DD5V4 vs Scar 20S

[@TrustJesusisenough]

Daniel defenses warranty work is un paralleled as well. Some really amazing folks that work at that company. I'm like Tim over on military arms channel. I get lemons like crazy. But essentially the m4v1 I bought had to have the rear sight drifted all the way to the right. With only a few clicks left at 25 meters to get it zerod. So I called them up. Told them look. I live in a awful neighborhood. I can't leave my girl and kids home alone with no protection. They overnighted the weapon to them. Got it in the shop that morning fixed the problem and had it overnighted right back to me. All for free. Amazing people. To any possible haters gonna call me fan boy. I have the email's from them saved. I'll fan boy that kinda service all day. That is truly caring about your customers safety.

[@TrustJesusisenough]

@@jonmeray713 they essentially said an over torqued barrel nut. But thought also that the front sight could have been slightly to the right. They replaced the barrel to a brand new one. Already had roughly 500+ rounds through it. Brand new BCG. Upgraded to a bcm charging handle for free. New front sight. Sent me a hat 2 extra mags put a mag pul pro buis on it. The one I had on it was the plastic magpul sight. (Had an acog on it at that time). And a few other lil cool dd products. Even a hand written letter apology for the problem.

[@TrustJesusisenough]

@@jonmeray713 Chris told you that? And you're welcome my friend. I don't particularly trust those plastic ones. It broke during shipping. I still got that pic as well. I was like tf lol.

[@GreenRatel]

You can afford to buy a DD no problem but live in an awful neighbourhood? Talk about priorities.

[@TrustJesusisenough]

@@GreenRatel I'll take that as a compliment. 🤣With the acog and cerakote and other minor accessories. Sling light etc. It got up to 3500$. To be fair though. When we moved in it wasn't bad. But after about 2 years. It started getting bad. Then really bad. Then we had a guy get shot right in front of our apt. Dude died laying in front of my door on the sidewalk. Then a kid stabbed another kid about 4 doors down. Cops on the street for something everyday. The crime around here just moves around its really weird. It was the south city. Then it moved north. Moving st the time wasn't an option.

[@GreenRatel]

@@TrustJesusisenough This clears things up. I thought suburbs was the way to go in US. Especially for people who are into guns. Anyway I hope you're gonna do ok. Teach the kiddos how to hold a gun but I bet you did it already. Have a good day.

[@Dang_Near_Fed_Up]

Love the side by side comparison format for the video. You are truly helping people who can not access both rifles make an informed buying decision.

[@carpenpyro2068]

Both were on my list. Went with the DD and absolutely LOVE it!!!

[@txgreek3512]

Thank you for taking the time to make these videos, always enjoy watching them. Just shot my DD5 V4 308 for the second time yesterday out to only 220 yards and WOW, got .50” at 100 yards and 1” at 220 and all this with PMC XTAC 7.62x51 standard FMJ (my shtf rounds) along with Hornady Black 308. My scar 20 can’t compare to the light weight maneuverability and extremely comfortable ergonomics of the DD5 V4 but both are great bench shooters just DD5 V4 is definitely going to be my go to hunting etc rifle as the Scar 20 prefers the much more expensive 175 grain rounds which as we all know that our military is tax payer funded so definitely going to take the Daniel Defense over the FN.

[@annihilousterminus5728]

So, the Daniel Defense 1) is just as accurate 2) is just as soft-shooting 3) is as suppressor-friendly 4) is lighter 5) has better magazine availability 6) uses cheaper magazines 7) is American-made by an American company 8) has much better parts availability 9) is about 40% cheaper Did I miss anything? So why even consider a SCAR 20S?

[@dominiquebrown2890]

What about durability

[@oldpain7625]

​@@dominiquebrown2890 DDs are solid rifles

[@MultiOzzy69]

Love comparison videos! I’ve always wanted a SCAR, BUT, with the information provided on this video I have to say I’d lean more towards the DD. Simply from a cost, parts and modularity (6.5 creed option) standpoint. DD makes more sense.

[@charlesmullins3238]

I’ve had the dd5v3 2yrs and have done hrs handloading and shooting mostly inside 550yrds with ease and hit on my 1st rd 1st try@1000yrds …178hornadys with superformance powder…arc is wild from a 16” at that range…58moa

[@ericmathis7740]

The DD is very comparable to the scar. And what was it 1500/2000 less. That one is a no brainier 👍👍

[@skepticalskeksis221]

Scar is going to never go down in value. Maybe even go up in a few years. That’s a major benefit. The price of entry is ridiculous I own one. Plus you just can’t put a cheap scope on it so the price only goes up substantially. It’s also super heavy. But I love it.

[@kylegarcia4141]

Skeptical Skeksis got to shoot my friends 20S and loved it. I sure as hell cant afford it though.

[@emanresu7208]

Exactly, the scar.

[@ericmathis7740]

@@emanresu7208 I'll stay with the dd

[@lvl1022]

@@skepticalskeksis221 I sold my scar for the dd. You’re on crack. The scar is so unreliable. It started acting up after 400 rounds

[@joejackson4202]

Any AR is going to be hard to beat. They have everything going for them

[@jhalscott]

I have both of these. For ultimate performance the SCAR 20 wins hands down, but the DD is 90-95% the performance at about half the cost and has the SR25 and AR10 parts available. Great video, guys.

[@derekmclv]

Will the DD eat all bullets weights like the SCAR?

[@jhalscott]

IBTJC 4Life I have run 147/150gr FMJ and 168 and 175gr SMK without issue.

[@azrael3030]

Im a FN fan boy but that DD is 💰 for the price DD makes a nice system

[@meatballhead3290]

Idea for a Video.... If you had to pick one single Manufacturer for all your gun needs what would it be if you needed to fill the following sub categories? •Handgun •Sub Machine Gun •CQB Weapon •Assault Rifle •Machine Gun •'Long Range' Rifle. (Obviously this is a contentious topic as regards what is considered 'long range' but for arguments sake 700yds plus). The only Manufacturer I can think of that fills every field is Heckler&Koch but I'd love to hear your views in video format. Keep up the great work guys and stay safe 👌

[@wokeislatinfordumdum6054]

Yeah, but do they take Glock mags?

[@kananisha]

Lololololol

[@big-k-7.62.]

$$$ lol

[@wokeislatinfordumdum6054]

@C-Bomb I actually totally agree with you and I almost stopped myself, but the calibers involved were just too outlandish of a scenario for me to resist. Plus, I had a bloody mary for breakfast because I'm on vacation....so....uh....yeah. There's also that. It didn't help me make a better decision. Not even just in these comments, but, in general.

[@07slowbalt]

Not everyone likes holding black dick mags

[@PBoretsky]

Love your videos guys, they're always extremely entertaining and informative. I'm getting a Daniel Defense AR-10 tomorrow afternoon!

[@markthrower224]

Eric, Chad thank you guys for all of your continued effort in developing content for this channel and sharing with the rest of us.

[@Mrgunsngear]

now I need a 20S

[@jbdoingjbstuff]

Mrgunsngear Channel get it in black though. More accurate.

[@jdwilson533]

@@jbdoingjbstuff 🤣🤣

[@CRinJersey]

Now you know how we feel each time you do a video 😀

[@RC-wh4xr]

…so you already have a DD5V4?

[@philiporrell2936]

Good stuff! I love .308! I don't have a semi-auto .308 other than my 300AAC, but I do have a bolt action Savage that is an amazing shooter. I considered getting an AR 10, but I have settled for 350 Legend and 300AAC. Very happy with those set ups

[@brandoncoston7489]

I have built several ar15s, I’ve never purchased a complete one, I was thinking about doing an ar-10 inn.308 win next, but the dd5v4 looks pretty nice, I may end up just buying that instead 🤔

[@jakevanness1373]

Currently saving up for that 20s

[@fumasterchu12]

After watching this comparison I will definitely be looking at more of the Daniel Defense offerings.

[@intensity75]

Two years later still a wonderful review and I completely agree with you

[@Ladaniels83]

Love the format, love the raw facts and no fan boy type remarks. Each gun has a place, thanks for sharing.

[@livefire81]

These types of videos are my favorite, just wish there was more range time, and tighter range cams. I like seeing individual loads/bullets go head to head on competing platforms w/ a quick overlay of individual round ballistic info, like you guy's have done in the past. Id love to see a 6.5CM version of this video w/ something like an M5E1 vs PSA. Pig rifle shoot-out.

[@sgthl]

DD5 does come in 6,5 Creedmoor. All you have to do is order one. - Ding! ... Ding! from 1200 yards.. now there´s a video i´d like to see. :)

[@vikp6115]

I have few DD rifles they just work soooo good flawless , never had an hiccup of any kind, I even have some of their uppers on my 80 lowers and they just work all the time from the box. Quality stuff !

[@forfunzine]

Great, I'm really thinking about getting a DD5, this vid did the job, thanks guys 🤟🍻😈

[@isaiahmarquez9717]

I had a SCAR 17s years ago. I loved that rifle. Softest recoiling .308 I ever had the pleasure of shooting. Regrettably I had to sell it (life issues). I have a DD5v4 on the way. Can’t wait!

[@wcsdiaries]

How do you like it.

[@phillipsodipo9516]

How’s the recoil on the DD compared to the SCAR?

[@sterrshow5016]

Please let us know

[@danbo8648]

How do you like the DD?

[@ruggedindsoup2135]

I was a total SCAR-17 fanboy but after owning one for a while I was disappointed with it in the long run. I’m more interested in a DD5 now. I haven’t shot one yet, but I’m getting the impression more and more that I’ll like it better.

[@AirborneHelly]

"The scar is very smooth to shoot" as the rear lens cover falls off under recoil haha. Awesome comparison vid thanks for the info!

[@DeltaBravoOpr8r]

F&N too expensive for what you get.

[@agorillajanaeronm.4941]

Agreed, I mean FN does make really really good products but their price points are just really ridiculous, it's as if their full of their selves.

[@agorillajanaeronm.4941]

Michael Srite HAHAHHAHAHAHAHHA

[@Lutz101]

DD5V4 wins on mags alone. SCAR is also too heavy and expensive.

[@timewave02012]

On the SCAR, the lower isn't the firearm and can be swapped out for an aftermarket lower that takes SR25 mags.

[@MaseratiChris556]

Heavy??

[@LifeisGood762]

This

[@MnRCDad]

How in the shit is the SCAR too heavy? You obviously have never ever handled one. Please stfu

[@te179]

@@MnRCDad Settle down Karen

[@TheSkinnyMechanic]

For practicality the DD wins but I still bought the Scar 20 and I’ve got no regrets. Just shopping around for a scope now

[@jdwilson533]

Same here!

[@rickycinaz]

Same here, I also have HK91 and a PTR91.

[@ThatAdamikGuy]

That DD 5v4 in 7.62x51 their gun of the month for February was in FDE and storm trooper white and had a stock like the scar. Adjustable stock from magpul

[@mak529]

My SCAR 20s arrived today!

[@johnbarcinas5559]

Wish you guy would compare the DD5 vs Knights Armament SR25

[@MrMalicious5]

KAC and LMT are the best.

[@larryjohnson150]

I don’t think I’d ever own a Scar, I’ve heard too many negative things from people who had to use them.

[@bloodking73]

Ive used a 16, not too impressed, just seemed heavier than necessarry with no real benefit for it

[@dealspeed6756]

I've heard their not the best for combat and that was coming from a navy seal that used one in Afghanistan, he also said they had feed problems

[@hunterromano5562]

@@bloodking73 other than the piston system which is way heavier than it needs to be, and the name it doesn't really bring anything to the table other than a cool talking point compared to other comparable platforms IMO.

[@MaseratiChris556]

😂 don’t tell you watched that ONE video from ONE persons experience 😂

[@MaseratiChris556]

Hunter Romano minus durability, parts life, and reliability??

[@russelrenznerosa8969]

Uncle Scar: "Long Live The King" Uncle D-Dog: "Woof!"

[@07slowbalt]

WARNING: At 12:45 theres a MAN BUN in the making. 🤦‍♂️

[@bryanhall6153]

Scar 20 - .965" AVG vs. DD5v4 1.35" AVG. .385" difference....Thats huge in the world of precision rifles. My 17S shoots sub moa all day long. My JP LRP07 is also a sub .75 moa gun with every factory load. If you aren't sub moa in this category, you aren't in the game.

[@_AVAM]

I would love to see a review of the bergara b14 series. For the price it is amazing. Bergara’s barrels are incredibly precise.

[@kwiturbitchin5277]

I like my Remington model 700’s but I wouldn’t buy a new Remington with all their QC issues. I like the Bergaras because they are clones of the 700 action.

[@mrc8086]

Somehow I missed this awesome video review from Eric. I enjoy listen to peoples thoughts and review of 2 guns even 3 guns in a video. Great format to keep my attention. After watching a few review video's featuring the SCAR20S this video is at the top and they all seem to like another rifle better than the 20S by a little. Both cool guns for sure.

[@vanthof9852]

Nicely done, thanks. The extra weight of the FN is a big deal killer for me. But then, the price of both of them is out of my league :-)

[@gregmattson6909]

Love this style of video, keep up the good work guys!

[@twissted1277]

I grew up shooting 6mm as a kid and now at 57 I'm still a fan of 6mm I use 6.5 Creedmoore and 243 in semi auto. I also have a few 6.5 Grendels. I never have owned a 308. I have owned a few 7mm mags as well as 300 win mag.

[@Plastikdoom]

What I’d like is an AR based platform...but in .408 Cheytac, would’ve the ultimate long range AR and a nasty closer range also. Though the cost of ammo for training would be pretty brutal.

[@m118lr]

Great vid Eric. Having a SCAR ‘17s’..and REALLY liking the platform..it does have its quirks, beyond the $ tag. i’m not the least bit interested in the newer 20..even if I didn’t have 17…TRYING to be realistic here. If it’s between these 2 right here..it’s the DD V5, hands down. Price, weight, DI..DD’s rep and parts AVAILABILITY..

[@mikestrunk3282]

6.5 Creed has been in the CA-10 for years. Christensen arms has them in multiple barrel lengths in carbon fiber.

[@justinbanks4559]

I love the scar.... BUT I have to admit I’m a ar fan man so the DD JUST DOES IT FOR ME😍

[@jamesball8519]

Yet if someone was going to gift you one between the 2 you would definitely pick the scar 😆 🤣 😂

[@justinbanks4559]

@@jamesball8519 idk man it would be a hard decision

[@user-kn2zy5oh8w]

Great format - straightforward.

[@gjmarkjesse1324]

Love the DD5 V4 in 308, going to be getting one in 6.5 creedmoor just because I can soon.

[@charliebrownsd]

8:02 SCAR knocking off parts of the optic in it's typical fashion, haha! That massive bolt shakes the shit out of everything attached to that rifle.

[@TheBeard411]

Hahahhaha. Right as he exclaims how smooth it is. Still like them though.

[@charliebrownsd]

@@TheBeard411 They are really great rifles, you just need a $5000 military grade red dot or scope to avoid it breaking your optic. It truly is a military grade weapon, just not something everyday people need but we sure as shit want one!

[@eastwood4006]

Good mount good optic problem solved. That being said... I could buy a DDV5 with a good mount and optic for the price of just the SCAR rifle. Still want one for some reason 😅

[@charliebrownsd]

@@eastwood4006 It's a cool looking rifle. Even just the way they did the coating/coloring makes it really unique.

[@cliffkirby8570]

Good information, I appreciate you guys.

[@davidbarfield3489]

I just bought the DD today!

[@danbo8648]

How do you like it?

[@davidbarfield3489]

@@danbo8648 It’s amazing! I added a Radian charging handle and selector.

[@derdampfhammer6652]

I own the dd5v4 and love it. I had to change out the safety on the R side to a shorty but not a big deal and now its perfect. I shoot it well out to 500. Past that a bolt gun in a magnum caliber is my choice. Thanks for a great video that just reaffirms my choice of the DD over the FN.

[@SpecOpsGear]

The ddm5 seems more of a scar 17s competitor than the scar-20s.

[@duanesmith5074]

Getting ready to test Daniel defense defense weren't you service. I have a one year old DD5V4 in 65 creedmore that has never run good at all. Fails to feed fails to eject and locks up. So we're gonna take all the stuff off and send it to Ryan and see if I get back at gun that actually shoots

[@danbo8648]

What happened?

[@helixx92]

I like these practical use overviews and comparisons

[@Xrayblazer3595]

I love this format of video. Cant wait to see more.

[@secondamendment8773]

Please continue with this series. I’m in the market for a DMR type rifle probably in 6.5 Creedmore (although 6.5 Norma may become a consideration if the US military adopts that cartridge. (( I’d love to see a video comparing the two cartridges)) and this series definitely helps point out some of the pros and cons of the different rifles. If you can get your hands on one, I’d like to see a review of the JP LRP07 in 6.5 Creedmore. Thanks and keep up the good work.

[@maverick4462]

I had no opinion either way, but after watching, think for my needs, I'd have to go with the DD. Love 6.5 but it's expensive.

[@PracticallySquared1]

Great video. Super thorough but not Nuttn’ boring. Keep up the great work guys. Been a sub for years.

[@ragnarok5056]

Would be nice to see a 10 shot accuracy test on these two on paper 100m

[@isaiahkerstetter3142]

Keep doing more videos on .30 caliber rifles!

[@calholli]

I like DMR/ battle rifles myself as well.

[@nitemare5030]

Yes love some auto 30 cals

[@rolandgeorges960]

Hmm, Daniel Defense makes great rifles, sure, nevertheless, the comparison is a little strange to me. The FN Scar is a battle rifle, adopted by SOCOM in 2009 used by the Marine Raiders, Army Rangers and by more military forces world-wide I can post, IE. The SCAR features a gas-operated short-stroke piston and a modular rapid-change barrel, allowing operators to switch calibers in the field in minutes, almost forgot foldable stock. The Scar is beefier because of the monolithic design, yes, the scar is heavier. Sorry to say, the comparison here, is apples to pears. Don't take me wrong, I like most of your other presentations. Both rifles belong in a different world, just my TC.

[@ppmnox]

I reliably get sub MOA with my sig716 gen2 dmr using 175 M118LR sierra match king. using 147 m80 it's ~ 1.25 MOA.

[@SuperSnallygaster]

I'm a SCAR fan, but also own a DD. As much as I'd like the SCAR, I have an FNAR that has the same FN parts/mag issues the SCAR has. While SCAR stuff is more readily available than the FNAR stuff, it's still a pain in the ass enough that I'd probably go DD.

[@adamshartley]

It is heavy and expensive but I love my 20s. Fricken tac driver. Only have about 500 rounds through it we will see how it holds up.

[@williamboggs4317]

Love the scope on the scar

[@spamento]

LOVE this style of video! Please make more!

[@nated5355]

Eyecup falls off the scar literally as you say it is smooth to shoot (8:02) lol. Great video!

[@DMacDaddy]

@8:06 - Very smooth to shoot as recoil blows off the the eye guard...

[@alphaomega9033]

Iraqveteran8888, Your Approach to this Video is High Priority Needed, Vital Wisdom!

[@benbowditch9265]

I'd take a DD5V5 6.5 CM 22" Geissele SSA Trigger. I'm sure it's coming.. for another $1000 on top of the V4. My 18" DB10's weigh 14.75# with optic, sling, bipod, and full 25rd PMAGS. As others have mentioned AR10 parts and mag availability cannot be beat. Thanks for showing off your dream come true guns Eric.

[@andrewbritch5821]

Love it, you're causing my Christmas wish list/ tax time new gun list to keep growing 😍😆

[@gunfather83]

Awesome comparison. I will say I disagree on the accuracy and distance capabilities of a 308 gas guns. I have videos shooting my 18" ar10 out to almost 1500 yards on an ipsc steel and shooting a can of spray paint at 1460 yards with the 18" ar10

[@Harleyforever20]

Very well done! I’ve been,”LOOKING “ at .308 rifles. I’ve also taking into consideration a Springfield M1A series. Maybe a video in the future about how or how not M1A fits into that group of rifles.

[@fook-joby-den6172]

If you ever want a great 16” .308 w/o the heavy ass weight that accompanies large frame rifles, I’d highly suggest POF Revolution DI Or V-Seven Weapons Systems 16” .308. Both under 7lbs for bare rifle & if wisely outfits it you can stay under 9.5-12lbs depending on configuration.

[@p.h.6485]

Yes. Like this format of video.

[@Psalms119nove]

Yes more videos. P.s. what happens to the comparisons on 44 mag and diff length barrels like revolvers vs lever guns. Thanks for all your work.

[@Immortalkalashnikov]

I have a budget that covers the 20S and the DD. I think i'm going with the DD. After looking at MACs video, the accuracy of the 20S is kind of disappointing considering the price tag. The DD holds its own, very well, and the price is significantly lower.

[@ulisessalas6420]

They are both amazing rifles.

[@noluckpureskill9985]

I think that a. amantine channel or however its spelled showed a 20s with cracks on the bolt carrier

[@nathanbegovich6173]

wasnt that a 17? either way gr8 channel ppl should check out a.amantine

[@duffy1298]

Yea. It was his buddies 17s I believe. That dude runs my favorite channel iv8888 is Probly a close second

[@noluckpureskill9985]

@@nathanbegovich6173 it could of been buddy. I thought it was the newer one the 20s but I could be dead wrong I'm a noob when it comes to scars. Only one I ever really even liked the look of was a cqc model and then another one was a custom 300 blackout pdw type deal I seen online that was sick af

[@TrippyWheelz]

Anyone else get irritated seeing someone hit a pencil on stuff? I am haunted by the memories of sharpening pencils and the lead falling out as I am about to write. 😂

[@JayKayKay7]

That is a flat carpenter's pencil. It is built to take abuse. It is sad that you have no lead in your pencil. Must be tough being from Texas and all.

[@TrippyWheelz]

@@JayKayKay7 you know what a joke is? or you just got beat up all day as a kid from your drunk dad and crackhead mom so you try to roast people on the internet for nothing to make you feel like someone? you are a sad little man. i hope life gets better bud. sometimes just eating a Glock is a good idea too so, you have options at least.

[@RC-wh4xr]

I love my DD5V4!

[@DAP-1776]

I have a scar now I want a DD.

[@namenotfound8747]

Weight is not an issue when it comes to precision rifles, it actually a plus.

[@darkmatter3538]

Can y’all do a video of the Scar H vs the DRD Paratus 18? Please!!

[@josephpavel3150]

Love my 20s nrch .308. Compared it to my sig 716 16.25” and ptr91 18” at the range the other day and the scar 20 is significantly softer shooting, more accurate and all around a much more pleasant shooting experience. However, the ptr and sig716 cost 50-75% less. For me and the type of shooting I’ll be doing with a .308 Semi-auto the scar is my favorite.. selling the 716 patrol and Gonna try a brake and a prs stock for for my ptr91 to make it feel more like my scar. Love my hk and hk clones so those won’t be going anywhere

[@8KJC999]

Very nice comparison and informative. Thanks!

[@Sagittariustoo]

Much rather have the Scar over the DD. When it comes to ARs I prefer LMT and JP to all others. Good video; would like to see more like it for sure.

[@troydodson5366]

Loved the format

[@gregsimmons4369]

Enjoy your videos a lot. Your comment about someone new to those rifles could shoot accurately with a little instruction sparked a thought. Maybe you do a video showing that concept.

[@patrickwilson3433]

The DD5 is cheaper, more parts available, lighter and has identical performance...? Not a tough choice. These are way better than the DD5V1 and V2 though. DD swapped my V2 with a V4. The first two models were discontinued for good reason.

[@slayingrn]

Well done! Continue please.

[@ianberry5879]

Wait til the newly announced Steyr DMR hits the market. If it's as good as it looks from the initial preproduction interview, it's going to give the SCAR a run for it's money.

[@sh33pshot84]

Love this style of vid! Hope there's enough support for more!

[@jongecsek5085]

Great discussion, thank you.

[@dipgrizzly25]

You should do a video on those sick new AirBows coming out. I remember you loved the high powered air rifles, interested to see your review. Cheers.

[@ReubenOaks84]

Really enjoy these comparison videos. I believe I would rather have the Daniel Defense but would love to own both. Thanks.

[@hulagu3068]

I wish you brought out a sr-25.

[@calholli]

the DD essentially is one.

[@chrispierce2915]

I would like to see a head to head with a Knights Armament SR25 APC vs HK MR762. Both with 16” barrels.

[@camonly849]

I think 800 yards is about right on. The 18 inch barrel is the issue. I think a 22-24 inch would be right where you want it for 1000yds, however you have a much longer gun at that point.