Girl Abducted Walking Home from Halloween Party | Shauna Howe Case Analysis

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Dr. Todd Grande

Dr. Todd Grande

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@loiskondo8349
@loiskondo8349 Жыл бұрын
I have no sympathy for these hideous men. I don’t think child molesters should ever be free.Thank you Dr. Grande for covering this.
@kathybates1751
@kathybates1751 Жыл бұрын
No they need to be castrated and locked up forever.
@rosemarymcgrory-eb2gd
@rosemarymcgrory-eb2gd Жыл бұрын
I totally agree with you .. The law must change
@red_five3325
@red_five3325 Жыл бұрын
The only reason any of them should be free is if it turned out they were innocent, like if they were misidentified or deliberately framed. Even then, someone else should take his/her place - like the real child molester or the one/s who set him/her up.
@chuckrobinson599
@chuckrobinson599 Жыл бұрын
The fastest growing demographic of criminals is the female child molester. Equality you know.
@kathywright7395
@kathywright7395 Жыл бұрын
Why oh why do we let sexual predators loose ? Can we not see depravity when it’s forced on a small child ? I don’t get.
@hearliestheglobe8423
@hearliestheglobe8423 Жыл бұрын
I Will tell you why child molesters are let loose/protected in prison, are you ready?... Its because it is a sickening indulgence that people (if you can call them that) from every level of society partake in. From the poor right up to the elite & it's at the very top where it is at its most rampant & depraved but very well organised & hidden, hidden to an extent anyway. If these rich & well connected types do find themselves having to do a stretch inside then they make sure there are measures in place so that they always get out & as quickly as possible & are protected while in prison...an insurance policy if you will. Just Google "Labour 25" & you may be shocked at just how many politicians in my country have been convicted & when released are welcomed back into the party by their mates with open arms & no further consequences, huh no wonder they call them parties hey? Have a good day & all the best ❤
@janeoleary8454
@janeoleary8454 Жыл бұрын
We live in a sick world
@stardust4225
@stardust4225 Жыл бұрын
Oh they can be rehabilitated. According to some a pedophile can become a normal average person who just wants a typical average life with a partner, kids, white picket fence.
@fairytalepurityanalyser6056
@fairytalepurityanalyser6056 Жыл бұрын
It's Jewmerican policy. Same tactics was used at the Battle Of Berlin in 1945 by the Jewmerican Bolsheviks of the Soviet Union.
@janeoleary8454
@janeoleary8454 Жыл бұрын
@@stardust4225 I'm assuming that's a joke
@glendasully
@glendasully Жыл бұрын
That poor little innocent girl. God rest her soul
@MarioDSLife
@MarioDSLife 9 ай бұрын
God rest her soul? Why did he not stop that violent crime from happening then?
@williammcgeehan3424
@williammcgeehan3424 Жыл бұрын
All three should have gotten the death penalty.
@Sputterbug
@Sputterbug Жыл бұрын
disagree. the death penalty is actually more expensive than life in prison and there's no garuntee they live long enough to be executed bc it takes so long, with appeals and all the paper work and such. it's better to let them suffer for years than to quickly end their life, imo, anyway.
@supersarah5673
@supersarah5673 Жыл бұрын
@@Sputterbugit shouldn’t be more expensive. I’m sure a lot of people would be willing to kill them for free
@supersarah5673
@supersarah5673 Жыл бұрын
@@Sputterbugplus it’s not about the money, just the certainty that these … disgusting vile abominations will never strike again. Ever.
@MarioDSLife
@MarioDSLife 9 ай бұрын
All valid points.
@thelocalmaladroit8873
@thelocalmaladroit8873 Жыл бұрын
Every hour of every day predators are out there. Never ever let your guard down.
@polarbearsrus6980
@polarbearsrus6980 Жыл бұрын
And teach your kids how to behave to appear less vulnerable.🥺 Glad I'm not a kid today. Her poor mother.
@Sputterbug
@Sputterbug Жыл бұрын
​@polarbearsrus6980 appear vulnerable? all kids look vulnerable to predators. let's teach people not to be predators instead of pushing responsibility onto kids. though I do think kids ought to know self defense and how to get away. once you get into appearances, it leads to a whole slew of toxic expectations, especially for girls.
@rullvox5912
@rullvox5912 Жыл бұрын
Police making stupid mistakes like not double-checking suspects jail records drives me wack, especially in cases that involve children.
@Neilsowards
@Neilsowards Жыл бұрын
I think Dr. Grande is a little bit hard on the police investigation. They did a lot. They tested more than 100 men's DNA. It is easy to have hindsight about what should have been done when you are looking at it afterward. I think the police did the best they could. You can always find gaps that should have been done. Just my opinion.
@melissadavis225
@melissadavis225 Жыл бұрын
Yes it happens in all cases my daughter died in a fire and the police work done in her case is beyond unbelievable..
@StAlphonsusHasAPosse
@StAlphonsusHasAPosse Жыл бұрын
​@@melissadavis225I'm so sorry. Blessings to you and for your daughter's precious soul
@youcantdiealonewithcats
@youcantdiealonewithcats Жыл бұрын
It would've been so easy, just to check! It's so careless. It's like they really didn't care
@rullvox5912
@rullvox5912 Жыл бұрын
@@youcantdiealonewithcats ..Ya, lazy and inept.
@ancientromewithamy
@ancientromewithamy Жыл бұрын
I went to school with her back then. She was a nice girl. There is a memorial for her at the local public pool now that the family had made with the money that was supposed to go to the reward for information, I think. A pavilion and a stone with an engraved plate on it is at the pool, and there have been candlelight walks and other types of memorials. We had our Halloween activities in the daytime for years afterwards in the 90s.
@kathybates1751
@kathybates1751 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for letting us know more about her.
@ancientromewithamy
@ancientromewithamy Жыл бұрын
@@kathybates1751 I have a clipping somewhere that I liked, in which her mother talks about things like her favorite music, which is a nicer way to remember her.
@viviansnead4886
@viviansnead4886 Жыл бұрын
Thank you, Dr. Grande. Could you analyze the case of the 14-year-old Indigenous girl who disappeared recently and was found at Camp Pendleton. One Marine has been arrested, as I understand. Security allowed her to be brought on base, where she was human trafficked. Her trauma needs attention, and those involved, punished. Camp leadership is blaming her and has called her an "underage prostitute." A 14-year-old cannot give consent. Her abuse is horrific.
@SirenaSpades
@SirenaSpades Жыл бұрын
It sounds like we need to learn more about what happened.
@buschovski1
@buschovski1 Жыл бұрын
theres an MSNBC video from a day ago. Did u watch it? i assume you did. Theres a oart about Camp Pendleton being involved in a drug and sex trafficking case in 2020 also. Anyway i wonder what the girl has said about it. Id like to know.
@esteemedmortal5917
@esteemedmortal5917 Жыл бұрын
Regardless, there is NO good or lawful reason to transport a minor who you do not have guardianship over. Sickening.
@theunforgiven2885
@theunforgiven2885 Жыл бұрын
Yes please do this case and You need to do a case into the . Missing Indigenous woman as a whole..Why are there so many missing
@arinerm1331
@arinerm1331 Жыл бұрын
@@esteemedmortal5917 It seems to me that when you take a minor across state lines it becomes a federal crime. When the Marine took the girl onto federal property, the same rule should apply. It's also a military crime, so the Marine could be punished twice; once by the military, and once by civilian authorities. Believe it or not, this does **NOT** violate the 5th Amendment.
@JasKhalid
@JasKhalid Жыл бұрын
I feel sad for the mother. forgetting to organise your child’s pickup that lead to their murder will haunt you forever
@syvonnie15
@syvonnie15 Жыл бұрын
Or at least at the point take her yourself
@georgezimmerman3334
@georgezimmerman3334 Жыл бұрын
her friend walked home too so it obviously wasn't that crappy of a move.
@comradeballin
@comradeballin Жыл бұрын
She didn’t forget. She just didn’t bother arranging it. Many in the midwest are still like that, and it’s usually bc they’re lazy and careless
@comradeballin
@comradeballin Жыл бұрын
Well at least thats my experience in ohio anyway.
@amandamarshall1204
@amandamarshall1204 Жыл бұрын
I walked home all the time the 80s and early 90s were a different time.
@mowabb
@mowabb Жыл бұрын
The part about her asking the friend to walk her all the way home cause she was scared got me. It’s an awful thing to have a bad feeling about something scary happening and then it happens. Can only imagine what was going through her mind when he grabbed her.
@MarioDSLife
@MarioDSLife 9 ай бұрын
The problem is the damn society. People should be able to walk home without fear due to things like this.
@isabelledetaillefer2726
@isabelledetaillefer2726 Жыл бұрын
I just watched Jim Caviezel telling why he told his sister that her teenage daughter can NOT walk home to and from school, or anywhere, for that matter. His research into the role as Tim Ballard in Sound of Freedom was an eye opener on how dangerous things are for children today.
@Laura-tp8wz
@Laura-tp8wz Жыл бұрын
Everyone should see that movie. 🙏❤
@susanwilliams4953
@susanwilliams4953 Жыл бұрын
So sad, rest in peace Shauna. I hope your mom forgives herself & heal.
@pezeron24
@pezeron24 Жыл бұрын
As a foreigner, I don't understand the American justice system. On one hand, people have been getting life for selling weed; on the other hand, sexual predator can be released on bail and commit more crimes. It looks like the US justice system goes from unexplainably punitive to incomprehensibly lenient.
@dogtrainer4645
@dogtrainer4645 Жыл бұрын
As an American, I don't understand it either. Prison sentences don't always fit the crimes. Also justice is not evenly handed out, based on where it occurs and the accused's race, among other things.
@cee-emm
@cee-emm Жыл бұрын
Our justice system is full of pedophiles and those who cover for them. Hope this cleared things up for you.
@InfiniteBoxworks
@InfiniteBoxworks Жыл бұрын
America has kid diddlers in the highest echelons of government and political power. Can't crack down too hard on their own suppliers. The CPS and DCFS are involved in the biggest child sex trafficking ring in the country.
@MadeByChinkee
@MadeByChinkee Жыл бұрын
Ohhhh... don't even... 😅😅😅 They will even protect and glorify groomers. As long as you do it out in the open, like letting your eggplant hang loose for the children on the street to see, it's ok. 👌 Their children are not allowed to drink before a certain age, but they are allowed to chop off some body parts as underage without parents' consent. 😆
@sabrinashelton1997
@sabrinashelton1997 Жыл бұрын
@@dogtrainer4645 gag
@AndriaBieberDesigns
@AndriaBieberDesigns Жыл бұрын
Cannot even imagine the horror that poor little girl went through.
@wendybond2848
@wendybond2848 Жыл бұрын
I can’t believe the sloppy police work. How many people did they harm before they were caught? I would hate to live in that town.
@JaxonSmithers
@JaxonSmithers Жыл бұрын
The last thing any normal older guy wants is kids running around in his house. That alone should have put him on everyone’s radar.
@WorldOfEnchantment44
@WorldOfEnchantment44 Жыл бұрын
To the mother of this beautiful little girl: I hope you have found peace. Your loss is insurmountable, but it was an honest mistake. I pray you don’t beat yourself up, but live in the love and memory of your beautiful daughter. She would want you to find peace and celebrate her memory every day. Thank you for bringing her into this world. It is a better place because she was in it 💕
@jabrayjay6679
@jabrayjay6679 Жыл бұрын
This is lovely ❤
@sngray11
@sngray11 Жыл бұрын
I remember watching a documentary or episode on this heartbreaking case. Thankfully Shauna finally received the justice that she deserved. Rest in peace Shauna. 💗
@davidphuggins
@davidphuggins Жыл бұрын
"This was the old 'Halloween Kidnapping Prank' that some many generations have enjoyed. It was just like 'Trick or Treating', but the trick was a felony." I LOOOOOOVE Dr. Grande!
@Victoria-m2z2c
@Victoria-m2z2c Жыл бұрын
Play fight with your children, teach them how to seriously injure someone if they try to put their hands on them. The fingers in the eyes, private areas, bite, scream every cuss word at the top of their lungs. When people hear children scream cuss words they will pay attention. It's an unfortunate situation but I feel for the mother. I couldn't live with myself. It is a devastating tragedy
@alarmactionukalarmactionuk893
@alarmactionukalarmactionuk893 Жыл бұрын
Also the shin scrape is a good deterrent as it is very painful for an assailant.
@red_five3325
@red_five3325 Жыл бұрын
As practical as that sounds, I unfortunately see a flaw with this plan. Your child may use their newfound skills to harm INNOCENT people, maliciously or otherwise. A non-malicious example would be is if someone tried to hug them, whether they be an adult or another child, and they mistake it for a kidnapping attempt. You might want to teach your kid what constitutes a kidnapping attempt and what doesn't. However, if your child is a bully, has anger problems, and/or is outright evil, expect their victim count to multiply. Worse, s/he may LIE about a kidnapping attempt afterwards if caught. How would you address this? Would you warn that there will be consequences (that actually hurt and you plan on enforcing) for hurting the wrong person?
@Sputterbug
@Sputterbug Жыл бұрын
​@robinantonio8870 they might pay attention but they also might just run away.
@N8Dulcimer
@N8Dulcimer Жыл бұрын
@@robinantonio8870 I would love to know what psychopath invented this one. Obviously, it has never been more effective to yell fire or cuss words. If a child is screaming for help, people take that extremely seriously. WHy are we pretending that's not true?
@HeyJudie
@HeyJudie 5 ай бұрын
@@red_five3325 I see another issue with OP's suggestion. Physically disadvantaged victims can further provoke their assailants, causing further physical abuse and damage by trying to fight back or yell out. My sensei taught me to RUN before ever fighting, as my winning the fight (even if well trained) was unlikely given my size. The evidence bears his suggestion out.
@MyEnemy
@MyEnemy Жыл бұрын
"Sometimes offenders can be so audacious, it can actually increase their chances of getting away with a crime." Such a great point, and one that is lost on us, much of the time.
@Neechiemoose102
@Neechiemoose102 Жыл бұрын
This case gets me every time. Absolutely horrific 💔
@andrewdewit4711
@andrewdewit4711 Жыл бұрын
Hoping the O’Brien animals found some justice behind bars from other prisoners.
@Sputterbug
@Sputterbug Жыл бұрын
we're all animals
@jctrock
@jctrock Жыл бұрын
Your description about the girl being kidnapped and thrown in the dry riverbed was so clear.. I was crying internally for this little girl. May she rest in the arms of Jesus Christ.
@MarioDSLife
@MarioDSLife 9 ай бұрын
Why couldn’t Jesus Christ have protected her from this violent crime?
@MakerInMotion
@MakerInMotion Жыл бұрын
I'm from the same generation as Shauna and we used to ride our bikes or walk all over town. I just had to be home by 6:30 for dinner. Looking back, we were sitting ducks for predators. "Helicopter parenting" has its negative effects, but creeps with rusty window-less vans have a hard time finding kids to abduct because of it.
@Reeeeeee12345
@Reeeeeee12345 Жыл бұрын
What's helicopter parenting?
@dogtrainer4645
@dogtrainer4645 Жыл бұрын
​@@Reeeeeee12345parents who micro manage their childs' lives.
@MakerInMotion
@MakerInMotion Жыл бұрын
@@Reeeeeee12345 It's where you keep your kids under constant supervision.
@Dily2004
@Dily2004 Жыл бұрын
Do they though? A majority of predators by far are family members, so locking kids up inside would do nothing to protect them.
@lorettaprice8167
@lorettaprice8167 Жыл бұрын
​@@Reeeeeee12345The term comes from helicopter because the parents are always "hovering" . Like a helicopter.
@susanohnhaus611
@susanohnhaus611 Жыл бұрын
Anxiously awaiting an evaluation of the (alleged) serial killer Rex Heuerman.I worked in the justice system all my adult life and your evaluations are thorough and well done. People need to understand what kind of people are out there who only mean us harm.
@breathnstop
@breathnstop Жыл бұрын
Every case highlights the laziness and incompetence of the police.
@aquarius5461
@aquarius5461 Жыл бұрын
I should imagine her poor mother regrets not organising a lift for her daughter, these evil men should not be able to breathe the same oxygen as most decent people. Thanks Dr Grande.
@jodybrown4956
@jodybrown4956 Жыл бұрын
Pagan holidays = wicked outcome not harmless fun .
@N8Dulcimer
@N8Dulcimer Жыл бұрын
@@jodybrown4956 Ah yes nothing more wicked than *checks notes* a fall harvest festival! A PARTY? to celebrate HAVING FOOD??? Godless heathens.
@HexagonFL
@HexagonFL Жыл бұрын
Thanks Dr. Grande. Exquisitely delivered case analysis as usual. This case is disturbing and mind boggling.
@gcham1209
@gcham1209 Жыл бұрын
Of all his vids I've watched I loveeeeee 98% of them. Because of my disability I have comprehension and memory issues. Occasionally I have to re-watch some vids because of the length. But the vast majority of his vids have awesome delivery. I know I sound critical. But still. I wish I didn't have to rewatch. But if only given the option I'd have no issue with rewatching any vid he posts
@HexagonFL
@HexagonFL Жыл бұрын
@@gcham1209 I’m constantly rewinding parts that I didn’t comprehend, especially about the plots and characters names, so I know how it is. “Listening” comprehension is not necessarily my forte either, but once I get everything memorized it’s highly entertaining. I’ve been watching him going on 3 years 👍
@gcham1209
@gcham1209 Жыл бұрын
@@HexagonFL approximately the same. Awhile before one of my best friends passed away. She passed on November 28th 2022. She used to hit me up with a few of Dr Grande's vids. I then told her I already subscribed. Lolz. Goshdarn I miss her
@KatKPatterson
@KatKPatterson Жыл бұрын
This little girl is my my best friend’s cousin. I remember the whole family and how heartbroken they all were when she was found dead. As any family would be. It is still sad but my BF remembers Shauna and her death every year. Oil City isn’t a place that we ever thought would harbor such evil. I guess any place, small town or not is a place where crime could happen. God bless you Shauna! You are loved and missed!!
@quarteracreadventures855
@quarteracreadventures855 Жыл бұрын
That mother will never be able to forgive herself. It was an innocent mistake that led to a completely unpredictable tragedy. My heart goes out to her
@ForestGirlTeresa
@ForestGirlTeresa Жыл бұрын
Shauna had only 11 years on the planet before her life was extinguished by these horrifying creatures. It is terrible that such evil exists.
@YayMiko
@YayMiko Жыл бұрын
Poor poor girl… she must have been so scared, what a terrible thing
@TheDealMaster
@TheDealMaster Жыл бұрын
Wow this is awful. Mom has got to be haunted by this due to the lack of organization in having her picked up. The police did a LOUSY job, btw.
@sharonwheat3659
@sharonwheat3659 Жыл бұрын
Why didn't er father arrange to have the child picked up from the party? Why is it that the mother is always named as the at-fault party unless it is wholly obvious that the father is to blame?
@sweatergod5386
@sweatergod5386 Жыл бұрын
Obvious subconscious reasons
@tripledair
@tripledair Жыл бұрын
I def appreciate the freedom/independence I had growing up in the early 90s. Got chased by dogs, bullies, crazy neighbors, few abduction attempts…wild times.
@davhot4107
@davhot4107 Жыл бұрын
"Hey kid there is free candy on the back of my van, hop up!"
@barbieblue3336
@barbieblue3336 Жыл бұрын
You are a male
@meritorioustechnate9455
@meritorioustechnate9455 Жыл бұрын
The west has too much freedom. Too many individuals. Too many titles…limited freedom is the best option here, and was always inevitable.
@tripledair
@tripledair Жыл бұрын
@@davhot4107 I had this exact experience while walking to the store one day. Was a van with 2 guys in it. The guy in the back asked where I was going, I told him. He asked what I'm going to buy, I told him. Then he's like "no need to walk all the way to the store, we've got Twix right here". All of my little 9yr old intuition was like "mmmnah I think I'm good"
@JohnDoe-vy5hh
@JohnDoe-vy5hh Жыл бұрын
Poor little girl. I can't imagine the horror for three days. How TF do we get people like these three monsters?
@acdcmiami
@acdcmiami Жыл бұрын
Poor little girl.
@wendiwonderly1419
@wendiwonderly1419 Жыл бұрын
This may be off topic but when someone is a danger to the community they should not have bail at any price. Low level non violent crimes could wear an ankle monitor and avoid pre trial detention. We are the only country in the world that allows for profit bail other than the phillipines. I don’t think we should be emulating a third world authoritarian government. Those brothers never should have been out of prison that day
@Sputterbug
@Sputterbug Жыл бұрын
you say that, but there's plenty of cases where the perpetrator was not the one the police took into custody. the point of bail is to make sure they are nearby for the court case. it's also to make sure a defendant can maintain their freedom while on trial. everyone has a right to a fair trial, even if you personally think they're guilty or not guilty. so even if it seems pretty obvious they did it (like in this case), they are not guilty until proven so beyond a reasonable doubt by a jury.
@growing.grounds4054
@growing.grounds4054 Жыл бұрын
Hey dr grande idk if you’ll see this comment but I really appreciate your content and hard work I look forward to these vids nightly
@jackiemcmeekin6551
@jackiemcmeekin6551 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for covering this criminal case. You cover criminal behavior and it’s perpetrators in an analytical way. This is why I and so many on uTube listen to you frequently. Thank you. 🤔👍
@cathyosullivan718
@cathyosullivan718 Жыл бұрын
If her friend had walked Shauna home, she may have been the one who got grabbed.
@Sputterbug
@Sputterbug Жыл бұрын
or neither of them. but we won't know bc it didn't happen
@amberhansen3806
@amberhansen3806 Жыл бұрын
I just moved from Oil city PA to California Shauna's brother unfortunately died last week
@OzymandiasWasRight
@OzymandiasWasRight Жыл бұрын
"Oh it was just a prank? Well excuse us for the accusations. You're free to go you loveable rascal! And might we add.... hilarious prank."
@Maui_Gyrl_
@Maui_Gyrl_ Жыл бұрын
I remember seeing this case on tv. It really sickened me bc how could you torture a child??🤦🏾‍♀️
@NelsonClick
@NelsonClick Жыл бұрын
OMG! An 11 year old girl abducted off a street at night by grown men and kept alive for three days being abused before being thrown off a bridge still alive. Forfeited all human privileges. Prison and throw away the key. Crime so terrible there can be no possibility of redemption. I wonder what these brothers Mother would have to say about this.
@wsidechris
@wsidechris Жыл бұрын
"I wonder what these brothers Mother would have to say about this" -- this is a question you probably don't want the answer to. If you've seen enough of these videos, then you know there are many times when the parents of killers will enrage you. There is a difference between unconditional love and doing the right thing, and some parents cannot keep them separate. Recent examples are the parents of Brian Laundrie, Aiden Fucci, Chris Watts, and one of the worst I've seen, the sickening evangelical breeders of family annihilator Chris Colman. Casey Anthony's parents supported her, too, until she threw them under the bus with abuse claims and led to them finally cutting her off (though I wish they'd admit to what they know about Casey murdering her child).
@acdcmiami
@acdcmiami Жыл бұрын
I assume the two brothers were abused as children and the mother didn’t protect them from it.
@danam774
@danam774 Жыл бұрын
​@@wsidechrisI don't think I'd seen the Chris Coleman case. His dad is toxic - apple clearly didn't fall far from the tree.
@bubbabroad9051
@bubbabroad9051 Жыл бұрын
Yes, what despicable wimps 3 grown men ganging up on a girl.
@Cinder_311
@Cinder_311 Жыл бұрын
​@@acdcmiamino excuse
@cryptocred5754
@cryptocred5754 Жыл бұрын
Just a reminder, Dr Grande is a machine.
@HazyJ28
@HazyJ28 Жыл бұрын
Hes a machine built specifically for calculating the ratio between circumstances that *could* be happening to situations *like this*
@vickinoeske1154
@vickinoeske1154 Жыл бұрын
I can't even imagine how the mother felt. I don't think I could ever forgive myself. Too bad the police weren't more thorough.
@angielynch4217
@angielynch4217 Жыл бұрын
Dr grande, please do a video on lisk being arrested. I have many friends that were backpage girls at one time, this story really upsets me, and makes me grateful I made big life changes. Supposedly they have an suv he was connected to that a victim was seen in, back in 2009. Look into that for us
@willschwabenbauer2577
@willschwabenbauer2577 Жыл бұрын
I remember this very well. It was 1 town over from where i grew up. A friend of the family had one of killers at Lincoln Elementry. The little bastard tried to steal 50 bucks from her but was caught.
@jessicaellina3878
@jessicaellina3878 Жыл бұрын
So much in our lives can be summed up by " if only"..how many times have we all said these two words??? Another senseless murder of a child who was in the wrong place at the wrong time. I hope those two evil waste of spacers burn in hell for what they did. There,s so many of them...hope there,s still plenty of room.
@jimcronin2043
@jimcronin2043 Жыл бұрын
I can't imagine what the mother went (is going) through due to neglecting to arrange a ride for her daughter. The rape/murder is not her fault but she probably feels some fault for it. So in addition to the natural grief of losing a child her suffering is compounded. She is also a victim of the crimes.
@karenmartin7978
@karenmartin7978 Жыл бұрын
The O'Brien brothers' trials were held in Indiana County, PA, 87 miles from Oil City. The residents of Venango County (where Oil City is located), plus all surrounding counties, were thought to be too biased towards the O'Briens to give them a fair trial.
@disgruntledmoderate5331
@disgruntledmoderate5331 Жыл бұрын
Oh, wow. I was not ever expecting to see this case on your channel. This is why I was not allowed to trick or treat or walk home alone from church or anywhere. It had a major effect on the whole county. This sort if thing just didn't happen in our area.
@nilkilnilkil
@nilkilnilkil Жыл бұрын
Imagine how they conceive the idea to kidnap a little girl ... What must they say to each other ???
@PoM-MoM
@PoM-MoM Жыл бұрын
Horrifying abduction Shauna's last days are unimaginable.
@manewland1
@manewland1 Жыл бұрын
Thanks, as always, Dr. Grande. I always catch up on your latest video in the morning with coffee; I look forward to it every time. A very sad (and frustrating) story, this time.
@danielghosn6529
@danielghosn6529 Жыл бұрын
Dinner with Dr. Grande, what a treat!
@BansheesBanshin
@BansheesBanshin Жыл бұрын
Absolutely horrific crime. Very insightful analysis as always.
@LeahWalentosky
@LeahWalentosky Жыл бұрын
I grew up in Oil City, surprised this case is on here!
@cm182cm
@cm182cm Жыл бұрын
Dr Grande, I'd love for you to cover the case of Anita Cobby
@iflex1963
@iflex1963 Жыл бұрын
12:14 Ted had encountered her at a pizza shop....that would make her somewhat of an acquaintance.
@micheleheath2253
@micheleheath2253 Жыл бұрын
Interesting how people will say that we should let our kids out to play and nostalgically remember how they used to just have to be home when the street lights go on and how kids should not be so stuck to their video games, etc. I believe kids are addicted to video games, and I think that should be addressed, but dang, letting kids go out to play is like playing Russian roulette with two at the ready.
@valiakloeppel7252
@valiakloeppel7252 Жыл бұрын
Not if the kids are properly supervised. I'm surprised the school let her walk home. One time my Mom was a few minutes late ( her watch had stopped) from picking me up from 1st grade. The public school left me on the sidewalk alone. My Mom was so furious she immediately enrolled me in catholic school because they would never leave a child outside.
@vickie7036
@vickie7036 Жыл бұрын
Truly. It's not even safe to take them to church.
@WitchOfThePage
@WitchOfThePage Жыл бұрын
Dr. Grande I know this video is two weeks old so I really hope you see this. I've been subscribed to your channel soon after it's conceptualization but I've been limiting my consumption of media recently. I am familiar with this case and many other topics you cover, I was wondering if you could make a video explaining how and what young children (or someone of any age for that matter) should do if they're approached by a stranger(s) I know stranger abduction is exceedingly rare but let's eliminate it even further!
@Flamsterette
@Flamsterette Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the upload, Dr. Grande.
@catboxcleaner3532
@catboxcleaner3532 Жыл бұрын
If only Shauna had walked to her friends house, then walked home with her friend’s father. She would be alive. Poor girl.
@theunforgiven2885
@theunforgiven2885 Жыл бұрын
Ugh My thoughts exactly about the Mom forgetting a ride! the poor little girl 😔
@shandaabsar-so5gp
@shandaabsar-so5gp Жыл бұрын
How sad. Rest in peace
@onecoolcat2478
@onecoolcat2478 Жыл бұрын
I bet the mother will never forgive herself
@emilykathleenn
@emilykathleenn 3 ай бұрын
Love your calm voice Dr. Grande and how you are a decent husband to your wife (from what ive seen on here anyway) great videos and well explained
@MsSilverTulip
@MsSilverTulip Жыл бұрын
Can you please analyse some Australian cases: Ebony Simpson, Daniel Morcombe, and Anita Cobby. Thanks so much!
@btetschner
@btetschner Жыл бұрын
Growing up in a small town that is safe, I never thought of (or heard) anyone being kidnapped. I am curious as to what a community should do if something like this happens. I would imagine it is as much of the fault of the local culture as any one element.
@joseignaciorodriguez1207
@joseignaciorodriguez1207 Жыл бұрын
You are the best Doctor Grande I like how you talk with your eyes, gesture, and expressions
@wendiwonderly1419
@wendiwonderly1419 Жыл бұрын
if I were that Girl Scout leader those girls would not leave the meeting unless someone came to pick them up or I arranged a ride for them. When I was RN supervisor I drove young women home myself if they missed their bus or no one came to pick them up. I grew up in a rural area in Pennsylvania and we spent our time running through fields and climbing the neighbors trees. No more! I didn’t allow my daughter to do that and I won’t allow my grandchildren
@glow1815
@glow1815 Жыл бұрын
Probably at the time the girl scout leader wasn't aware or kidnapping wasn't unheard of. Some people don't really watch local news then and present. I myself and my family wasn't into tv then and never heard such thing as kidnapping.
@wendiwonderly1419
@wendiwonderly1419 Жыл бұрын
@@glow1815 I’m sure she wasn’t and no one anticipates a horrific kidnapping and murder. She probably feels terrible. Hopefully others can learn and be more careful. Those criminals probably would have attempted something like this no matter what anyone did
@terrioestreich4007
@terrioestreich4007 Жыл бұрын
Poor little girl
@JudiKerestan
@JudiKerestan Жыл бұрын
Please, never let your child walk home alone in the dark.....ever,
@WalkawayRenee13
@WalkawayRenee13 Жыл бұрын
I'm from the area and grew up hearing this story, especially around Halloween. Shauna Howe is beloved and celebrated to this day. I can confidently say that the ONLY reason this case wasn't solved is because of Oil City PD. When someone envisions this area, you cannot believe how small this area is truly is. That car would have been extremely unusal and known at the time to belong to this man because the pizza shop he worked at was located right in the tiny "downtown". Adults also told kids to STAY AWAY from the O'brian brothers because they were that creepy. When we did trick-or-treat, we always skipped their house. There are many murders in this area that have gone unsolved, even recently with modern DNA and forensics. It's dissapointing that adults in this area knew how disturbed these men were and the police didn't even sneeze in their direction because they couldn't be bothered to check if these men were out of jail at the time or investigate easily identifiable aspects of this case. God bless the Howe family. Because of their pain, parents woke up a little bit and realized not everyone is safe to be around your children.
@dutchray8880
@dutchray8880 Жыл бұрын
James O'brien was in state prison at the time of his arrest in this case. As noted in the video, he attempted to put a young lady in the trunk of his car, but he told other inmates he was locked up for robbery. James was conspicuously loud and confrontive with pedophiles in prison, far more so than is customary among inmates, and he made his contempt for them clear to everyone in earshot. This is peculiar, given some years before he and his brother had raped and murdered an 11-year-old girl. I believe that Ted Walker was simply a hapless participant who associated with the brothers for a vicarious sense of being tough and dangerous, however perverse that may seem, and he went along with the "prank" in order to be a part of their clique. He only realized how dreadful the situation was after it was too late. What really broke the case was when Timothy O'brien disclosed (bragged) about his part in the crime to a cellmate during a lockdown.
@ninabrown3044
@ninabrown3044 Жыл бұрын
Please do a personality profile on the O'Brien brothers.
@shandaabsar-so5gp
@shandaabsar-so5gp Жыл бұрын
First time hearing about this case
@elizabethwarman9028
@elizabethwarman9028 Жыл бұрын
Good evening Dr Grande, excellent analysis. As always I learn something new from your videos. Happy Bastille Day
@jaychild78
@jaychild78 Жыл бұрын
A Halloween party at a Church….interesting.
@ColeGirlOne
@ColeGirlOne Жыл бұрын
I love your videos 🌵
@dlc5166
@dlc5166 Жыл бұрын
Prayers for her soul - prayers for her family.
@melodyann44
@melodyann44 Жыл бұрын
This is interesting and scary. I'm hoping dr grande covers the architect who murdered all those young women in New York- I've seen others covering the murders " however no one covers a murder case / serial killer's ' kidnappers ' evil people better than Grande. If that makes sense?
@LeanneFowler-ms5xc
@LeanneFowler-ms5xc Жыл бұрын
It does.
@kaybacci1134
@kaybacci1134 Жыл бұрын
What a horrible crime. To throw a young girl, still alive, off a bridge into a creek bed like a bag of garbage. Vile murderers.
@andyramage7883
@andyramage7883 8 ай бұрын
I grew up in the Oil City area and remember when this happened, I think was 13 at the time.
@bassemb
@bassemb 9 ай бұрын
That poor kid.
@alex__825
@alex__825 Жыл бұрын
The way you say someone is ugly is really funny.. but RIP to the innocent girl
@peaceseeker52
@peaceseeker52 Жыл бұрын
There was a TV show back awhile where retired court people and local police tried to solve or prove Cold Cases and it was filmed to make a show. They had aboard they worked off of so they could see what had been done then additional steps were listed beside then added to the board. That way one person assuming incorrect something and voicing that would not trip up an investigation. Sounds like a good way to work. Everyone can see and contribute. We like to think we have ticked all boxes of a problem we were researching but sooner or later each of us overlooks something important and colleagues are used to being supportive and take the "lead guys" word all the ducks are in a row.
@Bebecat477
@Bebecat477 Жыл бұрын
What a horribly sad story.
@leahr9038
@leahr9038 Жыл бұрын
Poor baby. If I were her mother idk if I could continue on.
@Inuus
@Inuus Жыл бұрын
Just listening to the story makes me sick. Pure evil.
@zenawarrior7442
@zenawarrior7442 Жыл бұрын
Another very sad case. I do enjoy the older ones too. Great analysis again. Thanks Dr G😊🤍💛
@kristinaarnold4776
@kristinaarnold4776 Жыл бұрын
Poor baby three days!!
@barbieblue3336
@barbieblue3336 Жыл бұрын
Good for the witness. No cell phones then 😪 DNA was kind of new to police?
@jellybones4863
@jellybones4863 Жыл бұрын
Can you do an analysis on the case of Zackary Ramsay?
@informall6834
@informall6834 5 ай бұрын
Eldred "Ted" Walker supposedly handed Shauna Howe over to Timothy O'Brien, who put Shauna Howe in the car, but the eyewitness never said there were two men. The eyewitness only saw one tall, skinny man wearing an Army jacket and a baseball cap.
@Kattakam
@Kattakam Жыл бұрын
Oh my, horrific. Their narrative is a mute point in God’s eyes. Thank you for your hard work in analyzing this type of criminal activity. You have to live with all those horrible details forever. That burden is not for the faint of heart.
@informall6834
@informall6834 5 ай бұрын
Eldred "Ted" Walker asked Shauna Howe if she was selling Girl Scout cookies. Shauna Howe was not in her Girl Scout uniform, so how did Ted Walker know she was a Girl Scout?
@TomMSTie1138
@TomMSTie1138 Жыл бұрын
On Halloween you watch horror movies, not make one!
@princesspink843
@princesspink843 Жыл бұрын
Really sad
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