John Lennox Discusses the Beginning of the Universe - Science Uprising Expert Interview

In this new bonus interview for the Science Uprising series, Oxford University mathematician John Lennox discusses whether the big bang theory disproves the need for God and several other provocative questions: Will science be able to unravel every mystery about the natural world? Does the universe need a creator? And does science point towards God?
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[@MarieH589]

May John Lennox continue to keep his brilliant mind.

[@paulmcglen9413]

More like a very misguided mind! He says that science cannot tell us about before the big bang, but the belief in a God tells us absolutely nothing about it! Nor can it ever.

[@mikem.s.1183]

I studied Theoretical Physics in the university. Still do, it's inevitably a never ending enterprise. His arguments are BRILLIANT. Typical of Mathematicians. May I/we keep such a lucid, intelligent, rational mind as the years go by, as he so easily shows.

[@marcocortes9968]

God Bless John Lennox and his family. I know it must be hard since he is almost 80. May God bless him with great health and gives him many more years on Earth. I love listening to him explain things.

[@noobsaibot5285]

He has some great points. Just ignore the evolutionist propaganda. That is a huge part of the decline of the church.

[@maryfrancis2494]

Why ? He mostly doesn't know what he's talking about.

[@noneofyourbusinessna740]

@@maryfrancis2494 perhaps you dont know what your talking about budd?

[@jamesfenning47]

@@maryfrancis2494 You Have Clue What Talking You Must Be Catholic They Don,t Tell Truth

[@rolandsaffy7719]

@@maryfrancis2494 I love how people make one liner criticisms without any facts or data to back up their claims. Why is no one interviewing you and 150K people watching? I think this fact speaks for itself.

[@livetwice7702]

I could listen to John Lennox all day

[@seanrathmakedisciples1508]

I’ve listened to this video over and over again. John is great source of knowledge. He is so precise in his thoughts. ❤

[@paddydiskin3645]

There is a man who knows his subject. He can explain it in language that anybody can understand and has no need to impress people outside his specialty with scientific jargon and try to befuddle the masses. Bravo Prof. Lennox !

[@Shytot-1]

He's a mathematician, not a scientist. As for befuddling the masses, he's doing a very good job at that as well.

[@Atomic568]

One of Northern Ireland’s greatest thinkers, scientists, mathematician & Christian’s. Brilliant mind.

[@damo780]

Thank God for Christian scientists like Professor Lrnnox🙏

[@maryfrancis2494]

Surprise ! Hes not a scientist, never was. He does math, he's out of his league.

[@jonkettell4321]

@@maryfrancis2494 Noone worth his salt disputes the fact that Dr. Lennox is a scientist. Besides, science is not the only way to truth.

[@sonnypruitt6639]

@@maryfrancis2494 Not only is mathematics a science, but mathematics is the perfect science, superior to all others.

[@malcolmbiddle2681]

@@sonnypruitt6639 And yet he has views that cannot be proven by any known mathematics.

[@rubiks6]

@@maryfrancis2494 - A piece of paper on the wall does not make someone a scientist. Anyone who does science is a scientist. I think maybe you don't even know what "science" is.

[@sonamoo919]

A very charming man with bright countenance and profound intelligence! Love the way he argues!

[@Marius.82.]

I missed him so much! God bless you Sir !

[@robschade5373]

Science continues to point to a creator

[@muslimwoolfy-winterequestr4344]

And it always will

[@shankz8854]

Why then are there so many atheist scientists? Why are scientists on the whole becoming less religious? Elite scientists are one of the least religious groups on earth.

[@ahmadfrhan5265]

@@shankz8854 that's not true at all. elite scientist are all religious. why are you lying?

[@Jonas-gl9ke]

If you believe there is a “creator”, how would you expect the universe to look if there wasn’t a creator?

[@rubiks6]

@@shankz8854 - "... _many_ atheist scientists …"? Perhaps you should ask why there are _so many_ atheist human beings and also so many believers in false religions. It would seem that our first ancestors, Adam and Eve rejected God and lost the Spirit of Gᴏᴅ, and thus you and I and the scientists and all of humanity are fumbling around in the dark trying to find "truth" which comes only from the Spirit of Gᴏᴅ. Sure we can collect lots of evidences but our interpretations of those evidences will always be skewed unless we apply the revealed truths of Gᴏᴅ written in His Word to them. _"Why then are there so many atheist scientists?"_ Because our oldest ancestor rejected truth and believed a lie and that rejection of truth is a character trait passed on to all of us. Like father, like son(s). Hadn't you heard?

[@Born1976]

Appreciate John Lennox so much!

[@kobusvandermerwe7288]

Me too Michael. I really hope that he lives and teaches for a few more years to come.

[@IntoAllTruth.]

I was taught in grade school that spontaneous generation of life from non-life is impossible. I will add that getting something from nothing is equally impossible. There must be a motivating, designing force to bring these things to pass.

[@brud1729]

And yet here we are! Certainly when the earth was a hot molten mess there was no life and just 4 billion years later we had dinosaurs roaming all parts of the earth, with no man in sight. Somewhere along the way life was spawned from non-life. After that life progressed as described by Darwin and Dawkins. As Hawkins said, no need for mythological figures.

[@ronaldorivera4674]

​@@brud1729 If your mind is nothing more than a product of random mutations, and mindless unguided processes what gives you reason to trust the validity of what your brain produces? Or why should anyone? Your simply molecules in motion responding to the chemical reactions in your brain and as Richard Dawkins says " dancing to your DNA" you have no objective standard to make any truth claims, or that your view is correct, because the brain serves evolutionary success not truth.

[@nzrockdj]

Yes I would agree and the designing force is God our father in heaven and his words created heaven and earth

[@GetSaucedOn]

@@brud1729you didn’t actually say anything here. You proved his point actually. “Somewhere along the way life came from non life.” Is that it? You stopped there? He claims that there is no answer to how life came from non life, and to use your own words. Yet here we are! Still not knowing how life came from non life. You should contemplate what you write before hitting send.

[@paulanderson3898]

@@brud1729nonsense

[@dewbye63]

“For the scientist who has lived by his faith in the power of reason, the story ends like a bad dream. He has scaled the mountains of ignorance, he is about to conquer the highest peak; as he pulls himself over the final rock, he is greeted by a band of theologians who have been sitting there for centuries.” ― Robert Jastrow, God and the Astronomers

[@therick363]

Doesn't equal truth of reality.

[@EmeraldPixelGamingEPG]

@@therick363 Did he say it did?

[@rebanelson607]

@@therick363 Reality is more than material. Something that does not have material substance is not disqualified from existence. Scientism is not logical.

[@kimbuoy1]

I love this quote!

[@ScotsThinker]

First! We love you John Lennox! God bless you!

[@josephtimmerriman3884]

Love your teachings Dr Lennox , God bless you and your family and her friends and your ministry

[@jimborowy8160]

This is a beautiful video! Of course there is a God! There is so much evidece it is mind blowing.

[@missk1697]

There is no "Evidence" for any gods from scientific perspective. No evidence for materialism either, of course. But in science, disproving A doesn't automatically prove B or C. The only honest answer to the question "Where did universe come from", at least for now, is "We don't know".

[@wilhelmlorenz5852]

👉🤔I Really Hope people as Smart as All the SCIENTISTS 😁🌞🔆🌞🔆🌞🌄❤️❣️❤️👋👈🙏👉 WILL Start Believing that there's a CREATOR Behind All of the Laws That RUN The WONDERFUL UNIVERSE ❤️❣️❤️👋🙏😇📔💖👈

[@rubiks6]

If you remove the indefinite article from in front of "God" your statement will be perfect. *Of course, there is Gᴏᴅ!*

[@shankz8854]

What’s the best piece of evidence?

[@ahmad_hasayen]

@@missk1697 of course no evidence ... science does not give u the truth or certainty. the question about the god is metaphysical question :means : Science cannot answer .

[@Skriften]

Spot on! This is exactly the "starting point" I have used in certain confrontations. "Nothing creates nothing, Therefore something must have existed eternally". And when all factors are accounted for you will come to one conclusion: "1. An Intelligence Superior or 2. Everything has always existed". And from this the debate goes on...

[@colinmatts]

You're strawmaning the position of non belief in a god. No one seriously makes an argument that "nothing creates nothing".

[@eltonron1558]

Number 2, is no good. All matter has age. There is no eternity of matter.

[@Jesus_is_Lord_316]

@@colinmatts you need to listen to this video again.

[@kennethgee2004]

@@colinmatts Dr. Lawrence Krauss argues that nothing made the universe. Dr. Stephen Hawking said that the universe will create itself out of nothing. are you sure you know what people are claiming?

[@cobramcjingleballs]

@@colinmatts It's literally big bang theory....oddly, an atheist choose option 2 and created steady state theory because he basically if the catholics can make matter out of nothing, so can I, but all over the place. I love people who don't know science history.

[@virginiashroyer2279]

Thank God for Mr. Lennox! He has done an amazing job on defending God in a world of unbelief!

[@johnbrown6189]

why do you think God needs defending?

[@mathew4181]

*An Overview of the Fine tuning argument* For many, the regularity of the universe and the precision with which the universe exploded into being provides even more evidences for the existence of God. This evidence technically known as the Teleological argument, derives its name from the Greek word telos, which means "design." The Teleological argument goes like this: 1. Every design has a designer 2. The universe has high- complex design 3. Therefore, the universe has a designer *The Anthropic Principle* Scientists are finding the universe is like that watch ( anology of William Paley ), except even more precisely designed. These highly-precise and interdependent environmental conditions (called "anthropic constants") make up what is known as the "Anthropic Principle"-- a title for the mounting evidence that has many scientists believing the universe is extremely fine tuned (designed) to support human life on earth (Thats why some notorious atheists including Antony Flew later believed in God). Some Anthropic constants example include: Oxygen level • On earth, oxygen comprises 21 percent of the atmosphere • That precise figure is an Anthropic constant that make life in earth possible. • If oxygen were 25 percent fire would erept spontaneously • If it were 15 percent, human beings would suffocate Carbon dioxide level • If the carbon dioxide level was higher than it is now, a runaway greenhouse effect would develop, and we would all burnt up • If the level was lower than it is now, plants would not be able to maintain efficient photosynthesis, and we would all suffocate For more evidence: reasons.org/explore/blogs/tag/fine-tuning/page/2 reasons.org/explore/publications/articles/rtb-design-compendium-2009 *What are the chances?* It's not there just a few broadly defined constants that may have resulted by chance. There are more than 100 very narrowly defined constants that strongly point to an Intelligent Designer. Astrophysicist, Hugh Ross, calculated the probability these and other constants would exist for any planet in the universe by chance (i.e, without divine design). To meet all conditions, there is 1 chance in 10^1038 (one chance in one with 1038 zeroes after it)-- essentially 0% chance. According to probability theory, odds of less than 1 in 10^50 equals " zero probability" . Check:reasons.org/explore/publications/articles/probability-for-life-on-earth It only proves that atheism is just a dogmatic belief. Nearly 2000 years ago, the apostle St Paul wrote in his letter to the Romans, *_" For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities--his eternal power and divine nature--have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse"_* _Important: The term “entropy” describes degree of thermodynamic “disorder” in a closed system like the universe. “Maximum entropy” would describe the “heat death” of the universe (which is the state it is slowly gravitating towards). Amazingly, our universe was at its “minimum entropy” at the very beginning, which begs the question “how did it get so orderly?” Looking just at the initial entropy conditions, what is the likelihood of a universe supportive of life coming into existence by coincidence? One in billions of billions? Or trillions of trillions of trillions? Or more?_ _Sir Roger Penrose, 2020 Nobel prize winner and a close friend of Stephen Hawking, wondered about this question and tried to calculate the probability of the initial entropy conditions of the Big Bang_ _According to Penrose, the odds against such an occurrence were on the order of 10 to the power of 10^123 to 1_ _It is hard even to imagine what this number means. In math, the value 10^123 means 1 followed by 123 zeros. (This is, by the way, more than the total number of atoms [10^79] believed to exist in the whole universe.) But Penrose's answer is vastly more than this: It requires 1 followed by 10^10^123 zeros_ _It’s important to recognize that we're not talking about a single unlikely event here. We’re talking about hitting the jackpot over and over again, nailing extremely unlikely, mutually complementary parameters of constants and quantities, far past the point where chance could account for it_

[@bishnukumar7471]

Appreciate the time u took to write. Enjoyed

[@michaelbailey8478]

Thank you for that excellent content. If you are not a teacher, you should be one.

[@shipwright6122]

My favorite apologist 🙏🏼✝️😇

[@landofthefree2023]

Bless you John Lennox... Bless the availability of this technology which makes you known to us. Our lives are truly enriched because of our Lord and you. I'm so thankful to experience your wisdom and your understanding. The perspective you bring is genuinely a true inspiration.

[@leroybrown9143]

Statements by Hawking, et al, demonstrate the truth and accuracy of Is 55:9. Even the sharpest minds in humanity are reduced to mundane fools and blubbering idiots when they presume and pretend to comprehend the things of God. Believers know, and have always known, these two fundamental truths: God alone is self-eternal and God alone is infinite. Applied anywhere else these terms are misnomers.

[@rubiks6]

_"Seek ye the Lᴏʀᴅ while he may be found, call ye upon him while he is near: Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the Lᴏʀᴅ, and he will have mercy upon him; and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon. For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the Lᴏʀᴅ._ *For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.* _For as the rain cometh down, and the snow from heaven, and returneth not thither, but watereth the earth, and maketh it bring forth and bud, that it may give seed to the sower, and bread to the eater: So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it. For ye shall go out with joy, and be led forth with peace: the mountains and the hills shall break forth before you into singing, and all the trees of the field shall clap their hands."_ Isaiah 55.6 - 12 (KJV) (Emphasis added.)

[@t00by00zer]

God is OUTSIDE the universe. The universe is HIS creation. Until He had the idea, the universe did not exist. It was formless and void until He spoke a sound, a vibration, and set into motion all that came afterward. If He imagined a boundless universe, then it is boundless. An infinite within and infinitely greater infinite. And being eternal, then when would the universe have begun on His "time scale" since He is outside of time? We are made in His image . . . we are an idea, His idea, and being in His image, we are then also eternal. We existed before we were born. We will exist after our "time" in this temporal illusion. His Kingdom is not of this world. It is not of the temporal, but of the eternal.

[@johncastino2730]

Exactly right Leroy. Well said.

[@eswn1816]

Absolutely! Infinity applied to the non-spiritual, material world is unsubstantiated and absurd!

[@shankz8854]

That’s what believers _think._ They can’t _know_ anymore than the rest of us.

[@andrewgraham7659]

This is perhaps the best channel I have stumbled across. I wasn't looking for anything in particular but I know many scientists by reputation and by getting into apologetics. Man needs God, it's not the other way around.

[@throckmortensnivel2850]

The term "Big Bang" wasn't coined by those who believe the universe had a beginning. It was first used by Fred Hoyle, who believed in the so-called "steady state" universe. He used the term in 1949, saying it was not used in a perjorative sense, although it does seem a bit perjorative on the face of it. In any case, the originators of the theory did not call it an explosion, and they didn't say there was an actual bang.

[@DrayDray78]

Thank you 🙏 Lord for fine tuning brother John Lennox to coexist simultaneously as a Christian, scientist, mathematician, an author ✍️ and a well spoken gentleman we can all learn from! Amen 🙏 0:02

[@colinsmith1288]

Love this guy. His humility is quite comforting.

[@alfiearock]

A brilliant human being is John Lennox

[@hulkai3436]

Impressive logical points 👍

[@arkangelnorthman]

Wisdom.

[@wilhelmlorenz5852]

👉🙏🤗ONE OF MY FAVORITE APOLOGETICS PEOPLE 👈,🤔👉A REAL MAN OF GOD.. 👈👉❤️🙏 I PRAY 🙏 THAT GOD WILL BLESS THIS PRESENTATION 🤗🌹👈

[@isaiahben-yahweh3245]

This man is too funny, his intelligence makes his jokes that much funnier. How can you say "Now I give lectures about nothing." While still keeping a mostly straight face, ROFL

[@chrisburton8079]

God bless critical thinkers and scholars like Prof J Lennox he is an amazing man

[@santadeville242]

critical thinker?

[@johnbrown6189]

not even close to that@@santadeville242

[@KenJackson_US]

No one has ever observed anything cause itself. So it's strictly a matter of *faith* to believe the universe caused itself to come into existence.

[@ScotsThinker]

indeed Mr. Jackson.

[@MyMy-tv7fd]

that not what he said - God created it, not itself creating itself

[@bennyredpilled5455]

Creating itself is absolute non-sense

[@urso3000]

In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. Only the blind don't want to see.

[@6666666662]

Anything other than a divine creator. I mean anything!

[@idontwantacallsign]

So logical. Thank you for sharing and thank you to John Lennox for his logical reasoning. Of course there is a God. Romans 1:20-21 say it very directly: For his invisible qualities are clearly seen from the world’s creation onward, because they are perceived by the things made, even his eternal power and Godship, so that they are inexcusable. 21 For although they knew God, they did not glorify him as God nor did they thank him, but they became empty-headed in their reasonings and their senseless hearts became darkened.

[@just_bee9482]

Amen 🙏

[@gloriacasali470]

AMEN !

[@radosawszmid7822]

Kardashev scale Type I is still beyond our reach with such logic...

[@Shabeck100]

Great video on many levels - particularly on fine tuning and the reality that there is something rather than nothing...and I say this as a "relatively" (since ancient means thousands not millions ordinarily) young earth creationist who, unlike John Lennox, holds to an universe/earth of around 6-8000 yrs old & who sees Big Bang Theory historically as largely an effort to justify cosmic evolution and "creation" (in a wholly different order than presented in Genesis) without a Creator.

[@charlieread]

Enjoyable and so informative. I'm glad I came across some of your videos!

[@johnmcgahan1001]

God brought John Lennox to my attention i've now watched several interviews now .

[@muslimwoolfy-winterequestr4344]

Underated channel

[@emsans5904]

I adore John Lennox, I’d love to have lunch with him so we could have a deeply interesting conversation. We just so happen to live in the same city, maybe one day I will be blessed by bumping into him 🥰

[@MarkJones-fw3mo]

I have listened to him many times. Has convinced me of nothing except he should stick to teaching in his field.

[@lawrencefox9225]

The question is not only "why is there something?" but also if not more so "why is there a rational something?"

[@jonpayne4319]

John Lennox is just fantastic. He’s sharp, on-point and even cheerful too. Such an inspiration.

[@steadfastneasy26]

I could listen to this man read the numbers from the stock exchange.

[@cavendish009]

Such an interesting talk and something which should be shouted all round the world to make us ALL wake up !

[@scottwalker3404]

A GENIOUS.

[@nickip6189]

I've always looked at science as being the on going discovery and understanding of God's creation. Simple!

[@greggy553]

Hawking didn't makes sense to me, but I thought I just didn't understand. Thank you sir.

[@tomwaldenofficial]

Enjoyed watching . . . thanks

[@jimberezow721]

Looks like John has lost some weight. Always love listening to him.

[@onsenguy]

Yes he did lose some weight, with God's help..

[@jamesthomson9039]

We Love John Lennox very much

[@Jonas-gl9ke]

You mean “you” love John Lennox very much.

[@jntj3007]

Thank you Mr. Lennox. God bless.

[@christophercoughlin2886]

Exactly, where does that gravitational law come from?

[@sherrilltechnology]

What a brilliant man, may God continue to bless the words of his mouth!! Very good video!

[@kuwaitisnotadeployment1373]

I like this guy

[@jimtruscott5670]

The Genesis version of the beginning and The Big Bang Theory are a little different, Dear Professor Lennox.

[@kyle-rv7zd]

Man today's science needs more scientists like this man in a very bad way.

[@bjhcvuaerpigfy]

he is a mathematician, not a scientist, and knows very little of science. As a mathematician, he does know about probability and he knows that all of the arguments for god based on probability are wrong. Does he come out and say so? Of course not. He is not interested in the truth.

[@tomgreene1843]

@@bjhcvuaerpigfy Why are they wrong?

[@chouleanghak5085]

Thank you, professor Lennox, for all the blessing clarities you've made in debates with the atheists with regard to the existence of God. I really enjoy listening to you. I may be a poor student of one of your students, I'm almost 70 years old now, but still I do not see a value in any of such debates. I mean obviously any attempt to convince the atheists to have faith in God the Creator would seemingly be impossible and perhaps such a debate would likely push them further away. I wonder if the spirit of Satan is behind each and everyone of those atheists starting from Charles Darwin. I need to write "this point" again and again. The atheists are obsessed with finding "evidences" when searching for the existence of God the Creator of all things. And I wholeheartedly agree with their rational obsession. For the time being, however, I see no possible way, or argument, to convince any of them of God's existence. I see that they'd go very deep in their atheistic explanation in any of the debate, and I hardly understand their profound findings. So profound that at some point I see instead that it is quite shallow. For example they see all the intelligent designs in all things all around but that still don't convince them. In the Bible God said any of His spoken words cannot and will not return to Him void. During the creation of this earth He said "let there be light" and in a second, seemingly, the huge bright sun appeared in the sky. What else did God say that we must heed? His spoken words said this; Christ will return to earth in due time that at those glorious moments "all eyes" will witness His glory. And voila! All atheists eyes will witness the shocking moments and they will immediately and fearfully feel shame. He further said many will run to the mountains and shout to the rocks to fall upon them so that they can be hidden from God's Mighty Face. They cannot bear the immense fear in their hearts at those moments. His spoken words will definitely come to pass. This message should be an eye opener to all atheists out there. This is God's unbroken promise among all other promises. One of His promises to mankind, some 2 thousand years ago, was that He will gather the Jews from all corners of the earth back to their homeland. Israel was erased from the world map for more than 2 thousand years. And now we witness this truth and the Jews are back in their homeland with wonderous and blessed strength in self defense. This message is intended chiefly for all the atheists out there. Hell and Heaven are two different worlds. God bless you professor Lennox and family and God bless all who read and heed the warnings of His Second Coming. ...

[@ErikPehrsson]

“You need the laws of nature.” Ok. But where did those laws come from?? 🤯🤯

[@tiffanymagee2700]

Excellent video! John Lennox's passion for presenting the truth is inspiring!! Well done.

[@Notarabbit911]

I would like to have a one on one conversation with this Lennox , I would shut him up very quickly.

[@user-iv5ng3yn5p]

He was there ,he knows

[@sgjosephng]

Thank you for the video. God created the universe and saw it was good. He set laws for it to sustain efficiently. Nature and the animal kingdom obeys it but some men too prideful, has in general refused to acknowledge Him and His majestic creation, has created a mess and now finding ways trying to diminish His existence and explaining things that are so complicated that sometimes make no sense! The way forward is good stewardship towards what God has given us in His creation. Make sure we discover the science and engineering behind to put our stewardship to good use and according to what God has intended it to be! May God be the glory!

[@ronaldmorgan7632]

Science: The method of answering the question--How did God do it?

[@idontwantacallsign]

You will never be able to understand it fully. Ecclesiastes 3:11 He has made everything beautiful in its time. He has even put eternity in their heart; yet mankind will never find out the work that the true God has made from start to finish.

[@MrFossil367ab45gfyth]

I agree that science helps us understand God's creation. However, it can't prove nor disprove God.

[@1969cmp]

He spoke the universe into existence, by The Word of God.

[@victorcastillo8653]

Dios Omnipotente siempre vence AMEN bendiciones

[@JohnVandivier]

Well done.

[@andrewstidham7950]

I don't believe in a big bang I believe in LET THERE BE LIGHT!

[@gray41]

One does not have enough faith to believe it all started by random accident and chaos and we are here today because of all these millions of random perfect accidents. Youd be crazy to believe that

[@geobla6600]

Krauss's idea that non-existent gravity created gravity which in turn created the matter which created gravity which then went on to create the billions of galaxies is absurd? If it wasn't for such a large percentage of researchers who give their own atheistic beliefs much , much more merit then it deserves , people like Krauss and many others would be critically critiqued right out of a job.

[@tedgrant2]

I've got moths in my house and weeds in my garden. God is keeping me busy !

[@johannabezuidenhout4252]

What a great explanation on his profession great man to listen to God bless him!

[@kenfaulds8818]

Love John Lennox in the Lord.

[@a.j.beltran4795]

When I was in primary school in the 70s, matter is defined as "anything that has mass and cannot be destroyed nor created".

[@VerifyTheTruth]

In My Opinion, The Best Argument For Intelligent Design Lay In The Formal And Foundational Definitions Of Intelligence And Design.

[@VerifyTheTruth]

By General Observation, Either, What We Humans Call Universal Nature, Or It's Supernatural Authorship, Is Intelligent Enough To Generate Replicant Sentient Life.

[@simwierdsma4882]

God is in many ways beyond our comprehension the heavens declare his glory.

[@scoredkoi]

So what I’m hearing is that a quantum vacuum and even laws of nature is nothing more than a God of the gaps

[@davidmessulam]

❤️

[@Michaelangelo-eh7bb]

I am so happy that you have come to the same conclusion as I have about nothing, since I was a child I have never understood this absolutely absurd argument that so called intellectuals make.

[@gregorcollins]

Such a gift that we all have such a brilliant man out there doing this all so we don’t have to

[@petermatthew123]

John Lennox has a sharp mind & his book Gunning for God (Why the new Atheists are missing the target) is a brilliant analysis of the weaknesses of their arguements & worlview . I still have questions however about his book 7 Days that divide the World which attempts to reconcile evolutionary ideas with the idea of a long-aged earth. His arguments for this & his attempts to reconcile the Genisis account with a frame work idea rather than a consecutive timeline of events 9(i..e 7 24 hr days) seem quite contrived to make it fit. Also he does not discuss the notion that the universe rather than be created by a Creator, has always existed either as matter or energy & is constantly changing over time from one form to another.

[@mchooksis]

I haven't yet read his book, but it is on my very long list of things to read. However, I am slightly put off by your comment "is a brilliant analysis of the weaknesses of their arguments & worldview .". If this is what the book is about, then it must surely be an analysis of a strawman. But it also points to the fact that he simply does not know what an atheist is. An atheist is simply a person who doesn't have a god in their lives because they see no robust evidence for the existence of any god. That's it. Pure and simple. And most atheists have no interest at all in "Gunning for God". Of course they "Miss the target". To an atheist there is no target to aim for.Beyond that any atheists can have hugely different views about any number of topics. Many don't even have any interest in origins of the universe, evolution, or anything scientific at all. Many other atheists are devout followers of other religions and world/spiritual views such as Buddhism, Jainism Shinto, Paganism, wiccan Hinduism and many beliefs of the varied indigenous native cultures around the world . Does John cover these as well in his analysis? I cannot see how he could possibly do this in a mere 250 pages. For a book this short, he must be aiming at perceived arguments & worldview that almost no atheist has. Hence the strawman comment above,

[@mikebellamy]

There is a Big problem with the Big bang: *The origin of matter!* Mass of universe = 1e80 protons = 1.67e53 Kg Escape velocity = v = √(2GM/r) therefore r = 2GM/v2 Substitute M = 1.67e53 and v = 3e8 m/sec (speed of light) The minimum diameter of the universe below which it will collapse into a black hole is 52.5 billion light years Hence the matter in the universe could not be created in the early hot stage when the universe was small! Also Running the universe back in time is not the same for energy and matter as assumed in all these models! Think of a candle burning (like star we see today) the ENERGY goes back to a very small point BUT the MATTER does not! It gets bigger until it reaches a maximum mass and then STOPS. Stars must by the second law do the same they can only go back to the point of maximum hydrogen and that is their minimum entropy state! That means the real Big Bang was first an expansion of space and energy with no mass then the creation of stars in their lowest entropy state or maximum hydrogen fuel state. Which actually matches what the bible says God did in the opening chapter of Genesis! Day 1 God said "let there be light" expansion of space and photon energy giving us the very smooth CMBR Day 4 God said "he made the stars also" after the expansion by collapsing the wave energy into atoms of hydrogen Since we know from Young's experiment a particle's history is written retrospectively back from the moment of measurement by the *MIND* that measured the wave so there is no problem with this occurring 6000 years ago. The history of the stars observed by Adam is real on the day they were made even though he was looking back billions of years it was instantly there for him to see.

[@rfracing9112]

Listen to Richard Carrier

[@davidticktum6867]

Only just discovered this wonderful man, very intelligent but humble at the same time. Little me, who is nowhere near this man's brain, has been thinking from the time that I could really think that something doesn't come from nothing despite all the scientific spill. Guess that's God giving to all who love Him including brilliant John and little me.

[@braamneethling7]

Joni Mitchell said in the sixties that we are carbon stardust etc

[@SajiSNairNair-tu9dk]

Substanear ?

[@MarieH589]

Just imagine having this man as a friend.

[@theother1281]

Is there anything that proves the start of the universe needed a creator? What evidence is there that it isn't a non-intentional natural process?

[@davidbrock4104]

Excellent

[@cobramcjingleballs]

I would correct him on the fine tuning of the universe while for life, is foremost just to allow stars and atoms to exist....then you can talk about atomic properties like water and carbon that allow life to exist. then impossibility of life existing from chance.

[@haarychoudrey313]

excellent. Thank you!

[@goldfield78]

Excellent content, do a low cut on the audio to eliminate the hum please.

[@rebanelson607]

The fine tuning of the universe is fascinating. And we have access to it. How does materialism/scientism deal with the inaccessible?

[@bobwilkinson2008]

What fine tuning?

[@Grumszy]

The Bible had the beginning all in the correct order. Written thousands of years ago proving God's creation.

[@shankz8854]

Utter nonsense. Things are in the wrong order right from the start - Genesis clearly states the heavens and the earth were created _before_ light. This is totally wrong.

[@LoneWolfATTACK]

@@shankz8854 How do you know that? It very well could mean that God was referring to light on earth and not light in general. God was above the surface of the earth when He said, “Let there be light.” Which btw, was covered in water. Science has confirmed the earth’s surface was nearly 100% water. Yet another correct prediction the Bible has made.

[@shankz8854]

@@LoneWolfATTACK yeah light in the solar system preceded the earths formation. So this is wrong. Also, which scientists say the earths surface was nearly 100% water? Citation needed. This is not at all close to how the earth actually formed.

[@colinmatts]

No it doesn't have the correct order. It has light before the sun. That's even before it suggested that a species could begin with just two specimens

[@fredcalledbygod]

@@shankz8854 The first Genesis chapter is an account of the recreation of the heavens(skies) and the earth not the Universe. People are just unable to distinguish between the atmospheric, astral and angelic heavens that the Bible uses interchangeably.

[@AdamosDad]

God spoke the universe into existence and His voice reverberates even down to the strings.

[@twosheds1749]

Lennox, so the universe is fine tuned is it? Does that include, earthquakes, tsunamis, hurricanes, volcanos, radiation, cosmic rays, solar flares, asteroid strikes? Please do tell?

[@karel8y]

The big bang is the earliest known event in the universe history. However, that doesn't imply perse that it was also the absolute beginning of the universe.

[@rizdekd3912]

Indeed, it seems to me what is now called the universe...this expanding existence of matter/energy somehow enmeshed in time/space is just one arrangement or manifestation of the natural world.

[@surrenderdaily333]

Well someone back then knew the universe moved (God, of course, since He inspired the scriptures, but the people who read Job knew what God wanted them to know about the movement of the universe) because of what it says in Job about the constellations. There was also something about Orion's belt being "loosened" or something like that, that scientists have just discovered in the last century. From earth that's what it looks like, but I can't recall the name of the phenomenon. It wasn't until the later Greek culture and the later centuries after that, that stopped the earth, made the earth the center, made the universe eternal, and made the earth flat. People were a lot smarter before that time.

[@antoniopioavallone1137]

I agree with all he said.

[@brandonjeeboo]

Brilliant chap GOD BLESS 🙏💯

[@multimacg2399]

Nice one

[@stormythelowcountrykitty7147]

For the algorithm