Haven't played so I will simply blindly assume every ranking to be correct except for whatever is the most controversial one. (Please pretend this comment goes on for five paragraphs about said controversial weapon and why it's actually good/bad.)
@sacredeyes3508Ай бұрын
Agreed (I haven't finished doom 2016 still lol)
@cuppedcupАй бұрын
Fair point, i need to piss also
@GlobinHDАй бұрын
Dude how could you be so stupid to think controversial weapon is actually good/bad. Did you even watch the video, or any of the points Fish made as to why it is actually bad/good. I mean, the design, ammunition, reload, fire, damage, all of it clearly serves to make the weapon bad/good.
@davidhong1934Ай бұрын
I disagree with your opinion on and provide a three paragraph response explaining
@zath6425Ай бұрын
@@davidhong1934 I reply with an argument full of logical fallacies and references to your mother
@BaeYeouАй бұрын
I never really understood why people liked the Energy Shield so much until you mentioned it protects you against everything around you. I always thought it only protected you from the front.
@kelleroidАй бұрын
It would actually be somewhat balanced that way! But no, it's practically invincibility on demand for a few seconds, every few seconds.
@MathtriqueurАй бұрын
2 things to add about the energy shield. The dash damage can be applied way more quickly will using thr chrono strike rune. Before it's removal from battlemode, the energy shield was nerfed a couple of months into the game by replacing it from basically on demand invulnerability to a physical shield that would be in front of the slayer with said physical prop being the only to block stuff.
@jinshimizuАй бұрын
except bellow your feets. Mancubus/cyber manc ground pound, cyber manc toxic on the floor, dread knight electric floor, hazards that on floor, even when u in the air and projectiles throw at your feets. Aside from that it pretty much blocked anything, even fall damage when u fall off the map
@clintbeastwood5116Ай бұрын
Dash ramming with the shield has always been broken.
@soupinationАй бұрын
The pistol is SSS+++ tier -this post has been made by the pistol gang
@submachinegun5737Ай бұрын
So good that they wouldn’t dare add it to doom eternal otherwise it would orbital nuke the weapon balance
@NXTanglАй бұрын
The heavy cannon would have felt like 50x better if they called it the _hand_ cannon and gave it the pistol model.
@AlexSchmid-TheAceofSpadesАй бұрын
I miss that pistol.
@julianmarcinkowski2825Ай бұрын
@@submachinegun5737 There's actually a cheat code in the game that lets you use a pistol
@theyoutubeplague3383Ай бұрын
I mean, it had _INFINITE AMMO_ blatantly overpowered
@Kirk.Schr0dingerАй бұрын
Because of the font, I read this as "every weapon bonked"
@fojisan2398Ай бұрын
"I'm gonna bonk ya"
@heretic_engineer391Ай бұрын
Bonk
@cbro79Ай бұрын
Bonk
@wolfgangervin2582Ай бұрын
Now I'm picturing Doomguy anointing his weapons with fruit punch.
@EdibleREALАй бұрын
Bonk
@rougenarwhal8378Ай бұрын
base fire on the heavy cannon is great as a precise way to take off health so you don't risk overkilling enemies when you need a glory kill right here right now
@screamingcactus1753Ай бұрын
Zombies in particular will stagger from a single heavy cannon headshot. A fast, easy, ammo efficient way to get some free health between fights
@nathanfivecoate584819 күн бұрын
@@screamingcactus1753 One headshot or two bodyshots
@stephensylvarwolf7940Ай бұрын
Prewatch funnies: Found the Unmakyr video last night. Started watching the series this morning. What a perfect coincidence that this video launches right after i finish the series. Timing on point. Edit while watching: I find it funny that B Tier is full of exclusively mediocre explosive mods
@henrynagel7175Ай бұрын
Oh yeah it is lol
@my_celliumАй бұрын
b is for bomb
@DestructaconnАй бұрын
12:58 Fish used the Rocket Jump Waltz as the backing music for talking about the base rocket launcher, this is peak
@warmongerousАй бұрын
I miss the mobile turret from 2016. It had all the issues that you mentioned, but you could use the rune that gave you infinite ammo above a certain armour threshold, and it was just so funny, shredding through everything with infinite ammo without a care in the world
@gamingbako5549Ай бұрын
I loved doing that so much lmao
@macaronitony93Ай бұрын
that rune was soooo op but i miss it so much
@truffjack771825 күн бұрын
Rich get richer was probably the most busted rune in 2016 behind mastered ammo boost
@IttarraOdaАй бұрын
I absolutely loved this series Fish, it was a great time. I do hope that maybe you can find a way to integrate this more somehow, it's always a treat to see these pop up. Edit: Good to know that much like TF2, giving a sniping weapon explosive headshot is the logical choice to make a class/weapon more powerful.
@MrPiragonАй бұрын
Good video but it's kind of weird to complain about the sound design of a weapon and not play they sound in question
@lazerax9Ай бұрын
Am I the only person that likes the new heavy assault rifle? The slow rate of fire helps distinguish it from the plasma rifle and chaingun and the sound effect has a pleasant bassy quality to it imo.
@SunTzu-j8jАй бұрын
I love that slower chug, it feels powerful On top of that it's a good way to conserve ammo too, slower rate will help you manage your bullets
@rattled6732Ай бұрын
18:37 Damn bro I’d like to say that Aim is cancer, but cancer actually kills stuff!
@tysonvienneau1830Ай бұрын
This is a golden sentence that I will be putting in my dictionary of "Incredible one liners that I will probably never get to use"
@sirpootsman1048Ай бұрын
3:56 Made my day. I've been waiting YEARS for a youtuber to mention this!
@samuelantoniocastillomeza5034Ай бұрын
I'm glad the Heat Wave mode got into A tier. I loved that mod as an another take of the stun charge mod for the plasma gun in Doom 2016.
@Arakus99Ай бұрын
Wasn’t heat blast already in 2016? (Although admittedly I never used it bc stun bomb was incredibly useful - which ig is why they give you ice grenade instead in eternal)
@samuelantoniocastillomeza5034Ай бұрын
@@Arakus99 Mmm, I think you are right. Eternal seems to just have combined both in a single mod. In 2016, the stun was very OP.
@cyberdemon6517Ай бұрын
heatblast is THE best mod imo, because it is a hard falter unlike the super shotgun and rocket launcher which means the demons will fslter when you hit them, NO MATTER WHAT
@newttrain8667Ай бұрын
Y'know, I haven't played the DLCs yet; I got distracted when I started and just booted up a new UV file. I just assumed the Hammer used the same ammo as the Crucible since it replaces it. That's fucking nuts that it doesn't.
@bounter_Ай бұрын
I will always stand by Microwave Beam. Stun potential, finishing wounded demons for explosions without using rockets and shield fuckage are way better than low C. Same thing with Mobile Turret, my beloved. I say mid-high C or low B. But I can see why people dislike them.
@laz272727Ай бұрын
You have to use MB extremely precisely for it to pop off, but it's strong if you do. A rocket launcher blast in a room wide AoE for like ten cells? Yes please.
@justzack641Ай бұрын
The movement penalty is what really kills it for me (aside from the high ammo cost)
@lordpumpkinhead265Ай бұрын
The problem with the meme beam is that ideally you want the enemy to be on a sliver of health so you aren't slowed for too long. Otherwise, it's likely going to detriment you by making you take unnecessary damage that you could've avoided if you didn't want to use the meme beam. If you can roughly gauge where the demons' health is after a combo, then the meme beam is a lot better than the bottom of C, but otherwise it's too risky.
@fojisan2398Ай бұрын
I like using Mobile Turret to hose down Pain Elementals
@rofibhoi9788Ай бұрын
@@lordpumpkinhead265 Tap shooting the beam in the middle of combos completely takes away all the cons you mentioned and gives you the stun benefits it has.
@Styx-x7Ай бұрын
Great list. I’d only change full auto to be above heat blast, and sticky bombs above or below the meme beam. I’m actually working on a video for sticky bombs as of now. I personally think they’re the worst weapon (mod) in the game. Their practicality just falls off hard after SGN. As far as full auto goes, since I know how people think about it in the comments, it’s actually really good against SH demons. D-Blade+ice bomb+full auto will one-cycle any demon that isn’t a boss, tyrant, or marauder.
@TheSwordofFlamesАй бұрын
I do think Microwave beam might be a little low, since it's best use case is just to tap a demon with it to use as an on-demand stun in the middle of combos, especially on bigger enemies like Barons.
@DaisiesTCАй бұрын
Yeah but there's plenty of other things that accomplish the same thing but without fucking with your movement lol
@DaisiesTCАй бұрын
Microwave beam would very likely be much more used if it didn't have the movement reduction. It still would be pretty weak and situational regardless, but not nearly as punishing to use.
@TheSwordofFlamesАй бұрын
@@DaisiesTC like i said, if you just feather the beam for a quick stun, the movement penalty doesn't really come into effect, especially if you use it while dashing. Other forms of stunning are usually limited resources or on a long cooldown, I.E. blood punch, grenades, and remote detonate.
@tabula_rosaАй бұрын
the mobile turret, instead of increasing your attack speed, should have had you activate a shoulder mounted minigun that continues shooting at whoever u were aiming at when u activated it (& therefor also increases your damage output if u continue to chaingun that target). as a sort of "set it and forget it, make this guy go away while i do other stuff even if mobile turret is an inefficient way to do it" ability
@blunot6941Ай бұрын
15:40 baller ass mod switch transition
@glitchedsushiАй бұрын
I started the game fairly recently and I’m playing it super casually, but I love these in depth videos, are extremely useful if I ever decide to go hardcore on Doom Eternal
@rofibhoi9788Ай бұрын
Microwave Beam does NOT belong that low in the ranking. It can stun demons with just a tap and without sacrificing mobility and can also create really powerful stun combos. You can also get into Fast Lock on Burst from the Beam. Microwave is absolutely OP against possessed demons. It's a FAAR better mod than full auto and mobile turret.
@massgunner4152Ай бұрын
I noticed that a common denominator on these defense pieces is that the microwave beam is better if you don't use it lile a beam.
@fojisan2398Ай бұрын
It's also good for holding a demon still to hit em with a grenade
@rofibhoi9788Ай бұрын
@@massgunner4152 Not exactly, you have to use it as a beam for a while if you want to get into a fast LOB from the beam.
@kelleroidАй бұрын
@@massgunner4152 same goes for all the other autofire weapons in the game, quickswitching's existence just breaks any balancing there
@massgunner4152Ай бұрын
@@rofibhoi9788 we are boing to square 1 on this issue: using it for more than two seconds is bad for you.
@BenaPenaАй бұрын
Fish, I just wanted to say that I love the extra production value in your videos. Simple stuff like the tierlist being themed, and the games font used for onscreen text make your videos so much better than the usual ranking vids. . . . . . . Also could I get the link to that Rocket Waltz remix you used?
@1987nightrapАй бұрын
The microwave beam can be used for quickswitches, since it freezes the enemy in place
@Bio-Hazard.MP4Ай бұрын
You got this ranking and then you got me only using stickies and missiles unless something else is needed
@NguyenKien1808Ай бұрын
It's normal to use stickies. It's one of the few that has a significant deal crit effect when headshotting or hitting weakpoints which turn it into a rocket with bigger splash radius. This tier list is coming from a casual player perspective and in no way reflect how efficient an advance player play
@the_phantom_cat791228 күн бұрын
Whatever gets the demons killed, I stick to super shotgun and turret, myself usually
@MrShukaku1991Ай бұрын
Not putting the BFG10000 at the absolute peak of top tier is an utter disgrace.
@JamesTheAce09 күн бұрын
You can't just shoot a hole into the surface of mars
@LordKarnoxАй бұрын
Love your Doom Eternal videos, easily my favorite non-tf2 stuff from ya :D
@NamelessstewАй бұрын
I just got around to actually finishing this game. And now you go and post this. Nice
@DOOMSlayer6476Ай бұрын
That is one thing i did like more about siege mode in 2016 compared to the destroyer blade was that it was more of a precision shot instead of a wide shot that will be gone if it touched a wall. I will say though, the siege mode was overpowered as sh*t and was super broken lol
@jackbishop8610Ай бұрын
The slot style editing is really fun for this kind of video
@WD--de4hfАй бұрын
should rank every DEMON, little weird and outta the blue, but I'm curious what you find fun and challenging, that and I just like the demons alot
@JazzSicaaАй бұрын
1:25 Doom 3 fans: "First time?"
@fojisan2398Ай бұрын
"YA CAN'T HIT ANYTHING WITH IT UNLESS YA STICK IT UP A DEMON'S NOSE!"
@dmatechАй бұрын
Honestly, I never stopped using sticky bombs because they're just so useful for doing just the right amount of damage to stagger pretty much any fodder (especially shielded enemies), and you can spam them. A bunch of levels throw a ton of shield guys at you and it's often faster to stagger a whole group of them than use the plasma rifle.
@eri5101Ай бұрын
I disagree with the Plasma rifle, I never enjoy using it, it feels like im firing wet noodles, I'd personally switch its placement with the heavy cannon simply because I dislike firing it that much.
@goobles6417 күн бұрын
fr that shits ass
@keithbrannon251Ай бұрын
Can't wait for you to come out with new Doom videos for the new Doom Game. Also, if you have the time, I would love to see your opinions on the Unmaykr from Doom 64.
@panthekirb7561Ай бұрын
I'm more of a classic Doom gamer than a modern era one but is a tier list like this really necessary? Oh well, I suppose at the very least its entertaining and good for the channel.
@SB-dc5onАй бұрын
Rocket launcher F tier cant rocket jump 😔
@starmaker75Ай бұрын
Surprised rocket jump isn't a thing in doom more often.
@bowserknightАй бұрын
I've been a fan of the Destroyer Blade since the first time I used it. Actually became one of my most used mods in the game. Just run to the end of a semi-long hallway, make the enemies line up behind you and slice them all up with one shot. Incredibly satisfying to use, especially against the snakes, Revenants and Carcasses. Hell, if I remember right it's even good against Pinkies and Arachnotrons.
@lochsry9054Ай бұрын
18:39 had me ROLLING Nor the four consecutive missed headshots I feel that
@AAAA90175Ай бұрын
SS tier is a Reinhardt cosplay
@aleflippy1997Ай бұрын
Reinhardt got the BFG ability?!?
@AAAA90175Ай бұрын
@@aleflippy1997 its an overpowered flamestrike
@Grayson-tk5hnАй бұрын
(maybe)hot take shotguns sticky bomb launcher is amazing
@purplehaze2358Ай бұрын
This video is _not_ a "ranked from best to worst" video. It's a tier list, sure, but it's completely out of order.
@animeguy1633Ай бұрын
One time my gane bugged and the micro missile mod started shooting precision bolts instead but with the same ammo cost as missiles
@fojisan2398Ай бұрын
I think that's called the IDKFA glitch
@ChurlyCheerileeАй бұрын
Micro-missile main here. Appreciate the love you give em. Cheers
@dabang8947Ай бұрын
The microwave bean should have been rated way higher, at least low b tier. No one ever really uses it to kill demons, but it’s stun effect is very useful. You can stun a demon and quick switch to another weapon and then stun it again over and over. This is good against possessed demons, who move fast. It deals with energy shields really quick and for practically no ammo usage. I feel like for a weapon like the plasma rifle which doesn’t have much synergy with other weapons in the arsenal, the microwave beam is much more useful than the heat wave, if you would use the plasma rifle at all. The damage output from the ballista is much higher than the plasma rifle’s heat wave so I’d rather spend my ammo on that then waste half the clip charging the heat wave for only a quick burst of damage
@cbro79Ай бұрын
Stickfishonafish makes bangers
@EQuake229024 күн бұрын
At the start of my Ultra-nightmare runs I would have agreed with you on the placement of the plasma beam, but eventually I realized that it was more useful than I initially thought, mainly for locking down the most powerful enemy in the arena and removing them from the picture. I would've put it in B, maybe even A, but most likely B.
@insomniacnerd5592Ай бұрын
I love vids like this for some reason.
@whiteroomentertainmenttv8371Ай бұрын
Love doom eternal and your content! This is a win win
@enriquetorres699Ай бұрын
Clicked for Doom, stayed and subscribed for Melee music
@CellowoАй бұрын
Came for the TF2 vids, stayed for the Fish. Keep it up brother
@Xz_982114 күн бұрын
the sticky grenade combat shotgun is actually pretty useful, a single sticky grenade into a cacodemons mouth instantly makes them able to glory kill
@wiggytommy8607Ай бұрын
Weapon rankings have always seemed like a strange case to me
@flameconvoy7424Ай бұрын
I’d actually be really interested in seeing a full tier list on just the fun feel of each weapon
@LiamDaniels-np3vlАй бұрын
Puting rock jump on the rocket section is a good choice
@dimoniysh5075Ай бұрын
1:26 - it depends on where do you hit, i don't know if spread is random but it is pretty controloble if you know where to show (i.e. bodyshot close range will stager zombie gunners and kill imps, hitting to the side staggers imps and, on second shot, staggers zombie gunman. imps have the same health as those fodder unarmed zombies)
@IDrinkLavaАй бұрын
Doom Eternal's shotguns all fire fixed spread patterns, but with randomized decals to give it the illusion of being RNG for...some reason.
@dimoniysh5075Ай бұрын
@@IDrinkLava i see, i guess they though set pattern of spread would look wierd
@browdoeАй бұрын
Honestly i think plasma rifle as a whole has no real use since quickswitching exists and is WAY more useful than just using one weapon for just a bit longer, the damage output is just unmathced. You could also say that thing for chainguin, but it has that op shield, that honestly on it's own could be classified as a super weapon with how much you can get away with this thing. That makes it strange (atleast in my book), that the micorwave beam is the only actually useful thing on plasma rifle, since you can atleast stun enemies by just clicking on them with this mod. Why would you use heat blast mod, when you won't be using plasma rifle to charge the blast to begin with, when you have all these ballista, heavy cannon, supershotgun, rocket launcher combos which deal so much more damage than the plasma rifle. Sure, if you could only use 1 weapon through level and that weapon would be plasma rifle, than it makes total sense to use heat blast mod, but with all of these other options it just doesn't.
@Arakus99Ай бұрын
Tbf heat blast stuns in an aoe, not just one target
@Esik0vАй бұрын
I refuse to take this list seriously after seeing missiles, stickies and meme beam in such low tiers
@LordRemiemАй бұрын
I have the game but haven't played it yet - I'll save this video and rewatch it a second time when I'll play it!
@aveage-brush-playerАй бұрын
man i just can’t wait to get that new pc next week and play this masterpiece i did play a bit on console at a frinds place but its not the same
@sniperbodyshotАй бұрын
Soldier theme in rocket launcher part 👍
@valiantchris6456Ай бұрын
Ah yes, the Sentinel Hammer. The Urshifu of Doom Eternal
You forgot that beam can be used in a quick switch to stun lock enemies but aside from that everything is perfect here and i got to know new things even! Correction tho, ballista charge doesn't do more dmg
@blackscorpion1899Ай бұрын
fish came in clutch just as i started my ultra nightmare run
@AsoforicАй бұрын
Good video, good editing, nice.
@jinshimizuАй бұрын
26:41 you can use crucible to kills dlc enemies even possessed one. If you're playing something like randomizer or moded levels that had dlc enemies spawns in the base campaign a quick crucible would still worth it
@PunchbadguyАй бұрын
I feel another thing to add to the precision bolt is that it's better on pc than it is on console. Being able to swap at the press of a button and flick onto a demon's head is way easier on pc since for console you have to open up the weapon wheel, select the weapon, ads, move slowly to their head then shoot.
@yureaugusto4943Ай бұрын
an in defence of remote detonation maybe ?
@hughmann981Ай бұрын
I’m very interested in seeing a similar thing for Fallout: New Vegas’s unique weapons
@DDumdee5867Ай бұрын
did you play the mod kaisercampain? because it is entirely balanced around the hammer and it is charged with weak point breaks and blood punch kills. i think you need four of ether to charge it up
@Bro-m7lАй бұрын
If your on your 2nd or 3rd play through the super shotgun is the best weapon in the whole game. And then I remembered the ballista
@starfraud9670Ай бұрын
Please do an ultrakill vid, of the 27 weapons in the game, there’s only one I would call bad, and another that’s irrelevant if you can parry. Meaning you may not get a bad weapon academy out of it, but it would still be fun to hear you talk about it.
@Grayson-tk5hnАй бұрын
if the sticky bomb launcher doesnt get number 1 i will riot prepare for the riot
@spud7234Ай бұрын
I really wanna see fish do more boomer shooter content, it would be awesome
@Haaton-of-the-BasementАй бұрын
The meathook has to show up atleast at the last part of Doom TDA cause it would explain how he got it and also it solidifies the SSG with the meathook as the original Doomguy SSG. Cause ya know, 2016 SSG is just a regular SSG still UAC made but nothing like the Doomguy upgraded SSG that went through hell with him.
@shapshane8241Ай бұрын
26:36 and doom hunter, even the nonboss version takes 2 crucible swings
@theflyingfish66Ай бұрын
I don't know why, but for some reason the shotgun sticky bombs tickle my brain in just the right way. Ripping off consecutive headshots, or hitting enemies from across the arena while dodging like a madman... Idk it just feels fantastic to use. In comparison I was honestly disappointed by the Super Shotgun. Just feels gross to use, i think it's how wide the spread is. Also takes away ammo that could be used for sticky bomb snipes.
@massgunner4152Ай бұрын
The heavy assault rifle also gets minus points for being so danm ugly, is like they tortured a p90 and grafted it on an evil scifi energy weapon.
@mattguy1773Ай бұрын
Doomguy came into heck and doomguyed everywhere
@TealsquiddevАй бұрын
Wake up babe new fish was added to the stick
@biz117Ай бұрын
i will not stand this combat shotgun slander
@jckyman9515Ай бұрын
I would love to see a video like this on ultrakill
@shaldurprime7154Ай бұрын
God damn I'm a bad fan, I've been subscribed for two or three years and I only just noticed that put channel name is fish stick on a stick, it says stick twice. And I only noticed because the logo was put on front and center at the start of the video
@exxon101Ай бұрын
You forgot to review the Chainsaw dummy ❤
@TheSixteen60Ай бұрын
Doom 2016 weapon tier list when?
@AdityaSingh-lp5rp21 күн бұрын
i love the tf2 theme on the rocket launcher lol
@MrPwner911Ай бұрын
22:55 hell knight jumpscare
@grangergonzalez982111 күн бұрын
I say Super Shotgun is Higher than BFG, see, most High level play sees quickswaps and so on. But I finished the entire game in 1 single run, including DLC, on Ultra Nightmare, with JUST the Super shotgun and I ONLY use the Ballista if I see a Pain Elemental. Yes That's literally it. That's Cause Blood punch is super viable if you have an HP/Armor Regen Kit specifically for being a tough bastard, that Shotgun just OBLITERATES in a Punchswap Comp.
@henrynagel7175Ай бұрын
Can’t imagine how long it took to make those graphics. Looked fantastic though
@ABSOLUTAMENTENADIE-xy4btАй бұрын
Of course the Scorch Shot is #1. Oh wait wrong game
@omletesyum3592Ай бұрын
Good and happiness wins again!
@15braincellsremainingАй бұрын
yesss more fishy doom content
@LazarheaDАй бұрын
I never got why a shotgun combined with a grenade launcher is so popular, doesn't make sense. Autoshotgun makes way more sense. Also I'm really bad at aiming sticky bombs at cacodemon mouths.
@ShakerSilverАй бұрын
#JusticeForMemeBeam
@JackNick2000Ай бұрын
The best Doom weapon is definitely Doomguy
@averagesnailgodpraiser3840Ай бұрын
5:23 I disagree, it sounds like the Puma ifv’s 30mm in real life and I think it’s an awesome sound
@alumpinyourbrainАй бұрын
Ah, I just found that the level 1 heat blast is enough to force a falter. What is even the point of it? It feels like an exploit. You can already mincemeat Tyrants in easy and way cooler ways than spamming Plasma Rifle. DOOM 2016 heat blast still wins.