Divinity: Original Sin 2's Brilliant Take On Player Choice - Reboot Episode 15

After diving deep into Larian Studios' new RPG, Mike and Jake recount the glory days of CRPGs, and how Divinity: Original SIn 2 continues that lineage.
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[@gamespot]

What is your favorite CRPG?

[@mdo]

As of yesterday it's Divinity: Original Sin 2

[@MetalGamer666]

I'm downloading Original Sin 2 as we speak. But my favourite has always been BG1.

[@roman78x]

CRPG is autistic nonsense. There is no such thing.

[@Stalkingwolf]

Dungeon Master and Chaos strikes back. Then Fate - Gates of Dawn. Modern: Witrcher 3 Dragon Age 1,3 Divinity Origin Sin 2

[@dandanovich7967]

Planescape: Torment & Neverwinter Nights 2 (+ MotB)

[@michaelsteffensen6844]

So far, almost all my fights in D:OS2 have resulted in everyone, including my party, on fire.

[@joshuaford6700]

Invest in hydrophist. And just summon rain at the beging of every battle just make sure no one is using electrical.

[@mesozoicera87]

@Magnus Sura BLOOD RAIN

[@umbium]

Also all my choices ended with a fight

[@miraj6272]

What the fuck. Why is this Gamespot video THIS good? Good job there mate on explaining RPG's and DOS:2 Brilliance ;)

[@mikemahardy8652]

Miraj thanks for watching!

[@jacobdekk]

Thanks for watching! We put a lot of work into this episode (and this show) if you enjoyed it, and wanna see more videos like this, check out our older episodes of Reboot. Some we are very proud. :)

[@ffxiisucks]

I'm sorry, i'm a fallout 4 player. What is player choice?

[@R3in_Ch]

guns and shoot

[@LimeyLassen]

Kill people for no reason, or don't

[@conradkellog926]

Generic Gmail Account you can use gun or other gun

[@Scottyy788]

There's another settlement that needs our help ill mark it on your map.

[@Kloqdq]

Honestly after getting this game I cannot help but love it. It is such a amazing experience that is completely unlike anything I have played in recent years. I cannot help but love it.

[@placerdemaio]

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[@mahoobarc1439]

It's a genuine masterpiece.

[@khalifax5405]

We need more games like Divinity.

[@danroemer2552]

"So of course, I put a bucket on my head, problem solved." This is kino role-playing. Great video as always as well!

[@August__888]

That was one of the best gaming videos/reviews I've ever watched! Thank you for the valuable info! Keep it up!!

[@LuLzezRoflcopter]

go check out noclip

[@raidermaxx2324]

Gary Williams good point

[@jacobdekk]

Thank you that means a lot to us! You should check out our other episodes of Reboot! You might find more you like!

[@August__888]

thanks everyone for the recommendations. I surely will! :)

[@TheLonewolf114]

I ended up murdering a necromancer who was offering me the power I sought, even though the flow of the story told me that I should accept, all but for a moral reason. I now have to explore the world even further because my characters principles declined my progress. I love that DOS2 offers you this choice. (To be honest I didn't know I would end up fighting the guy just because I turned down his offer, but you know... roll with it, I'm not loading that save!)

[@MrFour4th]

man... Gamespot is obsess with Divinity... me too

[@Ironclad6661]

I am about 50 hours into it and level 16. This game is the best tabletop-style RPG game I've ever played since Baldurs Gate. The combat is as close to a real D&D game as you can get. The combat encounters, puzzles, and dungeons are like real RPG's. The advantages you get using terrain, obstacles, height, distance are so important in this game that you'll lose without careful consideration. This game is chess whereas all the rest are checkers. I always thought the D&D gold box games of the late 80s and early 90s were some of the most strategic of the turn-based games until I met this game. This game will be for me one with crazy amounts of replayability. I am nearing the last act and I know that the minute I finish this game I will be starting over to play it again with a different main character. I can't recommend it enough.

[@revanruler6404]

Greg Michaels agreed this is one of the best games ever. I also love that they don't punish you for being creative, they give you tools and you can solve a problem/complete a quest in many different ways considering that I always loved problem solving and things that force me to think outside the box or use real logic (and not the dreaded video game logic which is barely present in Dos2) this game is perfect for me, a True masterpiece

[@memorandom7484]

Bethesda and Bioware's heads should be made to sit down and play this game so they can see, and maybe remember how to make a good RPG.

[@chrisdodd4014]

BioWare is no more EA dissolved the studio. Bethesda they'll just release another version of Skyrim. Why make a new game if you can just rerelease the same game for the 9th time in 6 years?

[@darkeningkai]

The original creators of Bioware (people behind baldurs gate and dragonage orgins) left the company because they didn't approve of EA's practices. You can google one of the guy's blog post about it, they basically left after crafting Dragonage awakening then EA told them they had one year to make Dragonage2 and they noped out. The people behind Bioware now are completely new people. I get the feeling that Bioware will no longer make roleplaying games since it's not the same company anymore

[@Rainbowhawk1993]

Chris Dodd That was Montreal. Edmonton, Mass Effect 1-3, is creating Anthem.

[@NatrajChaturvedi]

I agree Todd Howard the guy who directed fallout4 especially needs this

[@bukquang]

But good rpgs dont sell as much...😟

[@walktxrn]

Reboot needs its own channel. I almost always miss it in the cacophony of GameSpots other videos

[@jacobdekk]

Yeah Mike and I both feel it can be easy to miss, which bums us out. It posts every Sunday @11am PDT. Mike and I will also Tweet about it every Sunday if that helps too.

[@Drstrange3000]

It reminds me of the point. These both are my favorite segments from GameSpot!

[@GideonCyn]

And its competitor pillars of eternity 2 is right around the corner! its a great time to be a fan of this genre.

[@Drstrange3000]

deity 93 I know! I just got into it last year, starting with Pillars of Eternity. I wish I knew sooner about this genre. I mostly started with JRPGs and played some western RPGs, but they never gave the absolute freedom and dynamism of DoS 2.

[@ivorysamoan]

Bloody good video Mike: one of the best to come out of GS for a while, keep it up!!

[@mikemahardy8652]

Thanks for watching!

[@joelperera242]

What a great video. Well put together thoughts and narrative. Thanks for that :)

[@wolfmanjacksaid]

FINALLY, a game that does justice to the efforts of BG where so many others have come up short. I'm looking at you, Neverwinter Nights and Dragon Age! Pillars / Tyranny and Tides were very good attempts.

[@Doomsterlobster]

Well, NWN2 Mask of the Betrayer was vastly superior to Baldur's Gate, and the original NWN offered the only true D&D experience to date with its online community of thousands, and dozens of dedicated RPG servers. I grant that DOS2 design philosophy is closer to BG than MotB was, but for a tight, story-driven RPG that challenged the likes of Planescape and VTM: Bloodlines, you can't do much better than MotB.

[@stivelars8985]

Strong content, excellent delivery. IGN should make more videos like these

[@therupoe]

I like this type of content! More please

[@dhruvang5369]

I loved this video. Gonna start watching all the other Reboot videos. Subscribed.

[@mikemahardy8652]

Dhruv Ang thanks for watching! Let us know what other episodes you (hopefully) end up liking!

[@trentcarpenter6541]

I really enjoy watching a video like this because they are into the game and love it as much as me.

[@mikemahardy8652]

Trent Carpenter thanks for watching!

[@jacobdekk]

Thanks! You should check out our older episodes of this show (Reboot). You might find something else you like :)

[@rmt3589]

This sounds like the same kind of thing I'm trying to do with my game. I'll need to get my hands on it.

[@pb602]

I just left Fort Joy after 30 hrs and I'm still addicted to this game.

[@luisfernandez4534]

Took me in total of 100+ to finish the game. Looking to play another play through as a custom made character since my last one was the red prince

[@jancz357]

I just ragequitted yesterday after my third try at the ship battle (is it affected by how long you stay on the island?)

[@luisfernandez4534]

i dont believe so

[@pentagram4745]

bloodygentleman keep the demon elf (forgot her name) alive. Respec to summoner for incarnate champ to tank while on fire. Get two battle stomp with shield to constantly knock down enemies. Only one of your char+mentioned npc needs to survive.

[@direnova6284]

I don't remember another game that has been called a masterpiece as much as this one has . It usually takes years before people start calling a game that, usually after they've become cult classics. This game is a rare thing , an instant classic.

[@itwasmewasntit2448]

The first Original Sin is epic too,I highly recommend it. (The story is just spot on,and you can do almost everything that you can do in 2)

[@azrielbahadoor7424]

This video was very well done and a very accurate, educational analysis. Reminds me of 'sequelitis' by Egoraptor. Extra Credits is another great channel if these types of videos are your thing.

[@mikemahardy8652]

Azriel Bahadoor both are great suggestions, and I'm flattered Reboot reminds you of them!

[@richardxs1]

Only started playing this game in Jan.. It is an absolute masterpiece in my opinion. A great game that allows you to think and really be creative on how you complete the game.. I love how the game encourages you to sometimes use every advantage you can to overcome tougher battles like teleportation, blocking pathways ect, making it rain and then shocking the puddle. Never played Pillars of eternity, how does it compare?

[@khalel610]

Hopefully EA, activision, Ubisoft or Square will never get this game. Ever.

[@Dimitrisaurus]

What an amazing video. A rare gem in the reeking polluted waters of Gamespot.

[@daviddorsey6460]

Sim games are better representations of roleplaying and meaningful choices than most W or J RPGs.

[@tuckster27]

Games like Rimworld exemplify roleplaying to me.

[@bivouac1858]

Roleplaying games are not really about "roleplaying", its about min maximg numbers and grind.

[@randomguy6679]

@@bivouac1858 i wouldnt say original sin 2 is like that though

[@Nictator42]

If I remember right, BioWare was originally founded not to make video games, but medical software. They were basically a bioinformatics company. But they got bored and wanted to make a video game, but most of their gaming experience was with pen and paper RPGs, not computer games, so they basically just ended up making up the rules as they went along and somehow managed to craft one of the world's most beloved CRPG. Out of _boredom_

[@O1OO1O1]

Holy shit, this video is by Gamespot. Actually quality content from a mainstream channel. Who'd have thought? Bravo.

[@shaharavigdori8641]

this is the best show on this channel and way better than anything ign are putting up there. keep it up,guys :-)

[@AshkPunk]

I started playing the first one and I gotta say, I was amazed on how deep the game is. Some guy told me that use mace instead of sword when fighting the undead. I had no freaking idea, Im used to the games that it doesnt matter what you use, as long as it does dmg.

[@NatrajChaturvedi]

Good video... You make the game look N sound amazing...

[@williammo8660]

The first one was outstanding as well.Won PC game of the year

[@Alex-tf3ps]

I'm definitely getting this.

[@user-qd9rg3wy2n]

"Glory is mine" puts on chameleon cloak and runs away

[@Dragon_Lair]

Latían is doing Baldurs Gate 3. Excitement is throught the roof for that one

[@anthillca3665]

that was deep

[@kyb7795]

wooow gone try it

[@brixferera8938]

great insightful review just like always. thanks.

[@jaimegarcia5773]

This game is a true masterpiece. Like, it's amazing because of all the possibilities

[@4ksandknives]

This gave me "All your history are belong to us" vibes :)

[@markdavenportjr5129]

wow what a flashback :D

[@LimeyLassen]

So you're saying that you *accidentally* roleplayed as Papyrus the skellington?

[@setitfree78]

Great video. Truly informative and easy to understand. I do like the references to the baldurs gate, witcher 3 and MEA My only worry will be, do. you think divinity 2 is maybe a bit too slow for this newer generation of pc players?

[@mikemahardy8652]

setitfree78 we'll feature this question on next week's Q&A episode!

[@setitfree78]

Awesome Mike! Keep killing it man!

[@michael305schn]

Will this have good dlc and replay. How is replay value

[@Howling_Moon]

Very nice video. I like the author as my barrel build fane

[@irobi2913]

Surprised there wasn't a neverwinter nights reference also.

[@ironmaidenmetalgod]

I need this

[@modponsan1618]

Not gonna lie, your video made this game look amazing.

[@R3in_Ch]

even the worst youtuber reviewing this game horribly, the game still great. better than its predecessor

[@mahoobarc1439]

It's not the video - the game is a masterpiece. I mean LITERALLY.

[@Romsneglen69]

It started before 1995 my friend ... Bards Tale is for instance from 1985.

[@FROSTB4NE]

I really want to get into this but I hate learning so much different skills and working out what’s the best abilities and compositions, I’d love to just enjoy it without thinking too much into it.

[@CoulierCuts]

MrNangle Well you're just a fucking idiot then. Go play Skyrim or something for your simpler mind.

[@mikemahardy8652]

I hear you - games like this can definitely be super inaccessible. I would still recommend giving it a try. It does a great job of letting you experiment without making you feel overwhelmed, and you can learn at your own pace the whole way through.

[@FROSTB4NE]

Don’t feed the trolls 😂

[@vicarius27]

One important thing I learned playing rpg games is that there is no wrong or right, just roleplay what you want, yes some decision would make thing for you harder but they can produce awesome results too. DOS2 is a very flexible game for me. Just think how you enjoy playing the game and do it, don't try to make the best or optimized character.

[@FROSTB4NE]

Yaroslav Gonulenko Thank you for that reply , I think in a lot of games I play I spend hours researching how to play it the most optimal way I loose sight of what actually matters, the game itself , I guess games are meant to be fun and sometimes I just feel overwhelmed by it all, I think I’m going to purchase it after your comment and just enjoy it for what it is, thank you ☺️

[@LordTactusMe]

Yeah, I played Pyromancer and let Sebille kill that lizard. Aaand was running 6 more hours with basic spells cause he was selling Pyromancy tomes. Then I went to local gang boss in order to complete one quest, killed him in the process and that prevented me from progressing in another quest. Amazing. Also one fight can take from 30 minutes to 1 hour of your time, so you don’t want to save/load to often

[@revanruler6404]

Cinnamon Coffin I can't tell if you're prasing it for choice or whining about diffficulty

[@Circaman8]

Basically your character evolves over the game just like in real life people change with time and experiences.

[@RayRay-pw8we]

@Reboot Question: Ultima Underworld was one of the most important RPGs and till this day one of the best in the way it offered the player freedom to create their own narrative like an RPG should. I am curios why you did not mention Ultima at the beginning of this video. I see many people forget it.

[@mikemahardy8652]

Ray Ray thanks for the question! We'll definitely mention this next

[@krzysztofce6141]

I spare Queen Justinia. But during the previous fight, some deathfog crates are crushed. So after looting the location, I found her body. She must go into deathfog and died from her own weapon. Isn't it ironic? I let it go

[@bitheroesaustralia4289]

Wow I need a Good PC to play this!

[@RandoFromMars]

YOU O'EN THE CHEST!

[@Eliphas_]

I kissed Sebille. It made me feel good ^^

[@ThePianoKing64]

You monster! How could you kill bae.

[@qurfy1]

I approve of your username

[@Infernio911]

Meh the love interest with Sebille is so cheesy

[@luisfernandez4534]

I kissed Seville, gained her trust and then gave her up the shadow prince as a slave. Later in the story killing the shadow prince and became the father of dragons

[@alasdairkennedy2395]

Nah, Fane is life.

[@TheJuuuuJuuuu]

As much as I love the Original Sin games ... I still miss Divinity's roots a lot. Seriously, the original "Divine Divinity" might probably be my favorite game of all time. I don't really wanna compare these games but there is one major thing that I think made me feel much more comfortable with the original DivDiv than the modern ones: The battle system. I reaaaally really miss the Active Time Battle System which worked perfectly in both Divine Divinity and Beyond Divinity - and also in Divinity 2, even though it was a little different there. Plus, I'm missing the world. Honestly, y'all couldn't believe how much I'd explode by happiness if I could walk through Aleroth, Rivertown and Verdistis again now that they have changed. As far as I know, Original Sin 2 plays shortly after Divine Divnity and I haven't played OS2 much yet but ... well ... considering the places I've been in so far, my hopes are pretty low to ever see those locations and characters again. However, I am still very glad that the "Divinity" series still exists.

[@ykp0799]

Good piece of journalism Mike

[@kuroblack794]

This game is more like a D&D game style?

[@Caldyz]

Dichotomy.?Sometimes I say big words to sound smart too.😨

[@mikemahardy8652]

chris C they just roll off the tongue!

[@MrSilvanous]

Please bring to PS4 and/or Mac so I can play this lovely game.

[@vadallatskilled9445]

Mass Effect 2 suicide mission. Fucking perfectness. Enough said.

[@darrenyoung7574]

Divinity original sin 2 is amazing. Buy It Now!

[@roman78x]

How can you to NOT roleplay in roleplaying game?

[@TrueMomozo]

I gave up Original Sin 2. Why? Because of two things: 1 - terrible inventory UI. My god, it was a nightmare! 2 - that physical and magical armor that makes forces you to specialize your party.

[@magnusanderson6681]

I am a simple man. I see Baldur's Gate, I like the video.

[@WailingSpider]

BALDWIN!

[@TheJetLou]

Xenogears was awesome...

[@thepayne7862]

To the person narrating the video I highly recommended Tyranny where you play the bad guy and you work for the evil Overlord.

[@mikemahardy8652]

I've dabbled, but I'll try to dive in on your recommendation!

[@thepayne7862]

Cool honestly I had to be a little patient with it since it did take a bit for the story to get going.

[@SilverMoon1134]

Everybody is saying this game is good, i'm getting a little too hyped right now!

[@edarioq]

Baldur's Gate!!!

[@Shevchenkocss]

But why a Knight with a staff though ?

[@Synkhan]

You ask why, we ask why not???

[@yoggz]

Its hard to me to wrap my head around this game, I'm just unsure of what is game design, what is random, what details affect the story/game as a whole. I feel like when I play, I'm just playing the dumbest way possible and that I'm missing out on a lot; 20 hours in and I'm still lost as fuck but having fun.

[@NatrajChaturvedi]

Yjorik actually, this game is unfairly getting a rep as an overly complex or even a hard game. I played the previous game DOS1 and in it I finally hit a wall at about 50% through the game and was forced to give up because I could not get past a fight. I had not planned my characters well enough or maybe hadn't leveled them enough (and I was following build guides) This game however, I have just dived in at classic difficulty without reading any guides or build advice and I am having a much easier and more fun time than in DOS1. If you ask me, Larian has streamlined a lot of the needlessly complex stuff and tonned down on what made these types of games a chore. They have made the game overall far more enjoyable and accessible to average gamers.

[@neltymind]

"It [D:OS 2] gives you an orderly world with concrete rules and asks you to be the agent chaos." - Without being to spoilery: The world in D:OS2 is flaling apart when the story begins. Stranges monster appear wherever source is cast and everyone is desperately hoping for another divine to appear to save them all. Sure, the magisters try to counter this with (evil) order, but they're not very successful. "Original Sin is brilliant not because it presents you with choices to make but because it let’s you create those choices yourself.” - This would mean that the game world reacts dynamically to everything you do, which is not the case. When you lose your anti-source collar, for example, you can still approach everyone in the sourcerer ghetto and buy stuff from them. Not even the thug terrorising the camp will try to force (or bribe) you into telling him how you did it. And that’s one of the more obvious examples. You speak about having Sebille and the Red Lizard in your group. They’re mortal enemies and the game mostly ignores that fact while Sebille has not issues with killing people of minor things in other instances. You claim that your character “looks like an undead” with a bucket as a helmet. This does not only raise the question why you don’t use wear a proper helmet, it is also your personal opinion. Although you suggest that NPC react to it, that’s not true. In fact the undead even start with a hood, which looks far less ridiculous than a bucket. “D:OS 2 encourages mistakes” - You apparently only played on explorer mode. In tactician mistakes mean death.

[@Muffinman9]

What a fantastic video. Would love to subscribe to JUST "Reboot" episodes somehow! The GameSpot channel publishes way too many things I'm not interested in.

[@mikemahardy8652]

Thanks for watching! You can watch back through the Reboot playlist if you'd like

[@creatrixtrodler6659]

Dunno why show Witcher 3 when saying choices are just white and black since like Divinity 2,W3 is not just black and white choices but what do i know.

[@MassiveAchievement]

Cuz witcher 3 is black and white.

[@Vookod]

"The future is now"... funny how it releases in 15 days

[@IvanMallia]

But I don't like it when i get ambushed by enemies higher than my level. Sometimes the game doesn't flow nicely. I love the story writing and the graphics though

[@Drstrange3000]

That is part of the game. I was able to escape and teleport far away. You have to adapt to every situation. It isn't really a fair game.

[@IvanMallia]

nah it feels crude and unpolished especially early game when you have limited resources and have to flee most fights.

[@anandananda2277]

Played the first without voice over but never finish it. Blame Kerbal Space Program and their mods.

[@Doomsterlobster]

This makes it seem like Baldur's Gate came out of nowhere, that it's the best RPG of its era, or that RPGs were ever "not played". Yes, I grant that it gave them some mainstream traction, but it's not as if games of the millenial golden age like Morrowind, Gothic, Wizardry 8 or Deus Ex really had anything to do with its success - they were mostly already in development and BG just got there first. Secondly, the early 90s RPG boom (previous Wizardry titles, Betrayal of Krondor, Ultima Underworld and Ultima VII, Lands of Lore, Quest for Glory) was hardly ancient history in 1998. People would still have been playing games launched in 1993 at that time. Yes, in retrospect there was a small lurch in RPGs between 1993 and 1997/1998 specifically, and as you say it coincided with technological advances in other genres, but 5 years is hardly an extinction of a genre. The decline in the late 00s, early 10s was probably worse. Third, it's not like RPGs ever went away. Daggerfall (1996), Might & Magic VI (1998), Jagged Alliance 2 (1999) are some of the best-loved games to this day. I do think it's fair to say there have been three "golden ages" of modern PC RPGs, from late 80s to 1993, from 1998 to about 2004, and from 2013ish to this day. But these are broad generalizations, not attributable to any single game. Even more, most gamers probably also owned a PlayStation (2) at the time or had friends who did, so no one went entirely RPGless. I get that you're comparing your personal experience with Baldur's Gate and how DOS2 resonates with it. But let's not craft a narrative to suggest that Baldur's Gate was the saviour of RPGs and Divinity its sole successor. It was one particularly successful RPG that broke into the mainstream and gave some financial motivation to pursue the genre, but I doubt many of the best RPGs of the turn of the millenium would really have been left unmade without it. Sure, KOTOR and NWN2 would have, and that would have been a damn shame, but TES, DX, Troika etc. would have trudged on. (Even Divine Divinity would probably have been made!)

[@LonelyGamr]

Learn bugthesda...learn

[@bitheroesaustralia4289]

Pliers or this game? Xbox

[@Maxwell-mb7xn]

Well you can't recruit anyone you want. Don't lie to the people Gamespot!

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*Sin

[@locksand45]

So you can do anything in this game? Can you put a bucket on the head of the 27th enemy you encounter thus preventing a series of events that leads to the defeat of a secondary antagonist? I thought not. Game score: 0 out of 10.

[@NatrajChaturvedi]

what game have you ever played that has allowed that? therefore all games ever made scored 0 out of 10? even games that are/were the highlight of their generations like witcher 3 or Portal 2?

[@mikechristiansen9111]

Except for the fact that Divinity: Original Sin 2 seems to often FORGET your character choices. I chose to romance one character, and at a very... specific and important point in the story, it is the other female character that kisses me, says she loves me and you have a moment with her, even though I turned her down for the other. This is but one of the moments where the game really fell short for me. The main reason I find this pretty unforgiveable is the fact that... the game gives you the chance to make a choice, and then you are taken out of the emotions said choice could bring as it simply fucks it up and seemingly forgets what choice you made. Overall, I liked the game, but I really did not like how they handled the end.

[@locksand45]

@natty: trollt

[@williammo8660]

Lol. You put a bucket on your character's head.Lmao

[@GoddessCynthia]

Why don't you wear the hood you start with????

[@dariusmaye]

Cynthia Martin I believe the bucket has more armor.

[@kgoblin5084]

On Baldur's Gate being an anomaly re: being an RPG for the PC platform, and somehow 'revitalizing' the genre on that platform... Oh Please, what a bunch of hyperbole. In addition to Diablo & Fallout, we had Fallout 2 *contemporary* with BG in 1998, along with Return to Krondor, Elder Scrolls: Redguard, Might & Magic 6, Quest for Glory 5, as well as several anthologies of things like the older QfG games and Wizardry. That is *just* in 1998... we widen the selection back to 1996 We get ES: Daggerfall, Dungeon-Crawler classics like Realms of Arkania, Betrayl at Antara. And as can be seen from pretty much every title I just listed, drawing on pen & paper was neither unusual or notable.... the grand old days of the SSI licensed D&D titles was still fairly fresh in everyone's minds. Oh, and BTW... seems BG came out *21st of December 1998*. So you pretty much even lose the claim that it's contemporaries were cashing in on the coat tails of it's success. Baldur's Gate, and pretty much everything else Bioware & Black Isle made was considered pure gold around this time, sure... and JRPGs in console-land were definitely more abundant. But this idea that BG was some grand messiah swooping into save CRPGS is ridiculous. No one thought the genre needed saving at that point. The decline happened right after, which more than likely was due to the shift of the generation of gamers who cut their teeth in the boom NES, SNES, & Genesis gamers entering young adult hood, with the attendant concerns of less money & free time, and the gradual shift away from PC gaming in favor of consoles. As I can personally attest, being in that age demographic.

[@NatrajChaturvedi]

It may not have saved crpgs but its certainly one of the biggest successes of the genre and that is the reason why it comes up in discussions about other crpgs. Also, I don't know the exact numbers but bl1 sold at least twice the no of copies compared to fallout the other notable top down rpg success and bl2 even topped that

[@dadqqader]

Did any of those games got as widely recognition as baldur's gates? All the game you mention have nowhere near as much attention as baldur's gates. You said it yourself how you're fan of the genre. So ofcourse it means you gonna be closely follow the genre and know every RPG along with some tighten-RPG community fellow. In business and general public's view however said otherwise. CRPG are dying since 1993. Ever since ultima underworld. People were looking into and interested more into action and strategy genre on PC. Dungeon keeper, Goldeneye 007, Quake and doom etc were all massive successful. Why are they talking about that instead of Wizardry 5? When you compare to your beloved RPG you mentioned. Almost nothing reach the recognition any of the game i mention. The only WRPG with commercial success and have as much recognition as titles above is baldur's gates. (don't count fallout, now it's being memorable all because fallout 3 which wasn't full RPG) Can you say the same about lands of lore and betrayal at antera? And all title you mention in 1996 weren't ever mentioned anywhere else even now. And i mean it. ANYWHERE else. Nobody talks about it nor care enough to revive it with remastered. Without GOG people may weren't even remember anything. Because when they think CRPG they think baldur's gates and planescape first. Not your realm of arkania. 1997 was truly the year that restart CRPG and make CRPG as genre become popular again thanks to fallout. And soon after the true CRPG era is back in 1998 with baldur's gates and fallout 2, 1999 with planescape and a lot of memorable titles long until 2005 where the genre die along with KOTOR 2. The narrator was corrected and nothing was hyperbolic. You gotta look into other perspective man. Not only in hardcore genre fans view.

[@Doomsterlobster]

Oops, I came to write much the same thing (although I do think it's fair to say RPGs post-93 were not as successful or well-remembered today). Even if there was a slight decline, before they picked up again and transformed 1998-2004 or so, it was only like 5 years. That's nothing in an era where you save up 6 months to buy your game from the store and play it for the next three years non-stop! People were probably just wrapping up Daggerfall if they even got to it yet. Just because there's a lack of titles in 1994-1996 on any modern best-of lists doesn't mean it was experienced as a dry spell. Just random variation, enhanced by attention to other genres that could leverage technological advances better.

[@798Edgaras]

Superb game with bugged quest and you can't recruit everyone just few characters.

[@Synkhan]

Just because you cant figure out the quest, doesnt mean its bugged sweetie. Also, welcome to roleplaying, where you cant have everything your way. Freaking children.

[@Synkhan]

Seeing as youre already name calling (like a child), i will stick with what i said, and yes, its bugged. Show me one great 100+ content rpg with OPEN ended quests that isnt. Making it sound like its the first game out here to have bugs lol. Grow up.

[@798Edgaras]

Synkhan well at least you agree what game is with bugs. And where did I say or even implied that others games are bug free. I was just saying some quest are bugged not a game breaking bugs but still a bug.

[@jackthelad9933]

nice video, but i didn't find this game very accessable at all.... got it refunded.

[@revanruler6404]

Jack TheLad try playing it a bit longer to get a feel for it, we're too used to games that hold your hand so it can take a while to get used to it. I bought it in bêta and had it refunded shortly after, I only recently bought it again and now I love it, the 2 hours you get from steam aren't enough if this is one of your first crpgs. I highly recommend it though it's a masterpiece, and I was never a fan of turn based games before (I tried tyranny but ended up abandonning it later) but this changed my mind completely, I have a hard time stopping the game and I always think about it when i'm not playing it or working.

[@Snusblues]

you cant recruit anyone you want lul

[@danielhammer619]

you cant recruit anyone you want.

[@mexicanhalloween]

Please stop showing footage of ME3, I'm trying to forget.