DON'T BLINDLY Buy This CPU! -- AMD Ryzen 9 7950X

[@Nicolas11x12English]

Many thanks go out to #Georgios over at #equippr for getting a hold on this CPU for my review. #NotSponsored 🤗🤩 What are YOUR thoughts on the 7950X? Did you expect MORE or LESS? 🤔🤔🤔

[@infinit3platin7m90]

Intel have been requiring people to buy new motherboards with each new CPU release on a yearly basis and nobody cared. AMD changing to a new platform after 5 years and people lose their minds.

[@TheMusicHeals.kjhjhhg]

AMD has been doing that for long time it's one of the big reason I stay with them, I'm not gonna drop $600-1000 everytime intel releases a new CPU its foolish to do so.

[@madmike1708]

Honestly it's why I went for AMD this time. Before my pc was a gaming rig, but now it's a workstation, I'd rather be able to upgrade more often because time is money.

[@mannequindisplay]

I agree with you as I just upgraded my PC from a Intel I9-9900k to the ryzen 9 7950x and I can say I paid less for the AMD CPU then my Intel chip and even the memory at the time I bought my Intel system 16 GB of DD4 cost me $280 Canadian and this time it was $219 for 32gb so I wish You-tubers STOP complaining about money as not everyone updates their PC on a yearly bases as starting to be very boring mind you I admit the cost of motherboards went up so the savings I made in the CPU and Memory went into the Motherboard as when I bought mine for the i9 it was $450 Canadian but my new board for AMD was $640 mind you I could of went with a cheaper board but that is my choice and YES if you built your PC in early 2019 or late 2018 both AMD and Intel you have to upgrade everything so why not go to DDR5 for today's standard

[@mrchromexxx]

the mindset of fanboys is depressing

[@boot-strapper]

im loving my 7950x, and it keeps getting better as new driver versions come out.

[@davemaverick8438]

driver for cpu?

[@boot-strapper]

@@davemaverick8438 mobo and windows drivers mainly.

[@davemaverick8438]

@@boot-strapper oh yeah, can imagine also nice performance boost with the windows "ghost spectre" edition

[@boot-strapper]

@@davemaverick8438 idk anything about that. I just know that my rig was running better.

[@davemaverick8438]

@@boot-strapper i got like 30 fps boost in many games with ghost spectre edition, its optimized version of windows especially for gaming check it out on yt

[@alastorcho2919]

In my opinion, the r9 7950x is the better option and beats the 7950x3d in some titles/scenarios. The 7950x will age well as new technologies will be released that take advantage of the 16 cores, The 7950x is much better than the i9 13900k, even with lower benchmark scores because of it. I'm getting a r23 Cinebench score of 40k easily with an all core off set of -0.030v.This greatly reduce power consumptions and temperatures. To beat that score a 13900k must draw close to 300watt.

[@OptimizingNetwork]

I am gonna stop you on that thinking. I just returned 7950x, and I already had 13900k when I bought 7950x. It is not what you think it is. 7950x completely stumbles in gaming even with RTX 4080, let alone RTX 4090. GPU utilization is minus 20%-25% compared to 13900k. So, you will have worse lows and not as high highs, and lower averages in terms of FPS. About 20% lower single thread performance compared to 13900k will also show in snappiness of Windows 11 Also, I was getting heavy stutters in Red Dead Redemption 2 and Insurgency Sandstorm with 7950x. Almost none on 13900k. 7950x is a great workstation CPU, not gaming, and no it won't age as well as 13900k, 7950x3D can decimate 7950x, but offset of core frequencies causes stutter between certain game transitions. You can see it in multiple benchmarks on many channels. Watch for any hitching in action of the game, it's there, even with current Agesa Firmware updates. In some games 12900k still beats out 7950x. I bought 7950x because I was thinking that I can completely remove any stutter with that CPU, and I was greeted with tons of issues. Frame to frame latency is greater on R9 7950X compared to 13900k/14900k. Future AMD AM5 (non-cache versions) will likely beat 14900k, but that is in the future. 7950x is not a 1080p CPU, unless you buy GPU below 4080 level

[@xzil2167]

Yeah but the problem is with the power consumption with the 7950x

[@defectiveclone8450]

Great cpu review.. :) i see everyones buying the 5800x3d and those who are not are waiting for the 7800x3d

[@abhisheksakpal484]

That’s only for gaming though, people are still buying 7950x for productivity! It’s a beast for that at consumer prices

[@jdogg2934]

5800x3d is a drop in upgrade 7800x you have to buy a new mb and ram and possibly a new cooler

[@Nicolas11x12English]

Thank you very much! :)

[@aurelio3410]

@@jdogg2934 if you’re on an older node, might as well, it’ll last you longer, i was on Intel and now I’m waiting for 7800x3d

[@d3adsin362]

so your issue is your forced to buy expensive ddr5 on a 700 cpu. ddr5 that only cost $219 for 6000mt and $150 for 5600

[@Nicolas11x12English]

No, it's not just that. I've talked about my issues with this CPU in my video. :)

[@russelrenznerosa8969]

The quality of your videos is excellent. You should be receiving sponsorship.

[@Nicolas11x12English]

Thank you very much for your kind words!

[@JMNovak1011]

I know you were comparing stock clock speed between the two but the 5950X can easily do 4.2ghz multi core and 5.05ghz single core under load with alittle tweaking. CB23 scores of 1700/30,000 very doable.

[@infinit3platin7m90]

If you think DDR5 is expensive then you have amnesia of the memory shortage not too long long ago when RAM was way more expensive. It’s amazing how cheap DDR5 is in comparison. People always have something to complain about and forget about times when things were much worse.

[@Nicolas11x12English]

Just because things were worse doesn't mean prices are okay now, but I do get your point. :)

[@dannyb.7219]

Came for the benchmarks. Stayed for the dance party.

[@Nicolas11x12English]

Haha, thanks! xD

[@mikebruzzone9570]

So whoever said at AND to add the iGPU for what it is worth on utility value (maybe not) kicked out the DDR 4 memory controller? mb

[@bobmorane6415]

actually for me it is why waste money on a ddr4 board that im going to change next year ill rater have the igpu if my gpu fails or at least to troubleshot if its hte gpu or something else

[@afrostytown3870]

is the 7950x good for gaming too? i just ordered it and im scared if i bought a bad processor lol

[@Nicolas11x12English]

Don't worry. While it's a CPU targeted more towards productivity, it performs just as well in games. :)

[@ggkris1308]

i got a ryzen 9 7950x3d and with everything set which wasnt that hard to do, it kicks but in games

[@MrGsxrme]

I love my new computer build. The 7950x and 4090 chews through everything at 4k. The 7950x will only get better as Microsoft, AMD fixes the 22H2 preformance bugs on the CCD hand offs

[@Nicolas11x12English]

Wow, you've built yourself an AMAZING system. :o Congrats! :)

[@kusumayogi7956]

Is bug already fixed?

[@ZERARCHIVE2023]

bro took the most expensive MOBO out there 💀

[@nandagopalgopakumar5626]

Wish the AM5 mobo were a bit cheaper. :| would buy it if it were, + a cheaper CPU, like 7500 maybe, so that i can upgrade to Zen6 or so ?

[@zenithchan1646]

It’s cheapet now

[@Crossfire2003]

Great video!

[@Nicolas11x12English]

Thank you! :)

[@PhillipLemmon]

Yes, I agree. Unless you are doing 128 million things at one time ...this level type of processor 9 times out of ten you really only need 6 or 8 cores.

[@zagan1]

Gaming only needs 4 cores. But this CPU wasn't based around gamers

[@TheJinxedkarma]

Stop spreading lies. Since the introduction of PS5 and XBOX XS/1 or whatever games are commonly able to utilize more cores. before they locked down cod config you could set it to use all 16. @@zagan1

[@al_stand_3959]

I am waiting for mine. I have a 3900x and it will be a nice upgrade. I work and game with my pc so it is a perfect upgrade. I was considering to buy the intel 13900k but I really like that AMD will support the am5 platform until 2025. Maybe I will grab a x3D chip down the line. Subscribe to your channel and waiting for your next video about this cpu if you ever do one :) Thanks for the great content. (Sorry I am french canadian)

[@Nicolas11x12English]

Yes, indeed. That sounds like a really nice upgrade! :) Thank you for subscribing and for your kind words. Very much appreciated. ^^

[@jazon9]

"I was considering to buy the intel 13900k but I really like that AMD will support the am5 platform until 2025." - but you pay for this. You pay for more expensive CPU, you pay for more expensive board. So where it is a deal? I mean what differance if you pay more now for future upgrade only CPU, or pay now less and pay more in future for additional new motherboard for new cpu? I dont see value if you must now pay more for this.

[@al_stand_3959]

In Canada, the DDR5 motherboards are in the same price range and even cheaper on the side of AMD sometimes (for example the highest Asus Rog Strix X670 model vs the Z790 one) The 13th gen is the last generation compatible with Z790. The rams are in the same price range. The difference between CPUs are 100$ It cost me 60$ more to go with AMD. I am saving at least 500 canadian $ (for a decent mobo) down the line and I know that I will buy another CPU by 2025. I am not going with DDR4 so this is not an argument for me.

[@jazon9]

@@al_stand_3959 You dont must go to Z790, it is a point!. You go z690 cheaper. You dont gaint much for z790.

[@al_stand_3959]

​@@jazon9 Good point! But I would still have opted for a Z790 :p

[@potatochobit]

I want VR performance, kid.

[@Nicolas11x12English]

Me too.

[@insu_na]

Ich glaub du bist der Erste bei dem ich im Review die Idle Power Consumption sehe. Mein 5950X braucht im Idle ~65W und das find ich schon viel, aber doppelt so viel für den 7950X? :O bei den aktuellen Strompreisen reiner Wahnsinn

[@Nicolas11x12English]

Geht mir genau so. Der Idle Stromverbrauch schmerzt enorm. :(

[@relasoft]

5800X (non 3d) offers 85% gaming performance of 7950X for half the price (or less).

[@pravinsmart]

That's comparing apple with oranges. 16 cores 32 threads vs 8 cores 16 threads. 170w vs 105w. 3.8Ghz vs 4.5Ghz Base clock. You'll be actually spending more when buying 2x 5800x to match the same cores but still pay more for power with much lower performance.

[@relasoft]

@@pravinsmart For a gaming budget pc, a 5800X offers a better value than a 7950X. Production scenarios/high-end gaming, i would go with the 7950X for sure.

[@choppergirl]

I really love my 7950x. Set the quick n easy overclocking profile in the bios to the easy setting to run at 80C/Level 1, and it runs cool like a dream. That's all you have to do, change one setting in BIOS. No overheating problems whatsoever. I run a Corsair H150i 360mm AIO RAD on mine and recommend it. You want a big beefy radiator. Windows 10 and my video editing software isn't the greatest though at spreading loads across all cores, and, UEFI bios looks pretty but kinnda of swxs for it's complexity, and DDR5 ain't all that it's cracked up to be from a price/performance perspective. (Level 1 = Negative 10 undervolt of the Curve on all cores, if you want to tinker and squeeze more out, try and push it manually up by ones if you can get up to Negative 15 undervolt). You can get it up from a typical 5.3 megahertz to 5.4 megahertz and still be at 80C tops. I'm running mine at Negative 12 undervolt the curve on all cores... Negative 15 would do random crashes. Others have done Negative 15... it all comes down to the silicon lottery and random chance of what you get out the fab. I don't recommend trying Level 2, 3, 4, or 5... (Negative 20,30,40, 50 undervolt on the CPU power Curve respectively) as those are probably meant for other CPUs in their lineup. You won't hurt your processor, but it just will crash or not post or be unstable. If you can run Level 2 stably forever with no crashes, then you must of hit some lottery jackpot.

[@genergia]

I am so happy with my 7950X

[@Nicolas11x12English]

You should be. :)

[@GreggRoberts]

I paid $545 for my 7950 at Microcenter. No problems with it yet. It sure is spicy though!

[@cocoquillet]

Ty for the work. Can we have the efficiency per watt between 5950x and 7950x?

[@yearofthegarden]

If you make money from your computer's rendering capacity, the 7950x is worth the hassle, but as someone who does make money from his computer, I went with the 7900x because I don't like water cooled CPU, it just doesn't seem like something that is designed to last and I judge that based on my experiences with inline pumps from non-computer situations, and last thing I want is the highest wattage CPU to be without heat dissipation. The 7900x heat throttles on the best CPU coolers like NH-U9A or D15, so there really isn't a reason to go above 7900x in my opinion unless you need those extra cores to really make you money faster with your process. Air cooled 7900x is going to last me 10 years easily, and it only cost $300 to upgrade from my AM4 build after I sold all the AM4 components on Ebay. Worth the upgrade for sure.

[@fingerstyledojo]

Wow. Dein Kanal ist absolute Klasse!!! Ich habe viel gelernt.

[@Serandi1987]

I've got the 5800X with the RTX 4090 and I'm happy as hell at 4K gaming!

[@Nicolas11x12English]

Nice! :D

[@Serandi1987]

@@Nicolas11x12English Dankeschön Nicolas ❤️ hoffe du hast /bekommst auch eine 😍

[@Nicolas11x12English]

@@Serandi1987 Danke! :) Also geplant ist bei mir definitiv keine RTX 4090. Finanziell wird das etwas zu heftig für mich. xD Allerdings würde ich hoffen, dass ich mir vielleicht nächstes Jahr irgendwann, wenn es die Finanzen erlauben, mir eine RX 7900 XT oder gar 7900 XTX zulegen kann. :D

[@quangvo9802]

be fair plz!

[@RAZR_Channel]

CC : Speak Faster... I'm at 2X and it is still a grind...

[@Saiphedias0815]

Ok er ist ja ehrlich. Aber genau so ehrlich muss man sagen ist eben der Vergleich zur 12000er CPU von Intel zum jetzigen Zeitpunkt wirklich eigentlich gar fehl am Platze.

[@Nicolas11x12English]

Aus dem Grund habe ich auch 1 - 2 Mal darauf hingewiesen, dass meine Intel CPUs der 13. Generation noch nicht angekommen sind und noch Tests bzw. Vergleiche damit anstehen. :)

[@Saiphedias0815]

@@Nicolas11x12English Jupp.... habe ich ja mit "ehrlich" gemeint. Trotzdem: Ich finde entweder Video später machen oder früher. Zum jetzigen Zeitpunkt so ungünstig. Meine Meinung. Das Video ist sehr ansprechend gemacht. Wirklich gut, Dennoch kein Daumen hoch. Weiterwirken !! ^^

[@RStack04]

I appreciate the effort put into this video, but I simply don't agree with the final conclusion. Cost is not the determining factor for a high-end gaming PC. The 7950X results speak for themselves.

[@issaciams]

Meh. I think it's a great cpu and obviously since it's on a new platform you have to pay for the new motherboard/ram but that's normal every few years a new platform is released. Should we have stayed on lga775 because it's cheaper? Lol

[@Nicolas11x12English]

Of course not, but prices weren't as high back then. Sure, we need to factor in inflation, but prices nowadays for PC hardware is almost excessive, in my opinion. :o

[@Saiphedias0815]

Ich frage mich immer ob eine AMD GPU auf einer AMD Plattform besser performt.... aber wirklich sicher kann man das wohl nicht austesten glaube ich.

[@steezegod2768]

I see the 7950x3d, and 7800x3d as 2023 best cpus the 13900ks is just going to do 6ghz like some 13900ks have done in the wild already 😂

[@TurboLevoSam]

I have a 13900ks that hits 6.04ghz on water only.

[@DanielLaixer]

haha bank account goes brrr... I'm waiting for my cooler to arrive for my new 7950X3D build

[@darreno1450]

You don't buy this CPU for gaming. It's more production focused. A 7700X is the way to go for mainly gaming and some production. Or stick with AM4 and get a 5800X3D till the 7000X3D series show up.

[@Nicolas11x12English]

Indeed.

[@Triwjhd]

I bought this purely for gaming. looks like I screwed myself

[@veckgames]

Just wait for the 3d versions, if the performance uplift is anything like it was for zen 3 then those will be the real treasures.

[@ME-dg5np]

The Key : undervolt

[@Nicolas11x12English]

Or even better: PBO2 tuning. ;)

[@spike178]

Beats Intel rubbish.

[@randallbro6749]

Don't buy it if you plan to upgrade from the 3000 series or 5000 series. Instant buyers regret. Wait 5 years

[@Dreamlication]

Bruh I already bought it with my rx 6800. 💀

[@juliushassan]

Perfect example of a fanboy Video!!!!!!

[@arghyaprotimhalder5592]

didnt like the video for gaming most cases 7600x to 7800x3D is more than enough . thats cpu is made to RENDER not play games if it can render faster nothing matters

[@h1tzzYT]

After owning 5950x im done with amd's high gaming temps. Im one of those "air cooler or nothing" guys and zen 2,3 and 4 suffers greatly from high temps in gaming workloads especially with air coolers. Sure the performance is awesome and im going to keep my 5950x for a long time, but if you are going to run stock high end cpu do not get zen 4, its going to be a nightmare dealing with your cpu fan noise and fan curves. And before anyone pops out with arguments like "but you can undervolt it with curve optimizer" well kinda, but it takes a lot of time to dial actual stable undervolt and in some cases you will actually increase your cpu temps, it has to do with your cpu best cores and whether you undervolt them or not. With intel its alot simpler it will run cool in gaming and hot in all core workloads, but you can set power limits to 200-250W for all core and it will be much better temp wise and very minimal all core performance penalty. So overall i think that too many reviewers ignore big part of temp testing methodology. With such aggressive cpu boosting algo's these days reviewers needs to start testing low load scenarios and high load scenarios because it can have massive impact on day2day use.

[@optimalsettings]

You can set a powerlimit by adjusting ppt in pbo.

[@h1tzzYT]

@@optimalsettings What you say is true but for that you need to reduce it drastically either manually at

[@ChaoticFoxxie]

@@h1tzzYT maybe research more before spreading fasle info eco mode iant only 65w thiers also other watt mdoes for along with mutiple ways to limt ryzen with out harming permfomce that are stable

[@RATTL3R186]

Apparently.you can't Mount a CPU cooler.for shit ,use toothpaste for TIM and apparently use the AMD freebie cooler . Quit.cramming so much voltage thru a 16 core processor . Try parking some.cores .

[@optimalsettings]

@@h1tzzYT single core stays the same in eco mode. I set my pbo so that with multcore my temps are around 80°. 4.2ghz allcore 135 115 185. Sc is the same. In eco mode multicore is lower but sc is the same.

[@ertai222]

Pretty click baity title

[@My_Sunrise]

You should vulgarize more in your video! Please

[@Nicolas11x12English]

LOL, why? :D

[@nivea878]

i keep my 9700k

[@s.m.g.2166]

Stop begging for likes. I don't care if you've paid out of pocket.

[@Nicolas11x12English]

Not begging at all. I just want to let people know I take neither AMD's nor Intel's side. Thanks for understanding! :)

[@s.m.g.2166]

@@Nicolas11x12English dude we know most people who make reviews for tech, at least the smaller channels, have paid out of pocket. Still, Stop guilt tripping people into subbing

[@Nicolas11x12English]

@@s.m.g.2166 You are right to some extent, but close to no one is going to like, subscribe or have any sympathy towards me, just because of me stating I pay for the stuff out of my own pocket. Also neither should nor will anyone feel guilty about it. Anyway, merry Christmas and a happy new year to you! :)

[@husxle]

@@s.m.g.2166 You're an idiot.