Reacting to IGN's Top 25 Anime of All Time

[@Northernhail]

29:50 is when he actually gets to the list

[@By-Haven]

When All might said "It's mightin' time" and mighted all over The League of Villains I shed a tear, truly one of the moments of all time

[@lienmichael869]

chant NAM MYO HO REN GE KYO this is only way to be happy convert to nichiren shoshu

[@I.disagree]

You could've at least changed the meme format a bit

[@doggodaily7685]

morbin time

[@yesman4974]

@@I.disagree yup so overdone and it's always used in anime communities 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@I.disagree]

@@yesman4974 Maybe repetitive jokes are common in the anime community. I remember a lot of repeated jokes in genshin when I used to play it

[@arkker0556]

Ah yes my favorite genshin streamer uploading his genshin vods again

[@lienmichael869]

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[@DannyHsn]

IGN's rating should never be taken seriously, the more reviews they do the more credibility they lose

[@lienmichael869]

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[@shutdahellup69420]

yeah their reviews look more and more like trolls

[@mookiestewart3776]

This list wasn’t horrible besides the my hero selection

[@micu8942]

too much water

[@inferneo]

7.8/10 too much reviewing

[@randompolygon8401]

the audacity of this list to put demon slayer at 14, and not have steins;gate, while not even mentioning stuff like: madoka magica, parasyte, vinland saga, or kaguya sama

[@lienmichael869]

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[@marchbelongee]

The list definitely was a trash fest fr

[@philo2189]

@@lienmichael869 stop bro this isn't funny. It wasn't funny the first time you did it.

[@thomasffrench3639]

Bro Demon Slayer is the best Shonen adaptation, why would you not have it on there?

[@randompolygon8401]

@@thomasffrench3639 Cause the story and chatactets are mid-below mid, also i wouldn't even call i tthe best shounen adaptation, thats mob psycho.

[@antzerobooks]

stein's gate is one of the best sci fi of all time and not just in anime, they really put it on honorable mention while putting more than 5 shounen on the list

[@Amaling]

the honourable mentions are better than the top 25 straight up on average. Ranma half is kinda whatever with slow pacing I'd have to imagine, but everything else FUCKIN SLAPS

[@scottgimple8107]

It really isn’t. Better then sci fi like serial experiments lain, legend of the galactic hero’s, akira, blade runner, metropolis, ext

[@randompolygon8401]

seeing it there right after demon slayer at 14 physically hurt me

[@randompolygon8401]

@@scottgimple8107 I have only seen lain, and while I do think steins;gate is the far better show, I can't disagree with lain being a better sci-fi. but I have to say, isn't glactic heroes a space opera? I really don't think the sci-fi aspect of that show is what is impressive about it. from what I have heard that show is great because of it's political aspect. I've also only read half the first volume of akira and.... I mean, best sci-fi? I mean ok, is a cyberpunk show with good world building also the best sci-fi? I feel like while yes it is a good sci-fi, it's reasons for being good are completely different to the likes of lain and steins;gate so it's near impossible to compare. I honestly feel more comfortable comparing most cyberpunk shows to fantasy series.

[@lienmichael869]

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[@perkeletto640]

Gigguk's "So i watched FMAB..." is god knows how many years in the making.

[@swxrn]

as someone who watched Naruto as one of their first animes. I can still remember the feeling of being fully brought into the story and always actually being excited for the next episode or to see how the characters evolved, obviously 100s of animes later I can see the flaws, but when judging it is based off the experience you had when watching it and not the technical standpoint of what they did right or wrong writing wise or the crazy amount of fillers, it is great. This is why naruto is peak for me...

[@newbie4789]

Yeah .. it is quite weird that despite having a LOT of issues with the show, the people who have experienced it as an early show in their anime viewing history keep it quite close to heart. I'm one myself, I have a lot of friends who does that and I think even Garnt is one of us😂. Rating Naruto is hard because everyone who has seen it in their prime, has a special place for the show

[@Aestareth_]

@@newbie4789 shippuden's story is great imo. the parts with itachi and sasuke were peak, would have been great if not for the fillers

[@newbie4789]

@@Aestareth_ parts are great ofc but the entire story? Not so much. As Garnt said, The 4th Ninja war is one of the worst arc. It's just mindless powerscaling and abilities just coming out of thin air. The pain arc was amazing, Itachi arc was also great and the final fight between Naruto and Sasuke was soo well done. But the over-all show isn't that much. The first arc of Shippuuden was dragged out to no end and the dragging was visible from the very first watching. There were soo many fillers between and was quite annoying (the OG Naruto had a big collection of fillers at the end but you could skip the entire last 70 episodes of the show without missing anything... I'm saying as someone who actually watched all of them) Shippuuden fillers are less interesting, scattered around, and the main story isn't that hype at all points too. Though one thing I have to say it that the hype moments of Shippuuden were REALLY HYPE. But then again, a lot of them were reaping the results of what was sowed in Naruto. They were mainly conclusion to mysteries. If I have to say, Naruto can actually be in the top anime spot if they can rewrite the Ninja war a bit and make an edited version of the show without useless fillers. A full on restructuring (not remaking, I genuinely believe the animation and soundtrack departments were some of the best) is something Naruto as a show can appreciate the most

[@Aestareth_]

@@newbie4789 ok yeah fair points the story wasn't that great overall but it having so many episodes makes the hype moments so much more hype like bro when sasuke met reanimated itachi ? i lost my shit, and when he gave the final speech to sasuke i was really close to crying shorter animes don't usually do that for me

[@alucard9411]

true...but when making a list, you'll have to consider those points

[@fr0ck360]

Can’t believe Demon Slayer is above AOT 💀

[@Sakura_Best_Girl]

AOT's last arc just pulled the entire series down

[@danyalshakeel4402]

​@@Sakura_Best_Girl yes but not below demon slayer

[@Sakura_Best_Girl]

@@danyalshakeel4402 I would say it did because aot s4p2 stopped making sense already and demon Slayer so far is just better in animation, music and not changing characters to advance plot

[@kayng6865]

True, the only thing ds does better is the animation, literally the reason it became popular.

[@danyalshakeel4402]

@@Sakura_Best_Girl I respect your opinion but I can't help but wonder how is it not making sense ....maybe the character decisions like Annie joining Paradise island or the formation of ALLIANCE is kinda a negative point but otherwise I think in every aspect the story is well thoughtout...unless if you are one of those who says that Eren should kill all of the EARTH

[@NaruteetheFodderPianist]

Everyone has their own lists but it's sad that Gintama was nowhere mentioned. It's a GOATed show.

[@ItsShaz1]

My favourite Genshin streamer: Garnt Sidenote: I still love Death Note after all these years, I believe the first half is a master class in anime.

[@lienmichael869]

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[@mookiestewart3776]

The first half was awesome the second half was ok

[@matejmaric3346]

I didn't watch the stream, I didn't watch IGN's video, but I already know this VOD is gonna be the treasure of this generation

[@lienmichael869]

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[@takoyakiwcheese]

1:27:09 BACCANO! anime was already a banger. Imagine how much greater the light novels are. Even with the already interesting characters from the anime (which covered about 3.5 volumes), there are still 10+ more fan favorites that LN readers love, and 30+ more characters. There's just SO much more Baccano has to offer in terms of more characters, world-building, plot twists, character dynamics. Anime onlies are missing out

[@johnwise9811]

I just want another anime for it to cover more arcs. It's such a banger.

[@Just_shush_now]

The anime wasn’t that good… kind for hat goody annoying that works in JOJO but not in this anime.

[@DLH112]

There's so much missing from this list like Madoka, Haruhi, K-On!, Legend of the Galactic Heroes, Monogatari, AnoHana, TTGL.... Symphogear etc. I hope Bocchi the Rock can be up there in the future.

[@aranz1712]

Wholeheartedly agreed on the bocchi part

[@KelLorien]

Putting Steins;Gate in "honorable mentions" is infuriating. It's incomprehensible that it wouldn't make the cut when looking at the list. I guess the shounen bias in here is just too strong.

[@knashboi3914]

For real tho.. it's in my top 3, and I couldn't believe that Garnt was just like mehh about it.

[@therloser]

9:00 start

[@lienmichael869]

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[@sunnykhan7357]

You're the WINNER

[@dagon7259]

The one thing I got from this is that Gigguk is finally giving Bocchi the time it deserves. Such a surprising banger of a show that no one expected to be as good as it is

[@marchbelongee]

It's good but yk what's also unexpectedly good in this season? Renai flops, that show looks like a trash fest for the first 6 episodes but my gawd they did such a massive U turn that it entirely changed the genre of the anime. Just Try it, if you get passed ep6 you'll earn the plot twist if you didn't, you'll miss another banger this season. Akiba maid war and raven of the inner palace are great too and also isekai ojisan just made a come back.

[@builder4578]

What time did he talk about Bocchi?

[@YoSquid]

@@builder4578 20:53

[@Sheep.]

I was there from episode 1 with it having a 8.07 on MAL and only 7000 watchers. Now it has a 8.80 on MAL with almost 100000 watchers lmao. I never expected the show to be so much of a banger. One of the rare moments I found a true hidden gem of the season by myself lol.

[@MarcoBayod_MB]

It's funny how the hate for jujutsu Kaizen is "one season show, not enough" but then Rankin of kings (which I love with all my heart) it's a masterpiece with just one season, what about Cowboy Bebop? What I really hate is the lack of good points I why the hate for jujutsu and now it seems Chainsaw Man is getting the same treatment, like the hate Joey has for Arcane without watching it

[@shyguypro9876]

I would argue MHA is a very important anime for one major reason: It showed that seasonal shonen could work. This was a massive sea change compared to the era of the Big 3 and DBZ. Not saying anything about the quality of the show, but in terms of how shonen anime is made, MHA was very influential.

[@habialtx3]

this.

[@ShockSmile]

MHA is very good with some bad arcs, FMA is mid i don't know why people like it that much

[@pepperbreath35]

@@ShockSmile this feels like a bait. MHA just have way to big of a roster, a lot of whomegalul

[@itsakc4707]

@@ShockSmile Stop trolling lol

[@cluster4583]

Ye after it and opm the big seasonals shoen started to blow up like jjk, vinland saga, dorohedoro, demon slayer etc

[@APAMVs]

1:53:31 I am so glad you like this series! It's not always talked about and it's the best. The character/world building too, the fights are awesome. I couldn't recommend it more

[@lienmichael869]

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[@anugrahshrestha8208]

Aot is a Shonen. It's published in a shonen magazine. K-On! is a seinen because it's published in a seinen magazine.

[@felix7720]

Yeah, but it doesn't have a Shonen battle style of writing. Most people define Shonen as a writing style now regardless if it's based of what magazine it's from.

[@thomasffrench3639]

@@felix7720 and the only ones with the formula are from Shonen Jump. So it’s more accurate that shonen is just the brand of that magazine instead of representing the demographic.

[@felix7720]

@@thomasffrench3639 I'm aware of why it's more accurate, I'm not debating that, but 90% of the time when people say Shonen they're talking about Shonen as a genre, so at this point telling people otherwise seems pointless because you know they're talking about it as a genre that feels like it's typically from Shonen Jump.

[@thomasffrench3639]

@@felix7720 it’s isn’t pretty much most, it’s basically all. That’s like calling NBC sitcoms a subgenre of sitcoms. It’s not a genre is a brand, and there’s a significant difference

[@haruhivt2405]

"It's about making a list that pisses off as little people as possible" Just like every award show decided by "experts" ever made. I wish at least youtubers would do a list of what they think is best whilst trying to be as objective as they can be, not just trying to not make people mad. This makes everything anitubers talk about so shallow but at least nowdays, not only Garnt, but most of them admit stuff like this. Sadly the only youtubers you find being genuine on stuff like this probably have about 500 subscribers.

[@doctordoom85]

I wish Garnt had elaborated more on FLCL, as I disagree that many shows have copied it. Because it wasn’t just the animation and music, but the unique way they showed a boy maturing both physically and emotionally through both the visual metaphors and story. And it did it all in only six episodes, so much like Baccano was more focused than Durarara as Garnt himself said, I think FLCL is more focused than any show that might try to copy it. It was also an unofficial swan song to the era of OVAs, as almost all OVAs afterwards were merely bonus episodes for anime series and not stand alone. So it has also the cultural significance to it along with being one hell of a solid show. I’ve seen nearly 200 anime, and it’s still #4 for me and I usually watch it once a year.

[@treebush]

KEYWORD ALMOST ALL OVA you could literally say the same with the 80s and 90s volume of OVA.

[@randompolygon8401]

I haven't seen FLCL, but every good thing that people say about it, is something that was in, and was great in sonny boy. which is in my top 10 favorites. and the themes of growing up are the main focus of the story, so it is VERY similar.

[@doctordoom85]

@@randompolygon8401 Is there a heavy focus in Sonny Boy on puberty, and/or relationships that rely too much on one person being too dependent on the other and their bond falls apart when that person does grow independent, and misguided understandings of what it means to “be an adult” like tolerating toxic relationships? Because if not, then their themes are very different. “Growing up” covers a massive amount of angles, FLCL does focus on specific ones, so another coming of age story may not be that similar.

[@randompolygon8401]

@@doctordoom85 sonny boy does look at it from a good few different angles, and relationships are indeed one of them. although it doesn't really dive into the toxicity of those possible relationship. it's more the "entering the real world after high school angle" it also largely mixes it's theme growing up with philosophical ideas like the meaning of death in world of immortality and the value of taking action. it kinda has an adolescent meets optimitic nihilism as it's core message. but the main reason I compare them is their "style". idk how to describe it, but if you watch a few clips, or better yet watch the entire show (it's great, I would put it in my top 5) you should get why I'm saying this.

[@lienmichael869]

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[@FrizFroz]

Mushishi deserves to be in the list. Not everyone's cup of tea understandably, but it's one of those shows like LOTGH that is genre-defining, yet it seems everyone has forgotten about it. There isn't anything quite like it even today.

[@jarethpalmer8672]

I'm watching it currently and it's so good. But I am a big slice of life fan I'm really worried there won't be a single slice of life anime on this list.

[@ShizukiShirano]

And even if there is, you can try to name only a few, ye.

[@stoicbartender]

Mushishi has been in my top 3 favourite anime for over a decade now and i still remember it fondly because I watched it with my aunt on a nice warm rainy summer night before she passed away, while most of my anime tastes came from late night adult swim and Toonami, mushishi is a special show that’ll forever resonate with me as it helped me become a stoic but caring individual and helping others like my aunt did………. BUT NAH MY HERO ACADEMY AND DRAGON BALLS BETTER BECAUSE IGN SAID SO LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL HARHARHARHAR 👍

[@ikodane4355]

Natsume's book of friends is like mushishi

[@TheKnightOfZ0]

Loth doesnt define anything but overrated

[@TropiKalBoards]

THE ENDING OF ATTACK ON TITAN ISNT BAD HOLY SHIT PEOPLE GENUINELY JUST HATE TO HATE

[@kubo-samabanbankai562]

My list would be something like this (without any order and films aren't included, only tv series and OVAs): 1- Legend of the galactic heroes 2- Ashita no joe 3- NGE 4- Texhnolyze 5- Serial experiments lain 6- Haibane renmei 7- Cowboy bebop 8- The Tatami galaxy 9- Ping pong the animation 10- FLCL 11- Rurouni kenshin trust & betrayal 12- Sangatsu no lion 13- Shouwa genroku rakugo shinjuu 14- Welcome to the nhk 15- Monster 16- Berserk (1997) 17- Ghost in the shell SAC 18- Aria the animation 19- Mushishi 20- Akage no anne 21- Ie naki ko 22- Hyouge mono 23- Rose of versailles 24- Revolutionary girl utena 25- Mononoke Some anime that can be exchangeable with those on the list: Nana, Gundam: the origin, Kare kano, Turn a gundam, Gosenzo-sama banbanzai, Ojamajo doremi, Monogatari series, Kaiji, Gundam: war in the pocket, Planetes, Space brothers, Princess tutu, Dear brother... , Seirei no moribito, Kemono no souja erin, Kaiba, Vinland saga etc.

[@Wireseason3-4myfavficton]

Ashita no joe is it the two parter sequel

[@adi-qx8ls]

Berserk no.1

[@shawnatlast]

Your 7-8-9 is my 1-2-3. Also Champloo. SAC would be up there too - it's the best scifi i've seen in anime, and the coolest. Love to see Hyouge Mono and Mononoke there. Rarely mentioned

[@joewaldeck]

I’m happy to see IGN has good taste at least by having Yu Yu Hakusho on the list.

[@bluewiz0090]

As someone who grew up with NGE and enjoyt it for what it is, i'm 100% certain that no matter where they put it people will complaint, so the fact that is there is enogh for me.

[@Eukleides89]

The fact that Revolutionary Girl Utena is just an honorable mention actually hurts my soul.

[@DancingMad17]

The fact he didn't even acknowledge Utena hurt my soul.

[@AtlasAdvice254]

All things considered, this list was much better than I thought it would be. There’s the usual annoying IGN shonen inserts, but overall there’s some quality picks

[@Hai43561]

Garnt: I wouldn't put jojo above 15. Puts jojo at 14 on his crunchyroll list Garnt: why is made in abyss so low at 22? Puts made in abyss at 28 on his crunchyroll list Garnt: devilman crybaby shouldn't be above made in abyss and is too high at 15 Puts devilman at 11 on his crunchyroll list Garnt: ping pong is better than devilman Puts ping pong at 26 on his crunchyroll list XD

[@nathanj3528]

How can be put 2 in no 28 spot?

[@mikeelijah3784]

He is trippin on Naruto! Despite its flaws, it is iconic

[@jackaboynaylor9273]

Made in abyss has truly one of the ani-films I have ever seen.

[@GamerFlair]

The problem with lists are that Top, Greatest etc are super subjective. They are ALWAYS going to be biased by a writers personal preference and interpretations of the phrase Top and Greatest. They are also shaped to a certain degree by expected target audience. If you asked me to recommend 10 anime to a massive anime fan, that would very a very difference list to 10 anime I would recommend to someone who has never watched anime. Even very, very good anime shows can be super jarring to people who aren't used to watching anime just due to Japanese culture differences.

[@mercurialblonde]

No show has done what FLCL does. I wish that weren't true. Even from an animation standpoint it has some of the best animators to have ever done it just going ham. It's a one-off masterpiece.

[@guywithasukapfp7835]

yes i agree

[@TheReveredNinja]

Nah, fam. Naruto actually does deserve to be on this list. It has had as much of a cultural impact as Dragon Ball or One Piece.

[@snarpking]

As a big Naruto fan, eeeeeeh, idk. It’s for sure close to being on the list, but I think it’s a tough call.

[@sadoldguy4380]

I suspect that the most we can learn from this IGN list is the relative age of when the writers first got into anime.

[@delix787]

41:03 The moment Gigguk knew he regretted everything!! 🤣

[@halstonconnally1367]

Steins;Gate is my personal #1 but this list also needs Violet Evergarden Monogatari (Season 2 if I have to pick just one) Vinland Sage Shingeki No Bahamut Welcome to the NHK Shin Sekai Yori

[@user-dd5nt5qm5k]

Based taste

[@shir0azure339]

42:56 "WTF has MHA got?", Well, I'd say MHA is right after DBZ and Naruto in terms of influence and popularity. They literally put Deku in Fortnite right after Goku and Naruto.

[@giloguy101]

Gigguk saw My Hero Academia and said "ima choose violence"

[@ausreir]

List was a bit...safe. I think Kaguya-sama after 3 seasons could easily win a spot, as could Mushoku Tensei. Also, I guess nobody on the IGN panel watched the original Legend of Galactic Heroes. Lastly, where's Bokurano? When will it get the love it deserves?

[@SadChatt]

I don’t think the list is that bad honestly, there are a few changes I would make, and some anime I would put in the list. My biggest disagreement would be that AOT should be higher.

[@HebiTan]

I hate how the livechat was just shitting on AOT. They're trying to be based but ended up being cringe

[@gergelykantor4318]

It is really saddening to see how much hate it gets. I know the ending was underwhelming but I don't think they hate it because of that. Most of the haters just hates is because they lost the plot back in Season 2 and don't understand jack shit about it.

[@thomasffrench3639]

@@gergelykantor4318 the anime hasn’t finished, and you can’t judge an anime based on its manga, so it does not come into consideration

[@toxickami]

i can aassure that all of my friend that have watched naruto and hxh , none have ever said that they liked hxh more than naruto.period.

[@saddocatto9245]

Keijo is THE best Sport anime of ALL TIME period..

[@donniethedealer2623]

I’m sorry Garnt, but hip hop and Samurai have been synonymous since way before Champloo. It rose to popularity in the 90s due to the rise of WuTang and Hip Hop. They brought together, Shao Lin Kung Fu, Samurai mindsets and ways of life and mixed it with raw 90s New York hip hop. As well as movies like 1999s Ghost Dog: The Way of the Samurai

[@yosshawt]

Hey Gigguk when are you doing the winter 2023 anime list stream?

[@lienmichael869]

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[@newbie4789]

In WC, Easy group is not a thing... Everyone play with a might that surpasses their levels

[@ironwoodkid9577]

Whoever put AoT on #17, 100% read the manga and knows the ending

[@lienmichael869]

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[@gayanegasparyan4137]

So they have no taste just like you

[@knhgv]

17th place out of all anime is still a good place And ending was good idc

[@joebidenjr5902]

I hope it gets an anime only ending

[@masudbillah6196]

So what? The ending was ok definitely not the best but doesn't ruin Aot as a whole. Everyone can have a opinion. The fanbase are just cancerous crybabies

[@willem8820]

This is definitely one of the lists of all time

[@Eduardo_Torres]

my top 25: GitS SAC eva gurren laggan fma Monster cowboy bebop blue gender hxh Revolutionary girl Utena samurai champloo baccano Hajime no Ippo katanagatari sailor moon steins;gate chihayafuru clannad code geass eureka seven hellsing ultimate death note made in abyss OP dbz turn a gundam

[@kubo-samabanbankai562]

Really great list overall, even though i disagree with some of the choices like blue gender, code geass, death note etc.

[@Eduardo_Torres]

@@kubo-samabanbankai562 for me, Death Note should be included only because of the impact it had on the anime landscape (it was this or naruto for making anime popular in the 00s), code geass I think deserves a place because of the quality of the animation and the ending, and Blue Gender I put here because I think this is one of the seminal seinen anime together with GitS I think this makes for great characters, drama and darkness and it inspired a lot of anime for decades after.

[@Rick-z1y6z]

FLCL being my favourite anime of all time makes me happy to see it getting some recognition

[@brandonechegaray3874]

Literally the greatest anime to me. Not because of its random story but it’s deeper meanings it’s music. Growing up made me realize what the anime meant to me

[@Rick-z1y6z]

@@brandonechegaray3874 yeah exactly. The story and characters resonated with me so much. I've rewatched it multiple times and never ceases to amaze me.

[@newbie4789]

Chihayafuru... The name feels soo synonymous with ProZD for me

[@budthecyborg4575]

Mushoku Tensei absolutely deserves to be on any top 25 list. Season 2 should be a banger.

[@RionAgrias]

I want to see how they animate Vol. 12 first, and a lot of people are worried about the University arc's pacing. It's probably way too controversial for IGN or any journalism site.

[@budthecyborg4575]

@@RionAgrias I feel like most of that would compress pretty easily, but I do worry they might just spend the first half on the university and only get to the rescue in the second arc. Ideally they'll do the rescue in arc 1 and cover the diary in arc 2.

[@newbie4789]

I immediately got the respect of IGN back when I saw Mob there🔥🔥🔥🔥 Just for a second though coz the whole list before it came back to my memory

[@Ty6260]

I swear Garnt and Connor have THE MOST annoying chats. Luckily Joey's chat is pretty normal but good god

[@coins_png]

curious, how so? i thought that was just like every twitch chat

[@lienmichael869]

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[@EREMIKA7866]

Exactly his fanbase are just toxic critics that love to talk shit about peoples favorite animes same goes with garnt

[@philo2189]

You haven't seen hasanabi chat lmao

[@Eclin]

@@coins_png just my opinion, but the average twitch chat looks very uninviting lmao.

[@sora2541]

1:02:42 I agree Garnt, even if the ending kinda suck AOT would still be S tier ... unless, the ending somehow retcon the entire point of the story, Eren's actions made no sense and out of character, leave the conflict between Paradis and Marley unsolved just so that they can potentially milk the series more than they already did in the future .... Unless that happen, the show is definitely S tier, but anyway, I'm sure that's not gonna happen, right? ...right?

[@joeco9513]

Gurren Lagann, prolly the hardest snub I've ever seen. Especially considering there was like no mecha/superRobot here.

[@Amaling]

At this point I kinda wanna avoid calling myself an anime fan to people who aren't friends of mine (unless I'm wearing merch or a series gets brought up or whatever), not because of embarrassment or anything like that, but of not wanting to be associated with shonen junkies. I've seen/read most of the shonen series they mentioned to at least some extent, but good god man there's so much more to the world of anime than this. FOURTEEN of the top 25 are straight up shonen manga adaptations, and this doesn't even feel like an unreasonable representation of the anime discussion I see on the english web. Other series have fragments of discussion in comparison. The other 11 slots are split across genres, anime originals etc. Like there's only ONE shoujou adaptation, ONE seinen adaptation, ONE light novel adaptation (despite how everpresent we deeper in the anime fandom may feel they are), ZERO visual novel adaptations, god forbid any jousei adaptations. It's just depressing man. So by the end, it's really not surprising to see the number one slot held by the consensus "yeah we like this one" shounen anime... Also, the honourable mentions are of higher quality on average than the top 25 lmao

[@ShotterGames]

That's why I would never try to get in a conversation about anime outside of the internet, if someone in your class or whatever is talking about anime, the only way of actually getting some kinda of conversation is talking about a shounen, finding someone to discuss something like the Monogatari series at random must be like finding a bag of money in the middle of the road.

[@lienmichael869]

chant NAM MYO HO REN GE KYO this is only way to be happy convert to nichiren shoshu

[@Amaling]

@@ShotterGames and even then, I'd classify Monogatari anime as fairly-really popular amongst anime fans in the list of non-shonens. Imagine finding someone to talk about any anime from the 20th century not named Evangelion Akira Dragon Ball Ghost in the shell...

[@thomasffrench3639]

Shonen is the biggest manga demographic, so it makes a lot of sense. Not to mention the target of anime is teenagers

[@royalfun1031]

Cope No matter how much shit u watch u go back to shonen

[@delix787]

54:41 True for me too. Orginal Naruto is godly!!

[@chrisneff5383]

Hey garnt are you excited to play Genshin yugioh in the 3.3 update

[@juansosa1095]

Ahhh Samurai shamploo and grant saying this? Jimmy would be proud

[@Tattednerd23]

My hero season 6 going hard 🔥🔥

[@APAMVs]

1:42:40 You ain't wrong. Saw evangelion this year (all of the films too) and man.. it's perfect

[@Amaling]

End of Evangelion is absolute peak fiction peak media whatever you wanna call it, will never leave me.

[@lienmichael869]

chant NAM MYO HO REN GE KYO this is only way to be happy convert to nichiren shoshu

[@frawstey281]

hospital scene w

[@ncp9095]

Damn right it is

[@APAMVs]

@@frawstey281 oh god noo

[@maxfoley4840]

"Code Geass Season 2 is a car accident that managed to parallel park" - Gigguk. Top 25 anime description of all time

[@newbie4789]

Japan played with a might that makes you love them. I enjoy watching them a lot

[@ChrisVanMiddelkoop]

You are wrong about flcl. I am really curious what shows you say did it better than flcl.

[@TBoneTony]

I would say a personal list of top 100 anime of a certain year. Therefore I would have a scope of what to cover as well as allowing more Anime out there to have their time in the sun regardless of how old or new they are.

[@newbie4789]

YES YES YES.... Mushoku Tensei looks soo much potential

[@anugrahshrestha8208]

Nauto deserves to be there if Dragon Ball Z and One Piece are. The impact on the anime culture and industry it has is huge. It is easily the most well known and popular out of the Big 3. I'd put all of them and DBZ in 20-25

[@mookiestewart3776]

I agree naruto deserved to be there , the show was a damn cultural revolution when it was really hitting . However I like part 1 more than shippuden

[@shubhamrathod3919]

According to that logic bleach should also be here.

[@paulcatindig2260]

@@shubhamrathod3919 nope actually. His logic is sound. Bleach rarely NEVER ranked above Naruto, dragon ball or one piece in terms of popularity and is the worst reviewed out of the 4. In fact, it got so bad during the serialization of blood war arc, it got cancelled by shonen jump and the anime was put on hold for a decade and was effectively cancelled. It’s the only one of the 4 that has that happen to it lmao

[@shubhamrathod3919]

@@paulcatindig2260 Okay

[@anugrahshrestha8208]

@@shubhamrathod3919 It should. But they should all be between 20-25. Maybe have one of them slightly above.

[@TBoneTony]

Neon Genesis is iconic, one of the first Anime I saw that was aimed for a mature audience after all the younger audience stuff I watched on TV early in the mornings before going to school. So Neon Genesis was up there for being iconic of showing Anime aimed for a teenager and older audiences. Also include Bubblegum Crisis both the 80s version and the late 90s Bubblegum Crisis Tokyo 2040 on that list too. For Magical Girl fans, Sailor Moon is iconic enough to be up there as well as Demon Hunter Yoko for comparison for a mature version of a 90s Magical Girl series. I think the top one should be Eiken OVA as that was classic series that was worth a good laugh and a half.

[@thomasffrench3639]

I’m pretty sure Gundam was the first anime to show that anime could be for older audiences. Yeah Lupin III came first, but that was only an outlier and was more comedic.

[@TBoneTony]

@@thomasffrench3639 Good point, Gundam was really important when it comes to Sci Fi Anime released around the time of Star Wars original trilogy during the early 80s. However I think the indie VHS scene was too small to really make much of an impact and sadly for me, the Gundam movies were never on TV at the time where I lived.

[@kubo-samabanbankai562]

@@thomasffrench3639 It depends what you are talking about, i mean like in terms of what? Tv anime or films? The first "mature" tv anime i would say is the first "ecchi" anime Sennin Buraku, if we don't count ecchi then it would be Sabu to Ichi Torimono Hikae. For films, it would be A Thousand and One Nights i think. It is the first erotic anime film, not an H though, because the genre wasn't created until the creation of OVAs in the 80s (first H is actually a loli anime lol, it's called "Lolita Anime").

[@Shinius]

People clown on MHA, but good GOD does it do numbers in the west. People who don't watch anime watch MHA. Edit: Also I hate how everyone acts like shit talking MHA is some act of bravery, when everyone shit talks MHA now.

[@randompolygon8401]

I mean, I personally like it more than jjk and a LOT more than demon slayer. I think it's main problem is that it's adaptation is not nearly as good as the modern shounen standard.

[@cluster4583]

Ye i can tell garnt really doesn't see the charm of it of how well written every character is it completely immerses you into its world if you're emotionally invested into it you can see it being entertaining

[@CheknoEternity]

Weebs: Why isn’t the anime I love that makes everyone think I’m a weirdo not on this list.

[@SavageNextDoor]

you know how much an anime hipster you have to be to be mad at Naruto being at number 19… craziness

[@royalfun1031]

Huh

[@royalfun1031]

It ain't even 1900

[@delix787]

When DBZ fans say, without dragon ball there would be no big 3. I’m like yeah you’re talking about from a history perspective. But not from a writing point of view!!

[@mookiestewart3776]

Dragonball isn’t nearly as shallow as people say. There is quite a bit of clashing ideologies and self improvement subtext when you rewatch

[@thomasffrench3639]

@@mookiestewart3776 it’s definitely not deep, but the themes about self improvement really resonate. It’s really well executed.

[@royalfun1031]

That's all they can say

[@thomasffrench3639]

@@royalfun1031 give me manga with better paneling, I’ll wait.

[@nivnavion]

@@thomasffrench3639 Damn, you still waiting. And I am glad someone mentioned this, in my opinion, Akira Toriyama is the single best mangaka when it comes to paneling, the panels follow a natural direction and flow with absolute fluidity to the point where it feels like you are reading a flip book.

[@gmsimon]

My underrated anime of this season is definitely Raven Escort.

[@neondarkcro697]

Actual popularity contest.

[@lienmichael869]

chant NAM MYO HO REN GE KYO this is only way to be happy convert to nichiren shoshu

[@MrGalath]

My Hero was one of the Academia’s of all time

[@sofkitty878]

The amount of drinking between sentences is maddening

[@forthelichkingsname]

this IGN list felt like an netflix ad.

[@sweetpixiesmile]

A bunch of dudes be duding, not so surprising. No SoL, no romcom, no historical, no isekai, no yuri / yaoi, no mahou shoujo, no music, no food, no parody, no multimedia, no folklore. I think they stuck in some really popular shonen just to appease the shonen fanboys - I mean, Narutard is a label for a reason lol. I still remember being lectured on "properly" pronouncing Naruto by 10 year olds, as an adult anime veteran.

[@thomasffrench3639]

Garnt Attack on Titan is not a Seinen. It literally stars a teenage boy.

[@manolgeorgiev9664]

More like a delusional teenage psychopath with violent tendencies

[@jrgabriel9818]

Okay we leave the topic of Guts girl alright? We don't mention that ever.

[@gabrielcaro]

Naruto is a good show, and a good manga. It deserves to be on the top 20 spot. Say what you want about NARUTO, It’s impact on culture cannot be ingnored.

[@JetSetDex]

In my opinion, unless an anime is done, it shouldn't qualify for greatest of all time. As we all know from Game of Thrones, a bad ending can retroactively make the rest of the story near unwatchable since you know it isn't leading up to anything good.

[@mansourhaddad398]

The fucking slander on Dragon ball Z is something I wasn't expecting his perspective is clearly biased on the british expérience as DBZ has shaped generations of animé fans all over the world

[@deyon100]

Anime lists are definitely not easy to do I need to see Garnt’s list I trust you will do a Stella job since your horizons are definitely more broader 👍

[@delix787]

The problem when it comes to judging a shonen from a writing point of view, and judging it from a nostalgic front of view. Everyone is going to rank them differently depending what they mean to you. Not necessary because we grew up with them. But sometimes you just don’t care too much about all of them. Like Naruto means a lot to me. But not because I grew up with it, but it’s also because the characters did a lot for me compared to other series. Something like HXH or or Yu Yu. I enjoyed them but I don’t love them. And if they happen to be better written then most shonen out there. That’s completely OK to give credit where credit is due. But at the end of the day if these series mean nothing to me and the characters didn’t do anything for me either. Then I’m not obligated to love the same show or rank it higher just because someone else found more value into it then me.

[@anivey2111]

HxH York New ark is letrally masterpiece ya also dude HxH had some deep characters I get it's not pg-13 but ya, Unless u haven't watched it.

[@newbie4789]

One reason why shounens come at the top of these lists made by people outside of anime fandom I think is that Shounen show type is the one thing that is almost exclusively good in anime media. Most other genres like Drama, slice of life, sci-fi, and even seinen stuff are much more general. Western tv shows, Hollywood movies, and other media all have these other genre but Shounen. And that's why I think Shounen is the entry point for people into anime and why shounen are the ones that get a big name outside the community

[@adi-qx8ls]

Bro shonen isn't so special many teen animated american shows have those tropes and aspects that shonen have.

[@budthecyborg4575]

They hit One Piece at #3 and now I'm like "Oh good, the top two spots are obviously reserved for Ghost in the Shell and Gundam Wing, no need to look at the rest of the list".

[@marchbelongee]

The audacity of not putting Stein's gate under top 5 🗿

[@andrewgerardo2349]

Wing?!?! G is obviously better but best Gundam has to go to 0079!

[@budthecyborg4575]

@@andrewgerardo2349 Aren't there four Gundam series in the 0079 period?

[@thomasffrench3639]

@@budthecyborg4575 are you talking about the in universe year 0079 or the entire Universal Century? Because the entire timeline has like 15 shows

[@budthecyborg4575]

@@thomasffrench3639 The watch order list that I found lists "Mobile Suit Gundam" "08th MS Team" "MS Igloo" and "Gundam Thunderbolt" all under the year 0079.

[@Tattednerd23]

My hero is top after end of season 6😊

[@apiclegend4760]

Get out of here

[@iwatchDVDsonXbox360]

Never understood why FLCL is so beloved. Maybe, because it's Gainax? Detective Conan was airing at the same time and i think he was better, but DC is not on the list.

[@LilShepherdBoy]

The fact that people in his chat are calling DBZ a "gym bro" anime is so sad man.

[@guilhemgalceranrial4085]

It can be a "gym bro" or your "childhood" but that doenst make it a good anime, simple plot, train, enemy, beated, next enemy, train, beated (insert color transformation and you got it)

[@thomasffrench3639]

@@guilhemgalceranrial4085 Dragon Ball is good, deal with it.

[@royalfun1031]

@@thomasffrench3639 It is not Deal

[@thomasffrench3639]

@@royalfun1031 so you don’t like masterful paneling? Then what manga is good?

[@landenward5083]

When he means different genres he means the “cultured” ones….

[@Nanu67-e9j]

It's hard for me to find an anime I really like but I for some reason adore super sonico.. most underrated television show in history.. super Sonico and her band rocking out is some of the best in television history..

[@jacklee3998]

Shoutout to anyone who saw him mention sports anime and thought about ashita no joe. So underrated

[@randompolygon8401]

does megalo box count?

[@lienmichael869]

chant NAM MYO HO REN GE KYO this is only way to be happy convert to nichiren shoshu

[@philo2189]

@@randompolygon8401 yeah it's literally about boxing lmao

[@thomasffrench3639]

Yeah Garnt doesn’t watch old anime “because they haven’t aged well” when a lot of it has aged well.

[@ReinatakaharaVT]

Ign is full of that one guy saw all the basic shows and put all 25 of them on the list without watching anymore then 25 . Not saying there's anything wrong with only liking a couple shows but to make a top 25 you'll need to at least watch 100 plus shows.

[@SamTheGumMan117]

IGN grades games bad enough as is but I can't wait to see how terrifying their weeb list of the top 25 is oof

[@lienmichael869]

chant NAM MYO HO REN GE KYO this is only way to be happy convert to nichiren shoshu

[@zelasd3125]

Can't spell ignorant without IGN.

[@dou5397]

I was hoping to see Kaiji but oh well, also the more i rewatch FMAB the better it gets