Man I really appreciate the showing of the use of a heat gun. I’ve always used a torch but a heat gun seems so much controllable and cleaner. I like it. I’ll be added a heat gun in the home shop for sure
@dakotacornell233 Жыл бұрын
One of the best ways I have found to test for the weakest point in an arrow shaft (like with your ram tester) is as follows: Put a field point in each end of the arrow shaft, put the arrow in between your bow press arms, and press the arrow until it flexes. The arrow will flex toward the weakest part in the shaft. After it flexes in that direction, align it vertically so that the arrow flex is like a rainbow, and mark the top of the arrow. Rinse and repeat. Even testing this with bare shaft tuning afterward, bow press shaft testing has basically eliminated the need for me to bare shaft tune.
@kasette8212 Жыл бұрын
I'll Test IT
@kasette8212 Жыл бұрын
Im not gonna lie, this works somehow. i tested 2 arrows and there were pretty close to my marks. I will use the Cornell method now to double check or pre check my marks. Thanks a lot
@dakotacornell233 Жыл бұрын
@@kasette8212 thanks for testing it out! It's not 100% perfect, but it saves a lot of time in nock tuning
@blakeumthun8128 Жыл бұрын
I get sick to my stomach when I think about busting or losing a $40 arrow. I can't even fathom a $90 arrow. I like the use of the heat gun. Gonna give that a try instead of the torch.
@jaredj631 Жыл бұрын
This is the type of concise Contant I was hoping for once the split happened. Less unscripted goofing around and more Longform curated information. Keep it up Dan.
@darkwandervids6717 Жыл бұрын
I like the conciseness too but the antics of the unscripted goofing off is what makes the channel seem like they are just regular people who are providing us with great information and a entertaining video to watch
@romanracela Жыл бұрын
$80? Holy guacamole! I'm a no on that dog! 🤣
@MatthewC137 Жыл бұрын
You're doing exactly what I switched to last summer except my arrows are the awesome Victory VAP TKO (4mm). I would advise getting your glue and insert just hot enough because it is easy to get it much hotter than necessary which can be bad for your carbon arrow. I know from experience that "just hot enough" holds just as well and I've never had one come out in a target. Iron Will components are great and I love the single bevel broadheads.
@T-Mak-s7x7 ай бұрын
Dang add a lighted nock might as well try to get it over $100. I thought I was bad at about $56. That arrow build is so cool. But dang I’d be making darn sure I had a tree or a hill behind the animal I was shooting at to stop my pass thru so I could find the darn thing. I’d look long and hard if I shot that thru an animal. Probably look for multiple days. With a metal detector.
@bulltroutoutdoors9440 Жыл бұрын
Those are gonna be awesome kill sticks. I went all out last year on the Black Eagle X-impact 250’s with: Elkshape vanes, steel inserts and outserts, and Iron will single bevel 150’s. The ASD Flip is SO important (black ovis doesn’t square the ends). Ive been incredibly happy with my choices!
@coltadams8240 Жыл бұрын
Went with the 4mm Axis match grade this year with the Iron Will components. Those iron will field tips are insanely tough! Debating on trying the Broad heads as well but having a hard time going away from the Sevr 1.5” Titanium.
@saskhuntsman2980 Жыл бұрын
I ran the 4mm Nexxus arrow last year. Insert/outsert component bent on my whitetail. This Snyder system looks really sturdy!
@mattgoin Жыл бұрын
A little to expensive for my blood! Appreciate the work put into it, but I have never had a problem with the way I've done my arrows and now way you can shoot good enough to tell in my opinion. Thanks for sharing Dan, love the content
@jordang9416 күн бұрын
What a beautiful set up , it is literally just a beautiful arrow !
@Bowhunter66 Жыл бұрын
Great build, simple and straight forward. Wish they would have had KZbin when I first started Bowhunting. Enjoy watching the next generation so excited about archery and much more willing to share your knowledge. Older archer like myself actually learns a new trick or two. I personally enjoy the content you bring. Keep it coming!
@bdubs1010 Жыл бұрын
Man I wanted to shit on this when I first saw it. But upon my better judgement I watched to the end. 99% of shooters, these wouldn’t make a difference and they would never pay for these. But for the 1% that it would make a difference and they would pay… it’s your money so more power to you and you do you bro. Sweet setup. The other 99%… shoot what you want and spend your money on what’s important to you. I’m sure we would all be better off taking time working on our form until we surpass the capabilities of our setup. Truth is, most of us already use gear that’s way above our abilities and the only thing holding us back is us.
@thedriftlessdrifter Жыл бұрын
I have almost the exact same build. I used the Sirius Orions and AAE Max Stealth vanes, plus Nockturnal nocks. They're pricy, but they give me huge confidence and I think that's worth a lot.
@swamibr0 Жыл бұрын
Love this set up. Personally, I’m running the Valkyries which are very similar. I love the Iron Will set up. I just suck at sharpening, single bevel broadheads.
@bbrinkley77 Жыл бұрын
i ran valkaryie for a bit but endeedup switching to rip tko and exodus broadheads mainly due to on the shelf availability. how is the valkryie system treating you
@swamibr0 Жыл бұрын
@@bbrinkley77 I love them. The paper wheel sharpening system is idiot proof (since I can use it). They’re tough, tolerances are really good, love the field tips too.. they’re just expensive 😅
@DecisiveOutdoors Жыл бұрын
Cool video! I personally like the concept of the 4mm shafts. Been shooting the 4mm FMJs. No complaints on my end. I’ve heard people say they aren’t very accurate. Groups and results speak for themselves. I have them paired with the Easton titanium outserts. So I have more of the budget build of what you have going on here.
@yasotay Жыл бұрын
Most people have never heard of Bishop handmade arrows. Their much more than than the Easton.
@josephtreadlightly5686 Жыл бұрын
There is 2 types of expensive. Paying good money for something that is good except there might be some structural integrity problems in the future. Or buy something great that will last 10 times as long with more durability. But that worries some in the archery industry who depends on people buying new every year, especially broadheads.
@royhoglund1322 Жыл бұрын
Good morning Dan! The Pro Comp is a terrific arrow and one I've used for tournament archery. I'm pretty sure I'm not a good enough shooter to tell the difference but the specs for hunting are intriguing, especially at my draw weight and length. I'm loving the ABT mindset. Also, just a quick note, THANK YOU FOR ELKSHAPE CAMP! For me it was many things, but most importantly it was a gut check at life! Stop, start, modify and always ABT!
@ElkShape Жыл бұрын
Hopping on a plane to head home - thanks for coming Roy! #ABT ...I wanna be like you when I grow up! -DS
@royhoglund1322 Жыл бұрын
@@ElkShape You'll be better! 😀
@YonderWizerd Жыл бұрын
Arizona ez jigs are awesome! If anyone is thinking about it, do it! I now have a blitzenberger paper weight.
@paulshumate2904 Жыл бұрын
Those pro comps remind of my all time favorite arrow which is no longer made and that's the Easton ACC .. To me it was one of the Best hunting arrows ever made.. Great content keep up the great work
@ramzeygardiner8838 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for all you do.im looking forward to it
@ADMulhearn Жыл бұрын
Surprised you went without pin nocks. That would add a bit to each arrow price and protect the tail of the arrow…
@blakebrown1559 Жыл бұрын
I won’t go this far in depth, but this year I’m running the Easton axis 260 5mm with the iron will broadheads. I can’t wait!
@thecoldrensfurfishandfeathersl Жыл бұрын
Wow great information! it well be interesting to see if you can tell a difference, I'm working on figuring out what my set up will be this up coming season
@benjaminmonteros6366 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video Dan! Really appreciate you buddy as you always have great and positive videos 👍
@SheepdogConservation Жыл бұрын
I dig the whole system very cool stuff! Just finished the podcast where your guest was nerding out on the procomps and I was convinced to lighten my arrows! Going from 11.2gpi day six to 8.1gpi black eagle and hoping that it still likes the 150gr Valkyrie blood eagle upfront!! You already know I can't wait for the Valkyrie one!
@MichaelKeane-vm2mj Жыл бұрын
more than likely to penetrate deeper in a foam style target. but isn’t going to be any deeper in an animal than a standard diameter arrow. big sharp hunk of metal is doing all the work not the arrow diameter. in my non professional opinion of course.
@5MinuteMaj0r Жыл бұрын
Looking for that Elkshape discount code for Iron Will Outfitters….take my money.
@EthanPageHunter Жыл бұрын
Very interested to see how the 4mm work on the mountain. I’m optimistic and like the concept. Can we see some speeds from these arrows in the near future?
@sapperROSS Жыл бұрын
I have a 4mm x impact, they penetrate top much and it's annoying sometimes. I'll never go back to normal arrows for hunting.
@ElkShape Жыл бұрын
Coming soon!
@sapperROSS Жыл бұрын
For speeds my x impacts are 436g, 29 draw. Elite ritual 33 290fps with 75% let off 70lbs. 90% let off 284fps
@Will_Osborne Жыл бұрын
Another great video! I appreciate your level of honesty in all the areas where it matters but no one really knows if it does or not. I binged elk shape faster than any other TV show. Keep up the great content and elk hunting videos.
@bradg4930 Жыл бұрын
Spends at least $700 on arrow setup, "its a good candidate for being in my quiver". Love it
@Whatthensayyou Жыл бұрын
So I heard the first 10 comments will get one of these expensive arrows! Nah just picking on ya, like the build up. I was just complaining over on Archery Talk about the Iron Will Arrows aka Easton Axis and AAE with IW Components. Can't wait to see your take on these, always tinkering so those of us who don't have the budget can make informed decisions! Keep after it!
@Allegiance_Outdoors Жыл бұрын
What was your “complaint” with the IW arrows? Same complaint with the TAC LRPs?
@TYB4393 ай бұрын
Did the nock tuning correlate with the spine testing from the Ram Arrow Spine Tester?
@lucasshaver754 Жыл бұрын
Crazy that tac vanes releases an arrow setup that sells for pretty much the same price as this.
@JodyHand Жыл бұрын
I shoot VAP SS 350 with Iron Will Wides 125 and 55 grain Easton half outs. I would like to see you shoot some and see what you think. Thanks
@Wabblewater22 Жыл бұрын
Have used hot melt for over 40 yrs of assembling arrows. Can tune broad hds or remove inserts and replace. Perfection is great. But at what price? And will u see a diff? Most archers won't!
@ElkShape Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing
@wesleyallen1214 Жыл бұрын
I appreciate you spending the money. I can’t, but I enjoy see the top of the line tested! Great video
@drakeolsen2682 Жыл бұрын
Excited to see it, not a fan of the 5 day premier time, im just not interested in things i cant see right now in my feed.
@ElkShape Жыл бұрын
Setting up the new regular schedule for drops. This will be the new cadence… Sundays 4pm PST. Im flying out tomorrow for an ElkShape Camp and won’t be home til Sunday
@respawn6606 Жыл бұрын
@@ElkShape lusk archery is a broad head testing channel that uses them they seem legit and strong as steal
@YonderWizerd Жыл бұрын
I’ve been waiting all week for this!haha
@ElkShape Жыл бұрын
Hope you enjoyed it!
@mikebarriga Жыл бұрын
I don’t understand why we’re taking time to spine all the arrows and then going straight in to nock tuning? Help me understand please.
@masongardiner5399 Жыл бұрын
Aren’t the Easton 4mm not supposed to have a weak side of the spine due to them being a weave.
@trckn_151 Жыл бұрын
Here I'm thinking $12-$15 per arrow was too much. But $80 per? Those better be homing / guided arrows that never miss. To me it just add more preasure on top of the preasure of making the shot. The pucker factor of missing and lodging one in a tree or bouncing one off a rock would be too much. Hope they shoot the way you are expecting them to and you can actually see the difference between them and a less expensive arrow.
@manuelchaidez1561 Жыл бұрын
that is one sexy AF arrow. I like Bishop arrows personally.
@joewatts1598 Жыл бұрын
Have you tried the ironwill build arrows they sell and there veins. Just wondering how they compare. Thanks for the video
@oldpapawwithastrat9384 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the upload. It hurts to lose a $15 arrow. I know, don’t miss and you won’t lose it. Lol
@HighDesertAdventurer Жыл бұрын
Just received hot melt from Ironwill last Monday. I don't believe I'll go back to epoxy. The hot melt has won me over.
@mattmeraw6564 Жыл бұрын
Great video! I have recently bought the Iron will components to shoot in the RIP TKO this year. I was thinking of hot melting in. Do your broadheads and field points spin in and out now or do you need to heat them every time to go to change the point?
@bmook019 Жыл бұрын
What hot melt and heat source is that? I love my pro comps for target archery. I love that a majority of their arrows are American made.
@hoganfan2006 Жыл бұрын
He said hotmelt was from Iron Will’s website, and the heat gun looks like a Milwaukee.
@deanbrantley Жыл бұрын
As someone who shot Acc and FMJ for years I’ll never shoot an arrow with aluminum anywhere in it. Just shooting groups alone will ruin them and you need to inspect every arrow in the group after you shoot them. Hate to say it DS, but this was an expensive mistake. But hey, I’ll keep doing me, good luck.
@finq0997 Жыл бұрын
the FMJ T64 are even more expensive than ProComps, but there's no way they're better! The insert system maybe, but not the shaft.
@DB.KOOPER Жыл бұрын
Sirius Arrows... game over.
@NeilEubank Жыл бұрын
Do a video review on Levi Morgan’s lrp arrow setup!
@newzealandspotlightersasso9181 Жыл бұрын
Will be interesting to see how you like the Easton's bro
@gorankorovljevic810 Жыл бұрын
You guys are lucky in US,these shaft's and archery equipment is twice more expensive in Europe(Germany)
@BergyBowsmith Жыл бұрын
Could be more expensive with foc king arrows , and bishop broadhead . Just saying the bishop broadhead is like 300 for one head
@dennisstolte1103 Жыл бұрын
Great video. Why the left offset?
@ElkShape Жыл бұрын
Like I said in the video - my arrows orient out of my bow to the left... I'm not 100% convinced that matters by the way, but I was trying to do an OCD arrow build for y'all! -DS
@jackbuendgen389 Жыл бұрын
Guys thats $960 for a dozen! 😱
@pikdiesel Жыл бұрын
Crazy.... I like it!
@rfcorreiaiv Жыл бұрын
it will be interesting to see if there is a big difference.
@ElkShape Жыл бұрын
Agreed! -DS
@jeffrossi3645 Жыл бұрын
dan, what weight did you go with for the broadhead/fieldpoint??
@jamesonlee2594 Жыл бұрын
It would make more since to square off the nock end. If you're going to do only one side.
@papaschuette Жыл бұрын
And I thought my $15 a piece arrows were expensive. I am considering upgrading from the Gold Tip Hunter XT 340's to their Force F.O.C. arrows or their Airstrikes. Or maybe switching brands all together and going to like an Easton Axis Pro Match Grade 5mm or RIP TKO's. Not really sure yet. Opening day is September 15th here in Indiana, so I have plenty of time. #ElkShape #ABT
@danielfrazier547 Жыл бұрын
Great work!
@NimrodArchery Жыл бұрын
Easton Archery’s plays the 51% rule with carbon arrows to say that they are made in the USA due to EPA laws and OSHA no carbon shafts can be made in the USA companies use the 51% rule. Easton Archery aluminum arrows on the other hand are made in house.
@blakepetersen2509 Жыл бұрын
What spine were those in?
@calvinfisher- Жыл бұрын
Is the ram spine tester accurate!? An worth the money ?
@jaredj631 Жыл бұрын
Premieres in five days?
@ElkShape Жыл бұрын
That's going to be the NEW drop zone for our long form content going forward! -DS
@michaelvstheworld3680 Жыл бұрын
Unless it is a Bishop shaft and head it is NOT "the world's most expensive arrow". I bought two dozen Procomps three years ago and using a 250 shaft, Ethics components, and Blazer vanes came out to be about $33 a arrow without a head.
@MidwestBowAndArrow Жыл бұрын
holy $$$$$ the price of those Bishops!
@ElkShape Жыл бұрын
I was Today's year old when I heard about Bishops - they look like they're sold out for 2023 and their website might have been built in 1999 haha! Would love to know more! -DS
@michaelvstheworld3680 Жыл бұрын
@@ElkShape GloryNock has the best .166 lighted nock, trust me.
@MusukeD Жыл бұрын
Awesome video! I can say, that the shaft is worth the money! If you want to make it even more expensive: buy some lighted nocks from Firenock 😂
@aarongoeppner413 Жыл бұрын
Now that is a set of arrows lol!!!
@Thedudeabides803 Жыл бұрын
Well if I’m going to spend lots of money, it will be on my hobbies
@oliviabalch3144 Жыл бұрын
I built the same arrow except I used axis and now I feel I may have bought better than I needed
@mattstoney397 Жыл бұрын
victory vap tko and sirius orions are a great option and dont cost as much
@brockpeck7073 Жыл бұрын
So are vector zmr's
@realwilliamreid Жыл бұрын
Definitely could have gone more expensive with the nocks and field points which would easily push that price over $100 per arrow.
@tkodnz Жыл бұрын
Have you tried any of the fireknock vanes?
@jamesjgill Жыл бұрын
You look like you have made a really good quality arrow. Have you tried using a Bitzenburger jig? You have a system now, and it seems to be working for you. I am just saying maybe you would like it. I look forward to your next video.
@ElkShape Жыл бұрын
I own 3 bitz jigs! 1 of the 3 is my favorite and marked as such. Great for 2 degree offsets.
@h-minus2212 Жыл бұрын
I second the sentiment of some of the other commenters - I will spend money on my hobbies to the degree I want, as long as I don't mortgage my family's future. It will be great to see how much better these arrows perform, if at all, when compared to your previous setups. Luckily, I am satisfied with my $35 arrows, but if I wasn't - the wallet would come out until I was satisfied. Otherwise, why even work. Good luck this fall.
@cozycare1655 Жыл бұрын
Boujee! Hehe can’t wait Bruddah 😎🤙🏽
@ApexPredatorOutdoors Жыл бұрын
Not too bad… Better than buying some Bishop archery arrows. Shafts are $1399 a dozen. Add lighted nocks and broad heads….
@oldfatnugly Жыл бұрын
they got some affordable broadheads at $250 a 3 pack lmfao. thats for the peasentry though, you gotta get the $700 ones if you dont wanna get laughed out of the hunting club
@andrewmcgaha9629 Жыл бұрын
We want results. And by we, I mean me. Can’t wait to see if you see a difference vs RIP’s.
@ElkShape Жыл бұрын
Gonna get to the bottom of it - DS
@tannervanasten Жыл бұрын
now this is that shit I'm here for, lets go with the high dollar hand loads!
@thomasvanderhoff768 Жыл бұрын
Go to fleet farm buy some gold tip arrows,fly like darts.
@dananderson8192 Жыл бұрын
Gotta be Bishops
@LongPinesArchery Жыл бұрын
Laughs in Bishop Archery arrows. Once you use Bishop, then you can claim most expensive arrow.
@Raga985 Жыл бұрын
You beat me to that comment. Just one broadhead cost more
@joegarrigues3697 Жыл бұрын
I think the keyword is "my."
@chris_2413 Жыл бұрын
I’d kill for some bishops
@LongPinesArchery Жыл бұрын
@@joegarrigues3697 he said world's in the vid.
@silentassassin1108 Жыл бұрын
Sweet arrows but I don’t think I could bring myself to shoot groups with $80 errors. I paid $80 for a half dozen and was pretty upset when I robin hooded one of them.
@tristantuthill8580 Жыл бұрын
Hell yeah Dan!! Went to Tassy back home for a week come back your @ 80 subs buthaaaa!! C’mon!!! Almost there now ledge, love this!! But i realm did think you were going out back to let a few off and show us how horrible your groups were 🤣🤣 or played it right leave us hanging… we will see I’m sure but only if your a sub I guess so give us what you know we love LET EM RIP!
@jasondlion Жыл бұрын
God dam 80$ a arrow don't miss the target dan! That's some joel turner in your ear just knowing that $
@jebstuart1323 Жыл бұрын
Hmm..I feel kinda cheap looking at my Easton 6.5's and titanium inserts I machined at work out of scraps we had left over.
@theingobeck4772 Жыл бұрын
Take one of those 6.5s and flex it then spin it on an arrow spinner. You'll be shocked at what happens.
@jimr7154 Жыл бұрын
Hmmm 🤔 I’ve got a 1/2 dozen RIP TKOS I’d be willing to try the iron will system with What size collar did you use again? Can you use regular AAE inserts glue? The pro comp arrows Lol Won’t be buying those anytime soon lol I don’t deserve them Like you ABT currently shooting victory VAP TKO found by accident about a year ago at XSpot Archery in Attleboro ma one day Prior to that strictly Easton guy But always looking for better 4 mm set up Similar draw length and arrow length to you Only my TRIAX is 60 lbs at 63 that’s enough on my old shoulders lol Only hunt white tail so lol I’m good
@ElkShape Жыл бұрын
I used 10 grain titanium collar from Ironwill - I liked the hot melt program for sure... like I said, that was my first time doing that and it was very painless! -DS
@SomeGuyFromOK Жыл бұрын
I COMPLETELY understand using expensive arrows, but the components cost twice as much as the arrow. You could ruin 2 arrows and still break even with cheaper components. I haven’t wrapped my head around that, yet. Honestly, a half dozen of these cost just a little bit less than my bow setup did when I bought it. Will that kill you an extra elk per season? I don’t know, but if I could afford it and didn’t mind all the work, that’s a cool arrow!
@stick__shooter Жыл бұрын
Overkill for sure. Nice setup, though.
@williambowfishing5 ай бұрын
Just finished my 1/2dz arrows for 2024 whitetails. $87ea😅
@LifeintheWildernessAK Жыл бұрын
Those aren't going to work... Just send them to me... We have the same arrow length. Hahaha
@ecrank833 ай бұрын
Bishop arrows are a lot more.. Lol
@chetmanley2883 Жыл бұрын
I would literally get sick if I broke or lost one of these 😂
@Pariscj Жыл бұрын
Carbon express triads
@aaronbuehler1270 Жыл бұрын
just a whitetail guy fro, ohio buy yeah that arrow costs more than the processing fee...