Man Realizes He Unknowingly Helped a Killer

[@johnhutsler8122]

Bro, if my own brother, dad, uncle, best friend, etc. showed up with a girl tied up and asked for a shovel, I would immediately hold them at gunpoint and call the cops. How tf did the cousin not get charged with something? He could've stopped the whole thing.

[@lindabergman3127]

Right Harold is just as guilty

[@EnydCrowfeather]

Yet he was whimpering about how *HE* feels bad and that's why he couldn't tell the truth sooner

[@grownmangamen9019]

If my best friend pops up on my door in that situation I don't wanna know shit.

[@ZeonGenesis]

"I don't wanna go to jail for this shit" ugh, all he cared about was himself

[@pierreluc5382]

​@@grownmangamen9019 you don't want to know shit but what if you still end up knowing shit because you saw shit?

[@Raspberrize]

She was so clever trying to answer all the questions of the operator without them realizing!! She really really tried.

[@jashuawood7631]

It hurts so bad, there's so many evil, fucked up people in this world.. she was fighting for her life the whole time...

[@maximumeffort78]

I absolutely believe she removed her ring intentionally. She made sure all the evidence was there! All she could, in every way.

[@xiaohuli96]

Wasn't smart enough to stay locked inside her house when a weird stranger drove by her house at least four times..

[@maximumeffort78]

@ I believe she was forcibly taken into her home with her 2 babies from her back patio, put them both in one crib to keep them safe, and left with him… in fear of her life and her children’s lives. Even if he knocked on her door for help and she opened it and was overpowered right there, doesn’t make her stupid. Alarm bells were going off within 10 minutes of her husband getting there. Wonder how quick you’d react? That was muscle memory, likely learned from her father. Also, that’s just a shit thing to say.

[@Amor-lz5sb]

@@xiaohuli96 thats cruel to say about someone who is dead. Men are physically stronger and capable of anything.

[@DiscoRatt]

Imagine beating on the windows and screaming for help and someone actually SEEING you but the cops never end up responding to it. That was completely tragic.

[@shyris466]

That was my immediate thought, too. This poor woman was fighting so hard, and it all just slipped away. I also can't imagine being the woman who called, and tried to follow him and help. Hearing that kind of scream really is blood chilling. And to have the image of her pounding on the window, and screaming that hellish scream, and knowing what happened to her? That'll break someone too.

[@neilsun2521]

Absolutely crazy. They just let the guy drive off to commit murder for 2 and a 1/2 hours.

[@Amor-lz5sb]

Never wait for cops .At the end they all suck.

[@misskarenvasquez]

@@Amor-lz5sbit wasn’t the cops that dropped the ball, it was 911 dispatchers. The cops did everything they could with the information they had as fast as they could aside from the responding officers, they should be retrained or find a new career.

[@dawnjones6138]

That is my exact thought! The 911 operators failed her 😢

[@domoniquer.4342]

I despise the cousin the most. Imagine seeing a girl clearly in distress with a relative and having the relative ask for a shovel, flashlight, and gas cannister and not immediately asking questions, stopping them from leaving, and calling the cops.

[@ccc4102]

Yes

[@shellyree5708]

Exactly!! And the audacity to want to remain anonymous. Thank goodness the daughter called, though it was too late 😔 The cousin, who provided all of those items and didn't stop him, should be charged with being an accessory to murder.

[@slb2904]

Some families believe in the saying "blood thicker than water ". No excuse when it comes to saving a life.

[@joeyblogsy]

He’s just as evil as the murderer.

[@holly7664]

More than likely because he has something to hide himself-either related to the situation or otherwise. Most of the time when you see someone behaving this way it’s not because they came from the best of families. He may have gotten in the way of police, but like they said in the video, the only person to blame is the scumbag who killed her.

[@Dessamator]

Denise was failed. She was so smart, and so brave. My heart hurts for her.

[@calliope4293]

Denise Amber Lee was a 21-year-old woman from North Port, Florida, whose tragic 2008 kidnapping and murder highlighted critical issues in emergency response systems. Denise was abducted from her home by Michael King, a man who had planned the crime in advance. Despite several 911 calls, including one from Denise herself during her captivity and others from witnesses who saw suspicious activity, miscommunication and delays in law enforcement response led to her death. The case became a turning point for advocating improvements in 911 dispatch systems, including better training, technology, and communication protocols to prevent similar tragedies. Denise’s husband, Nathan Lee, became a vocal advocate for enhancing emergency response systems and founded the Denise Amber Lee Foundation, which works to ensure public safety through improvements in the 911 system. The case underscores the importance of effective communication between 911 operators, law enforcement, and the public to save lives in emergencies.

[@SeanoMacSeanomac]

The 911 operator pissed me off!! When seconds count, the police are minutes away!!

[@imalwaysright]

Same. I was hoping this would turn out with good news. I feel so sorry for Denise and her family. Bless the cousin’s daughter that called police and tried to save her.

[@tallblonde1976]

@@imalwaysright I was hoping for a safe return for Denise. And the woman who heard her scream, and did the right thing by calling 911, but her call was misfiled!? So heartbreaking 💔

[@jiveturkey365]

She should have listened to her husband when he told her to at least close the blinds while walking around the house half naked. I'm not saying it's her fault but she could have helped PREVENT it...

[@brandymendoza1390]

Charge the cousin for accessory. He knew something was up and didn’t stop him. Then he wanted to “stay out of it”. Lock him up to.

[@drjonesey5]

Agreed. Cowardice needs to start being a criminal offense. If you see something, you say something, doesn't matter if it's family or not. You don't have to risk your life or chase the guy down (some good Samaritan's have actually done this and helped) but like come on, you see he had a bound up woman you don't know and you just "stay out of it" Hell no. I don't care who it is, I'm calling police and I'll fight you if I have to to stop you. I don't even like local corruption either. I have no issue fighting my partner if I was a cop and he did something wrong. I don't understand how people cower like this, unless they're just bad people too, it makes sense.

[@xoansuarezdorio8127]

I definitely agreed with that. Actually, that's a crime, according to the law. The denial of assistance to a person in danger is a crime. And not only that: he was also a direct witness to a kidnapping and clearly stated that he wanted to "stay out of it". Well, "stay out of it", when "it" is someone witnessing a kidnapping, with the tragic result of the victim being murdered (I convey all my sorrow to her father, her husband and her children. There are no words that I could say to console after something like this), that is punishable by imprisonment. And he gave him the shovel to bury the poor girl, so...

[@user-op8fg3ny3j]

​@@drjonesey5 cowardice used to be a criminal offence. Now it's only still recognised in countries with Sharia

[@joy-115]

Yes!!!!

[@OhPleaseMary]

Seriously! He gave him the shovel to bury her!!

[@Steezy93]

the family that let their cousin rekidnap the girl, borrow a shovel and gas tank should have got life in prison too.........

[@jennifermaddy2442]

Yes they could of saved her in that moment.His cousin knew & saw what was going on

[@Lore-hz8wz]

100%

[@Lore-hz8wz]

The fact that only the daughter called first is upsetting

[@socialbutterfly4146]

I live in the town this happened. I remember it like it was yesterday! So heartbreaking! There were so many opportunities for this poor woman to be saved. She should have been saved! This was a complete evil monster!

[@astarte66]

@@socialbutterfly4146I bet he would have done it again if they hadn’t caught him.

[@maxthemad19]

Props to Jane for noticing Denise screaming in that car and trying to get the plate. She was so determined to help once she noticed something was wrong. Jane has revived my faith in humanity, at least a little bit. RIP Denise, you were failed horrifically and should be here today 😔

[@HIGHER7RUTH]

Humanity are babies compared to what really pulls the thick strings here where we livevil silly🤫

[@Donny_Double_Dip]

Okay saying “rip” is a spoiler. Please respect the community and don’t post spoilers.

[@maxthemad19]

@Donny_Double_Dip how is it a spoiler ? This is a real case of a real person’s death. Spoilers are for fictional stories-this is, unfortunately, very real, and it really happened to someone. I’m showing my respects to the victim by saying “RIP” and anyone who clicks on this video should be well aware of what they’re getting into

[@Donny_Double_Dip]

@ okay bro. Double down on ruining the ending for everyone else. Real classy.

[@maxthemad19]

@@Donny_Double_Dip the title literally says “man unknowingly realizes he helped a KILLER” - you can’t be a killer unless you’ve already killed someone, so the title is already “spoiling” the case, if you really wanna look at my comment as spoiling anything to begin with. furthermore, you’re watching a Murder Case on a True Crime channel, so again, it’s not really a spoiler unless you somehow didn’t realize you were watching a True Crime case of a Real Actual Murder that happened

[@GrymSyns]

This is a stark reminder that you can do everything right, and still end up fucked because of other peoples incompetence and apathy.

[@VaughanMcCue]

I am like the rest of us on this page when we criticise the police. We are perfect, like Disney happy-ending movies; none of us have ever made a big mistake. One thing we know for sure is that God was too busy finding lost car keys to help in this situation.

[@kimwilliamsii2122]

In incompetence cases like this i really despise humanity

[@VaughanMcCue]

@@kimwilliamsii2122 Fortunately, there are two of us who are perfect. Everyone else should dispose of their mirrors.

[@XxHarmony63Xx]

I KNOW it's an absolute OUTRAGE! If that was my daughter... Well... I bet most people have the same thoughts.

[@sweydert]

​@VaughanMcCue Thanks troll.

[@gloriaalcaraz6694]

The cousin decided to be a coward rather than a hero. COWARD, COWARD, COWARD.

[@Sh3r-Bear]

No reason to lie! None, unless he’s more involved, protecting this POS or ignored a bound woman screaming to be saved. Pathetic excuse of a human! 🤥🤥🤥

[@Ett.Gammalt.Bergtroll]

He's an accomplice to murder. Should be in jail, too.

[@neilsun2521]

Worse than a coward -- he was complicit, really.

[@jonibright]

Yep, he failed her miserably, i believe some of this falls on him too. He could've saved her, right then and there.😡

[@mariastewart9820]

But at the same time,that man was probably was SCARED for his daughter ! If dude was that bold to bring a kidnapped woman to a relatives house,he is capable of anything !

[@tashibrissot8966]

If he felt comfortable enough to bring someone he kidnapped around his family that means this isn’t something new, if I were investigators I’d be looking at unsolved crimes in the last 15 years..

[@jonv1977]

And the family 😢

[@jillybean9563]

@@tashibrissot8966 He definitely had past behavior that was just kinda ignored and never brought to police attention. He exposed himself in a parking lot to a woman in her car, he brought a 15 year old to a hair salon for a haircut who he said he met online and began making out with her in front of the staff, and he also pretty much raped a woman. He invited a woman over and plowed her with alcohol (he did not drink) and when she woke up he was having sex with her. There were definitely warning signs. But, I personally don't think he intended to bring Denise around his family, I think he was desperate because he had already kidnapped and brutally assaulted her, and he needed those items to finish what he started. I believe he had NO intentions of his cousin seeing Denise, he walked up to his house alone, got the items and said his lawn mower broke down, and when he was walking back to his vehicle w/ the items, thats when the cousin saw Denise. Michael kept pushing her head down in the back, and sped off and said "everything is fine" right when his cousin questioned Wtf is going on. I'm just saying I don't think that Michael really was comfortable taking her to his cousin's, he just had no other choice, and he tried to hide her. But yeah, I wouldn't be surprised AT ALL if he has more crimes under his belt.

[@hurricanekitty6736]

I dunno, he’s sloppy AF. He definitely isn’t smart enough to get away with multiple murders…not on his own at least…

[@Grace-o6u8n]

Right, this guy was a creep & so is his family.

[@carlaanderson6987]

Exactly

[@jimmyesco7743]

I cannot imagine the pain of losing a loved one like this, I wish the worst for the killer and his cousin

[@Donny_Double_Dip]

You’re angry at the cousin, I get it. But put yourself in his shoes. Probably a weekend, had plans to get some house work done and then just chill. You want him to blow up his plans and fight a psycho? I don’t know, I get it.

[@nouhh3876]

Oh man that poor husband weeping at the sight of her ring... she was so incredibly loved. What a terrible loss of life.

[@OneLove101.]

That was heartbreaking ❤️‍🩹

[@glendaseguin5197]

That broke me.

[@ayetam_aye]

That’s what got me!💔

[@XRingcutter]

Wasn't too sad to sue the tax payers.

[@acmhfmggru]

Those police snipers in helicopters must be stopped.

[@otomesavesus6779]

this case hurts me so bad because she was so smart in how she handled the phone call, and that people were so close to saving her and just barely missed her... Her dad raised an extremely intelligent young woman. Her saying she just wants to go back home and see her babies.... it kills me... I cry over this case every time...

[@watsonspuzzle]

I couldn't even watch this once I realized who she was. She tried so hard. If things had gone her way just a little bit, she would have made it out. Just heartbreaking.

[@Reddzion]

@@TATTDIS humans having empathy and emotional reactions to others is normal, not a delusional state. Otherwise, by what you say, anyone that cried over 9/11 is "delusional".

[@SaintShion]

@@TATTDIS doesn’t ask stupid questions. We get it you’re so fucking edgy.

[@oi2715]

@@TATTDISsociopath

[@christinaoh7022]

After watching another documentary on this case several years ago, I’ve avoided watching any others until now, too hard. Just couldn’t bear to listen to her again, knowing what happened.😢 RIP Denise❤

[@Hphrtlss]

Im a former 911 dispatcher and they totally dropped the ball in many ways. I can say after this case numerous states did retraining so that it wouldn't happen in the states we worked in Hopefully at least. I cringe every time I hear the dispatcher with Denise and all she keeps repeating is hello. We are trained (at least where I'm from) to pick up on open lines and asking simple questions. Yes and Nos and she failed from the start. And she should have pinged the phone. This is such a tragic case that if people did their jobs maybe just maybe she would have survived. 😢

[@catserver8577]

If she would have asked yes or no questions, the guy would have known she was on the phone with 9 1 1. I don't think someone tied up in the back seat saying "yes" or "no" for no reason would be useful. I really think the operator did the best she could. I am thinking the responding officers did not move quickly enough. The operator seemed to catch on pretty quick.

[@val4382]

@@catserver8577 The dispatcher was not doing her job well.... She literally asked to turn down the radio .She failed to send help and She was also suspended because of her behavior.

[@toidIllorTAmI]

I completely agree. It was almost as bad as that one dispatcher who laughed and hung up on someone calling over and over thinking it was a prank.

[@Hphrtlss]

@catserver8577 we are trained to ask questions that don't just require yes or no answers but in some of that call the Dispatcher clearly could have gotten some in. She also asked her for her first and last name. That gave the perp a clue she had his phone. What sealed the deal imo was when she asked for her address. Those arent simple easy questions. I know I'm saying this in the aftermath of the situation but trust me I've been through calls one in particular that sticks out with this situation is hear the gun go off that killed my caller. The guy had no clue she was on the phone with me he just was there to do the thing and she gave me the answers I needed in the simplest of ways with the question's I asked. We can't save everyone but that Dispatcher should have tried harder. I'm sorry for my opinion but hell 18 yrs on the job where I live. I've been heard alot and my health has gone to shit because of the stress.

[@dianenaddaff9879]

I agree I was so frustrated hearing that 911 woman being a dunce. Clearly there was distress from that call and anyone listening! I even said to my husband this 911 person is a dunce. I blame her for a lot

[@Lm-ip7vx]

The phone operator is making me FURIOUS I cannot contain myself with the operators ignorance

[@sarinugh]

Agreed. As someone who was previously a 911 dispatcher, you can see on a map whether someone is moving in a car or staying in one area. And you can send officers in that direction while providing them all the information you’re getting from the caller.

[@jasonolinger7585]

They get calls all day that lead to nothing and she treated it like it was a joke, and yet was suspended for 30 days with pay.

[@BronzedBeast]

​@@sarinughreally? So when did Denise provide a location? The operator asked and Denise didn't know. They already knew what road she was on. That road happens to span for hundreds of miles that let out in many different cities.

[@sarinugh]

@BronzedBeast At the very least, you should provide what you’re seeing on the map. What direction they’re going and which city they’re approaching and pass that information along to ground officers, the helicopter, and nearby departments. You can also provide landmark information they are passing or nearby (a lake, a random gas station, etc.). Just saying “he took the phone from her” and be done is not okay. They should have also done an emergency ping with the cell phone number they received, and the phone provider would have been able to provide latitude and longitude coordinates to where the phone was last seen active. I would request a continuous ping as long as the phone was on. Detectives also listen in on the radios and don’t usually show themselves online so they could have started heading in that direction and searching for the car if they weren’t already in the middle of something. They did that a TON in the city I worked for. In the city I worked for we also had a radio that allowed you to broadcast to every nearby city’s dispatch center with the touch of a button where you could provide BOLO info and request assistance from neighboring cities if you need additional officers, a helicopter (we didn’t have a helicopter, but other cities did), etc. She could have asked her supervisor and/or the channel operator to say something like “BOLO for a vehicle headed into [city name] from the [cardinal direction]. A woman is screaming that she is being kidnapped. Sounds like a male was driving. We do not have vehicle description or names. This is for reference to any calls you may get regarding this. Please reach out to the [city] Police Department with any information.” And you 100% pass that information along during shift change. It does not matter how excited you are to go home. That’s something you write on your notes in huge, highlighted letters and leave for the next dispatcher to work off of. It didn’t sound like any of that was done from this video, at least. And after hearing 2 dispatchers were suspended, I wouldn’t be surprised if that one was one of them.

[@sarinugh]

@@BronzedBeast At the very least, you should provide what you’re seeing on the map. What direction they’re going and which city they’re approaching and pass that information along to ground officers, the helicopter, and nearby departments. You can also provide landmark information they are passing or nearby (a lake, a random gas station, etc.). Just saying “he took the phone from her” and be done is not okay. They should have also done an emergency ping with the cell phone number they received, and the phone provider would have been able to provide latitude and longitude coordinates to where the phone was last seen active. I would request a continuous ping as long as the phone was on. Detectives also listen in on the radios and don’t usually show themselves online so they could have started heading in that direction and searching for the car if they weren’t already in the middle of something. They did that a TON in the city I worked for. In the city I worked for we also had a radio that allowed you to broadcast to every nearby city’s dispatch center with the touch of a button where you could provide BOLO info and request assistance from neighboring cities if you need additional officers, a helicopter (we didn’t have a helicopter, but other cities did), etc. She could have asked her supervisor and/or the channel operator to say something like “BOLO for a vehicle headed into [city name] from the [cardinal direction]. A woman is screaming that she is being kidnapped. Sounds like a male was driving. We do not have vehicle description or names. This is for reference to any calls you may get regarding this. Please reach out to the [city] Police Department with any information.” And you 100% pass that information along during shift change. It does not matter how excited you are to go home. That’s something you write on your notes in huge, highlighted letters and leave for the next dispatcher to work off of. It didn’t sound like any of that was done from this video, at least. And after hearing 2 dispatchers were suspended, I wouldn’t be surprised if that one was one of them.

[@carris2scents57]

Who the hell gives a man a shovel gas can and flashlight to someone with a girl tied up in their car?!?! 😮

[@JimMilton-ej6zi]

Probably someone who is in fear for their life and thinks them or their family will be next if they don't cooperate. He made a police report, he's clearly someone who didn't want to do anything but likely felt like he had no choice in it because he doesn't want his daughter to be hurt.

[@eh1702]

@@JimMilton-ej6zi The cousin only made a police report his daughter called 911 and the police found HIM. If he was so scared, he could have called police AS SOON AS King left, to give them King’s name, description, car description & plate, phone number and home address. The cops should have rung the phone after the daughter called and warned King the game was up, and if she was still alive it would be better for him.

[@Beatrizzzle]

Someone who is just as sketchy as the kidnapper. I bet the only reason anything was done was because of his daughter

[@KB-nc7lw]

@@JimMilton-ej6zilol what? Did you watch the video? That dude did NOT want to help that girl. His only concern was him getting in trouble.

[@Grace-o6u8n]

Exactly. The whole family is SUS!

[@abiechartier4464]

Harold needs to be charged with withholding information and basically going along with this, no body in their right mind just gives someone the tools for murder and thinks nothing of it

[@shimmer8289]

A huge obstructing justice charge on Michael and Mike's buddy. They are imo not much different from him. Why they weren't charged and thrown in jail baffles me. Harold was accomplice to murder fave shovel, and the other tools what the heck did he think he was gonna do with a tied up women bring her out to dinner?

[@pleasestopurcrap]

He most definitely deserves prison

[@annettejones7777]

Whatever happened to guilty by association? If you see something, say something.

[@shimmer8289]

@annettejones7777 he was actually an accessory in my mind what did buddy think he was gonna do with a shovel and stuff?

[@nsahandler]

​@@shimmer8289 all of the stuff he asked for was appropriate for making a garbage fire or something similar

[@spacepandino1304]

Dispatcher: Hello? Hello? Can you put your kidnapper on the phone so i can tell him to turn down the radio?

[@D0NU75]

another one for the pile of failed cases thanks to a dispatcher

[@yvonneedwards9407]

She took awhile to get it OMG. I was screaming at her to sk better question s!!

[@WillButler-pe5rv]

She frustrated me so much. As soon as he turned down the radio he heard them.

[@uniquely__awkwardsimply__b2701]

I’m sorry but your comment caught me off guard 😂😂😂 ! It’s like these dispatchers are so clueless it’s almost comical

[@emilyquinn4901]

And also constantly asking questions expecting a reply of course she’s going to get caught out being on the phone. My heart breaks for this woman. She deserved better

[@chalbio]

That’s the most brutal phone call I’ve ever listened to. Poor soul

[@cherrybombliz]

This pisses me off so much. Every single person in his family that was involved with keeping this covered up should have gotten prison too. Just as guilty as he is.

[@auzieblo]

Not Harold's daughter.

[@Brandoncye]

Right! What happened to getting charged with withholding information, or getting charged for being an accomplish? 😢😢😢😢😢

[@zergu-yf3gd]

unwilling accomplice, and he informed on him. you gonna arrest the guy who told you about the crime cos he didn't tell you literally everything? like c'mon. it's very normal to not wanna get involved in police proceedings. don't blame him for trying to keep his own name out of it. it's a sensible idea. if the cops thought like this comment section he was 100% justified in hiding his identity. don't understand all these deranged comments about locking up the guy who didn't commit a crime, but reported one after realising what was going on. yeah he gave him the stuff but did he know at that time he had someone hostage? no he didn't know that, car was parked on the other side of the street. did he know his cousin was like this? probably not, guy had no priors. you don't automatically think 'murder' when someone you trust asks you for stuff, even if in the context of this ewu video it's highly sus. it's all context isn't it. he figured it out when he saw the girl, and he reported the crime. and y'all wanna lynch him.

[@CoffeeCrazy]

@@zergu-yf3gdwhen he saw the girl , why did he not stop him?

[@zergu-yf3gd]

@@CoffeeCrazy i don't know, maybe he was threatened with death, the guy did have a gun. maybe he threatened his daughter. i have no idea i can only guess. and you guys don't know either.

[@arrancarsoulcaptain]

the dad "wanted to be anonymous" but literally gave the cousin tools to help in his crimes. I can't believe so many ppl failed this woman. how can ppl be so evil. I'm usually not too affected by true crime stuff, but this was a hard listen. she did everything right 💔

[@erilanez3599]

I remembered the 1st time I heard Denise & her cries for help - it was 💔😢 …& seeing it Time n time again-It still is.Truth is it always will be, RIP Denise.

[@zenmeister68]

Florida

[@Donny_Double_Dip]

@@zenmeister68what is that supposed to mean?

[@yvonneedwards9407]

That 13year old was smart and her mom trusted her child’s instincts!

[@davidbutlerjydstrupes5383]

Just wow.... The way she cleverly talked to both the operator and her kidnapper. This girl did everything she could to let ANYONE know she was in danger. Seen banging on a window from the backseat while screaming... Jumping out of the car at his only stop while bound.... She wasnt giving up as long as she could muster the strength to fight. A true example to us all. And also? PAY ATTENTION PEOPLE. This girl really should still be alive with all the sightings and red flags she threw up. Just wow.

[@burlykim132]

Idc that Harold, the cousin didn’t call 911. I care that he didn’t intervene. I care that he gave his cousin all the tools he did, to hide the woman he saw fighting off his cousin, after she was murdered. I care that his daughter showed more integrity, courage, and morality than her father. Harold is not just a coward. Harold is not just a POS. Harold is a cowardly ass POS. Harold should also be in jail. What an absolute pathetic excuse for men these three are. I don’t think saying “the only man responsible for Denise’s death” is an accurate statement in regards to this case. Harold is also responsible.

[@JessieB980]

The lazy legal system only started with police response to the initial crime. There was ample evidence for Harold to be charged as an accessory to murder, and the fact that he never was tells me he was a good ol' boy in a small town. Not even gonna look it up, I guarantee that town's population is less than two thousand.

[@hungirl69cz23]

What do you mean you care?

[@Dotfye]

Harold is also responsible for making his daughter call and giving key information. By your logic harold shouldnt even have called because you arent happy until he fights the psychopath and gets stabbed

[@shut7353]

@@Dotfye He didn't need to fight him off. But he saw a KIDNAPPED WOMAN in his cousins car and gave him A SHOVEL AND A GAS CANISTER. That says enough. Even if he didn't intervene, even if he didn't want to call himself, he should of called his daughter right away. Because you know, seeing a kidnapped woman is extremely urgent. If he had called her right away it would of given the police a much bigger headstart on the chase. He knew his cousin was going to kill that woman and he waited.

[@Dotfye]

@ He did call right away? They mention that he made his daughter call before they could even trace the call sabrina made when she just got kidnapped??

[@biancaemily139]

nathans reaction to denise's ring completely broke me

[@misterdinkly]

Poor guy. He and his father in law tried so hard to find her. Even tell thebdetectives about how incompetent the responding police were and that they should be moving quicker. So sad.

[@PupcakesDogCare]

Same, thats when i finally lost it

[@Mohjoe62]

So sad

[@Sara.Rose.]

Me too, just couldn’t stop my tears

[@biancaemily139]

@@misterdinkly i hoped that since it was another law enforcement officer's daughter that those officers wouldve kicked the search into overdrive but they didnt even flinch :/ she would be alive rn if she went missing in her fathers jurisdiction 💔

[@ArJayDM]

22:05 she did everything so smart. She clearly left it there, knowing her husband would immediately recognize it. Crazy that she did everything so clever and still lost

[@carriepriegel6477]

Because that idiot operator FAILED💯, complete dereliction of her 911 duty.

[@Delicate_Disaster]

Denise having a cop as a father is the reason I believe that ring was in the car. She knew they would need easy evidence they could identify quickly to prove without a doubt that she was in the car if she had a chance of being found and returned to her family.

[@HailHydreigon]

This was absolutely heartbreaking. Very heroic of Jane and Sabrina to reach out to 911 with as much information as possible. R.I.P. Denise.

[@VaughanMcCue]

RIP Return if Possible.

[@NorthernWolf92]

​@@VaughanMcCue Grow up you absolute melvin

[@VaughanMcCue]

@@NorthernWolf92 Thanks for a great comment, albeit outdated, like this entertainment video.

[@h-rr]

@@VaughanMcCueliterally what are you talking about

[@natiramckinley3947]

Damn sad 😢

[@ShannonT78]

I remember seeing this story on several shows like Dateline, 48 Hours, etc. If his cousin Harold had called the minute he left his house instead of waiting hours before calling his daughter and then continuing to lie to police I have no doubt that they would’ve found her alive. What a tragedy 😢

[@bornfree0507]

He should be in prison too!

[@tallblonde1976]

I’m sure a lot of people gave him a hard time for being a big cowardly idiot, but yes he should be in jail for facilitating kidnapping and murder.

[@UBrickIFix]

He should've delayed him and called while he was there.

[@ellybean5868]

He is a coward and I hope he feels bad that he could have done something as simple as picking up the phone and calling 911 as soon as he left, but someone who doesn't have the decency to do it, I doubt he even feels bad

[@joy-115]

Also Harold gave him EVERYTHING he asked for to kill her

[@miaevans8725]

THIS DISPATCHER THOUGH?? STOP SAYING HELLO WOMAN AND LISTEN LISTEN!! I’m so livid right now.. the dispatcher can plainly hear this woman begging for her life JESUS!! Rip Denise

[@chilldudie242]

She don't care she black homie She there for the check and that's it

[@dinabaughman8731]

🙄

[@dinabaughman8731]

You should become a dispatcher.👍

[@chilldudie242]

@dinabaughman8731 stop spamming girl is this you in the video??

[@chilldudie242]

@dinabaughman8731 are you the dispatcher from the video??

[@terrybutler8634]

Incompetence should be seen as a crime. For everything other people who ignored and didn't follow through with any help nor did they call police. Rest in peace sweet girl.😢😢😢

[@brentgambrell]

“Can you cut the radio off or down?” WOW! Our first responders failed that lady and her family. RIP.

[@shikamaru281281]

That's a pretty reasonable question. Not knowing exactly what's happening, maybe they could have turned it down? It's easy for a fatass who already knows the outcome to make judgment calls. lol

[@Berrylide]

​@@shikamaru281281​​ omg your life must be so sad I can't believe you pasted that same reply under every single comment that raised this VERY valid point. It's funny you're both so rude yet starved for attention.

[@turnovertheleaf5505]

​@shikamaru281281 I HOPE you are not a 911 operator!! Your response is IQ'd negative.

[@leejtam0914]

@@shikamaru281281 its not a reasonable question for someone who is panicking like her

[@JessieB980]

The failures in this case were grotesque, but I don't think the operator committed any of them. That was a very confusing call to receive, and I think both she and Denise did the best they could to communicate within the context they had. That's not even saying the operator did "all the right things," I just don't think she had the tools or information to know what the right things were. It doesn't say if they pinged the phone, and if she didn't she certainly should have. But other than that, I think she did her best.

[@GSP-76]

Harold is just as much a POS as Michael. He knew exactly what was going on and did nothing. He even gave him the shovel. He should be in prison for life with Michael.

[@outdoorloser4340]

Agreed! I can't fathom being that much of a coward!

[@neilsun2521]

Harold the ultimate weak man. Epitome of loserville in that family.

[@cyn37211]

Yeah, they’re both stellar characters. You can tell they’re related

[@jaiyiddah]

The entire family is trash

[@ajnathan9490]

A shovel AND gas container ... Like he didnt know that, if he let his cousin leave, that girl was dead ...!! HE could've stopped her murder right there. He let a wife/Mother/daughter DIE so that his cousin wouldn't have beef w him!! COWARD

[@bawling4soup]

that useless bastard that let him leave with her should be beyond ashamed of himself. charged actually

[@ifeelbetterabouthis.louis3]

Exactly

[@nevaeh8255]

the dispatcher is just as much as a useless bastard, from how many of these videos i've seen, as a 17 year old as soon as i hear someone screaming i would immediately know how horribly urgent the call is on your end as a dispatcher to make sure as best as u can that the kidnapper doesn't find out that 911 is on the other end, it's plain common sense. sorry for the typos.

[@seriouslyforgetaboutit.9960]

may michael and harold never have a moment of peace. disgusting men.

[@xXebonyXroseXx]

The second I heard that he wanted to borrow a shovel from his cousin my heart sank. That poor woman and her family.

[@AmericanGirlBigFan]

unrelated but yooo supernatural profile photo and awesome username !!!

[@phe.mp3]

That dispatcher’s mistake is horrifying. I have empathy for them and how high stress it is, but wow. That was the difference between life and death.

[@Beautiful_Mess]

Our lives as law enforcement are in their hands as well as the public’s lives. They need no degree, nothing more than a high school diploma.

[@user-nf7ui7dz1z]

They should be required to have a brain at the minimum though.

[@Spacecowboy1997]

people make mistakes, even with a degree.

[@HollyWatson99]

@@Beautiful_Mess neither do law enforcement

[@chilldudie242]

Sounds like your empathy has been weaponized against you and used by abusers.

[@DeborahTanton]

Anyone who lied in the interrogation room should have spent some time in jail!!!!

[@bkpk4hisapplesauce]

especially if it's a HUGE lie!! and lying by omittion at such a magnitude was so negligent in his duty to be a decent citizen. he NEEDS jail time, even just a few months please SOMETHING like that's not okay and needs to be made an example out of.

[@PolochAngriff]

That operator did a terrible job. Yes/No questions. “Hello…hello….hello…” wasting every precious second.

[@littleencounters]

Yes, this was so stupid. They should be using their brain and treat the call with emergency. It seemed she didn’t take it seriously. I also had issue with the neighbor who saw the car going back and forth 4 times but she still thought the man looked normal.

[@PolochAngriff]

@@littleencountersseems to be a theme with a lot of 911 calls that get played back in life or death situations. Draw the operator who is just working their 9-5, seemingly annoyed with their call. Not saying all are bad or not invested, but Jesus, Denise said please 17 times and you are working an EMERGENCY line. Take. The. Hint.

[@littleencounters]

@@PolochAngriff agreed, not all are bad but this one just said hello hello. It was very clear the caller was in distress. What is making me more upset is a woman not understanding that another woman is in trouble.

[@marilynsmith365]

Denise, you did your very best for you and your babies! Rest in peace. 😢😢

[@Sara.Rose.]

Yes 😢

[@JimboBillyBob]

Do you legally have to be stupid to become a 911 operator? Also how does the guys cousin not get charged in all of this? He lends a flashlight, shovel, gasoline and knows that the guy has a woman tied up in his car and he gives it all to him and doesn't do anything to stop it until afterwards? If this cousin called the cops instead of being a coward and calling his daughter to get her to call, he may have saved a womans life.I bet Harold feels like he did the right thing but he should know that he is a piece of shit and only slightly less culpable to that woman's death than the actual murderer. Such criminal trash in that family, thank god for the daughter, she seems to have a moral compass.

[@Sh3r-Bear]

Absolutely well said!😢

[@Mathewson1G]

I think you do have to be dumb, get angry and ask stupid questions. I don't believe 911 operators can't ping your phone in 3 clicks or less

[@yvonneedwards9407]

Obstruction of justice at least!!

[@itwaslegendari]

forrealll

[@ThisIsSparta300]

Pings dont even tell you anything except which tower. Why doesnt big brother provide that kind of fucking info since they actually have it...​ its dumb as fuck@@Mathewson1G

[@NotIfWhen]

This poor woman did everything she could. My heart breaks for her

[@TimApple.]

Horrible story. Call Mike for short, but not for long. I hope he's living in hell. What a POS!

[@misterdinkly]

Real sad and vile stuff. Florida remains one of the most messed up places in the country. People are unreliable and untrustworthy. Still to this day.

[@AmericaPatriot-m8y]

And everyone who she came in contact with while she fought so hard failed her!

[@NotIfWhen]

@@AmericaPatriot-m8y that is the hardest part for me. How could you not help. ?

[@justiceLaw0000]

Every time I hear this story I hope for a different outcome knowing dam well what happens. This is one of the most haunting stories. Listening to her beg for her children’s well being. Her dad’s desperation and her husbands anguish. Everything is just so awful. 💔

[@samby08]

Those police officers who did not respond to Jane's 911 call, who saw Denice banging on the car window, should be FIRED!!! Instead they only got few hours / days suspensions?! WTF! Denice could be alive right now if they responded immediately.

[@c0f3324]

Agree

[@I.no.ah.guy57]

It was the dispatcher's fault, at least from what I understand. She didn't file it correctly or send anyone. Then there was a shift change apparently. But the dispatcher should have made sure to let SOMEONE know about it 😮‍💨

[@xxxxmimi]

That dispatcher only got 36 hours suspension, how da fuq does she sleep at night? She shouldve been fired and never be allowed to work for law enforcement again; ever.

[@tmaster2151]

Well POLICE OFFICERS DIDNT EVEN KNOW ABOUT THE CALL. The person who received it was a dispatcher.... someone whos only requirement for the job is to be able to type at a minimum speed in most states. She misfiled the call and no one ever knew about it until the dispatcher later admitted it.

[@almutstarke1344]

My own thought exactly ! Hor dare they failed Denise ! That cousin involved should have been charged aswell! Iam so so so sorry for Denise and her family !

[@maadNotorious]

Can you turn the radio down? Why certainly, I a kidnapped women, will tell my captor please turn the radio down while I talk to police on the phone u r looking for.....the most maddening and disheartening call for help u can ever hear made worse by this idiot dispatcher.

[@ajnathan9490]

Shoulda pinged that phone ASA she realised what was happening. Coulda got phone owners ID, got his vehicle records and had units swarm the area of the phone pings, w/in minutes, at a time when every minute counted ...!!

[@ckee8437]

And as ridiculous as it was she actually tried to get him to turn it down, I think that tipped him off too as it was a little suspicious 😢

[@anonymeister123]

I thought maybe the dispatcher was relaying information, and the party receiving that information had their radio up too high. That’s who she was talking to after the phone hung up as well.

[@msreneerr1109]

​@@anonymeister123NTF it wasn't she was asking Denise to ask to turn radio down

[@anonymeister123]

@msreneerr1109 she didn’t specify, so we will never know

[@miguelwilthsire21]

Finally a story were the husband isn’t involved.

[@redda2]

But another toxic male was

[@lethalexponent6]

Sounded like it from his 911 call

[@Taco_Raider]

Don't call me doater My big toe

[@scheezy]

@@redda2 He's not a "toxic male" he's a fucking murderer.

[@VaughanMcCue]

@@redda2 The toxins from some mothers keep flowing.

[@Delicate_Disaster]

As soon as I heard the niece's 911 call, I remembered this story. I forgot how insane it was! The first time I saw the Pooh Bear blanket, I broke out in tears. That blanket was one of the pieces in my first "big girl bed." I always felt so safe when I was in my bed, especially with my Pooh Bear blanket on. I can't imagine having that blanket be a piece of the worst day of my life. It made me so much more emotional while listening to this case.

[@BooTart]

I’m heartbroken. I was holding out hope till the very end that things weren’t going to end this way. Denise, you were a fighter, an inpiration to keep fighting, rest easy.

[@kacklina]

She caught him, and she did all the right things to trace him. It angers me so much she couldn't survive.

[@SPiRAh]

Suspended for 60 hours?! WTF IS THAT?! The lady following them could have been the key to saving Denise & they misfiled the call?! INFURIATING!!! I pray Denise’s family can find peace & healing.

[@amandaskywalker7331]

Her family at least lobbied to get a lot of changes made to the 911 system in her memory. So many failures that didn't need to happen.

[@GalaxyMagnate]

How could they find peace and healing? His wife was abducted and brutalized in all ways. Whats life got to offer for that family now? You make 0 sense.

[@amandaskywalker7331]

@@GalaxyMagnate People are able to go on with their lives after horrific tragedies. She left two children who deserve to grow up in a happy family - that's what life has to offer them.

[@hrmtty]

Imagine finding out that your dad not only did nothing to save a woman who was clearly in distress and being held against her will, but also gave her captor the tools to kill her. And even after the captor and the woman left, instead of calling the authorities to report it, decides to call you instead. I would never EVER trust him with anything again.

[@katezalapi-bull5093]

i hope Sabrina is doing okay. it could not have been easy making that call when her own father and other family members were basically sweeping it under the rug, it shows a lot of courage

[@anttihakkarainen1520]

Well I mean, type 911 and tell 'em your story..?

[@HelloImBrettipher]

@@anttihakkarainen1520Denise did and look what happened to her. Use your brain bro

[@katebridgwater9089]

Um she’s dead 🤦🏻‍♀️

[@HelloImBrettipher]

@@katebridgwater9089 that’s Denise not Sabrina lol

[@GO-ej1pg]

@@anttihakkarainen1520qqaSD

[@Aubtoonice17]

Some of these dispatchers really blow my mind.. did she ask that lady to tell the kidnapper to turn the radio down?? Like he was gone listen

[@PunkMozh]

That's what I was saying, she was really bad at this game :( hopefully she got better at it

[@padtixx5441]

It does annoy me that sometimes these 911 operators sound either bored or annoyed with people calling them

[@Mathewson1G]

​@@padtixx5441 "could you PLEASE not scream so much and so loud, gosh. ungrateful 🙄"

[@imaginedmountains2311]

To be fair, she probably couldn't quite understand the caller, hence the questionable answers.

[@shantygauthier8377]

i find it actually disgusting to know she will probably keep her job and do it again. Really sad

[@maddy.doesart]

21 years old. Starting a family. I just turned 20 yesterday; this is so jarring to listen to… absolutely heartbreaking. So close yet so far, rest in peace sweet girl

[@Toruntk]

I think you need to put 2 question marks there otherwise your comment is confusing. Like you’re 21 but just turning 20? Are you aging backwards?

[@maddy.doesart]

@@Toruntk They said in the video the girl was 21 years old, and starting a family…😭

[@thetruthisonlyperspective4872]

I hope you're smart enough to know creeps and rapists are real and don't go around in panties

[@tjewett1967]

She was just 21 with a child over 2. She "started her family" before she was 18 most likely with her older husband. Possibly a crime in itself, but it is Floriduh where they lobby for 12 year olds to be able to get with adults.

[@nixswanner2958]

​@@thetruthisonlyperspective4872 victim blaming mentality at its finest.

[@Meshugas]

It broke my heart- she was so smart and brave to take that opportunity to make a phone call to 911. She had her family on her mind, mentioning her love for her husband and kids. Denise, her husband, and her children did not deserve this and were failed by incompetence, apathy, and cowardice.

[@kristin8932]

The thought of Denise not only calling 911 and begging for help, being petrified, and then on top of that banging on the window and screaming next to Jane's car, is haunting. And Jane actually was awesome, trying to help and give dispatch information. I hope Michael's cousin feels horrific guilt for the rest of his life, he had a chance to do something and didn't, what a pos.

[@extremesurvival2755]

Too bad the dispatcher was more worried about clocking out and going home than relaying the call to officers

[@ericfrandsen1973]

The cousin should be thrown in jail too. What a moral coward.

[@bennyboy2079]

I know ....he shouldn't be even sharing our oxygen

[@BrightNights645]

*Immoral not moral.

[@ragnhild2674]

24:40 Him complaining about being held against his will is infuriating.

[@AfroMestizAzteca]

Suspended for 60 hours and another dispatcher suspended for 36 hours? A mother/wife/daughter lost her life as a result of their neglect!!!

[@DeborahTanton]

The failure of the 911 dispatcher to immediately send help is a tragedy!!!

[@bobbyboombatz1489]

They are dei hires. I've had a few times dealing with stupidity.

[@matthewishunting]

Unfortunately dispatchers don't have the ability to track phones like they do in the movies. Life isn't the movies. Triangulation a cellphone only gives you an approximate location and if they're traveling, it's very difficult. It's not like she had a "send swat team" button to press and just failed to press it.

[@EaglesQuestions]

​@@bobbyboombatz1489 Cringe, dude.

[@haileygoofy8454]

​@@bobbyboombatz1489 youre a fool.

[@cataclysm17]

@@bobbyboombatz1489 This case occurred in 2008, 16 years ago. Do you really think the ‘woke agenda’ was underway in 2008? Just because you think that every instance of perceived incompetence is caused by a “DEI hire”, (a term which certainly isn’t just a stand in for bashing minorities) doesn’t mean your belief is consistent with reality.

[@loyaltyloyalty4614]

That 911 call broke me.. her begging to go home and see her babies.. that broke my heart I’m a mother and I’m sure every Mother cried hearing that call!! R.I.P. beautiful angel 💔😢

[@PupcakesDogCare]

Im still crying 😢

[@daniellefarrow7956]

I haven’t stopped yet. 💔💔💔

[@jessicacrabbe1209]

Yea. It broke me. Begging for her babies. 😢😢

[@LLKOOLK8]

Well that call is fucking heartbreaking, I don’t think I’ll ever be able to get it out of my head, she sounds so scared. RIP Denise, you were very brave, you fought to live and more should have been done to help you 💜

[@shawnatrent5893]

Truly. You see stuff in movies but to hear a real call of a real woman. It's terrifying and heartbreaking. When she says she has a beautiful husband my heart broke. You know she was thinking about their whole life. Any of the bad times out the door. In that extreme moment the truth of who you love and need most. Just so so devastating. Unpopular opinion and i dont care, People that can hurt other people unprovoked, only selfish desire or greed or anything honestly, if they take that life they should be gone too. In most situations it's very easy to discover whether it was on accident or intentional. Accidents and mistakes should be rehabilitate. Outright murder should be death. You don't have to full throttle eye for an eye. I'm not even religous. Someone who steals shouldn't lose a hand, but if you purposely take a life and your own is not in danger sorry you gotta go.

[@lacyc376]

Same I’m having a hard time watching and it hasn’t even been a minute and a half yet

[@jsim92480]

What is most disgusting is the fact that King's cousin Harold didn't want to get involved. Was so reluctant. He should have helped her when they stopped at his house. Her death is at much on his hands, letting King borrow a damn shovel from him. Disgusting.

[@jsim92480]

WHY do men keep covering for someone that, sure, is a buddy, but seriously?

[@sunshinesunflowers721]

I live near where this happened and will NEVER forget this case. Hearing the 911 calls is heartbreaking!

[@kimmiegirl810]

So do I. This is so tragic😢

[@blazinbutter6677]

The amount of incompetence is so frustrating. The dispatchers, the missed witnesses, the dumbass cousins that saw everything but didnt stop it. The girl was smart as hell and did everything too from banging on the car windows to stealing the phone and calling 911.

[@misterdinkly]

The woman in the far that witnessed the screaming and kicking at the stop light. She was so concerned but didnt follow the car or at least try once she took the wrong turn. She couldve and should saved a life that night by following. Cowardly and lazy from everyone.

[@jeannafoxall6519]

Remember the dispatch told her NOT to follow. She repeatedly asked 'Should I follow?' She was advised by 'pros ' not to.

[@misterdinkly]

@jeannafoxall6519 Where do you get that bogus info from? The driver asked if she should follow. The dispatcher asked her supervision if the driver should follow. After a long wait the supervisor gave the green light to follow and the dispatcher told the driver to follow the car if possible. The driver said they took another road and she wasnt sure if she could get over in time and then catch up. What are you actually talking about? The driver didnt need to ask for permission in the first place. Any normal person worried enough to call 911 on a screaming kid, is going to do the right thing and follow. Secondly, the supervisor should have made a quicker decision and the driver would have been able to follow once given "permission". The dispatcher and supervisor failed to relay the info to the neighboring county. So many people failed.

[@ZeonGenesis]

@@misterdinkly The dispatcher should've said yes right away. I think the issue was they both knew that following the car was risky, but she should've just done it, followed her gut on this. Tragic.

[@MazzieMay]

Jesus. You can do everything right and it doesn’t matter. Denise put on a clinic of self-preservation and quick thinking, and her family’s consolation prize is her Herculean effort unrewarded

[@AmbuBadger]

Just like that teenage kid who got trapped in his mom's minivan when the back seat folded down on him, he used Siri to call 911 and gave his location and vehicle description, and the ball still got dropped. Same for the woman who crashed in a river and was drowning.

[@notthesame8991]

Yes! And yes! ​@@AmbuBadger Exactly what I thought of

[@exoticalBecky_Miami]

​@@AmbuBadger That is worse than hell as a parent...that case haunts me. It hurts. My kid was learning to drive, had an iPhone :( it hurt so much. Infuriating

[@chilldudie242]

​@@AmbuBadgeruntil narcissism is outlawed, we will be surrounded by proud fools

[@odlfmariner470]

​​@@chilldudie242Shut up about narcissism man. The internet is full of narcissists calling other people narcissists. It's ironic.

[@broadwyjam]

This is heartbreaking. I'm so sorry, Denise. Your Husband turned his grief into action to help other people and to honor your life. God Bless this family🙏🏼

[@Ariesgal]

"Whats your home address" what the hell is that going to help with. She told you her name. Those moments on the phone were CRITICAL. That dispatcher blew it.😢. And the cousin needs to be charged as well. Youd have to drag me to hell to keep me from letting my cousin leave with a woman tied up. Omg 😢

[@CSpottsGaming]

They were trying to confirm that she was actually the kidnapped person. While dispatch definitely failed her, that wasn't one of the ways. People call in pretending to be victims, so they were attempting to confirm that she was really Denise Lee and that the information they were getting wasn't from a person who would ultimately have led them away from the real kidnapping.

[@bangtanshit578]

"can you turn down the radio down?" LIKE YEAH OF COURSE I CAN ASK MY KIDNAPPER TO TURN IT DOWN SO YOU CAN HEAR ME GETTING KIDNAPPED. Seriously this 911 responder is hands down stupid in handling the situation

[@Sweetheart-girly]

Yeh, she need some jail time, so the message is...if you do stupid things you got consequences! Hope she read this comment today's.😊

[@Riseabovelotus]

I CANNOT believe how many people failed her; It is heartbreaking and infuriating. I pray for her husband and her kids. RIP Denise. ❤

[@operacarmen]

Actually they failed her because she called 911 and it was routed to her dad's police department.. and since the department focused ALL RESOURCES to find her (although it's out of investigation jurisdiction) they IGNORED HER because they were focusing on Denise lol it didn't occur to them she is the same person lol, even phone operators were only focusing on helping the fellow police officer' daughter and decided to ignore all unrelated calls! Funny thing that the dad sued his department for their nepotism! Crazy world!

[@louis.b333]

There is no compensation or apologies for having your wife snatched from your life and then to find out it could have been prevented. Absolutely disgusting 😢😢

[@meems4378]

Oh god. I remember this case. The rage I felt for her and her family. It's kept me up at night some nights. She does everything right.

[@newnamewhodis1]

I wish the kidnappers cousin and his family wouldn't have let them leave, i bet Denise's heart just dropped when they left out from over there to her demise. 😢

[@imaginedmountains2311]

Makes a man hesitate to get married doesn't it?

[@toidIllorTAmI]

​@imaginedmountains2311 the lack of Men was the problem.

[@stevnated]

@@imaginedmountains2311 ? Because you fear your wife would be kidnapped?

[@odlfmariner470]

​@@imaginedmountains2311what does this even mean?😂

[@mcmaldek]

​@@odlfmariner470 it means he will find any excuse or justification for why he cant get a woman. Hes probably "picky" too, "only dates" 5'6½" 112 pound half Japanese half Argentinian, women with blonde hair and blue eyes.

[@jrrrr838]

“the 911 operator caught on to the dangerous game being played on the other end" yeah after asking hello hello hello hello 7 times for 30 seconds. what a fucking joke

[@carlosheehee46]

Was she supposed to stay silent or something? 😭

[@SamanthaLeigh7]

The multiple missed opportunities in this case are SO SAD. While I feel horrible for her and her whole family, I feel especially bad for her poor father.

[@yourdad1367]

I’m a CJS major and I’ve watched tons and tons of these types of videos, but for whatever reason, this one… this one seriously disturbed me.

[@ad6417]

It probably disturbs you because you know that victim did everything she could to get out alive. All the people that are trained to get her out alive failed. And of course the witnesses were useless. It almost makes you wanna give up on humanity.

[@floflo8164]

i can say the same. i hold all the crime cases i watch in high regard with utmost compassion for those affected, but this particular case is so devasting, it physically hurts in my chest

[@andiward7068]

There were multiple opportunities for a good outcome that weren't taken. She did everything possible to get help and didn't get it. When bad things happen to good people through no fault of their own it's a reminder we don't have as much control over life as we'd like to believe.

[@outlawJosieFox]

The cousin has a daughter himself but no empathy for Denise, her family, her children. Disgusting.

[@AP1977plus2]

That operator is the most ignorant person I ever heard in my life, Where did common sense go during this call? Clearly the person is distressed, and you as the operator can't put two and two together.

[@karyne826]

Should have be charged too

[@MaeBonacci14]

Really STANDARD TRAINING I hear 911 calls and these DISPATCHER'S sounds RUDE AS HELL

[@nobodymatters3294]

This one i can't watch, i want to jump in the story and save her.

[@lengw12]

Poor momma taken from her children like that, so young... And her poor husband and sons 😢 how sick and twisted does one have to be, I'm livid

[@imaginedmountains2311]

Well I'm glad you didn't, her being a murdered and all..

[@liljes34]

It’s truly horrible hearing her pray to God and get killed

[@imaginedmountains2311]

Please justify your political stance, because I cannot understand where you are coming from.

[@Gyowei]

​@@imaginedmountains2311 This is not a real person btw

[@otcubaba]

36 hour suspension for a fatal mistake.. what a joke

[@I.no.ah.guy57]

Wasn't it 60 hours?

[@Vaannahh]

THESS DISPATCHERS ALWAYS PISS ME TF OFF ENTIRELY

[@saxifrage-q3h]

Me too! I literally can barely stand the STUPID.

[@Beautiful_Mess]

We had a dispatcher in our EOC that was completely inept. I didn’t know how she got hired, she couldn’t even spell basic words when entering information. I worked on the road, and after a week of her, I had to go to the Sheriff. It was that bad.

[@Beautiful_Mess]

Dispatchers need no degree, just a high school diploma. They should at least have a communications degree at minimum. They get on the job training, and boom, your life is in their hands. Very scary for law enforcement as well as citizens.

[@WaynesPokeWorld]

Same. I guess you don’t need any kind of qualifications to answer a life or death phone call.

[@stevnated]

SAME! I can only assume they get a TON of prank calls all day every day and that's why they always sound so skeptical and jaded.

[@tigerprincess1109]

Anyone else notice how indifferent and nonchalant the 911 operator was? Denise was fearing for her life and the operator sounded like she could care less what was going on.

[@Nana-jy8pc]

They need to make more requirements to become a 911 dispatcher. There are far too many cases of dispatchers making life threatening mistakes or just being insensitive and stupid while talking to people currently in danger. Like that one case where the woman was put in a barrel by her husband and managed to call 911, the dispatcher thought it was a prank call and accused her of faking instead of immediately taking it seriously. The woman could barley breath and was going in and out of consciousness and the dispatch literally asked “so are you gonna talk to me or just breathe loudly into the phone”

[@ZeonGenesis]

They shouldn't assume anything's a prank until there's clear evidence. Better safe than sorry, because anything but costs lives

[@cristinaestrella]

FRR??? What the hell is wrong with these dispatchers dude omfggg.. what case was this? and did the woman make it out?

[@Nana-jy8pc]

@ she did survive I believe her name is Teri Jandusa Nicolai , someone did a video on it on KZbin that included the phone call

[@kariely7541]

right?!! i feel like there should be some kind of written script for dispatchers if someone is in danger and not able to talk openly like in this case.

[@hutt716]

AFTER the 911 call and they got the number she called from, why weren't they IMMEDIATELY in the process of pinging the phone? She was alive for hours after that so... they had plenty of time to ping the phone.. yet they didn't... I mean.. just WOW. These cops were EXTREMELY incompetent. The family should sue them due to their incompetence and/or lack of effort.

[@Jenni-Martikainen]

This happened in 2008, so at that time they couldn’t ping the phone like they can nowdays

[@aviannapenn4421]

that 911 operator pissed me off the way she kept saying “hello”

[@boganshazz821]

It was that, but the asking to get them to turn the radio floored me🤯

[@wesner326]

Total incompetence!

[@shikamaru281281]

@@boganshazz821 That's a pretty reasonable question. Not knowing exactly what's happening, maybe they could have turned it down? You know, so they could hear? It's easy for a fatass who already knows the outcome to make judgment calls.

[@boganshazz821]

@shikamaru281281 True, under the exact same circumstances, I'd probably ask the same thing🤦‍♀️ To add, I had no idea of the outcome when the disdain I felt for such an assinine request was evident

[@HelloRando]

@@boganshazz821 If you took emergency calls seriously you would say something like "are you in danger right now" Cough once for yes or twice for no etc. Standard stuff if you are an emergency call operator actually expecting an emergency situation of the other end of the line. There are far too many of these types of calls, operators not taking them seriously and even mocking callers - and as pointed out. There was no standardised training before this.

[@BookishDark]

Jane and Sabrina did absolutely everything necessary to help immediately and Denise was still failed by everyone else. Michael’s friend and cousin were COWARDS

[@GEOMETRICINK]

This story has always haunted me. This woman should have been saved. There were plenty of opportunities.

[@seahawks366]

Such a heart breaking story, i really thought the cops were gonna catch him in time. So sad how man people messed up that day!

[@poppergurl]

I can't believe they missed her by a couple hours this is heartbreaking. She was completely terrified.

[@MCBRUCE76]

Not everybody is qualified to be an 911 operator, especially those who don't have presence of mind. No wonder there is so much training which goes to call center employees to look for signs in a customer. A 911 operator, on the other hand, should be 100% vigilant for signs and good presence of mind, it doesn't matter how silly a call might sound.

[@ashleymcgrath934]

I can’t get over how many individuals had the chance to change the outcome of life or death.. There were so many missed opportunities it’s absolutely ridiculous!

[@smilesfoutch6996]

I love this channel but it hurts me knowing so many evil people exist to keep giving you guys content.

[@kalnfornia]

I think we would all be shocked as to just how many evil and sick people walk amongst us

[@outdoorloser4340]

Advanced Self Protection is a fantastic YT channel to watch for a few months. I learned a ton and I sleep more soundly at night, and I'm a 6foot+ adult male in a "relatively safe area"(whatever that means).

[@ElOhEl1001]

@@outdoorloser4340 I also watch ASP! Agreed

[@smilesfoutch6996]

@@outdoorloser4340 I have plenty of personal training alongside professional training, so I don't necessarily fear for me nor my families lives due to the training and my location But on the other hand I've watched enough of EWU to know it doesn't matter the area you're in, it's the monster that may be living in that area.

[@smilesfoutch6996]

@@outdoorloser4340 but also learning even more from professionals doesn't hurt either, I'll definitely check them out.

[@TheEightfoldPath_]

That cousin should have been charged with aiding. I mean, how on earth do you not do anything to stop that?? So many red flags, yet he is as obtuse and noncooperative as you can get.

[@tigergumby]

He's a chickensh** a-hole. Didn't want to get involved when it came to the police part, but sure didn't hesitate to give body disposal items to someone who had a screaming tied up woman in their car.

[@mah3223alia]

No! Someone brings a tied up and distressed girl with into your house asking for petrol amd a shovel and you just let them drive off? You dont want to be involved? Shame on you.😡

[@YaneFeifei]

Seriously! My 12 year old daughter has more guts🤦🏻‍♀️ you’re telling me a grown man doesn’t want to ‘get involved’ ??

[@aregilerp]

I watch a lot of crime stories and this just made me cry. She desperately did her best to help herself.

[@thetruthisonlyperspective4872]

Only after she went around open windows on a road facing property basically naked, sure. Gotta be smarter than this ladies

[@aregilerp]

@@thetruthisonlyperspective4872victim blaming, okay.

[@birdie5507]

Only a nutter would say that..

[@12wer3wer9]

​@@thetruthisonlyperspective4872next to the million other things we have to do just to exist as a woman in this fucked up world. Most of the times it's not even an unknown man we have to worry about. A lot of the time it's the husband or a family member that causes the harm.

[@nixswanner2958]

​@aregilerp they keep replying that shit on a bunch of comments trying to stir shit up

[@logos9869]

Wow! Denise was so smart and courageous playing the kidnappers like that

[@babshudson2235]

So many times this smart young Woman could have been saved, she Herself gave them so many opportunities. She was failed so many time. RIP Denise.

[@second2nonebut1]

The operator dropped the ball bad. Ping the damn phone!!!! Stop asking her questions and read whats going on