Honda Beat Teardown

[@BricksAndGlass]

I honestly want to see a performance beat motor build and revive the Honda beat. Maybe call it project Beat-Down.

[@GearsandGasoline]

Why not Beat-up?

[@punkly8423]

@@GearsandGasoline the beat-off

[@JJMMAN2002]

​@@punkly8423 bauahajahah

[@dokterkronik89]

​@@GearsandGasolineput honda fire blade engine.. still honda thou

[@BricksAndGlass]

@@GearsandGasoline So you can beat down some hot boi miatas

[@aaront4472]

Hayabusa engine swap coming soon 😁

[@tydontdy3459]

Pin it, cowards

[@kiwi_commander]

Haha that's what I was going to suggest

[@its_re4l]

JUST DO IT

[@mokujin6507]

Why no k20😂😂😂😂 Anyway.. i've seen pics of purple beat with b swap... 😮

[@refinachmadzaky6519]

it's gonna be 🔥🔥

[@Infinnatea]

"That's classic ring land failure! I know all about that, I have a Subaru!" Right in the feels

[@user-A-A-RON]

The zoom in when he mentions the high mileage engine oil is hilarious 😂😂

[@Jackal9405]

well someone has to pay the bills😂

[@BigAuf_]

The beat is such a cool and weird car anyway I don't see why you'd want to swap the engine for anything different. A built high compression version of the stock motor would be sick

[@frankgile1996]

Honestly, that sounds cooler than what I had in mind... Not sure if it makes the most sense financially though, since I'm guessing these Beat motors must be somewhat rare?

[@jonathancrincoli6263]

@@frankgile1996na man they are like $1000 before shipping so maybe all in $2500 for a longblock

[@joseacuna3239]

Looking at that engine, and knowing the reliability of Honda it’s hard to believe this wasn’t a bad rebuilt engine.

[@gibbyvanbeuren5124]

Im guessing the ring gap was set incorrectly, thats what a piston looks like after it pinches a ring from too tight of a gap Edit: you can also see at 13:18 he squeezes the rings and the ends are touching, not good!

[@joseacuna3239]

@@gibbyvanbeuren5124 yeah, I reckon the engine rebuilder wasn’t following manufacturer specs when slapping together this engine. I have seen engines from Honda Goldwing motorcycles which have a lot in common with more than 200k on the clock with no signs of wear.

[@JesseStreeter]

@@joseacuna3239 could be but the beat engines are known to have weak pistons and cant be run as is for enduro racing. If I had to guess this was just a stock engine and it did the usual beat piston failure. The combo for the e07a is JA4 today short motor with the Beat head.

[@joseacuna3239]

@@JesseStreeter I see you and I know you know a lot about these little guys so hopefully they read this comment since I didn’t knew about this.

[@wolfemancola]

It's hard to judge an entire brand for reliability when different people worked on different cars throughout the years at one company, like how most of Honda's cars are pretty reliable but the D17 Civic engines weren't great and didn't handle abuse very well and some of their auto transmissions from the late 90's in the Accords and minivans had common slipping issues

[@JaredR1996]

Nice to see the little Honda Beat back again

[@ApPrAiS3R]

Marks voiceover is fantastic, such a great addition to the team

[@Meaty97]

So glad you guys brought Mark on board for reals. He seems very knowledgeable and most things mechanical. But most importantly respectful to the Honda game. Which I am partial to and respect. So I respect you guys more and respect Mark too cause he drives an S2K

[@ryankassel5691]

Mark is absolutely killing it, he’s a star. Looking forward to more stuff from him

[@sambalzone94]

If you want the beat to be regular daily driver without crazy numbers under the hood, honda L series engine might be a good pick. Bulletproof 4 cylinder engine and super fuel efficient. The displacement is also pretty small. 1.2L SOHC i-vtec. Newer honda also has a larger variant which is a turbocharged 1.5L making more than double the power than the said 1.2L NA one.

[@jessebb193]

That’s what I was saying they are super compact even smaller than a b series

[@RyVyse]

Keep it Honda. CBR 600rr or CBR 1000rr motor. Both are light weight, compact, rev high and reliable. Plus the CBR 1000rr motor would have decent torque.

[@Pelleministeri]

Yes!

[@reptilez13]

These are awesome, but I like the S660 more even! Can't wait to see those imported. The AZ-1, Pajero Mini and S660 are my fav Kei Cars I think. Thanks for showing it!

[@knux1337]

I asbolutely LOVE this episode! And I love that the Beat is back! Can't wait to see more, woo :D

[@FernandoSosaIndustries]

Loving this series its great to see something new (at least for us in the USA). Also your new mechanic is fearless with a “new engine” but at the same time showing it respect to not damage it further 😅

[@johnsnake3467]

G and G videos are the best car videos on KZbin hands down. The entire team has such great chemistry. Luke’s editing skills are second to none.

[@richardkoo7869]

The music choices are tasty. BTW, I thought Luke left team to go to college.

[@DREWlanning]

Liter bike motor! I like the new show btw and mark is an excellent addition to the crew.

[@rasmusjensen8271]

A Kawasaki H2 engine would be nuts, easy 300+hp from the supercharged engine

[@Jackal9405]

that's waaay too much for the chassis.

[@rasmusjensen8271]

@@Jackal9405 pffftt flex tape will probably hold it haha

[@drunkbygreentea]

have fun in that deathtrap

[@GTSW1FT]

​@@Jackal9405well then do some mod to stiffen up the chassis.

[@Jackal9405]

@@GTSW1FT won't change the fact that thr chassis is too short, and the suspenssion is not designed for such loads. under 200 bhp is plenty for the beat. I'd say that 150 is enough to be honest . this car is around 700kg.

[@tylaskey]

You should consider L swapping it from a Honda Fit. Definitely a good power upgrade for such a light car or you could even supercharge it. Best part is that these engines would be insanely cheap so blowing them up wouldn’t matter. If I can’t convince you I’m sure Luke could.

[@LoudGuitar14]

There is even the option of the newer L series turbo engines that Honda is running in everything now too. The Si transmission for the L series have a LSD too

[@tylaskey]

@@LoudGuitar14 oh dam that's really cool! might have to keep an eye out for one as a spare for my jazz if the swap isnt too complicated. would keep it as a spare till my current engine blows lol

[@superunknown800]

The Beats engine is slanted to give lower centre of gravity better weight distribution and allow the longest intake manifold for as much torque as possible. Being older honda, engine spins anti clockwise and with fuel tank mounted above trans it makes it very difficult to do an engine swap without re-engineering the whole car.

[@Varitype]

I'd say put a k24 cut the top where the engine cover would sit and then just make a fiberglass box to cover it up 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@SilverScarletSpider]

thank you for not abandoning and salvaging your honda beat

[@kimmyrask7368]

Damn, a mechanic and a dream voice for voice overs!

[@marcoferreira3832]

All started with a blue Ford... Damn how far y'all got!!

[@tydontdy3459]

That clutch is ADORABLE

[@Levibetz]

Just a reminder that the 1st gen Insight had a 1.0l version of the E series engine with a 5 speed manual suitable for American roads 👀 It'd be a great shortblock with the Beat head and ITBs

[@feedingfrenzy123]

Refresh the original beat engine! They're an experience to drive stock and over here in the UK, a fair few have been imported over the years. They could be had for as low as £2-3k at one point and rust was a killer, so there should be parts about from across the pond. Looking forward to see what you do

[@yongling9825]

There's a noticeable divot on cylinder wall #1. If the gouging is too deep, it may not be worth it/possible to bore the cylinder walls.

[@Sarin-Q]

I've got a Honda Beat and my plan is to run nitrous through it until I eventually blow it up. After which, I'm considering a Honda Valkyrie 1.5L F6. Or, if that doesn't fit, a Yamaha MT-09 engine.

[@ryanbernard5287]

I want to see that if you put a flat 6 in there

[@nigelwals7448]

Imagine a d16 with a small turbo in it 😩

[@misaeltollenirizarry3342]

Yes, cheap thrills all day!!!

[@eydvlogs3541]

Yes!

[@_shreyash_anand]

Too big and too heavy for this car. Just turbo a Hayabusa engine

[@joaom3664]

​@@_shreyash_anandHayabusa engine is too high revving, you would need a big turbo.

[@danielhaynes1642]

​@@_shreyash_anandturbo d16s and even b swaps have been done in beats

[@joeschmoe5009]

Man, that stone cold valvoline plug, love it!

[@Danijamali1]

the best automotive youtube channel ever. Go Bens

[@WarriorsPhoto]

That’s one of my favorite little Honda cars of old. ❤ 7,000 RPM on the freeway 🛣️ wowzers! I guess in Japan 🇯🇵 that could work. Since it costs a bit to drive around for leisure. 😅 Excited for your Beat project. 🎉❤

[@the1blahinator]

I would love to see you guys do what I wanted to do to a Honda Acty. I was going to do a CBR600 swap but carry over all of the bikes accessories like the instrument cluster. It would have lead to a 150+ HP, sequential shifting, Kei truck with all the speed and carrying over the “it’s only 600cc” bragging rite.

[@jacobwebb8818]

I know you likely wont read this, but I would love a Honds Magna swapped Beat! A V4 Beat would be insane! With 4 extra foot pounds of torque and a MASSIVE 16 hp gain haha. Btw the main thing holding it back is ignition components if this route is considered. It would still be fairly rev happy and would have a massive amount of torque more if you consider the torque curve

[@Djgarey14]

As always amazing quality and a fun watch. Yall do great work

[@ramyeez7046]

this production quality is insane. good job bruh.

[@BurchellAtTheWharf]

5:14 custom Chrysler slant 6 baby, throw the leaning tower of power in there

[@exc911ence_channel]

A 13B would fit with room to spare. 😉

[@joaom3664]

Probably the coolest answer

[@ErikSeastead]

youre right, but it will also weigh nearly as much as an LS

[@chancekoehler7578]

It'd be interesting to see you guys do a Honda CBR1100EX Blackbird motor swap with the Honda Beat

[@clam8302]

they should put a Yamaha R1 parallel 4 engine into the Beat

[@paytonlee2896]

Agreed. Some sort of motorcycle engine, like an R1, H2, CBR1000RR. We run Triumph 675R engines in our FSAE car. So much power potential for the weight and they rev to the moon.

[@joaom3664]

​@@paytonlee2896motorcycle engines have no torque, will be a pain every time you want to get the car going

[@shekharbahuguna9475]

Although I love each and every content you guys put up hear for us to enjoy, I wish we had back to back Honda s2000 build videos. Just dont want to wait for 15 days for it 😅. Not a complain... Just a wish. ❤

[@Varitype]

That's why I don't keep following them religiously because sometimes they'll go weeks even months without an update so I won't hold my breath for this one

[@miketejero]

I’d just rebuild the same motor using better parts, and a few bolt-ons, Just to make it a reliable weekend warrior. Great video, can’t wait for the next episode.

[@FacadeGod]

The Honda Beat x Mark crossover episode we've all been waiting for!

[@dailydriven991]

Haha its awesome that flex seal fixed the axle leak. Also project Beat Down needs a cbr swap for sure.

[@zander4371]

I think a honda b 16b would be a great swap for honda Beat

[@eriksimca9409]

would be way to heavy, better to bike engine swap it

[@joaom3664]

​@@eriksimca9409bikes have no low end torque and rev too high for a small turbo. Something like a 1.0 tsi engine would be great, but i don't think theres any if those in the US

[@leonleber7059]

The fist gen honda insight used a 1 liter version of this engine. Love to see that fitted with the stock itb. If you do swap it. A 1 liter ecoboost would be nice

[@tuppytheducky]

Hayabusa or Rotary enginne swap would be great

[@vcdrny]

Do you play GT7?

[@tuppytheducky]

@@vcdrny nope

[@brianrobinson9979]

I think your going to need a much higher differential gear ratio to lower your rpm when cruising 😅👍

[@shawnwang2182]

i guess there would be torque issues then, unless he does a transmission swap as well. the thing's stock transmmition is a 5-speed, not much room to play with ratios

[@JoshNewby84]

Apologies in advance for being pedantic... Clearances & tolerances are completely different terms & I think you guys owe it to your viewers to use & explain the correct phrasing. Clearance is how big a gap there is. Tolerance is how much allowable error the manufacturer has specified. Your piston rings had a tight *clearance*. If they had a tight *tolerance*, all rings would have the exact same gap because there was little to no allowable error.

[@shannacollins4741]

K swapped Honda Beat rwd would be a awesome and hard car to build because of the space in the rear but would be a really cool option for the K car !

[@thirteen12]

We got some kind of early 2000s GAP commercial jazzy hip hop, disco, danny elfman-ass classical, and wrapping it up with some kind of Turkish house. The Gears and Gasoline music guy has done it again.

[@sssjjjttt]

I would contend that sitting @ 7k rpm is EXACTLY what that car was meant to do. IT'S IN THE FREAKING NAME. BEAT! You're SUPPOSED TO BEAT ON IT!

[@opcolu]

Maybe a little 900cc 3-cylinder from a Maverick X3? You keep the 3 cylinder character, and the 9000RPM redline, but get a modern engine with factory turbo support and 200+ HP!

[@levesquejp4964]

perfect car to get a cbr swap and its still honda and will be the most iconic beat you can find

[@olivercooney6645]

So excited for this I was hoping the moment it went pop this was going to go down

[@charltonbowers5905]

I wouldnt say the H series is inefficient.... the technology used was way ahead of its time and is actually way more capable than people give it credit for, once you build them right. Honestly in terms of budget it is the same perfomance as a K20 for far less.

[@One_LuvZ]

Though the issue comes from parts availability. We have a coworker with a prelude and conpared to his two other vehicles (Si and TSX) he can find parts for those readily easy.

[@charltonbowers5905]

@@One_LuvZ That is very true and I can't argue against the facts ..... That is the main issue with building an H22. However that being said I never said building a H22 was easier than a K series, because the K would be far easier with its large aftermarket support and mountain of information that could be found on forums. I was rather talking about stock for stock platforms and how the H22 in that regard would be right on par with a K20 for less money. Therefore saying it's an inefficient engine is not a correct statement.

[@One_LuvZ]

@charltonbowers5905 its funny because my cowowrker called it the big block of honda 4 cylinders back in the day.

[@jarrocabanes5226]

Keep it in the family! Fireblade engine!

[@danw1955]

I had a 1974 Honda 350-4 motorcycle that lived at 5000-7500 rpm all the time, and only finally failed due to an overstretched cam chain, years later. It was air-cooled, and in my younger days, the oil didn't really get changed regularly. So I doubt the high revs were what killed it. However, that ring gap was way too tight, just viewing it on screen, and I'd pretty much bet that it was rebuilt and never had the ring gaps set properly. The broken ring land is further evidence of that, since the ring land was constantly slamming into that tight ring to try to move it up and down the cylinder. I think the E07A deserves a proper rebuild, and maybe bore it to the first oversize if the cylinders will clean up at that point. I don't know if there are any performance parts available for these, but a good strong set of rods with some oil squirters directed to the underside of the pistons, might be in order, if you decide to try to turbo it in the future? I think that would wake that little 600cc engine quite nicely!😉

[@jordanmowday]

The focus pull at 2:21 was too clean 😩

[@nicholasgarson4247]

Shop is looking good Ben

[@joshwawells73]

As a prelude owner and H enthusiast. Calling H inefficient was truthful but still hurt.

[@nunorpedro]

C'mon!! B series for the Honda B...eat!! Make it more peppy and fun to drive! I'ts been done before, actually.

[@TheDeelunatic]

Great video. Good show of why a Kei car is not in my future due to the teardown requirement. maybe a Kei truck though since I could just lift the bed.

[@Slo_N_Low]

I want to see you make 120whp from a 0.6 turbo!

[@SuperZeze89]

in Indonesia, Honda Beat is a scooter with 110cc engine :D

[@Moviemaker360]

How about a Rotary swap since they are known to be quite compact?

[@dextergordon7510]

I’ve looked into it. There would be a issue finding a transmission. Unless you want to go full custom

[@blue_lancer_es]

6:29 why blur out david and show him in a next shot😅

[@graham8316]

Marks narration has that calming bobbross vibe

[@Linkedchief]

How about a CBR600RR motor? 599cc 4 banger goodness, still Honda, and makes like double the power with a way higher redline

[@ScootLanguage]

Marks voice is amazing on the studio mic

[@Lefever83]

Pretty cool to see a Honda motorcycle engine, installed

[@juliansaiz5714]

Gears and gasoline just spoiled the eBay surprise of having David P show up… they literally showed it in the intro lol

[@murdoch9106]

Busa swap! ..or some other Motorcycle engine, put a big 2 cylinder Harley engine in there and a turbo! So many options! ;)

[@Hybridesque]

Has to be a Honda bike engine, surely?

[@Pieteros21]

yamaha swap would be awensome , if not maybe rotary ? 1.3 from mazda rx8 is really small so may be possible

[@stuvademakaroner9607]

Rotaries are too troublesome

[@Pieteros21]

@@stuvademakaroner9607 if not drived hard ... on track use they are much better

[@hawaiian_judge5113]

BOOOOOOOOOSSSSSSSTT IT!

[@jamiehipperson]

Mark has a fantastic voice over voice!

[@jimludovici8427]

I have a Beat and ive done thousands of miles on highway at 6-7krpm. Sometimes for 6 or more hours at a time. No issues. I think your engine was already on its way out.

[@Jeffsa12]

This is a common result of detonation damage, that caused broken ring lands in the pistons. My guess is oil contamination of the combustion chambers caused by worn piston rings. Even a small amounts of crankcase oil contamination has a profound effect on reducing the octane of gasoline. Interesting little engine though. I'd rebuild it and look into implementing a tiny turbo for about 7-8 lbs boost. I think Honda even produced a turbo versions of a variant of this engine.

[@jacksonclark9826]

Looking forward to the updates! Remember 5000rpm!!!

[@hellfire08]

Hayabusa swap or zx14 swap 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

[@LMFAO5001]

I would love to see a honda fit L15 swap in this. It should be small enough to fit. Its 1.5 so it makes 100hp compared to ~50. 40mpg in a fit so probably 50mpg in a beat lol theyre super available and the 6 speed is good. L15 are very reliable and they like being revved and cruising on the highway. Technically they can be boosted to about 300hp....It would dope to see.

[@Jan-ny8hn]

Honda VFR750 V4 engine would be cool :)

[@hiljicardrawings3467]

this car is on the same platform as my honda acty, so i think that might be why the engine is so tilted. in my car the engine has to fit under the bed so maybe they tilted it to fit the acty and never moved it for the beat

[@Clayson000]

they do make oversized pistons for these motors, so it could be that you have modified pistons.

[@comerain2425]

my guess : crank case ventilation hose removed. less oil in combustion chamber made it dry. heat and ring gap leakage finally broken rings and piston. my Proton car engine is based on mitsubishi engine like all 'japanese' engine had similar issue like 10years ago because i put a filter on it... they need those extra oil entering the chamber to function well.

[@nerfeclipsisdraco8101]

Hey just a suggestion, don't really know the dimensions of it, but ford makes a 1.0L turbocharged engine. They come in Fiestas, so you could get a matching trans with it and it might fit. Either way, I think the coolest option would be to throw a high revving motorcycle engine in it

[@deejay_n_va]

Yooo , the first engine the other guy said was exactly what I was thinking before he said it

[@vadimck]

When do we get to see a shop tour? Would love to see inside G&G

[@samuelmartinez-p7b]

In my opinion, the best engine swap that you can do to these cars is to put a 3b21 on them, but if you already want to go crazy with the 3b21 there is a tuner in Greece called motor x and another in Italy called smart hard tuning, they get them out 324 horsepower to those engines, even using the smart 451 transmission but with a Torsen differential, in my opinion it would be the best option for the Honda Beat, because you still maintain a low weight and a good amount of power

[@hazoorule]

Should swap the new s660 turbocharged 3 cylinder motor in

[@candycornpeeps]

You guys should look into the ford dragon 3 cylinder found in the new base model Ford escape in the USA. That be an interesting not often done swap.

[@khawerozi5313]

Video quality was like watching a 4k movie 🎬 🎞 🎥 🎦

[@thomaspattison1397]

The music at the beginning of this video reminds me of the menu music from Juiced 2 HIN

[@curtismarshall6595]

What about a Honda sport bike motor?

[@rogansmith2855]

Could get the motor from the s660 with the gearbox and do that swap. Would be interesting to see.

[@nedyahyakcam]

Personally I would be dropping in a ford 1.0 ecoboost in. Compact. Way more power than the chassis can handle. If you sort the gearing out. You can cruise at highway speeds at reasonable rpm.

[@sylviacro6676]

Cool car, cool video, cool t-shirt!

[@alolanstarboy]

Like a lot of others I REALLY want to see a bike engine like a Honda CBR 4 cylinder motor go into this. Combining my interest in bikes and cars into one

[@Levibetz]

Okay here's an idea for what caused the failure. Sustained load caused the rings to get tight (slowly the rings butted), which then fractured the ringland, then later caused a harder butt on the cylinder that died with all of the oil ingested and such. I suspect the ring gap was correct for factory, but the sustained load just killed it.

[@9ZERO6]

Sustained load.

[@Levibetz]

@@9ZERO6 😎

[@9ZERO6]

@@Levibetz I know. I could not help myself.

[@mrjklee]

great video, loving the content

[@philclark1334]

I've driven my Kei car across the country sitting at 6.5-7k rpms for hours and it did fine 🤷