Who's the MOST Evil Arkham Character? (Not Joker)

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@GameDenColor
@GameDenColor 6 ай бұрын
AS PREDICTED... I forgot at least one character. Anarky should be ranked in the "Oh... uh... um..." tier before Deathstroke (Origins) but after Bane (Asylum/City).
@juanmancilla1474
@juanmancilla1474 6 ай бұрын
What did he do in Arkham Origins because I haven't played that game but seen the gameplays
@chrisrmstud
@chrisrmstud 6 ай бұрын
​@@juanmancilla1474He set up bombs all over old Gotham. Then he lets Batman decide whether they should go off or not. Otherwise beating up and harassing people. The fact he targeted corporate buildings when they are abandoned d/t a blizzard makes him a little better.
@KicktheSky34
@KicktheSky34 6 ай бұрын
I think there's a need for a "Has a Point, but kind of an Asshole" category.
@RichardDuryea
@RichardDuryea 5 ай бұрын
Yeah, I watched this whole video waiting for anarchy. In origins he has a bunch of bombs spread across the city so I would probably put him in scumbag.
@notaspider4084
@notaspider4084 4 ай бұрын
anarky did absolutely nothing wrong and him being any higher than misguided would be stupid
@Gojayvenom
@Gojayvenom 6 ай бұрын
Riddler should be in Evil for letting us to 241 trophies just to complete his side mission Edit: How did I get 912 likes that’s crazy💀
@Go_Kart_Man
@Go_Kart_Man 6 ай бұрын
*243
@funkybanana9999
@funkybanana9999 6 ай бұрын
It aint that bad
@Gojayvenom
@Gojayvenom 6 ай бұрын
@Eh......... I like the racing not the trophies
@Pelican07.23
@Pelican07.23 6 ай бұрын
​@Eh......... every open world has the same generic trophies and side missions bs. People prefer sidquest that aren't mindless fluff.
@alexanderwheeler3943
@alexanderwheeler3943 6 ай бұрын
Between all 4 games all those trophies, and we only got to punch him in the face after the fourth game? Yeah....
@Tijjain
@Tijjain 6 ай бұрын
Robin (Tim Drake) has one more crime: that haircut
@aag2139
@aag2139 6 ай бұрын
imagine a tierlist of hairstyles lmao
@sandanpaddack8789
@sandanpaddack8789 5 ай бұрын
Don’t even look at Damian’s from Batman Ninja 🤮
@alexkunce2002
@alexkunce2002 3 ай бұрын
They robbed us. Have you seen Tim in the comics?
@sugondeez1708
@sugondeez1708 3 ай бұрын
Bro it's just a shaved head. Its a display of discipline and is unable to be exploited in battle unlike nightwing. The actual problem is that in knight he doesn't keep his fucking hood up so his secret identity is fucked 💀
@DefinitelyNotBruceWayne
@DefinitelyNotBruceWayne 3 ай бұрын
What hair?
@keegobricks9734
@keegobricks9734 6 ай бұрын
"5% of the supervillains commit 80% of the super-crimes"
@akira17_samurai
@akira17_samurai 6 ай бұрын
If ya ask ras Al ghul ain't evil misguided and corrupted yes
@northernheel2829
@northernheel2829 6 ай бұрын
​​@@akira17_samurai I guess Hitler is misguided and corrupted too. Evil is misguided and corrupt in most cases imo.
@Doctor_Straing_Strange
@Doctor_Straing_Strange 6 ай бұрын
B-tier villains are being done dirty smh
@misiupysiu-br6cg
@misiupysiu-br6cg 5 ай бұрын
@@akira17_samuraihe is evil. INCREDIBLY EVIL. Just because he went to the lazarus pit doesnt mean he didnt want to. Plus every villain is evil especially him
@aag2139
@aag2139 3 ай бұрын
Ra's literally wants to gen*c*de the world so only he and his chosen few can repopulate with him as their ruler. He is about as evil as they come.
@gimmeyourrights8292
@gimmeyourrights8292 6 ай бұрын
You can look at this list and just tell that DC has too many good villains to keep relying on the Joker.
@Latitz
@Latitz 5 ай бұрын
If they would make R-rated TV-series of Batman which takes inspiration of Arkham games would be so dope.
@MrNoIee
@MrNoIee 4 ай бұрын
​@@Latitz Gotham is kinda the show you're looking for, its first season or two focus more on the underworld and gangs of Gotham but it gets more of the "outlandish" villains later on. Not based on Arkham but still a good watch.
@Latitz
@Latitz 4 ай бұрын
@@MrNoIee Sorry, but no. Im not looking for series where Gordon beats Batmans rogues gallery before Batman is even Batman.
@mrmemes170
@mrmemes170 4 ай бұрын
nah the joker is the best
@gimmeyourrights8292
@gimmeyourrights8292 4 ай бұрын
@@mrmemes170 He's the one most pushed to the forefront but Scarecrow is better.
@edviza1935
@edviza1935 6 ай бұрын
You can’t forget though, the whole reason Grundy is the way he is, is that he was a serial killer. Bro’s definitely not innocent 😭
@thelittlemanfromthedraftbo6805
@thelittlemanfromthedraftbo6805 6 ай бұрын
You are right but does it really matter who he was before? Now he's an entirely different being who doesn't even remember his own name
@waltergaming817
@waltergaming817 6 ай бұрын
He wasn’t a serial killer, he was a gangster
@sptflcrw8583
@sptflcrw8583 6 ай бұрын
​@@waltergaming817?
@Kingsaxxy3872
@Kingsaxxy3872 6 ай бұрын
Pretty sure Grundy was more a gangster than serial killer, Arkham Grundy though seems to have been a circus freak instead of a criminal.
@scorpion6328
@scorpion6328 6 ай бұрын
@@waltergaming817 Yeah, that makes it so much better
@ozziedylan9903
@ozziedylan9903 6 ай бұрын
Arkhamverse is one of the best versions of The Batman Universe
@kingol4801
@kingol4801 5 ай бұрын
Yes. Especially after the inclusion of Suicide Squad Kills the Justice League
@TheArkham_Batman
@TheArkham_Batman 5 ай бұрын
​@@kingol4801💀
@dukeslytalker1192
@dukeslytalker1192 5 ай бұрын
​@@kingol4801LOL😂
@ConkerTS
@ConkerTS 5 ай бұрын
I agree. to me, the Arkham games did Batman much better than any of the movies did.
@NaughtyJuri
@NaughtyJuri 5 ай бұрын
@@kingol4801 Too soon
@z0mb055
@z0mb055 6 ай бұрын
Professor Pyg would be the one to yeet if you wanted to make the list interesting by not including the most evil of them. Even the games confirm this by having Joker say that Pyg is sicker than him and Harley on their honeymoon.
@Grotesque_denizen
@Grotesque_denizen 6 ай бұрын
Penguin should be in big nasty at least, he's so twisted, especially in City.
@Demonzico
@Demonzico 4 ай бұрын
Yeah bro he has those dead people in his tanks that one assassin as basically his slave and tortured people and did loads of horrors lol
@TheChosenMoose01
@TheChosenMoose01 3 ай бұрын
​@@DemonzicoNot to mention he froze an undercover cop's hand, and smashed it with a hammer. He is evil
@sugondeez1708
@sugondeez1708 3 ай бұрын
In his interview tapes, he laughs at Bruce Wayne's parents death and basically laughs whilst he talks about how the guy who took out his eye died on the road
@bramijdema759
@bramijdema759 6 ай бұрын
If I remember correctly, Firefly, Hugo Strange, Penguin, Riddler, Scarecrow and Simon Stagg all qualify as ‘Complete Monsters’ under TV Tropes guidelines.
@jackadams5406
@jackadams5406 6 ай бұрын
Riddler and firefly are they only ones who have mental issues. Firefly obsessed with fire since being burned alive and riddler just got extreme social disorders, OCD, ADHD and compulsive narcissism disorder. The rest are just fucked up and sadistic because they know what they sre doing is wrong they just don't care
@BigBoss-km9yz
@BigBoss-km9yz 6 ай бұрын
@@jackadams5406 By that logic Riddler does not count/ As long as their mental illness does not give them agency or issues perceiving morality then they are complete monsters. An example of isanity being preventing is Professor Pyg and Mad hatter who have very little grasp on reality
@omega6749
@omega6749 6 ай бұрын
Penguin got recently removed, because "he became too much of a joke in SS: KTJL". Another good reason to ignore that game as canon imo.
@omega6749
@omega6749 6 ай бұрын
Side note: Calender Man also qualifies as "Complete Monster"
@BigBoss-km9yz
@BigBoss-km9yz 6 ай бұрын
@@omega6749 i actually was the one who removed him. True
@DoritosJackd
@DoritosJackd 6 ай бұрын
Use to being Harley practically being a good guy now, I forget that she’s one of the worst in the Arkham series
@sicksadworld765
@sicksadworld765 5 ай бұрын
Her versions are super inconsistent lol. In btas she was a sympathetic, tragic villain, in the Arkam series she was a straight psychopath and now she’s a mix of her original version and Deadpool😭
@snnnaaaaaakeeeee4470
@snnnaaaaaakeeeee4470 5 ай бұрын
She is up there in the Arkham series but one of the worst? Maybe in terms of actions but she as a character does have more humanity to her.
@sicksadworld765
@sicksadworld765 5 ай бұрын
@@snnnaaaaaakeeeee4470 she’s much worse in the comics some versions of her are basically just a female Joker and way more sadistic
@SymbioteMaster4
@SymbioteMaster4 6 ай бұрын
The reason Batman isn’t concert about Grundy’s death is because Grundy’s is already dead. You can’t prevent something that has already happened. Also Grundy was a crime boss and came back to live to kill people so he is not an animal, he is a monster.
@smbd1234
@smbd1234 6 ай бұрын
Grundy also can't die
@SymbioteMaster4
@SymbioteMaster4 6 ай бұрын
@@smbd1234 Yeah doesn’t he just fall asleep?
@eramo607productions6
@eramo607productions6 5 ай бұрын
@@SymbioteMaster4He should’ve. I mean…he’s a zombie.
@bearpoop720
@bearpoop720 5 ай бұрын
I mean, I don't think batman has a no kill rule against insects and bugs, why would he have one against a zombie that should've died 2 centuries ago.
@FoxyGuyHere
@FoxyGuyHere 4 ай бұрын
@@smbd1234 Yeah, that's the real reason. Batman knows he can't kill him.
@Shane_saw667
@Shane_saw667 5 ай бұрын
Your voice has the smallest hint of sounding like riddler from Arkham knight and it’s giving me 98% completion flashbacks
@keegobricks9734
@keegobricks9734 6 ай бұрын
I feel like... Riddler was way more evil than he needed to be. I'm fine with him setting deadly traps and not caring about human life, but I feel like the arkham series was a bit over the top for a villain who's really more of a silver-age villain. Also sidenote; I never really quite got the change of heart Poison Ivy had. She wasn't the _most_ evil villain ever, but her sacrificing herself for the GCPD and a handful of criminals came so far out of left field.
@scottthesmartape9151
@scottthesmartape9151 6 ай бұрын
Man would have burnt all her salad supply
@staciegleva1025
@staciegleva1025 6 ай бұрын
We all can agree that riddler is the most annoying villan and that's what makes him great. The hostages make sense because he would use them to attract batman to prove his superiority
@eddiediaz5518
@eddiediaz5518 6 ай бұрын
I like to think Ivy sacrificed herself for the plants, not humanity, I’m sure if the fear toxin was around for too long it would’ve started affecting plant life as well
@Ayyothatsbrandogaming
@Ayyothatsbrandogaming 6 ай бұрын
Ivy did it because Cranes toxin would have destroyed Gotham’s plant life
@marcelosoares7148
@marcelosoares7148 6 ай бұрын
Riddler is a broken man because he always loses to Batman, so he always takes it to the extreme because he's super mentally ill, I think Arkham Knight gives some insights on that. For Poison Ivy, she did for the plants, not for the humans. Even the militia men say that if she had survived the battle, she would've turned on Batman the second she was powerful enough to strike and potentially destroying the whole city considering how powerful the plants Batman found were.
@The_Phantasm
@The_Phantasm 6 ай бұрын
I think Croc is ranked a bit too high on the list. Generally I think in the games they leaned a bit too much on Waylon being a giant monster that eats people you need to beat up and didn't really showcase his more sympathetic qualities.
@jaydimmick8554
@jaydimmick8554 6 ай бұрын
Yeah only game that did it was arkham knight with how he was abused on the blimp
@dikastederook6380
@dikastederook6380 5 ай бұрын
It's mostly because it's pretty hard to depict a cannibal sympathetically.
@Latitz
@Latitz 5 ай бұрын
Im surprised they even keep Croc alive and in imprisonment. I think he was so monstrous in games that in real life they would consider him as animal more than a man and just shoot him like rapid dog.
@The_Phantasm
@The_Phantasm 5 ай бұрын
@@Latitz Well, then I think it's probably for the best that you don't write Batman stories.
@thegrayone5666
@thegrayone5666 5 ай бұрын
​@@dikastederook6380 Fair. But this isn't a man eating a man as much as it a changed man. Absoutely he can be bexauee one can attempt to see past the obvious. Now, lore between characters in different media has a tendency to change I don't know much of what lead Croc where he was in Arkham. Could be something there where if only there was a better path. Or it could be very much like Cobblepot; geninuely unhinged and goes out of his way to get someone dead. No care for his own men either.
@empty_melodies
@empty_melodies 6 ай бұрын
I agree with the list with one exception. Mad Hatter should be at the top. I know it’s not _explicitly_ stated in Origins, but I’m like 99% sure “Alice” implies that Jarvis R-worded her in her words to Batman after saving her. Batman: Everything’s going to be alright” “Alice”: No. It’s not. No relief from being saved. Continues to cry. Mad Hatter is top tier *EVIL*
@AwesomeMooseSmile
@AwesomeMooseSmile 5 ай бұрын
Also, considering the tapes in city, I'm pretty sure that even if he does do that, he just kills them afterwards, because well.......... I mean pretty self explanatory, one of the most evil characters in the game
@ArthurMorgan1947Boss
@ArthurMorgan1947Boss 3 ай бұрын
Bro he is unbelievably horrible but there's no way that makes him worse than a guy like pyg or zsasz
@nategar412
@nategar412 6 ай бұрын
Ferris Boyle should've been at least Scumbag tier for his actions in Cold Cold Heart alone.
@Master-Z3RO
@Master-Z3RO 6 ай бұрын
He's basically batman's version of Simon krieger from spider man miles morales
@Ikacita
@Ikacita 6 ай бұрын
Harley and hear me out she literally eliminated multiple of police officers, pushed a doctor from a height in arkham city, Tried to stab batman in the DLC of Arkham city, In Arkham knight if you hear one of the tape recordings you can hear Henry make a joke about a death of a baby and Harley starts laughing really hard after he says that. Harley also captured Batman and tried to give him a slow death.
@sicksadworld765
@sicksadworld765 5 ай бұрын
She’s not really allat evil in btas tho. Idk about the other versions, sounds really f up
@themadtitan7603
@themadtitan7603 Ай бұрын
There's also what she does to Edward Burke in the "A Matter of Family" DLC audio tapes.
@fartmaster6977
@fartmaster6977 5 күн бұрын
yeah the arkham verses version makes her irredeemable even if she still has the old sympathetic harley still in her​@@sicksadworld765
@shikishinobi
@shikishinobi 6 ай бұрын
Zsasz can easily have his kills counted in the Arkham City model. They tally three hundred something and four. Out of favouritism, I want to put the Riddler higher. His death traps are designed intentionally to kill as there is literally no way through or out unless you have Batman’s equipment, and then you are cheating (according to Riddler). He is also big on torturing his victims. Arkham City saw them walking around for hours unable to stop, lest they explode and die. That is a lot worse than straight up killing. Survivors are going to need a lot of therapy after dealing with the Riddler.
@bearpoop720
@bearpoop720 5 ай бұрын
No they aren't, most of his targets were cops and the easiest people he could find. A cop isn't going to be crying his ass off after riddler.
@angelguardianpeace-lf6fl
@angelguardianpeace-lf6fl 6 ай бұрын
I heard one person complaining that Jason didn't do enough to try and destroy Batman but can we all remember that he's the commander of a military and was hired to do the stuff in that game by scarecrow who had his own agenda too
@juu4503
@juu4503 6 ай бұрын
According to the tapes he actually went out of his way to make a partnership with scarecrow
@angelguardianpeace-lf6fl
@angelguardianpeace-lf6fl 6 ай бұрын
@@juu4503 yea however scarecrow is shown until the very end to be a higher up than Jason with the militia so that's kinda invalid
@thebatman9309
@thebatman9309 6 ай бұрын
I’d say Harley Quinn was as evil as joker, she literally murdered a sick child with titan for joker and DR young’s experiments before the events of asylum, and she and joker eventually convinced Edward Burke (the kid’s dad) to commit suicide using laughing pills, just to take the amusement park he built for themselves, none of these villains are crazy enough for that kinda twisted act, the other villains have either remorse for certain others or are just arrogant and annoying sometimes, but not twisted to the core, like harley when she was with joker.
@themadtitan7603
@themadtitan7603 Ай бұрын
@thebatman9309 Yeah, Arkham Harley is probably not just a love-sick goon who commit crimes & some bad actions for Joker, but seems like a downright horrible person in her own right. She might've been more unstable before Joker manipulated her into joining him but it's jarring to think Origins' Harleen is the same person who goes on to be behind what happens to Edward Burke. SS:KTJL doesn't seem like it did anything to put on her on some redemptive path either or show there's good in her.
@anime-potato720
@anime-potato720 4 күн бұрын
She also helped torture Jason
@Tyrineal
@Tyrineal 6 ай бұрын
I do understand why Joker isn't on here, he would be number 1, dude blew up and killed a schoolhouse full of kids in this universe (It was mentioned in a Arkham Knight audio log) Definitely evil but one could argue it's an evil action on Batman's behalf as well as Jason only went after Joker as according the the log, Batman still didn't want to kill Joker after this believing he could still be saved
@cottony4dr
@cottony4dr 6 ай бұрын
It clearly says (NOT JOKER)
@Reperis_Art
@Reperis_Art 6 ай бұрын
@@cottony4dr And what did he say? "I do understand why Joker isn't on here"
@cottony4dr
@cottony4dr 6 ай бұрын
@@Reperis_Art it’s in the title
@Reperis_Art
@Reperis_Art 6 ай бұрын
@@cottony4dr Are you stupid?
@Reperis_Art
@Reperis_Art 6 ай бұрын
@@cottony4dr You are dumb
@Kitty255Again
@Kitty255Again 6 ай бұрын
Joker went insane, that's why he was the way he was, but in Arkham Asylum, an audio tape shows a doctor saying that Crane wasn't mentally ill, but straight up evil.
@themadtitan7603
@themadtitan7603 Ай бұрын
If that's the case, then I suppose he's alongside Calendar Man are the most evil of the series imo. Joker would be there too based on who was as a criminal as we don't know for definite how he got there but it seems like going crazy after a tragic incident(s) was the likely option.
@PLUTOXGOAT
@PLUTOXGOAT 6 ай бұрын
Boles is too low. Frank Boles helped Joker in Jasons torture. Hes in scumbag. And Jason hasn't really committed any crimes so id move him down a tier. Him being the same tier as Ivy, Bird, Freeze, just dosent sit right with me
@2gredvisions8560
@2gredvisions8560 6 ай бұрын
You do realize that Jason committed aiding and abetting a renowned criminal with enacting terrorism and bioterrorism upon a city, right? And he did this by retroactively commanding the assisting mercenary group (for which he founded) for said terrorism, and even willingly aided with manning and activating the main chemical weapon, the Cloudburst, during the incedent. He also had two accounts of kidnapping with Barbara Gordon and Nora Fries. EDIT: Apparently from Arkham Knight's files, it indicated that Jason was also the hooded smoking man at Pauli's Diner who released the fear toxin causing many of the customers to hallucinate and begin attacking one another. So in a sense, he also contributed in instigating mass murder 😅.
@PLUTOXGOAT
@PLUTOXGOAT 6 ай бұрын
​@@2gredvisions8560 You realise that's the Arkham knight. Not counted as Jason Todd, on this occasion. Look at the video, Jason Todd and Arkham Knight are used as two different characters in this instance. So I'm going by that. Your correct for Arkham knight, hence why he's in the 2nd highest tier, Jason Todd however needs to be lower as I say. The guy in the vid is ranking Jason Todd before he became Arkham knight aswell
@2gredvisions8560
@2gredvisions8560 6 ай бұрын
@@PLUTOXGOAT That is true. It's kinda weird that Game Den chose to separate Jason Todd from Arkham Knight when they're essentially the same character 😅. Same goes for separating Barbara Gordon from Oracle, XD. With that odd detail, I suppose you have a point in regards to Jason's (solo) ranking needing to be lowered a bit. EDIT: He also separated Poison Ivy three times via each Arkham game as well, lol.
@PLUTOXGOAT
@PLUTOXGOAT 6 ай бұрын
@@2gredvisions8560 Yeah lol The video ranked Jason Todd and Arkham knight separate so I went by that. Jason is hot headed of course but he's not a criminal and game den has ranked him in the same tier as criminals. You are correct with what you said on Arkham knight, so yeah he's up there. Edit: Yeah, weird doing poison Ivy separate, but I think maybe because it's easier to rank them from different games, cause she literally tried to kill Batman in Arkham asylum and take over Gotham a year before Arkham asylum took place (This is Mentioned in game dialogue by Batman) And then in Arkham knight she technically sacrificed herself saved the whole city, so it would be hard to rank her overall in that way💀🤣
@PLUTOXGOAT
@PLUTOXGOAT 6 ай бұрын
@@2gredvisions8560 I don't get doing oracle separate, but I get Jason Todd, cause technically it's two different personas
@vibes5805
@vibes5805 5 ай бұрын
This just makes me want to finally start playing the 4 Batman Arkham games I have sitting in my library
@WitchHunterSiegfried
@WitchHunterSiegfried 3 ай бұрын
11:38 IK you’re not covering the comics, but Officer Boles in those outright helps Joker keep Jason hidden so he can torture him.
@NotIn_Love
@NotIn_Love 6 ай бұрын
Pretty interesting list. I feel like the most accurate way to rank the villains on this list is not by basing their wickedness on their crimes but on their motivation. Undoubtedly Joker is the most evil character in the Arkham-Verse but I feel like characters such as Two-Face have been ranked too high on this list. Sure, he mainly cares about money and will put a bullet in anyone who stands in his way but his actions are based on his coin, meaning he has a 50/50 chance to let you go as opposed to characters like Black Mask. Characters like Ra's and Dr. Strange are also wicked but they still have a sense of justice and their goal is to better society through their own horrific methods (it can be argued that Strange only does things for his selfish reasons) which is why I wouldn't rank them that high. It will take too long to give my analysis on every character but personally I feel like Victor Zsasz is the most evil character on this entire list. Zsasz is literally obsessed with killing people and if you are his target, he won't stop until he gets that tally mark. Characters like the Riddler or Penguin are childsplay compared to how dark he is.
@keegobricks9734
@keegobricks9734 6 ай бұрын
Yeah I take some issue with the list too. There are people who are otherwise good but slip up and do things they shouldn't do, like the Fire Chief, the Warden, Det. Bullock. There are people who do bad things for good reasons, sorta, like Hugo and Ras, Victor Fries. Then you have people who do bad things but still have some structure and goal in mind, such as mobsters, Bane, Penguin, Roman Sionis, who largely stay out of the public's way. Then you have people who don't care if they hurt people to get what they want, like Riddler, Deathstroke, firefly. Then you have people who WANT to hurt people, that is their entire goal, like Pyg, Zsasz, Calendar man, Mad Hatter. Albeit, some of them are so mentally deranged it could be argued they aren't fully to blame, but still, they do what they do.
@NotIn_Love
@NotIn_Love 6 ай бұрын
@@keegobricks9734 Exactly. That is the criteria I would have used to rank the villains. If you rank them solely on their actions then by that logic Batman should have been one of the highest on the list since he beats up mentally disturbed individuals. Motivation is one of the most important aspects to differentiate good from evil.
@GrandSenseiDarreth
@GrandSenseiDarreth 6 ай бұрын
I think I do mostly agree but Strange is still a complete sicko. He tried to murder thousands and while most might have been criminals, plenty were political prisoners and chances are that only a handful of criminals in the city had ever killed anyone. He even had the plan to continue his killing spree if he succeeded in Arkham. Him and Ra’s completely deserve the top tier.
@Latitz
@Latitz 5 ай бұрын
I can't believe we still haven't gotten proper live action version of him like he is in this game where bodycount is all that matters to him. What i've seen him in Gotham, Birds Of Prey and Batman Begins he has been more of a henchmman/assassin than serial killer.
@ConkerTS
@ConkerTS 5 ай бұрын
You make some good points, but I wonder about Zsasz being evil. His actions are certainly evil, beyond question, but he claims to believe that by killing people he is setting them free from the pain of their existence, and that he is doing good for them. So perhaps in his own utterly insane way, his morality is good, though of course his actions are hideously evil. That said, though, Zsasz does seem to take pleasure in killing his victims, and seems to boast about killing them (especially in the comics), which does make it seem like it's the act of killing that he cares about, and not so much about freeing people from their painful and unhappy lives, so perhaps his "I kill people to save them from their pain" is just a lie, either that he tells himself, or that he tells the doctors in the hope that they will think that he is insane rather than evil. Certainly we never see Zsasz do or say anything that might hint that he does actually care about anyone, be they his intended victims or anyone else.
@mediamanjamessmith251
@mediamanjamessmith251 6 ай бұрын
Game Den: “Poison Ivy, the first of many characters appearing multiple times…” Did you forget Barbara is in “Downright Flawless” twice?
@luksterr1997
@luksterr1997 6 ай бұрын
Honestly the only 2 things I would change: 1.make zsasz the biggest evil. He might not have killed as many as others like scarecrow but he literally kills people just to cut himself bc their lives are meaningless. That plus him finding pleasure in it. Scarecrow at least tries to attack Batman through others for the most part. Zsasz just kills to kill. And 2. I would switch calender man and croc. Calender man premeditated every single one of his kills to every holiday. He doesn’t care, once a holiday hits he will kill just to kill. I would move croc one lower bc of the reason you gave for man bat and Grundy. Grundy and man bat really have no idea what they’re doing. Their mind isn’t in control. That’s similar to croc. He still has his mind but as time went on (from origins to knight) he went from just a villain to basically a talking crocodile. He’s slowly losing his mind and is losing control of his body
@snnnaaaaaakeeeee4470
@snnnaaaaaakeeeee4470 5 ай бұрын
You omitted that Zsasz has a tragic backstory. He is very evil don't get me wrong but you are leaving out the fact that unlike many other villains he actually had a backstory behind why he is the way he is. Calender Man is far worse than him and has a higher kill count, but without any tragedy that made him the way he is.
@thegrayone5666
@thegrayone5666 5 ай бұрын
​@@snnnaaaaaakeeeee4470 I'd be curious if that backstory puts anything in prospective. It's going to be really hard to give that one anything. He kills because lives are meaningless. Anyone else doesn't matter. By taking life he shows he matters and adds the tally. No reasoning beyond that. It isn't running a criminal empire. It isn't a hit and a job. It is purely for himself. I am curious what could possibly drive someone to that.
@snnnaaaaaakeeeee4470
@snnnaaaaaakeeeee4470 5 ай бұрын
@thegrayone5666 His parents died when he was young, he lost all of his money to the Penguin which led him to becoming homeless, and then had to kill another homeless man who threatened to give him money. It absolutely does not excuse what Zsasz does and he's still evil, but it gives him more of a reason than a lot of other villains in the Arkham series and explains how his lack of value for life started. I will agree that the version of him in the comics is pure evil and one of the worst though.
@themadtitan7603
@themadtitan7603 Ай бұрын
​@@snnnaaaaaakeeeee4470 As I recall, his comics version has the same backstory. Or do you state that he's pure evil because his motivations are different i.e.; not believing he's setting people free but just enjoying death?
@neroseether838
@neroseether838 6 ай бұрын
Should have put that narc in the beginning of arkham knight at the top of evil. He was truly a menace to Gotham
@ozziedylan9903
@ozziedylan9903 6 ай бұрын
Arkham Knight was the first M Rated Batman Game one day I want a Live Action Rated R Batman Film that releases in movie theaters
@ИванСырникбоевич
@ИванСырникбоевич 6 ай бұрын
Isn’t Batman 2022 r rated?
@denisnevsky3734
@denisnevsky3734 6 ай бұрын
It was announced it was going to be, but it ended up getting a PG-13 instead. ​@@ИванСырникбоевич
@ozziedylan9903
@ozziedylan9903 6 ай бұрын
@@ИванСырникбоевич Not officially in The UK it was Rated 15 some direct to DVD animated Batman films has been R Rated but never a Live Action theatrically released film with Batman in the title
@snnnaaaaaakeeeee4470
@snnnaaaaaakeeeee4470 5 ай бұрын
​@@ИванСырникбоевичNo. It's PG-13
@snnnaaaaaakeeeee4470
@snnnaaaaaakeeeee4470 5 ай бұрын
​@@ozziedylan9903The UK does not have an R rating lmao. Your equivalent is 15/18.
@Alex-vy1wm
@Alex-vy1wm 4 ай бұрын
Only thing I would need to change is Calender Man HAS to be at the very top tier. Premeditated murder, stalking, zero remorse, tells the stories as if he’s proud of them. He chopped his father into pieces for fish bait. Stalked a woman and then forced him onto her and when she protested he just killed her. Dude was a literal monster and it was just as bad trying to envision that stuff.
@themadtitan7603
@themadtitan7603 Ай бұрын
Yeah, I think I've just come to conclusion that he's the most evil character in the series alongside Joker. Even more than a Zsasz, he doesn't believe he's doing it for a greater purpose or to help people in a twisted way, just because he wants to. As far as we see.
@SvanEsch123
@SvanEsch123 4 ай бұрын
I feel like the scumbag tier should be moved to just above misguided and include the gang members like Bird, Hammer and Sickle and Ricky. They are mere lackeys but definitely not misguided. The scumbag tier could then be divided over the previous and next tier, because most of the scumbag characters are def worse than Ricky lmao. I would put Man-Bat, Francine, Anarky and Grundy in misguided. I feel like they did enough damage to not be considered sweet, but having a bit more guidance would have led to them making different choices. Other than that, I think I agree with all of these rankings. You made fair enough arguments for your choices.
@konarkaron7139
@konarkaron7139 5 ай бұрын
Glad you put Harley at evil, and not misguided or influenced or something like evil only because of Joker. Just remember guys, the Arkham Knight Batgirl DLC, and what we learned about in the backstory of the amusement park, what she did to the owner and his daughter. That's the worst I can think of, but there's plenty more. And they tried to make a character like that likeable in the Suicide Squad game. Bunch of brats.
@WitchesRfun
@WitchesRfun 5 ай бұрын
Characters who are fucked up can still be likable there are many down right despicable characters who are likeable . For example: the originals family from the tvdu, esdeath from akame ga kill, loki from marvel, harley quinn from dc, mystique and magneto from marvel just to name a few.
@bearpoop720
@bearpoop720 5 ай бұрын
They made Walter White and Saul Goodman likable, it's not impossible. That game is still garbage though.
@pixsal3286
@pixsal3286 6 ай бұрын
Write a suicide squad game with slade Prometheus and a few other unique arkham characters. Your choice of character ofcourse. Within the Arkhamverse
@lordgameboy1303
@lordgameboy1303 6 ай бұрын
It’d honestly be interesting if we got a Suicide squad game in the Arkham verse…..oh well, we probably won’t get that for a while😅
@pixsal3286
@pixsal3286 6 ай бұрын
True
@TheSoldier1984
@TheSoldier1984 6 ай бұрын
My task force X: Prometheus Lady shiva Slade Copperhead Deadshot (THE REAL ONE) Rick Flag
@TheBombasticFatRat
@TheBombasticFatRat 6 ай бұрын
​set Prometheus and Slade a little redundant
@TheSoldier1984
@TheSoldier1984 6 ай бұрын
@@TheBombasticFatRat wdym by that
@PepsiMan-xx4sv
@PepsiMan-xx4sv 3 ай бұрын
The fact that riddler isn’t the most evil after making you solve ALL his riddles to finally smash his face in
@sandanpaddack8789
@sandanpaddack8789 5 ай бұрын
I mean yeah Harley and Scarecrow did some pretty messed up stuff but Pyg takes the cake giving all those Doll-O-Trons a date worse than death like just go look at them in the jail cell and you’ll know. Even the backstory we got from solving the riddle about him shows how messed up he is
@bydlakbolszewik847
@bydlakbolszewik847 6 ай бұрын
We're getting out of the aslume with this one🔥🔥🔥🗣️🗣️
@comicfan1324
@comicfan1324 6 ай бұрын
8:49 You know, if the death scenes in Arkham origins are to be believed, that sensei is also insanely xenophobic. so I’m sure he’s not a pleasant guy even outside of the whole “ninja assassin training” thing.
@ethaniel2cool
@ethaniel2cool 2 ай бұрын
The more I listen to his voice the more it reminds me of the riddler
@joebin3106
@joebin3106 6 ай бұрын
Officer balls is the most naughty
@Tservator
@Tservator 5 ай бұрын
9:35 A victim of circumstance?? Freeze had psycopathic tendencies from childhood... He stole peoples pets and killed them in his pursuit to cryogenic freeze some living organism. In his pursuit of saving Nora he, instead of trying again lawfully, went on a massive crime spree with countless dead people and countless limbs lost to him
@BreadGuy.
@BreadGuy. Ай бұрын
7:25 “Certified ℬ𝒶𝒹𝒹𝒾🔥”
@MatthewDoel32
@MatthewDoel32 Ай бұрын
I think Penguin’s penchant for collecting living human beings and putting them on display in a museum doesn’t get talked about enough.
@Xehanort10
@Xehanort10 6 ай бұрын
20:38 Pyg makes Joker look tame.
@Latitz
@Latitz 5 ай бұрын
Even thou Joker is not included in this list i think his ugliest sides were shown in Arkham Knight when they showed flashbacks of him torturing Jason Todd, shooting Barbara through spine and list goes on. It is also strange that Arkham Knight is the only game of the series that got PG-18 rating in my country while other Batman Arkham games got PG-16.
@ConkerTS
@ConkerTS 5 ай бұрын
And when Joker says that he did a baptism with acid. That is really, really messed up.
@adelgado7306
@adelgado7306 5 ай бұрын
croc should've been on misguided tbf
@kadyjerry
@kadyjerry Ай бұрын
it is really interesting seeing how people rank the Riddler. Despite the fact that he probably has done the least amount of damage (in terms of the bigger villains at least) there is just something about the way he IS that makes other people despise him enough to look past that.
@joeker5208
@joeker5208 6 ай бұрын
Pretty sure the green guy who was a multiversal threat is easily number one
@BoozyArt
@BoozyArt 5 ай бұрын
It's almost as if he said he only counts the 4 main batman games and not suicide squad
@BoozyArt
@BoozyArt 5 ай бұрын
Bros brain cells 📉📉📉📉📉
@djb9267
@djb9267 6 ай бұрын
Braniac and scarecrow would easily take the number one and two spots.
@DefinitelyNotBruceWayne
@DefinitelyNotBruceWayne 5 ай бұрын
Brainiac? Don’t know who you’re talking about
@djb9267
@djb9267 5 ай бұрын
@@DefinitelyNotBruceWayne He is an alien that is described as the biggest threat that earth has ever seen. He took control of the entire justice league and nearly took over the planet. That is way better than anything the other villains have done
@DefinitelyNotBruceWayne
@DefinitelyNotBruceWayne 5 ай бұрын
@@djb9267 i was just playing, i know who he is, i'm talking about the Arkham series cause he doesn't exist
@djb9267
@djb9267 5 ай бұрын
@@DefinitelyNotBruceWayne Suicide squad kill the justice league is a game that is Set in the arkhamverse. The game is canon to it
@DefinitelyNotBruceWayne
@DefinitelyNotBruceWayne 5 ай бұрын
@@djb9267 bro, it's a joke
@koleszgdanska7149
@koleszgdanska7149 6 ай бұрын
Arkham version of HQ is one of the most evil versions lmao
@illuminatidad
@illuminatidad 6 ай бұрын
would put killer croc a little lower on the list, but you forgot anarchy
@mikewazaski8597
@mikewazaski8597 6 ай бұрын
He’s back, wooooo, also can you do a side missions video for Batman:Arkham unleashed?
@undyne1
@undyne1 6 ай бұрын
I think Mad Hatter should've been at the very top. He's sickening. I also think some characters like Two-Face and Riddler were ranked too high. They should've been ranked by their morals or motivations, not just action.
@AedynLane
@AedynLane 5 ай бұрын
I think you forgot Anarchy
@DefinitelyNotBruceWayne
@DefinitelyNotBruceWayne 5 ай бұрын
The disrespect for my boy is crazy
@kotwczapce1742
@kotwczapce1742 5 ай бұрын
can't say i blame him, dude was so stupid it was funny and annoying, i just left cause i couldn't listen to more of his nonsense yapping after capturing him
@sugondeez1708
@sugondeez1708 3 ай бұрын
​@@kotwczapce1742bro some of the shit he says hits deep
@adamH.1
@adamH.1 4 ай бұрын
Poison ivy: wants to enslave humanity and take over earth using plants "Lil' nasty it is"
@ShadowlessZen
@ShadowlessZen 6 ай бұрын
Pygg and it ain’t a debate
@crazydud3380
@crazydud3380 6 ай бұрын
Scarecrow as wannabe Freddy Krueger? Kind of yeah, just replace Freddy's almost sexual satisfaction with Scarecrow's heartless intellectual/philosophical satisfaction.
@Agathos-1
@Agathos-1 2 ай бұрын
Would be dope to see a video on easter egg characters that are mentioned throughout all Arkham games in this list
@superherochestsymbol1032
@superherochestsymbol1032 5 ай бұрын
Your “uh’s” at the end of almost every sentence is strong lol
@gabrielnotgabriel9572
@gabrielnotgabriel9572 Ай бұрын
I’m pretty sure Raymond under hill is the definition of “Misguided”
@mistydolphin2524
@mistydolphin2524 4 ай бұрын
"Freddy Krueger wannabe". Its funny because he actually was voiced by Robert Englund in Injustice 2. Lol
@redrasegarden
@redrasegarden 5 ай бұрын
I wish to speak in defense of Arron cash because I don’t believe you have read the comics (the Arkham comics specifically…though if you have, I apologize) cash may be tough, but he has to be considering the job he has, the town he’s in, and the universe his world resides ( it’s still a dc world and Gotham is as prone to every strange event that happens) cash guarded the civilians rescued in Arkham city and for the record, he was against it as well believing small time criminals and regular adicts being thrown in with the real monsters knowing the danger they’d face and what they would need to do to survive. And yes, I can believe crock ate his hand for no reason. I pity crock but by the time we see him he’s embarrassed his monster persona.
@SnowyWolborg
@SnowyWolborg 3 ай бұрын
I actually came here to say this exact same thing. In a place like Arkham Asylum, you can't treat it like a normal prison. You just can't. Croc would kill someone just for looking at him the wrong way, so it's not unreasonable to think that he would maim a security guard who had the balls to stand up to him. I know this is a completely different continuity, but if we want to talk about abusive prison guards, then the character Lockdown from Batman TAS is a prime example.
@redrasegarden
@redrasegarden 3 ай бұрын
@@SnowyWolborg so glad it’s not just me.
@OnMyChillz247
@OnMyChillz247 6 ай бұрын
Unrelated but I wanna say about 9 mins in I noticed the background music and it was bring me so much nostalgia and I couldn't figure out where I recognized the music from then it finally hit me that it's from Jak 2 😂 11 yr old me use to love that game so much. Once I'm done this video I gotta go dig that game up and take well needed trip down memory lane it's probably been close to 20 yrs since I lasted played it.
@beastrobro6367
@beastrobro6367 5 күн бұрын
I know I'm late to this video, but love the jak 2 background soundtrack!
@Vibrioidimp7
@Vibrioidimp7 3 ай бұрын
As a Jak and Daxter fan, I approve of the choice in background music
@RocketMan21-vp9ie
@RocketMan21-vp9ie Ай бұрын
Calendar man killed his dad and used his corpse as fish bait. Harley helped Joker blow up a bus of kids at some point in the Arkham comics I think too.
@connordougherty9860
@connordougherty9860 4 ай бұрын
Imagine being such a monster you’re excluding from a villain ranking strictly for being too extremely wicked shockingly evil and vile.
@nitsuareldas1386
@nitsuareldas1386 Ай бұрын
I think Scarecrow is worse cause he’s not insane like the Joker.
@brendanbowman8865
@brendanbowman8865 6 ай бұрын
Awesome video.
@a1d3nbr3v
@a1d3nbr3v 4 ай бұрын
gordon in origins was a bastard, refused to give batman the code to the fire doors and could've got hostages killed by refusing to listen to batmans warnings. after taking down the joker, bane and restoring all peace in blackgate, he still tries to arrest Batman. Insane.
@asus14oled
@asus14oled 5 ай бұрын
"Franklin Balls" The way he said it 😂
@meleeludens
@meleeludens 3 ай бұрын
haven city theme omg???? AWESOME VID
@brandonashby6206
@brandonashby6206 3 ай бұрын
I heard my name and went, "what did I do?!".
@ambrose9821
@ambrose9821 2 ай бұрын
Simon stagg actually probably belongs higher up on the list if you look into some of the things he's done off screen in the Arkham verse
@facesofthechimera
@facesofthechimera 5 ай бұрын
Pretty much all the women in Lil Nasty shouldve been ranked higher, but OP's in love with drawings
@daleksec4636
@daleksec4636 5 ай бұрын
Penguin seems way too low for everything in his museum in City, alone.
@MrGeorgFTW
@MrGeorgFTW 2 ай бұрын
5:55 the fact that they are medical patients not prisoners makes it worse. Arkham would not pass any patient care inspections.
@deathby1808
@deathby1808 4 ай бұрын
Every Villain Is Lemons
@afrozabegum3170
@afrozabegum3170 3 ай бұрын
Bro if this was based on comics, riddler would be in top tier. I think everyone glosses over the fact that riddler gave joker the idea to do the killing joke
@Eivor85
@Eivor85 3 ай бұрын
The moment it said Joker wouldn't be in it I knew straight away that Scarcrow would be at the top
@SM-qd7po
@SM-qd7po Ай бұрын
I would most definitely put R'as 2nd or 3rd behind Scarecrow and maybe Harley. Protocol 10, essentially mass homicide of hundreds to thousands of people regardless of if they were killers is insane. Lotta the inmates were just regular crooks rather than violent criminals and there were alot of prisoners who were just political adversaries to Sharp and Strange. For that I would throw R'as and Strange over Harley who was just a follower of Joker.
@dragonalfaata
@dragonalfaata 6 ай бұрын
When you say arkham scumbags, I think penguin. Instantly. And Dent belongs in there too, although he's not as annoying as Oswald.
@darkySp
@darkySp 6 ай бұрын
My guess in the intro part is Scarecrow from Arkham Knight
@MKDani911
@MKDani911 4 ай бұрын
Cobblepot is the scariest of them all, he tortures random people for fun
@benhindman5403
@benhindman5403 4 ай бұрын
bro ranked a cop who snitched to be worse than poison ivy, who has a body count in the hundreds
@BurnemThorne
@BurnemThorne 2 ай бұрын
Vicky Vale for corrupting my save file In Arkham city
@spencerjohnston5969
@spencerjohnston5969 6 ай бұрын
I mean depending on if we count crazy, professor pig is wild
@RainePhoenix
@RainePhoenix 6 ай бұрын
Alfred was an innocent victim in Bane's scheme. True, he's connected to Batman, but he was innocent in terms of not being someone who directly stood in Bane's way.
@danielvocalmacias749
@danielvocalmacias749 4 ай бұрын
5:00 iam sure that in arkham city there is an wanted poster where says that grundy is wanted because off killing
@othergrimm6592
@othergrimm6592 5 ай бұрын
I predicted Zsasz would be near the top, glad to see I was right!
@Mercury29477
@Mercury29477 5 ай бұрын
i dont think tiny should be judged as it isnt sentient. Its just a shark and does what sharks do in nature.
@silverbuddyproductions6173
@silverbuddyproductions6173 2 ай бұрын
Have you ever considered doing a rewrite of Suicide Squad Kill the Justice League? Because that would be really cool.
@SolidArc91
@SolidArc91 5 ай бұрын
He never got his waffles
@nitsuareldas1386
@nitsuareldas1386 Ай бұрын
I’d say Scarecrow is more evil than the Joker cause unlike him he doesn’t suffer any mental illness or insanity, he’s just pure evil and gladly tortures and murders countless people with fear toxin for his sick curiosity and amusement (probably targeted children too) and as you said wanted to cover the entire east coast with the toxin.
@WhatInTheDeepestShadeOfFeck
@WhatInTheDeepestShadeOfFeck 4 ай бұрын
It's been suggested that Mad Hatter has abused children, so if he's not in the top tier, I have to wonder how anyone is...
@Tommedian
@Tommedian 5 ай бұрын
Scarecrow gassed an entire city with a hallucinogen just so he can prove Batman’s a coward
@zollof6699
@zollof6699 5 ай бұрын
Hilarious and accurate tier list.
@joeker5208
@joeker5208 6 ай бұрын
Wait. Are these ranked within the tiers themselves? Cause you said that Oracle is higher than her younger self. So that means Vicki is higher than Nightwing or Alfred?????
@GameDenColor
@GameDenColor 6 ай бұрын
The lower ranked you are the more good you are. Overall chart goes good (bottom) to top (evil). You are right, the tiers are ranked. Evil (Left) to Good (Right)
@ontoya1
@ontoya1 4 ай бұрын
I would switch Killer Croc with Calendar Man. Croc is a literal slave to animal instinct. The way Calendar kills is just.... No
@infinityrocks7360
@infinityrocks7360 3 ай бұрын
Harley Quinn over Professor Pyg is crazy. Especially after hearing those tapes
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