Exploring Elder Scrolls: Sheogorath and Jyggalag

[@sugarapplesweet]

There is one point I'd like to argue. Although Jyggalag returns and conquers the Shivering Isles once every era, there is NOT a new champion of Sheogorath every era. In the expansion, Sheogorath says so Himself that this is the first time He ever thought to have a mortal take His throne. Mantling him or her as the new Madgod. Haskill confirms this. So yes, the character of Oblivion was the first mortal to succeed defeating Jyggalag, but also the first mortal to ever attempt it! Quite fantastic.

[@TheExploringSeries]

So, that idea is taken from the Interview with Haskill posted here: www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-gb/news/post/25313 Specifically where he states that he is a vestige, "all that remains of a mortal from your world who 'mantled' Sheogorath during an event in a previous time. As a fragment, my memory of the event is … fragmentary. I am hazy on the entire concept of 'mantling,' but it had something to do with Lord Sheogorath, myself, and this Jyggalag of whom you speak." Whether or not you want to accept that as canon is up to you.

[@Eric-yt7fp]

I take that to assume Sheogorath had wanted Haskill to take on his role, but failed.

[@goolabbolshevish1t651]

TheExploringSeries that mortal was likely from a previous Kalpa (time line) as time in the elder scrolls is circular.

[@sancturillore]

Furthermore, if a mortal could take Sheogorath's place each time, it would mean that Sheogorath would be freed of his curse each time, which doesn't make sense. Sheogorath turned into Jyggalag and destroys the Isle. If he's beaten, then the champion can become the new Sheogorath and Jyggalag doesn't become Sheogorath again, thus being freed of the curse. As such, the new Sheogorath isn't Jyggalag and never will become him like in the events of the DLC. After all, Jyggalag is now doing his own things elsewhere. As such, that statement was likely about either Haskill trying to take on Sheogorath's role, but failing, or about the same events that the player character go through, but in a previous kalpa with a different mortal.

[@skbartistry2473]

I don't see the fantastic part in it. Jyggalag wants everything to follow the plans he have laid and cannot tolerate original thought. The character of Oblivion was a "once in an era" champion and hero and thus had to use vast amounts of original thought. Most likely way more than what Jyggalag could possibly expect. So the champion defeated Jyggalag by praying on his weaknesses. Those being what he couldn't tolerate

[@TizerakYT]

By ganging up on Jyggalag and cursing him, the other Daedric Princes created something far more volatile and cunning in Sheogorath.

[@wafflingmean4477]

Which in a way represents the very idea of Sheogorath. Madness and unpredictability. In an attempt to defeat their most dangerous opponent, they created the most annoying being any of them will ever encounter in the whole damn universe. I like to imagine Sheogorath finds that hilarious.

[@Mikanoes]

Hircine after his monster was defeated by a tiny bird: "...you know, I almost preferred it when you were trying to murder my followers and conquer my realm, you annoying little bugger."

[@jyggalagthedaedricprinceof8459]

I will commit my revenge against the other weak Daedric Princes

[@JadeSpecter]

@@jyggalagthedaedricprinceof8459 Good luck, will make an interesting story to tell

[@jyggalagthedaedricprinceof8459]

@@JadeSpecter Don't worry, It will

[@EastsideShowSCP]

I always found Sheogorath such an interesting character

[@PSNSMANIACALMIND1st]

Eastside Show SCP Well, if it isn't the best SCP reader. Cool to see you're into Teslore too.

[@EastsideShowSCP]

I am more into the lore of Elder Scrolls than the games, but I still hold Morrowwind as my favorite in the series

[@jyggalagthedaedricprinceof8459]

Jyggalag is better. I am Jyggalag

[@flashrose2496]

Same sheogorath has to be one of my favorite characters

[@motorcycleman115]

You gotta love this guy. He’s the safest Daedra to interact with and still entirely unpredictable. Jyggalag would make for a great antagonist in elder scrolls 6 too.

[@probablyanoldgod320]

All about animation I wouldn't say the most safe... His entire unpredictable behavior in my opinion makes him the least safe. You know what you're getting into interacting with Molag Bal or Mehrunes Dagon for example.

[@motorcycleman115]

Filthy Nwah with all those other Daedra you’re gonna got your shit wrecked, pardon my language. Sheogorath is at the least survivable, even if he inflicts you with insanity.

[@RadagastXIII]

All about animation Sheogorath is a wild card. His unpredictable nature simultaneously and paradoxically makes him both less dangerous and more dangerous than his peers. He is certainly not the most survivable though. Provided you don’t earn their enmity, that distinction would likely go to Meridia, Sanguine, Azura, Malacath, or Nocturnal.

[@peeweeherman9411]

Every other daedric prince:I'm very powerful obey me servant Sheogorath: CHEESE!

[@rakkatytam]

I would say Meridia and Azura are safer to interact with

[@MrSyn7fold]

I think Jyggalag is behind the rise of the Thalmor, their obsession with Order and control mirrors the Daedric Prince of Order too much, also the Thalmor rose to power about the same time Jyggalag returned. With the Thalmor wanting to destroy the final towers and the towers being the only thing keeping Jyggalag from conquering all of Nirn...

[@Mikanoes]

...why does this make so much sense? Refusing to accept Talos, because he is a change to their beliefs, even though the Divine Crusader is proof that Talos is real. Manipulating the civil war so that it will go in exactly the way they want it to, leaving no room for chance or unpredictability. Trying to snuff out all original thought. ...holy monkeys...does someone want to check on the divines? I think Jyggalag might have stolen one of their mantles and is manipulating the Thalmor.

[@jyggalagthedaedricprinceof8459]

@@Mikanoes 😉

[@jyggalagthedaedricprinceof8459]

😉

[@Mikanoes]

@@jyggalagthedaedricprinceof8459 ...how dare you...first you take over the body of our favorite Daedra, then you try and kill the Hero of Kvatch, THEN you lead a Thalmor invasion of the Empire! Does your lust for conquest know no bounds?!

[@jyggalagthedaedricprinceof8459]

@@Mikanoes No, It really dosen't (IDK whether Jyggalag is the creator of the Thalmor BTW)

[@wafflingmean4477]

If Jyggalag is so dominant over logic that he can predict every event that will ever happen and kept this in a library, could this mean he would end up in some sort of conflict with Hermaeus Mora? Mora covets all knowledge, and this would be an extremely great prize for him. I wonder if this would lead them to conflict, or perhaps even cooperation in the times to come. It's interesting that two Daedric Lords with so much reason to at least in some way associate with one another both featured heavily in the last DLCs for two subsequent Elder Scrolls games. Perhaps they have an important role to play together in the future games.

[@guymine1233]

Well I think jyggalag and hermaeus mora might be similar in power jyggalag has his great library all information that exists or will exist and hermaeus mora and aphophrapha where he keeps all his knowledge but he can't see into the future but he is the prince of fate so he may be able to shape it so jyggalag is more powerful because of his omniscience hermaeus mora may be omniscient up to the present but can not see the future only shape it also he cannot rely on forseeing he must rely on the information be idk be writen down or something otherwise he would not need the secrets of the skal because of this he is only near omniscient

[@My6119]

"Word of advice when riding a narwhal, mind the pointy end."

[@regalcartoon5932]

It’s weird. Sheogorath is certainly the most dangerous Prince to interact with due to his insanity. But at the same time, he’s also the nicest and safest one to interact with. He’s generally in a friendly mood. He has a quick temper and can be annoyed easily but his generally cheerful demeanor doesn’t let him do anything too rash. Plus, his plane of Oblivion is the only plane of Oblivion that is a place you could describe as being non hostile. And Sheogorath doesn’t seem to have really any sort of animosity towards mortals. In fact, he’s not very condescending towards anyone. Just kind of harshly joking at times. And he doesn’t treat you like your inferior to him because your a mortal, sure he brags about that, but he only slightly treats you like your inferior because he is a Daedric Prince. He’s somewhat honest and actually provides you with a whole lot when you help him…unlike any other Daedric Prince. And with someone like Haskill at his side it is very clear that Sheogorath is not purely insane and he can listen to reason. He’s crazy and says some of the most messed up and gruesomely detailed things I’ve ever heard…but when you are on his good side, well he might almost consider you a friend. I’d argue that he is one of if not the least evil Prince. He shows more empathy and sympathy than any Daedric Prince. He likes chaos and cheese. If it doesn’t involve at least one of those two then he doesn’t care. The dude’s cool in my book and if I had to choose a Daedric Prince to serve i would choose him without hesitation.

[@killerchesny]

I like to think that, even though he was cursed with madness, he still carried a deep vendetta against the other daedric princes and his antics and dealings with them were his revenge.

[@mainaccount3087]

Sheo and Hircine playing create-a-pokemon? Never heard that before

[@sanguiniusonvacation1803]

Victory ! Success ! CHEESE FOR EVERYONE !

[@guymine1233]

Or THE WABBAJACK DIDN'T EXPECT THAT DID YA

[@Mikanoes]

But what if you don't like cheese?

[@ebyo343]

Has anyone ever considered that maybe Jyggalag is something Sheogorath created in order to drive the hero of kavatch insane, and make him/her think that they had become sheogorath? In other words, Sheogorath made us insane and believe in a fake deadric prince, and as well make us believe that somehow we had become a god...In even simpler terms, I think we got trolled very hard...

[@mftarik1255]

lmao

[@Bitxgaminn]

You are right sheogorath trolled us all along and made us play his little game 😂

[@jacobfreeman5444]

Kinda makes sense Jyggalag is absent. Even if he is truly free he has no realm to call his own. A daedric prince's realm is part of them. So he is likely doing what he can to reestablish himself in Oblivion without provoking the other princes. As to the story of the artist...it wasn't revealed Sheogorath did nothing but rather that he cut all ties between the man and any divine entity, especially Vermina. So the man did drive himself to his own fate by himself but the method of doing so was by making sure there could be no divine succor for him. It was a truly inspired thing Sheogorath did.

[@YOGI-kb9tg]

Jacob Freeman more than likely jyggalag just made a new realm of oblivion or went to a realm that that none of the other deadra rule over the reason he isn't in the other games is to do with worshippers and jyggalag has no worshippers as he was part of sheogorath since the myrethic era so there are no mortal who know of him so he has no worshiper which the deadra rely on worshippers as a sort of link to nirn so if a deadra has no worshippers or if no knows of his existence they can't effect mondus at all

[@jacobfreeman5444]

HiiPER MaaDMaan People know of Jyggalag. He just hasn't been heard from since the early eras. Those not in the know were confused why he wasn't doing as the others princes do. We know he was, in fact, cursed into being Sheogorath. But that isn't common knowledge in the TES world. But you are right that his lack of presense in mortal minds means he is likely quite weak still. Which is why I think he is laying low. He would still have enemies in the other princes and lacking a realm of his own since that got ate up by Sheogorath. He just doesn't have the strength and presense to face off against 16ish other beings of like stature. But he is the type to try and change that. So I can see future games hinting at his presense if, indeed, the events of shivering isles are to be considered canon. But he can't be open about it. If the other princes caught his scent you know they would try their best to crush him before he could get back on his feet. He was such a threat to them before they cursed him. Surely they would not allow him the chance to recover if they knew he was skulking around.

[@terminus8444]

Been looking forward to this video, as Sheogorath has always been my favorite Daedric Prince. I always appreciated his wicked and twisted sense of humor as well as his personality of being able to truly revel in the moment as only a mad man could! Yeoman work as always, you've been doing a great job with this series and only getting better! Thanks so much for your efforts! "My luggage! Where's my luggage?!"

[@TipeneThorner]

"Ta, come back soon, or I'll rip out your eyes!"

[@Mikanoes]

I'm so happy I could just TEAR OUT YOUR INTESTINES AND STRANGLE YOU WITH THEM.

[@declanstoeckel2244]

Thats not how the grey march works. The only time a mortal replaced Sheogorath was when The Hero of Kvatch did in oblivion. At the end of every era when the grey march occurs Sheogorath only temporarily reverts to Jyggalag and then after the shivering isles are thoroughly destroyed he reverts back. The only reason he was mantled (i.e replaced to an extent that the replacement literally becomes the person they were replacing) in oblivion is because when we defeat Jyggalag and stop the grey march we end the cycle an make Jyggalag the sole persona while we take the prince of madness' place.

[@Mr_Maiq_The_Liar]

Incorrect, sheogorath said he never tried having a mortal champion, and mentions multiple times that he tried diffrent things for every grey march.

[@easedcrab72m88]

Hey, late reply but actually Haskill says otherwise in ESOs interview with Haskill, where Haskill actually says he was a failed successor that couldn't beat Jygalag and was thrown out of the mantle becoming a daedric vestige. Now this could just be Bethesda's horrible writing.

[@notverifiable3731]

Liar lol

[@captaincokecan]

CHEESE!

[@jeffreyalvarez8167]

Captain Cokecan to die for.

[@oeiskiecleveland4793]

BISCUITS

[@guymine1233]

FOR EVERYONE

[@cakecookingnerd]

nope cheese for no one

[@AncientHoplite]

Can't forget the fox and the severed head.

[@tzimiscelord8483]

7:30 ish unfortunately you misinterpreted that a mortal doesn't always come and take the mantle, if nobody else jyygalag turns back to sheogorath in the mantling the Mortal who finally won became sheo and jyggalag stayed jyggalag the mantling only happened once

[@17Watman]

Exactly. Jyggalag switches back into Sheogorath after each Greymarch to rebuild his realm all over again until the next Greymarch comes. The Hero of Kvatch broke that cycle by defeating Jyggalag. There is no proof or reference that mortals have taken the mantle before, it was only until the Hero of Kvatch came that a mortal became Sheogorath.

[@TipeneThorner]

Ahem. Haskill is believed to have attempted to mantle Lord Sheogorath

[@fist-of-doom487]

Basically the curse is “whoever kills Sheogorath becomes Sheogorath” and because Jyggalag wants to take his realm back and tries to rid his realm of chaos and madness Jyggalag and Sheogorath will always be part of the same Prince. But because the Hero won, now Chaos and Order exist at the same time and I don’t think Jyggalag will stand by forever while Sheogorath spreads his insanity and plagues a realm that once belonged to him.

[@tzimiscelord8483]

*Attempted*

[@Svitlo37]

I am carving this comment into the back of an Argonian concubine. The grapefruit demands it.

[@DarthBigBen]

Svitlo37 What does the grapefruit say now?

[@Svitlo37]

Do you mind? I'm trying to do the fishstick.

[@OuterRimPride]

Stanley, the talking grapefruit from Passwall?!

[@Svitlo37]

The very same.

[@Mikanoes]

But it wasn't a death threat. Only death threats get carved into the back of an Argonian concubine. You wasted a perfectly good concubine. This message is unacceptable. Scrap her and get a new one. Then write a good death threat.

[@TranscendentLion]

There's a theory I quite like that Jyggalag was always the prince of madness, and that becoming Sheogorath didn't change anything in that regard: while Sheogorath represents the manic and demented forms of madness, Jyggalag represents obsession, which is just as unhealthy as the others. Albert Einstein said that 'insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results', and that very much applies to Jyggalag, constantly destroying the Shivering Isles despite knowing that Sheogorath will rebuild it all, and that his attempts to establish Order are futile. I wonder if, since the events of the DLC, Jyggalag has been exploring Mundus: after all, when he was cursed to become Sheogorath, it is likely that the mortal plane had yet to exist. So, being free, he now has the opportunity to gather information about this realm which wasn't there when he last looked, and maybe we'll run into him again at some point.

[@jmm1233]

The fork of horripilation is for eating cheese and killing netch bulls , a mighty weapon in the right hero's hand A fun easter egg fact about the fork of horripilation that if you get Indoril Right Gauntlet before taking the House of Troubles quest and thus the Sherogorath side quest , that the gaunlet has the same protective qualities against the debuff of mana as it does with the Indoril dagger debuff of health , makes a mages life a little easier to live

[@RexusprimeIX]

Would be cool if Elder Scrolls 6's (or 7's) main antagonist would be Jyggalag. Since he's against free will and individuality, people would probably not want him to conquer Nirn. Maybe you start off the game: the narrator explains (maybe with a cool cutscene) how after a certain event that maybe happened after Skyrim. Jyggalag started conquering worlds. One after another, the daedric princes were powerless to him. And in the end, he conquered Nirn. So you start off as the prophesied hero told in the Elder Scrolls, that would restore the balance since there can't be only order without chaos (yin and yang). The world is in complete control by Jyggalag, where free will and creativity didn't exist. But, you are the prophesied hero who is the new Prince of Madness. p.s during Jyggalag conquest, he killed Sheogorath because he hated everything he stood for. But a small part of Sheogorath survived and escaped, trying to find a new host. So you're the only one in the world that has free will and can restore balance because you're the Prince of Madness. Of course without his powers, only a small piece of Sheogorath survived, small enough to free you from Jyggalag's control. I think it would be cool if it was like that one ww2 game where under Nazi control the whole area of that map is grey and colourless, and then when you free them from Nazi control colour is restored. So first it's just grey, every person is like a mind slave, no happiness, no sadness, just blank emotions. But then when you free them from Jyggalag's control that place gets back its colour and people have emotions again. I'm not sure if you (the protagonist) should have any superpowers like Skyrim since you are the new Prince of Madness. But maybe your superpower is just that you cannot be controlled? And instead of using your own superpowers when fighting Jyggalag in the boss fight, since don't have any superpowers. During the game you go around to the different planes of Oblivion, freeing them from Jyggalag, and as a reward, they'd help you fighting Jyggalag. So you're fighting Jyggalag, and you wonder, where the fuck are the Daedric princes? And then suddenly, when you're about the be defeated, all 14 daedric princes (or how many they are, I counted from a wiki page) stand beside you. There will be some quick cheesy dialog like "Jyggalag: You couldn't defeat me then, how are you going to defeat me now!" "Everyone... or just one daedric prince: Because before we fought separately, not this time!". And they all fuse into you, creating the ultimate Daedric Prince. The Prince of Power. The Prince of Life. The Prince or Freedom. Or something cheesy like that. So now, your only power during the game was freedom, but now. This boss fight, you have _ALL_ the power, you have UNLIMITED POWER!!!!!! You can summon Daedras from a flick of the wrist, fly, shoot laser beams. You have four arms, beast companion, all knowledgeable, animal-like... basically, you are all the daedric princes in one body. After the fight, you obviously won't keep all that power, but now that Jyggalag is defeated, the Daedric Princes give you his plane of Oblivion to you. So now you have your own plane of Oblivion (which you can fully customize to your liking). You take the mantle of the new Sheogorath. I know they made you Sheogorath in elder scrolls 4. But this is not the same situation. There you defeated Jyggalag and he made you the new Sheogorath. Here you are prophesied and you are the new _reborn_ Sheogorath, with almost no powers. Holy fuck! This is the longest youtube comment I've ever written!

[@yankeejim8387]

I’d love to see Jyggalag in future Elder Scrolls games. If the Shivering Isles DLC for Oblivion is canon, then Jyggalag should be a completely separate Daedric Prince from Sheogorath, and therefore should be able to contact the player and Tamriel. It’d also be cool to see him beating the shit out of the other Princes, yknow, after turning him in an insane madman for a while. Cool way to show off his power.

[@marbleherogaming735]

"Do you mind, im busy doing the fishstick, its a very delicate state of mind"

[@hentaihaven2843]

Sheogorath For president 2020!

[@theomnissiah-9120]

The Spriggan "I believe all people deserve the same rights and lefts."

[@3crowsinatrenchcoat]

The Spriggan he'd be better than the current one

[@TipeneThorner]

"Or is that all rights deserve a left?"

[@hentaihaven2843]

The Omnissiah Huh?

[@peeweeherman9411]

But our president is already a madman

[@seekersoftruth1057]

I enjoyed chatting with sheogorath. He's like a medieval Dr. Seuss.

[@harpdedarpdooweee1107]

Jyggalg takes over Molag Bal's plane of oblivion in the DLC sized Vigilant Mod for Skyrim

[@tazkol]

7:14 - 7:22 thats incorrect. jyggalag always became sheogorath again at the end of the grey march until the champion from oblivion defeated him, then the curse was broken and he turned them into sheogorath as a reward.

[@woodlefoof2]

i think that in at least one of the TES games they need to give sheogorath multiple quests. like you summon him and 1 out of like 12 or so quests are chosen one of which he just gives you an artifact. i think it would really reflect his unpredictable nature by making his quest also unpredictable.

[@brosephnoonan223]

Jigga-wigga-niggalag, the daedric prince of belmora

[@sirpuppingtoniii9897]

FINALLY.. Do videos on minor Aedra not as many people know. but put them all in one video, you could do Magnus, Xarxes, Tsun, Trinamac, Lorkhan, even though you briefly covered some of those, minor Aedra deserve their own videos. Also do stuff like Lyg and even Akavir. Tosh Raka, More Tribunal, Life of Random Important Mortals, Unike Stuff.

[@the_dropbear4392]

Coolest of the Kids Magnus isn't an Aedra neither is Lorkan. Aedra means our ancestor, and the elves don't see Lorkan as their ancestor, and Magnus left he is one of the magna-ge

[@ThingsToWatch1000]

Iron Wolf Knowing that you should know what the original comment ment as xarxes is an deadra but everyone that knows him probably knows what was ment by his request

[@the_dropbear4392]

Benstart Lee I know he's a Daedra

[@altanzaurs]

Benstart Lee. Xarxes isn't a daedra, he was auri-el's scirbe. He wrote the Oghma infinium and ascended to godhood some time later

[@thegunslinger8806]

sheogorath is perhaps is the god I fear the most but love and respect in a way,because you see my dear reader by stoping the autocratic total order loving jyggalag the daedric princes created there own worst enemy and counter balance,the fucking Sheogorath. god help us all....or maybe not..

[@wiibrockster]

Sheogorath is the Troll of The Elder Scrolls. I think it's funny how he messes with different Daedric Princes and Mortals alike. I think i'd be like him if I was a Daedric Prince just messing with Mortals from small pranks to wholesale slaughter

[@OuterRimPride]

Sheogorath's a goddamn savage. I love that man. He has the most beautiful and peaceful realm, excellent manners, the sexiest daedra, and he threw a rock at the filthy Dunmer just because he was bored!

[@aquestunending7210]

Oh yes. Uncle Sheo and Daddy Jyggalag

[@jentzi23]

I always enjoy the encounters with Sheogorath, he has an interesting way of poking at the ridiculous in situations and in people. A well-written character.

[@lvlwowable]

To think i almost started doing my job!

[@rfckolive5382]

Jyggalag been real quiet since Shivering Isles dropped....

[@charliefawn2519]

Thanks for making things straight to the point and easy to understand. It was a good comprehensible summery.

[@GldnSparrow]

Haskill is simply one hell of a butler

[@gwynbleidd3675]

sheogorath wasnt absent in skyrim there is a quest where u serve him

[@stevengreen9536]

Old crazy Sheogorath.He can help you or hinder you.Although i did not realize he used to be the god of order.His back story has a bit in common with Trinimac.@The Exploring Series thanks for the share. :D

[@leviroch]

every time i hear him talk ingame i always picture him getting along like a house on fire with johnny depps portrayal of hunter thompson

[@connorshekelstein6432]

5:01 that's depressing

[@TheSylveonSurfer]

I'd find it interesting if by the time of a relatively modernized Tamriel, that Jyggalag had gone on a crusade across the realms of Oblivion and even conquered a couple. I would imagine that despite having a couple centuries to recuperate that he wouldn't be back to full power yet and would be struggling on his conquest. Like what if he's already re-conquered the Shivering Isles and crusaded across several Pocket Realms, Mehrunes Dagon's realm, Apocrypha, and a few other of the major entities realms. BUT is currently struggling with conquering Coldharbour and like Azura's and Meridia's realms. That would be cool actually and I would like to see some form of that take shape in the next main series game. As well as a having another Greymarch event happen in a DLC for ESO. (For those that are unaware, ESO's story takes place during the 2nd era. Long before the events of Morrowind and Oblivion.

[@griffinbryant5016]

a mortal doesnt become sheogorath at the end of every grey march. jygallag conquers the isles and then reverts back into sheogorath. The champion of cyrodiil only became sheogorath bc they broke the curse and allowed jyg to roam the waters of oblivion in his tru form, they are the only one to have done this otherwise there would have only been one grey march and the shivering isles dlc would never have happened

[@sonofearthandsky7036]

i find amusing that the map of shivering isle looks like a brian supperimposed side view and top view

[@KingRumar]

Ok, if we ever crossed Elder Scrolls and Fallout universes, the Toaster would probably get what he wanted if Sheogorath met him. Judging from Dr Mobius's state of mind by the time you meet him though... It can be plausible to have already happened.

[@ratcakes2928]

CHEESE! FOR EVERYONE!

[@djuradimitrijevic9570]

CHEESE or innards ... OOO wait i know YARN !!!

[@ratcakes2928]

wait scratch that. no cheese

[@lonniedwayne576]

Sheogaroth is like the Deadric version of the Joker. Completely batshit but smart enough to manipulate pretty much anyone.

[@marcovchb]

Sheagorath is chief TROLL among the Daedra! Only he can screw them over and over and get away with it.

[@MrGeek1111]

Madness is a bitter mercy perhaps, but mercy none the less.

[@18wolfspirit]

Why was the Orc taken to Sheogorath's domain for eternal punishment when Sheogorath rules over insanity? I have trouble finding anything about eternal punishment in the Shivering Isles.

[@TheExploringSeries]

Sheogorath specifically requested that he be allowed to take the Orc to his plane to exact his own punishment. You can read the story here: en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:16_Accords_of_Madness,_v._XII

[@mikarri7199]

“Do you mind? I’m doing the fish stick. It’s a very delicate state of mind!”

[@marcuspriest9570]

Truely, in its, my headcanon is that Sheograth is the prince of Madness AND order which would explain why all the other prince's had to team up on him instead of just a few prince's so they can split the Sheograth 2 domains. Just having either domain of order or Madness is extremely powerful as theirs is order or Madness in everything, which also happens to draw power from other prince's domains as each has a bit of Madness and order to them

[@oghaze9318]

So... Batman is Jyggalag..

[@praise_kek340]

OG Haze and joker is sheo

[@oghaze9318]

can't name a more iconic duo

[@praise_kek340]

OG Haze spiderman and venom

[@dabestodabest1319]

FOR DEUTSCHLAND :D

[@CalamityDiamond]

no

[@kkcpointman4619]

Wabbajack!

[@blackvial]

Wabbajack

[@ephyracorinth7795]

The quest "mind of Madness" in Skyrim had sheogorath.

[@slimjim6439]

Great vid! Keep up the good work.

[@peachyjam9440]

Sheogorath has perhaps the largest number of Daedric artifacts associated with him *Shows 3 out of 7 or 8 if you count his outfit*

[@bebos1262]

If Jyggalag ruled Nirn, it would be a utopia of order and peace. It's almost ironic that a Daedric prince would be able to create a perfect realm while the Aedra couldn't.

[@ethanbrock5453]

Yeah I highly doubt that it would end up being a utopia

[@Baxbax]

So is the champion of cyradil now sheogorath that you meet in skyrim?

[@raburto8984]

Bax no one knows :///

[@casualkhajiit]

I think that's what's implied

[@kirkfogg8366]

Bax yes. Glad someone was paying attention to the game lore

[@kirkfogg8366]

raburto singh yes the coc became sheogorath.

[@madscientistshusta]

The grey march has begun!

[@tca1979]

What if it was jyggalags/sheagoraths plan to set himself free by putting you in power? For a daedric prince of order death is better than transformation in Prince od madness? He is very manipulative. He could have tricked us into assuming that he is transforming. Or just straight up drove main character into madness.

[@Vainblade]

Would be awesome to see an Exploring DnD series, though the various realms might or might not complicate things, since the races behave slightly differently in some worlds.

[@Himemaru_Airi]

I would think that your character.. the champion of cyrodil had become the new sheorgorath but had been eventually driven mad .... you had become a prince.... lag called you a god

[@DexMaster881]

Madness and Wisdom are the two sides of the same coin. No coin can consistently fall to one side.

[@brandonwithnell612]

you got the whole champion versus jygalagg thing wrong, while it is possible you wernt the first mortal shegorath tried to use, you were the only one to mantle him, as jyggalagg would have killed the rest only to turn back into sheogorath, afterall if a previous mortal did mantle him then jyggalag would have been freed from th curse, you cant just have 2 sheogoraths at once

[@theomen49]

I still don't understand what happens at the end of the shivering isles, does the champion of cyrodil become sheogorath? Is he possessed or something

[@OuterRimPride]

I'll bet Jyggylag will have a big part in the next game. Maybe not the main story, but he'll have one. In the Skyrim mod, Vigilant (which you need to try if you havn't), he actually ends up invading Coldharbour and killing Molag Bal in his weakened state. I'll bet he's up to something like that in canon.

[@LordZoth6292]

Love it, what a great episode. Thank you sir!

[@jmarch_503]

There's references to him in 5th game also i think you get the staff as a quest item

[@GraniteGhost778]

Wait, so what ended up happening to Sheogorath after Jyggalag's curse was lifted?

[@ShadowTheYoukai]

Well, this'll contain some spoilers for Elder Scrolls Skyrim, so don't scroll further down if you don't want it. Right, so in Solitude, you'll probably come across an insane Dark Elf named Dervenin, who asks you to go and find his master in the Pelagius Wing of the Blue Palace (gotta get a key from one of the servant girls to unlock the door). Going down the hall gets you transported to another place entirely. And you end up finding Sheogorath himself talking to Pelagius the Mad. So, after talking to the Mad God, you can have him mention 'a Fox, butterflies, and a severed head'. The Gray Fox from the Thieves Guild, the enclosed room upon first entering the Shivering Isles, and Mathieu Bellamont's mother's head from the Dark Brotherhood quest. Which basically means that the Sheogorath in Skyrim is the Hero of Kvatch from Oblivion upon embracing their role as Sheogorath.

[@sirpuppingtoniii9897]

HERO OF KVATCH = SHEOGORATH

[@JXEditor]

Shadow O'Neill "...and the CHEESE! To die for."

[@TipeneThorner]

As the Lord would say "Ta, Come back soon, or I'll rip out your eyes!"

[@fist-of-doom487]

The hero from Oblivion has become the new Sheogorath and Jyggalag is free. They have effectively become two separate Deadra that were once one. Odds are that eventually they will come to blows with each other seeing as how they are both the exact opposite of each other and represent what they each hate. I worry what sort of damage will happen because of it.

[@Become-Eggplant]

Since Hermaeus Mora turns people insane from his black book, does their soul venture to His realm? Or Sheogorath's Realm?

[@the_dropbear4392]

They Told Me I Could Become Anything, So I became an Eggplant his relm if it's his black book

[@Become-Eggplant]

wut?

[@bebos1262]

Honestly that would be up to Sheogorath if he really wants to mess with Hermaeus Mora for the soul. But then again Hermaeus Mora is an extremely intelligent being so if anyone would know it would be him, and let us not forget Hermaeus Mora isn't a push over, if Sheogorath was really being annoying I'm sure Hermaeus Mora could do something.

[@silcrow4045]

@@bebos1262 sheo is impossible to beat. You cannot beat madness. Honestly him and hermy-wermy would get along, since only I'm madness can you find pure knowledge

[@xeperandremanifestthinktan1023]

*classic battle of order vs chaos*

[@TheShepard112]

I don't know if you've done it yet but you should do a video on Sithis.

[@martijnvanweele6204]

If the Greymarch happens at the end of every era, doesn't that mean that we know it has happened five times total? Once at the end of the Dawn Era, once at the end of the Merethic Era, once at the end of the First Era, once at the end of the Second and once at the end of the Third?

[@deberenfokkerdejong535]

martijn van weele There are multiple kalpas.

[@martijnvanweele6204]

Yes, but they are never the same. Different et'Ada become Daedra and Aedra. Peryite, for instance, is theorized to be destined to be the Akatosh of the next kalpa. If that is the case, I find it unlikely that Jyggalag would embody the same aspects in different kalpas, meaning that in a lot of kalpas, Sheogorath might never have come into being, or Jyggalag might have never existed and always had been Sheogorath. It is highly unlikely that other Kalpas have had and/or will have greymarches too.

[@stemm09]

Eras of the shivering isles, not tamriel

[@martijnvanweele6204]

I was unaware that they were different in that respect?

[@TheExploringSeries]

Well, one book says that the Greymarch occurs every thousand years while Sheogorath claims that its every few thousand years, although it's hard to take anything he says seriously.

[@skadihuntress]

i like to think that i play saxophone because of sheogorath

[@newgodskane]

For a trickster God has all of his eyes arms and legs usually other gods get revenge

[@Qualaza]

Sheogorath, to busy doing the fishstick then to care for some mortals.

[@Hunterstiq]

Sheogorath, Nirn's Best Troll.... N-no not that kind of troll, the fun kind.

[@AAVVVAAADDAAAKAAADAVRAAA]

I'm still pissed years later after killing jygg getting that shitty armor...😒

[@the_dropbear4392]

Only one mortal ever Mantled Sheogorath. And it stopped the grey-march for good. Haskil was a failed attempt.

[@tylerjaynes822]

8:25 One of my favorite things on this earth is people who pronounce things incorrectly despite correct pronunciation being present IN game.

[@glasslaughter824]

*Looks at thumbnail* CCCCHHHHHIIICCCCKKKKEEENNN

[@anextlomara5981]

Could you do a series on the lore of Dungeons and Dragons?

[@Harlequin619]

Will you do videos on Aedra as well?

[@astraeanova4280]

Sheogorath is my favourite of all the Daedric princes

[@zool201975]

waait @7:00 and on thats not right the cycle was broken by having a mortal taking the banner of sheogorath not made. the cysle is that Jyggalag is cursed by the other daedra princes as his ability to predict outcomes made him more pwoerful lthen the three other strongest combined. they cursed Jyggalag with madness and that was the birth of SHeogorath. the gray march is always followed by the change back to his cursed form sheogorath. its being explained by sheogorath (in a less conspicuous way) before the end and after the end haskil tells you all the details of it.Shivering isles is actually the creation of a new entity a real sheogorath not an cursed form of jyggalag. juyg still exists he was simply driven away from the isles as you cannot kill a daedric prince (thats why jyggalag got cursed) the sheogorath of skyrim has to be the player after shivering isles as he / she took the mantle of a daedric prince and as for it being male remind yourself daedric princes they have no real form to begin with no real gender. unlike lesser daedra. daedra have many genesis stories. as sheogorath is not the first to be born of a mortal (that is actually documented most princes have varying myths from varying ethnic groups).

[@the_stray_cat]

i had an idea for what the story of elder scrolls 6 would be if it was in high rock. Jyggalag could cause a war between the dievins and the dadra and the mane character would have to go to Adamantine tower which would take him/her to different realms of oblivion so he/she could find a way to stop the war

[@thelaughingman6975]

I always questioned. Do Herma-Mora and Uncle Sheo work together? The black books make people go mad. Sheo is my favorite. Hell he had the best Daedric and DLC quest. Every time I see a crazy mad person in elder scrolls I tend to think, "Did Sheo gave this guy a visit?" And now that I think of it, did Sheo mess with Sithis? Cause Cicero (my favorite DB member) did go crazy. Sheo for World Leader!

[@easedcrab72m88]

It's definitely a two sided coin. Daedric princes rarely work together and I mean RARELY. It's different with the black books because they make you go insane because the mortal brain can't handle the immense knowledge given to them. Compared to sheogoraths artifact that makes them go mad with pure insanity. The black books definitely could help sheogorath in that the mortals who went insane could be led on a path to be taken by sheo, but they probably just belong to H. Mora because that knowledge is his.

[@shadowhell8378]

I hope we get more from the daedra in elder scrolls 6 maybe have a quest line for each and get a daedric artifact at the end. I really hope we get a quest line in order to become a prue vampire and a alpha werewolf and that they are better than skyrims un moded vampire and werewolf.

[@cb-9938]

So Sheogorath brought back the Deadra everyone feared, while a champion takes over and becomes Sheogorath. So the other Deadra now have too worry about Jyggalag again. As well a Sheogorath. That's a power move, undo their betrayal. And keep the consequences for their action around too make it worse

[@Dmon10124]

Sheogorath is vaas's guardian angel

[@DarkStrife]

Sheogorath gets bored and chucks a meteor... you telling me that sheogorath played universe sandbox nirn edition?

[@funkkymonkey6924]

Sheogorath is the Trevor of the elder scrolls, and for this, he is widely associated with... damn trolls

[@RVR121]

Jyggalag cannot be stopped even when his form is inverted.

[@TheStatisfiedOne]

RVR121 What makes him so powerful?

[@thequietman5934]

What are the chances of a Conan/Hyborean Age and Kull/Thurian Age series?

[@Benzo692]

I’ll rip out ya innards and play skip rope with mmm cheese cheese for everyone