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0:00 The Praetorian
6:48 Rogal Khorne
12:19 The Inevitable City
16:46 The Iron Cage
29:11 A Broken Primarch

[@GrimDarkHalfOff]

Thanks for having me on brother! Means the world!

[@SandmanofTerra]

Thanks for voicing the Praetorian!

[@seangrey]

literally just heard your voice and was like ''is that actually....'' only to scroll down and see this comment. collabs for the win

[@justsomeguywhoownsacompute9732]

Rogal Dorn lecturing the blood God on seige warfare and ethics feels like the most Rogal Dorn thing I've ever read.

[@wizardjian]

Khorne: Blood for the who? Skulls for the what? Dorn: MILK FOR THE KHORNE FLAKES!!!!

[@thetzarofthemountain8222]

Dorn has built a fort that is so good, even he cannot get out. The front door has two keys that need to be turned at the same time.

[@Humster]

Inb4 the 2 key part was added in by Alpharius and Omegon. 😨

[@stevobraden6205]

@@Humster that would be peak Alphie. I actually want this to be true, otherwise he died like a fool.

[@adrienwatson2179]

Day 1: I am Rogal Dorn, Praetorian of Terra, Primarch of the seventh legion, Imperial Fists. Seventh found son. Defiant and Unyielding Day 109,704 I am....Rogal...Dorn...I think?

[@probablythedm1669]

It would be kind of funny if Rogal Dorn was stuck in some forgotten stasis chamber on the Phalax. Poor guy got stuck teleporting back when he "died", and was basically forgotten in a broom closet for 10 000 years. 😂

[@usurparemagnus]

That’d be utterly terrible and I’m all for it

[@Historyfrek4ever]

He went to take a power nap for couple of centuries in stasis and ordered not to be disturbed. But because of the war of the beast all who knew of it and the records were lost. Unfortunately they put “no entry” sign in the door and nobody has even considered entering because the fists follow orders.

[@KillerOrca]

"I was dead. IN PRETEND"

[@gustavk3227]

😮 10:17 12:41

[@DestronGaming1213]

I honestly think it was genius the way they show off just how much Horus has lost it via how he thinks he’s gonna rebuild the mornivaul with Big E, Dorn, sangy, and Valdor. Not only is he insane to think that they would just turn around and join him,but the thought of “The Emperor being the avatar of Slenaash” is one that could only run through the mind of a madman. 😂

[@briharrisWarhmmer40kfan]

Woah woah woah! Check your privileges please! Big E is entitled to love space poppers and dark age of technology dildos if he so chooses!

[@maglorthearcanist]

Well in his mind was get a vacation for life and finally enjoy yourself for yourself and stop being a creature who live only for mankind.

[@briankeys5941]

??? But he hasn't lost it tho (unless u mean the insane amount of god-tier arrogance, literally, lol). He TRICKED the Big E... the most powerful psyker in 30k, including FORESIGHT, by "losing it." But thats cap, he simply compartmentalized 90% of his power/intelligence over time by playing madness, by masking his warp power/tactical genius, obviously with the backing of the gods. Kinda like Alpharius or Corax, pulling back their presence, to the point the can walk right by an astartes. THATS whats so genius about the writing, imho.

[@similaritiesendhere]

The Emperor is the biggest perfectionist in the galaxy from the psychic projection he creates of himself (massive golden warrior) to his creation of the Custodes/primarchs. Where do you think the primarchs got their personality flaws from?

[@thanhlongngo4229]

"And then daddy will marry the hot lady I saw across the Warp. And then me, daddy, Dornie, Sangie, and uncle Valdie will have fun together forever..."

[@davidpaul1733]

Kind of neat that Rogal's fists get bloody when he punches down the wall. It's almost as if he gets 'Crimson Fists'

[@St1nk3yFing3r]

My working theory for Perty's ascension is that somehow the chaos gods helped him lose control of the obliterator virus and forced him to embrace warp powers to ensure his own survival. No way he would choose to ascend otherwise

[@vlad78th]

The end of the Imperial dream broke Rogal Dorn more than anything else.

[@Kantohammer]

If each of the primarchs get a piece of emperor gear, can they voltron combine into a big e robot? The blood angels are kind of khorne-y at first glance, but remember that sanguinius is constantly fawned over for his beauty, and the legion is also really into art and wine. There’s some slaanesh-y stuff in there.

[@andarchy1386]

Khorne wants Dorn because he's a rapper at heart😂

[@steven1303ss]

I'd love to see an angry bitter Dorn making his own version of the iron cage as a grudge match against Perturabo

[@jgray196]

"Nothing but net." really enjoyed this phraseology about Dorn in the heresy

[@African_Rose]

I have been doing baldurs gate playthroughs as best I can get lore accurate primarchs. My first was as Lorgar and he LOVED the absolute his charisma was off the charts and he'd charm and manipulate people. I've done zomebie raising fungal druid as mortarion scythe included. I'm going to save angron until last i think.

[@leszekwolkowski9856]

Rogal Dorn is actually Polish. He changed his name from Rógał Dornowiecki.

[@kotletschabowy4169]

Would explain why he and his sons are unable to smile

[@MrTrenttness]

🔥🎸🔥 I love Rogal Dorn. My home-brew chapter is an Imperial Fist successor chapter because of that character.

[@nickr0425]

How is a home brew chapter an Imperial fist. Imperial Fists are an official chapter, not a home brew. Do you mean they are IF gene seed?

[@MrTrenttness]

@@nickr0425 Does it make sense now jackass?

[@nait5340]

as far as i'm concerned the iron cage is a happy feel-good story. it's rare that perturabo/the iron warriors really end up on top. iron within, iron without.

[@KillerOrca]

That's what it was written as originally wasn't it? Iron Warrior lore where they legit win

[@andresperedo1275]

They won a bunch of important battles during the Heresy

[@hansgerman3437]

Perty going Demon Prince makes sense, if you consider that Fulgrim stabbed him with THAT sodding blade. It's a means of survival.

[@FireandHonour]

Red: Who's the blood for? Dorn: shall I repeat my Ethics of war PowerPoint?

[@bryanslama2716]

You consistently have some of the most well researched and informative videos on the WH KZbin space. I think a lot of your theories are well thought out and you take a lot of different evidence together to form the most plausible conclusions which is refreshing. So many ppl let their own biases dominate the discussion that it either becomes comical or idiotic. It’s refreshing to see someone finally be honest that the Lion is obviously the best and that Erebus is a aids infested bish. Love the vids, i would love to see a video about any death watch plots or the Omega vault. Also how come there aren’t more “eyes of the emperor” stories ya think ?

[@amirvahdani2059]

One of the saddest moment of HH is when Sigismund tell Dorn 'I'm the Emperor's Champ now." Dorn, exhausted and melancholic after tirelessly leading the defense of Terra only to see that he's losing, feels bereft of one last thing he prided himself in, thinking 'I used to hold that title." Very human thing to feel in that moment imo. Right there with Loken starting to weep for Horus only when he's sure he's alone.

[@DJSkittles365]

Rogal Dorn gets a model of him inside a Dreadnought inside a Rogal Dorn Battle Tank.

[@andyfreeman6865]

I felt pretty stupid when I realized why this video was streamed on Thanksgiving 😂 thanks for the lore

[@hpph7133]

52:00 i reailize i'm not watching live but i do love the idea of Rogl running around the golden throne in penance... perhaps in a stubby centurion armor... BRUVA ALFABUSA 5 EVER!!!1

[@Koolmees12]

Late to the video but in regards to a piece of armour/weaponry for Dawn, I was thinking it could be the eagle standard that adorns Big E's power pack. It could stand in place of the one Dorn already had and offer defensive buffs to Dorn and surrounding troops in game which ties in with his fortress building ability.

[@uncletim1835]

Dorn gets The Emperor's Codpiece!

[@darrellpratt4479]

Just found your channel. Very solid content. Got yourself a new subscriber.

[@codycurtin2295]

YOUR KILLING IT SANDMAN, these videos have been banger after banger. As a person intimate with the lore I think you have some fantastic opinions about the universe.

[@SandmanofTerra]

Thanks man! Means the world to get that kind of comment

[@marksutherlandjr.2121]

Of all the channels I watch. I think this one and the Sand man is the one if I had the choice to just chop it up for an hour or so, he would be the one that I would enjoy talking Lore endlessly with over coffee or drinks.

[@SandmanofTerra]

Haha! If there's one thing I love to do, it's talk Warhammer lore!

[@bergerman1960]

My theory is that Dorn knew the fists were too stubborn to accept the codex and that they were probably going to cause a civil war and basically destroy the imperium in the process. He uses the iron cage as a way to either wipe out the legion in an honourable(ish) last stand, or if they survive, as a way to "decimate" his legion and break their will, kind of like how perty does when he first takes over the iron warriors. I think doing something so fucked up to his own sons is what finally breaks him, and afterwards he basically drops all his marbles and spends all his time torturing himself and trying to get himself killed in glorious combat, kind of like a big ass black templar. Either that or the magic pain glove told him to do it.

[@nomakd3707]

I always like to think that Omegon (Now back to his original name Alpharius, after the real Omegon died to Dorn) hunted Dorn after the Heresy ended, and cut his hand as a callback to how Dorn cuts off his twin's hands, having now the primarch somewhere as his prisoner. Of course, it won't be like that, but it would have been interesting.

[@marinemutualist2153]

The cloak of the emperor hides you from even the gods of chaos. Best way to give the cloak to corvis corax and can lead to him trying to assassinate one of the four chaos gods

[@Vihara2]

Are they EVER gonna tie up all the loose ends? Whatever happened to that rogue AI on mars that was fighting the traitors and chaos? What happened to the mechanicus adept who is the steward of the ctan shard? Has the chaos forces found her?

[@gavinokeeffe598]

Awesome video. I appreciate you and your work greatly

[@SandmanofTerra]

Thanks for watching

[@jamesbaurus5928]

"You're just an idiot standing on the wall" is my favorite line in the entire heresy

[@tcochu]

What Dorn could get: I would love him to get a special Refractor field or something. An Armour that is not visible. Or: He shows up with Constantine Valdor. Not a Real Armour or Fortress but a loyal Brother - they earned each others respect. And the Death of his Fortress and finally his Legion - by his own hands… I would see him return as much as grown up as the Lion. And where Roboute had to Harden, he could soften up. And he would return and maybe he could find his inner Monk, his faith. And follow his Sons wisdom… trusting not in the Build, but the Brother. Trusting not in Arkana but in Faith. And where Roboute is the Logistician, and the Avenging son. And The Lion is the Hunter… The Praetorian could well become the one guarding the Starchild, wearing black armour instead of Gold. And be the Nullmaiden to Magnus’ Super Psyker. Just the line in the red sand he drew back then. Just the one to stubborn to die or give in or admit defeat. But now tempered, humbled and fortifying not walls, but the hearts of Men. The Sword, the Shield, the Faith. You know… Truth, Justice and the Imperial Way… ;)

[@paulprimetime100]

When Dorn comes back, he's going to get the emperor's socks as his bit of daddy's gear. Heard it here first!

[@JoshuaKevinPerry]

Hopefully a tissue

[@Slabbefusk]

Shoutout from the grim frostbitten north of Sweden. Keep it up!

[@harryallen1175]

Khornes plan sounds like Peter Griffin trying to get that kid to 'do math'.

[@mycommentpwnz]

(Okay, I paused the video to write this before I lose the thought, so forgive me if something like this is discussed later in the video.) I know many people dislike Dorn's part in this book, and I understand their point-of-view. In a vacuum, his storyline feels inconsequential. But, I think it's truly BRILLIANT when you consider it in combination with what we know of his FATE. A.) There is a lot of evidence (IRL) that suggests long-term isolation (like solitary confinement in prisons) has an overwhelmingly negative & permanent effect on mental stability. Stated simply: isolation breaks people, and renders them susceptible to engaging in violent outbursts, diminishes reason, etc. B.) Dorn, after the Heresy, orders Guilliman to NOT ASSIST HIM on a dangerous mission (when going-after Pertie.) Then, Dorn willingly walks into a trap, a trap set-by Pertie, one of the most talented engineers in the galaxy. Brilliant. C.) Consequently, this long-term isolation in the desert neatly explains WHY Dorn goes "berserker mode" after the Heresy. Yes, Dorn is always shown to be brimming with anger, but he is also practical, rational, and caring about the lives of his sons.

[@klosharr]

32:19 isn't it that after that whole 'almost getting sacrificed for fulgrims ascension' incident, Perty started to slowly die? because then him becoming a daemon primarch is just a desperation for keep living

[@davidthompson5695]

Give Russ’s spear to Rogal dorn who defends Terra and let him take charge of the custody and would look so cool. Give Russ the claw

[@Adonzin]

I'm not saying sandman and valrak are the same person... but I've never seen them in the same room together.

[@AlfieVsLion]

This one speaks proper English though, and isn’t extremely irritating, but still well informed 😂😂

[@tcochu]

You described Dorn and I do love him from The Heresy. And it sounded like you described Batman. There Clicked something: We all call Conny K. The Batman of the Bunch but as always: That’s not Totally the Truth. The Hyper-prepared and trusted by Gods aspekt of the Dark Knight, and then again the Stoic “We do it my way or you can take a hike” stuff… totally Batman as well… Really fun, how much archetype these characters are. Love it 🥰

[@LordKingKamiGuru]

I hope we find out that Perturabo's ascension went wrong and he now is patient zero of the Obliterator virus.

[@chinmaymenon887]

Royal Dorn is the King in Yellow😂😂

[@milkydude3100]

If there's one Primarch i love to hear about and relate to, it's Poor Rogal

[@bryanslama2716]

Man. I think your right on the money about JK returning next. GW has a guaranteed hit with a redone SW line so they’re not gonna do that quite yet. Then CC, they already dropped some with the scouts KT to test the water. Plus they also can battle Drukhari…

[@chrisandrews9856]

Dorns (current canon) actions during the Iron Cage Incident might not be in line with Dorn, but it sure is in line with *Khorne* - not leaving the battlefield, demanding honourable combat - they could easily stick close to the extisting lore whilst embellishing around the edges. I do like the idea of only his hand being left behind after being pulled through a portal, do we currently have any Primarchs taking direct action against Khorne? I dont know enough to make any grounded statements so im struggling to make the next mental step, as someone who is an adept at fortifying it seems unlikely that Dorn would take the fight to Khorne directly, especially as Khornes whole thing is fighting, but he could be building something around him, or a trap for him in some way.

[@sixpathskaiokentv]

Fists and Dorn himself likewise are masters of siege warfare in general, they just have a particular propensity towards defending. Fortification isn't his only shtick lol

[@sixpathskaiokentv]

But I do love the Khorne portal theory, neat idea

[@scottbannerman1624]

Such a wholesome chap

[@Peter-by3ox]

you have a fantastic voice - have thought of doing fan readings of novels? Brilliant channel good sir

[@SandmanofTerra]

Thanks man! I will look into it

[@timsmith5335]

I think that from all the plans Dorn draws up on the wall, he wrote out his own demise in the iron cage. Pert just came upon the plans Dorn wrote out and uses them against him.

[@MrAbraxus666]

RE - Terminator Plate - So remember the Terminator Plate isn't made from any part of Big E's armour. The Crux Terminatus on the shoulder, however, is. That could be a single molecule, so there could be loads left or they could just retcon the CT to give a different benefit and make it rarer.

[@SeanHoltzman]

Perturabo bring a giant Iron Circle Darmon Engine + Helldrake/trad dragon... maybe a throwback to old Dragon Centaurs? 😂

[@davidgardiner2373]

Doombreed and Nkari were stated as being on-board the Vengeful Spirit so maybe Dorn fights one of them. I think Doombreed is more likely since he's a daemon Prince of khorne and Dorn has just rejected khorne.

[@jishani1]

Plot armor: The Primarch. the "i fortify bases" primarch just happens to not be inside any of his fortifications, the entire thing he's good at. and beat the im 3 steps ahead of everyone else primarch in a fight inside his own ship surrounded by his own men. Makes zero sense

[@J0113]

"Just say it... Say it... Say who the blood is fo-..." "CIRCA 300 M1...."

[@ayaannair2447]

i do wonder if its not so much a case of Perturabo "Ascending" to daemonhood as much as he simply resembles his brother daemon princes in terms of raw power that he is mistaken as such? Last i remember, Perturabo was interred in a primarch sized dreadnaught from the wound dealt to him by Fulgrim. It would make sense for him to imbue warp power into a suit of armor to keep himself alive while he uses it as a mobile life support system/fuck everything in that direction button. He may even have a deal with Vashtorr to supply the technology or resources needed for such a suit. another cool idea would be for two primarchs to make their return together, one chaos and one loyal. For example, if perturabo is primarily dying from poison/chaos corruption then he'd have reason to seek out Nurgle and use the Eldar goddess he captured to heal himself, at the same time it could reintroduce the MIA Leman Russ, who is persumable searching for the same goddess to fix the emperor. it would sufficiently shake up the setting while also giving a win by Leman failing to free the goddess but Perturabo still being healed, and thus returning to combat. it also brings an interesting internal conflict as we know Fulgrim is on the top of the Peter Turbo shitlist

[@angelotana3040]

Hey bro. I love your work! You think there is any chance to get SuperAnchors to voice Dorn in the future? His name is Admiral Burke, or Superanchors (now) and he is literally mine (and most 40k fans) head Canon dorn voice. He's the voice from TTS, and I'm sure he would do it...if asked. He said he never gets asked for appearances on remliez podcast. Please please let dorn shine, reading your amazing work and literally embodying Dorn

[@steveharrison76]

@24:30 - isn’t that a lamenters helmet? Don’t worry though… we get that a lot… ;D (lamenters collector here XD)

[@thesistersofbattle]

Dorn is going to come back with an actual Imperial Fist.

[@johnxiii660]

Dear Rogal Go crazy, I'll always save you. Roboute

[@ScottAT]

This is the battle of the Chosin Reservoir told in 40K fashion. Korean War.

[@user-io6mv8jc7k]

In the original lore rhogal dorne dies after boarding a chaos ship full of khorne demons and after lots of killing basically just got to to depressed gave in and let himself be killed..

[@theaholio7037]

peterturbo was tricked by Fulgrim into basically having his soul ripped out.

[@ThorMan91587]

47:00 the Fists are all about their gun lines and enfilading bolter salvos. I'd bet real cash monies that Dorn gets Daddy's bolter. That may be a bit underwhelming, but I feel it in my bones. Plus, old lore (so obviously prone to redaction) is every Crux Terminatus crest has a small sliver of the Emperors ruined plate, thus further bolstering the armors protection. I'd doubt there's too much of the armor left to hand out. Of course to me that begs the question of what Vulkan or the Khan get when they show up.

[@zacharymassey6487]

I'm currently going through the horus heresy, i haven't read these books yet, going through the read order, ATM in on garo and they just found locan. However going based off khorne wanting him.... would the red angel (not angron i mean the blood angel rage angel) make more sense, i may have forgotten or just not know but to my knowledge we don't know what happens to it after it shows up at horus after sangy told him to go.... until an inquisitior finds him in 40k

[@OfficialChrissums]

I dont get why Perturabo is so disliked in the fandom imo hes the most interesting traitor primarch

[@RaynmanPlays]

>"Dorn might be in the throne room" >TFW TTS called it

[@travisadams9268]

With you on Corvus getting the claw. I do not think the claw fits Dorn. I could see him getting like a gauntlet of the emp or somethinf.

[@famishedpaladin2231]

Any primarch can beat any other primarch. They are at such a level that our comprehension of fighting cant fathom. There are three primarchs that were a cut above, and ferrus, horus and sanguinius are long dead.

[@rain89skarlet80]

ferrus?realy? wtf ferrus was the worst primarch (thanks to the writing tbh)...he good fooled by a minor xenos-human allianz, got beaten twice by fulgrim, he was an idiot and unlike angron he had no butchernails in his head.

[@princeeclipse12]

Accidentally asending "no no no no no no no no wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait..." - The Punisher

[@danielrashkov4344]

Dorn is proof that autism is the best weapon against chaos.

[@a.N.....]

It's pretty obvious, he's perfect in defense, a Goomba in assaults

[@AxylsAngel]

Imagine if dorn isn't dead but when he was overwhelmed by the chaos marines he finally gave in

[@soldier-qb1dm]

As a dark angels fan I would love to see a model of old man lion with the lion sword along with a redeemed cypher and maybe even a redeemed Luther

[@soldier-qb1dm]

If Luther could even be redeemed at this point

[@soldier-qb1dm]

I also don't ever want them to make the lion younger again I think the age shows how he's gotten wiser not that he's slower or weaker angron learned that the hard way

[@bruceyoung4777]

Lol, dorn becomes a wall after being in the warp to long. Or a lifting crane

[@waynehaygood3122]

If you think about it Dorn is a defense breaker so he would actually be deadly in melee combat given time he should be able to beat all his brothers, and he is a master of defense so he should also have that time during the fight just saying if written right Dorn is deadly, and I am a Vulcan fan saying this!!!$$$+++

[@plaugemarine]

If Perterabo bsomes a Demon Prince. It will have no imagination in it and he will look like himself only bigger and with horns.

[@gplog7197]

Do not let Dorn come back a traitor I will damn him for eternity

[@Contekar]

Rogal Dorn = King in Yellow. Valdor went with him to build the emperor's new army.

[@bruceyoung4777]

Also on the cancer comment. Most cancer is fatal to the host if not checked. Very rare is the cancer that leaves the body of the host and survives in infect other things. There is a case of this happening is dogs however

[@jaygee9725]

Yey, Bike.

[@Lightblessins]

dorn should return with a re-grow hand empowered by all the dead chapter masters that died and names are on his skeleton fist.

[@houston_8730]

Couldn't the Imperial Fists just have laid cyclonic exterminatus on Sebastius IV upon arriving in orbit uncontested? I am pretty new to the 40k setting, so my knowledge about the lore still has some weak points. I don't really understand the process of commiting Exterminatus, so If someone could help me out?

[@kingdragong-rh6dl]

at this point i believe that the only way that the Emperor can defeat Horus is because somehow after beating up the Emperor, for a short period Horus comes to his senses and Chaos's grasp on him weaken and he lets the Emperor kill him or he hesitates so the Emperor uses the opportunity to finish him off!! the way the story is heading right now there is no way the Big E can defeat juiced up Horus fair and square!!!

[@CputtockDthomson]

Can you cover the T'au Ethereal Aun Shi. I'm trying to figure out if he's still alive in the setting and what he's doing

[@SandmanofTerra]

Sure! He has some fun lore

[@rhysmaketa4187]

The sacrifice of 400 Imperial Fists' geneseed seems kind of cheap for ascension to daemonhood.

[@mereg-ys9ut]

I just like perti too much, he always fascinates me

[@BedlamBoy1978]

I love Rogal Dorn

[@omnissiah5382]

I don’t think he is dead. He is probably being held prisoner somewhere.

[@maglorthearcanist]

The iron warrior planet, tortured by playing rts against perturabo since the first black crusade.

[@thetzarofthemountain8222]

Or he has built a fort so good, he cannot get out

[@primkup]

Back in that desert, I guess.

[@ScottAT]

So basically when the emperor returns he is going to come back as Scrooge McDuck huh

[@gabzsy4924]

I don't know about the writhing of this lore piece. Sanguinius representing Nurgle, The Emperor Slaneesh, a Custodes Tzeentch and Dorn Khorne?! This feels wrong in so many ways, I mean, first of all, placing the Emperor and a Custodes on the same level and position is just plain wrong, but even if you do, it's just really poorly missmatched. Sanguinius would obviously represent Khorn, as stated, The Emperor Tzeentch for the same reason given on the video....he's a planner, he has a lot of plans and he see the future and tries to change it. Dorn would probably be the more Nurgle out of the bunch, he's resilient, strict to rules and dosn't really like stray too far from protocols, thus having stagnation elements already in himself. Slaneesh...honestly thinking of any of these individuals as representing Chaos is Heresy and wrong anyway, but I can't see any of them representing lust, pleasure and desire.

[@painlord2k]

What if Dorn saw the bodies of his sons in the Desert. The dead on the Vengeful Spirit & the bodies of the ones fighting in the Iron Cage.

[@hubertcumberdale6404]

Rogal Dorn sounds like one of Derek Zoolander’s looks

[@amanofnoreputation2164]

I think Vulkan should get something from the Emperor that's more abstract. Because he can already craft powerful artefacts that may one day exceed the capacity of even his Father's mastery and knowledge, and moreover inheirted the Emperor's aveternal nature; his status as a true perpetual rather than simply being genecrafted to live a long time. In Captain Planet, there's a punch of different rings that represent elements and then there's one guy who's power is "heart." I think that's what Vulkan should get; he should get a revelation from the Numen; the Emperor's divine agape, that empowers him in some way that parralells the physical artefacts He left behind. It would fit his personality as the Salamander primarch.

[@jackp492]

I imagine rogal dorn boring the blood god is like rimmer reading his risk campaign book in red dwarf

[@JoshuaKevinPerry]

Yeah, he goes from Rogal Dorn to Rogal Dumas

[@pablonunalvares5391]

Nothing says Dorn like boring Khorne into giving up his soul...