Ep:109 WHEN PROTEIN IS TOXIC TO THE HUMAN BODY. - by Robert Cywes

Remember that your body is continually recycling protein that you ate and used yesterday.
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[@sek4110]

I listened to many other low-carb channels and I could not lose a lb. if my life depended on it due to the high protein recommendations. In the past week, I have done some intermittent fasting which decreased my protein intake in half. I lost 4 lbs. in one week. I feel great! Thank you, sir.

[@19hoggy66]

HALLELUJAH another KETO advocate who recognises protein is an issue for SOME of us, THANK YOU !! I actually developed T2 diabets on 15 yrs of Atkins - too much mear / protein. 2.5 yrs of diabetic remission with moderate protein HIGH fat diet aka KETO

[@islaadele1212]

I was doing OMAD and eating a pound of beef and a couple of eggs in a sitting and couldn't understand why I was starting to feel exhausted. Finally figured out it was the old sugar crash from too much protein being converted. Up with the fat, down with the protein, couple of days and butter fasting, and feeling a lot better.

[@ZZR600AH]

Exactly... same here! I always had to eat meat/protein even before starting a walk and after finishing I felt so exausted nevertheless and needed more protein, but after the meal I felt much worse. I also wasn't able to get into Ketosis and wondered why, so frustrated. All of the carnivore Docs say, the amount of protein doesn't matter. I stopped believing that because, like you, I had the feeling of this old sugar crash. So I tried out and a couple of days later I reached 1,5 values of Ketosis and felt great. I wonder if there may be a difference between people with an healthy metabolism and those who are pretty insulin resistant like me (and you maybe?)

[@jjones8928]

What kind of fat do you eat . I'm struggling with finding fat 😢

[@torstrasburg8289]

I don't do well with plants (fiber, fodmaps, resistant starches), so that leaves animal products. I simply eat generously from them and don't register the grams of protein consumed. My decades long IBS is thankful for this long-overdue discovery.

[@Wyobrd]

Thank you Dr. Cywes!! I am so tired of hearing: "gluconeogenesis is a demand driven process...". I really appreciate Ben Bikman, Ted Naiman, Shawn Baker et. al. but when I switched to the carnivore diet my blood glucose never, and I mean NEVER went under 100 g/dl. I never saw ketosis for 3 1/2 months. Now I'm careful not to overdo the protein, do the occasional OMAD and am in steady ketosis which really helps my Hashi's.

[@JDRatka]

Ted Naimans range for protein is 1g of protein per 1 pound of lean body mass. That's within Dr Cywes range. No contradiction there.

[@christopherellis2663]

@@JDRatka 2gm per kilo is a little less than that . 1: 2,204 :: lb: kg

[@crystaljonas8246]

Went from keto to ketovore and I love it mostly just meat and fat...I've lost over 30 pounds in 1 month and off my blood pressure medication and i just love how amazing i feel..thanks for the thoughts as always doc

[@jlewallen007]

Finally! An egg has everything I need to become a chicken! Love this humor! And the info I need to set my body straight

[@v.a.n.e.]

phew, he was talking to you! I wanted to strongly oppose his claim since I had a very different experience.

[@PModesto]

I can see feathers starting to raising over my skin.

[@georginaK21]

HELP! I fed my girlfriend eggs and now she's getting broody.

[@Isaac5123]

@@georginaK21 feed her eggs every day I would and keep her broody

[@patvb3243]

Waow... at 2:50 ... I've been listening and learning all about Keto and the science behind it for 3 years now... I've been following everyone, from Phinney and Volek to Saladino, Berry, Bikman, Feldman, Cummins, Teicholz, Westman and ALL the others. This is the FIRST time I've ever heard about this KEY role of insuline! Why is that ??? !!! 👍👍👍

[@jb6712]

They're learning all the time, just as we are. Nobody has all the answers to everything yet, but thankfully, we have access to such people as Dr. Cywes and Dr. Berry, as well as to Dr. Sten Ekberg and Dr. Nick Sudano, who are very willing to do so much of the research us lay people can't find.

[@JYAN2852]

Same here. I always thought that insulin's main role was to regulate glucagon. Wow learning something new every day

[@carolcameron8872]

I thought insulin was a fat storing hormone.

[@JYAN2852]

@@carolcameron8872 lol we are all confused too. Insulin does many things. Probably other functions not even discovered yet. But one thing is for certain. It's the most dominant hormone in the human body

[@learntocookketo]

Even Dr. Cywes himself says there is no textbook yet. They are still learning because Dr. Berry says eat meat until you are full. This doctor says otherwise. 🤷🏼‍♀️ We may never know!

[@MarmaladeINFP]

This is an interesting topic. But it would make for even more interesting debate. I'd love to see Cywes discuss this with Saladino, Berry, etc. I find I learn best by hearing multiple perspectives that challenge each other with diverse evidence and interpretation.

[@markburnham7512]

Would love to see it. Add Naiman and Bikman to the list. And please also touch on protein requirements as we age. This issue has been driving me nuts.

[@JDRatka]

Folks before you will panic and stop eating meat contemplate on the fact that 4oz of ribeye is only 20g of protein. 1 egg is only 7g of protein, you can eat a lot of it and still be within range Dr Cywes talks about.

[@JDRatka]

@Steve Jameison Exactly.

[@Rockman-4]

Basically a 10oz of ribeyes with butter and 5 eggs for me a day.

[@juliapace2845]

thanks for this - my mind was spinning out

[@cheesecakefan4880]

People thrive on Carnivore types diets I eat more good fats and meat than anything else I am THIN Yes I love cheesecake but I havent had any since Christmas 2022.

[@videogazer801]

The generally rule of thumb is about 1 gram of protein per pound of your estimated lean body weight. So, for someone who is 180 pounds and 140 of that is lean body weight, that person will require a maximum of 140 grams of protein and a minimum of about 90 grams of protein

[@aprilek6003]

This is a timely video for me Dr., Cywes. I am a lean, fit, strong female who's recent A1c was back in the prediabetic range. 5.7 after 4 years keto. I up my protein at the beginning of this year and even though I am very active I think that is why my blood sugar was staying elevated throughout the day. I now have a CGM to see what is really going on. I am hopeful that I can get things back in the normal range. Thanks again

[@Gumdrops8739]

I’m in the same boat. My blood glucose keeps creeping up and up. It’s very concerning. The only way my glucose gets in normal range is if I fast for 72 hours. I am Omad and still have glucose 150-250.

[@madambutterfly5343]

Dr. Cywes you are constantly blowing my mind. Opening my eyes, giving me the info needed for my continuing Keto journey. Thank you 🙏

[@bjgregory2562]

I've been told this very same thing. You, however, say it in a way that's understandable!!! Thank you!

[@streetmagik3105]

These Keto branded products drive me nuts with how they promote the package with "high in protein", and it's just some cheap whey garbage. If it's got more than a few ingredients, it's probably garbage, in my opinion. Great video Doc!

[@Meritumas]

That’s why THINKING independently is crucial 🙂

[@rachelrose4156]

Love ur videos Dr Cywes 😍. Always clear , concise and to the point.

[@colleenmcentee6944]

Love u , Doc. Great content. I recently switched from Keto to carnivore and feeling great. Never worry about macros anymore. Eat twice a day till I'm full. Two pounds to go to get to my goal weight! Down 80 lbs. So thankful to you helping me get there.

[@Thefitty]

Way to go Colleen!!

[@lindalentz5093]

Congratulations

[@colleenmcentee6944]

@@Thefitty thanks! Appreciate the support

[@colleenmcentee6944]

@@lindalentz5093 thanks, Linda!

[@noblumoon]

Colleen great achievement!

[@mannyradzky493]

Absolutely brilliant video. Thank you dr. You are one of the very few drs on KZbin that looks at the ENTIRE approach to health.

[@Angel-rv1mt]

So informative. I’ve never heard this informative before. Yes...it definitely made me think.

[@duc1198s]

As always, great info. Thank Doc...

[@rebeccanunez6376]

Thank you!! I see so many carnivores posting OMADs of a huge steak plus 10 eggs and sometimes scallops and shrimp, etc. etc. all saying that you can eat as much protein as you want. If I eat too much protein I feel like crap and I'm urinating every 20 minutes. No thank you.

[@stefanweilhartner4415]

you are right. everyone is different. some carnivore people are as religious as fucked up vegans.

[@Meritumas]

On top of this another doc from the diet doc podcast says that body cannot absorb more than around 30-40g of protein in one meal… think, if you exercise and want to improve your body composition you need to get around 1.5-2g of protein per 1kg of your body mass. Simple answer, eat 3 meals in a span of 6-8 hr eating window.

[@amuslim3706]

This was any eye opener and a game changer for me. Thank you!!

[@kristalnunley7205]

🤯 Thank you for this video! You learn something new everyday! Definitely need to look into my protein ratio. 🤔

[@LDArtsLindaDias]

Damn! This is eye opening. Thank you so much doctor.

[@daveoatway6126]

From the research I have been doing, for my age (76) it looks as if more like 1.5 to 2 gm per day per KG and exercise is indicated for avoiding sarcopenia. I walk 5-10 miles a day and do a very low carb diet.

[@emarie2911]

This has been very eye opening and helpful, Thank you!!!

[@scalarwave8104]

An excellent video for those of us hearing extreme views on both sides. We sure appreciate you!

[@monikag.80]

The suspense in these videos is enormous. I’m questioning my internet connection immediately 🤣 Jokes aside, great informative video.

[@gaynorbishop9749]

Very informative. Thank you so much!

[@lindasmith4035]

Thank you for reminding me about too much protein. You explain it so well. ♥

[@Junebug93309]

Thank you Doctor for this information. I reworked my macros to make me keto plan less protein heavy.

[@bellahaas8393]

Very helpful explanation🖐 makes so much sense.. Love it; thank u Doc🙏.

[@Summanininruhu]

you make whole a lot of sense doc,

[@williamturner3082]

Thanks doc. That’s what I’ve been doing.

[@cmonman5443]

Awesome.. helping me solve my problem. Amazing Doc

[@leonidasspyropoulos849]

Awesome video, thank you.

[@fionabell1744]

Thankyou x

[@unperrier5998]

I learned a lot, thanks. I don't know how I can use this knowledge or whether I'll remember it, though :)

[@maureensmith4993]

I watch all of your videos and try to absorb the information.you are so clever, I don’t have the memory to keep the information. I am half carnivore as keto only allowed me to loose 20 kilos over 4 years, so, too much vegetables. Now I only have meat, cream , butter and cauliflower, sprouts and broccoli. Loosing again. Love your site.👍

[@christinashawgo6510]

Very good, Doc.

[@suewilkinsonmorrobayca6590]

Wow…..good to know! Thanks

[@SimplyHuman186]

It would be a teat to listen to great minds like Dr. Cywes and Dr. Paul saladino converse.

[@donswarthout3603]

I get more confused by the day. You just talked about the great Dr. Berry 2 days ago and he says eat all the fatty meat you want until you are comfortably stuffed. And now I hear this. How in the world do we know who to listen to?

[@katherineaguilar5496]

Love all Doctors advocating keto and carnivore but I also don't know who to listen too. The carnivore community also says eat as much protein as you want and some say eat more fat. Some say fast others don't fast...so confusing. I have gained some weight from eating carnivore. Yesterday I started fasting again. Had listened to Carnivore yogi and stopped fasting, but it is just not working so now I started fasting again. Hope to see the weight start to come off!

[@shadowphoenixtarot5826]

I think you need to learn all you can, and then try out what works for you. Your goals will be different. Mine are weight loss right now, that is very different than people who use carnivore as an elimation diet. You need to judge your own goals, needs and abilities. They are still doctors (people), doing their best to GUESS at these really complex biological issues and convoluted social diet confusion. Start trying it and see how you feel. I like dr Cywes because he makes it simple. I will say for myself to fast (OMAD), I have to stuff like dr berry says. If my eating window is bigger I can do what dr Cywes says. So just see what makes you feel best, physically and emotionally God bless and good luck.

[@hiraijo1582]

@@katherineaguilar5496 i am a female MD. age 57......slim and athletic.......i learned about low carb, keto, carnivore......time restricted eating, short and long time fasting for about 8 years now........and what i found is that everybody has different circumstances......so one way of eating may be great for a person.....but not for another one.....my own experience.....with low carb, intermittend fasting and cheat meals 2-3 times a week i reached my perfect weight and was athletic.......but last year i had some medical issues......i lost weight and muscle......so i had to adapt my diet........i had more protein and carbs.....now i am fine again.......what i wanted to show......you have to find what fits for you........and this may change according to the changes in your life........excuse my english....it is obviously not my native language best from austria

[@karenreichert9308]

A ribeye is perfect blend of fat and protein...

[@jb6712]

I was confused, too, until just a day or so ago, when I realized that, much like keto, each person has to eat just until they're full---not "stuffed," which is very hard on the stomach's digestion process---and use common sense as to how much to eat. None of the doctors are stating as a command that people MUST eat XX amount of protein (or anything else), but that one should eat as they're body needs (whatever kind of real food one is eating). Common sense is key, and everyone should be doing further research than just listening to only one person, something I've heard every keto specialist and carnivore advocate on YT state. Hope that helps.

[@VihopeFamily]

Ecclesiastes 10:17 says, “ Blessed is the land whose king is of noble birth and whose princes eat at a proper time-for strength and not for drunkenness.” From this video I’ve realised my meat intake are too much (due to many mentor keep promoting eat meat until you full 2 pounds and above to healing). After I’ve follow eat sequential with fat fortifying eventually I’ve eat lesser amount but very satisfy. Thank you Dr Cywes God blessed.

[@ketokira]

It made me think of connection between insulin resistance + protein synthesis + non diabetic CKD (macro proteinuria)

[@Iowaclass65]

I really appreciate the knowledge shared by Dr. Cywes. I have been in the process of turning my carb addicted life around. I am eagerly awaiting my appointment with him later this year! I am really at a crossroads though, I am almost to the point of one meal a day, the 18/6 IF is easier by the day, but my struggle is with what to eat. No sugar, no carbs, no starchy veggies, and now I am being told 3oz of protein a day! I am down almost 30 pounds in 30 days, but I am still an obese but muscular 6'3", 390 lb man (all belly fat) and I just don't know how I am going to get by on 3 oz of protein a day, no matter how much fat I add, to say nothing of the gastrointestinal consequences/misery of the added fat in my diet. I guess I will keep be content in knowing that whatever my protein intake is, I am still in a better place than when I lived on pasta and pizza 7 days a week. I guess if it was easy, we would all have a swimmer's body! LOL

[@valentineannacoelho5215]

See @JDRatka's comment above: There is only 20g of protein in 4 oz of meat. At 390 lb, ie. approximately 185kg, and your lean body mass is approximately 125kg, you would need to eat max. 125g and min. 62.5g of protein per day ie. about 24 oz to 12 oz of meat per day. Hope this helps

[@marcellecostanza1777]

I've been keto and doing IF for a few years now. Hit a major stall with COVID and having a hard time getting the added weight back off. Also noticed over the course of the past several months that I was suffering from depression that was REALLY starting to get to me. It would start the minute I opened my eyes in the morning. I chalked it off to the state of the world, etc. Then I went back and I started looking at how I was eating when I started keto in 2018 (yes, I track everything and have been for many years). My macros were different, a little less fat, more carbs and more protein. I decided to try increasing the protein a bit ( i was only consuming about 30 grams a day back then). Ok, so the weight is still not pouring off like it did back then but after only 1or 2 days of the increased protein I noticed a MARKED decrease in the depression! Started reading some articles that state protein can increase dopamine and norepinephrine. So until my keto friendly primary care doc tells me otherwise, I will keep my protein levels up a bit. Better than antidepressants!

[@Meritumas]

That’s exactly what is happening with my parents… they are brainwashed by “doctors” that red meat and fat is deadly. Guess, mental and physical health issues going to the roof as they age. Sad, they don’t listen and don’t take example from their son who reversed pre diabetes, lost 40kg in 2 years and has excellent blood work. All of this on carnivore with occasional sour cabbage, kefir and yogurt.

[@nirmalramchandra7649]

Its refreshing to come across balanced videos rather than extreme diet views & opinions like vegan or carnivore. I follow a low carb diet with caloric restriction. 15% protein (approx 1 gm per kg), 20% carbs mostly millets & vegetables & 65% fats. 600 mg EPA & 400 mg DHA daily. I'm 53, 167 cms Indian living in a Himalyan region with negligible pollution & slow way of life 🙂 Indians from the northern hilly regions are naturally lean, athletic with very less body fat. I'm 57 kg, 11% body fat, 29 inch waist 🙂🙂 I follow a low carb diet because it keeps me fit, feel full of energy & vigour & keeps my gut healthy. Thanks Dr. Cywes for the deeply analytical talks that bring new perspectives for us to think over and apply to our individual goals👍👍

[@bandedaputt3519]

what are your sources of fat?

[@ernestjahn6676]

This is good except you didn't mention that in elderly like me (71) more protein is needed than for younger adults due to lower absorption / utilization ability. That seems to be a consensus everywhere.

[@chris_losin_it]

I didn’t see your question until I posted mine. I have the same worries as a senior caregiver. I have huge concerns about our seniors getting adequate nutrition. I find that nutrition is a large cause of steady decline. It’s hard to witness.

[@williamdennis1537]

Yeah, ditto that. After about 5 years of eating Keto, pretty much all my lab numbers were optimal-glucose low, insulin low, A1c low, weight 155-down from 210, BP 100-105 over 60 ish, etc. I eventually followed my impulses for more protein, switched to Carnivore, and all the aforementioned markers eventually tanked and inched back up- and suddenly, waaaay up. Glucose baseline 125/130, and most disturbingly, insulin rose from 1.8 to 7. Now back on Keto and not too concerned about eating more protein to address Sarcopenia issues, because I suspect regular exercise may be more impactful than wishful copious meat eating. Clearly, for me, there’s consequences pretending to be wolfman. I’m 73, and one thing has become quite clear to me-I have no idea how long I will live, eating “healthy” or not. Another month? A year-5 years? I do know, however, I have no intention of lying on my deathbed counting regrets and wishing I had eaten a few Snickers on occasion. I don’t see myself thinking, “At least I’m dying healthy”....I find great amusement at that oxymoron. Do what works for you, cheers!

[@ernestjahn6676]

Yes, sarcopenia is very real. In fact, when I tried extended fasting I experienced muscle wasting, pretty severe. I have gotten some back with exercise, but not all of it. You have to listen to your own body I feel. It is smarter than any doctor or fad about you, if you "listen" to it.

[@CarbageMan]

Yes, there's that too. I wish the heavy hitters would get together and evaluate the science so we could have an objective gauge indicating that we're eating the right amount of protein.

[@ChromeForDays]

@@CarbageMan I usually go looking at the videos/articles of Stuart Phillips of McMaster University, and Gabrielle Lyon, when I'm curious about protein requirements.

[@chadh8632]

Went carnivore and counted nothing and ate when I wanted and lost 45 lbs. haven’t lost any in months and I feel like I have 20 to lose still. Got a CGM and my glucose is almost always 115-130 so maybe I am eating too much protein. I’ll hold protein to 100g a day and fat to hunger and see how it goes.

[@bradcoddington1679]

Real simple eat protein in moderation 3 to 6 oz of high quality animal proteins and fats and veggies nuts and berries and stay away from carbohydrates and sugars and you will be healthy.

[@vangojo4u]

I am being taught recently to amp up protein, 130 grams and lower total carbs from 20 grams to 10grams and fat about 70 or less. This is for those facing a stall and very insulin resistance.

[@sevig5903]

I'll try this for my CKD

[@learntocookketo]

“A blob like me” lolol!!!

[@peterking1270]

Thanks doc, i forgot about the grams per ideal body weight. Thanks for the reminder.

[@alisonnorcross951]

I learn something new each time. Protein synthesis function of insulin . Hello

[@blackbandit1290]

Another great video thanks Doc. This one is being added to my library! I've struggled with T2D for many years and recently discovered that milk protein keeps my BS levels high (HbA1c - 7 to 8). Didn't seem to matter what I did with low carb and plenty of fat. Ability to stay in Ketosis was frustratingly random. Stopped eating cheese/cream/yogurt and voila! Fasting BS below 5 and stays low all day. I can only think that I have a sensitivity to milk protein.

[@cjcj6945]

Same except butter doesn't seem to be a problem for me? You?🧈

[@blackbandit1290]

​@@cjcj6945 I've reduced the amount of butter just in case, even though butter has very little protein I'm not discounting that, for me, there could be an issue with the fat profile of dairy. Once I get this stable, I might re-introduce butter as part of my process and see what happens. Thanks for your comment.

[@JohnHoranzy]

Milk has 12 grams of sugar naturally. Go with cream and butter as it does not have the sugars.

[@mikafoxx2717]

​@@JohnHoranzy it has the same sugar as milk but you usually use much less of it because it has a huge amount of fat. Not many people do I see drinking a full glass of cream.

[@JohnHoranzy]

@@mikafoxx2717 Sugar is not fat soluble and stays in the water fraction. Many products labeled as cream have lots of added ingredients. Read the labels. Pure cream and butter have zero sugars/carbs and zero protien. Wal-Mart Great Value brand Heavy Whipping Cream is the purest form of cream I could find. Compare to the other brand name creams with added ingredients. Note: Carrageen is Kelp and is a thickener. I have no idea why they add it but is a good food in its natural form. Butter has insignificant residual solids which can be removed by making it into Ghee. Ghee is important for bloggers to have something trivial to blog about. Those solids will burn if you are careless idiot cook. Maybe a super refined palate will taste a difference.

[@stars_for_night_lights]

Why does this have to be so damned confusing? I just started Ketovore with the goal of primarily consuming beef, butter, eggs and bacon. You said before not to eat too much fat, so the body will burn stored fat. Now you're saying not to eat too much protein. I feel like in your next video you're going to tell us it's best to just consume air. 🤔🙄😡

[@henand3chicks411]

I think the take away from this and other videos is to not fall into the “rabbit hole” of using protein supplements/shakes or other “keto” shakes and such. Just eat real food. Your body will give you cues when you’re consuming too much, the trick is learning to listen to your body. I have learned that if I eat too much protein, I have high morning blood sugar. If I eat too much fat in one sitting, I have digestive upset. There is no one formula for everyone because we are all different. Hope that helped.

[@stars_for_night_lights]

@@henand3chicks411 Thank you!

[@stephenrankin8916]

Love your humor. Too many chickens out there.

[@ryderyp]

“What’s that obscure hormone” ... lol 🤭

[@MAGNUM2F]

Interesting vid. I only question what we should be eating to maintain good health. 100g of protein a day, no carbs and as you regularly say, not a lot of fat when you are in a healthy balance. What do we need to eat?

[@s7An1]

Very important video... shame only 35k views. Now I know how important fat is in carnivore diet.

[@asierarrizabalaga436]

When and how does the neoglucogenesis occur? Do you have any video available in your channel on this subject?

[@meathead365]

My urine smells strongly of ammonia, i wonder if my protein intake is too high, i will experiment with more fat. Great content Rob. Food for thought

[@CarbageMan]

That can happen when you're fasting for days (personal experience), so I'd believe that's either a by-product of ketosis or ketosis AND protein consumption.

[@thebaconexperiment8578]

thats just acetoacetate from burning lots of bodyfat. when we focus on protein we burn bodyfat like crazy with the i increased calorie deficit that is often created.

[@karenrafiai2254]

Me too how much fat & protein to have

[@MrSlamyou]

god bless you

[@joemcbee1870]

I have beef tenderloin each day with either eggs or mushrooms or cheese on Omad with water or coffee my thinking is if I eat lean protein my body will consume my fat reserves I walk one half mile a day and jog 100 yards of that thank you for your time sir oh lm 64 years old I had quad bypass 2.5 years ago I’m starting to feel better

[@robertcywes2966]

Disagree. Ur body turns xs lean protein to sugar. Eat fatty meat to reduce IR

[@joanneyuan6530]

Thanks for the video. What the symptoms could be for over consume protein from meats? And if limiting the protein intake, substitutes with fat?

[@MsAnchovey]

That's what I'm doing. Increasing fat and less protein...even before this video. Protein shouldn't be used for energy but to build. Fat is for energy and cycle carbs a LITTLE every few days.

[@elliotthough765]

Just came across this video but timely for me. My BUN has increased from 21 to 31 since starting a Carnivore diet in April 2023. Am 67yo and 6’2”. My BUN in Feb 2020 was 17 with no special diet and was doing strength training 3xWeek. In april 2023 blood work and med checkup my BUN was 21 and was diagnosed with NAFL. My hbA1C was 5.8 and fasting TRIG were 125 and body weight 226lb. Immediately cut out sugars and sugary drinks and over the next 3 months began cutting out more and more carbs and replaced those calories with more meat and eggs. In early aug, A1C had dropped from 5.8 to 5.6 but BUN had increased from 21 to 27. TRIG dropped from 125 to 51. At that point i had pretty much cut out all carbs and was basically carnivore with some mild cheat days. Also started to incorporate more and more restricted feeding window down to a 6-8 hours. Checked blood work again in early october, A1C was still 5.6 and BUN still 27. TRIG 65. Continued with carnivore diet until now. Checked blood work again in early Dec and A1C had dropped to 5.3 but BUN increased to 31 so seems like my liver function is going in the wrong direction. Also somewhat concerned with kidney function as my eGFR is 65-67. My diet isn’t all that crazy. 4 scrambled eggs and 8-10 thick slices of bacon in early afternoon and then 4-6 slices of smoked salmon and a 300gr ribeye around 6pm. My body weight has dropped 50 lbs down to 176lb and my waist size has dropped from 40-41” down to 30”. So am really happy with that transformation but my liver and kidney blood markers have me a little freaked out. The nitrate preservatives in the bacon is one concern and i eat a lot of restaurant prepared steaks and never know for sure what the meat is cooked in (marinated) in terms of oils and sugars. Have been in Thailand since early October which explains all the restaurant steaks.

[@L.J.01]

Excellent question! Ask Dr. Chaffee who does a live q&a. He sometimes answers questions for 2-3 hours, trying to respond to everyone, and he's not pay-to-play like Dr. Barry, who also does a live Q&A but only takes questions attached to a payment/tip and half-asses the answers to get through as many paid questions as possible. Dr. Chaffee otoh, answers everything in depth. You could see if he does private consults if needed. Hope you get an answer. 😊

[@user-lq3dj3eo8k]

I am a carnivore because veggies and fiber blow my tummy and intestines up like a balloon. But I am confused about how much beef and eggs I should eat. 65 yr old woman kind of active, 116 lbs. Can anyone help me figure this out? I have no idea what my bmi is? Thanks for another great video, will have to listen a few times to grasp it.

[@cynthianelson3711]

Oh I see, so what every my BMI is that's how much protein I should be eating. That's going to be easy! Thank you 🙂

[@kristinashanahan5570]

For example: If you want to weigh 125 lbs divide that by 2.2 which equals to no more than 56 grams per day!

[@cynthianelson3711]

@@kristinashanahan5570 thank you, hopefully this breaks my stall. I been eating to much protein.

[@MsAnchovey]

@@kristinashanahan5570 You mean 56 grams a day? So about 20 grams each meal. And lots of fat, which I'm used to. I'm going to try that. Thanks

[@jenny1671]

I like to use the subtitles but sometimes they are not available. It helps me to comprehend the more difficult vocabulary used. can you please enable them when your making videos?

[@andreahunter2836]

Thanks for this thought provoking video. I wondered... are you saying that kidney stones are caused by excess protein consumption? When I was hospitalised with them many years ago, I was told I wasn't drinking enough. Now I wonder about the real cause. Can you shed more light on this.

[@dianavp9054]

I understood that kidney stones are caused by a high oxalate diet, not high protein.

[@my-yt-inputs2580]

Thanks and interesting Dr Cywes. When I first became Keto aware the mantra was low carb, med protein and high fat. Then carnivore became more popular and protein didn't seem to be as much of an issue anymore. I still try to rack my brain with this. I eat a lot of Ribeyes. ;) There are still a few Keto enfluencers who push a higher protein consumption which I'm sure you're aware of. One of the things I am/was thinking about is if the process of Gluconeogensis is demand driven or a product of simply eating too many proteins itself? In my own personal experience, fully carnivore, I find that I pretty much need to do an extended fast routinely to deplete glycogen stores even though my carb consumption is pretty much nil. I typically see my blood glucose levels slowly rise over several weeks. And an extended fast seems to reset me back lower. I really, REALLY need to exercise more. lol 63 years old, 160-165 lbs, 6 ft. T2D

[@JYAN2852]

I had the same problem with rising fasting glucose on carnivore. I found that I needed to carb cycle every few days to bring it back down. Dr Saladino warned us that this would happen if we didn't. It's called pathophysiiological insulin resistance. Cells would become insulin resistant on purpose to spare the small amount of glucose from gluconeogenesis so that only the brain and red blood cells can uptake the glucose. This type of insulin resistance causes a bit too much glucose in the blood. I usually fat fortify my steaks and seafood with tallow, butter, or swiss cheese to make sure I get in more fat. That's just works for me. When I do carb cycle I eat an avocado, some broccoli or a few bites of rice. I know it's more keto-carnivore but I find that it's more beneficial to me personally that way than 100% carnivore

[@my-yt-inputs2580]

@@JYAN2852 This in interesting to me. I have heard of carb cycling but without researching it further I had assumed it might be more for those who are Keto but more metabolically normal vs someone with IR like me. Although I feel I am well on my way to getting much better. Before I went Carnivore I used to live on veggie smoothies with an avocado. I might have to do them once in a while again.

[@JYAN2852]

@@my-yt-inputs2580 My mind was blown too after Saladino explained it. Sadly he's gotten a lot of criticism for incorporating occasional carbs and honey into his diet while advocating carnivore. I initially disagreed with him like how many people in the community did. But then as he explained it and I having experienced elevated fasting glucose it all made sense to me. His choice is honey but that's his choice of carbs. Mine is rice bc I rather not take in fructose. After I tried carb cycling I could not believe it myself that Saladino was right. Prior to carb cycling my glucose would be 110-120 and could never get it any lower. Once I began to carb cycle it went down to 70s-80s which is exactly where I need to be. Not only that but I benefit from more magnesium, vitaC, and other nutrients that are more rich in plants than in animal foods. We are omnivore after all right

[@my-yt-inputs2580]

@@JYAN2852 If my fasting carbs ever got that high again I'd crap my pants. lol I think my issue was higher spikes after a meal(even no carbs and mostly fat) or a workout. Then take longer to come back down below 100. I'm finding it hard to keep the weight off even on full carnivore. Too much fat. ;) That's another good reason for a 48 - 60 hour fast.

[@JYAN2852]

@@my-yt-inputs2580 Yes I am a big fan of fasting as well. Eating all the time is bad even if its just carnivore. It's normal for glucose to spike during workouts or high activities. That's when stress hormone cortisol induces glucagon and tells the liver to make more glucose. As for glucose spike after fat heavy meals it might be due to pathophysiological IR that Saladino explained. There are 2 ways we can become IR and that's one of them when we become too strict on carnivore. The other way is standard american diet lol

[@olivia8979]

There are 3 macronutrients. We don't eat much carbs. You are saying just eat a small amount of protein. We can eat straight fat. So what is it that you think we should eat?

[@orlovsskibet]

Fatty meats, and fat?

[@DylanM333]

is ghee/mct oil in a glass bottle good dr? for adding to carnivore

[@malvanlondon8683]

Please can you clarify a formula for calculating the minimum of daily protein needed?

[@kendrikhawk7436]

I wish you'd talk to Crystal Sikes about this (Lady Savage). She's doing a "Carnivore Challenge", but is starting each day with a protein preworkout powder. Maybe no big deal, if she vcd was bulking up for a body show, but not for every day use.

[@MsAnchovey]

Protein powder is pooooo

[@pdxoregon1]

Hi, Dr. C! What if you and Dr. Berry videotape a short conversation together about protein intake, to help clear up some of the confusion? I think that'd be a "best seller"! :-)

[@CarbageMan]

I'd say the only way to know is proper scientific clinical study.

[@teyrilshadowstar2625]

I would absolutely love it if Dr Ben Bikman was there too. He's top notch on quality research.

[@pdxoregon1]

@@teyrilshadowstar2625 oooooo! Yes! Great idea! I love Dr. B... I'm a "Health Champion"!

[@antoniadispalato2900]

@@CarbageMan See Dr Jason Fung

[@CarbageMan]

@@antoniadispalato2900 I'm quite familiar. I have four of his books. Can you be more specific?

[@v.a.n.e.]

uhm... never?

[@albacan]

I'm allergic to fish and seafood - anything that swims - so yes some proteins are toxic.

[@ryanray6215]

Imagine thousands and millions years ago , people were worrying about how much grams of protein is good for you . Haha . LOL . Paranoid !!!

[@MsAnchovey]

True! They just ate what they could get.

[@AN-zg3sr]

At 10:2 he clarifies that

[@ryanray6215]

@@AN-zg3sr 10:22 He clearly said "- Eat a small amount of animal protein and you will be healthy- .

[@PModesto]

The primitive man ate the fatty parts of animals and leave the lean protein behind. The food did not abound, and had to be hunted. They didn't eat every 3 hours, and they were nomads, so, they were in movement all the time. There were no sofas and Netflix...

[@sanjavukovic169]

How do you know when nitogen balance is negative, wether that is due to excess protein intake or not enough, breaking down you own lean mass?

[@annesummers09]

What about those of us who have no gallbladder and cannot process fat efficiently. I've tried taking ox bile but that gives me loose stool that is yellow and fluffy. LOL. I actually do better without added bile. How does all that work?

[@crystalwords821]

Please show me a daily menu that I can have only 50gr Proteins (I am 63Kgr 178cm) ... And at the same time to take all the Minerals and Vitamins that the RDAs tell me to take ... I made a program in computer and the results was 2500 Kcal - 160 Proteins - 190 Fat - 35 Carb and I was down in some minerals and vitamins= Mg, B3, B9, E ..(Sardines, Pork, beef Liver, Avocado, sauerkraut, lettuce, butter, Olive Oil).

[@olgacasillas7110]

What about on the carnivore diet

[@PModesto]

Dr. Robert Cywes, do you know Dr. Eric Berg DC? He advocates the healthy ketogenic diet, with plenty of veggies, mainly cruciferous veggies and leafy greens.

[@PModesto]

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[@eagleeye9549]

Wow, I eat 10 to 15 eggs a day and try to eat 4 to 8 oz of protein a day while doing carnivore. I can't eat much because I get full fast. Recently, I went back to eating green veggies at my 2nd meal. Trying to get BG under control.

[@micks336]

Once in awhile I have one of those nights. About 2am I wake up and I am extremely nauseous. I take about twenty minutes to throw up my dinner and coming out the back end too so my head is in the bucket. Good thing I am a practiced bulimia survivor and can get it over quick. Lol only happens on carnivore. I've never thrown up on a keto meal. Yet I hold more water on keto and carnivore is much easier to cut weight quickly where keto is good for maintenance.

[@cindivillali9161]

Question about those who have had a gastric bypass... After a GB, and can eat regular foods, and have ended up going back to bad habits and have regained a "few" lbs, how would you justify eating the amt of meat that was suggested here if a lot of the nutrients are no longer able to be absorbed. I have developed osteoporosis and the dr told me to up my protein to 100-125g a day and put me on a protein powder that is supposed to be easier to absorb than regular meat based protein. I guess my question is how much of a meat based protein is being absorbed in addition to the protein powder? How much should a 54yo, 175# (125# lean muscle mass), 5'5" adult woman eat that is very sedentary due to back surgeries?

[@Unsensitive]

I've always wondered about this. When first getting into ketosis, people see high ketone wasting in urine, breath etc, higher weight loss, and from faster fat burning. Is this due to the body still running on glucose, and the best source of glucose being the glycerol backbone of triglycerides?

[@Bonussime]

Hello :) It is mainly because the body is not used to utilizing ketones efficiently, hence the losses and wastes. As the body becomes more fat adapted, with sometimes longer periods of fasting or a LCHF diet, it also becomes more efficient in utilizing ketones, either by burning it more efficiently and producing less waste and thus losing fat more slower, or by producing more energy for the same rate of fat burning. A shift in the mitochondria "memory muscle" is needed, and takes time for them to switch from glucose burning to ketones/fatty acids burning. For your hypothesis, glucose is quickly expended in case of fasting (24-36h at best), and only the liver's glycogen counts, not the muscles'. Also, the only tissues/organs requiring mandatory glucose are the brain (20-30%, check Sokoloff (1973)), the retina and the lenses (100%, which are a projection of the brain and neural tissue), the renal medulla (100%, despite having mitochondria), and the red cells/haemoglobin (100%, no nucleus nor mitochondria). Also, glycerol is only one part of GNG in the liver : lactate and pyruvate, the latter in the form of alanine, are needed. Check the Cori and Cahill cycles for more information. If you check the study on the medical supervision of Angus Barbieri's 382 day fast, you can see that his blood glucose went below 20mg/dL, down to 17 ! (while "healthy" average is today between 70-100 and 80-110 mg/dL) without any adverse effects. The only time he fainted was when the doctors injected him with glucose, hence rising insulin, lowering glucagon and shutting down momentarily ketones production. I hope this small explanation helps !

[@Unsensitive]

@@Bonussime I ment before fat adaption, by "first getting into ketosis". Perhaps that clarifies my meaning. I was more looking at "why the body isn't 'efficient at using ketones until fat adaptation' ", to word it better. In that perhaps it's not an efficiency issue, but a biological need. Since you have a greater need for glucose, and to your lack of fat adaption.

[@MsAnchovey]

So I'm carnivore and love it, it makes me feel great!! I take it from this I need to increase fat and decrease protein. I've experimented with very high fat and lower protein and feel the same but felt so weird eating soooo much fat. I didnt gain any weight which was even weirder!!🙃🤣 Now the big question is, "What? Insuline isnt used to control blood sugar?? Or shouldn't? Now, I really question that. I think it does both. Works with protein and glucose. I'm going to have continue my studies on this. Man, how do you know the truth? Smh

[@robertcywes2966]

Insulin only controls glucose when its high. Glucagon shd control bg and insulin controls glucagon

[@MsAnchovey]

@@robertcywes2966 Thank you for that. I'll experiment with your teachings.

[@thebaconexperiment8578]

The theory makes sense but not really what I see in the real world working with clients. Especially for weight loss, protein should always be the focus.

[@VolkyHaus]

I weight 158# how much protein should I need to eat?

[@jaym9846]

Isn't the amino acid methionine the nutrient that most limits max life span?

[@7173mach1]

Thank you Doc! Do you have advice for my gf who is a (no juice) pro body builder? She eats keto (no fasting) with moderate fat and high protein. I suspect she is eating too much plant/seed oil and not enough animal fat so I hope to see her change that. Her concern is her kidney health but she doesn't want to lose her amazing muscle mass and super lean body at 50yrs old. She has leaky gut and other digestive problems which I wonder if that is diet related. I think she could increase sat fat and reduce protein a bit to help that.

[@kimidoodles]

Yeah leaky gut is going to be from those plant/seed oils. Look up Dr. Paul Mason.

[@frieskoh]

Between 0.8 and 2 g per kg of lean mass, that's quite a range...max value is like 2.5x min value

[@caseybrannon4975]

There is also a big difference between sitting on your butt at a desk all day and lifting heavy weights 5x's a week (even if the rest of the time that person is sitting on their butt all day). .8 for the person that doesn't use muscle and 2 for the person that does. Also, age is a factor. Older you get the more protein you need. A young person that is inactive might only need the .8 whereas the 80yo inactive person may require 1.2 to supply their bodies needs. Hence the wide spread.

[@shirasagi9390]

@@caseybrannon4975 i totally agree. but i also think that individual metabolism might also play a role...young people are supposed to need less protein than older people, yet when i was a teenager my dr told me that my muscles were ''thin like cigarette paper'' (her exact words) to the point that my bones were starting to get deformed because my muscles didn't help support my body mass. i was eating about 1g protein/kg lean mass every day, maybe 1.2 sometimes, with moderate exercise. yet according to Dr Layman the protein specialist, teens can be fine with 0.5g protein/kg lean mass a day because they recycle their old proteins efficiently. well i ate double the amount he mentioned, exercised and still was skinny fat with sickly thin muscles. i already had metabolic illness underway because of excess carbs, so i think that damaged metabolism might also fail to recycle the body proteins efficiently, even if the person is young

[@joncdavis5]

What do you think of Ted Naiman's P:E Diet?

[@Roundasapound]

That’s what I was 🤔 Ted Naiman is shripped!! 💪

[@Thefitty]

@@Roundasapound I'm curious too!

[@Jean-yn6ef]

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[@sixpackbinky]

It’s very difficult for me to balance out protein , fat ratio

[@chris_losin_it]

I’m a caregiver (and advocate) for elderly family members and have been to many seniors for several years. I have found that as they age, it’s difficult for them to get their needed protein in. 1 reason is lack of appetite and another reason is being able to chew due to dental issues. How can I be sure they get in their protein and meet their caloric requirements if not via protein shakes? This has become an ever growing problem that I see getting worse yearly.

[@pdxoregon1]

Perhaps cooking soft meats, such as pot roast? Cooking meats in an InstantPot or CrockPot until they are very mushy? I have two cousins who live in assisted living facilities, and the staff feed them absolute garbage. It's horrifying. Nothing I say or do makes a difference though. If you have any suggestions for me, please let me know. Thanks for your post. :)

[@chris_losin_it]

@@pdxoregon1 hi, thanks for the reply. Yes soft meat works well, as does eggs 2737 different ways lol However that brings us back to problem number 1 which is lack of appetite. There’s only so much actual food they can eat in a give day. That’s why we always resort to protein shakes. It’s hard to get them to even get their calorie requirements just to get through a day without adding anything physical. My stepdad had stage 4 kidney disease and on home dialysis. There was never a time that he was in his protein range on his monthly labs. It was so frustrating. It’s a battle that saddens me. Many times, even those with no underlying illnesses, their minds are top notch, but their lack of nutrition eventually catches up with them. I always gave protein shakes and all sources of protein at any meals I could get them to eat. Bottom line, to me, life is better with quality instead of quantity. Best wishes to you.

[@nilajamussa9477]

maybe liver pate?

[@jselectronics8215]

My wife just died from stage 4 breast cancer. She lost her appetite and taste for meat and eggs, so I made a high fat, moderate protein, low carb shake for her, which she enjoyed. This recipe is about 2100 calories and would last her about two days: 1 scoop plant based chocolate protein powder 2 scoops egg white protein powder 1/4 cup unsweetened cocoa 1/4 cup MCT oil 1/4 cup orange flavored fish oil 1/2 cup heavy cream 1/4 cup sour cream 2oz cream cheese one cup water ice Tip: Mix the cocoa and oil in a separate bowl, then blend with the other ingredients. She survived 29 months after diagnosis. Her oncologist said her low carb diet helped.

[@antoniadispalato2900]

@@pdxoregon1 Long cooked Protein is unhealhy too

[@Thefitty]

*I like having lots to eat in terms of quantity, so is it bad to consume loads of protein if I want to lose fat?* 🍖 Thanks!

[@Gumdrops8739]

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