EV vs ICE 1,200 Mile Euro Trip - Pre Trip Chat

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[@TheMacMaster]

I reckon I'm in with a chance here!!! I'm gonna use the inbuilt Porsche navigation which will pre condition my battery. You'll be sweating your nuts off. I'm gonna plan my journey. EV for the win this time!!! Bring it on.

[@GeoffBuysCars]

I’ll need a new drivers seat by the time we get there 😂

[@heathermartin8932]

If you go on a diet and lose a few stone then you might have a chance!!

[@15bit62]

Your Taycan is probably charging slow cos the car has to up-convert 400V from the charger to 800V for the battery pack, and porsche equip a 50kW converter as standard. Unless you paid extra for the upgrade, that's what you'll have. You'll get the same problem on all 400V chargers, so stick to 800V chargers for the trip if you don't want it to take all week to get there 🙂 For france i would recommend getting an account and RFID chip from Freshmile. Sorry to say that a lot of french chargers (especially AC) won't activate from an app, so the RFID is really useful.

[@Barbarapape]

Best of Luck Lee with the charging, i hope Geoff takes a good book with him whilst he waits for you.

[@philadams92]

Wishful thinking Lee, the only way Geoff will loose is if his old banger breaks down....obviously a possibility lol good luck to both of you I love the challenge!

[@IvermectinFTW]

Lee takes his electric vehicle on a ferry. What could possibly go wrong? 😂

[@Barbarapape]

The ferry catches fire!

[@GeoffBuysCars]

I’m gonna wear my swim shorts in case I have to jump 😂

[@annebeignatborde1832]

I hope they have them all parked together where they can be jettisoned into sea if they catch fire. It would be interesting to know if EVs pay more on the ferry.

[@rumpoh8039]

TITANIC

[@ItsBrillant]

Just Swim Towards Lee's Hair Island 😂 Wilsonnnnnnn

[@VXGaming]

So charge networks work better and worse depending on your chips. I'll just stick to my petrol and a chippy.

[@hudsonbear5038]

yep ICE, Use any petrol station, No apps, can use cash, same nozzles etc and the only thing slowing you down is the person in front or what snacks you want lol...EVs on the other hand well where do we start??🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@blackmagic998]

When EVs were being promoted as the next best thing since sliced bread, all I can think of is those battery powered cars we had as kids that lasted 10 minutes on full charge and ended up sitting in the corner dead and useless all the time... I think my interpretation wasn't far wrong

[@michaeloshea5505]

Worried carmakers call for urgent UK help to reignite waning interest in electric vehicles Sector wants tax cuts, better buying incentives and more electric charging points as sales in EVs stall It urged a halving of VAT on new battery-powered cars, and changing the threshold for taxing luxury cars. The Guardian This is crazy! What form of capitalism is this!!!!

[@andrewwaller5913]

They want more bribery basically! 😂 Also not sure if reignite is the best word in this context 😂

[@JB-np4lp]

They could give them away in corn flakes for all I care. Lol

[@AlexLancashirePersonalView]

Done the drive to the Costa Dorada several times in years past. Hard drive. There was no Millau or motorway then. Used to stop at a roadside cafe on the Central Massif. They had a sheep's scrotum hung on the wall saying that that was what happened to the last person to ask for credit. (1980s +)

[@angelakenyon7490]

😂😂😂

A sheep's scrotum? You have to be kidding.

[@ibrstellar1080]

As soon when Lee said I think I might be in with a chance I cracked my ribs with laughter 🤣😂🤣😂

[@daddymulk]

Demand for electric cars has dried up and it’s time for a rethink, says billionaire founder and Chairman of chemicals giant INEOS, Sir Jim Ratcliffe. Writing in the Telegraph, he says the “notion of a quick transition away from petrol was always barmy

[@noProphet550]

Ratcliffe and his £4.5 million a year + bonuses. It won't go away because the WEF are in charge and have more money, but EVs won't be a success either and they will just idle behind the ICE vehicles.

[@DwaynePipes]

EV sales up in April on all measures both new and used. Jimmy's maybe not up to date?

[@TrumanShow-im2ve]

Doubt it and if it was it certainly wasn't private buyers. Probably mostly fleet or pre reg and sitting in a field hahaha

[@andrewwaller5913]

​@@DwaynePipesEV sales have stalled. Bit like when you run out of electric on the M6 😂

[@DwaynePipes]

@@andrewwaller5913 Diesel sales have gone backwards. But like when you run out of fuel in a hill! 😂

[@timhicks2154]

The EV Air Con will eat loads of electrons

[@xperyskop2475]

Heating is a weak spot for electric cars . Air-conditioning takes nothing compared to heating car up to comfy 22c . Atleast in my Nissan Leaf cooling takes 1-3% tops out car range

[@lewisdillon8524]

and of course aircon in an ice car does not take extra fuel as it run on pixie dust

[@timhicks2154]

@@lewisdillon8524 - it uses very little. Unlike in an electric idiot-car.

[@lewisdillon8524]

@@timhicks2154 about 20% fuel loss with AC on. Of course if gullible idiots want to believe its free let them

[@chuckbradley1]

Its like watching Rocky IV again. Old tech versus new tech. I can hear the Rocky anthem in my head..... Adrian!!

[@craigcleveland3431]

I’ve used the Tesla chargers on my rentals in Spain and the U.K. recently. 40p per kWh at lakeside and 53 cents per kWh in Spain. Although the prices vary by time of charge. My wife has banned me from renting EVs when she’s with me cos of all the range anxiety

[@martinthomas492]

Has my car insurance premium been hiked up by 1/3rd, to subsidise these massive car park fires caused by EV bombs?

[@clungepoker6749]

Congrats on the win Geoff, my bad, I mean good luck Geoff and Lee 👍🏻😁

[@petetazflies]

My lad has the Taycan Turbo All electric EV and has had a service recently and they mentioned the fans on the cooling system (both lower front each side of car ) and changed both free of charge PLUS they put 4 brand new tyres on free of charge because they had it over a week 😂 And he doesn't use any sort of social media including KZbin 😂

[@grootjohnmorrison4165]

Dont want a negative news cycle i😂

[@angelakenyon7490]

Interesting, says it all 😊☀️

[@paulnewman9275]

I did this trip about 40 years ago in a Lancia Volumex , a fantastic car and trip. Spain isn't big on EV chargers in many areas so good luck in the milk float Lee ....will take an eternity !

[@johnlesueur1992]

To travel to Spain don't forget you need a hi viz jacket 1 each for each occupant, 2 warning triangles. Also a first aid kit and France wants a breathalyser kit as well. A visit to Halfords is essential. In Spain you also required to have breakdown cover.Technically you are not allowed to change a wheel on the Motorway. If you get out of the vehicle in Spain for an accident or breakdown the first thing to do is Put on your hi viz jacket. so it must be accessible. Same with your 2 warning triangles, keep them accessible. (Don't forget to check the pressure of your spare wheel! )There also far too many cowboy breakdown operators who will charge you thousands to get you off the motorway. Breakdown cover prevents getting caught by the cowboys. Good luck with your journey!

[@comm1508]

Do not need the breathalyser in France anymore.

[@christopherward9230]

You had to have 2 breathalysers, incase you used one 🤷‍♂️

[@ColineRusselle]

In Spain you must have spare glasses if worn, not sure what you do if you break a pair...

[@geoffas]

In addition to packing your 'box of fluids' 😲 Don't forget your first aid kit, warning triangle, hi-vis vest and spare light bulb kit. All of which are mandatory in the EU.

[@warrensmith4590]

Mercedes replaced the rear subframe on my 11 year old car for free But it wasn't a warranty... Nor was it a recall.. They. Decided they needed to do it for free whilst the airbag recall was being done.....

[@BleachDemon99]

Name the dealer, not often we hear of good dealers 👍🏽

[@ianmuir3640]

Never done it on mine in Edinburgh

[@warrensmith4590]

​@@BleachDemon99mercedes Benz Beaconsfield, Buckinghamshire Now owned by Vertu I've heard that many E convertibles from that era are being magically done for free but it's DEFFO not a recall for safety caused by internal corrosion of the subframe... No sirree 100% not a build quality issue

[@fbboringstuff]

30 year corrosion warranty with Mercs

[@Elsie-uy2kl]

I am so looking forward to this road trip Geoff. It might be your best yet! 😆👍

[@powerwheelscd]

Over the holidays, We flew to London, eurostarred to the continent (for the meme) rented a Miata in Dusseldorf and drove to Barcelona. You need to go to ESP via Andora. Beautiful road thru the mountains and the cheapest petrol in the EU.

[@duanepickering3096]

Dont forget a Towel Geoff. Looking at the leather seats gonna be abit Sweaty.😂😂

[@matthewwiddows6319]

looking forward to seeing some nice volvo 850 photos from the roads of europe. have driven to lake guarda in my volvo s60 d5, did the mountain pass. but had the wife, kid and mother in law and roofbox, so not really a "driving holiday". get the air con regassed in the 850, even if it only lasts a month or so!!!!

[@nheather]

That perfectly sums it up - there is something wrong with fans of the Porsche Taycan EV.

[@davidmarshall5596]

Well best of luck & may the best man win,Can't help feeling as Lee is waiting fo hos cat yo charge & drinking coffee, Geoff will be eating up the miles at the same time,but we'll see 👀 😊🎉

[@neallewis1]

@GeoffBuysCars Avoid going through Paris! From Calais go round Paris via Reims and Troyes, then A77 to A71. Alternatively take the Rouen/Le Mans route down the West. Don't attempt to go through Paris, you'll loose lots of time.

[@GeoffBuysCars]

Thank you!

[@geoffas]

*lose

[@andyinuk2172]

I totally agree avoid Paris like the plague, Just done calais to tarragona via the central route orleans limouge ,then through the Pyrneese. Drove down in Merc diesel c320 used about 140 in diesel . We do this route a couple of times a year always a great run

[@Ritte13]

McMaster is confident…..must have hooked up to a generator in the boot 😂😂😂

[@eelcosterringa1374]

If they wanted ev to work, they would really standardize all regarding charging: location of charge port, protocols, easy universal payment ( how difficult can it be just plug in and confirm - rest being taken care of)

[@noggintube]

Yep, ICE manufacturers have to comply to the latest Euro standard, so EV should be the same. Standardise all charging across the board and no need for all these different apps, just tap and pay.

[@richardhughes6757]

You should put 200kg of ballast in your cars to simulate weight of passengers and luggage.

[@andrewnevermind4902]

Diet coke! The healthy option. Christ on an electric bike.

[@bmorris5863]

The guy Eats chips every day 🤣

[@BleachDemon99]

Aspartame …..the healthy option 🤣

[@timhicks2154]

The phosphoric acid in the Diet Coke helps to break up all the grease from all those fish & chips

[@angelakenyon7490]

😂😂😂

[@peterbunting8485]

No, he's heard diet coke is good for extinguishing EV fires. 😂

[@richardfisher8426]

The mackmaster is a dreamer, how could he catch you when each time he charges he is an hour behind, blind faith. 😂

[@angelakenyon7490]

All luck 🍀 , and everything else, to both of you Geoff and Lee 😊 looking forward to watching Perhaps do some live streaming , if it's doable , that'll be fun, for us viewers and you 😊☀️🇬🇧💜

[@noProphet550]

Dont forget to buy an EU digi box, this will allow you go through the tolls without having to stop, saving time.

[@andrewdoherty737]

Don't forget in the EU now you need to have a GPS enabled flashing emergency beacon.

[@annebeignatborde1832]

? I live in the EU and I've no idea what you're talking about. 🤔

[@ItsBrillant]

I'd say the bacon is true but the GPS one surely more on Marine Craft .

[@746laurie]

Lee, is your all singing all dancing iPhone unable to take a photo of the charger instructions and automatically translate them? Should have bought an Android phone!

[@helmethead72]

Rubbish!

[@organickevinlondon]

@@746laurie FFS its only French and Spanish he has to deal with.

[@DAVIDJCARON]

All the best for your epic trip Geoff and Lee FYI.. Over 1200 miles.. there should be 133 miles of curvature drop on an alleged globe earth.. If you take a spirit level with you on your journey, or a gyroscope, or a level app, you will see that the curvature drop will be non-existent.. it will be as level as all bodies of water ;)

[@Lexusman65]

Don,t forget to keep those Duracells cool on the ferry haha.

[@the1beard]

It's Nice to hear that Fire Services are actually now doing their Job .. sad they failed to protect Grenfell Tower ..

[@MGR99]

Did my own Euro trip last week in my E36, from Latvia to London, around 2000 miles and it was brilliant, did eat a lot of fuel tho.

[@GeoffBuysCars]

which engine and what was your MPG then...?

[@MGR99]

@@GeoffBuysCars Originally it was a 316, but now has the 2.8, and roughly did anywhere from 8L/100km to 10L/100km, which is from 35 MPG to 28 MPG. Depended on country and how fast I was going, In Germany it might have been on the higher side, but also was going a good bit faster, while in like Lithuania it would have been on the lower side of fuel consumption. I should probably do some maths about the total distance and try to figure out my actual average.

[@davejohnson3474]

You still running the small case diff? I drove to nurburg in my 328 with 2.93 diff was very good. I've got a 328 compact e36 now but 3.23 diff quite high revving might be juicy going to nurburg in june

[@MGR99]

@@davejohnson3474 it's got the 2.93, plus zf gearbox , also have the correct vented brakes, so technically it's a 328 mechanically.

[@davejohnson3474]

@@MGR99 Oh i see. I had the m50 manifold on it if that made a difference to consumption but i think i would've got 380miles to a tank but my friends stopped for fuel so had to fill up with them. I wouldn't want to try a full tank now if i still had it it would probably be over a £100 My compact tanks alot smaller so i'll have to see what a steady drive to germanys like

[@highflowhighflow9896]

looking forward to your trip! be prepaired about the payments methodes, check if bankcards are valid and it might be good idea to have some cash with you for just in case

[@wanted-33]

I'm gonna pull for the MacMaster on this run. Someone has to pull for the underdog, and I'll be that guy. Come on Lee, you can do it brother. With the cars our friend Geoff drives, the law of averages has got to catch up with him soon.😀

[@matthewwiddows6319]

have said this, but will say agan, get your aircon regassed for £59 with halfords etc, 850 air con normally doesnt work because the evaps leak, its a slow ish leak, so a regas will probably hold for the trip, would hate to drive europe with no ac!!!!!!!

[@organickevinlondon]

MAN UP you whimp, "that would hate to drive in Europe with no ac" LOL, as I spent YEARS doing Europe in a Scania 143, (HGV1) with no aircon, in just undies, shorts, boots and shades instead, when in Italy, Spain or Portugal in summer, I remember loading ice cream in Italy and went to "chill out" in the freezer there, in the fore mentioned shorts and boots, it was MINUS 25 C in that freezer, then I stepped outside into PLUS 30 C and felt like I had run into a brick wall, LOL. as that was a temperature difference of 55 C in seconds.

[@matthewwiddows6319]

@organickevinlondon 850 is better with the air mix setting on the center vents, but most modern cars aren't really designed to ventilate very well and need ac. But yeah we are wimps these days!!!!

[@johnu9718]

We did last year Benidorm trip it was amazing! Spain is beautiful

[@warrensmith4590]

Lee's version of this video will be 60 minutes long....

[@blueband8114]

So he's cutting it down then?

[@angelakenyon7490]

Plus. 48 hours 😂

[@noggintube]

I guess he needs to do something waiting for his car to charge 😉

[@simonk1025]

White used to be cool, BMC Old English White in the 70s looked great, ahhh the good old days when beige was cool😂

[@jeremysmith4437]

Really looking forward to this one 👍

[@peterclarke3300]

Great video Geoff you are supposed to have spare bulbs,emergency triangle, and stuff like that and will they let Lee on the ferry incase,it goes on fire 🤣🤣👍👍

[@johnhart3070]

Its warm here - so MacMaster will not be able to use his aircon

[@user-hc6uo5fp8n]

Do you think house and contentce insurance will go up if the have an off road parking IE close to your house and you own a EV (fire risk?) and will they also make you have your EV charger box uk electrical safety test every year.

[@theonlywoody2shoes]

Have you seen the latest “life hack” from the EVangelists, where you place a wet towel on the charging plug to stop it overheating and de-rating the power at some charging stations? If Geoffs car doesn’t have aircon, maybe he could carry a towel to mop up his sweat, and then Lee could use this to cool his plug for a faster charge? I did check the date of the EVangelists post, and it wasn’t April 1st. High voltage electricity and a wet towel, what could possibly go wrong?

[@lynnerowlands5052]

Hey I have ever bit of faith in you Lee we will win this . team Lee the Mac Master xx❤

[@ItsBrillant]

Lee's #1 Fan. If he wins open that bottle of Jamesons❤

[@lynnerowlands5052]

​@@ItsBrillanthe can and pick it up don't drink Jameson . had, this for a long time now

[@keithdenton8386]

I have done this trip in an EV and a Diesel. Time about the same. Break every 3 three to four hours. Cost was a tenth of the price in an EV. Filling up was done off the Autoroute. I am wondering how Forrest Gump will mess this up. He will I am sure. This should be very funny.

[@ItsBrillant]

Forest Gump 😂😂 He's more Lennie Small. Forest invested in Apple Shares Invented The Smiley Logo and Ran Across The USA twice. He had Tekkers

[@helmethead72]

Bull crap. You’re fooling no one but yourself.

[@DwaynePipes]

​@@ItsBrillant Harry Worthless Benny Hill trip over a cable again. Frankie Howerd can it be to charge a car? Frank Carson hire purchase. Ken Dodder about looking for broken chargers. Peter Sellers a 911 guv? I'm here all week!😂

[@organickevinlondon]

the "Plum Plonker" couldn't even make it to Lands End, in his £120,000, 240 mile range, Tik Tok, or whatever he calls it, yet, I've managed to do that, quite easily, in my Mini Cooper Electric, with it's FANTASTIC 145 mile range, (from London, first stop Amesbury, Gridserve, next stop Honiton, BP Pulse, next stop, Lifton, Strawberry Fields Farm Shop, Pod Point, and "yer don't need to be a member of Mensa, to get that simple journey 100% CORRECT" LOL)

[@helmethead72]

@@organickevinlondon Sounds great fun🤪

[@purplegirl686]

Please tells us about the CPOs or eMSP apps you use - so excited to watch this!! Is this a round trip?

[@bentullett6068]

Don't forget your mandatory EU safety kit. Including spare bulbs, hi vis vest, warning triangle and breatherliser. Also your UK sticker

[@annebeignatborde1832]

Hi vis yellow vest and triangle are mandatory the rest of your list is not. Spare bulbs are a good idea though.

[@bentullett6068]

@@annebeignatborde1832 I thought that bulbs were mandatory. Last time we went to France that was one of the requirements, unless its something that the French only state as a mandatory requirement?

[@annebeignatborde1832]

@@bentullett6068 I live in France and I thought the bulbs were mandatory too. But the car I bought at the beginning of the year didn't have them whereas my previous one did. So I checked on the government website and there is no mention of spare bulbs. Same for the breatherlisers. I found a handful of those in the glove compartment but I remember that we were told they were mandatory, everyone went out bought some then it was no longer mandatory 🙄 I think someone's mates made a pile of money with that one.

[@richardhughes6757]

You should add 200kg of ballast to simulate passengers and luggage.

[@davesouthall3834]

My AC works fine. No appreciable diff to mpg on LPG that I can notice. LPG needs to be the future. Not electric.

[@ph8077]

They'll have to pry my RS5 Vorsprung from my cold dead hands...which, with the way I drive might be quite likely.

[@superglide6680]

Am just back from southern Spain. Didn't see any chargers anywhere. 🤷. No Aircon? Hhmmmm,, I hope your windows winders are working.

[@williamfarmer3841]

Is it illegal for an EV to go through the chunnel?

[@MrOriol24]

I drove my MX-5 2009 last summer. London to barcelona and back. Each trip was about £300 on fuel. And I did it in about 18hr (on driving hours). I reckon it would have taken me well over 25hr if it would have been with an EV. I value more time than money when i'm on holiday.

[@trandel]

Didn’t the Porsche get recalled due to the battery catching fire?

[@don1estelle]

Technically White is all Colours! 😂

[@geoffas]

Only in a light perspective. All colours in paints is brown.

[@theladyofthelakesFTs888]

@@geoffas, in terms of paint, white is no colour, so Geoff is right

[@geoffas]

@@theladyofthelakesFTs888 I'll his/your word for it. I'm not an automotive paint specialist by any means 🙂

[@andyfield6854]

And the winner is.......Geoff 😂

[@declanosullivan8749]

This is gonna be gas, Lee gonna be a few days behind :)

[@ellisjames8517]

If it’s diesel though Geoff it’s a no contest you’ll win easily. I did say petrol will make it a bit closer. I’d only have to fill up once to get down there in my BMW 120D

[@garysmith2137]

What could possibly go wrong.

[@robt2151]

Will you be taking Lee's suitcases for him? Just to help with the weight penalty.

[@infernoking7504]

For me a ice vehicle of a similar sized ev will always be better in terms of effecincy and time saving

[@idfisher]

Let's be honest here. Based on @Themacmaster's previous delays and late arrivals, Geoff will be there, have had a holiday and ready to go home by the time Lee gets there

[@robertsmith6297]

No AC! You're going to melt! 😬

[@noProphet550]

Rubbish, Lorry drivers have been doing journeys like this daily without air con. Man up.

[@Andy-zi1wj]

​@@noProphet550lorry's have had Aircon for many years

[@noProphet550]

@@Andy-zi1wj only in last 15 years and then its still not always a standard fixture, trust me been doing European work for 20 years and some trucks going down to Greece and beyond still haven't got that luxury.

[@geoffas]

@@noProphet550 I've driven from Brussels to the South of France (and back) dozens of times in the summer without air-con. I had no problems staying reasonably cool at all (apart from that one time the motorway traffic came to a halt for several hours in France).

[@davesouthall3834]

Ok I have a 2003 Merc ml 500. 5 litre V8. With LPG . I get 200 miles on motorway for about 30 quid. Low Ems. It's an AMG with big wide tyres as well.

[@danmcadie2515]

Why would you be interested in MPG with a 5 litre V8 that trundles to 60 mph in 7 seconds?

[@accidentalactor9306]

Ok, the car you need for that distance is simple....... Peugeot 508 2.0 HDI. For those who are not aware this cars particular claim to fame is the distance it can potentially travel on a full tank ( 72 litres) of fuel. The car can return around 74 mpg on long runs thus achieving over 1150 miles. Just pop a jerry can in the boot and you could do the trip without stopping at a service station.

[@micksroversmg558]

Wish a could join u on a challenge!! Got a 300k mile 300D W124 Merc now it's a comfy cruiser bit heavy on diesel compared too my Rover!!

[@lesklower7281]

Geoff keep all receipts on your repairs you do on your car and it may add to the value of your car and converted into Australian dollars it cost Lee about $100 to do 320 kilometres were to do 320 kilometres would cost us $25 to $30 in in our Suzuki Baleno and it cost us $15750

[@nataliehick5071]

Can't wait for this. When is it happening? Xx

[@GeoffBuysCars]

Be on the channel before month end 👍

[@marks7471]

Geoff! If you really want to win, get yourself a Bip and Go electronic toll payment, it works in France and Spain. Don't tell the moan master though. It will save you lots of time especially when you're alone in a RHD car. If you dont get one then when entering the toll booth, please put your hazard lights on, as to warn the people behind you to avoid following you. ( only applies when the toll booths are pretty free and you have a choice of which lane to go to)

[@siraff4461]

It would probably be cheaper and faster to stick the Porsche on a trailer and drag it there with a Transit.

[@Kaylee911]

Geoff is going to have to re-charge himself a lot if no air conditioning 😂😂😂

[@geoffas]

Or drive only at night with the rear windows rolled down ;-)

[@kevinmott6205]

Well good luck Geoff and Lee. This should be very interesting and entertaining😂😂😂😂

[@darrenwootton2007]

This going to be a fun trip.

[@MadIIMike]

You should check for a nice spot around 2/3 of the way, in case Lee is once again so far behind he has to give up before making it to the finish.

[@power2thepeople]

Good luck gents on your new challenge 😁

[@lloydmillership9682]

I've just done 964 miles over 4 days worcester to Sheffield return cost me £90 61 plate mondeo titanium x 2.0 diesel bargain I thought

[@danmcadie2515]

I've done 13500 miles over 23.5 hours for £790, London to Bangkok return, Boeing 767

[@Marcobelluchi-xl3gc]

No sure 100%, I heard Lee won the race because Geoff car got broken!

[@stanleymilgram4788]

Have you had your car checked for boogies, poo, other bodily fluid residue and traces of coke? Like on top gear?

[@lovecara1]

Looking forward to the road trip guys

[@vonlouie77]

I would love to see you do this challenge with a hybrid considering these were skip over

[@derekmartin4523]

If The MacMaster starts now he Might get there before you with the list that you have to do to fix your new old Volvo

[@matsv201]

Or just take the Portouth to Santader car ferry and you don´t need to swett what so ever.

[@ciupak7932]

22hrs.....that's at max legal speed limit without pit stops ✋️. ...going to be "nightmare" for McMaster ?

[@davesouthall3834]

Loving the USA link need a USA road trip Mac v Geoff. I now it may be rented. But rented are the fastest cars in the world.

[@alanhowemusic2457]

The hospital car park that has band Electric Vehicles until a new sprinkler system is fitted, what? Didn’t anybody tell them water is useless to put out an electric car fire as it’s not a normal fire, it’s a chemical fire completely different to a petrol or diesel fire in which case a sprinkler system would work on putting out an internal combustion engine fire. Who is in charge of this car park? They have been very badly mislead.

[@joetheox1202]

Didn't anyone tell you sprinkler systems don't contain just water? What makes you think they'd charge the system with water when they know what type of fire it's designed to fight? You've either been mislead yourself or you've just had a guess.

[@alanhowemusic2457]

@@joetheox1202 Many thanks for your comments. Problem is whatever liquid is being used in the sprinkler system it is totally useless, there is nothing that can put out a chemical reaction fire unless you have new information?

[@VisorView]

@@alanhowemusic2457 You are of course quite correct.

[@waynekaminski5438]

@@joetheox1202 Water is used to attempt to cool down the battery pack so that thermal runaway does not take place. However, no sprinkler system can supply the water volume necessary. So, the hospital is barking up the wrong tree to think that upgrading the fire suppression sprinkler system is adequate to "put out" a lithium-ion battery thermal runaway. All the system can do is try to keep the fire confined to the EV (not spreading to other combustible infrastructure) while praying that professional firefighters show up in time to manage the EV fire. EV fires present a real logistical problem reaching such EVs parked inside multiple story or underground parking structures, so it has to be on the parking structure owners to use advanced infrared fire detection systems. These systems can enhance emergency response capabilities (quick to detect the fire and call out fire departments) and also on battery pack manufacturers to come up with packs that are hardened enough to prevent punctures or electric current malfunction that are the usual source of EV fires.

[@opencarry3860]

BEVs use in the American west for travel isn't viable. Try driving from Boise Idaho to Las Vegas with a BEV and let me know how it works out. 😆

[@hazcat640]

I wondered how you were going to drive 1,200 miles in Brian. Maybe do a couple of laps of the island? Now I see you're driving across half of Europe. :)

[@barriewilliams4526]

Slow charge, wrong chip? How much evidence do people need to see where all this is going......

[@davesouthall3834]

Sorry Mac. No chance.

[@k.chriscaldwell4141]

There ain’t no “E” or “V” in roadtrip.

[@helicopter12345678]

How about an owner of EV that uses his car for local trips and can park at home how does that compare to diesel or petrol...or have i miseed that episode 🤔.not that i own or want to own an EV I'm happy with my BMW 530d....love this car

[@davep3969]

Electric Classic Cars just did a 2000 mile European road trip in 2 electric Ferraris. Having been to France and Spain many times, the charging infrastructure out there is much better than the UK and much cheaper too. But lets see how numpty boy Lee makes a hash of it. 🤣

[@paulnewman9275]

Not in the Costa Brava it isn't , hopeless. Electric Ferrari's ? - how horrendous..... might as well not bother really.

[@blueband8114]

Ha, ICE is going to be there and back before the EV gets there.

[@keithphilbin3054]

Can't wait for this one !

[@grahamwinn3712]

both the road and the melow bridge are toll roads

[@cp4512]

My money is not on the EV 😂