation of you signals it's a job I'm putting off at the moment

[@DeanPark]

+Graham Wood No probs, hope it helped. Its easy to do, if not a little time consuming, and costly (depending on how many you need!) Dave

[@steburge1]

It is always a pleasure David, great stuff!

[@johnmorrow9978]

Well what can I say that has not already been said, another great video with lots of detail and especially lots of explanations as to how things work, this is what I really like about your videos you take the time to explain where you get certain things, how they are installed and how they work, the one thing that I have learned from your videos is to just take my time, if I had done that at the beginning of my layout then I would not be doing what I am doing now and that is going back over things and doing them properly this time, l suppose I am learning the hard way but never mind as I am looking forward to your next update to see what else I have done wrong.....lol, Happy Easter.

[@DeanPark]

+John Morrow Happy Easter and thank you for your kind comment. I am glad my ramblings are of use to you with your layout. I like to share my experiences to help others, just as others share their ideas which help me a lot! Dave

[@daviemaclean61]

Great update and running session. When I see the quantity of trunking you've had to prepare and lay down it makes me less bothered about my relative lack of space! Just back from York MRS, which is well worth a visit if you have the time, and any loose change left over after Modelrail Scotland! Ha ha. Keep up the good work - it's all coming along very nicely. Cheers, Davie

[@DeanPark]

+davie maclean York MRS is always one I have wanted to go to....maybe in 2017 I will convince my wife to take a 'last minute' holiday to York and then once there drop in to the conversation that there is a model rail exhibition that I want to visit!! lol. Dave

[@daviemaclean61]

+DaveClass47 They had me at "free parking"!!!

[@MrHarrisTrains]

Great update and running session layout is looking very good. cheers

[@kirktonroadjunction193]

Great update Dave, layouts coming on a treat and your station looks fantastic... Keep up the good work.. Mark

[@DeanPark]

+Kirkton Road Junction Cheers Mark, glad you enjoyed! Dave

[@TheAudiostud]

Thank you for our Easter Treat Dave, Great Work, Well Done!

[@quarryfield]

Great video Dave, I really enjoyed it. I'm fairly new to your channel but will certainly be working my way through your earlier videos after watching this one. I also watch Everard Junctions videos too and you both provide wonderful entertainment for people like me that live overseas and miss the UK and it's wonderful rail system. Kind regards Paul.

[@DeanPark]

+quarryfield Hi Paul, welcome aboard! lol So glad you've found my channel and hope you continue to enjoy my videos. I am always working on something and try to post a couple of videos every month. Cheers. Dave

[@MichaelHenfrey]

Another great update Dave, Thanks for explaining the signalling, I will have to look into there semaphore system for my layout and if it's compatible with pc control. Looking at it from the outside it can look quite daunting with all the electronics but I guess once you've done things a few times it becomes far easier. Cheers, Michael

[@DeanPark]

+Michael Henfrey Its straight forward when you get started, but with everything it is daunting until you have a go - I feel like that just now with dry brushing brickwork.....not don't it yet and will need to do a lot of it, so I guess I will just have to 'have a go' and get stuck in! Dave

[@kirbyparkwest4392]

A great late Easter Sunday's viewing. Those Mk3 Lima? Scot rail coaches look good behind the 47. I've got a rake of their Manchester/Liverpool Mk3 Intercity Pullmans. I like the signals if they're that simple to install I might be able to fit some myself. Cheers Dave.

[@lukenoble3319]

I love the view from the station platform. : )

[@DeanPark]

+Luke Noble I do too...could watch those shots all day! lol Dave

[@matthewsnowdenshunterguy3352]

Awesome mate as usual! Ur modelling level blows me away

[@DeanPark]

+Matthew Snowden A Very big thank you! Appreciate your kind words. Dave

[@Dazkinnersley]

Another quality update as always Dave. I believe it won't be too long before you have the model railway magazines asking you to cover Dean Park. I can just see the Dvd attached to the front cover of BRM!

[@DeanPark]

+Dazkinnersley We can dream! lol. Maybe in 2020 when its "finished" lol. I have already been approached by Hornby Magazine to submit photos for their 'readers layout' page. So maybe I will get in the magazine in a little tiny article! Dave

[@edforcer1340]

+DaveClass47 I agree with Daz. I think your attention to detail is worthy of note and I believe Dean Park deserves far more coverage than a tiny reader's layout article. As has been said already, the views from under the station canopy are a delight and the development grows apace. A joy to watch!

[@DeanPark]

Ed Shunt Thank you sir! So glad you enjoy it. Dave

[@bhigdaddymark]

Excellent, EXCELLENT video!! Your layout is stunning with the finest in detail. From day one some many years ago, I've always found the model railway layouts and designs in the U.K. particularly inspiring. I've seriously developed a love for the OO-gauge train sets as I now proudly own a Hornby Virgin Pendolino Class 390 and a Bachmann Virgin Voyager Class 221 that whenever I run either of them at my HO club, it makes the other members stop and take notice as well as photos (I have videos of both and our beautiful layout on my channel bhigdaddymark). I'm from New York City and therefore a huge subway fan and have NYC subway models in both HO and O scale. My next must have set is the gorgeous London Underground set by Bachmann and the Class 350. Thank you for the continued fine work on your layout and especially your fine camera work in filming your trains all of it inspires the best in all of us. Cheers from NYC and Orlando, Florida!

[@DeanPark]

+bhigdaddymark Hi, many thanks for taking the time to say 'Hi' from Florida and I am so glad you have been following what I have been doing on the layout. Thanks also for your kind words. It means a lot. Dave

[@trainmanbob]

Superb as always, Dave. I'm now wondering if you built the layout so you could show off your photographic skills, lol. Great Video. Cheers, Bob

[@DeanPark]

+trainmanbob Cheers Bob. Yeah its possible to get some cool angles for shooting running sessions. I especially like the track level shots and the 'under the roof' shots. Dave

[@Italkgadget]

Brilliant to see the layout coming on , any chance of a link to those boards?

[@dooburt]

Hi Dave, fantastic series -- keep going. A mixture of the how-tos and the running makes for some really interesting watching. Also, can I commend you on the amount of videos you've released. Great to see so much content covering all aspects. First class work. My only comment I have is the track around the main station feels clean. I don't have a layout myself, so my opinion isn't worth much, but with the diesels idling and with the tracks being as busy as they are, I'd have though the track would be utterly stinking! There was a video earlier in your series also, where you show the east throat to the station and foliage on the near-wall - excellent work. My thought as I was watching was -- could you darken the retaining walls with an air gun, especially toward ground level and grime up the corners? Keep up the effort. Top work.

[@DeanPark]

+Chris Hi, thanks for that, about the walls....I wasn't confident with the airbrush when I built the walls...maybe in time I will do something. Yeah, some of the tracks can do with more weathering....all in good time. ;-) Thanks for your comment and encouragement. I always enjoy suggestions on how I can improve things. Cheers. Dave

[@MiltonMoJunction]

Hi Dave, great update and running session. Just one question about the signalling, I understand fully about programming each signal to change colour at timed intervals once a train has triggered the sequence, infant I have done so myself. What I don't quite understand the advantage of joining each signal to the next one as you said, I am probably missing something, but you said the train has passed and the sequence has started and would continue even if the train stopped and in fact before it even reached the next signal. So why do you need them connected (via the green wire)? Robin

[@DeanPark]

+Milton Mo Junction Hi, sorry I didn't make that very clear.If you have 3 signals in the sequence you would use ONE mas sequencer board, which would go through the sequence after the train has passed. The other two signals would require just a IRDASC4 board, which will not automatically go through a sequence. In other words, if a train passes the IRDASC4 sensor the signal would go to red, but will not go to yellow until the next signal is passed. When the train passes the 3rd signal this signal would then go to green again (I am using 3 aspect signals as an example here).The benefit of the mas sequencer is that at least one signal will return to green if there are two trains running on the line....however you could just go for a set of 3 IRDASC4 boards and not have a mas sequencer. I just took the example given and recommended by Heathcote Electronics. They are really helpful for explaining what you want and they give good advice.So in summary, buy connecting the signals with the green wire it allows them to work in sequence as opposed to three individual signals. If you are running more than one train on the line then connecting them would be more realistic as on signal would not go from red to yellow until the next signals are passed. I hope I have made this semi clear? lol. Hope this helps.Dave

[@MiltonMoJunction]

+DaveClass47 Hi Dave, yes understand completely now thanks for that. As I said it was probably me, getting old and brain cells are starting to die off, but I kept watching that bit of the video and did not pick up on it. Robin

[@johna.dawson709]

Great update and running session. Just wondering, what is the height of your wood piece that you use between the lower section and the upper section. I'm trying to figure what height to use between my lower session and upper session.on my layout once I begin construction....

[@DeanPark]

+Niagara OO Junction Model Railway Hi, I had this dilemma too. I went for 95mm from baseboard to upper track level. Why?, well it suited the Scalescene tunnel mouths I was wanting to use at the station and with the height of the overhead masts etc I was planning on using this gave enough clearance. The wills retaining wall arches are lower than this, so I cannot use them, which is a bit of a shame, but I feel 95mm is a good height. Each to their own though! Hope this helps. Dave

[@johna.dawson709]

+DaveClass47 thanks Dave for the info... Just starting to plan my layout, and i want to make sure i get the correct height or at least a height I can run trains under and between levels. The first lvl will be my fiddle yard and the second lvl will be the main line, with an upper area for town and large station scene...John.

[@MrChrisprat]

Another great video love it been waiting to see your next upload as always look forward to them even better while eating lots of chocolate and happy Easter to you Dave.

[@davestrains]

Great video,the layout is looking great !! cheers dave

[@bentompkinson4572]

Brilliant video Dave. I have to admit I am a bit of a geek when it comes to light signals. For that reason I went straight onto the Heathcote website and started reading up! Can I ask, have you looked into using the IRDASC-5s at all? They are the same as the ones you are using but also have the ability to stop a train at red. This is something I am interested in playing with. What are your thoughts?

[@MxWintersAFOL]

Those signal controllers seem a bit much to run a set of signals. Personally I'd use an Arduino Mega and connect all the signals and all the IR or LDR sensors to one single board. You do have to program the Arduino with code but there is millions of code examples online so that's no problem but it would mean that you can program it to do exactly what you need it to do. You technically could connect all the signals to one Arduino andd all point motors to a second Arduino (through transistors) and then link to the two together via the serial ports so you could link the signals to the point movements as the case in real life. The Arduino Mega is only £30.24 inc VAT from Rapid Electronics (exc shipping). I love the Arduino boards, their simple, cheap, easy to program (even for someone like me who can't program) and they're powerful for what they are. I have an Arduino Mega acting and an Analog to DMX512 converter for my lighting desk and lighting rig (only true lighting engineers have a lighting rig at home) and my 3D printer has the same Atmel 2560 chip on its controller PCB. Adafruit do a mini version of the Arduino Uno called the Adafruit Pro Trinket which is great for mini projects like wearables and it's only around £10. I going to start teaching my 6 year old niece how to use an Arduino at some point. Hell, the worst that can happen is she blows a £10 PCB...Big deal and cheaper than most of her toys. Sorry I'm going a little off topic now.

[@MansfieldCS]

Another great video Dave

[@DeanPark]

+MansfieldCS Thanks mate! Dave

[@brucehenderson6187]

Dave, how tight are some of your curves and do not appear to have much transition. How thick is the packing and what did you use on the outside of the curves. I always enjoy your high standard video and modelling skills which inspire me to do more. reds bruce

[@DeanPark]

+Bruce Henderson Hi, my curves are no tighter than 3rd radius, they usually hare 30" to 36" to 42" radius. Some curves have more transition than others, because as you'll understand I am sometimes limited with space and width. The cork underlay is 1/16" thick. The foam on the outer of the curves to give it banking are bought from tillig. They are cut at an angle to give a slight but realistic angle as the train goes around the curve. Hope this helps! Cheers. Dave

[@Electra_1203]

Great video as always, I'm jealous that I don't have the funds and space like you do. Yes the Scottish traffic can be a pain, but I think it's a fair trade in. I've been watching your videos since your platform was brand new, and you had no overall roof, even back to when your lower level wasn't complete! You have progressed so well over the past years, can't wait for you to do some proper scenic sections, it will work a treat I know it. Also, could you invest in a camtruck? It will be such a good addition to your layout! Many thanks, Brad

[@DeanPark]

+Bradthebilder 222 Hi, yes I have come a long way and I am thankful for your support over the months and years.I still have the space, and I used to have the funds....but with the rapid increase of prices recently I am finding it more expensive....when will it all stop?, this hobby will become for the rich and famous, sadly I am neither!Cam truck is on my LONG shopping list lol. Maybe one day.Warm personal regards.Dave

[@Electra_1203]

+DaveClass47 I see what you mean about prices. As a student with a cramped apartment, a 6' x 2' end to end is all I have room for, a dim going to have to hinge the board if I want an extra foot, as it would be handy if I can actually open my front door, they do come in handy sometimes :p my only worry is if I'm using the extension, as it stretches under my letterbox, the poor cows might get a shock when my water bill falls on their heads... I've already invested nearly £500, with my family putting in an extra £300 in its first 4 months of life. £800 has got me my track, half of my stock, the board, the buildings and my platforms. But not one blade of grass has gone down yet, let alone any hills. Yes.... This hobby isn't for the faint of heart. Wow, now thinking about it, if £800 = 30% completion on a 6 x 2 board, £????? = Quad loop of loft size board + near completed station and TMD + God knows how many locos and stock, I bet your wife gets a bit fed up of this sometimes lol - Brad

[@DeanPark]

Bradthebilder 222 I have over 35 locos, 150 carriages and 35 wagons (all bought in the last 3 1/2 years) - and counting! I have over 120m of track, 40+ turnouts, over 300m of wire (so far) and god knows how much money I have spent! The attic required flooring, lots of ply for the baseboards, new lighting, electrical power, silver lining insulation, power units for the tracks, accessories, along with loco decoders, point motors, etc etc etc etc. The list is endless (its actually making me depressed listing all of this, as I could have had a round the world cruise on the QM2 with the money I have spent!). BUT, in saying that, I LOVE THIS HOBBY. And spending money and time on it a real privilege and I thank my stars I am lucky enough to be able to do it. I hope you enjoy the hobby as much as I do, its in my blood and I wish you every successes with your layouts now and in the future. They will only get bigger....and more expensive! lol Dave

[@Electra_1203]

+DaveClass47 thanks for the advice, you are very lucky to have what you do, I know many people who would trade anything to have this. It's quite natural to loose track of how much you've spent, comparing it to other items or getting depressed at listing everything, it's a common syndrome called Modellers Syndrome. Most people watching your videos suffer from this harmless case, as well as thousands more around the UK. There is no known cure, because you love this hobby too much. Your wife/girlfriend might get fed up, but try and encourage Modellers Syndrome in her. Also, when kids come into the picture, Take them to heritage railways. It's how I got quite a severe case of Modellers Syndrome. But for now, I must care for my poor cows who are getting constant headaches from damn water bills. Cheers, Brad

[@DeanPark]

Bradthebilder 222 Brad, I have a young daughter who loves to come up and play with me in the attic...trouble is she wants to touch everything....and it must not be touched! I tell her but she doesn't understand! lol I have take her on the 'choo choo' train and she loves it, but I am hoping she doesn't grow up to like model railways....she might want a pink one with princesses and that would just depress me! lol

[@brentleajunction]

hi Dave where did you get your signal box from that is next to the station area?

[@DeanPark]

+knowleseys yard Hi, this is scratch build using card and laser cut windows I had custom made at York Model Making. It is based on the signal box at Edinburgh Waverley, using actual scaled dimensions.

[@bentompkinson4572]

P.S. I seem to remember at least one of your sets of light signals in the station area are controlled by the setting of the points. Can you tell us how you achieved this? Kind regards. Ben

[@lukeknights7381]

what kind of wagons where those with the steel coil loads in?

[@kirbyparkwest4392]

+Luke Knights- Bachmann 39-041 Railfreight OBA Wagons.

[@lukeknights7381]

+Kirby Park West thanks!

[@DeanPark]

+Kirby Park West thanks for answering that. ;-) Dave

[@mtty1988]

Where dose trunking start finish ie relay signal box ect

[@DeanPark]

+Matthew Stamp Hi. I will be installing relay boxes and the cable trunking is a complete loop, connecting the points and the signals. The signal box/control centre would control the points in real life....I may add a control centre at the back of the TMD area. Cheers. Dave

[@mtty1988]

Can u get it so when u change point it changes feather or goes to red if opposite direction?

[@MrVinnyh]

+Matthew Stamp You don't have red feathers only white, as they are a subsidiary signal to the main aspect

[@mtty1988]

+vince halls I mean when you flick point the signal feather shows the diverting route and the signal on other side Gose to red so train can't derail point set against can they do that

[@DeanPark]

+Matthew Stamp Hi, I can manually set the opposing signal to red to stop a head on collision. I am sure it would also be possible to set the other point automatically.

[@mtty1988]

+DaveClass47 thanks and could I use it for a Terminus station Cable trunking where dose it come form go to

[@DeanPark]

Matthew Stamp It goes to all of the signals and turnouts. These can be controlled from a central control centre and/or signal boxes.

[@mtty1988]

Can u get n gauge trunking ect

[@Pmjs]

What depot did you model your TMD on?

[@DeanPark]

It was difficult to model it on one particular depot, due to space etc, but I wanted a Haymarket feel to it. The sheds at the left end in similar position to Haymarket, with a modern shed at the west end. It was pretty freelance design, but with access at both ends...just like Haymarket.

[@FarlandHowe]

Ah Okay, then your signals are automatic. Nice. They make you smile as you watch a train go over them.

[@Railway-xt3ut]

Could you do a train collection video please ps nice video

[@DeanPark]

That's a big task lol, I have a lot, which is not all unboxed at the same time, but I will keep it in mind for this winter when I will have more trains running and using my fiddle yard more extensively than I have before. Cheers. Dave

[@bertsendobry9354]

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