Can you beat Factorio with 36 NEW science? Part 2

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[@kittyshippercavegirl]

"it may be stupid, but at least it's stupid" is my entire factorio philosophy when I play

[@ntsazazel]

You play factorio in such a wild way and I love it. So many factorio KZbinrs make these insane intricate and perfect solutions to everything, meanwhile you just bandaid fix everything until it’s just good enough to work. Why up production when you can just manually send a train to the stop? Madness, I never in a thousand years would have done that, and yet it WORKS. You have the skill of a seasoned engineer and the work ethic of someone crawling across the finish line of their first rocket, and I mean that wholeheartedly as a compliment.

[@willcaine1208]

"I choose a lazy person to do a hard job. Because a lazy person will find an easy way to do it." - Bill Gates 😂His solutions are ingenious!

[@BloodyMobile]

"New and unimproved!" - honest marketing 5:14 typical driving experience in Factorio

[@cubeofdestiny]

>automates modular armour >uses light armour >dies

[@sigstackfault]

6:11 Good news! FFF-404 improves the blueprint alignment situation

[@linuxguy1199]

It's sigsegfault gtfo

[@rytan4516]

Did you know that putting efficiency 1 modules into mining drills is a cost-effective way to save energy? Resource-for-resource, it's cheaper than building an equivalent amount of solar and accumulators.

[@Septimus_ii]

But then I wouldn't have room to put quality modules in them

[@AtrakKarta]

As someone who loves needlessly complicating rail networks, I really like your diagonal tracks. I prefer triple-lane, braided, bi-directional tracks myself, but diagonal cells are fresh :). And 1-1 trains are best trains. Who cares about 1-2 efficiency? Double the trains = double the fun!

[@angeldude101]

Can you confirm what you mean by "braided" in this context? I can't imagine any way that could apply to rails without creating a monstrous amount of unnecessary deadlocks.

[@2Links]

@@angeldude101 I would assume they mean that the tracks are connected many times (don't remember a word for it in english), presumably in a braid like pattern, allowing trains to switch between them whenever

[@AtrakKarta]

@@2Links Yeah, interwoven also works. Three parallel bi-directional tracks that allow extremely frequent lane changes. A train in any lane can transfer onto any other lane at any point along the track. It actually prevents deadlocks and massively reduces the need for braking, theoretically and up to a point, by allowing a train to path around slower trains (oncoming/off going). The 'theoretical' is because I haven't stress-tested it yet. I designed it in the newest part of my last vanilla base, and it didn't see much traffic before I stopped. I tested it by parking trains in it at random points and the other trains pathed around them just fine. I understand what @angeldude101 is saying, though. If six trains (three from each direction) tried to go through the same point on the tracks at the same moment and it wasn't at an exit, it's possible the trains would deadlock and block that section of track. This should be avoidable by using chain signals up to the previous exit, but testing would be needed to see if this is the case. With the new rail bridges coming out, though, I'd probably just have proper intersections for anywhere that would see that much traffic :).

[@didydrogene3454]

6:12 well I guess wube heard your lamentations. what great timing (check out last fff) edit : FFF #404

[@amoskevitz]

I liked the All Quiet On the Western front joke

[@Plague_Crow]

ah finally, my weekly dose of underrated factorio youtuber content! Also, if you could, would you mind looking into uploading your script into the youtuber captions thingy? I'm not sure how it works exactly but I guess KZbin will for the most part know where to place captions based off your script, and that's very nice for someone hard of hearing like myself.

[@DocJade]

Yeah sorry I tend to adlib my scripts quite a bit, but i do plan on going back through all of my videos soon(ish) to add captions to all of them. Update: Working on them right now, 1/7 videos done, but the long ones are gonna be a doozy. Update: everything (except episodicals!) has subtitles now!

[@Plague_Crow]

@@DocJade thank you Jaden, much love.

[@NickiRusin]

​@@DocJade thank you so much! my grasp of English fails me sometimes in these videos

[@Toys0126]

@@DocJade Suggestion you could render out your voice over track into another audio file and have an AI transcribe it into captions for you.

[@DocJade]

@@Toys0126 good idea, but I already do that :D , but I still have to manually tweak the timings

[@unktheunk1428]

the weirdest thing here is the finding automating stone furnaces gross but not putting copper wire on trains gross

[@kittyshippercavegirl]

docjade and michael hendriks on the same day, it's factorioing time

[@bocian8321]

This is my first time seeing my rail blueprints used in a youtube video and it's all diagonals 💀💀💀 I'm glad it worked out since I never bothered to test them for errors :) Great video btw 👍

[@DocJade]

I've been using this book for a loooooong time, even before I made KZbin videos iirc, thanks for making such a good book!

[@wolfzero7728]

Any chance you could share them with us less skilled train enthusiasts?

[@roadtrain_]

Oh you made those? As someone who quite enjoys doing trains in factorio... I did notice that at several points in the video your signal placement causes deadlocks with trains stopping inside of a junction... A simple rule I make for blueprinting intersections: I don't place any block signals in my junction blueprints, and instead leave the exits completely blank. All of my blueprints are set up to only have an entry signal, so chaining them together creates blocks. It works really neat.

[@bocian8321]

​ @roadtrain_ Deadlocks? That shouldn't be possible, unless you use REALLY long trains, and Doc uses just 2 car ones. The only instances where I could find trains stopping inside junctions like you mentioned while skimming through the video weren't actually inside junctions but at the stations Doc made in the corners of the 4-ways and traffic seems to flow just fine past them as well as when some trains run out of fuel. Please give a timestamp if you think I missed something. I use signals inside to subdivide the junction block further and separate the paths of trains that don't use the same parts of the track so they can go past each other without interference. The way Doc places the 4-ways without any straight sections in between is the only thing I could see causing issues, but that's more throughput than deadlock-related.

[@bocian8321]

@@wolfzero7728 PS: wow, after 2 months youtube finally allowed me to reply to you without instantly deleting it, thank you youtube

[@alexdavidson7498]

It’s incredible that you can’t just change the stations in a train’s schedule without having to redo the wait conditions. Like, most trains have identical schedules other than the stations, so it’s mad you need to redo the whole schedule for every new route.

[@huuua2]

32:00 "Happy New Year!" hmmmm.... intriguing... 💀💀

[@DocJade]

That clip is genuinely from new years day lol

[@kylerhaged3476]

Thanks for that quick refresher, it got me caught up really fast. And was easy to follow.

[@0WookieCookie0]

The chromatic sorting of sciences made my brain release the happy juice, thank you :)

[@IDE_Busmaster]

One thing I like to do for trains after a refuel station is a "empty" station that acts a a train depot that the train goes to after the fueling and then restarts it's schedule. That way if the stop after the refuel is disabled, it will wait at the depot instead of the refuel station, just have one depot station per train if you never want to worry about train lock and you're good!

[@edomeindertsma6669]

It does mean the drive a bit more though.

[@IDE_Busmaster]

@@edomeindertsma6669 yes definitely want to scatter your train depots close to your refuel spots so trains only need to go a bit to the depot, or just up the train count and have a mega hub xD

[@ponivi]

„Maybe finally this time he‘ll set up nuclear reactors“ Celebration screen:

[@sanderbos4243]

The Toki Pona symbols in the bottom-left corner of the transition screens has pushed me to give learning the language a genuine go right now, cause it seems like a lot of fun to master!

[@nathanb011]

I think just about half of the issues during this video could have been mitigated at least partially by building a nuclear reactor

[@saltblood]

I genuinely have no idea why you never did nuclear lmao, it works really well for a base setup like this, and produces power in the quantities you need, its scalable etc

[@Sparkz1607]

a non-sushi way to get all 43 science pack types into one lab would be to use cargo wagons like makeshift big chests

[@mx2000]

I love how this went from free-form spaghetti to ludicrously oversized rail base in a few minutes.

[@nopeimnothere4119]

Is it just me or was there a "Code" hidden in the lower left of each "NO" Cut for the Nuclear reactor?

[@40watt53]

Yeah that's Toki Pona.

[@PeterZaitcev]

17:00: There's an eazy way to make a deadlock-safe generic unloader station even in vanilla so your lab cells would have only 1 input (or 1 per 40 science types). It's cool but have throughput problems since each train needs to carry ALL possible items. The way you do so is by setting filters to the items those are both missing and presented in the parked train, and the train lives the station by inactivity. Technically, you are not restricted by all trains having all items, but then some of them would run in useless loops.

[@pixselious]

Man this video has so many lil jokes, I love it!

[@Sworn973]

A trick I learned on my on run about train getting stuck at fuel or waiting stations. Instead of disabling the station, set the number of trains allowed with a circuit, with mod of train capacity based on the current amount held by the station. Disabling the stations causes trans to go to the next stop, limiting the trains to 0, cause the train to wait at the current station. And to make sure the train don't get stuck, set the schedule like this - 1º Starting at the unloading (wait until train is empty) so they don't keep running around. - 2º Loading station, which will be limited by circuit (train limit), so it only open when it will be able to load a train - 3º Fuel/Waiting station, so it always pass trough the fueling before going to the unloader, which will be in need of trains since it only leave once the train is empty whit this setup, the trains won't go from Unloading to fueling then to unloading again while there is no open station available. They will only leave station 1º when they have a loading station open, and they will have a unloading available for them to arrive.

[@joshrayner7167]

Woo hoo!! Been following the community updates and it's amazing how much work went into this!

[@gazehound]

he's working on his nuclear pronunciation [wipes a single tear from my eye] that's my boy

[@octobi28]

love these vids, make me want to play more factorio cuz you just keep truckin along till it works while knowing and not caring that it aint great unlike other factorio vids!

[@alexk6836]

thanks for catching me up, I forgot what happened in part 1 but thanks to you I totally will not have to rewatch it rn

[@R4d6]

Do you think you could do a playthrough with the Tiberium Mod for Factorio? I think it would be fun to do a Tiberium-Only run. (I do recommend getting the Mining Drone mod for it through, make life so much easier to mine the tiberium fields.)

[@DaxSudo]

18:07 must be a starter base since there is no floor.

[@TheWorldOfSammiches]

1:12:20 "There's another oil patch to the WEST"

[@ikeabob]

I absolutely love your content keep it up!

[@amaryllian7853]

I’m impressed the game still works as well as it does with all this train spaghetti.

[@amaryllian7853]

Mmm spaghetti

[@ARiverSystem]

"Mom, can we have city blocks?" "We have city blocks at home." City blocks at home:

[@acward04]

Love the videos as always

[@Abyss866]

Thanks for the recap, I forgor what happened in the first episode, without the recap I would've been lost. And big thanks for your hard work to edit it down to just a hour and a bit just to give us lesser beings amusement and prove that u are a god of stubbornness and a relentless expanding factorian.

[@aiunit5753]

Man I've been looking forward to seeing this

[@Zodaxa_zdx]

this run looks like a mad mans version of space ex, except without any of the space, and an ex wife who's demanding child support in the form of way way way too much science... I love it

[@elliejohnson2786]

"This mod is a tad broken" >Mentions an issue with vanilla factorio

[@Gutsnipe]

The rail and wall design is like watching an alien intelligence 😨 Completely mesmerizing and I can't look away

[@mamusipipalisajelo5419]

jan ale pi wile sona o lukin 6:02 "toki a sina sona ala sona e toki pona" -> "Hello! Do you know toki pona?" 9:05 "sina pilin pona anu seme mi pilin pona mute a" -> "Are you happy? I'm feeling great!" 19:43 "ilo sike pakala" -> "broken circular machine / destroying circular tool" 39:05 "sina ken toki kepeken toki pona la sina o pana e nimi tawa anpa a" -> "If you can speak (using) toki pona, then put your name below [in the comments]!" 1:04:55 "mi wile moku e pan sike suwi taso mi jo ala e ona ike a" -> "I want to eat a cake, but don't have one, ugh" musi pona a

[@jakubtokarski5531]

What

[@sanderbos4243]

@@jakubtokarski5531 Translations for the Toki Pona text found in the bottom-left corner of the timestamps they linked

[@RezaQin]

@@jakubtokarski5531 i think it's that "language" that Doc learned or something.

[@firemageg6514]

I was wondering!

[@cewla3348]

@@RezaQin conlangs are still langs!

[@Soetnowzen]

I love your videos! You always make me want to create a new Factory! :D This time with 1x1 trains!

[@draycollins6321]

I love thse video please keep making them:)

[@dontdoitdan7965]

This is probably the least serious factorio video I've seen in a long time. I love it.

[@6zwbob]

ore is half as dense as plates(50 stack vs 100) so smelting at ore patches cuts your resource trains in a 3rd (2 ore for every 1 plate train)

[@olmerok01]

Man, the base is beautiful, well done!

[@evilolive7773]

Amazingly done!

[@duhhnai]

awesome video man

[@ZaphielSahaquielSariel]

Absolutely insane! We need more

[@CraftyMCFish]

6:13 "I hate aligning blueprints sometimes" well todays FFF came just in time then

[@QTwoSix]

Despite not having seen the video yet, I can tell that this will be amazing.

[@kittyshippercavegirl]

the science gradient makes my brain smile

[@Parciwal_Gaming]

I can't wait 'till some lunatic counts the bops. I am too lazy to do it so I count on you.

[@couruu]

Look in the top right, there's a timer

[@mixelzpixels]

44:00 Holy crap what a reference. It gave me such a rush of nostalgia, much like the electricity flowing through a set of well-beaten jumpercables. 😂

[@triscuit5962]

The Dwarves approve of this. Rock and Stone!

[@Panondras55]

Love your wall design. I have to try it myself

[@SoylentGamer]

YESSS NEW DOCJADE

[@DavidSchmitt]

12:10 ran into the same problem with refuelling stops on my ribbon world. Can't wait for Factorio 2 to fix this!

[@rubyblack7240]

AN HOUR??? what a treat :D

[@wizardbrandon3544]

i do love your wacky wall designs :3 i saw you manually replacing a belt balancer from blue to red, theres actually that inside the blueprint creator which lets you downgrade to previous belts how do you make a train not cycle between two stations constantly when using stations that turn offline & a fuel stop. for example, my iron drop off is green because it needs more iron, but the iron pick up has no iron, so my trains will just constantly cycle between iron dropoff and refuel until they inevitably run out of fuel

[@IExistSometimes]

Good video, surprisingly brutal mod with the high resource costs of doing basically anything.

[@walkerfharris]

Thank you so much for the warning at the beginning you literally saved me lol ❤

[@beastpower508]

I saw those hidden messages during the black screens responding to possible nuclear power... just couldnt decode them

[@gsuberland]

Thanks for the PSE warning. Always nice to see folks making their videos accessible :)

[@CopperGoose98]

Been waiting my whole life for this vid!!!! Lesssss Fucking GOOOOOO!!!!!

[@VanillaIceCube]

Ahhh! I am using the same popping sound in my playthrough! That's a great way to show passage of time for long off screen builds!

[@obake6290]

As cool as this all was ( as in, it was cool seeing how you solved the mod and I'd like to try it myself sometime) the coolest part for me was actually watching you try out all the different military things. Since I always turn the biters off, I don't really get to see much of them. Poison capsules were way better than I thought. The robots seemed about as bad as everyone says. The most positive thing I've seen is that they would be great if destroyers came in around green/military science instead of all the way back at yellow. I can kind of see that.

[@davidmcguire8041]

What a beast. But worth it for that beautiful gradient of queued science.

[@talonshepard8694]

The dad and jumper cables is some reaaaaalll old head imgur stuff. Maybe other communities too but thats where I saw it most. Nice one.

[@JTCF]

Having almost each item produced in a single cell kinda pays off because of so many random sciences, you almost always have the item produced already lol.

[@user-zo1kn8ob7h]

56:25 bro this is my whole factoriolife hmm this looks needed and that and well that's right there so 100 miles of wall later im still on green sci

[@ValeriyTheCat]

Babe wake up Doc Jade uploaded

[@paradoxcorporated2906]

That was me. I was about to get to sleep, but this video came out

[@AlloAlloRocks]

Not sure if you're interested since I'm not a member, but a challenge where you only have one inventory slot could be fun. You might need to start with an assembler, pluss everything you need for a little bit of power since you cant make any of that by hand, but if anyone could do this I'm sure you could

[@maltardraco9555]

You actually beat it? Well done!

[@clarfonthey]

This base is the epitome of "I could fix it, but I could also just wait longer." Plus, the waiting doubles as procratination!

[@TheFinagle]

to both feed a signal and read a pulse from an inserter all you need is combinators that act as a one way data gate. One gate for each inserter. Source, done it a few times in my SE+K2 run.

[@GDPanda69]

Huge, and awesome!

[@konkerouf]

"due to how the grid is setup, train have to wait to unload one at a time" use train limit also sushi is stupidly damn simple - input inserters (read content pulse mode + enable disable) on red wire, config: desired item < desired quantity - output inserters (connected to labs for example) on green wire then you need 2 arithmetic combinators - output inverter => connect green to input, ANYTHING * -1 => ANYTHING, connect ouput to memory cell input (with green wire) - memory cell => plug red wire on input, connect input to output (with red wire) each time an item is added on the belt, it adds +1 item to the memory cell (and the value is kept, that why it's a memory cell) each time an item is removed from the belt, it adds -1 item to the memory cell the input inserters have access to the memorized values (since it's memorized in the red wiring) and that way, knows when an item needs to be inserted if you lose power, you're fucked :)

[@Jademalo]

Very much enjoyed the LTT and Kliksphilip references, lol. Just like this Segway.

[@threesixtydegreeorbits2047]

i love your wall design

[@isaacshultz8128]

Thanks a million Doc

[@ricks5756]

The missing items icon constantly flashing, would drive me crazy after a few hours !

[@sanderbos4243]

I appreciate the jerma and kliksphilip reference

[@braydonfisher9273]

6:12 There's an FFF for that!

[@Fetch049]

Jade has been channeling his inner Nilaus.

[@gamingecko6475]

You should try rampant!! I’m currently playing with aai industry, programable vehicles and rampant. It’s fun because the bugs are a real threat and you can build an army of vehicles to take them out which balances the difficulty a bit. I wish there was more modded factorio videos, also your world has almost as many hours as my total lol. thanks for making this video!

[@inoperative]

Seeing the video I now get all the unhinged posts. Please take care. Great video!

[@SoylentGamer]

The chad poison capsule enjoyer: hmm yes, I do like killing all worms in a nest with little effort

[@MrDinoooooo]

all those sponsor puns I love it!

[@nicklachen5060]

wow this looked god damn brutal

[@nitrotypegod9598]

awesome video, get some rest you deserve it

[@medicmemes69]

you are easily the greatest factorio youtuber out there... BUT, is could you add the world download?

[@eringotkilled]

this really is the spaghetti of train bases

[@smugstrawberry2223]

Me seeiNg the video:“Oh man part 2 I wonder how chaotic this will get!” 1 minute in: “I will be making a diagonal rail line base

[@nateg876]

1:04:20 lol. That got me Also nice Philip impression.

[@Ben_R4mZ]

I'd love to see you tackle Seablock