Disturbing Unsolved Mysteries (Pt. 1)

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0:00 Start
1:12 Robert Eric Wone
18:25 The Dardeen Family
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[@olsmellyknuckles9653]

I’m sorry it may be my messed up humor but the dispatcher repeatedly calling that flamboyant man ma’am is killing me.

[@frogurtcremebrulee5252]

Haha gay people funny🙄 I don’t care if those men killed that guy that’s no reason to be homophobic

[@ChaosAngel9151]

​@@frogurtcremebrulee5252 where's the homophobia?

[@saintsugoi]

same dude 💀

[@delta6704]

💀😭

[@MrJest2]

It was an easy mistake to make. Doesn't really alter anything; she did her job reasonably well.

[@Imaslutforpuns]

The second case seems very very emotionally driven to me…for the killer to isolate Keith and remove his genitalia just seems very strange for a random murder 💀

[@ggg-ng3tm]

Unless it was a Jeffrey Dahmer type murderer or something

[@sunmi4prez]

it seems even more sus that out of any part of the human body they chose his genitals.. that's quite specific, usually that type of stuff has a sexual element to it

[@WithDiameter]

Not to mention how the baby was handled

[@Nathan_H1gg3rz]

Just a bunch of fairies attacking the object of their obsession. Careful studying evil; that you don't become evil.

[@Imaslutforpuns]

@@Nathan_H1gg3rz lmfao I didn’t think people still called gay people fairies 💀💀

[@Mad.Dog.Murdoch]

With the Robert Wone case there was evidence that the men were into BDSM, in particular Joseph and Dylan - with Dylan being in the dominant role. It was also noted that Viktor wasn't so much into BDSM and wouldn't really join in on it. They also found evidence that Wone had climaxed and his bodily fluids were found in his rectum suggesting he was sexually assaulted (or perhaps willingly participated in some bondage play - depending on how you see things). They also found an asphyxiation device in Dylan's room that is used during BDSM sessions. A theory I heard was that Wone was potentially overpowered, drugged and assaulted by Joseph and Dylan but it went too far which lead to him dying or close to death. Joseph was a high profile lawyer in that area so this would have damaged his career and reputation so they had to stage it to look like an intruder killed Wone. The scream that was heard at around 11:30pm could have been Viktor discovering that his partners had accidentally killed Wone. I am so torn as to whether Wone was an active participant in the BDSM stuff or he was taken advantage of - for me there's a pretty good case that can be built for either instance. My heart breaks for him and his family either way - if he was gay (or bi) and had to hide that part of himself from his family or he was actually drugged and killed by his so called friends that night. Tragic either way.

[@Spankee99]

I think you’re on the right track. I do find it odd that Robert stayed with these guys overnight instead of going home to his wife. I get not wanting to wake her up but that seems odd to me. Seems like he was staying there for a reason that he couldn’t share.

[@Carolinefdq]

I don't think it was consensual because there's evidence he was injected with a paralytic (that's why there were puncture wounds in his body).

[@themightybalian]

@@Carolinefdq Actually, there's no evidence of that at all. It was stated in the video that the toxicology report found nothing in his blood. Also, why would they inject him numerous times in different parts of his body? The needles actually reinforce the BDSM theory because needle play in fairly common in BDSM and that actually would explain the numerous different puncture sites.

[@rs-mt6kl]

​@@Carolinefdqthat's actually not true lol the above commenter already said it better than I could. Also there's quite a bit of evidence leaning towards Robert having to hide that part of himself from his wife and family. I think he was an occasional active participant

[@hennylo68]

​@@Spankee99Agreed, rarely is a straight man gonna wanna spend the night with 3 gay guys. I sure as hell would not and not know anyone that would do that.

[@benjaminmatheny6683]

One red flag from the First case for me is their lack of paranoia after the attack. If you had someone break into your house and murder a guest, you would be freaking out. Are they still there? Will they come back? The three men are way too calm for their story to be true. They know they aren't in danger.

[@elijah6496]

also it was said to happen at nearly 11, but the call was made at 11:49, and a few minutes later when police showed up, it was obvious that they (and robert) had all showered. its so sick that this case is unsolved when they are all obviously guilty.

[@smears6039]

@@elijah6496 yeah the neighbors specifically said they heard screaming at 11 which they were sure of the exact time due to the TV schedule

[@J.C...]

Killers never "come back" nor do they stay there and hide out for a week. Youre being illogical.

[@J.C...]

​@@elijah6496 there's no "obviously guilty". You're just assuming based on half azz evidence. There's a reason they haven't been charged with murder. Because people with degrees and careers in this KNOW they can't prove it. So it must not be that obvious.

[@nm7358]

@@J.C... You are correct, evidence is required to bring prosecution. But police investigators are not idiots, either - if four people are inside a walled space and one of them dies violently while the others are present, the most likely explanation is that at least one of them committed the crime. It's one of those cases where police know who the likely responsible might be, but cannot prove it beyond reasonable doubt. What's exceptional here is that none of them are talking, even if one of them could easily bargain for immunity in exchange for their testimony.

[@donnablack6280]

The fact that the Dardeens car was left outside a police station feels significant.

[@nm7358]

Likely an ultimate taunt to the police: "I shall park the guy's car full of blood from the crime scene right in your face, and still you won't find me." Whoever did that wasn't at his first homicide, it has all the hallmarks of a seasoned serial killer.

[@user-oz5ku7jc8k]

did tommy lee sells leave it there for hints at the killings???

[@desperado3236]

Nah, i doubt he had anything to do with it. My guess is either a serial killer or gang killing. Keith might of done something to piss them off, like ripped them off while smuggling (hence the weed found) The timeline is also blurry. Dont know why he was killed seperateky but the car being left at a cop shop is def a taunt.

[@adrielsebastian5216]

Oh my god, the Dardeen family case has always stuck with me for how brutal and violent it was. And for what?

[@jaybird8887]

Infatuation?

[@Chuckina_]

Evil is very real.

[@Nathan_H1gg3rz]

Thou shalt not kill Thou shalt not bang your buddies butt It ain't rocket science bud 🙏

[@RomTheVacuumedSpider]

I grew up in the area! Every once in a while, it’ll come up in conversation. The Tommy Lynn Sells theory is generally considered garbage. Something about Mt Vernon that feels significant is that it is a crossroads where two interstates meet. Basically, great place for crime/movement. It’s a straight shot down from Chicago, through Champaign. You got St Louis straight to the west, Louisville to the East. Ina is directly south of Mt Vernon. Keith Dardeen was, factually, a good man. He and his family did nothing to deserve that kind of death, which is usually reserved for the men who screw over some Chicago mobs. And their families, of course. Ina is remote - don’t let the population number fool you, they started counting the inmates at Big Muddy State Penitentiary into the population in the 90’s. Remote, quiet, boring. Great place to stash things. All in all, the theories around town are 1. He turned down requests (demands) from a mob to be a stash house/mule, or 2. Mistaken Identity.

[@kittyformanrn9268]

There has to be DNA.

[@mikuisdiva39]

"oh god someone just got stabbed, please send help" 911 operators: ok calm down I'm just drinking my cocoa right now wait

[@justaregulardude895]

Keith's mother said in 1997 that drug trafficking was one of her theories- that her son had been asked to or was involved as a mule. I agree. That would explain the personal nature of the crime, the calculated way the different weapons were used so nobody would hear the gunshots and nothing could be tied back, the taunting act of parking the car at a police station, the fact that Keith was killed first and separately, the fact that marijuana was present but the autopsies found no drugs in their system, and that the point seemed to be to eliminate his bloodline. This doesn’t seem random or the work of a serial killer. This feels like Keith crossed some evil, powerful people who have an honor code and think they are more powerful than police. I think the family's minor financial problems possibly could have led to Keith being introduced to that world through someone he knew from work. Factory work is known for hiring former felons. Since rural Illinois isn't known for mafia or cartels...it wouldn't surprise me if an outlaw biker gang did this.

[@katymaurer388]

That part of Illinois is not unconnected from the mob. I used to live in a town a few miles south of Chicago, along I-57. Part of that history is that Chicago mobsters fled south out of the city, once various law enforcement agencies began really cracking down on organized crime, I think after the 60s? Maybe the 70s? I-57, and other state highways like Rt 50 and Rt 1, were and are very important routes to get from Chicago down to Kentucky. Based on when this happened, I don't think it's inconceivable that the town of Ina still hosted a few former mobsters, or at least, their operations still passed through the town.

[@randomtinypotatocried]

I was thinking of it possible being drug related especially since they were dealing with financial issues

[@SILSAL67]

This seems drug related.

[@newyardleysinclair9960]

Everyone always jumps to drugs/cartels/mob. It's almost never the case. It's such a dumb theory someone suggests in every mystery. Drug deal gone bad.

[@dre32pitt]

That's a solid theory.. Although I wouldn't count out the cartel..

[@JM06261996]

Robert Wone’s case is no mystery. There’s just no justice.

[@michaelgeorge4643]

Yup, they could probably easily charge and convict them just on the circumstantial evidence alone. The reason they refuse to, is because there's a small chance that they (the three men) would actually win the court case, and that would affect the win % of some district attorney, so they don't touch the case. Sad.

[@12FU]

@@michaelgeorge4643 true. Then they’ll counter sue and call it discrimination. Those evil and disgusting creeps got away with murder

[@travistreadway3180]

@@michaelgeorge4643 so they saved their KDA for no justice lmao that’s fucked

[@michaelgeorge4780]

@@12FU replying from my other account here, but they couldn't sue for discrimination for criminal charges unless they got charges dropped and then were able to prove that there was active discrimination in the process of bringing forward the charges, which would be impossible unless there was recorded incidences of the prosecutors and/or DA deliberately stating or acting to discriminate against them, which would also need to be based on religious belief, ethnicity, or sexuality. That's basically impossible

[@Tampafan33]

@@michaelgeorge4780 id argue theyre discriminating not charging these fucktards but no one could absolutely prove that.

[@lazyassdre]

i'm sick of hearing police operators tell people to "calm down" as if that's going to help the person to stop freaking out.

[@jasonrublaitus7144]

I mean I get it, but if the person wants help they need to be able to convey important details to the dispatcher. In callers’ defense I don’t think that they realize just how inaudible they are being, especially when speaking through tears. Thankfully we’ve gotten to a point where the police know where the call is coming from right away and are dispatched immediately.

[@limbeboy7]

Okay, scream then!

[@HellAintHalfFull]

The Dardeen Family massacre is sickening. Interesting how the only two suspects: Tommy Lynn Sells and Angel Maturino Resendiz, led very similar lives. Hopping trains from town to town just to kill people. Both killed with whatever they could find. Luckily, both men ended up in the same exact place - the Huntsville Unit in Texas, where they were both executed.

[@natk4017]

Family annihilation often happens by family members, exes, or family friends. It's pretty unlikely a serial/spree k!ller would perform an act like this.

[@blanket4763]

@@natk4017 uncommon yes, but it still has happened before

[@michaelgeorge4643]

He definitely did not do it and is just saying he did because he's an idiot that wants attention. Serial killers claim famous killings all the time, it happens constantly, and his story changed way too drastically and makes zero sense.

[@Michelle-ng9db]

Tommy Lynn Sells was in the area, and this fits his non-M.O, M.O

[@heavymetalredneck7973]

The Dardeens lived within 100yrds of railroad tracks, thats where the "railroad killer" theory's come from. Their place was within 100yrds of RR tracks, it was their trailer, route 37 and then RR tracks. I drive past their old place almost every day, there is a Dollar general store fairly close to where the crime took place. The killer was probably local and may still be alive and living amongst us.

[@catscratchqueen]

the first one. she kept calling him ma'am 😭 you can hear him paused and stutter the first time she does it

[@xenophagia]

🤣

[@honeycrispsnail4032]

i’d be fuckin pisseddd tbh 😭😭 like imagine trying to explain a murder and you’re just constantly getting blasted w the opposite gender’s terms like i’d be so distracted too 💀

[@tryhardfinessedyou]

Ma'am is he cautious?

[@jasonbernard9012]

Man the way you’re so respectful before proposing a theory that in no way can be viewed as offensive is just so commendable (referring to the Dardeen case here). Huge props for that, as well as overall sound research and great presenting!

[@clashwithwords]

the dardeen family case.. just horrible. those poor babies.

[@sandrafaith]

Robert Wone seemed like such a great guy. My heart breaks for his widow. The only way this is gonna be solved is if one of the three breaks their silence. Since the trio have split / gone their separate ways (I believe Dylan is now off on his own, married to another person), who knows....

[@IronPsyde]

Ummm… he was CHEATING on his wife with three dudes, at least one of them ended up killing him

[@sandrafaith]

@@IronPsyde There's no proof that he was cheating on anyone... feels more like one of them decided to immobilize him and do some pretty awful things to him against his will.

[@B727X]

It's going no where his pic is in black and white

[@B727X]

@@sandrafaith both

[@IronPsyde]

@@sandrafaith okay than, so why was he there partying with three gay dudes who were in a relationship? Oh, maybe they were just his friends… But he ended up sleeping over there too? Come on, no way.

[@hatuletoh]

The local panic caused by the Dardeen case reminds me of some of my earliest memories as a kid. My parents and I were living in a very quiet, very safe SoCal town called Mission Viejo when Richard Ramirez, the "Nightstalker" was running loose, raping and killing people. His last two vicitms were a young couple who actually lived in Mission Viejo, and the young man was a cousin of one of our neighbors. Just a few days before the attack, my family and I, along with most every other family on the street, had been at a bbq with that couple at their cousin's house on our street. It was terrifying to turn on the news to find out the dude who had been playing catch with me last Sunday was now clinging to life after being shot in the head. The level of fear in the community generally, and among the tight-knit group of neighbors on our street specifically, had already been high, but when the news came that Ramirez's latest victims were people we knew, my quiet street in the quiet town lost its collective goddamn mind. The men, including my father, set up a schedule for night time watches, and they walked the neighborhood all night in shifts with guns; the mothers went around to each other's houses checking the locks on all the windows and doors, and generally making sure everyone's houses were secure. We kids were simply not allowed outside except to go straight to and from school, which sucked for 80s kids accustomed to running around and playing without constant adult supervision even well after dark. And I remember one neighbor who lived a few doors down, an older widower, who sat out every night until they caught Ramirez on his porch with a shotgun and a bottle of Jack Daniels. The wonder is that none of the jacked up, heavily armed and poorly trained neighborhood vigilantes accidentally shot each other. Things got a little better a week or two after the Ramirez's final attack on the people we knew when the police were able to identify him from a fingerprint left in a car he'd stolen--up to that point, no one knew who the killer was, which was really the scariest part of the situation--and it was only another few days before he was caught by a bunch very, very pissed off of people in East LA. They recognized him from his photo in the newspaper and then damn near beat him to death. When the police showed up they had to save Ramirez from the angry mob, who were whaling on him with bats, tire irons, kitchen pans, and anything else they had handy--it was glorious. So the lockdown and extreme paranoia didn't last too long, and it probably couldnt have been sustained anyway, but regardless, for a couple of weeks, people who lived in what seemed like one of the safest places anyone could imagine were afraid to go to sleep in their own homes. And that's a rare and transformative kind of fear, which most Americans, thankfully, will never experience.

[@Kayla-Butterfly]

Wow thank you so much for sharing ❤ it's really scary being that close to something like that doesn't it? Please tell me your friend didn't pass away and he got better? I'd love to believe he got better. 🙏❤️

[@displayer6023]

Three people with the exact same recollection of an event is a major red flag that suggests they rehearsed a story beforehand

[@wanderinghistorian]

Pure speculation: I think Robert had something going on with one or more of those guys. He said he needed to stay the night there, "because he didn't want to come home from work late and wake up his wife." What? What kind of excuse is that? Men come home from work late all the time - many of our wives don't even wake up and those that do are glad to at least see us before going back to bed. This excuse makes no sense to me - no one does that. He had a purpose for going there that night.

[@lainiwakura1776]

You've never commuted to work in a city and then had to stay late to finish your work for the day, have you?

[@bbekah]

I thought that was strange too. Why not just sleep on the couch so you don't wake her?

[@bryanstasko]

Yea im gonna spend the night at these 3 gay guys house so I don't wake you up. Surely that wouldn't be a red flag to his wife? He was very likely a closeted man looking for fun imo.

[@ethanbailey7426]

Also he got to their house at like 10:30? Idk how long his commute was but that doesn’t seem very late

[@Mad.Dog.Murdoch]

I also read that where he lived was not that far away from his office - like a 30 to 40min commute via train (even less by car). It doesn't add up to me either, but I feel like there's just so much information lacking I am genuinely not sure if Wone willingly went to their place for some "down low" fun and had to hide his sexuality or he legitimately just needed to crash at a friend's place and was taken advantage of. Such a baffling case either way.

[@jon.callaghan4165]

The calm smooth voice along with the quiet background music makes this a million times creepier

[@GuyNamedSean]

Seriously. The narration is absolutely a strength.

[@doncarleone973]

I know right. This is a really good channel and keeps getting better!

[@benjaminmatheny6683]

Looking up Sells, it does look likely that it was him. He liked to attack homes with a mother with young children as well as committed several murders with a weapon he found on the scene, and several of those with blunt objects. Many of his killings were not motivated by anything other than the pleasure of the murder. Personally, I think sells ambushed Keith outside the home, possibly while out shopping or after work. He shot and killed him, then took his keys to use to gain entry to the home. Which is why their is no forced entry, as well as why Sells could take his time. There is no reason their would need to be more than one person to do it, and given how hard Sells tries to justify his actions, if there was a seconds person Sells would have made it out to be their fault.

[@smears6039]

Wow, thank you for making this comment! Unfortunately this video had to leave a ton of info out about the murders (for obvious reasons), and after doing my own digging then finding your comment, I think your theory ties up a lot of the lose ends that I had left! You seem well researched 👍🏼

[@WithDiameter]

Maybe you’re right. But I always go back-and-forth on that guy.

[@cuccicucci4480]

Only thing Sells wasn't from that area. Why would he drive Keith's car and park it at a Police Station? Why risk getting caught? He would've left the way he came or left the car somewhere else. He didn't know where the streets were. Also the car would've had DNA or fingerprints to solve it by now. I think the Church angle might be more of an angle. The real reason they were moving. The guy never entered the car. imo

[@jononpaper]

I hate him so much. Hopefully his cellmates do their job and teach him a lesson.

[@musicreality9543]

But why cut his genitalia?

[@Operngeist1]

For the first case, I actually find it suspicious that their stories match up perfectly. If they hadn't agreed on one story to tell to the police, it would make more sense if they had differed in some small details, because no eyewitness can recall an event perfectly, and the human mind starts altering memories almost as soon as they are made. So for them to not only not change their story as time passes but also keep details consistent between them is suspicious as hell. I know it sounds counter-intuitive but the human mind is not a camera and memories aren't static, we continuously re-write memories when we recall them.

[@dietdrpepper15]

Thats right, they would have different view points, but when it all matches exactly...nah. Sus.

[@DaBoaringDragon]

Not trying to defend anyone, but that’s a poor argument. If their stories didn’t line up, people would find that suspicious. Now if they do line up, it’s also suspicious? That’s just deciding right off the bat who’s guilty, and warping the evidence to fit that conclusion. The others are very suspicious, but saying because their stories lined up they’re guilty or at least suspicious, because of that fact, is improper and wrong.

[@dietdrpepper15]

@@DaBoaringDragon Its a red flag when the same wording is used(don't get me wrong I haven't heard their questioning or interrogation), but when a group are lying, you go over things step by step, over and over, so it sounds fake. These guys probably had HOURS to clean up whatever they did, and practice answering questions that would be asked. It's just too fishy, it reminds me of that woman who 'jumped' while spending the night with a group of women. Just no, everyone covering up. 'If I go down, I'll take you down too.' Hey it could have been an intruder, but that 911 call doesn't land right, his body was washed, out door clean up, arm injuries...eh, but again, if you can't prove it, they ain't guilty.

[@c.j.4180]

It's an otherwise innocuous detail but I always found the fact that Robert had three stab wounds - and the main suspects were three men - a little too coincidental as well.

[@penskepc2374]

​@@HIGHER-POWER the opposite is Occam's razor. The idea of an undetected intruder that randomly injected and stabbed a man that would only be there for one night is far less likley

[@chitownkitty4327]

It's nice to see another video by Cadaber. I discovered this channel while sick and on lockdown and I'd totally binge on it. This guy has a great voice and great channel.

[@geraldthegoose1685]

I've been needing something to feed my disturbing content binge and this just came at the right time

[@russellst.martin4255]

There doesn't have to be sex for a case to be sexually motivated, so I don't know how they could've ruled that out.

[@danadecker4855]

There was some kind of sexual contact. Roberts own fluids were found in his rectum. That doesn't mean it's consensual. Apparently one of the gadgets the men had could...make that happen involuntarily

[@lunar6239]

The case with robert is so weird, cause it really seems like the 3 dudes did it but there's really no hard evidence for or against them. Like there's a ton of fishy shit such as all 4 being recently showered, the missing knife as well as the no blood, but there's nothing actually concrete to support or go against them.

[@duncanthepharaoh]

5 things that independently indicate a 70% likelihood of guilt equals a 99.76% chance of guilt.

[@silentlamb2077]

⁠@@duncanthepharaohbut it’s that .24% that let them go free

[@bunnyluver2176]

​@@duncanthepharaohThat might be in theory, not practice

[@user-cp1co5vl7m]

pretty obvious that the so called "friends" Wone stayed with that night are shady af and guilty for killing that poor man! his family, wife, and friends all have grieved so much over his death; i can only hope justice will be served one day.

[@snoozedmuse]

That first 911 call is so ridiculous and boils my blood they ended up not charged, they definitely had something to do with that man dying, I've seen some deep dives on that case and its just so sad they got away with that ...how are you supposed to say ... allegedly 😓

[@sandrafaith]

I can't even listen to that call. Equally infuriated. The recent limited series about the case is very well done, IMHO.

[@P-P-Panda]

I wonder if they tried to do something to him as he slept, but he suddenly woke up and that’s when the man was attacked. Idk. Just a guess.

[@snoozedmuse]

@@P-P-Panda Hearing the story, that's what I always assumed before the tryst gone wrong theory... It's just too weird and they all acted so strange under the circumstances considering they're suppose to be such great friends...

[@mwal223]

They were charged? You can't be found but guilty without being charged

[@gusfalk]

@@mwal223 what do u mean by that response

[@akeelyaqub2538]

I have a theory about the lady who knocked on the dardeens door. Maybe it wasnt a trap kind of thing but more of a stake out kind of thing. Maybe she would have actually used the phone but took the whole event as an opportunity to "inspect" the prey. Just a thought, but honestly how often do people knock on strangers doors to use the phone and how often do those strangers end up being murdered in such a manner not long after? If that lady had anything to do with it, I believe the premeditation began with her knocking on their door.

[@nm7358]

Your position presumes quite a lot. There were no cell phones in 1987, people in most American small towns in 1980s felt so safe they often wouldn't even lock their doors. Hitchhiking was rampant in that period, too. The possibility of a random person showing up and asking to use a phone because they were stranded or their car had broken down was just part of small-town American life. These were just different attitudes in a different period; many people were indeed that doe-eyed and innocent about stranger danger in the 1980s. Criminals definitely used that tactic to attack at random, but true crime broadcast shows like Unsolved Mysteries that warned of such dangers were just beginning in 1987. In this particular case, the sicko or sickos who committed this horrible crime wouldn't have needed to stake anyone. They just needed to pick a home at random and find an excuse to get inside. For all we know, maybe the door was indeed just left unlocked.

[@akeelyaqub2538]

@@nm7358 you got a good point, like I said its just a theory, but I do believe the house was watched prior. Even if only for a few hours.

[@cattpressman1297]

But I’d assume if she felt safe knocking at their door, only to have no response, she’d probably go to a neighbors house asking the same question. It wouldn’t make sense to me that she would go to the Dardeens’ house specifically to ask for their phone unless she knew them personally, which she clearly didn’t according to how the story goes.

[@hollib3900]

That first case has always made me so angry. They played a part in it. Killed him and washed away the evidence. They’ll get what they deserve.

[@SheLikesLoons]

They probably wont

[@katymaurer388]

This is the first time I've ever heard of the Dardeen case, and I've lived in Illinois for most of my life. I have a theory that it's connected to what was left of the Chicago organized crime. Ina is located on I-57, which is the main interstate to take to get from Chicago to Kentucky. I used to live in a town along I-57 further north, much closer to Chicago. Part of my town's history is that in the 50s and 60s, a lot of Chicago mobsters fled south out of the city as law enforcement agencies began cracking down on organized crime. Houses in my county, in very rural towns, had secret garages built under the houses with the entrances hidden from view so people could come and go in secret. So, based on when the Dardeen case happened, i dont think it's inconceivable that there were still drug runners in southern Illinois making a lot of secret money, and Keith either got roped in or saw something he shouldn't have seen. Plus, if there were still mobsters down there, it explains how they taunted law enforcement by leaving Keith's car in front of a police station, and they knew how to not get caught.

[@silentlamb2077]

Cutting off his gentiles is a message .. “I’ve stripped you of your pride, Because you insulted me of mine” the man could have been involved somehow and decided at some point that he no longer wanted to.. the wife and son might’ve been killed just because they were simply there .. but the deaths have a clear and obvious meaning that’s meant to be conveyed to somebody or someone’s.. for unknown reasons

[@Jake-tw8qr]

just want to point out how good the dispatcher from the first story was. I am so used to these 911 recordings featuring criminally inept dispatchers.

[@AnarchoCatBoyEthan]

weird. i hated that.

[@blanket4763]

@@AnarchoCatBoyEthan I hated it too

[@MrBeetsGaming]

I thought she was kind of terrible honestly... She waited until almost the end of the call to tell him to put pressure on his wounds and on top of that she told him to go downstairs in the first place after he said he didn't know who stabbed him or whether they were in the house still. Also she kept calling him ma'am which was odd

[@Michelle-ng9db]

I disagree. I think she was terrible.

[@ther0ach28]

Repeatedly asked multiple questions at once, interrupted when the caller was giving answers, and kept repeating questions she already asked and knew the questions to. There was even one point where the called said "listen lady, just send help" after she asked "is he breathing?" For the fifth time

[@sourgreendolly7685]

Cadaber!! How you cadabeen? I'm not sorry 😂 Always happy to see you in my sub box fr though

[@BenJamminJamz]

Loving the extra effort you're putting into the intros. Keep it up! Also, there is no WAY those men had nothing to do with Robert's death. Perhaps they didn't commit his murder, but it's clear they took post-crime precautions.

[@mcsexyinc]

Ive been craving another Cadaber video and you delivered -thank you!

[@rmooreg]

Succinylcholine could have been used on Mr.Wone. It is a skeletal/muscular relaxer used in surgery to imobilize any involuntary movement and causes a state of paralysis which sets in after 60 seconds and lasts 5 or 6 minutes, can be prolonged with subsequent doses ( which would account for the multiple injection sites on his body) and which dissipates rapidly and leaves virtually no traceable amount in the body. It does not impair consciousness, nor is it an anesthetic. He would have been awake and conscious throughout the ordeal.

[@Aegonanddanny]

Just what I needed! Thank you, Cadaber :)

[@briandanger8165]

Glad you're back! This video was handled incredibly well!

[@heavymetalredneck7973]

I live just a couple of miles from Ina and this area has never been a "high crime" area, its very rural and peaceful like it's always been, most of the crime happens in Mt Vernon and it's not even very crime ridden, whoever did this to Keith and his family knew him as it was personal, that becomes obvious when you consider that his "member" was cut off and shoved into his mouth, a random killer doesn't do what the savage pos did in this case, i think it's a local man who probably still lives in the area. RIP

[@xenophagia]

I used to live in Mt. Vernon. I still have family there and in Belleville. I miss Southern IL. Take care, bro 🤘. EDIT: You actually kinda look familiar, man. Did you live in or hang out in Mt. Vernon in the early 2000s by any chance? I would have been in middle school then.

[@Kayla-Butterfly]

Finally a good dispatcher and that has compassion! Ive seen so many that have no business being in that profession!

[@jstonehoh]

Id love a 1 hour loop of your opening theme. It really gets me I love. Usually takes me a little bit to actually get your videos started because I keep repeating the first few seconds to hear it

[@brianc8821]

Yes! Me too! I've been trying to find the track ID for forever. Nobody seems to know. If I end up emailing this guy and I get a response, I'll make my way back here and let you know.

[@joshuacampise1449]

Hell yeah cadaber upload, I love to see it. You got great stuff on this channel, keep the hits coming bud 😄

[@MissMeggarz142]

So glad you are back. We missed you so much! Time to sit back and get to learnin'. 😎💜🤗

[@WithDiameter]

I knew exactly what the second case was going to be before you said the name. I really hope that one can be solved one day. one of the most depressing and terrifying cases imo.

[@dylry86]

Thank you for presenting cases I haven’t heard a million times already!

[@isaacd2419]

For the Dardeen family. Could any friends or other family be considered for the case. Considering how paranoid Keith was it seems like he would not let anyone aside from people he knew close to his house or family. Maybe he or his wife had a falling out with someone they knew and that person came back for "revenge". Because as someone else in the comments states, the murders seem very emotionally driven. Either way, ots extremely saddening and may they rest in peace.

[@eucliduschaumeau8813]

The first case is bizarre, but my theory is that the three men injected their guest with empty syringes to give him an embolism, or they used a rare poison like curare, or a more common one like GHB, which standard blood panels don't always cover. Then they put him in a shower or bathtub and exsanguinated him. I've heard of the case before, but the thing that makes it so intensely creepy, is what the hell was the motive?

[@connorperrett9559]

Sexual, probably. They should have used a rape kit on the body.

[@eucliduschaumeau8813]

@@victorleetapia562 That's what I remember hearing as well. There's no doubt that they were "polyamorous", which is a term I heard in another video on the subject. They definitely got away with whatever it was.

[@AmoralTom]

Revenge for pearl harbor

[@GoogleTrendingTopics]

@@AmoralTom An innocent man is dead and you're choosing to be racist? F*ck off, dude.

[@hrr597]

​@@AmoralTom 💀💀

[@blueindigoqueen7077]

Always get super excited when I see u posted a new video! U come out with great content! Please keep these little gems coming 💙💙

[@jerichohill487]

Great video, as always.

[@nicolewoodall4928]

So excited for a new video from you! Keep up the awesome work!!

[@NothingRandom]

NO WAY OH MY GOD!!! YOUR CHANNEL WAS MY FSVORITE AND I HAD FORGOTTEN THE NAME!! You have grown so much since the hand in the trunk!!! i used to love watching your stuff and i’m so pumped i’ve found your channel again!!

[@user-ru3ql6ji4p]

Excellent content as usual!

[@kelleh711]

The 911 operator constantly calling him ma'am was getting on my nerves so bad

[@TheGelasiaBlythe]

Something that occurred to me upon watching this again and reading a little about the Dardeen family: Their killer did have a second weapon on him. He had a knife. He didn't stab anyone. I think this killer knew enough not to stab anyone because brutal stabbings lead to cut hands. Keith might have been quite dead (I'm guessing he was killed and medically emasculated in his car, based on the description of of the inside being "spattered" with blood) when his manhood was removed, but I think that happened in his car. What's strange to me about the car is that his car was found outside a police station, 11 miles from the Dardeen home. Did anyone look into a cop having done this? Presumably, the killer had blood on their person. They then left the victim's car outside of a local police station. What if the person was in a dark uniform? My ex used to wear those dark navy poly pants as an EMT. Those were chosen because they hid EVERYTHING that could get on a person during a call, and always cleaned up just fine. People wouldn't necessarily see any blood on a dark police outfit. If a cop came to the Dardeen home, claiming to need to speak to Keith - Keith, who most likely would have grabbed his keys to lock his door before stepping outside to speak to this uniformed police officer - who then pulled a gun, forced Keith into his own car, and had him drive himself to that wheat field where he was found. The car was then brought to Benton and left there (there's no information, but I'm guessing it was left in an on-street parking spot and not in a parking spot in front of the building). The killer could have been a Benton police officer; or they could have done this late enough at night that no one took notice. Either way, the killer's own vehicle was probably nearby. The killer could have then used their own vehicle to drive back to the Dardeen home to kill the rest of the family. Who would do this? No idea. My guess is that it's related to the "young woman" looking to use the phone. She may have been looking for actual help. Perhaps, whoever she was trying to escape knew she'd gone to the house. Perhaps the killer thought she went there because Keith was known to her, and the killer was jealous enough to kill her presumed lover and his family of witnesses. Perhaps this jealous lover of a "young woman" was a cop. We may never know.

[@isabellabass5346]

I was JUST looking through your videos and hoping you’d upload soon!

[@pook21M]

Happy to see new video!

[@JoshuaaColin]

Amazing video!!! Keep up the good work!! Please post more!!

[@crzywrld1321]

I’d be looking harder at church members and co-workers of the Dardean family. Dennis Rader was a church goer, and got caught because of his use of his church’s computer. So sad, I hope they get justice.

[@Phoebe5448]

Yeah, I'd definitely say it was someone who knew the family. The dad was most likely the prime target, then they just decided to go after the rest of the family.

[@solomonrivers5639]

My brain refuses to believe that Keith Dardeen was only 29 years old. He was younger than me. I become depressed if the internet goes out, I can’t imagine what he felt

[@void_usr]

bro....

[@peachmari]

The second case makes me think the father had info on someone. A water treatment plant would be a good place to dump things one didn't want a connection to. Mr.Dardeen could of easily seen something he shouldn't and that was the reason he was oddly taken from the home, mutilated and killed before the rest of his family. RIP to the Dardeen family.

[@itspozzey]

Absolutely love your videos. I was kinda bummed until I saw u uploaded today

[@jackierocha5096]

The Dardeen case gives off the vibe that it was a crime of passion, like the killer(or killers) felt so hurt or wronged by someone in the Dardeen family that they had the urge to do something so violent as this. If it wasn’t that kind of crime the there would’ve been other murders like this in brutality(cause a crime of passion, once you commit the crime you’re not exactly going to be itching for your next victim, a serial killer on the other hand would be committing more murders of this nature), the reason I would even suggest the idea of a serial killer is due to the brutality and efficiency with how they managed to evade any evidence connecting to them(not to mention the planning it would require to successfully leave the bloodied car at the police station and then dump the fathers body in the woods without anyone suspecting or seeing anything, that’s an experienced killer whose done that before except we got no other case similar enough to make a connection). I do think it was a crime of passion, and perhaps the killer has some ties to law enforcement(because how else are you going to be able to drive a blood soaked car to the police station, get out of the car covered in blood, leave it there, and then walk away covered in blood, all while there being a high chance of someone being in the immediate area that could’ve seen that sequence of events) and thats how they were able to get away with or at the very least was able to cover up any of their tracks(not impossible, golden state killer is probably the best example of serial killer cop using his position to evade suspicion)

[@wafflemypancakesuponthesun875]

I Always look forward to your uploads!

[@dalriadajohannsen]

Cadabers theory in the second story makes the most sense. I wonder if the girl who knocked on their door a few nights before was a practice run.

[@imperialchalice]

Your ability to condense these stories is incredible. Slowly growing infatuated with this channel 😂 also, the way you edit, and your intro 👌

[@penskepc2374]

Sells is a pretty good suspect. The simplicity of wanting the car makes sense, but I think the part hes leaving out though is that he killed keith probably after a car jacking and than perhaps read the address of his ID and figured a woman and child alone would be a nice easy kill and he could even drive up unassumingly in her husbands car.

[@xenophagia]

Whether it's Sells or not, I was thinking of that same scenario.

[@Lucas-bq1ov]

Finally. We need more!

[@hectorlumbagoCringe]

Love your work my friend

[@FEJK82]

The "paralyzing agent"... could it have been a syringe full of air?... Causing an instant cardiac arrest - and thereby rendering the victim helpless?

[@angrybidoof847]

An autopsies would be able to prove the wound were done pre or post-mortem i think?

[@susanyoung1600]

Plus, they would have to be skilled enough with the syringe to get it in a major vein that goes to the heart.

[@rs-mt6kl]

I'm pretty dang sure they can tell if the cause of death is an air embolism.

[@ZombieSazza]

What about GHB, the date rape drug? That’s not normally tested for in toxicology.

[@delta6704]

how the hell do you know that that's a thing😐

[@scifi.ginger4148]

I just recently found your channel and I love it. Its perfect! you do such a great job in every vid :D :D

[@psychoticchemist]

Always love a new Cadaber video 👽

[@kachextrememetal5130]

Thank you for this video, great job 👍🏼 I feel terrible for the family, and just so disgusted and truly sad with the levels, acts of depravity that us "humans" are capable of doing. Lord have Mercy. And R.I.P. to the family 🙏🏼

[@ElSantoLuchador]

I watched the interrogations in the Robert Wong case. At least one of the 3 were lawyers, and they were all much smarter than the cops. If it was a story, these guys were masterful and made the interrogators look stupid. Even in cases where the suspect(s) are innocent witness stories almost always vary in detail. Not with these guys. Watching them makes me wonder if they plotted the perfect murder and got away with it.

[@epic_sans8229]

No not really. The cops just didn’t seem to have handled the case very well to me.

[@timshupe2838]

The legend has returned.

[@ivannichols715]

On the contrary there is a very good explanation as to why none of the men turned on each other in Roberts case: I believe all three of them had attended law school and they probably knew that with none of them turning on each other or even being the slightest bit tempted on account of the cops giving them some sort of immunity or incentive they knew that if all three of them clammed up and didn't say a word they would more than likely walk. And walk they did.

[@molliwilson5639]

Prisoners Dilemma

[@gNOme_5]

From what I heard in this video in regards to the very first case is that no doctor/coroner had ever definitively proven that: A: The victim was injected with any sort of paralytic agent? Or any other drug(s) for that matter? And... B: That the "puncture wounds" were proven to be exactly that: puncture wounds that were positively made by a hypodermic needle. Also, that there was a strong certainty that those "needle punctures" were made just prior to his death!

[@yup_pea]

Awesome video 👍

[@angelwings1979]

In the first case, Robert could have been given a dose of insulin which could have easily put him into a coma but just as easily a small amount more could of killed him. There was a case many years ago of a man that was using insulin to put his wife into a coma so he could then rape her. That could of been what the killer or killers were trying to do to Robert. The thing about insulin is unless you’re checking the blood in a particular way or in a certain amount of time it will never show up on a toxicology report since it’s naturally found in the body.

[@angelmorningstarr9504]

"What does one get a wife who has everything? A shot of insulin" Claus Von Bullow

[@xenophagia]

​@@angelmorningstarr9504 that doesn't make sense... I think you left some words out or used some wrong words... Idk

[@angelmorningstarr9504]

@xenophagia it was Claus Von Bullow's macabre sense of humor which made him ask that question of his defense team in the trial of his wife's murder by insulin trial.

[@angelmorningstarr9504]

@@xenophagia ^^^

[@noodles2459]

Always a good day when you upload

[@jeniphirtaylor-mcintire81]

I think Tommy Lynn Sells probably did kill the Dardeen family, but he has embellished his story (as he does). The first case left me with many questions about the trio of suspects. Were they drug involved? What was the house like? Have they been arrested for other crimes? Sad but true, the type of people they are generally is important to consider.

[@moxxibekk]

I've read up on the first case before, and one important fact is that some/all of them were involved in politics (lawyers I think) which I think is a big reason the case hasn't gone anywhere.

[@sailorsaturn8815]

I remember reading about the Dardeen case, absolutely horrifying.. RIP 💔

[@tickledtoffee]

These crimes seem so senseless, it's tragic. RIP Robert and the Dardeen family

[@transcreatureofchaos]

The first case frustrated me so hard, especially when the three men were found not guilty

[@calebpabalis7553]

The 911 dispatcher in the first story did a great job! Thats how they should conduct themselves. There are too many 911 dispatchers that arent so good at their job.

[@MikeyMobes]

good shit bro

[@amandajones8564]

Love You CADABER💜

[@mpad4497]

If you are going to play a full or near full dispatch phone call please PLEASE put subtitles.

[@sclumptuous]

there were subtitles. they were horrendous, though, whoever transcribed this video shouldn't be asked to do it ever again, the closed captions were FULL of mistakes. i feel sorry for deaf and hard of hearing people when i see subtitles so poorly done.

[@lara3540]

“What’s wrong ma’am?” Oof I cringed more at that then I should have considering we are talking about a serious crime here and the thing that gives me the worst shudder is a panicing guy being mistaken for a woman.

[@widgie161]

Why?

[@sourgreendolly7685]

@@widgie161 obviously not OP but I'd presume because sometimes our brains can get stuck on less important things to keep ourselves more emotionally distant from the more important things. just one possibility of course

[@stee8345]

I mean....what were they supposed to think? Were they supposed to stop in the middle of a frantic 911 call to inquire as to their correct gender before proceeding???

[@Weeb_Destroyer]

@@stee8345 they could simply not say ma’am sir and just address the situation.

[@lara3540]

@@stee8345 I’m not saying the operator took the wrong approach, I simply wanted to share that human brains sure are fascinating because I can very easily cringe at “wrong” social behavior but my brain is so desensitized towards disturbing content that I view it from a very objective lense instead of an emotional one, which is pretty common in the true crime community.

[@zisaletter4602]

oh that guy in texas definitely didn't kill that family hes just trying to say he did for clout bc that's what these people do i think your multiple perps theory is pretty solid. maybe someday we will know :(

[@Deseosippin]

been binging ur videos since i found em keep up the good work i’ve been listening to rignbot blameitonjorge disturban lazy masquarde yet you cover stories i still haven’t heard

[@summerlynn2639]

I almost teared up listening to the second case, I can't imagine what that poor couple went through.... and those poor babies

[@leekspinner]

Heartbreaking injustice in both of these cases.

[@cherylhunsaker1945]

Where have you been Cadaber? We missed you!

[@penskepc2374]

The first one is weird, I always thought maybe one of them was involved and the others legitimately didnt know what happened. I think it's pretty obvious one of or all three of the bathrobe bandits were going to be arrested, but the break in created potential alternative suspects and ruined their case.

[@DanteHellDrive]

Most of the ytbers making such content feel washed up, you're not. Keep it up!

[@lobbywasabi8152]

Damn you for being a genius Cadaber

[@JK-gm6kk]

The first one. Everytime I see it covered, I get more drustrated than I had the previous time. They all know what went down there that night, and it is fucked that basically nothing can be done

[@BelowthePlains]

Thank you for doing original work.. i love these "dark mysteries" genre of channels, but it all too often seems like they all just rip each other off endlessly and recycle the same old stories, over and over again.. ive actually heard of both of these cases before, but i cant think of any other youtuber that covered them. great work, great editing, great narration, great video.

[@brianc8821]

I really love this guy's content. Anyone have a link to the intro track?

[@vaszgul736]

He might have been suffocated to unconsciousness before being stabbed, or even was dead when the stabs were made, as dead bodies don't bleed the way living ones do. There's so many possibilities for how the first case could have gone down, it is indeed frustrating to try to come to a solid conclusion.

[@Lydian7lc]

They said he died from the stab wounds though. I was thinking that they suffocated him during some sexual shit and they thought he died, but was just unconscious and then stabbed him to cover their involvement and make it look like an intruder. People have been mistaken for being dead while they were only unconscious thousands of times...so much so that people were buried with Bells attached to strings in case they woke up after they've been buried...though doesn't seem too hard to check a pulse and if air is coming out or in from someone's nostrils 🤷

[@susanyoung1600]

There would have been petechial hemorrhaging in the eyes and bruising around the lips.

[@SheLikesLoons]

​@@Lydian7lcand that's where we get the term dead ringer