I went to Harvard. The bribery scandal is no surprise. (a rant)

[@ForHarriet619]

My experience as a Black woman at Harvard on Patreon.com/ForHarriet

[@minayang5475]

Thanks for sharing! Agreed with everything you said. I watched this video on 1.5 speed and I was just like...YES! YES! YESSSS!!! The entire time haha. I'm also not surprised at rich people paying their way in. I believe this is just the tip of the iceberg.

[@KrisJanJack]

@9:29 *That's* the 64K question: Why didn't they just take that $$$ and apply it to tutors? Tutors that could teach them so they could honestly pass those exams; thus, no *bribes* are necessary.

[@spatty2589]

Harvard wasn't named in the indictment.

[@yogidevendrabiriyani1777]

i knew something was up in my teenage years in the 90s. kids with 110 grade averages and stellar iq(ugh er-) sat scores lost to arrogant douches with 92 gpa and 1210 scores. ands the weird way that working class families NEVER have these discussions with anyone else , tips and how to get in, what theyre looking for etc. all i ever got was "youre so smart" and "youre so much kinder and smarter than everyone else" and yet everyone else went ivy and i was stuck going to public college , all while everyone kept telling us thatthe best schools had the brightest kids. it's weird....IT NEVER MADE SENSE

[@yogidevendrabiriyani1777]

Pat no one cares about the indictment dummy, it's all the same, it's the same system. all the red flags are there anyway

[@francesca8413]

As Sunny Hostin put it on The View, "How mediocre must you be if you have to game a system that disproportionately advantages you anyway?"

[@chavaliernsharps]

Damn!!!!!!

[@IjeomaThePlantMama]

I screamed "THANK YOUUUU" when she said that. Seriously, you can hire the best tutors money can buy. Talk about laaaaazy!

[@talitam.8414]

Francesca ooooooouuuuuh....!

[@BlendedBarbieDoll]

🙌🏽 yes she was telling the whole truth and nothing but the truth!

[@AdultThirdCultureKid1971]

Francesca She's right. I'd ask that of Jared and Ivanka, their siblings, and parents that, actually.

[@NattieNat05]

They need to investigate Medical School admissions next.... some of my classmates ... girl 🤦🏾‍♀️

[@jiminstinyhands7776]

NattieNat05 can we please talk about this cuz of my god medical students make me wanna scream

[@marshad905]

lol 🤣🤣, yet scary😟

[@katiePetsy]

That's actually quite frightening. You want the best students in that field

[@martha6773]

Damn I want to go to Med school I’ll be pissed if something like this happens

[@xanaduxanadu4325]

Haha pre med students were the biggest cheaters ever.

[@zoe2969]

People really think black people are just out here getting free degrees and places at prestigious schools

[@cynthiaallen9225]

I don't. Once into, you have to pass.

[@alaaye5237]

When it’s actually a bunch of privileged white people sending their mediocre kids to Ivy League schools.

[@CarlosLopez-nu9rq]

Go and ask Jesse Lee Peterson, how he feels about that......

[@cotinaspann9475]

From my understanding, the FBI stumbled onto this scheme. They were investigating something else that connected to this scheme somehow. I agree with you that college is important. We are seeing the results of our country being ran by D students.

[@meritofapproval]

Cotina Spann Excellent last sentence! 👍

[@iguessitsokyungrichbaby2813]

Especially since these students are openly stating they “don’t really care about school”

[@marathongirl27]

Cotina Spann ... A Los Angeles financial executive, Morrie Tobin, was being investigated for securities fraud. Tobin gave up info on the college scam to the FBI in hopes of a lessor sentence.

[@jfm14]

I mostly agree, but let's keep in mind that grades aren't necessarily a reflection of intelligence.

[@cotinaspann9475]

@@jfm14 Oh yes, I agree. Grades are only a small measurement of intelligence. I'm more about the ability of people to adapt to and understand situations. Also their ability to empathize and sympathize with people of different religions, sex, race, social economic levels, etc.

[@angelal7068]

College is a business and your country has created a pay to learn scheme, just like it created health insurance and convinced Americans they can’t afford Medicare or free healthcare. But how does the rest of the developed world manage? We have higher education that doesn’t require years of college to gain degrees that costs more than a house! We still have jobs and function as a society without the need for Ivy League diplomas, America has created the need for a college degree as a minimum like a high school diploma but it’s not the reality of what is required in a work force. It’s your culture that’s the problem and it needs to change.

[@ayanna6327]

100% agree.

[@Flynerdybarber]

Major facts

[@Yukosan13]

Too true

[@queenperson6833]

The only reason I'm going to uni is because I want to be a lawyer. If I wanted to work in IT then I would just take an apprenticeship like my brother!

[@rayck4008]

Facts!

[@helloalexandraa]

Title: i went to Harvard Intro: The video is out of focus because I’m really not that smart U crack me up 😂

[@caro8712]

Xandra she’s certainly smarter than you. What are you doing here listening to someone who’s not “that smart”, that means you’re stupid. She’s incredibly smart.

[@melisacaceres8740]

@@caro8712 She's not hating, she just found funny the small disclaimer because this incredibly smart woman can make a small mistake just like all of us.

[@philvalz]

I thought I just had a bad connection. ^^ On topic: If you are good at one thing, it doesn't mean you have to be good in another. But her other videos are in focus, so she is smart in that, too, in the end.

[@vacationbonerschool]

@@caro8712 99% sure she's referring to the text box that literally writes these very words: "the video is out of focus because i'm really not that smart"

[@koriribarsosio4174]

I am not surprised either. I went to Columbia Journalism School. Saw a lot of this-white white white supremacy, and rich entitled kids who were undeserving of admissions. Also, they are the first to get great opportunities even before graduating. Sigh

[@bryanalstoncoxing]

Dartmouth here - so much mediocrity witnessed as well

[@Machelle3200]

I"m not surprised..Life is more about WHO you know..than WHAT you know...smfh

[@SR-oc7fc]

This is about rich privilege, not white privilege. If you actually look at the other families involved, you will see faces of every color involved in this scandal. Sorry!

[@bryanalstoncoxing]

Susan Rose you’re right, but also should realize that the two have a lot of overlap in the US. For example, White people face less housing discrimination (meaning they can live in neighborhoods with better public and private schooling), are more likely to have received inheritances that were earned by the cheap housing that was flooded the market in the 40s and 50s (which minorities were shut out of), and due to many companies hiring those in their networks and based on “cultural fit” are more likely to move up the corporate ladder with higher pay. In addition, around 15% of admissions at Ivy League schools goes to legacy students, almost all of whom are White. So yes, rich privilege is a thing and exists across all races, but due to the head start Whites have had in this country and the institutional barriers that have been put in place by both the government and private sector, a disproportionate amount of the nation’s wealth has been obtained and hoarded by White people. Rich privilege and White privilege have a high amount of overlap. A perfect example is when you look at white collar criminals - most of these scammers on Wall Street are white men that can topple corporations or tank the global economy but get a slap on the wrist, avoid jail time and still continue to make millions of dollars.

[@koriribarsosio4174]

@@bryanalstoncoxing well stated. You said everything I was thinking

[@juanitaf.m]

As a black woman who rowed crew while attending a PUBLIC high school, the "caucasity" of Lori Loughlin and her daughters' applications almost took me all the way out. I'm not shocked by the concept, but the fact that they used a sport I follow-- broke my heart and wallet🤣🤣🤣. I WISH I could've gotten a serious college scholarship but I had no knowledge about applying for it as an athletic scholarship. My parents focused on academics and HBCU's. Applying as an athlete wasn't a thing for me lol. "I could've been a contender!!!"

[@juicyplumplum2841]

YuPiMSPECL how about the fact that your coach didn’t alert you or the fact that elite recruiters only come to public schools for certain sports.

[@misacruzader]

I'm so sorry. You deserve prosperity and comfort as much as any other American, white or otherwise

[@thinkingoutloud3358]

Juicy PlumPlum wow I didn’t even think of that good point. Smh

[@Kittichanlove]

Such a good point about women being jailed just for using family addresses. The injustice!

[@CharleneWithrow]

amen

[@yogidevendrabiriyani1777]

if youve ever read the book (or seen the movie) A Tree Grows in Brooklyn, about a poor child of immigrants in like 1916 or so who wants to go to college and be a writer, there are some great scenes in there where they are considering falsifying their address (little apartment in a poor part of brooklyn) to that of a vacant house and going back and forth about the risk of that, so that the kid can go to the rich girl school to get the better quality education. it's always been an issue, your zip defines your future.

[@AdultThirdCultureKid1971]

Kittichanlove Agreed! My mother saw a similar kind of injustice and inequality when she first started teaching in the late 1960s and early 1970s in Massachusetts.

[@Oonagh72]

These parents are so invested as an ego stroke. Olivia Jade is a perfect example-she had no need to go to college, she had an up and coming business, but her parents forced her into going to school.

[@talitam.8414]

Oonagh72 and she is not interested in college. The waste OMG 😨

[@AdultThirdCultureKid1971]

Oonagh72 I can understand parents wanting the best for their teens where their futures are concerned, but this keeping up with the Joneses is pathetic.

[@Adardidnothingwrong]

I went to the University of North Florida and I was shocked. I honestly thought that the people who went to elite colleges were just smarter than me, and that I got into a state school because I'm smart but not a genius. This scandal had made me rethink everything, especially SAT scores

[@jazminewaters2404]

Really wow..Im not at all at all...

[@Dominini]

FOR RICH PEOPLE, COLLEGE ISNT ABOUT SCHOOL. They are getting access to social networks and organizations. Dont get it twisted. They fully understand they have the capital necessary to never "need" to go to school. There are two pieces of information that I think are worth examining... 1. The average black college graduates make less than the average white high school graduate. 2. By 2047, half of existing jobs will disappear due to mechanization. Blacks graduates make less because we, on average, go into non-STEM fields. The money is in STEM. Also, once mechanization hits hard, only people within fields connected to STEM will have an easy time finding employment. Telling people to simply go to college doesnt cut it. They need to be told that if they dont pick the right career path, it could be an incredibly expensive waste of time.

[@bres.4806]

Preach.

[@kayawells8384]

Very true I am an African American woman majoring in marine biology which of course I’m the only one in that major who is of color, we need to get rid of these stereotypes and stigmas and encourage more black people to look into these fields, that’s where opportunities are

[@falalala125]

The burden of racism though distracts from these pursuits because people of color also have to have some people go into activism and altruistic paths to fight poverty and fight for justice or nothing would change. Another example where privilege frees up white people to do what they want, because they don't need activists to fight for their rights. But you can be an activist and be in STEM, but then you have less time to network and build other aspects of your career. We need to value activism in job applications as equal to being involved in professional associations. I am Asian and i love watching this channel. I don't think the lawsuit should be targeting affirmative action. I think they should ask why if a white person had the same accomplishments as an Asian person, they would get in, but not the Asian. I don't know if this is how the admissions work, but I don't think Asians should be compared to each other as if there's a limited quota of how many Asians they can admit and they have to compete internally with each other for those spots. But let's face it, there probably is a limit because they have to make room for the rich white people who get uncomfortable if they're around too many people of color. I think it's awesome Kamala Harris as a Howard University alum is highlighting the importance of supporting historically black colleges, which is now attracting more funding. The truth is you can get a great education anywhere if you work hard. Donations should go to state schools and community colleges who are the most inclusive and accessible. Harvard and the rest of the ivy league reputation are built on white privilege and they are institutions that thrive on white privilege and its exclusivity.

[@candygirl20048]

Yes!

[@ben4996]

I had friends at Stanford.. the first thing they brought up was grade inflation. this was an open secret 10 years ago.

[@isabelriquelme8744]

I don't understand the surprise....we always knew the rich could go to the best universities and colleges and have the best opportunities that life can offer based on their income , and not on their brains....just think of George W. Bush...

[@authoralysmarchand4737]

When I was in high school in the 90's, Newsweek and US Weekly had articles on the lengths rich people were going to to get their kids into college on scholarships, including flying in personal planes to go meet with administrators to appeal their kids being denied scholarships. The rich using wealth to get their way isn't a new discovery. I'm just glad that it's finally got people pissed off to talk about it.

[@minakomann7933]

It’s less that and more the blatancy of not trying to pretend they made a donation which would still be unfair but otherwise legal.

[@new0news]

What boggles my mind is how the poor to middle class keep pitting themselves against each other. People get mad that affirmative action takes spots from qualified individuals who are in a majority when there'd be lots of open spots if undeserving rich people weren't taking them up. XD We keep fighting wars against our own class while the rich take everything while we are distracted.

[@littleeva]

Old lady here. I went to a private school in NYC and we were prepped at very young ages to go to college. When I was a senior, we had to apply to four private colleges and all state and city universities. We were prepped for the SAT's early on. We were coached on how to apply to college. I thought that was the norm. This was in the 1970's.

[@AlexaDonne]

I LOVE THIS VIDEO. Everything about it. Completely reflects my experiences/observations attending a private elite as a lower class person, though I was at BU and not even an Ivy. I've been doing college admissions essay work for the last 5 years or so, both pro bono (underprivileged students) and paid (rich kids!) and so, yeah, when this "scandal" broke I laughed--I was not surprised in the slightest. People with money have been "cheating" when it comes to higher education forever: if you have money, you have a leg up, period. And that leg up starts when you're in elementary school (or before) in terms of all the advantages you get over time. What drives me bonkers is everyone saying "this is why there should just be a lottery for admission!" NO. That would just mean it's a different selection of rich (mostly white) people at these schools. Holistic review and the URM consideration system is a GOOD THING. These schools needs to admit fewer privileged white people (and privileged people, period) and more of... everyone else. Everything you said about how this system works, what it means, systemic inequities in our culture--just yes, yes, yes. I already loved your channel, and now I love it even more! This has been a trigger issue for me ever since I graduated school (and found b/c I didn't come from money that post-graduation options varied WIDELY). I've been shouting, and now I'm laughing because SEE, EVERYONE?!

[@IVYSTARR-i3k]

Well said!

[@AlexaDonne]

@PeachOats But the point is that the more money someone has, the easier it is to appear qualified on paper. Elite schools are having to look beyond the things people can pay for to buff up their applications, and spot inherent talent, and intellectual potential that may not be as obvious because of lack of privilege. We have to challenge what "qualified" means, because the rich are able to fake it/develop it more easily than anyone else.

[@AvecPoesie]

@@AlexaDonne Exceptionally well-said.

[@Tessy29k]

These elite schools need the donations. They thrive off the donations of these rich parents. Rich people don't donate to institutions that everyone can attend to. Less privileged people attending would mean less donations and that in turn would mean less scholarships available for the less privileged people who are granted a place by universities. A lot of scholarships and refurbishments to universities are funded by these rich donors and these rich donors like to keep the status quo. Rich people don't like to mix with normal everyday Joe's. The universities will admit a few lower class people to maintain an image of being progressive but they will always bow to their donors.

[@goddess2859]

While we’re here, I’m a lower class BIPOC applying to elite graduate school programs. Any tips 😭

[@andylarkin9462]

The thing is, the amount of DEBT that black people accrue in pursuit of a degree and the barriers to entry (lack of minority hiring) does not build black wealth. A black person leaving college with 100k in debt to trust the system to hire them off their knowledge/skill rather than nepotism to the next person is a risk. Trades, entrepreneurship, civil service bring same lifestyle with less risk. As for why rich white parents pay for their kids to go to college, BECAUSE THEY HAVE JOBS ALREADY LINED UP. Peace.

[@obscurity87]

Andy Larkin couldn’t agree more with this statement

[@lindacosta5688]

And remember, once you get out there in the real world with that expensive degree, you will be lucky if you are offered 40K a year starting out. Wages are pathetic. Even lawyers drive Uber part time to pay off debts from law school. No joke

[@blueorchid8081]

it's the parent's narcissism. I'm lazy and I'm fine studying at an average university. I hate competition and how capitalism fetishises and intoxicates education. I feel schadenfreude. not with regard to the ones who got busted but to those who claim that hard work can get you anywhere and failing is an individual's fault. Even presidencies were fully based on fraternity connections.

[@ratherbenapping10]

Carla D. 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

[@blandon9867]

So...it really is true that it's not WHAT YOU KNOW, IT'S WHO YOU KNOW, and this proves THAT!

[@lexroza6422]

I'm so disappointed in Felicity Huffman I actually respected her as an actress outside of housewives. I'm conflicted as a fan honestly. It just seems so stupid to me tho why would you even cheat for something not even worth it I mean they're rich

[@SisterKnight]

Ok, I was saying the same thing. With their money and resources the title of ivy league graduate is so unnecessary. Why are they spending that money to get a piece a paper, when the paper they already have can achieve so much. It's a bragging thing I'm sure. A thing that their entitled underachieving kids dont even care about.

[@lexroza6422]

@@SisterKnight exactly well said

[@authoralysmarchand4737]

@@SisterKnight It's definitely about brag rights. It shows that they and/or their kids know how to pull strings for personal benefit, which is something other rich people want to see in those they hire.

[@ingriddubbel8468]

People respect you more if you went to college.

[@kimmyball4961]

@@taharqa332 People can feel whatever way they seem fit. Don't bash someone because you don't agree.

[@HitoKunioka]

Little mediocre daughter. So true!!

[@tapiwakay]

Apparently rich kids are born without bootstraps.

[@sunnydaze80]

This scandal brings out so many problems with the education system in America. You bring up a good point about the scarcity of college education. Not only are admission rates low, but it's getting too expensive and out of reach for many people. This scandal is just the result of higher education being out of reach for many.

[@ToyaTsubscribe]

Admission rates are low at elite schools. There are plenty of colleges with low acceptance rates. The admission rates are based on number of people that apply and the number of spots available. The elite schools attract a lot of applicants and tout their ability to attract lots of applicants. The number of seats do not change.

[@sunnydaze80]

@@ToyaTsubscribe That makes sense. I went to college over a decade ago to a fuddy duddy state university lol.

[@j.baldwinwasagenius...7575]

There are more than 4,000 colleges and universities in the U.S.

[@meritofapproval]

Superb analysis of a distorted system. Kudos to you young lady! 👍

[@Covers-and-Commentary]

These are not petty crimes this is fraud. Also as far as college mattering, it only matters because the goal posts have been moved. It doesn’t mean you know what you’re doing. For customer service jobs you NOW need a college degree. The position is the same but its so they can filter out certain people.

[@noirking6138]

THANK YOU! I just said this. "Petty crimes?" Man that's a whole TAX FRAUD and much more kind of situation. This isn't a few dollars, this is MILLIONS and on a federal level at that. I don't feel one once of sympathy either. Lock'em up! We have people in jail for much less than this.

[@adrivoid5376]

Im not shocked as a working class scholarship student at an 'elite college'. The whole American college system is based on classism and elitism. We all know rich kids can be completely mediocre and being able to pay in full just gets them in. I know kids who had their essays written for them and got the best sat training money could buy. Beyond the childhood of privilege that gives them shiny activities (going to expensive summer programs and private schools that train kids so they all get into Ivys) and higher gpas. I completely relate to you in that I had to do everything by myself! And I didnt even know these kind of private schools existed, I have a friend where everyone goes to Ivys or elites meanwhile Im one of a handful of kids from my grade who didn't go to community or to cosmetology (nothing wrong with that but its about opportunity). This is American college! If you have money you can go while the rest of us have to work hard and still take out loans!

[@truthteller816]

“Rich people are hoarding opportunities and resources to make sure they cannot fail” 👏🏾👏🏾This right here, is the silver bullet, sums it up perfectly 👌🏾Well said!

[@WrestlinginColorPodcast]

And society says YOU ARE A GENIUS IF YOU GO TO HARVARD that's why you wanted to go in the first place

[@mdaze9753]

Parents live vicariously through their children -- BINGO. Parent's self-worth is linked to the success of their children.

[@TheKingofSwang]

How's that for irony you,an oklahoma girl went to Harvard and me a city boy from Chicago went to OU (loved it by the way)

[@gwenraiden]

You're being generous when you describe Lori's daughters as mediocre. Lol

[@ZSAN12]

I agree with you 1000%, its not only abt intelligence, its abt resources. This is why inner city schools are deliberately starved of resources hoping that a small % kids are able to fight and claw their way to the top to be real competitors for success and the power of this country

[@tlldrkhndsum]

Idk if college matters as much in this society. There’s sooooo many ways of networking than just the people you meet in college. I work at a small online grocery store. No college degree needed to work there. But there’s 4 other associates around my age, 30 with a bachelor’s degree. They can’t get jobs in their respected feels but they work here with me. 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@VerdeLane]

If there's a corprate positions with your company? Which of you are more prepared or preferred? 🙍 Or maybe if positions in their respective fields become open? 🙍

[@feyrol42]

Kris Be Knowin’ on average college graduates do better in life. Look at the statistics, also some graduates might not get their preferred job and work ‘low level jobs’ that doesn’t mean they won’t get a graduate job eventually.

[@plmitch]

@@IshtarNike it depends on what you're looking to do. my English degree has DEFINITELY gotten me MUCH farther in life than had i NOT gotten it. it's gotten me better wages/salaries on jobs than others, it's gotten me promotions--it's just helped me edge out other people in a host of situations. it DEFINITELY MATTERS.....

[@mermaidtingzzz]

Matters where you go and the level of degree. Bachelor's isn't enough these days. Also if they networked with professors and companies in their field while in school.

[@ninagrace-lee8323]

Going to college greatly increases the earnings of Black people, especially Black men. For us, a Bachelors is the equivalent of a high school diploma. We can’t afford to tell our kids that they shouldn’t go to college. What we SHOULD be telling our kids is that they need to aim for high status: doctors, lawyers and engineers need to be the standard for our kids. But that is a cultural shift - just getting any degree isn’t worth it. Socially pressure your kids to aim high

[@breannajoseph2018]

*”College degree is the new high school diploma”.*

[@adanne29]

College DOES MATTER. And the personal, federal, and economically connected money involved in getting in college and receiving a diploma inorder to join the US work force is ALOT overall. Not much different than any other high-stakes investments involved in more typical racketeering cases. That's why the FEDS were sent out

[@WordsofHarmony]

Chinyelu Ndubisi IT CAN MATTER

[@adanne29]

@@WordsofHarmonyI don't understand what you mean by that? Do you mean it doesn't matter to everyone?

[@cutienerdgirl]

@@adanne29 It doesn't matter for everyone, it depends on the career you choose.

[@adanne29]

@@cutienerdgirlI get that.

[@ImaniFaithfully425]

I'm listening to this as I am gathering articles for a research paper. You are so right, in a world rigged against us, being mediocre is almost a guaranteed way to become dependent.

[@kstamps410]

Yes, a college education still has value. However, the behavior of rich, white people is not a signal of that value when one considers that they are the very group who do not necessarily need a college education. It seems the motivation of these particular rich, white people was status. After all, their not-so-very-bright children could have earned entrance onto some other university campus.

[@pluto545]

Why do the wealthiest Americans, along with people in African, Asian, South American countries, along with Australia send their children to best academies, tutors, and institutions, unanimously. I'm sorry, when average people say it's just status and credentials to show off, they don't need it. Yet, many rich people are very savvy, intelligent, genius, or aware of the game, as their wealth is expanded and protected. While, even the person with a trade has to pay for someone or school to teach them, help them get a certification, and maybe find job. Having a trade is very valuable and easy to pick up, but for the most part, on average, it doesn't beat having a profound degree or Master's from a prestigious college. Even with the "so-called" liberal art degrees, they actually can lead into some really high-level jobs in different industries. Administration, managerial, executive, and important decision making jobs.

[@AmaKOws]

You broke that down brilliantly I unfortunately watched Wendy and she told her audience not to go to collage at all. I really expect at least some of the parents to have to go to jail because there is so much evidence to show how they made fun of the system and there are several cases of black woman getting penalties of 4 years for pretending their child lives at its aunts house so that it can go to a better school. although I know that these penalties were put in place so that black people know that they can not take part in rigging the system.

[@JuriAmari]

I’m not surprised that this was happening. I’m currently going to Harvard for grad school. When my mom found out about this, she immediately said to me “you got in there on your own merit! You keep doing you!” I love learning and using my new skills. When you described having to dial down that characteristic, I felt that so strongly as I had to do that so frequently when I was younger. I’m so lucky that I have friends and coworkers who appreciate my nerdiness. Going through college, I’ve especially learned about how many rare privileges I’ve experienced as a black woman. Thank you so much for doing this video.

[@sarahjoyce3]

Dope video..I do think that “smart” is a relative term though. Does smart mean a person is a good test taker? Does smart mean you are good at memorizing and maintaining facts? Does smart mean you can take care of yourself and your home by anticipating life’s curve balls? The word “smart” is used so often, but I feel it’s definition is more complicated and relative to a person’s strengths. Someone might have excellent grades and test scores, but might not be particularly “smart” elsewhere in life. 🤷🏽‍♀️🤷🏼‍♀️ love the video!

[@mickiemallorie]

Let's not forget the many black educators that were arrested and jailed over allegedly changing answers on tests....they should have their degrees revoked and be placed in jail.

[@ChannelFiend]

I think you're conflating 2 different ideas : Going to an Ivy League College for status (what these rich white folks tried to do and what most others do quite frankly) vs. Going to college and getting a degree that doesn't work for you (what Killer Mike is against). If Black PEOPLE have to do twice as much & go twice as hard to get 1/2 of what white folks get, it would make more sense for minority PEOPLE to get a trade which costs a lot less & requires a lot less of their/ our time in order to secure the service sector (medical technical positions, plumbers, legal assistant, and the like) bag that won't get turned over to Ai & automation that quickly if at all. As for the elite schools, a lot of Black folks who made the grade throughout high school don't/ didn't have the desire to go to elite schools. There's a whole other level of racism & bullschit at those schools. Most of us aren't going to go through that schit just to be associated with the ivy school's brand. We'll happily drag our UT (Texas), Creighton University, UNLV, and so on degree over our back and keep it moving! As for these rich white families buying their childrens way into elite colleges, they did such because like you said, their kids are an extension of them. They have a circle they're flexing to and an appearance they need to keep up. They know they're kids are dumber than a bag of bricks & lack the drive to get their own selves in & probably have the absolute most average grades that will keep them in. & yes it's unfair, but more so than anything, it's what white folks do! They move the goal post for everyone else while dialing it back for themselves because even in their best day they aren't able to compete. And for every white person who has screamed 'reverse racism' because a Black or Brown person took their spot, they really need to STFU and stuff all of that nonsense up their own rectum. The white chick/dude who's parents had the money to bribe their child into school took their spot. The BLACK student worked their butt off and derserves it more than the 2 of you!!!

[@Coldsummer91]

Yeah Lori Loughlin's daughter didn't need to go to college. She had a successful KZbin channel, and had deals with brands. She only did just so she could have the title of an IV student.

[@reikun86]

J. Jo it's not.

[@essencekk]

@@JennHayden It's not an Ivy but it has a HUGE alumini network. Huge!!!

[@Tessy29k]

Some of the rich kids are intelligent and can get in on their own merit but for those who aren't that's where their parents step in.

[@indigogirl5172]

I agree, that I am just surprised they got caught. Another way students “cheat” to get ahead is using stimulants. I did a small study in college some years ago. I was surprised to know that most student used to had used a stimulant such as Adderall, to improve their concentration and ability to study for longer periods of time. All it takes is a few visits to the doctor with the right words and you got a prescription. It sucks to find out students were using these drugs to get an unfair advantage. Plus being black I constantly had to fight for my grades and prove myself because it may have been assumed I got into college based on affirmative action rather than merit.

[@jyarb]

Can you make a video explaining your argument that education is not the solution to inequality but the perpetuator of it? Imma huge fan and I would love to here what you have to say because that’s a really interesting thing to say.

[@indigophoenixskies1030]

Provocative, right? Counter to everything I've been taught about education but I'm more recently feeling like this

[@Photologistic]

That’s not it. Class perpetuates inequality, not education.

[@authoralysmarchand4737]

A lack of equal access to good schools (which includes elementary through high school) that won't financially destroy a family is the perpetrator.

[@ayanna6327]

I don't think she meant it in that education itself is inherently producing the inequality, but the way the system is set up does.

[@slena]

basically education is set up in a way that in order to succeed (ie get a degree), you have to obey a certain set rules, some said some unsaid. the explicit rules like doing well on tests appear to be attainable for everyone, but people from the upper class have an advantage in succeeding, because their money can buy tutors etc. then there are the implicit rules, which are more around the cultural references and the manner of speech and connections, by virtue of being born into an upper class family, a kid naturally integrates those rules that a poorer kid has to become aware of and work hard to emulate. this means that at the end of the day, more rich kids have diplomas, not because they are better, but because they have privileges, but since the degree is supposed to be a validation of success and an indication of worth, people see it as a way to show that rich person is thus worthy of their wealth, and the poor person (who statistically fails more) deserves to be poor because they couldn't achieve what the already rich one could. when in reality rich people succeed because the system is made by other people high in the hierarchy, with standards that one can reach by working hard, but more easily by being born into money, so i think it's not so much that education creates inequality (although with the us debt problem you could argue that it deepens it) but more that it isn't as much there to create mobility but rather to legitimate wealth and preserve the status quo

[@Deezblunts000]

Thank you so much I'm literally crying. I have internalized a lot of this hierarchy system and question myself and my competence all the time. I lived in a single parent household and my mother never even asked about what was going on in school. I still think that if I was smart enough I could "pull myself up by the bootstraps" and be successful. But I don't have any capital or mentorship to start a business, and I went to an average college. I observe people and feel like I have a lot more common sense than the ones who are successful. Still struggling and I'm almost 30

[@egyptkiss07]

"The consequences of being mediocre in a society where stuff is already rigged against you are ENORMOUS." MY GOD, a WORD!!!!!!!!!! Thank you so much for this channel / platform, and for the jewels you constantly donate to the masses!!! Folk betta come get this free education!!! Glad you have a Patreon, I would love to support you!!!

[@chillin5703]

This is literally just how things go. Even if this unfair door has been closed, there are still dozens of stupid ‘doors’ people use to get into university...

[@sierrawilkinson2557]

Was waiting on this! Gorgeous as always 💘

[@guitarman122508]

Your footage may have been out of focus, but you were crystal clear. Great video as always!

[@janitawilliams6158]

Also i feel like the feds should snatched their degree so if they hold a higher position in a company they should be escorted off the premises because it's fraud

[@ahnobi]

Ouch. That would hurt😝

[@TheeBoujieeBabyPodcast]

Girrrrrl I totally agree with you about the importance of going to college. I am an electronics engineering major and I take it very seriously. I’m also going to get my masters next year in Project Management bc like you said, “a college degree is the new high school diploma”. I have been ignoring the whole “college doesn’t matter, a degree is just a paper” nonsense. We know the truth. College develops more than just the intellect. It changes you moreover.

[@CoilyTwizzler]

I love your opinions! I gotta disagree with a point you made though about this being an indication that college matters..to me, it's less so about college itself and more so about the unequal systems we have to navigate through. Lori Loughlin's daughter is famous and has brand endorsements on her social medias. She literally doesn't "need" college..she could've glided through with failing grades, had those changed, and would still get out and be given a job in whatever she wants. The same doesn't apply for us middle/lower class Black people. And it's not just in collegiate settings, it's in every aspect of life. White people have generational wealth and social capital to the point where a lot of times, they can enter whatever space they want with the right connections. That is what we should be challenging. We should question why people who know trades are set up to make less money than somebody who goes to a university. Why is one job more "important" than another? We should constantly challenge that because it's not right.

[@Lafemmefutile]

Krystal There are many trade jobs that earn better than a college degree, it’s just not advertised.

[@kawaiikoibito3268]

Exactly all its for is the social connections to get a high paying job the degree is just a added bonus

[@introspect86]

My significant other works a trade that pays him 6 figures. And he has no student loan debt.

[@kawaiikoibito3268]

@@introspect86 what's his trade?

[@madelinelaake7130]

I just discovered your channel and have been combing through a bunch of your content. I have to say, you seem so well-rounded, intelligent, and refreshing. I wish I could broadcast this to people I know who could use some perspective. Can't wait to see how much your channel grows and develops. You have a lot to be proud of.

[@heatherwojcik6438]

We stan a self-made woman. We stan self made people. I think a work ethic is one of the most valuable things you can learn, and unfortunately for the super rich, money can't buy that.

[@caitlinhouse4919]

I really appreciate your honest perspective. I wish more people would listen to your channel. Love it!

[@SheriMaple]

There's a problem with the US educational system. The curriculum on the elementary and high school level hasn't changed from the Industrial Resolution. Education is in this country is rote and it's by design to work in factories and manufacturing and those jobs are being automated. Critical thinking isn't well taught. There's no art, music, crafting by hand, civics at many of the elementary school. Schools teach students to take tests not reading comprehension or conducting science experiments. The average high school doesn't know or understand geography. When you think about it, this country is mediocre and pretty much skate by on happenstance. The system has always been rigged from the moment the Puritans set foot on Plymouth Rock. I'm under the belief that there are some set of people, con artists, people who enable them, and people who want to do the right thing get pushed to the side. People attend elite schools to gain access to upward mobility. I had a friend who had a nephew who attended Yale. The family paid for him to attend Yale despite the fact that he had full scholarships to attend the University of Delaware and the University of Pennsylvania, So, I asked why they just take advantage of the scholarship at the University of Penn since it was also ivy league and still have connections. Lest just say that question didn't go over well and I believe that they didn't realize that Univ. Penn is ivy league as well. What really got me is that he majored in nursing. There's nothing wrong with nursing but one has to think of how best to spend your money and honestly, if he wanted to become a nurse, then perhaps research colleges and universities with the best nursing programs. He later became a clinical psychologist. I'm also of the mind that if the US had quality elementary and high school education with opportunities of becoming licensed nurses, electricians, plumbers, etc without going to college but continuing education in those fields (education is a continual process), perhaps we have people better prepared by the time they graduate from high school. I'll never understand why someone needs to attend college for marketing and sales.

[@AvecPoesie]

Thank you for that comment. It is profoundly accurate. I am American by birth; however, completed my higher education in Europe. The education system in France is much more devoted to individual cultivation of intellectual fortitude as well as applicable skills. From primary school onwards there, children are taught and encouraged to debate healthily and think deeply. Reverence is paid to the arts tremendously! Whereas in the states, art, history, literature, and other humanities are often debased and cast-off as "useless." Untrue! Sadly, most Americans are not well-rounded or substantive and certainly not cultured. High-schoolers abroad are also given the opportunity to earn training and a certification in a technical skill such as plumbing or cosmetology before they pass their Baccalaureate exams and graduate. They recognize not everyone should nor has to be pushed in the direction of University. I feel many Americans are of shallow mind because the system in which they've been taught was of no depth.

[@salami5050]

I always look forward to hearing your thoughts! So well put. Great analysis of the situation.

[@authoralysmarchand4737]

Median wages tend to be higher among college grads because those grads include lawyers and surgeons who tend to start at a higher wage than most people will every earn in a year, and the life expectancy tends to be higher because those grads include rich kids. To the rich, college is a chance to show off to other rich people. "Of, your kid went to UCLA? Well, MY kid went to HARVARD." It's about brag rights, not education. They don't care about the education, and they already have the financial privilege to start near the top even without having skills. College only gets them ahead as a show of pull. If you're rich and can't figure out how to get your kid into a top tier school, will other rich people trust you and/or your kid to know how to game the system to make them money? Nope. The people I know who are doing the best now that we're in our 30's are those who skipped college and instead started working from the ground up. Friends in the same industry who went to school tend to start a step or two above the ground, BUT those who didn't go to college are several steps up at the time the others are graduating. My husband is an example of that. He was a supervisor on a tech company when his same-age peers we finally putting their feet on the ground. All these years later, the achievement gap is still noticeably in his favor. Regardless of the area of the US, this tends to be the case. Of course, if you want to be a surgeon or a lawyer, you must go to college, meaning no non-grads to compare to. But for most industries, a willingness to start as a grub and spend four years working up and building rapport and a resumé of real-world experience is mattering more and more. In addition to ending up higher off the ground at the age of typical graduation, the lack of student loans eating every spare penny and then some for decades has resulted in a significant difference in standard of living. By the way, when job listings state a BA as a qualification, a kick-ass cover letter can override that. I got a tech job clearing $45k working part time with the ability to work from home, and entirely on the strength of my cover letter that touched on things that the hiring manager didn't even know that were relevant to the job. I spent years in the real world gaining experience. My same-age recent college grad friends knew what was in books, and there is a lot that books don't cover, a lot of scenarios that are encountered in a real job. The college-for-all push is detrimental. It doesn't help that very few kids at the ages of just 17 and 18 know what they want to dedicate the rest of their entire lives to. So, so many people who went from high school to college with no adult experience in the real world got degrees in things they ended up not doing. What a waste of time and money when that time could have been spent working jobs to find an industry that one enjoys enough to stay in., while also building a resumé and prospective connections. Not having degrees really doesn't always hold people back. What most often does is a belief that no degree means being doomed, so why bother working hard, a belief borne of the push that a degree is the difference between success and failure. For the rich, it IS the difference, but only because it's about brag rights and a display of knowing how to get strings pulled.

[@perrimac]

I have an uncle (by marriage) who was a researcher at Harvard, two nieces who graduated from Harvard, and they worked their asses off to get there. My Dad was a professor, my mother a nurse (first in their families to go to college), and their kids did and our kids did, and now their kids are preparing to go. Now, that's legacy building. Hard work, having the courage to pursue what they want in life. I am jus finding you a few weeks ago. I am getting ready to do a generational blog in a few weeks because what you are talking about IS what the rest of us should be talking about, too. Blessings.

[@nopeninja8883]

Thanks for this, same as what I saw growing up thru the 70's & 80's. Though Im quite confused as to why its a big thing now. I never saw it as a secret. And have you seen Beau of the Fifth Column on this?

[@sonyayoung263]

College matters, but until we Black people have enough business owners to hire these recent college grads at their businesses we will continue to be under-employed and drowning in student loan. I believe, it’s not either/or, I believe it’s both/and.

[@arozeisarozie]

Sonya Young That’s a really good point, I hadn’t thought of that. Thanks for sharing.

[@m.l.2483]

In the UK, having a degree satisfies the prejudice of many employers. That's why it matters. I have a First Class Mass Comms Degree and work in an unrelated field. My first job hired me because I was a graduate - not that the job needed it so yes I agree University/College matters. It puts you on a higher trajectory earnings wise over your lifetime, and higher earnings impact your health, mental wellbeing, overall satisfaction etc.

[@alessandraeraifej220]

What made this scandal very criminal was how the parents paid by donating to the ringleader’s “charity” where they were able to make it a tax deductible. Money laundering, tax fraud, and wire fraud - it’s crazy how they took the risk as if they believed they’d get away with it.

[@angelagm566]

Not only this happens in college, this is happening in the private sector job market. You find out that your manager received a certificate in Finger Painting by Numbers and ranked number 5 out 4 after graduation.

[@jurneejones5348]

Since you mentioned Affirmative Action can you do a video on it because I'm doing my high school ethics project on this topic.

[@cynthiaallen9225]

You can't her as a legitimate source.

[@blacindo8945]

Yeah feeder schools do exist. I went to one of them, it was a college prep in Detroit. We had many resources that many other schools didn’t. The big difference was it was catered to inner city Latino and black kids.We had multiple deals with universities in Michigan which resulted in us getting in the schools with scholarships.

[@holypicklesmofo]

I'm shocked that they're actually maybe being held accountable. Hopefully this leads to more accountability of "donations".

[@kimberlyglass5111]

I stumbled across your channel accidentally following links after the Leaving Neverland review. Since then I've watched several videos and have been uniformly impressed by you. You give incredibly detailed and understandable explanations of things that most people say are unexplainable phenomena that you "had to be there" (meaning anyone who is not black can never know). As a white woman, I seek to understand truly the feelings and opinions of my black friends and black people in general and have been stymied. I see your channel as being an indispensable resource in my on-going quest for understanding because my friends and most commentators are inadequate for the task. For this, I'm joining your Patreon. You have earned it. Thank you!

[@jen-np9ye]

“Education perpetuates inequality.” FINALLY SOMEONE SAID IT

[@EllysaE]

I know of physicians getting their physician friends to write their children sick notes in order to get more time to write assignments or move tests around to suit them. I saw this happen first hand ... I couldn’t say anything, because how do you prove that and go against the word of so called “respected” professionals? ... it’s sad.

[@VMRVid]

That's true. Lori Laughlin wanted her kids to have the "college experience" but didn't care enough to make sure they were eligible to get in lol

[@ebl_]

Victoria Whitlock The oldest daughter, Isabella got in Arizona State, but the parents didn’t want her to go.

[@ashleyt4987]

I just found your channel and your videos are so great! You’re so well spoken and so intelligent! It’s no surprise that you graduated from Harvard. Keep making content, your videos are amazing! I study history in Canada and I’m a middle class white women in university and I feel like I’m learning so much about culture and appropriation. I’m learning so much! You’re videos are so amazing.

[@izzywizzyfromthefiz]

I love your channel! So well spoken.

[@jenlunceford]

Girl, u got a new subscriber. Black woman who went to Yale here. U took the words outta my mouth

[@writerspen010]

This is my first video of yours. Instantly subscribed. I like you. And yeah, I wasn't surprised this was going on either. I've heard cases exactly like this one happening ever since I started prepping for college a little over 10 years ago. Maybe the amount of money that went into those stories wasn't this big, but it's literally nothing new; these and similar methods have been going on for decades. I'm only surprised that that people are surprised and that the FBI cared enough to do a sting on it. I also was not surprised someone as wholesome as Lori Loughlin was involved. People are not their characters, and I guess I just have no expectations for wealthy people, and I went to school with plenty of them. I was surrounded at my university by people who appeared to have every financial and educational advantage, but there were always some who either didn't seem like they wanted to be there or you wondered how they got in. And that's probably everywhere to a certain extent, not just at top universities, but it doesn't do anything to nullify the idea that college applications and the system are scams and a game of numbers.

[@adriannaz7954]

Part of the reason rich white people care about college so much is that it’s a status symbol, like a country club. In the early 1900s rich parents didn’t send their daughters to college for degrees; they wanted them to find “suitable” husbands, never mind if your parents would allow you to pursue a chemistry career in the first place or if the journals would even publish your work. Only recently have upper-middle class white parents realized that there is no shame in attending a community college first and then moving up to a 4 yr institution. It was borderline shameful-even worse if you were studying a trade field (while your parents have MAs).

[@mermaidtingzzz]

Came in giving this a like! Not even pressed about the commercial playing bc I KNOW your about to go in lololol!

[@xochitllamora4756]

As a someone that did not go to Harvard, this is no surprise either. I half chalked it up to cynicism but I'm somehow happy it's out in the open now

[@kenyaw5752]

My husband went to Choate and I went to boarding school. So, yep... I agree...

[@brabea23]

This is a violent crime as this is affecting other students futures. That is violence.

[@Belihoney]

UK is really similar. I'm not sure how the admissions are done over here but Russel group kids are heavily sckewed towards private school and grammar school kids who then go on to be overrepresented in places like canary wharf, government (majority of our prime ministers went to Oxford) and more. I'll never forget at our opening day at our school (I went to an upper middle class white school), there was a huge map that was had the radius of the catchment area. Tell me how the "circle" covered so much more of another area where it went into what we called the "rich exit"( because the people who went home that way had to walk past golf courses) even though it was a 20 minute bus drive away I didn't make it in lol I only made it in because 1) I was in care 2) I had exceptional drawing ability for my age at the time so I got shifted straight into the gifted and talented.

[@DorisClay]

I am 100% the same, I minimize my scientific background and degrees because I saw first hand how many mediocre people got ahead due to access, and I worked with a few amazing people who didn't try to make themselves out to be geniuses but instead told us what to study to know just as much as they do. Anyone who tries can learn sophisticated information, most smart people aren't geniuses they just make an effort.

[@melani1702]

It seems like it's a rumor that everyone knew about bout no one knew for sure until now. In Mexico happens all the time in public college. If you have someone really close to the admissions office, or you're a child or familiar to one of the head admissions, you're already in. Even if you had really low grades

[@Dee-ue2ib]

Shout out to Oklahoma! So great seeing successful people, like you, from Oklahoma on here and doing critical and much-needed analysis. New subscriber and big fan, even more excited to see you're from OK, thanks for your work!

[@rust44]

*Attends Harvard, says she's "not that smart." Girl no need to be modest lol.

[@_dukeluke]

I only just found your channel and I love how articulate and clear you are. This video was super eye-opening and so so true.

[@Three_Diamonds]

It's not as rewarding when you cheat & pay for it. I'd rather earn.

[@koriribarsosio4174]

This truth

[@RevengeOfThaNerd]

That's one reason why we as black people don't control anything. We have been taught this "earn and work for it" mentality. All the while...

[@Three_Diamonds]

@@RevengeOfThaNerd Welp, that's White Privilege for ya.

[@RevengeOfThaNerd]

@@Three_Diamonds Right.

[@Wifeyedition]

Courtney Cobain good for you ... I doubt that a majority of America would not cheat if given the opportunity because y’all reward cardi b

[@lovehatetragedy823]

You bring up such a VALID point. I watch Killer Mike and Joe Budden, and other black celebrities constantly discourage college. What they fail to realize is they are the lucky minority to have succeeded in careers where it wasn't needed. I am a 36 year old woman in corporate America without a degree, and the STRUGGLE IS REAL. I am trapped in my current position with little or no chance of advancement. Every job I am qualified for demands you to have a 4 year degree. I'm glad someone is speaking the truth to the younger generation. A 4 year degree IS the new high school diploma. Don't sell yourself short thinking otherwise!

[@catherineporras6251]

I appreciate this amazing strong woman sooo much, I watched a few of her videos recently. As a first time viewer and i'm just so impressed by how she carries herself. She's so intelligent but remains relatable.

[@csl6018]

Because it will be important for the parents' status where the kids go to school and what they can tell their rich friends.

[@denisesalt9729]

I just assumed it was always this way. I worked for a top Corporate Law Firm and secretaries talk. Oh well, another great American tale.

[@ActuallyDoubleGuitars]

Thankfully this doesn't happen in my country (well you can never say never) but the government funds our colleges no outside money and everyone goes through a system where they are assigned a number so when someone is correcting your standardised test they only see a number and all the test are sent around to different parts of the country for correction. Some courses need interview but if you fail the test it doesn't matter if you passed the interview. Some concessions for minorities (Traveller community in Ireland) and over 23 years old students. It's fair in the way everyone has the same chance but also the test is not the most suitable for everyone's needs so I would prefer continual assessment over one test that decides everything, with 7 different subjects you have to pass but I do think the fact you can't just buy your way into college makes are system very fair.

[@ilovenikkij]

Question... So is it still illegal to donate money to the school for acceptance? Cause i thought that was a known thing?

[@chioma2577]

"Education perpetuates inequality." Sis, now *this* is the tea. It's especially prevalent in the arts and culture industries, especially museum fields, where a PhD has become the new masters and you're underpaid for your entire career. Where does it end?

[@talitam.8414]

Education “perpetuates inequalities.” You open my mind to a whooole new paradigm 🤔

[@Merrybandoruffians]

I think you’re missing a key component here: Only minorities value Ivy League schools for their educational value. For wealthy whites, attending an Ivy League is like having a debutant ball or a family crest - it’s a way to signal your place in the social hierarchy. These parents didn’t help their kids cheat their way into these schools so that they can have “opportunities” a “good education” or a “better life.” And It doesn’t matter that their kids are set for life without a degree. It’s about consolidating power and making sure the “right” people stay in the “right” places. If their kids don’t go to these schools, that opens up another opportunity for someone like you. If too many people like you get opportunities in life, they will lose their power and place at the top of the social hierarchy - Because obviously, on an equal playing field, their kids do not have the intelligence or drive to beat out someone like you in a competition for power. So they do whatever it takes to make sure to keep the gates to opportunity closed. In the past, this system was easier to maintain through things like segregation and other structural forms of discrimination, but society has become increasingly democratic in recent years. Thus, Desperate times call for desperate measures...

[@dayyvalentine4708]

Talking about the privilege and advantage that Kylie Jenner has, and her being titled “self made”

[@meditationzone4599]

I really enjoy your storytelling of this college bribery scandal as a Harvard graduate. Cause I'm from Asia and didn't know how the system works here.

[@mostly-posting-comments1515]

New subscriber straight from the Financial Diet talk!