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Gen 2 Mustang 15-17 Coyote Oil Pump Gear Install and timing procedure *watch entire video*

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WATCH ENTIRE VIDEO BEFORE PERFORMING TIMING PROCEDURE!!!!!!
We Install oil pump gears into a 17 Mustang Coyote engine. We also go over timing procedure
Link to gen 1 pump gears install and timing procedure video
• Gen1 11-14 Coyote Oil ...
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@Cheezeball99999
@Cheezeball99999 2 ай бұрын
That drop test has 100% eased my worry about the factory oil pump gears in my mild boosted Gen 3. I'm running ProCharger's off-the-shelf tune and I grandpa the heck out of my car. It's never once seen the rev limiter, and I'm installing the crank support sometime in the next few months. Thank you.
@michaelblodgett4704
@michaelblodgett4704 4 жыл бұрын
I just finished my install. This video was a huge help. Thank you so much for taking the time to make it. That back pick up tube bolt is a S.O.B. to get to. I had to bend a wrench just like you did. I loosened the bolt a little and then tied some string to it so it couldn't fall into the oil pan. To put it back in I wrapped bailing wire (about 1.5 wrap) around the threads to hold it while I used my bent wrench to start it. I guess a magnet works too, but I didn't have one skinny enough.
@SpeedAddict731
@SpeedAddict731 4 жыл бұрын
Michael Blodgett glad this helped you!! The string and wire is a good idea! That bolt is the only real headache of the job IMO!
@ryanmerrill8879
@ryanmerrill8879 5 жыл бұрын
Gen 2 gears are not having the problem like the gen 1's. Great video. I'm so much less intimidate doing my own cams now.
@SpeedAddict731
@SpeedAddict731 5 жыл бұрын
Modular Fox Body Thank you! I agree about the gen 2 gears not seeming to have the problem as bad as gen 1’s did.
@darthmayxj
@darthmayxj 5 жыл бұрын
I don't usually comment on videos, but this was very helpful. I was telling my buddy that you guys missed spinning the engine over 1 turn before putting the right hand chain back on but you corrected that at the end of the video :) Good job and thanks for taking the time.
@SpeedAddict731
@SpeedAddict731 5 жыл бұрын
darthmayxj Thank you!
@Zachchickawack
@Zachchickawack Ай бұрын
Dude you are a lifesaver.
@tensixtythreevideo
@tensixtythreevideo Жыл бұрын
Man I appreciate the your videos. I trust the information coming from a ford technician. So helpful! Thank You!!!
@SpeedAddict731
@SpeedAddict731 Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@coyotecarguy2076
@coyotecarguy2076 5 жыл бұрын
Hey Ken. Great video!! I am surprised you are not getting more views. You would think the whole world would want to see this!
@SpeedAddict731
@SpeedAddict731 5 жыл бұрын
Coyote carguy thank you sir. Feel free to share it wherever you want 😜. I’m still growing.
@coyotecarguy2076
@coyotecarguy2076 5 жыл бұрын
@@SpeedAddict731 Yes Ken your channel is growing nicely. your doing a excellent job!
@SpeedAddict731
@SpeedAddict731 5 жыл бұрын
Coyote carguy thank you!
@jeremydover6058
@jeremydover6058 5 жыл бұрын
Ken for the win!
@SpeedAddict731
@SpeedAddict731 5 жыл бұрын
Jeremy Dover now we need to get it into the car 😎
@4eyefox
@4eyefox 5 жыл бұрын
Best video on the web for doing this. It's the most in depth. Great job definitely a video to save.
@SpeedAddict731
@SpeedAddict731 5 жыл бұрын
Nathan Smith Thank you!
@Boss302ATC
@Boss302ATC Жыл бұрын
Excellent video and description, makes understanding why you move the banks separately so easy. Great job!
@SpeedAddict731
@SpeedAddict731 Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@FoxcastMedia
@FoxcastMedia 5 жыл бұрын
Damn that camera work is amazing! Lol! Killed it Ken!
@SpeedAddict731
@SpeedAddict731 5 жыл бұрын
Foxcast Media yes sir. Thanks bro!
@johnlucero9843
@johnlucero9843 3 жыл бұрын
@@SpeedAddict731 Ken do you rotate from 12 to 5 or rotate one full revolution to 5 ?
@mikemoore201
@mikemoore201 3 жыл бұрын
This video is a lifesaver Ken, thanks for putting it out!
@TheBullockFamily
@TheBullockFamily 5 жыл бұрын
Great video, I’m glad you went back over how to rotate the crank before installing the right and timing chain.
@SpeedAddict731
@SpeedAddict731 5 жыл бұрын
The Bullock Family Stories Thank you!
@MustangGuru
@MustangGuru 4 жыл бұрын
Also the QR code’s on the cams will be facing up. Good job , Excellent video.
@SpeedAddict731
@SpeedAddict731 4 жыл бұрын
Mustang Guru yes they will! Thank you!
@TheHotSauceGT350
@TheHotSauceGT350 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. I'm getting ready to replace my timing cover and this helps a LOT
@SpeedAddict731
@SpeedAddict731 Жыл бұрын
Very welcome. Thank you!
@jonturner4076
@jonturner4076 5 жыл бұрын
Good job, Ken! - Very complete and informative, appreciate it!
@SpeedAddict731
@SpeedAddict731 5 жыл бұрын
Jon Turner Thank you sir 🙏
@lestilarnold4758
@lestilarnold4758 4 жыл бұрын
Sweet video! Great close-up and clean instruction. Would you happen to have a video for installing cams in the heads from the beginning? I will be getting my block back from the machine shop soon and would love to see how the experts do it. I will be rebuilding a Gen 2 motor for my 2017 Shelby GT 500. Keep the videos coming. Thank you!
@johnlucero9843
@johnlucero9843 3 жыл бұрын
Very good video bro best one out there hands down!
@ypena02
@ypena02 5 жыл бұрын
Your best video so far, thanks for putting this together!
@SpeedAddict731
@SpeedAddict731 5 жыл бұрын
Yomar thank you and your welcome.
@crimsonstang
@crimsonstang 4 жыл бұрын
You guys should've put on billet chain guides since you had it cracked up and the guides off.
@SpeedAddict731
@SpeedAddict731 5 жыл бұрын
Watch video in its entirety before performing timing procedure on your vehicle! This video is for gen 2 Mustang Coyote engine 15-17 Mustangs! THE GEN 2 F150 COYOTE USES A DIFFERENT TIMING PROCEDURE . If your running a gen 2 F150 engine with gen 2 Mustang cams and phasers you can use this video also. Here is the link to the gen 1 coyote 11-14 oil pump gear install and timing procedure kzbin.info/www/bejne/laSkmpaArdmjnaM
@cooterbaby3360
@cooterbaby3360 3 жыл бұрын
I usually just mark the chains since the different gens have different procedures. Just to rid of any confusion
@TheModAddict
@TheModAddict 5 жыл бұрын
I don't even have a Coyote car ..why am I watching this? Great content.. interesting seeing your drop test not have a single hitch.. I've heard people say they was brittle as a sugar cube..
@SpeedAddict731
@SpeedAddict731 5 жыл бұрын
HorsePlay Motoring Thank you and thanks for watching the video! They say the gen 2s are stronger than the gen 1’s. I’d like to drop a set of gen 1’s to test out. I finally did get them to break another day but I had to throw it at the concrete lol. Never broke by just dropping them.
@charliestavro2843
@charliestavro2843 5 жыл бұрын
Great job brother! Looks like a hell of a job in the car. Gonna have to do these on mine once we get boost.
@SpeedAddict731
@SpeedAddict731 5 жыл бұрын
Charlie Stavro thank you! It’s not horrible in the car. Definitely a lot easier on your back out of the car lol.
@loscar5oh
@loscar5oh 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to record this video. This is definitely going to come handy when boosting my 5.0.
@SpeedAddict731
@SpeedAddict731 5 жыл бұрын
Loscar5oh thank you and your welcome!!!
@mustangmanny9909
@mustangmanny9909 5 жыл бұрын
Great video Ken!you do great tech content!
@SpeedAddict731
@SpeedAddict731 5 жыл бұрын
mustang manny thank you sir. I like doing these videos to help others. I can’t wait to get back to the track also. This is my passion, working on cars and racing them. Thanks for the support.
@Whistlefish13
@Whistlefish13 5 жыл бұрын
Good Job Ken! Thank you for making this video!
@SpeedAddict731
@SpeedAddict731 5 жыл бұрын
Whistlefish 13 thank you and your welcome.
@timmyrland
@timmyrland 5 жыл бұрын
Thankyou great tutorial
@SpeedAddict731
@SpeedAddict731 5 жыл бұрын
BoostedTM thank you sir!
@StockISHBuilds
@StockISHBuilds 5 жыл бұрын
Amazing video! If you could upload that workshop manual with the torque specs that would be great!!
@jeffpeters1946
@jeffpeters1946 Жыл бұрын
a string wrapped around the lower bolt between the head and washer will allow you to hold it in place and have much better access to the head for a micro wrench. once it is a few threads in just pull the string and continue. the magnet blocks way too much space. you only need it to place the bolt then rely on the string.
@MrDaavee
@MrDaavee 5 жыл бұрын
Great video!! Been looking for a video for a walk through on this. More so on the timing aspect of it. Never played with multiple cams before. Guess its time to start ripping my '18 apart. (yes, i know the oil pan has to come off to install my gears)
@SpeedAddict731
@SpeedAddict731 5 жыл бұрын
MrDaavee thank you! Timing is the scariest part for most! Glad I made it to where people feel more comfortable with it. Yea the 18+ oil pan throws a curveball in there.
@MrDaavee
@MrDaavee 5 жыл бұрын
@@SpeedAddict731 The mechanicals was never an issue for me. That doesn't bother me at all. Even if i had to drop the K member to remove the oil pan like some claim. No problem. Was just the timing of multiple cams on a stupidly expensive engine is what worried me. You honestly made it look super easy. Total confidence restored lol. Thanks man!
@SpeedAddict731
@SpeedAddict731 5 жыл бұрын
MrDaavee your welcome.
@Family_Ties_Racing
@Family_Ties_Racing 5 жыл бұрын
Keep the tech vids coming 🔥
@SpeedAddict731
@SpeedAddict731 5 жыл бұрын
Adrain6845 yes sir ! I will be sure to do more in the future.
@Lilljoescratch
@Lilljoescratch 2 жыл бұрын
Great vid thanks 🤘
@brandonbrowning3155
@brandonbrowning3155 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video, very helpful!!👍👍👍
@SpeedAddict731
@SpeedAddict731 5 жыл бұрын
BMB Motorsports no problem and thank you!
@4uhabbo
@4uhabbo 5 жыл бұрын
Congratulations on your Shelby just watched the video today. Getting ready to do oil pump gears and a crank sprocket on my 14 in a couple of weeks. By far the best video I have seen on oil pump gears and crank sprocket.👍👍 P.S can you do one on installing a Whipple😂
@SpeedAddict731
@SpeedAddict731 5 жыл бұрын
Jason Friedberg thank you. Contact me before you do the oil pump gears on the 14 the gen1 coyotes are a tad different in the chain removal/install with the timing! Hit me up on Instagram. I’ve been wanting to do a gen 1 video but haven’t had one to do yet. Well I had one but that went south because the engine was locked up.
@4uhabbo
@4uhabbo 5 жыл бұрын
Speed Addict 731 definitely will, have to go down to Chicago this weekend to do some work at the Ford plant. But after that is when I plan on putting my baby under the knife putting the oil pump gears and crank sprocket. Then putting my Whipple on been reading and watching every video I can on those two installs. Any help would be greatly appreciate.
@SpeedAddict731
@SpeedAddict731 5 жыл бұрын
Jason Friedberg Foxcast has a video where we were sitting a whipple in a coyote that is getting ready to go in a fox. The whipple install is the easiest install. Less modification than the TVS when installing on a coyote.
@jaylongton
@jaylongton 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome video Ken! Great content!
@SpeedAddict731
@SpeedAddict731 5 жыл бұрын
jay longton thank you sir!
@pumpkinkings5503
@pumpkinkings5503 4 жыл бұрын
Great job very informative thanks brother
@jm2588
@jm2588 5 жыл бұрын
Great instructions. Thanks!
@SpeedAddict731
@SpeedAddict731 5 жыл бұрын
Joseph Fisher thank you!
@scalla1384
@scalla1384 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video, makes it look not bad at all. Would it be possible to just loosen the pickup tube bolts and leave them threaded in? Rather than trying to finesse them back in?
@shadspov
@shadspov 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome video brotha. Haven’t seen these detailed of a video for this. Still gonna bring mine to you though haha
@SpeedAddict731
@SpeedAddict731 5 жыл бұрын
Daily Driven Mustangs thank you. I can take care of it for ya!
@Santiago-iv7oi
@Santiago-iv7oi 5 жыл бұрын
Good to know..
@StupidFastTruck
@StupidFastTruck 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Glad I found this video. I need to put a billet gear in my Whipple truck. What happen to boosted150 scared the hell out of me.
@SpeedAddict731
@SpeedAddict731 5 жыл бұрын
Stupid Fast Truck no problem and thank you! Yes everytime I see oil pump gears fail it worries me. But then I see people pushing crazy hp with stock ones. Better to be safe than sorry. I still haven’t changed mine out.
@SpeedAddict731
@SpeedAddict731 5 жыл бұрын
Stupid Fast Truck hey just wanted to let you know the gen 2 F150 engines time differently from the Mustang!
@StupidFastTruck
@StupidFastTruck 5 жыл бұрын
@@SpeedAddict731 Now that's interesting...I think the firing order is different too. Mine is a 2018 so that's a Gen 3 I think. Wonder if its different. Thanks!
@SpeedAddict731
@SpeedAddict731 5 жыл бұрын
Stupid Fast Truck yes yours is a gen3 the gen2 mustang and gen 3 mustang time the same. I’ll check on the gen 3 truck. It’s probably the same as gen 2 truck.
@StupidFastTruck
@StupidFastTruck 5 жыл бұрын
@@SpeedAddict731 thanks man!
@robertwolfman286
@robertwolfman286 5 жыл бұрын
I just followed your procedure on my Mustang, but failed to watch it through to the end before actually doing the steps. BIG MISTAKE!!! While re-installing the passenger-side primary chain, the video skips (what seems to me to be) a CRUCIAL step, i.e., rotating the crankshaft a full 360 degrees BEFORE putting it into the 5-o'clock position. I followed the steps as they are presented - I only rotated the crankshaft enough to get into the 5-o'clock position as shown in the video, then installed the chain, tensioner, guides, etc. Then, with both chains on, I rotated the crankshaft a complete turn to make sure everything was still in position. The colored links on both chains are on their respective timing marks on the crankshaft and camshaft pulleys. But since I did not rotate the crankshaft a full 360 degrees before installing the passenger-side chain, I must assume that the left set of pistons is not sync'ed properly with the right set of pistons. I have not yet installed the timing cover, so I can correct this situation fairly easily - but I'm at a loss on the correct procedure to follow now that the camshaft pulleys are no longer in the positions where I started. (Also, I'm not sure if I damaged the engine - i.e., crashing a valve into a piston! Do you know if this is a non-interfering engine?) Can you PLEASE provide me with instructions on how to recover? I'm assuming the the driver-side chain is OK, i.e., does not need to be removed. But I assume I'll need to remove and re-install the passenger-side chain, and will need to rotate the camshaft pulleys to a certain position first. Also, how can I know for certain that the end result is correct? All the spark plugs were removed before I started the removal - can I put equal-length dowels into each piston (through the spark plug holes) to see that all 8 pistons are in their proper positions? What positions should they be in? PLEASE HELP!!! (BTW: you really should modify the video to make it clear at that step that the viewer should not do the step until viewing the final minutes of the video where you announce the correction.) Thank you!
@SpeedAddict731
@SpeedAddict731 5 жыл бұрын
Robert Wolfman emailed you
@kellybaker2043
@kellybaker2043 3 жыл бұрын
Great video thanks
@JacobRDoty
@JacobRDoty 5 жыл бұрын
I just read through the comments and you said on gen 1 it's a bit different. Would you mind showing that when you can? Just subbed
@SpeedAddict731
@SpeedAddict731 5 жыл бұрын
Jacob R. Doty welcome to the channel! yes I have been trying to do a video on a gen 1. I had one I was doing in a customers car but the engine turned out to be no good so didn’t get to make the video. That is the coyote down video I made. If you need the information before I get a chance to get a video made. Feel free to hit me up on Instagram and I’ll help you any way I can.
@mr.roush6709
@mr.roush6709 5 жыл бұрын
great video very helpful for sure
@SpeedAddict731
@SpeedAddict731 5 жыл бұрын
sam constantino Thank you!
@BackyardBMX73
@BackyardBMX73 5 жыл бұрын
Great video, Ken! I'm sure I'll do this at some point with my fox swap. Need to do intake cams at the same time.
@SpeedAddict731
@SpeedAddict731 5 жыл бұрын
ponie1992 Thank you! Yes definitely need to do the intake cams on that car. But on the gen 1 coyotes Instead of crank at 5oclock on the left side it’s at 9oclock when removing and installing timing chains.
@BackyardBMX73
@BackyardBMX73 5 жыл бұрын
@@SpeedAddict731 you just need to make a trip to SC and help a brotha install. 😁
@SpeedAddict731
@SpeedAddict731 5 жыл бұрын
ponie1992 man that’s a long drive 😎. You never know though.
@justinyoung4299
@justinyoung4299 5 жыл бұрын
Great video
@SpeedAddict731
@SpeedAddict731 5 жыл бұрын
Justin Young Thank you!!
@frozenstang3868
@frozenstang3868 5 жыл бұрын
Boosted F150 had his break and it didnt end well , so if it happens even once i see no reason to chance it. Great video, glad to see your not messing around doin it by hand :) other than torquing of course
@SpeedAddict731
@SpeedAddict731 5 жыл бұрын
Richard Blythe Thank you! Yes I agree it might not ever happen but if it does it’s very costly. It’s worth it for the extra insurance and peace of mind. Yep power tools always for tear down. Going back you pretty much have to torque everything.
@frozenstang3868
@frozenstang3868 5 жыл бұрын
@@SpeedAddict731 From what i have read its related to blown applications and bouncing off the rev limiter though i dont want to find out. This will be my first upgrade with having a blower in mind along with 3.73 gears and the short first gear in the MT82 7 grand comes up fast.
@SpeedAddict731
@SpeedAddict731 5 жыл бұрын
Richard Blythe yes it’s the harmonics from banging off the rev limiter that are the biggest cause for the failures. Main reason my shift points are at 7400 rpm but my rev limiter is set to 7800. So I don’t have a chance to bounce off it. But in a manual sometimes you get there in a hurry like you said especially in a high hp F/I application. Like you said it’s better to do it and not need them than to break them and it cost you an engine.
@frozenstang3868
@frozenstang3868 5 жыл бұрын
@@SpeedAddict731 Its a shame a guy has to spend 35 grand and buy a car that needs another 5g to get it up to par. bushings, shifter ,OP gears, billet guuides LOL. I had my car 1 day and was making plans. Keep up the good info and your channel will blow up.
@SpeedAddict731
@SpeedAddict731 5 жыл бұрын
Richard Blythe thank you! Yep same here I bought the car and ordered exhaust and supercharger. Haven’t stopped spending money yet lol. But really these cars are a great starting point.
@NickelWhiteS550
@NickelWhiteS550 5 жыл бұрын
Made that look easy!
@SpeedAddict731
@SpeedAddict731 5 жыл бұрын
Nickel white S550 it’s really not that bad. Definitely a lot easier out of the car lol.
@gsheverything_2716
@gsheverything_2716 5 жыл бұрын
Nice work man
@SpeedAddict731
@SpeedAddict731 4 жыл бұрын
GSHeverything _27 thank you!!
@hernandosilva976
@hernandosilva976 3 жыл бұрын
Great video Can you show how the second chain is suppose to be timed? thx
@pheonixfps9248
@pheonixfps9248 2 жыл бұрын
Ken, why can't you turn the crank back from the 5 to the 12, vs having to turn it the 1.5 additional revolutions?
@ozzyman640
@ozzyman640 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video! Messed up pretty bad on re installing the driver side chain. I didn’t line up the links properly and turned the engine from 5 to 12 o’clock. Now I have the crank at 12 and my driver side cam L marking is at 6 o clock. How would I go by resetting the timing? Thanks!
@PredatorPride
@PredatorPride Жыл бұрын
Hey! I am having a difficult time getting the sprocket on believe it or not. All videos I watch it slides in relatively easy. Mine is pretty snug, I have a MMR one. I don’t know if you have any tips to get this on without damaging anything. Thanks!
@ypautomotriz
@ypautomotriz 3 жыл бұрын
thank boss
@musclecar62
@musclecar62 3 жыл бұрын
Hey guys, just subscribed. I have a question. I have a 2016 mustang GT. I also have a 2012 mustang gt. I will be swapping the Gen2 motor into my Gen1. Is this something you guys have a video on on the process? I heard I need to swap oil pans and is a simple plug and play. I also will be watching this when I install the billet oil pump gears.
@charlesholloman2400
@charlesholloman2400 5 жыл бұрын
Is it different on the 11-14 motors? I thought for the left side chain, you move crank to 9 o'clock? Very helpful video, great job!
@SpeedAddict731
@SpeedAddict731 5 жыл бұрын
yes the gen 1 engines have a different timing procedure
@stevenbryant4917
@stevenbryant4917 2 ай бұрын
What about the phaser’s in the gen2 F150 should they be changed also I’ve read that they are weak also?
@nickjudkins
@nickjudkins 3 жыл бұрын
I messed up! I didn’t set the cam phasers in the right orientation. I wish i would have seen your video before doing this. My passenger side chain came off at 12 o clock, but the L is phasing the fender. The drivers side came off at 5 o clock, but the cam spun when i pulled the chain off. Help!!!
@giovannilopez5007
@giovannilopez5007 3 жыл бұрын
When you rotate the crank after everything is timed, is it normal for the timing tensioners to fully compress and then decompress? I am having that happen right now and not too sure if it is normal because when the tensioners compress, there is a lot of slack in the chain. I put everything on and started the engine and I could hear the chain hitting the passengers top timing guide, or at least that is what it sounds like.
@lb0193
@lb0193 5 жыл бұрын
Ken come do mine for me lol...from what I have read the boundary oil pump gears and crank sprocket seem to be the best and most popular....sweet 93 cobra
@SpeedAddict731
@SpeedAddict731 5 жыл бұрын
lb0193 yes the boundary gears and sprocket even came in a vacuum filled oiled package. If you do decide to do your oil pump gears yourself. Get ahold of me. The timing procedure on the gen 1 coyote is a little different.
@jetjoey19
@jetjoey19 5 жыл бұрын
@@SpeedAddict731 Ken!? Im doing this myself on a 15 f150 motor, but....but im swapping to oem gt cams as well, do you happen to have the instructions for that? As in cam install on mustang coyote gen 2. Thanks!!! Like your channel and content!!!
@SpeedAddict731
@SpeedAddict731 5 жыл бұрын
jetjoey19 thank you! yes I do. Send me a message on Instagram.
@jetjoey19
@jetjoey19 5 жыл бұрын
@@SpeedAddict731 I dont have an Instagram unfortunately. But ill email you.
@jetjoey19
@jetjoey19 5 жыл бұрын
@@SpeedAddict731 email sent to speedaddict731@gmail.com
@Patrob1920
@Patrob1920 3 жыл бұрын
Do you need to prime The engine after oil pump gear intallation? I whant to do that on my gen3 thanks good video!!
@donaldspeck9212
@donaldspeck9212 Жыл бұрын
What's the main purpose for replacing the oil pump gears?
@TheChoice84
@TheChoice84 2 жыл бұрын
About to get mine done how many hours labor should I expect
@houseofmods2104
@houseofmods2104 5 жыл бұрын
Good vid....
@coyoteswaped
@coyoteswaped 5 жыл бұрын
Great video! I'm a new subscriber. I'm just starting my swap and have a question about the phasers on the F150. I have a 2016 gen 2 truck motor that i installed 2016 Mustang cams and exhaust phasere. I was told that the exhaust phasers were the only ones that were different. I called a local ford dealer and had them cross check the part # and the intake phaser showed the same part # between the F150 and mustang for that year. Just want to see if you could verify this to be true as well. The engine seems to be in time.
@SpeedAddict731
@SpeedAddict731 5 жыл бұрын
James Drewery I will have to check on that for you.
@coyoteswaped
@coyoteswaped 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for getting back to me... I'm almost positive the intake phasers are the same. If there different I cant find a part number.
@MustangGuru
@MustangGuru 4 жыл бұрын
I lay a rag under the bolt area of the pickup. If they do fall they will fall on the rag and I can retrieve them easy
@SpeedAddict731
@SpeedAddict731 4 жыл бұрын
Mustang Guru that works great!!
@Seynxx
@Seynxx 3 жыл бұрын
I have a gen 3 coyote NA but plan on superchargeing w a Vortech or Paxton or keep it NA and get a cobra jet . Do you think I should get oil pump gears before I do it ?
@NathanMillerAZ
@NathanMillerAZ 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks sir. Great video! Quick question. Is the timing procedure the same for both f-150 and Mustang Gen 2 coyote engines. I understand that my F-150 sourced 2016 Coyote has the old / different firing order compared to the 2016 Coyote from a Mustang. I want to be sure I get this done without introducing valves to pistons...
@SpeedAddict731
@SpeedAddict731 5 жыл бұрын
Nathan Miller hey the timing procedure on the gen 2 f150 timing procedure Different from the gen 2 Mustang. Lmk if you need the instructions!!!! If your using mustang cams and phasers in the f150 engine then this is the same
@F1FIDY
@F1FIDY 5 жыл бұрын
So they passed the drop test , do they really need to be replaced from boosted applications ?
@SpeedAddict731
@SpeedAddict731 5 жыл бұрын
Matthew Pierce the gen 2 gears are stronger than gen 1 gears. But it’s kind of cheap insurance to be honest. The price of gears vs price of engine. Really the harmonics of running a 2 step or hitting the rev limiter is what kills them the most.
@marshalleng1933
@marshalleng1933 5 жыл бұрын
A freaking perfect explanation! Thanks man! Only question is, is it going to be different if you install cams. Since you have to remove the phasers? Curious as to how that works
@SpeedAddict731
@SpeedAddict731 5 жыл бұрын
Marshall Eng thank you. Timing is the same as far as main timing. You do have to time the cams together but that is real simple. I can send you the instructions if you need. Send me an email to speedaddict731@gmail.com.
@emmanuelllamas2625
@emmanuelllamas2625 4 жыл бұрын
@@SpeedAddict731 can you please provide me the instructions on timing the cams together?
@SpeedAddict731
@SpeedAddict731 4 жыл бұрын
Emmanuel Llamas what year and mustang or f150 engine? Also what is your email.
@SpeedAddict731
@SpeedAddict731 4 жыл бұрын
Emmanuel Llamas sent
@emmanuelllamas2625
@emmanuelllamas2625 4 жыл бұрын
@@SpeedAddict731 I didn't get anything yet
@Gear_head11
@Gear_head11 8 ай бұрын
I'm doing mine now. In other videos I've seen them spin the left bank 360 back to 5oclock then continue on to 12 o'clock to reinstall right chain. Did you leave that out of the video or do you go straight from 5 back to 12?
@SpeedAddict731
@SpeedAddict731 8 ай бұрын
It’s in there. The audio messed up so I had to reshoot talking about it toward the end. But this video which we do on a gen3 which has same timing as Gen 2 is a little more detailed. kzbin.info/www/bejne/q5a0coqYfd2jl6csi=rTEP2q7CCzQMQMyf
@boola2x
@boola2x 2 жыл бұрын
Hey guys, at 15:08 did you rotate counterclockwise to get the passenger side chain on? In other words from the 5’oclock position to the 12 o’clock position was it a clockwise or counterclockwise rotation? Thanks so much for this video! 🤙🏽🏁
@boola2x
@boola2x 2 жыл бұрын
Never mind you answer it later 😅
@alavaro3260
@alavaro3260 5 жыл бұрын
Only thing I’m confused on is, you said after left side chain is on, the crank will he be at 5 degrees and you have to rotate it one full revolution clock wise until it hits 12? Can you explain this part a little better
@SpeedAddict731
@SpeedAddict731 5 жыл бұрын
J_4.0 yes after you put the left chain on(drivers side) the keyway is At 5 o’clock you want to turn 1 full turn clockwise till you are at 5 o’clock again then rotate clock wise until keyway is at 12 o’clock. Then you will put the right chain on(passenger side).
@50bigg50
@50bigg50 2 жыл бұрын
Great video ken. Are there any signs a car may be out of timing if this was not done correctly?
@SpeedAddict731
@SpeedAddict731 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Yes you will get cam/crank correlation codes and it will run rough.
@50bigg50
@50bigg50 2 жыл бұрын
@@SpeedAddict731 thanks for the response. Just did mine before a supercharger install and was worried but it’s been a couple weeks and no codes so I should be good.
@SpeedAddict731
@SpeedAddict731 2 жыл бұрын
@@50bigg50 yea that’s one of those things you know right after startup.
@50bigg50
@50bigg50 2 жыл бұрын
@@SpeedAddict731 gotcha thanks again man.
@JosePerez-pe9cb
@JosePerez-pe9cb 3 жыл бұрын
For Gen. 3 where do you get the oil pump better than a factory
@johnsommerfeld6258
@johnsommerfeld6258 5 жыл бұрын
Great video. Best one I seen for gen 2. Can you show how the second chain is suppose to be timed? Does it matter which phaser the double link goes? Thanks in advance!
@SpeedAddict731
@SpeedAddict731 5 жыл бұрын
John Sommerfeld I talk about the other chain later in the vid. If you need more send me an email speedaddict731@gmail.com. Not sure what you mean by double link?
@johnsommerfeld6258
@johnsommerfeld6258 5 жыл бұрын
@@SpeedAddict731 the 2 blue links and the single blue link. Does it matter if the 2 blue links line up with the intake or exhaust phaser?
@SpeedAddict731
@SpeedAddict731 5 жыл бұрын
John Sommerfeld on the gen two coyote it’s only one colored link one for the crank and one for the cam. Are you talking about the secondary chain?
@johnsommerfeld6258
@johnsommerfeld6258 5 жыл бұрын
@@SpeedAddict731 yes on the secondary chains.
@SpeedAddict731
@SpeedAddict731 5 жыл бұрын
John Sommerfeld send me a email to speedaddict731@gmail.com so I can send workshop manual pdf with instructions.
@jasonwieber2762
@jasonwieber2762 4 жыл бұрын
Man I dont get my car, this is the 3rd video i watched, had the manual too, did exactly what you guys did like you said it's basically idiot proof and my car doesnt run lol God damn it that was so much work too, I'm gonna send it off to ford, have em redo the head gasket so they can fucking time it
@Droidman86
@Droidman86 4 жыл бұрын
On the left side at 5, I forgot to turn it 360 and then to 12. Instead I just went from 5 to 12. Now that the time is wrong, do I just do it from the beginning like Ford says OR do I have to take a different approach considering the incorrect timing?
@SpeedAddict731
@SpeedAddict731 4 жыл бұрын
Send me an email at speedaddict731@gmail.com
@claytonechols4876
@claytonechols4876 2 жыл бұрын
How come nobody drops the replacement oil pump gears?..... the stock gears are fine up to atleast 1000 HP just don't live on the rev limiter that's what breaks them
@SpeedAddict731
@SpeedAddict731 2 жыл бұрын
I would not trust gen1 gears to 1000. Gen2 or 3 maybe but I’ve seen people break those. One thing that some don’t think about is the crank sprocket. I recently was putting opg in a 18 Mustang and when I took it apart the crank sprocket was cracked. It’s more of an insurance thing with opg anyway. Oh and I’ve dropped a set of billet opg that I took out that wasn’t getting reused and they didn’t break. The drop thing is just to see if they would break. That’s not the type of stress that breaks them in an engine anyway.
@Dpiazza555
@Dpiazza555 5 жыл бұрын
You’re making good power while using the factory style oil system; do you know how far people are taking it before needing an external pump?
@SpeedAddict731
@SpeedAddict731 5 жыл бұрын
D Piazza the stock oil system is great. Don’t really see anyone doing anything external. Tuner is running over 900rwhp on stock engine and oiling system. The stock oil pump gears themselves get replaced due to chance of breaking causing oiling issues.
@Dpiazza555
@Dpiazza555 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome that is good to know.
@tyleranthony2614
@tyleranthony2614 5 жыл бұрын
Could you briefly explain why you rotate the crankshaft one whole revolution clockwise and then continue clockwise to the 12 o’clock position prior to doing the right hand side timing chain? Why don’t you just rotate the keyway counter clockwise from the 5 o’clock position to the 12 o’clock?
@SpeedAddict731
@SpeedAddict731 5 жыл бұрын
Tyler Anthony Ford doesn’t want these engines rotated counter clockwise. It has to do with how the tension is on the chains. I go by the book when I’m showing someone how to do something. Leaves less room for error. The reason you go one full revolution around clockwise to 5 and continue to 12 is to get the engine back to the original spot that you removed the chains.
@tyleranthony2614
@tyleranthony2614 5 жыл бұрын
Thank makes sense now. Thank you! I’m going to be doing my install in a few weeks, and this video was extremely helpful.
@SpeedAddict731
@SpeedAddict731 5 жыл бұрын
Tyler Anthony if you have any questions during install feel free to send message on instagram
@Sighlense
@Sighlense 4 жыл бұрын
What brand is your torque wrench? I can’t find any that have the ability to read inch, foot AND degree.
@sSkillaz336
@sSkillaz336 3 жыл бұрын
Snap on
@jmacgarage117
@jmacgarage117 5 жыл бұрын
2018 mustang gen 3 same as gen 2?
@ford4x4460
@ford4x4460 4 жыл бұрын
In your OPINION is it worth changing out the oil pump gears?
@SpeedAddict731
@SpeedAddict731 4 жыл бұрын
ron nie it’s insurance. I didn’t run them in my 17 and had no issues. But I would have felt better if they were in there lol. Just something to help you sleep better at night. If you don’t put them in and something happens you will kick yourself. I took the risk and had no issues.
@jakesreef1730
@jakesreef1730 4 жыл бұрын
the oil pump gears dont get impact from the side they get impacted on there vertical axis. they spin in the oil pump not flip. drop them virtical andntue out come is completely different.
@SpeedAddict731
@SpeedAddict731 4 жыл бұрын
Jake burch yep, we were just seeing if we could break them. Even dropping them(which type of hit is never duplicated in an engine) they didn’t want to break. I ran stock opg’s in my 17 supercharged gt with no issues. But some aren’t so lucky. I still think two step or hitting rev limiter is what takes them out.
@jakesreef1730
@jakesreef1730 4 жыл бұрын
@@SpeedAddict731 oh I totally agree with 2 step and rev limiter isnwhat brakes them. the shock there taking at 8k rpm hitting limiter has to be tremendous about of shock load. yea I'm going supercharged and I'm keeping the stock oil gears. I'm just not going to be hitting limiter and being a jackass with it. ya know. but great video tho.
@Poole-ud3hj
@Poole-ud3hj 4 жыл бұрын
So I’m fixing to do mine in my 18’, do I have to pull the intake also?
@SpeedAddict731
@SpeedAddict731 4 жыл бұрын
505 5.0 Poole no
@highvoltagews647
@highvoltagews647 Жыл бұрын
is this the same procedure for the gen 3?
@SpeedAddict731
@SpeedAddict731 Жыл бұрын
Yes but I did a video of a gen 3 with cam installation and have a more detailed timing information in that video. Here is the link. kzbin.info/www/bejne/q5a0coqYfd2jl6c
@GearHead704
@GearHead704 5 жыл бұрын
Do the fox bodies have oil pump gears too? I had never heard of this. Although I'm not a great mechanic.
@4eyefox
@4eyefox 5 жыл бұрын
No, modular motors only
@GearHead704
@GearHead704 5 жыл бұрын
@@4eyefox Gotcha. Thank you!
@SpeedAddict731
@SpeedAddict731 5 жыл бұрын
GearHead704 if you put a coyote in them they do 😜
@GearHead704
@GearHead704 5 жыл бұрын
@@SpeedAddict731 😄
@mattsoppa2010
@mattsoppa2010 5 жыл бұрын
I guess I should've waited until the end for the explanation of rotating the crank 360 then to 12 o'clock, doh! Gotta redo mine
@SpeedAddict731
@SpeedAddict731 5 жыл бұрын
Matt Soppa sorry about that. The video messed up. Luckily I was still at the shop when I realized the footage was useless and was able to add it in at the end! If you have any questions feel free to hit me up.
@mattsoppa2010
@mattsoppa2010 5 жыл бұрын
@@SpeedAddict731 Thanks Ken, video was super helpful, just anxious now to get back home and re time it. The procedure is easier than a 3V!
@SpeedAddict731
@SpeedAddict731 5 жыл бұрын
Matt Soppa Thank you! yes alot easier than a 3valve!
@MattSoppa
@MattSoppa 5 жыл бұрын
@@SpeedAddict731 Just realized I was replying under the wrong account, haha
@SpeedAddict731
@SpeedAddict731 5 жыл бұрын
Matt Soppa I was wondering if that was the same Matt Soppa with the sick swap. Almost asked! Man I love your car. Subscribed to the channel!
@MustangGuru
@MustangGuru 4 жыл бұрын
The gears in the Gen2 are more robust than the Gen1. On the outer ring
@SpeedAddict731
@SpeedAddict731 4 жыл бұрын
Mustang Guru yea the gen 1’s are the weakest.
@mattbo2003
@mattbo2003 5 жыл бұрын
Is there more than one way the phasers line up if you were to replace the cams? I have a 2015 truck engine and I ordered all 4 mustang cams.
@SpeedAddict731
@SpeedAddict731 5 жыл бұрын
mattbo2003 15-17 Mustang engines all time like this. The cams time to each other with the secondary chain. Feel free to send me a message on Instagram if you need any info.
@MarkWalters-hr4jq
@MarkWalters-hr4jq 5 жыл бұрын
@@SpeedAddict731 With a gen 2 truck engine like he has are the phasers the same as the mustangs?
@jetjoey19
@jetjoey19 5 жыл бұрын
@@MarkWalters-hr4jq no they are not, ford performance sells an entire timing kit for about 500 or you can buy just phasers for 479, seems odd huh? But i found out the shitty way, couldnt line them up. And thats on a gen 2.
@MarkWalters-hr4jq
@MarkWalters-hr4jq 5 жыл бұрын
@@jetjoey19 Thank you sir. I did order the Ford racing kit a couple weeks ago just to be safe. It is a fair deal for all those parts! Really surprised that there is not more info out there on the need to swap phasers, kind of an important detail... Thanks again.
@jetjoey19
@jetjoey19 5 жыл бұрын
@@MarkWalters-hr4jq not a problem my man. Yea, ive seen 1 info video of that, and thats how i cam to see f150 and mustang phaser differ because of firing order differences
@felipeespinoza3271
@felipeespinoza3271 4 жыл бұрын
Is this the same as the 15-17 F150 5.0 ?
@SpeedAddict731
@SpeedAddict731 4 жыл бұрын
No
@acokedupmonkey3762
@acokedupmonkey3762 5 жыл бұрын
What size bolt head is on the crank pulley bolt?
@SpeedAddict731
@SpeedAddict731 5 жыл бұрын
Cornfed 5.0 18mm
@HENSLEYDMB
@HENSLEYDMB 5 жыл бұрын
Is there a gasket from pump to engine?
@SpeedAddict731
@SpeedAddict731 5 жыл бұрын
William Hensley no
@jetjoey19
@jetjoey19 5 жыл бұрын
What was the mileage on this beautiful power plant?
@SpeedAddict731
@SpeedAddict731 5 жыл бұрын
jetjoey19 new with no miles.
@gsheverything_2716
@gsheverything_2716 5 жыл бұрын
Do someone needs to do this, if they ONLY have Bolts On?
@SpeedAddict731
@SpeedAddict731 5 жыл бұрын
GSHeverything _27 depends on how high your revving and if your using two step.
@gsheverything_2716
@gsheverything_2716 5 жыл бұрын
@@SpeedAddict731 thank you sir, that video was very informative.
@chadbiedrzycki2138
@chadbiedrzycki2138 2 жыл бұрын
I was Re-installing the passenger side chain I had the crankshaft at 12 o’clock we’re it’s supposed to be and the colored master link are on the crankshaft and on the cam shaft where the R is but I had a little slack in the chain on the non-tension side and I wanna make sure it didn’t mess up my timing can I take the chain off set the crankshaft to 12 o’clock and start over to do The passenger side? Because with the crankshaft key at 12 o’clock and the camshaft R Timing mark on top the master links distance set your timing correct so it has to be right ?
@CheapRidesAutoSales
@CheapRidesAutoSales 3 жыл бұрын
Its wrong! It has to be rotated a full 360 then to the 12oo position for the second chain!!
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