Erebos vs Morophon vs Ur-Dragon vs Edgar Markov EDH / CMDR game play for Magic: The Gathering

[@vader1137]

Let's ignore Edgar Markov, that's a good idea

[@HoneyJack07]

I was literally yelling this at my screen lmao.

[@SirKingHoff]

I love it (as an Edgar player). Ive been playing him since he came out. A gift from my brother cuz he knew I liked my vamps. All I wish was they were sexier LOLOL

[@arterial_alchemy]

I’m an Edgar player myself and I was saying the same LOL

[@DarkEinherjar]

Yeah... activating Dragon's Arch in the main phase really isn't the smartest plan. Also, that one token Skylar forgot to create when he cast Scarab God with Oketra on the field cost him a chance to stay in the game.

[@Mtglilypads]

Lol i love the god beatdown strat sorry you were slaughtered tho!

[@DarkEinherjar]

That's another thing: he could've pumped the zombie token and attacked with it instead, and then he'd have three blockers instead of one because the token has vigilance.

[@Sephiroth041888]

Glad I wasn't the only one thinking that lol

[@Noisius]

Good eye son

[@TheAntoniusFunk]

For sure threat assessment was way off this game. Blowing up your coffers and trading post when you're already at 3 life and far from being a threat? I dunno about all that.

[@armoric]

The power level of the decks didn't look very flat either.

[@charlesmaillho367]

Threat assessment is always an issue at this table. For the life of me I cannot understand why Skylar kept trucking Andrew instead of going in on Steph. There were a few turns where he could get in easy not to mention Steph kept targeting Skylar's board. It was if Skylar was cool with it?

[@MayhemMessiah]

@@charlesmaillho367 Not to mention, am I missing something or when the Morphon got really buff, it could have knocked out DJ who had no blockers. There were multiple times in the game where somebody could have been taken out but wasnt.

[@charlesmaillho367]

@@MayhemMessiah Oh yeah it could have taken him out. That's where I thought he was gonna swing and then sends it at someone who had a blocker. Very questionable decision making.

[@MayhemMessiah]

@@charlesmaillho367 Just felt awfully... friendly, you know? Like constantly players didn't play their best lines.

[@louisrollins5199]

Just seeing your channel for the first time while doing some searched about my Edgar deck. I really like how you just explain what's going on and make these commander games into short videos. Very nice

[@MTGMuddstah]

Thank you!

[@esperderek5383]

Main Phase Dragon Arch activations is weeiirrdd planning.

[@Cookie_Nova]

I dont know how I'm gonna live once we go back to only 2 Muddstah videos a week T.T

[@hiddenleaf414]

Hope Skylar got his Heliod back! Same/similar sleeves always suck when using someone else’s card.

[@Kazz1187]

trueeeeee, hate to steal someone's card in-game and accidentally take it home ahhhhh

[@Guerte]

I did that at a GP by accident. When I got home I found I had 5 siege rhinos in my deck. I did some research and found the guy I had played against and tried to get a hold of him, but no response.

[@Kazz1187]

Guerte damn I hate to see it

[@PaulGaither]

This is 3/4 of the dream match up for me. I use each of these commanders except for the changing. No matter who won, I was in full support. I would like to help each of those players with some advice. - Edgar Markov edition - The Edgar Markov deck is solid and can be improved on a budget by making some stronger card choices and continuing to improve the curve. a. Underworld Connections is among the worst card draw options in black. It costs you access to one mana each turn, which adds up quickly over the course of a game. In this game, he was able to activate it four times for four cards and an investment of 7 total mana, which is almost a 2-1 ratio and took 9 turns to get there. b. Burst draw is far more powerful, especially in Edgar Markov. Night's Whisper, Sign in blood, Read the Bones, Ancient Craving, Ambition's Cost, Minions' Murmurs, Promise of Power, Moonlight Bargain, Ad Nauseam and the like are much better. You get the cards now and refill your hand, digging several turns into the future and worth the mana dump on a single turn. Most, if not all of them are at a 1-1 mana ratio or better and draw as many or more cards than he did in a single turn. c. While Wheel of Fortune is expensive ($$$), Wheel of Fate and Reforge the Soul are solid options on a budget. In a deck which likes to dump its hand naturally, it is great to have a Wheel to replenish and screw up the plans of your opponents. You also get a far better ratio of 7 cards to 2, 3, or 5 mana often at the cost of discarding zero or at most 2 useless cards. I also use the Red and White Hideaway lands, which are great with Wheel of Fate. d. I see that he is still using Bloodlord of Vaasgoth. This is hands down the worst vampire in his list. This game proved why yet again. It came down as a 3/3 for five mana. That is a horrible ratio. When you are down, it doesn't help you climb out of a hole. Even at it best, it is bad. It doesn't help any vampires in play. It also doesn't help the tokens Edgar creates, as it is a cast trigger. I strongly suggest it be replaced with anything that costs 4 or less. Honestly, replacing it with a one drop would be best, as that give him another faster play and value. e. I see that he also has Falkenrath Noble as well. While the effect is good when you try to combo, that triggered ability is not worth 4 mana. Even the non-vampire Zulaport Cutthroat is a better card in that slot, or if you want to stay on theme, another one or two drop would be better suited. There are also a lot better 4 drop vampires that could be played as well. That would be my second cut/change I would recommend. * Please understand, this is not me hating on the deck, just wanting to help.

[@watapon3415]

Great insight, this will help me a lot with my vampire deck, thanks!

[@evafox9696]

Skylar's threat assessment was horrendously bad. I have no idea why he kept swinging at you Muddstah. Maybe he's just traumatized by Mono Black. On Turn 8 he had a chance to swing at Stephan as all his creatures were tapped. Horrible plays from a cool deck.

[@Exaurilo]

The threat assessment and combat phase targets in this game were a complete mess, what a shame.

[@mattshuey1]

Whenever someone brings a friend never seen before threat assessment is almost out the window as a given. It isn't the new person doing it, its the other people that know them changing the way they play for ~reasons~. That is just how commander goes though.

[@Punintentionally]

That Rhonas into Xenagos into 24/24 Morophon was spicy!!

[@sykorixgraveborn7142]

MTG Muddstah i love the playmat youre using, i hope you had a great holiday and I wish you the best of luck, keep up the great work!

[@PhazonOmega]

Strange threat assessment and timings here, but it was really neat to see Morphon go off like it did! God tribal with Morphon as the commander seems like a fun creature variant to superfriends!

[@DarkEinherjar]

Skylar also forgot to get his Heliod back when he left the game... this is how we lose precious cards. :(

[@jinxcurse6113]

Agreed

[@NiaTheMilkTank]

Can't wait to see more Morophon with the Theros set coming out.

[@greed9958]

This game takes the sorcery speed scooping rule and propels it into Oblivion, everything done is sorcery speed...

[@chrismaness8772]

Did you call it a "Hwhip of Erebos"? LOL

[@stijnvandevorst40]

Made me chuckle & check the comments if someone else heard it to :-)

[@Huntath]

Dang that's just around the corner! I would love to play EDH with ya sometime with my Kenrith Politics deck lol

[@yousufshamim4423]

Is there a reason Skylar didn't get a 4/4 black Zombie off the Oketra trigger from the Scarab God or did they just miss the trigger?

[@Tryo707]

The Zombie would have kept him alive too. Was looking for this comment.

[@lallypop4]

Sames

[@sephyrias883]

Everyone had about equally slow starting hands, so this should be an interesting match. People should've taken you out immediately after the Aetherflux Reservoir combo finisher resolved, but it ended up not mattering anyway. 7:00 - 9:35 DJ was a non-threat for the entire game. He played a lot of bad, overcosted cards, like that Sarkhan planeswalker 8:35. That he blew up Cabal Coffers was okay 11:30, but he should've attacked Stephan instead. In general, it seemed like people were underestimating the Vampire deck.

[@DeliriumTr3mens]

9:56 "... and deals 4 damage to my beautiful face..." EPIC

[@d9_1056]

All of these instant speed interactions played on main phases are making me sick...

[@Devilish420]

Very Nice Edgar deck! Bloodlord of Vaasgoth is so good! I need to get him and a falkenrath noble in mine (I have a blood artist in there already but a FN would definitely help with the artist too). It was also awesome seeing so multiple cabal coffers on the field, I have the budget friendly version in my edgar and Syr Konrad decks which would be cabal stronghold, the budget friendly version of coffers except you pay 3 instead of 2.

[@ChevronSeven]

For stronghold you need basic swamps, so it doesn't combo as well with Urborg...

[@Devilish420]

@@ChevronSeven ah yea I forgot about that, guess that's why coffers is the waayy more expensive card lol. Stronghold does work really well if you mostly have swamps in your black colored deck though. It really works in my edgar deck cause I have mostly swamps in there since 85% of the spells in the deck are black with 5% red and 10% white.

[@kamehameha7176]

I dont think that he could respond to kill Dromoka since it forbids opponents to play cards during its controlers turn, but that game still looked like a wrap by that point. Awesome video as always love the channel!

[@DarkEinherjar]

Wrong Dromoka. This one doesn't have the forbidding ability.

[@kamehameha7176]

Well then, I stand corrected.

[@Skybaby132]

God Tribal Deck list: tappedout.net/mtg-decks/08-06-19-god-tribal/

[@jinxcurse6113]

Nice two five color decks!

[@gamermomentshq9500]

You should totally have a guest narrator come on and caricature your narration for how good it is

[@Closer2Zero]

Wish i could see that god tribal list in full

[@germanyjones2700]

Love your stuff mudd

[@thaddeuspaulbrillantes2482]

Who knew that Vampires would triumph against Gods and Dragons

[@DarkEinherjar]

A wise (and sneaky) homunculus once said: "Keep watch only for the giants and you'll be eaten by the ants."

[@jbell3662]

It was super cool to see a God tribal deck

[@kaladelsol3432]

I would love to play with you guys only to hear you say Edgar plays Edgar Markov xD

[@thifelicii]

Sr. Do you have the list of the Edgar's deck?

[@Kaslay]

Real maverick build of Ur-Dragon there

[@crovax1375]

Was Eminence a mistake? Does anyone think that any new commanders will be printed with that ability?

[@DarkEinherjar]

I don't think so... if you look at Arahbo and Inalla, and even Ur-Dragon, their eminence abilities are rather tame: Arahbo gives one cat a combat pump, Inalla only gets real value from wizards with ETB abilities and usually runs into mana issues, as tapping out to make wizard clones is always risky, and Ur-Dragon still needs further support to make those dragons come out fast. Edgar, on the other hand, generates permanent bodies off every vampire cast by his owner, which gets out of hand fast because a lot of vampires are cheap to cast. He and the original eminence commander, Oloro, are perfect examples of how NOT to make a commander have relevant effects from the command zone.

[@Skybaby132]

@@DarkEinherjar most out of hand eminence effect is Oloro :P

[@voidmaster6353]

Where can I find the decks' recipes?

[@quatha]

I'd love to know what DJ was thinking killing your coffers and trading post when you were about to die anyways

[@GigaDestromon]

Rest of the players: A Andrew: Because of Erebos

[@AidanWR]

DJ tapping one of his two white sources to pay for the two mana enchantment instead of Haven. He could have had a soldier blocker from Heliod if he had the two white open

[@puffin-onehandedgamer1164]

Morophon God tribal is interesting. I need to rebuild Edgar Markov, I took it apart because I needed the lands for another Mardu deck. but I'm gonna rebuild it with cheap fast vampires and a few expensive bombs, I'm just not sure how many bombs to put in. currently my edgar deck has 13 1 drops, 22 2 drops, 16 3 drops, 8 4 drops, 3 5 drops and 2 6 drops. average cmc is 2.62

[@beat2deth]

i took mine apart for a similar reason. needed lands for my Zurgo deck and i could never seem to get my vampires going consistently the way i would like.

[@thedeadfool1]

If you're running enough vampires with lifelink, paying life for cards accelerates you even faster

[@Trenchwar731]

I just wish I knew where DJ got that amazing unicorn playmat.

[@Skybaby132]

at a local game store in Kingston Ontario, they had it in store for Pride, but TBH first thing that came to mind when we saw it was Diablo 3's whimsyland

[@Tyrant372]

No lists of any of the decks?

[@Kazz1187]

I like commander for the sub-optimal spicy plays

[@nicholasberry8456]

Muddstah makes me feel good

[@eildonp]

Morophon decklist please!

[@mn6334]

That deck looks really fun. I have a Morophon "Lord" Voltron style deck that I just threw Xenagod into because of this game.

[@travislannoye8244]

Found it! tappedout.net/mtg-decks/08-06-19-god-tribal/

[@dannybruyant7531]

Kris do you have a decklist for this deck ? :)

[@mn6334]

@@dannybruyant7531 No I don't. I could try to work on getting something online tonight after work if you really want it. I really just looked up a bunch of tribal "lords" that give P/T buffs to Morophon and good abilities like haste, hexproof, and evasion.

[@TxarlesN]

Oketra's ability creates a 4/4 zombie with Scarab cast

[@wouterbos4485]

misplay from Skylar at 11:00 he should had created a token for Oketra

[@jannaja975]

in 11:00 stephan should attack with markov first then play falkenrath and bloodlord of vassagoth bcs he will get 3 counters instead of one thanks to bloodlord

[@luizlozzanosanches4128]

Poderia por gentileza disponibilizar a decklist?

[@moakus]

How do you cast Rhonas for 3? Shouldn't it be 3G?

[@DarkEinherjar]

I think he meant "three lands", one of which was Temple of the False God.

[@thedeadfool1]

Morophon reduces COLORED cost of selected Tribe

[@DarkEinherjar]

It can only take one green, though, so Rhonas still costs 3G.

[@thedeadfool1]

@@DarkEinherjar ahh. My bad

[@danielmartin3739]

Yea man you must have said something to them before game because they were cut throat for you

[@donalds2378]

Definitely a case of "let's not gang up on the new guy at the table

[@JonTheBolt]

Edgar deck list?

[@amethystwyvern]

This is what happens when you let a markov player sit and build with little interaction.

[@armandofregoso609]

The god tribal deck forgot to put a zombie token when he cast the scarab god he would've had a another blocker

[@gustavomartinsdesouza5548]

Whatahell did you do to them in the past game for this aggression to happen? Hahahah

[@stevenbuck4090]

Such a strange decision to hit you when you weren't the threat.

[@sishenfan]

How did steph play the blasphemous act in Skylar’s turn?

[@The3OfSwords]

MIsplay?

[@sishenfan]

T.A White seems like it

[@MTGMuddstah]

Sishenfan he didn’t, Skylar did. I may have mispoken

[@DarkEinherjar]

It was Skylar who cast it.

[@sishenfan]

Ahh, i understand now. Thanks!!

[@HoneyJack07]

Decklists?

[@Andy-ye2re]

Why were they bullying Andrew so much? Did the aetherflux somehow seem threatening /

[@gustavoportugal3763]

where is the lists?

[@jackpabich763]

Stephan, please stop tapping in that direction! Fun game, though

[@brutemonkey]

Morophon decklist?

[@Kazz1187]

type t:god in scryfall, there's the decklist haha just kidding

[@DarkEinherjar]

Look up the previous Morophon game in this channel. The list is probably there.

[@mn6334]

@@DarkEinherjar I just did and it looks like you''re correct. Here's a link for the game: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jYGcimdnqZp9h6s

[@WhiteHeadSeaEagle]

Why is it nearly Impossible to watch a single Multiplayer Gameplay of EDH without one of the player taps his cards in the wrong direction. Thats freaking me out.

[@hectormorales4090]

GG!

[@josephandrees5381]

Deck lists?

[@Lellerinoo]

Tell DJ i love his tattoos :)

[@benzoo1209]

tis video was so good i killed a wild shiny Hoothoot by accident!

[@comicoma9138]

skylar miss so many triggers of oketra he loses a this moment because of that

[@noahmaddox7182]

Could have played Erebos for one black and a colorless because of Urza’s Incubator declaring gods.

[@DarkEinherjar]

DJ declared dragons, not gods.

[@noahmaddox7182]

I was thinking of the last Morophon game lmfao my bad 🤗

[@noahmaddox7182]

Skylar just has a really memorable deck!

[@heliaxx]

Skylar attacking you all the time was stupid

[@saintcorvic1194]

Wait is there another cost reduction because with just morophon he wouldnt have been able to cas rhonas for 3.

[@DarkEinherjar]

One of the lands tapped for it was Temple of the False God.

[@saintcorvic1194]

Thanks 🙏

[@LivePhive5]

All hail the Markovs

[@ThaChedda]

UR-Dragon player wasn't the brightest

[@rexone9564]

ThaChedda be nice

[@Abraktil]

yeah but DJ is not a good player.

[@rexone9564]

Romain Verneyre don’t be rude

[@pAuL-sf99]

grandpa edgar wins!

[@DarkEinherjar]

Andrew, you could've tapped that swamp to match all the other tapped lands. :(

[@smolclips5996]

Hi Andrew!

[@faerie7dragon]

At least he DID cast Edgar Markov, such a dum-dum Commander.

[@juanfica4611]

que wea el deck erebos no hizo niuna wea y yo entre a ver el video por verlo en accionjajaj xd

[@riansantos7284]

Sidisi, Undead Vizier >>>>> Erebos.

[@rabbituckmann8146]

/ignore_threats

[@toastman3421]

DJ activating Arch in main phase and passing was so infuriating omg

[@comedyman4896]

No one: KZbin comments: tHrEAt AsSesmENT

[@angelagrace8499]

Fastest click in the west

[@shogert2370]

To be honest, that was a long and very boring video

[@xixyz1414]

DJ shoulda won. Edgar is banned in 1 v 1 commander.

[@sishenfan]

Fastest ive ever been