Deathless Age of Mythology Retold! Chapter 4: A Fine Plan

[@JoeFalchetto92]

I‘m glad you scheme for me, Melth.

[@Melth]

@@JoeFalchetto92 thank you! Always one of my favorite lines of the campaign

[@ManofLowMoralFiber]

Incredible videos.

[@Melth]

Thank you! Glad to hear you like them

[@senddeym2208]

Thanks for the high quality of your videos, Melth! 😌

[@Melth]

I'm always happy to hear people appreciate the work that goes into them :)

[@lancetravelman]

LOVE YOU AND YOUR VIDEOS MELTH

[@Melth]

Thank you! I'm always glad to hear people love these!

[@12luri]

Fun fact: If you delete one of your own caravans. Arkantos goes ahead and yells about how it's the best thing and you should destroy more of these poor dunkeys.

[@Melth]

Does he? That sounds funny but I couldn't get it to work

[@excess.subiefl0w]

Wow after 22 years I never knew fishing ships can make dock fire arrows

[@Melth]

I remember being very confused as a kid to see that the Dock SAYS it has an attack, but it couldn't actually do anything. At first I thought maybe it was like Sentry towers that display an attack but can't actually shoot until upgrade, so I tried to see if any building upgrades would enable the attack. Then I wondered if, like towers, the attack value would go up if you garrisoned people inside. So I tried it with boats and sure enough, that worked!

[@Cyber_Cheese]

Great video! I had this odd feeling you considered deathless to include not letting heroes faint, and i have no idea where i got that impression

[@Melth]

Thanks! Nah, heroes can faint and then be picked up again, that's not dying

[@daviderwin1204]

Odysseus gets down to a casual 2 hp at 32:32. Doesn’t break a sweat. 😅

[@Melth]

@@daviderwin1204 odysseus is by far the loudest hero as he gets injured I'm noticing though.

[@Cyber_Cheese]

Odysseus gets resurrected around 9:10

[@Fingolfin_the_Warden]

Bronze doesn't help against lightning since lightning deals divine damage. Also, the 20% buff is applied to classical MUs when you get to Heroic as well. So a cyclops for example would get buffed twice, once in heroic and once in mythic

[@Melth]

@@Fingolfin_the_Warden regarding lightning storm, doesn't it still do mostly pierce damage? Hence why it remains strong vs units but weak vs buildings

[@Fingolfin_the_Warden]

@@Melth Advanced tooltips mod (highly recommended btw) claims each strike inflicts 125 divine damage. The storm is stronger against units because it always prefers to target units first, and because units tend to have far less HP than buildings do.

[@Melth]

@@Fingolfin_the_Warden You're right. I just tested and it's divine damage now. In fact, it's BETTER than earthquake against buildings if there are only a few buildings. If a town center is the only available target, it will annihilate a town center in just a few seconds once it gets going. That's a weird change which is completely against how lightning storm was SUPPOSED to work.

[@jakobandersen3210]

Because of the house model i like to think of how cramped two hydras would be in one of those houses XD

[@Melth]

Maybe they chop off their extra heads every night to fit inside easier.

[@МихайлоМатвєєв-у3й]

​@@Melth😂😂

[@MrSpanishboss]

I am waiting all week to see this video.

[@Melth]

@@MrSpanishboss I can understand that! I was in suspense for about a week myself as to whether I could actually find a way to do this mission deathless or not

[@nivada94]

By watching your content again, with you doing aom again, youtube for the first time, actually also has offered me other aom content to watch, and i found intresting video's that you could do after you have completed the playtrough of the age of mythology retold campaign. The stuff I watched is basically a youtuber doing campaign missions but the scenario is a bit changed around, so instead of trying to destroy troy you most defend troy and the buildings, some seem a bit harder then others, and the fun you will have with those might vary, for example the troy scenario, is nice and fun to do, since you get to play as troy and push the greek back into the sea basically, with some challenges since they will send a good bit of stuff to fight you. While some others are less of a hit piece since there is one for example where they have to kill prometeus on the first mission you see that titan to win, which is more of a chore then a fun mission since it just involves trapping him with a relic in a specific spot, building towards where the prometeans spawn with strongholds and walls around with some priest inside to kill the spawns, while you basically unleash endless rocks via catapults on the titan while you switch ajax and amanda in and out of the battle to keep the titan in the same spot, to wear him down with their big regen. All by all it is a mixed bag. You might need to look into those, some scenarios are verry intresting for vieuwers to watch while others are more a chore and not really worth it.

[@Melth]

@@nivada94 interesting! The first part kind of sounds like a 'reversed campaign'. Someone made one of those for StarCraft for example, where you play as the enemy base against the (enhanced) player base Killing Prometheus certainly is a dull chore with the relic trapping + catapults method though. In any case, good to hear that KZbin is finally understanding that my videos are about Age of Mythology! The algorithm seems to foolishly show these videos only to my Baldur's Gate viewers, rather than spreading them to the community that is actually likely to be interested!

[@nivada94]

@@Melth Yeah, it is great to get content recommended that I actually do watch. The reason I don't watch your bg3 videos while they likely will be as entertaining as aom is mainly because, they probably are spoilery for the bg 3 story since I myself never went past act 1 in bg 3 so i try to avoid bg3 content as much as possible, till one day (when i finally play that again) finish it myself.

[@melonswag420]

I had a very tough time completing the fott campaign even on hard, let alone titan, going deathless in this run will pose a insane challenge especially in the later missions

[@Melth]

@@melonswag420 yeah, it already feels insane on this chapter. No idea if it'll even be possible. At the very least, once I'm out of the Greek campaign I'll be able to heal my units consistently

[@DiabeticNecromancer]

Man, I just kept spamming hydras and soldiers at the gate until I won. Well done!

[@Melth]

Hail hydra! They get the job done quite well on this mission, and spamming them out along with some archers is probably the easiest way to win it if one doesn't mind some casualties

[@Bilndmann]

I’m honestly impressed how they were able to remake this game with modern visuals without losing the 80s-90s old video game atmosphere There’s something about the UI and the graphics that still holds that, for lack of a better term, “archaic” feel, despite being clearly modern.

[@Melth]

@@Bilndmann I don't know- there are enough changes to things like the UI and the way basic controls like shift clicking work (or don't work) that it feels fairly different to me. I like some do the changes but not others. All in all, I wish it was more modernized I think. I would have loved if it had some of the useful RTS controls from later games like Warcraft 3 for example to let you manually cast your special abilities or turn on auto casting if you want. Or, for this challenge in particular, I would LOVE to be able to select injured units easily out of the control group as you can do in WC3 and StarCraft

[@rheiagreenland4714]

​@@MelthYou actually can manually cast abilities, and turn on or off auto-casting by right clicking the ability button (in the unit control panel)! You can cast them with hotkeys too of course (usually Q)

[@Melth]

@@rheiagreenland4714 ah ha, turning off auto casting is what I hoped for!

[@DarkNight2-y6d]

I love you❤ty (jigar=hearts)

[@Melth]

Thanks!

[@dakotaplatt8189]

Have you seen the info about the updates to farming? They no longer farm in quadrants so you can have them sitting right next to the TC for real now.

[@Melth]

@@dakotaplatt8189 I haven't seen anything about that. That sounds like it would fix one of the several things that always made farming terrible

[@Cetnam]

One thing occurred to me i understand there is a temple praying % loss with each villager on them but what if you made a second temple and had them on both at the same time would there be a change nice vid btw highlight of my day off wish i could see you do some online pvp

[@Melth]

I tested that during my economic video. Sadly, extra temples don't help. It's allll about total number of villagers praying, regardless of number of temples. Incidentally, a week or so after I made this video, they massively debuffed the favor gather rate if you have a lot of villagers on it.

[@Cetnam]

@@Melth Do you have any free time for streams maybe?

[@Melth]

@@Cetnam hm. I don't know if I'd do well streaming, since some people have trouble understanding what I'm saying unless I slow down by editing the video at fast parts

[@Cetnam]

@@Melth just looking for content to watch of aom i get picky when watching people

[@DutchyNeon]

do you count building losses as deaths, cant recall

[@Melth]

No, buildings aren't alive (maybe if I was playing Zerg instead of Greeks!)

[@МихайлоМатвєєв-у3й]

Hail hydra

[@Melth]

@@МихайлоМатвєєв-у3й immortal hydra!

[@МихайлоМатвєєв-у3й]

@@Melth 😀

[@Galos-SC]

While hydras/scyllas were definitely the spotlights for this mission (and in the entire greek campaign really), I actually used centaurs a lot here since they made the interesting decision in retold to swap you over to Hermes at the start. It is very satisfying to see that constant arrow rain and completely grind the attack waves.

[@Melth]

I agree, if you aren't trying to be deathless, centaurs are very good here. One strategy I tried before this fast heroic one involved massing juggernauts on the water to try to take out Cizicus that way, while holding the line with centaurs and fortresses and towers. It didn't work though. Fortresses are so weak now, and without hydras there was just no way to form a durable enough frontline without people sometimes dying

[@petercerven3925]

why didnt you upgrade the tech from dionysus that grants + 5% hp?

[@Melth]

I probably should have got that near the end when I had tons of favor to spare. But for most of the mission I didn't want to waste favor on it when I was trying to either mass hydras faster or save up for more earthquakes