[Doom Eternal] Bad Weapon Academy - Mobile Turret

[@fishstickonastick-gaming]

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[@_eya]

getting that bread

[@jerfer.]

jerf

[@kerbonaut2059]

get their money

[@NewArmies]

get that bag fish

[@kyperactive]

Shill

[@purplehaze2358]

Okay, but consider this: The mobile turret upgrade is simply cooler than its competition, making my lizard brain very happy to see and use. Therefore, mobile turret go brrrr.

[@MachoMan1123]

no its BBBBRRRRRRRRRR

[@Bears-Are_Swell]

Mobile turret is the best because damage do be fat

[@gamlinggamern1]

i enjoy massive gun

[@mjsugod1385]

Bigger gun, bigger fun

[@Wo0zy23]

Agreed! Efficiency is no substitute for sweet style.

[@walugusgrudenburg3068]

Honestly there's nothing really wrong with the Auto Turret. It's just a direct alternative to the super mega ultra incredibly overpowered shield and thus is completely outclassed.

[@yakobsoulstorm5187]

Wow that’s crazy, almost as if Fish actually send that in the first five minutes of the video. Fuck you.

[@mrosskne]

you don't need the shield if you never get hit

[@ekris5072]

@@mrosskneyou dont need the shield if you kill everyone hitting you

[@zombieboss5178]

@@ekris5072 the shield isn't even strong for defense it's used for offense you dummy try watching the video next time

[@davidsplooge14]

​@@mrossknebut you will get hit though

[@MistaHoward]

Small correction: a 20% increase to damage combined with a 20% increase to fire rate is a 44% increase to overall DPS since the extra shots you're firing are doing more damage each. 10 damage shots 100 times per second is 1,000 damage while 12 damage shots 120 times per second is 1,440 damage. The two modifiers stack multiplicatively.

[@OhCrapI_He]

Beat me to it

[@EdibleREAL]

That means that the mobile turret is now the best mod in doom eternal!!1!1!!

[@OhCrapI_He]

@@EdibleREAL Maybe... it is a straight upgrade to the unmodded weapon, but then again there's the shield I'm not going to say anything else, as I haven't played Doom Eternal (though I'd like to)

[@HuneeBruh]

@@OhCrapI_Hehave you played it yet?

[@Duke-ducey]

20% more punch, 20% faster, 100% more awesome. 😎

[@gaussman3369]

It honestly feels like the devs saw how devastating turret was in 2016 and overcompensated HARD for that in Eternal. Oh well. Great video as always!

[@mrosskne]

It's just as good as in eternal if you can aim

[@Letsanum]

​@@mrosskneyeah besides fuck all for ammo reserves

[@DinnerForkTongue]

​@@mrosskne With what ammo?

[@sufnskanne469]

Ok apply this is accurate if you ment saw how devs saw doom 2016 and overcompansted hard for everything in doom eternal.

[@mrosskne]

@@Letsanum you dumbasses never heard of the chainsaw or something? lmao

[@jtcameron8345]

"You're using the chaingun as the chaingun to make it do more chaingun" That's 20% more Chaingun per Chaingun!

[@greycatturtle7132]

Yup

[@charlesmartin1972]

And if that don't work, use more chaingun

[@readyplayerthree3]

I hear that in the Cave Johnson voice

[@inkmime]

The appeal of the mobile turret is purely the audio/visual feedback for me. It's my reward for having cleared out most of a room but still have some heavies or a tyrant to kill. It's sad that it doesn't stack up but being vaguely competent at Nightmare means I get to have a treat every so often with it. A side note: I feel like the Assault Cannon is literally just a few edits away from sounding amazing, it's got a good thumping beat to it. It just needs that little something. Damn thing is like, a 20mm handheld cannon, it should sound like it.

[@thefatherinthecave943]

That “tunk tunk tunk” sound is so good.

[@LettuceGayming]

Sir have you ever seen a handheld 20mm

[@inkmime]

@@LettuceGayming I kinda wish I could but we'd need a real life Slayer to fire it and not immediately dislocate their shoulder.

[@LettuceGayming]

@@inkmime they exist, but they’re single shot anti material rifles. Look up the NTW 20

[@DreamyAileen]

For what it's worth, in one of his livestreams Game Director Hugo Martin said that he requested the audio team to make some of the guns sound beefier, but their response was that if they went too hard on the gun sounds it would get all muddied up with the music in the mix.

[@KyleLyre13]

TL;DR: You either die a Heavy, or live long enough to see yourself become a Demoknight. Love the video

[@ImpassiveCanine]

16:25 Console player here. While not as efficient, you can select a weapon on the wheel the instant you hold the button to open it, meaning as long as you know where your weapons are, you can swap quickly and with relative ease.

[@wooblydooblygod3857]

Yeah, i remember playing so fast that the weapon wheel hardly even showed up. I just did it by instinct. It helps that the wheel slows down time when open too.

[@nuclearcommando9729]

Been awhile since I played, but I also remember just pressing the button swapped to the previously equipped weapon, which made the ballista/super shotgun combo a little easier instead of constantly having to menu it.

[@iamthemouse4483]

Since you're branching out now, I'd like to make a recommendation. If you play Terraria, I'd like to see a bad weapon academy for the Celebration MK1

[@rynemcgriffin1752]

While we’re at it, let’s get the Adamant Rail from Hades in on that too

[@doofsivaworshipper8015]

Ay. What did the rail do to you? That thing is nasty with zues boons.

[@starmaker75]

​@@rynemcgriffin1752I would think the bow would be a better fit, especially the default one. Again it can do work and some boons can make it busted, but I find it awkward to use it.

[@rynemcgriffin1752]

@@starmaker75 Here’s my thing, the bow on its own can do work when used properly and it always feels like there’s less work to get it to do really good damage. I don’t feel the same for the Rail which at its default, sluggishly chips damages it’s way through everything and falls off hard in Asphodel, the second stage of the game, and fires a grenade that does similar damage to the primary fire. Even with boons, it’s a struggle to get this thing to do even decent damage even with the overpowered Zeus Boons. The alternative forms of the Rail don’t fair much better with only the Hidden 4th Form being moderately worth picking. It’s not to say you can’t do anything with it, it’s the constant struggle to get it to the point so it can do anything that makes it bad in my opinion.

[@Yousef241]

Well its not bad aslong as you have maxed out gear against pre hardmode bosses

[@aanproduction1516]

If mobile turret would be as faltering as classic Doom's plasma gun it would be such an improvement. It's also makes sense, if you are getting shot from 12 barrels at the higher speed than usual you probably gonna falter much more

[@theballoonfamily9539]

So here's a fun fact. The power-up for temporary infinite ammo doesn't affect the BFG. But there used to be a time where it DID affect the Unmyker. This was sadly patched later.

[@Rampartition]

It's costs way too much ammo to fire this weapon for not long enough. Keep up the good work, good sir!

[@GerMorden]

This one was much crazier in Doom 2016 due to unlimited ammunition options. Like I managed to take more than 50% HP down from the Mastermind before I even started losing ammo. But yeah, Doom Eternal just has less ammo, so it;s meh.

[@mrosskne]

use a chainsaw dummy

[@TheActualMrLink]

$400,000 for 12 seconds?

[@LucarioDoT]

​@@TheActualMrLink $1,600,000 for 12

[@dragonlord4898]

Promotion Skip Button: 2:30

[@Sphendrana]

We need more content creators who put these in their descriptions/make a chapter to skip that portion. All for them getting corpo trash money and running with it, but let me skip ahead manually without scrubbing through the video to see when to stop lol

[@bluecube9515]

I refuse to believe my favorite attachment in Doom Eternal is even remotely bad.

[@RacingSnails64]

It's not bad tbh. It's great for unloading and melting enemies when you don't wanna put too much effort or thought into killing them in the moment. I love using it on large enemies like Mancubi, Barons, Tyrants, and even the Archvile after stunning/freezing him. In fact it's my go-to weapon after exposing an Armored Baron. Just brrrrr for a few seconds and then an SSG takes him out pretty swiftly.

[@doofsivaworshipper8015]

I love how this series is branching into different games. You have a genuine good series here man. Thanks for all the wonderful videos mr. Funni fish man.

[@Pividol]

because there is no more tf2 content

[@jimijenkins2548]

Siva gang

[@grfrjiglstan]

From that animation, you'd never guess it was just a 40% DPS increase.

[@dinobro4273]

Yeah its kinda disappointing It should've been a quadruple increase in the DPS, for quadruple ammo consumption as a downside. Even then I doubt it'll supersede the Shield in usefulness since the Shield is that broken.

[@known_54]

Seeing this Doom Eternal content now makes me have an idea for the channel, BROKEN weapon academy, where you take a look at the most broken or otherwise busted or overpowered weapons in a game, and explain what makes them so broken! It would be a pretty cool antithesis to the regular BWA videos, just applied to broken and OP weapons!

[@BlazeMakesGames]

I do really love the idea of the mobile turret heating up and dealing fire damage to have another means of giving you armor. It would give it a different kind of defensive utility compared to the shield, and you could even have the damage increase the longer you sustain your fire to really encourage a classic minigun-minute style of play. That said tho it really feels like it needs some way to sustain its fire for longer because it feels like you just burn through your armmo way too fast. Maybe if it was also more efficient at spending ammo somehow, like you got 4 shots for every bullet because of doom logic.

[@Becerraproductionhaus]

The thing is, to get the complete Doom Eternal experience, you gotta be constantly switching between every weapon and the several mods. It feels amazing to switch to the mobile turret to finish a dude off or something

[@LazyBird13]

It’s another one of those cases In video games where other weapons do the job better. It’s disappointing to see, but somewhat understandable

[@mrosskne]

nah turret's better

[@mrosskne]

@@poleve5409 Is that supposed to mean something to me? barons are so fucking easy with the turret lol

[@Xtupra_Pobrezzz]

​@@poleve5409BRAAAAAAAAAAAAPPP baron ded

[@charley2714]

These videos are proving to me that I was dumb while playing this game, because every weapon mod he has talked about so far on this series were the main weapons I used on my playthrough of this game

[@wyattdornewass2651]

Same dude. saaame. I feel dumb now for literally never using micro missiles because of how underwhelming they were to use

[@mrosskne]

that's because this guy is a clueless dork

[@agentj3627]

​@@wyattdornewass2651 sniper mod is still very good

[@Kaghtaviy]

You weren't dumb. You were just having fun.

[@DreamyAileen]

Nothing wrong with that. Fun > meta

[@krullachief669]

20:15 I'm not. I'm here to abuse every single mechanic available, because if it exists I will abuse it.

[@Dantido]

So happy the Bad Weapon Academy universe is expanding.

[@mr.bananaman9805]

as someone who played a FUCKTON of console doom eternal back in 2020, just tapping the weapon wheel button allowed you to combo super effectively. and for more than 3 weapons you literally just had to pull up the weapon wheel for a split second.

[@thorveim1174]

the issue is that its a sustained fire weapon with a firing mode al about said sustained fire, in a game where single shot weapons and quick swapping them are king

[@mrosskne]

nah sustained fire is better

[@calebbarnhouse496]

The problem with that is that you don't have infinite ammo, it's great to use it's ammo up and then swap through to a different weapon

[@thorveim1174]

@@mrosskne its really not. Look how higher level doom eternal players play, its all about cycling through single shot weapons/firing modules as doing so erases their "reload" times. The result is that doing it deletes enemies faster than taking the chaingun and sticking to it can ever do

[@thorveim1174]

@@calebbarnhouse496 except the assault cannon's sniping mode also uses said ammo and its far more desirable to use with quick swapping... that and ammo IS effectively infinite as long as you can find a random fodder/have chainsaw fuel

[@mrosskne]

@@thorveim1174 It's about cycling if you're bad. I completed ultra nightmare using only the chaingun as soon as it was unlocked.

[@r3eech]

for the very distant April fools, you should review the wooden sword from minecraft

[@nickr8662]

“Playing FPS games on a controller sucks ass and I don’t know how they do it” Simple, most games (when I was younger at least) weren’t built around the idea of keyboard controls, so playing with controller was all I had. as I grew up and got into modern gaming, sure playing with a MnK would technically be better, but I’d be trading all the muscle memory I have with controllers for the snappiness of a mouse. I can already style on keyboard players in Titanfall 2, which is absolutely not controller friendly. TL;DR: I don’t want to lose muscle memory, and it lets me sit on a couch, unlike the keyboard which you have to be stuck at a desk.

[@thehalfnegativeoptimist4578]

If you have any interest in it, I’d love to see a bad weapon academy on some weapons from Fallout 4. There are certainly some weapons in that game that are generally considered bad.

[@Anomaly188]

Assault Rifle would have to be the first entry. I hate that abomination to its core.

[@lordpumpkinhead265]

The problem with Fallout 4 weapons is the fact that there's not many to work with. Sure, there are conversions, but that seems less like a weapon itself and more like a modification for the weapon. New Vegas or 3 would be a better start than Fallout 4 due to their variety, but even then, most of the bad weapons in those games are meant to only be used relatively early on and phased out later for better items, with some exceptions like the Automatic Rifle from Dead Money (same with Fallout 4).

[@dinobro4273]

@@Anomaly188 meh Just change the name to Machine Gun (like it supposed to be called originally before release) and you most likely wont have much problem with it. The damage fully upgraded is pretty sub par tho.

[@llmkursk8254]

It's kinda funny to also look at Titanfall 2's Legion, and think about how that class uses the assault cannon, with a shield. The other abilities of the assault cannon make up for other points, however. The alt-fire can either be a blast of bullets at short range, or an explosive shot for long range, depending on which mode the assault cannon is in. And Legion's Core Ability(effectively an ultimate), Smart Core, gives the assault cannon infinite ammo and allows it to lock onto enemies, with bullets and charged shots homing in on locked-on targets. What could've been done, is the incendiary boost like you mentioned, with an extra ability where turning off Mobile Turret in this state will fire off a spray of bullets, giving it combo potential.

[@zephyrprime8]

Using the mobile turret with Rich Get Richer in Doom 2016 was so fun

[@Springboi9832]

imma be honest... I have... NEVER... used the energy shield mod for the chain gun... cuz my monkey brain becomes happy when big turret turns into 4 small turrets, but i normally save it for super heavy demons such as the Archvile, Baron, and Doom Hunter... and the Dread knight

[@kylele23]

I think one more weakness of mobile turret is how you get made slower. Dread Knights are almost always what I use it for because I just end up eating projectiles if I’m not hopping 24/7 with it. I can move all I want with other options.

[@quellingegnere]

It would be so cool if Fishstick made a Bad Weapon Academy series on Ratchet and Clank

[@mengo329]

Upgraded Lava Gun from R&C2 should totally be the first episode lmao

[@remdaug1876]

nah the Ratchet and Clank 2 Lava Gun is actually really powerful, but at the same time, same boat, me like streams of lava

[@jeremydixon1586]

@@mengo329I’d argue it’s the strongest weapon in the game (besides RYNO) assuming you’ve given it the Lock-On mod.

[@filthycasual6118]

@@mengo329 Lock-on is GOAT with the lava gun. Also, it's been discussed occasionally in streams. There's been "hardware difficulties" with his "perfectly legitimate" copy of the game and the "real PS2" he plays them on. Hopefully we see them eventually. My money is personally on the shock cannon.

[@animeguy1633]

One time in eternal i found this weird bug where the micro missiles mod was shooting bullets from the precision bolt mod but at the rate of missiles so i could shred any demon with it instantly

[@arena_breakingmywilltolive]

0:24 I did not just hear *biblically accurate raid shadow legends* un-provoked

[@TheTundraTerror]

For something called "mobile turret", it sure feels like your stationary when you use it.

[@vapecatcultmember4505]

My heart sank when I saw my favorite gun here

[@keetongu9511]

I mainly used the mobile turret as a panic button. In some of the harder arena rooms it was nice to just be able to throw a million bullets at a big enemy to take the pressure off.

[@zacharygilmore1075]

At least Doom Eternal never forces us to use the Mobile Turret, unlike the two other previous weapons mentioned in this series.

[@Gabriel_PL]

Things mobile turret could do to be less outclassed by the shield: -Overheat faster and shoot incendiary(as you said) -Increase rate of fire as long as you keep firing on this mode -Shoot as normal in front but also two more, one at 15-45º of each side of the main one in a forked cone of fire to make it great for pumping massive ammounts of damage on large enemies point blank in exchange of dumping 3x the bullets -Shoot fully straight and precise, but causes non-stop stagger to whatever poor demon is now helplessly stunlocked to death (stun drops inmediatly if you lose focus to fire at another enemy, next stun takes way more to avoid cheesing it)

[@EternalFurious-tp7bw]

In my opinion the mobile turret isn’t to bad but it just gets outclassed once you understand the concept of quick switching and shield bashing, and it doesn’t help that it chews through your ammo when that ammo can be better spent on the precision bolt mod of the heavy cannon which does huge damage with headshots and the has ability to take out weak points accurately and effectively. Therefore I believe that the mobile turret is just outdated for Doom Eternal, it was good in Doom 2016 because it was more simple and grounded by the older gameplay style of the original Doom games.

[@docholiday4129]

I’ve noticed after playing in UV and Nightmare. Quick burst fire weapons and abilities are much more useful than automatics. The super shot gun, the precision shot on the heavy rifle, the ballista. Stuff that allows you to deal big damage or hit weak points while staying mobile. Cause in any Doom game, if you stand still for too long you die

[@DollyBowman]

You're now obligated to make a BWA for the Minecraft wooden sword

[@Demonskunk]

The whole time I was watching, I was just thinking “Mobile Turret really shines with quad damage because the slight increase to DPS jumps to a major increase with that bonus” But that’s kind of a niche case. I like it because BRRRRRRR

[@hesperosshamshael2873]

Chaingun aside, watching doom eternal gameplay is kinda mindbending to me. Doom Guy is just kinda flying around at will and everything is exploding.

[@Ferrochrome12]

Haven't watched the video, but as someone who's used the mobile turret since release and never once bothered with the crutch shield, I'll just go ahead and say this- MT looks cool as hell and staggers everything. Its amazing. I love to use it in conjunction with remote detonate and the microwave beam.

[@brawlstar1748]

This thing sounds pretty similar to the Syringe guns from TF2. Decent mid-range dps with its own special perks if you know how to use it (i.e. arcing projectiles or faltering Barons) and good to use as training wheels to improve at the game without the crutch of the clear superior weapons. Interesting parallel.

[@StoryTeller796]

With controllers, in Splatoon, Nintendo fixes the issue of the higher skill stuff by giving your controller motion controls instead of stick.

[@Brexcon.mp4]

If you want to branch out further, there’s a ton of bad weapons in the kingdom hearts series. There’s a lot of bad keyblades, and if you wanna go further, there’s a lot of bad equipable attacks/commands in the series

[@Dwayne_LaFontant]

I don’t have anything to do so I’m going to just watch this.

[@Impalingthorn]

I'll politely disagree. I've seen a ton of mileage out of this one weapon and you're right, using it as a starter or finisher IS the way to go, but if you have that strategy locked in and know what you're doing, the gun effectively turns into a better chaingun that dishes out more damage in a shorter amount of time; really helps when taking advantage of stun combos before cycling to a different weapons. Not the best option, but highly cost effective for what it is and essentially only gets stronger the longer you're able to hold that trigger down which is situationally VERY strong. I'd say it heavily boils down to your playstyle; if you are a combo king who likes going absolutely ballistic then yeah it'll suck but if you're a more defensive player who does their short combos and gets out before they get crowded and kites enemies towards them, I think it works great, especially given unlike a rocket or grenade you can redirect aim to other enemies with little to no penalty for doing so. It's a turret and should be used like one.

[@hellhound74]

The mobile turret IS NOT a bad weapon, it completely rips apart heavy demons and allows you to shred some bosses, it doesn't have the defensive utility of the shield but it can rip apart almost anything with some concentrated fire, and it's almost as much DPS and quick swapping super shotgun into scope heavy cannon

[@deathblade2639]

It is a waste of resources.

[@hellhound74]

​@@deathblade2639micro missiles are outclassed by precision bolt, which only uses 6 ammo per shot, you don't need a lot of ammo to use precision bolt, and if you are out you can just do the same with the ballista

[@deathblade2639]

@hellhound74 Precision bolts utility is a quick burst of damage combined with decreased cd on heavy weapons. Micro missiles are only useful for fodder, but for tight groups you might aswell use grenades Balista is for heavy burst Quad chain is a complete waste of resources, the only reason you'd even use chaingun primary with shield is to get extra damage in.

[@VioIetShift]

the thing is, if you put me in a position where I am choosing between more DPS and a defensive/control/special effect, I'll take the latter 11 times out of 10. MT will always have this problem because every other weapon in the game offers something unique, even if we limit ourselves away from Shield.

[@hellhound74]

@@deathblade2639 see I only ever use the ballista for primary fire, it's literally just a precision bolt but in energy, chain gun in general is meh unless you want to abuse the fuck out of shield (which I refuse) so it ends up not getting used unless I want to immediately focus down a problematic heavy demon

[@madmike022]

hey dont trash on my boy

[@vibesplaneoverflow-bz1xy]

It cost 400,000 megabits of ram to fire this weapon....for 12 seconds. 😎

[@gwagwagwagwagwagwa]

Idk if you're interested in the series but id love to see a bad weapon academy of the borderlands series

[@dubhog]

Could I suggest you do a gun from half life 1 or 2? I'm thinking tripmine and the hive hand from half life 1 and the car-tau cannon and grenades from half life 2

[@redengineer4320]

you can not stop me from shield bashing

[@jedstanaland2897]

From what I know of the doom series is they started doing a kind of lock and key system for the weapons around 2013. Basically what I'm saying is that each weapon and weapon mod has a specific and special situation where it is intended to be most effective but not necessarily outside of that specific situation and use point. Yes obviously there are going to be some weapons that naturally preform better but even though those exist the idea is to have a situation where if someone isn't quite as good with other weapons and are having troubles with the use of those weapons on certain enemies then they can get a slightly lower difficulty while still technically being on the higher difficulty. For example let's say that the difficulties are similar to what kid iccarus uprising does where it requires certain difficulty levels for certain cut scenes and certain weapon drops to happen. Well some of the weapons are extremely hard to use for certain missions and others are fairly easy on higher difficulty levels. So for example if the minimum level requirement to advance on a certain mission is 5 but you selected the gauntlets to take on that mission which essentially increases the level to 7 you are choosing that effort and skill requirement to be greater than the basic requirements but not rising as much. Likewise the opposite side of the coin has the same difficulty level requirement but the player is of a naturally lower skill level and because of that the game has a weapon type that can be more easily used by the lower skill player thus lowering the actual level requirement to something like 3 because instead of using the normally used weapon (bow) they use the (orbitars) to offer a way for less skilled players to still have fun. I used skill levels, difficulty levels , and weapons from the kid iccras game because it actually does work this way though not quite as drastically as that explanation but I believe that the example is still relevant. That game allows you to adjust the difficulty of every level to a fairly exacting level. We are talking about from .1 to 10.00 in .1 increments if I'm remembering correctly and certain mission absolutely require certain minimum difficulty settings to be able to progress in the story. This difficulty can be further tuned by choice of weapons which can increase or decrease the effective difficulty by an additional but small amount. These small difficulty changes can mean the difference between players quitting on mass and leaving bad reviews or angrily demanding a refund. Then other problems are also solved by the player learning new gameplay mechanics and generally feeling better about themselves.

[@graymondgt1397]

That intro makes me want a bad weapon academy for a minecraft weapon

[@hrothgardevaitos8330]

Just saying, Mobile Turret should be firing four times the bullets, AKA, a 400% increase in damage output and ammo drain. That would easily contend with Energy Shield.

[@puffer_frog]

An idea I had for the Mobile Turret is an explosion of shrapnel upon death, damage based on how much damage you did with the chaingun. It may be more flavor than actual gameplay but I see it as you putting a shitton of bullets into the enemies at a rapid pace and when they explosively die, the bullets you put into them scatter all about.

[@socksleeve]

you should do a BWA on the sawed off from Gears 3. Possibly the shortest range of any shotgun in any game, well, ever released. It makes the Doom 3 shotgun look like a sniper rifle

[@eyalamit5120]

Your gameplay makes me so happy because I'm happy to see I'm not the only DOOM Eternal player that DOESN'T swap between every single weapon every nano-second

[@absolutelynothing5576]

i think a good buff for it could be that the more enemies you kill the higher damage boost it gets or the longer you fire it the stonger it gets like maybe up to a 50% boost or maybe higher if it dosnt do enough

[@giovannimorelli4592]

To think the power of the mobile turret in Doom 2016 with the rune that gave to you infinite ammo

[@TheNameIsJimJag]

I love how you have moved Bad weapon academy from tf2 to other games, can't wait to see what game you move on to after doom. :)

[@thrackerzod6097]

The mobile turret is good for being a dumb DPS boost, something you can spray and pray at enemies, especially medium class enemies where it can get them into glory kill range pretty quick. What makes it good is just how much DPS you can squeeze out in a short time with little commitment, making it a descent choice when in a pinch, or just wanting to finish off a crowd faster which can mean a lot in a hectic fight

[@Teamfortressjunkie]

But the energy shield does the same damage as the mobile turret and requires even less commitment because it gives you god mode... not to mention you can blood punch while using it and add 2,000 damage.

[@BrotherVoidBomber]

"Your using the chain gun as a chain gun to do more chain gun." Me: I see no issue with this.

[@Friendly_Neighborhood_Dozer]

I will not accept this slander. This thing is literally the only thing that allowed me to kill a Archvile semi-easily.

[@THEGRUMPTRUCK]

Funnily enough, I trivialized my Ultra Nightmare runs of Eternal, TAG 1 and TAG 2 without changing off of the turret mode on chaingun. It made Ultra Nightmare so easy. It IS the better of the two if used properly. But yeah, Micro Missiles are probably among the best mods in the game hands down.

[@Kendrin9]

Ugh, love the Donkey Kong Country 2 music. Bramble Blast made my heart melt.

[@megan00b8]

I mean, it has four separate firing mechanisms when opened, so give me no damage bonus to individual round, just make it fire at 400% speed. Eats through ammo instantly, erases superheavies instantly. Suddenly its a contender to the shield.

[@bluebox3219]

Very informative I never knew about how good the micro missiles where Thanks

[@just-mees]

You want a secondary fire to the chaingun that's incendiary and rewards you for using primary fire? Have you played ultrakill?

[@TitanAEX4]

I never knew about lightspeed Hell Knight ragdolls. And now that I've seen them, they make things so much more entertaining! One other issue with Mobile Turret that I'm certain others have mentioned (and you may have considered bringing it up yourself (considering you kinda did in the Full-Auto Shotgun episode)) is that, unlike DOOM 2016...your ammo pool isn't all that generous. Nor is there a way to give it basically infinite ammo unless you find an Overdrive powerup. And considering my thought process tends to begin and end with "keep shooting until all organic matter is fused with the wallpaper," using _Eternal's_ Mobile Turret can lead to situations where I suddenly find myself with no ammo. And the risk of that happening is what keeps me from using the mod in the first place. That said, your other points listed are also very valid reasons why this mod just seems kind of "meh." Micro Missiles do about as much damage but aren't resisted, the Plasma Rifle encourages use through Heat Blast (and leads to other combo opportunities), and the Energy Shield is busted beyond belief. Even though it's never going to get buffed, I do like the one idea you threw out about having the heated barrels ignite the ammo, allowing for you to get armor back on kills. Saves you from using your flame belch until you *really* need it, and it could even do just a tiny bit more damage than the Mobile Turret already does. Other than that, lookin' forward to the next one. -Kinda hope it's the Unmaykr.-

[@D356-d6p]

"I don't like to play Overpower weapons, out of Respekt to other Players." - Snipermain

[@Necroxion]

Imagine what kind of field day this guy would have with Warframe Not because there are bad weapons in Warframe, but because Warframe's weapons are almost all unique to the point of synergizing with different builds which demand vastly different playstyles

[@russmastermasterofrusses7463]

"With the mobile turret, you're using the chaingun as a chaingun, to do more chaingun." Hey, that's 40% more chaingun, per chaingun.

[@TheRealNeonwarrior]

I can only imagine how good it could have been if it actually shot 4x the speed of the chaingun like it implies

[@cheezemonkeyeater]

2:35 - Your majesty, where is hell knight? Gone.

[@anndra8687]

You're missing the crucial point: Mobile. Turret. Goes. BRRRRT. One R for each Barrel

[@abdel-azizs5720]

Ok why did i just got attacked? 16:40

[@Zorothegallade-rpg]

"Hey look buddy, I'm a Doom Slayer. That means I solve problems. Not problems like 'what's beauty?', I solve practical problems. Like 'how am I going to stop some big Baron of Hell from tearing me a structurally superfluous new behind?' the answer, use a gun. And if that don't work, use more gun."

[@DinnerForkTongue]

Do you want a long, _long, LONG_ shot suggestion for BWA? Because I have one that fits... The Firemace from Heretic.

[@DarthSateus]

I use the Mobile Turret as kind of a Palate cleanser for my arsenal, mostly for any heavy/super heavy demon that isn't a Marauder, Blood Maykr, or spirit buffed demon. If I'm in the middle of combat quick-swapping the shit out enemies then suddenly a Baron, Dread Knight, etc spawns in the distance, I'm most likely going to swap to MT and deal with the problem before it causes trouble. Chaingun/Heavy Cannon ammo is the ammo-type I worry the least about as I almost always have a large supply on hand, even tho I do lean on the Heavy Cannon and its mods a fair bit. It's a great weapon for when I don't want to think and a high value target just spawned in, especially since it allows me to save shells, rockets and energy weapon ammo for whatever comes after. The stun-lock is easily the best trait it has for that reason. I am aware that shield mod exploits can decimate any and everything, but not only am I not particularly good at it, but I also just can't really fit it into my play-style in a way that feels natural. It's a weapon mod for niche but common scenarios, and has flying colors as a result when used right

[@guiltyshoes]

Mobile Turret is not bad. It shreds heavies even on Nightmare

[@PotatoPatatoVonSpudsworth]

Your sponsor segment reminded me of a fantastic quote from BBC's Lovecraft podcast: "I saw an... angel. Or maybe a demon? Perhaps it was both. Perhaps there is no difference."

[@tjones9097]

The funny thing is it that none of the weapon attachments in doom eternal are bad, they just aren’t useful in every fight. The auto shotgun and the unmakyr are good against super heavies, the microwave beam is op against fast moving high health enemies like the whiplash (I used it in the encounter with the whiplash, the armoured mancubus, and the marauder), the mini rockets are good for knocking armour off enemies before you finish them off, the mid-air detonation is good for taking out multiple crowds of enemies, and the arbalest is good for taking out clusters of flying enemies.

[@RiderOfPeppers]

I was gonna suggest some wild ideia of like fighting game theme for bad char academy but That is alot of work for a genre i don't even know ypu like or not

[@RacingSnails64]

Micro Missiles have good damage and comboability, but they do not falter and cannot break weakpoints. I remember Hugo Martin specifying that in a pre-launch interview. Mobile Turret, on the other hand, as you say later in the video, can full on stunlock enemies at long range. This alone is a great perk, especially when paired with its high damage and ease of use. I love pulling it out when I'm cornered by Barons or stressed out and don't want to do a combo, just melt a big guy or two to gain some space then go back to flying around doing combos. It's my go-to way of taking down Armored Barons. Break their mace, shred them for a few seconds, then finish them off with an SSG blast. It feels really nice. Also, using it on Marauders in double frag combos or after hammer stunning them is very funny lol.

[@nuclearfrog306]

i like that you're diversifying your videos. limiting yourself to tf2 content can cause you to burn out when the same old game eventually gets boring. just do what you like, and others will like it

[@user-xr3tl6qt9m]

not sure if this is your first non tf2 bad weapon academy but i am happy to see you branch out man.

[@rand0mtopg62]

" controller players cant move around as good" *Points to dead k3y*

[@Timeward76]

The movile turret is my favorite mod because it makes me feel so much more dakka, and i never used the energy shield.

[@Nightblade795]

Oh man, same! Just absolutely obliterate something with the sheer amount of lead!

[@tysonvienneau1830]

I use the mobile turret over the shield for two reasons. One: I play casual hurt me plenty, meaning I don't have to sweat to win a fight, meaning I can get away with the mod. Two: It's just fun to mow things down with it, much more than a shield

[@mattiasholm2277]

Image if the mobile turret would deploy into a drone that stuns heavy demons and then kamikaze as its about to run out of ammo. So you could have it doing damage in the background instead.

[@steggoraptor]

To correct your math at the beginning of the video, the combined effect of the 20% damage increase and the 20% faster fire rate is a 44% increase to dps overall. And going from 10 secs to kill to 6.5 secs is actually faster than the 7 sec that mathematically the increase should get you.

[@nacl4988]

"It takes a weapon which already does a lot of damage, Adds a bit more damage, And nothing else. Its basic and does what it should. But that still means it does what it should."

[@diceroanoke7363]

I honestly really like the mobile turret, I’ll have to hear this video out and see why other’s don’t like it.