Painting 2 Models that are TOO BIG for Wargaming

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[@EonsOfBattle]

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[@nofuxgivens2797]

I've found that using less flow improver and more thinner has helped my prime with airbrush game. Seems like where paint got a lil thick, the prime was weakest

[@nofuxgivens2797]

Magnetize the fly base at the belly of the ship using 2 or 3 strong magnets in line or triangle so it doesn't spin. Weigh the base down heavy. If done right it won't tip over it'll seperate/fold over at the mate up point slowing it and reducing falling distance. Have you ever seen the glued on fly base tip, then someone tries to stop it by pushing down on the base edge that's lifted?....only to leverage swing it back even faster to flip over his hand or the inertia snaps the base off and the model is now flying off the table..😅😅😅I've done it and seen it lol it sucks ass

[@buckleyourpants6509]

@EonsOfBattle do you have a Telegramm Account or is there a scammer in your KZbin comment section?

[@Badman-so5kg]

@@buckleyourpants6509 yeah, i wondered this…

[@daynoart]

i cant say i miss the 40k on your channel - games workshop cant contain your miniature-painting skills!!!

[@skullforge986]

Awesome! Thank you for using some of our sculpts to take your vehicles to the next level!

[@ChampstylesTLT]

SkullForge rocks!! 🤘🤘🤘

[@danielmynett1]

Did you guys make the awesome woolie?

[@roundboywarm]

If you think those are big, Creature Caster is going to rock your world! I'm using two of their 15.5 cm models as greater Daemons in 40k

[@tristanlee8495]

The Coruscant Police dropship is probably one of my favourite designs intrduced to star wars, as soon as they released the Legion version I bought one and now watching this makes me want another.

[@TAZEROXFORD]

After playing Jedi survivor I forgot how much I love the design. Literally a TIE drop ship

[@CloneCommanderCrater1102]

​@dick danger Close, but it's still in the gunship family of ships. The actual TIE dropship is the TIE reaper, which was first seen in Rogue One and is a transport/dropship that is a part of the TIE family of ships.

[@KevinoftheCosmos]

Incredible, as usual. I'd say you painted them as nicely as the miniatures they made for the original films. Truly. And I appreciate you using a sponsor that's not only relevant to the hobby, but also makes things I actually want. The painting handle with connected light is genius.

[@Bloodfencer1990]

The vehicles turned out great, but I am sorry Jay, your pronunciation of "Abteilung" is horrible. The T just completely disappeared!

[@ashwynfaust]

Heyo - noticed that you mentioned a couple times that you are rubbing too hard when clearing the oil wash. One of the important parts that seem missed is that you should varnish between your acrylic stage and your oil stage. This should help protect the time your spent painting and make the oil stage easier.

[@tobiaspieringer1653]

He did.

[@Sonic-ig1po]

@@tobiaspieringer1653 Then he didn't use enough or apply it properly as a proper varnish stage would not be troubled by aggressive rubbing. You can't have it both ways either he should have no trouble or he messed up something. I am a big guy and I have never rubbed hard enough to have trouble with the varnish under coat. As someone who came to wargaming from enamel painting ww2 models, where a paint job will take days no matter what. Wargammers as a whole suffer from rushing their paint jobs almost uniformly. While I understand that they want to play the game it shouldn't be a problem to drop days into a single model. Its worth it if the paint job is important to you and setting arbitrary finish times just hurts the work in the end. Just remember that people have been painting figures long before wargamming existed. Even though acrylics have changed the world of painting you shouldn't try to ignore the years of experience that traditional painters have. These tips don't come from a place of anger but one of sharing and interest in supporting people's love of painting figures. I usually paint scrap pieces of plastic like the sprue and will often test my varnish on it to see how it looks as the protection coat will change the end result, hence why its always important to have both matt and gloss versions of the sealer/varnish you like to use. A gloss varnish is stronger as a matt varnish will compromise itself as it creates tiny pits in the coat to spread light so as to stop a shine. This effect also makes it much easier to paint over as the paint will stick better to the pitted surface. This is also why people will say to gloss varnish the whole object then come back with matt varnish to give the look you want. Good luck with your endeavors!

[@TheGameRoomStudio]

I don't collect Star Wars but I'm gonna get that Imperial ship for sure.

[@ratz9387]

Whens the Centurion video coming!!!???? Its been six months!!!!

[@Miniac]

8:27 I'm here for the RLM references

[@mooseoperator7288]

Thanks for the Clear glue tip! Also you're def scrubbing way too hard. Even with a thin coat of airbrush primer and unvarnished layers you should be pulling off paint. Add a tiny drop of mineral spirits to the sponge if a dry sponge isnt doing the job.

[@calebbarnhouse496]

This is a really nice video, when I was first getting into legion, I was trying to look up size comparison to 40k vehicles so I could show people how much more you model you were getting, but apparently no one has ever taken a picture of the two in the same shot

[@The_WarL0rd_Way]

When you were asking yourself which one to paint first, we all knew the rebel scum was going to be the test model. 😂 The troopers hanging off the air ship is epic!! Love it!!❤❤

[@Quijanos1]

Brother, you know it's a bad thing. Models shouldn't be so big that you need two tables. Now, I'm not going to dwell on the fact that epic 40k was fantastic. If my shipment of epic 40k rules and pieces hadn't been lost in shipment when I was enlisted, I would still be playing that game today. It was fun. It was easy to get someone who never played before into the hobby. Painting was a breeze. Mounting was a breeze. And you can have in one 8-hour session a game that you could carry around in a small box or briefcase. Epic 40k is what I think about fondly often.

[@Jakethebaron]

I bet Byron watches these videos lately with pride knowing he is helping you dry brush better than before

[@SpottedHares]

Now I kind of want him to print and try and paint some of those massive 3D print vehicles.

[@ericr6170]

Hey jay. I’ve also found that after priming you let the model sit a day. That helps prevent the scrapping issue

[@atkbovine]

Woh, never loved the battlepigs, but that brief glimpse of the mini changed my mind. Well done!

[@kglguy]

I have never painted a vehicle at 28mm scale, as I've always thought them too big. I have whole companies of tanks in Epic scale and WWII micro armor, though.

[@TheRendar]

Beautiful work! You did a amazing job. Thanks for sharing these

[@FridgeBrix]

Lol I’ve never won a game of Star Wars legion either! 😂 1:01

[@sebastianblizniak5288]

When I saw the thumbnail I said "Is that a LAAT/LE!?"

[@combo554]

Was not expecting a Half in the Bag reference. Great video guys

[@PRC533]

I just finished my LAAT/le that's been sitting on the shelf for over a year because it was an intimidating job, even for someone who's been painting minis for nearly 20 years. I like the oil wash, I hand lined every single panel by hand with a black ink. It took awhile but I really like the sharp contrast it gives. Not as realistic as your technique which is what scale modelers use, but I think it fits with the more exaggerated proportions of the tabletop minis. Both look really great and now I have to go get some of those troopers for my LAAT as well!

[@ben.harnwell]

Love the fact you can see through the cons to the real and only reason they exist. The fun factor!

[@kikolokopo_toys]

"They're too big" Says the guy that paints a beautiful titan in a week

[@JDER-wv1ng]

You can make a hinge ore magnets for the wind shield

[@toasthammer]

I think you definitely made the right choice on that Imperial cockpit, it looks incredible! Maybe it just helped you learn that you don't need to spend quite as much time on the interior for the next one 😂

[@minipaintingforyou]

I recently returned to applying primer through my airbrush. I tend to follow the fully cured primer up with a thin layer or two of satin varnish. This acts like a sort of quick save, which I repeat once or twice on my way to a finished paintjob. The final coat of matt or satin varnish seals it all. No paint rubbed off yet on any of these minis. 😊

[@stevenshea990]

Also doing 2 or 3 coats of primer gives you a similar effect (since both acrylic primer and varnishes tend to use the same resin). Alternatively, if you have a very well-ventilated airbrush booth (or airbrush outside), you can use a lacquer-based primer, which is much tougher than acrylic.

[@mikesmith2905]

Nice paint job, some interesting ideas in there. I make up toy soldier sets to give away, 1:32 for the 3-7 year olds and 1:72 for 7 and older. Personally I think Plasticweld or MekPak are the go-to glues for polystyrene (Mek also works on ABS plastics), they weld the part together. If you havent tried this kind of glue check out the Revel Contacta type, which comes with a nice applicator tube (if it blocks just play a flame over it). The liquid type I prefer is applied with a small paint brush. As they are going to get tossed around (mostly by parents trying to reclaim the dining table) I have to make them very solid. Just made a star trek style shuttle craft' in 1:32 from 2mm card (I think Americans call it chipboard), thick and hard to cut but very sturdy, especially reinforced with lolly sticks (popsicle sticks in the US I believe), tongue depressors and candy-floss sticks (3mm square stripwood, cheapest source I know of for this material but an alternative are extra-long matches sold for lighting barbecues) . Then I tried to paint it white using craft store white acrylic, not good. Losing patience with acrylics, they just do not cover as well as enamels (although their transparency can produce some neat effects). White house paint is not available in tester pots so I have ordered a white primer rattle can. We shall see. I'll try an oil wash (some panel lines were added using an empty ball-point pen).

[@Johndoe-co3pw]

Your consistently my favorite mini content creator! Your light hearted nature and talent in multiple realms of miniatures gives me more inspiration to push my own hobby forward!

[@NaviRyan]

Nearly missed the 50 shades of grey joke

[@Caddy666]

Jay definitely eats glue on a regular basis.

[@landonperez7521]

8:27 did you just make a red letter media reference 😳

[@brianv769]

Great video, love how you did the red stripe, it looks perfect!!

[@ryc03]

I can see the day when Jay try a 1/100 Gundam model kit, he will collapse under the sheer size of it. Joking aside I should look into repaint my Tau Hammerhead. It's been sitting in my box for 17years now...

[@Jaberin0]

In 25 easy steps. A perfect synapsis for an eons vid

[@anthonywaggett9317]

Jay, they look amazing and I think the red tinted cockpit was the right way to go, thanks for putting me on to the Badger Ghost Tints, just off to buy some!

[@lukaszjung3479]

Cool video! Im fan of Star Wars and i have Legion minis 👍 Only… I dont get how these two models are bigest minis…. What abaut wh40k landrider for example, or knight, or AoS gargant??? 🤔🤔🤔 Still… Cool video and good job with painting these 👍

[@AnAcquiredTaste]

When I was a little, little kid, I had some sort of Star Wars vehicle toy that I'd play with when I was in the bath, and I did it so many times the White coloring of it became really similar to the finished look of your Rebel vehicle. Somehow, your paint job was nostalgic for me.

[@riggermortisfpv526]

Stop playing everything on 3x3 tables FFS. 6x8 minimum for 28mm, anything smaller takes away the entire maneuver part of the wargame.

[@tonygreenfield7820]

Thanks for this review. I had no idea these two models were even out there. Just bought one of each and was both impressed by the quality and value - found then at £20.00 each including post. A comparable 40K vehicle would probably have been close to £60 EACH. As it is I am getting one more of each from the same seller and still am financially ahead of the game when compared to GW output. I dont collect the Star Wars Legion game models and they dont fit in well with the 40k environment (to clean and techy) but for other ranges such as Stargrave, Mantic and Deathfields they are perfect.

[@ekkodrm3540]

It fun with the size. Everything is just so big. I have become more and more interested in small 6, 10 or 15mm scale. Don’t have a printer but I’m close at jumping the gun on warmaster. But what I really what I just a small surface game that’s fast and fun. I really what a 10mm skirmish game. And I know I could take some rules and then do the distance in cm. But I want a official living game. Do some have any suggestions?

[@foreverfornever1124]

Its sad. I've been wanting to start Legions recently. But I know my wallet and hobby time couldnt possibly afford another hobby now that me and my gf recently got into Lego's together. I bought a pack of phase II clone troopers I want to turn into Coruscant Guard for fun. Maybe that can hold me over until Im much further into my Necron and SM armies. I still have about $800 worth of Sylvaneth box sets to get to as well.....

[@WhatsUpGazpacho]

Why use the phrase 'hey guys' when 'hey folks/miniature addicts/y'all/everyone/my little space marines/my 28mm heroes' exist? All the right idiots won't notice and anyone who doesn't like being called a 'guy' on a youtube video is spared that

[@quintonneal2881]

Man I‘ve been avoiding your videos cuzza the click baity names you give them, but I just started watching and I love your stuff! I love how positive you are. It’s great hearing someone just be stoked about war gaming.

[@mordecaitoth6703]

Excellent work! These both look fantastic! That Empire model is definitely going to hit the ground one day and totally explode haha good luck

[@aeneasfate]

If you like repainting/converting toys for poorhammer, I've seen a lot of people using the Lightyear toys for 28mm games like Stargrave, etc. The movie flopped, and they made way too many toys, so they're easy to find on clearance. You have to pay attention online though since they sell the same ships under different scales. Large variety of fighter styles, and the Armadillo ship makes a great Big Transport With Cargo Doors model.

[@jackpaxton9391]

I would LOVE to see more Star Wars Legion in the future! Maybe some Galactic Republic?? 👉🏼👈

[@KeC.S.]

Very cool video, but my german mind cant stand the way your pronouncing the oil paints, so ima teach you how :D The producer of the paint is call Abteilung, which means department in german it is pronounced Up Tai lung. Anyways keep the cool shit up my dude your work is amazing!

[@Sorrowdusk]

Are these truly BIG when compared to a Thunderhawk Gunship? Then again...the base size of infantry is veeery big.

[@aaronluisdelacruz4212]

Have you tried building gunpla? If you wanted to, I recommend the MG Barbatos or MG strike Noir.

[@jaanikaapa6925]

Vehicles can be treated like characters. Look at KITT and KARR, Millennium Falcon, Enterprise and so on.

[@spaceghost8897]

I have no interest in playing table top games but I love watching your videos. Great enthusiasm and ultra talented, bravo.

[@tristanemery8748]

They really aren't huge. Just look at any moderately sized warhammer model (which I know you have, as you own quite a few of them) and you'll see something truly big

[@gregpap3906]

The Oil paints really worked like magic. Wonderful stuff. I am trying to get to my vehicles as well so, any good alternatives to the oil paints ? Could I use a thinned speedpaints or a wash for a similar effect ? Or maybe something else entirely?

[@alessiodecarolis]

These models are really awesome, more for collectors (as I am) than for gamers, my only real complaint is that they aren't in scale with other producers ' minis, they're too big, and it's a pity, bcz I'm an huge SW fan.

[@jonesfigures]

The AA-5 is DEFINITELY the (Eagle-1) Space Winnebago from Spaceballs.

[@haraldhenning897]

when can I buy the Malifaux Train Station Terrain outside of you guy's Patreon? I need them in my life!!!!!

[@chestercopperpot8647]

Wait. They made the StarTours bus vehicle!?!? Does it deploy families and bratty kids😂

[@skazkatzroy3444]

I'm a weird Guard player who doesn't like tanks, but holy crap dropships and apcs are my secret shame, can't build enough, buy them when I don't need them.

[@DarrenMalin]

we ran a 4 player 40K game 3 v one players 10,000 point Tau Army. My Army consisted of 1 Warlord titan lol :) .

[@harryainsworth6923]

hey man, im a scale modeller and have used oils alot, wha ttype of solvent did you use? If you used mineral turpentine or an off the shelf it reacts badly with acrylic paint usually. Ive found 2 heavy coats of aryclic or alternative and enamel, are good, gloss finish. as the oils will matte it down. Additionally, i recommend using burnt uber or any other kind of transparant pigment, the reason why is oil paints range heavily in opacity, and for grime you want something thats semi transparant, to assist with removal. Alternatively, a range of cheap water soluble oils exist if you dont wanna risk the paint, still varnish ofc but you should be good.

[@worm1618]

I've had similar results with oil washes, so now I always varnish beforehand. No problems since. Marco would have you believe you can do it without varnish, but you and I are not Marco 😢

[@nickschaefer9320]

My full company of Lemans and Tribunal of Super Heavys laugh when you call these "too big"

[@daili4917]

Why does no-one say wizard anymore? Anakin should be pleased, because Jay's bringing it back!

[@roopepenttila8345]

Umm.. biggest you can get for a miniature wargame? 40.k has plenty models bigger than those. :D

[@bomberboyz1308]

if legion ever goes bigger with its models I would love for them to make a model for the AIAT/I or the amphibious interstellar assault transport/infantry it's a giant gunship that can land on water world's and is big enough to be a miniature skirmish battle lol

[@PhD777]

Use Micro Mark Same Sfuff liquid cement and they will never break at the joint. It has better welds and less smell than Tamiya thin cement.

[@200iqgryplanszowe]

bro bro bro! one second at the beginning of the video that you will paint quickly, 3:01 the interior of this vehicle takes several hours :D? this is how it finally is :D anyway i like your videos

[@GrumbleGombol]

Those things are tiny compared to GW shite... Also the LAAT is a Aircraft, not a "Spaceship"

[@skraal1801]

Great stuff Jay! May I ask what Speed Paint you used for the Empire Pilots ? 😊🙏🏼

[@yagsipcc287]

Yeah GW needs to fix there models like these much better looking also can put mags on them if you wanted to show off the inside as well :-) many companies are doing better things the same goes for 3d printing companies, much more details and can show off great looking insides of units like this.

[@PlasticHobbiesPNW]

I will now justify my purchase of new models by buying them "for science."

[@garyjenson1326]

Jay I use mostly oils. If you use a lacquer or oil varnish it will get pulled up by the makeup sponge. I think the wash reactivates it.

[@jean-philippegreau2274]

Very good job ! I tried to find the same floral wires but with no luck... any idea where I could find them ?

[@sejerisaksen9891]

Come on Jay, Why where you sponserd by painting handles when you have your 1x1 wooden cubes?

[@kevinmoreira86]

A lot of guys try to add comedy relief jokes into their vids and it's usually not funny and cringe but you commend the effort lol your jokes actually had me randomly chuckling out loud haha great vids, you're a natural

[@mrssd1255]

Man, please do a video on dropzone commander, it's 10mm scale, realy fun and not enough people talk about it

[@buzzardb]

Because of you I have now spent a fortune on Star Wars Legion models and don't even play wargames >:(

[@krzysztofmathews738]

Really well done, and they looked like a lot of fun to paint! I very much like how you got the glowing console screen effects on the speeder.

[@rklammer]

If those troopers ever fall off, how about trying to magnatise them? it would be a really cool visual indicator durign a game for if the troopers are onboard or not so you can remove them when they disembark.

[@Gumlass1]

I've never had paint peel off like that ... Did you have any white spirit on your makeup sponge?

[@cesargimenez1288]

You rub too hard, it’s not the varnish not the oils, is Jake not being delicate enough. Try stippling with a make up sponge dipped in white spirit

[@defox1998]

hey Jay, if I sub to the Eons UltraFans tier, do I get the earlier released STL as well? I really wanna get this month terrain, but I need the money rn.

[@JakubHohn]

"Biggest wargaming models". Brother, have you heard about titans?

[@matthewpletsch7523]

That Laat makes me so mad. The other transport version is my favorite ship in all of Starwars, and they didn't make it in Legion. They made that weird piece of doodoo.

[@maxxon99]

They don't look that big compared to 40K vehicles...

[@sircommissar]

So in armada, the ship version of legion, we have the super star destroyer and it's generally called a 'maxature' instead of a minature

[@TheNoble117]

I really like the laat pat, just wish it wasn’t super finicky for travel.

[@BlitzMekanika]

I enjoyed incorporating leds and other special effects, over scaled vehicle “minis” is great. It gives me room to hide led wiring and batteries in between interior and exterior parts of the models so you never see them

[@r1ptidee]

Day 11 of asking for a Centurion Squad magnetization and green stuff conversion video.

[@Neolazaro91]

8:29 At first I didn't pick up on the reference, BUT MY BRAIN DID

[@tk-eva72minis]

Got these sukers sat waiting to get some paint slapped on them. I love the Legion ships.❤ Great job🙌🏻

[@TonyE727]

r/SocietyofHiddenPaint sounds right up your alley.

[@paulbradley3830]

If transport worries you I’d really look at magnetising the bases and getting a magnetic carry case.

[@grognozzle4916]

Spotted that Destroyer Pig on your desk at 3:13. Where are all the Relicblade videos?!

[@EricPuente-wr3bg]

LAAT for the Empire? We all know who it’s REALLY for

[@ChampstylesTLT]

Sooo does this mean you’re gonna do Star Wars-er I mean “Galaxy Battles” terrain?