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[@Sad-Lemon]

Cliffe, as always, debunks false teachings and arguments in the Spirit of the Lord! God bless!

[@ambivertical]

Pastor, I've been blessed to come across you and ur channel 2 weeks ago. I've binged on so many videos. God bless you, thank you. I Praise God for how he uses you to be so patient, respectful, and reasonable with this upcoming generation. I've learned so much from you and it has influenced my evangelism. Love, A brother in Christ from NY

[@eric6640]

Hypocrisy at its worst; eyewitness accounts are good enough for every historical figure... other than Jesus.

[@godislove363]

Amen Eric.

[@rockerobertson4002]

Christians should learn the difference between eyewitness testimony and hearsay. Would be educational.

[@BradShreds]

@@rockerobertson4002 eyewitness IS hearsay, ye hypocrite

[@rockerobertson4002]

@@BradShreds guessing your not a lawyer.

[@oscarsantos2240]

@@rockerobertson4002 but there’s both… eyewitness and after they died it’s hearsay…

[@Darqstorms]

Dudes were really trying to say that you can scientifically proof history? Wow as hard as it was to watch this, I can’t even be mad at these two. The enemy has deceived them. Hopefully they open up to the truth and the light.

[@janetteblaydes7112]

Amen! Thank you Pastor Cliffe for your continued God Giving Love, Kindness and Patience in These trying times! God Bless Always!

[@will95515]

Thank you pastor for your obedience to the Lord and the ministry

[@Jameskmn]

Another great discussion. Thank you Pastor.

[@donnawilkins911]

God bless you Cliffe! You're awesome! (and have alot more patience than I ever will!)

[@wem-c9f]

God bless this pastor thousands times over. Thank you Jesus Christ. 🙏

[@MoralDecay]

very powerful. thanks Cliffe

[@Idc.350]

Man this guy is really something, I just love to hear him speak and debate with these students it’s great 🙏🏻

[@panosfillipou14]

wow Cliffe !!! Your patience is remarkable ....!!! God bless you man ... I don't think i would have the patience to deal with this especially with so respectul and loving way ... clear example of Peter 3:15 ....

[@mykingofkings646]

I always use Alexander the great as an example or Plato I say do you believe they were real historical figures?? because all we have for them is historical manuscripts... and neither compare in manuscripts to Jesus, we have 7 manuscripts for Plato and the manuscripts for Alexander the great are written 300-350 years after he ever lived so none were eyewitness but we accept these people as real historical people without doubt and we trust the manuscripts as accurately records. We have 25,000 manuscripts for Jesus so it is just historically inaccurate to say He never existed and if they do want to say this they need to provide evidence that he never lived against the abundance of evidence we have to say He did exist. Historian's agree they are very reliable historically they are 95% accurate when they are tested and compared against each other they all add up none contradict each other.

[@deeontherise3612]

I guess people have a hard time seeing that he rose from the dead so they go in with a naturalistic viewpoint.

[@godislove363]

King of Kings you are right great job with what you typed there isn't too much more to say in this particular situation support what he said thumbs-up and God bless

[@GraftedOliveBranch]

Amen. Well said.

[@davidthornton3597]

Usually when discuss this topic. I use historian's such as Josephus and tacitus. Also I have this video I wanna recommend you watch, it's an amazing video. God bless you and may God guide you into all truth and revelation. kzbin.info/www/bejne/aIKbm55qZqZ8aac

[@marvenlunn6086]

What about all the other gods do you believe in all of them or just one why are the other gods not real and yours is the only real god

[@novisnick6928]

Thank you Cliff, I love you as my brother in Christ. ❤️

[@paulwilfridhunt]

Cliffe is so great or effectual and doing what he does. But every once on a while he is brilliant. What I have just witnessed is a masterpiece.

[@diffgeo23]

Thanks Cliffe. That last message hit me in the heart.

[@proorizo4985]

Cliffe, pretty good teacher, he is an intelligent man. I learn a lot from him

[@jeffjacobs1990]

Cliffe brought his A game on this one. Way to go Cliffe.

[@steelframer]

awesome video cliffe keep the content coming

[@jrc99us]

"What's the evidence for Jesus' existence?" "Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, 1 Corinthians." "Not that evidence!" 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

[@ninjason57]

Basically yea. It's a waste of time to talk to people who dismiss evidence. There's no amount of evidence that will be sufficient for that guy in the video. Ive talked to many people similar to him and ive never been able to convince any of them despite evidence.

[@3in1god]

Thanks Cliffe. This is a good one. 👏👏👏 I like sharing these on Facebook.

[@fred-mt5fn]

OK, some of these kid seem to have been stripped of there ability to think logically.

[@paulwilfridhunt]

I find it rather pleasing to realise that because of God's infinite qualities we will forever be gaining the inexhaustible knowledge of Him. This realisation is comforting to me because to know that I will never ever completely know God, although the knowing I will have of Him will be extraordinary compared to what I currently know, However this knowing of His unlimited greatness finally places me in my place of knowing my place. My true place. And my minuteness compared to God is a realisation that I love. And this place is one of comfort. It brings me peace. For I know that I will never know all there is to know about God referred to by some as the knowledge of God, because there is no such thing as " all there is to know about God". God is without beginning or end and so is His complexity without end. No one can ever know all there is to know about God because the knowledge of God is without end because it's never ending. And that realisation brings me comfort. I know my place. And knowing and accepting my place, coming to terms with it, brings me abundant peace. What a journey we are on. What a joy it brings. This recognition of God's infinite greatness brings with its realisation a wonderful sense of security. And isn't it rather pathetically disappointing to see those who label themselves as atheists, referring to our God as a sky daddy. Unfortunately these people who make such absurd statements prove that they don't even begin to have a clue. Check out a young man who is astronomer,Jason Lisle on KZbin. He believes in the young earth and man is he a good teacher, or what.

[@deeontherise3612]

He said the only way to know is if you took photographs 😂😂😂

[@emmanuelruels7418]

THAT KID PROBABLY WOULDN'T BELIEVE IN A LOT OF THINGS IF THE GUTTENBERG PRESS HAD NEVER BEEN INVENTED.

[@og2474]

8:13 😂😂😂They walked into it!!!

[@codeblood2000]

It's amazing how some people will believe any theory of humanity long as it's not based in God

[@seanmartin7327]

Am I missing something, if indeed there were more genuine eye witness accounts written down at the time of the resurrection would they not be included in the Bible today and therefore be dismissed by skeptics all the same

[@invisibleinkling1474]

Mythystry Actually, the writings of the historians like Tacitus, Tertulius, and those he named are still with us. But they weren't staunch followers of Christ. They simply recorded events as they happened. They were historical eyewitnesses to Jesus' existence, but they weren't close to Him; they weren't his students or messengers. They were often skeptics. Heck, even the disciples were skeptical until after He rose from the dead. Then they were convinced that they needed to tell everyone, the Jews especially (but everyone nonetheless), that He was their expected Messiah.

[@Laskarides]

The writtings, Cliff referes to, were copied many times. Copies were VERY expensieve those times. Who would copy a writting which he thought it is worthless?

[@jason1464]

I found this article a good read on non-biblical evidence. www.desiringgod.org/articles/historical-evidence-for-the-resurrection When it comes to biblical truths I feel that aside from evidence it takes an element of faith. Mark 4:9 Then Jesus said, “He who has ears to hear, let him hear. Another favorite is Romans 10:17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. We ( I ) should read the Bible, hear and comprehend and it will increase your faith.

[@Flagrum3]

+Mythystry- Just to add to your point; If it wasn't for the Catholic Church and the many unnamed monks, we would not have a scrap of ancient writings, as much of what we have in existence today were preserved and copied by them. most ancient writings in existence are 1000 years from their source documents. The bible on the other hand and some secular/hostile sources such as the Talmud are mere generations from the sources and all talk of Jesus. The Talmud actually speaks of the crucifixion and the fact the body was missing from the tomb and that Jesus did indeed perform miracles but they claim them to have been the work of sorcery.

[@invisibleinkling1474]

Max F ...The evidence is what distinguishes it from false religions and the reason why it is reasonable to believe. Remember... Mormons say they prayed and were led to believe by a "burning in the bosom," yet have no evidence to back their claims. No one should blindly believe in God or anything else without some kind of evidence. While it is true that the Holy Spirit is involved in convincing us and guiding us to the truth, mankind is great at excusing the need for that the Holy Spirit uses to do so, which always includes either empirical and/or circumstantial evidence. The day and age we live in, since far from Christ's life on earth, makes empirical evidence limited and difficult, if not impossible. But there is a treasure trove of circumstantial evidence all over the world and throughout history that points to Biblical support. Biblical archaeological finds continue to be unearthed to this day. Early Biblical and historical manuscripts and writings have been discovered. Scientific discoveries show there was a beginning to the universe. No concept can explain the origin of life better than the theory intelligent design. The dependence that exist between organisms, environments, etc., tell a story and even speak wisdom. The fact that we can contemplate our existence (let alone every other human and animal ability) is telling as well. So many things point to God. Everyone understands why people don't wish to believe in God. It's because we fear not being in control, trusting an unseen being, being called crazy, the possibility of being persecuted for our beliefs and how radically our lives may have to change due to the inevitable honest decision we would have to make upon believing.

[@boltrooktwo]

The martyred Christians of the Roman empire all gave their individual witness in a powerful way.

[@rhynes1]

I really love this channel. I think it's funny that the messages Cliffe gives in his house have nothing to do with what he says at the school.

[@paulwilfridhunt]

However strangely enough I have changed in many other ways since 1987. My peace is such that I no longer need the greatness I once hungered for, which I needed as a compensation for the life I didn't have. And now, although I know of my impending Godhood, I am not necessarily looking forward to it as I would have done all those years ago. Certainly I'm not against it and I wouldn't refuse it, but really I don't care one way or another if I got it or not, Although I do know that this fate/destiny is to be mine and others like me, which presumably will result in the receiving being greater than the anticipation or expectation. I have lost so much. Lost jealousy. Lost truck loads of pride. Love replaced my hate. Gratitude swapped places with the ingrate that I unwittingly was. Once was ignorant savage now I am a child of God.

[@MegaNerd117]

Hi everyone here.

[@Alangiuroiu]

Hey

[@ericscaillet2232]

Another 5 and you can start a band

[@paulwilfridhunt]

Truth can savage us sometimes so much that our preference is to avoid the savagery it produces upon our sense of self worth, and not allow it within the precepts of our mind. Therefore we tend to have a preference for only those thoughts that contribute to our sense of self worth and the way we want things to be. We seem to have an inbuilt mechanism that's designed to assist us to feel worthwhile and resist and block out any attacks upon our feelings of self worth. And whilst this is a worthwhile and helpful assistant to our thinking, nevertheless this guard, this sentry, standing duty, guarding our minds can misguidedly block out what it should sometimes let in, if we want to really grow and can endure the pain of that growth. But our sentry who is operating on auto pilot sometimes needs to be overridden and we have to take the control out of his hands if we want to entertain notions that the sentry wishes to eject. This is a painful business entertaining notions that can tend to do our head in. But unless we have a carrot we won't do it. I am now going to give you that carrot. Here it is. God actually made you to be God. That's heavy fact isn't it. But that is a fact. The scriptures say let us make man in our image. That's God speaking. My Godhood has already begun. But I've got a long way to go. Infinity to be precise. Although I was born in 1947 I got born again in 1987, and I get the feeling I've lived forever. That's my Godhood kicking in via the way of Jesus Christ. And as I journey through eternity I will eventually become like God or more and more like God or as God but I will always worship my God who made me, who will always be superior to me and referred to as the father. That keeps my feet on the ground. That's not a bad carrot is it. Or would you prefer your deal of heading for the fertiliser pit? You'd never looked at it like this before had you?

[@codeblood2000]

You really shouldn't come to a debate using a tool that's based on the natural. We are up against an opponent that is Supernatural

[@seanleeduncan]

Glory to God! 😄

[@jjsimaging]

if HE did not raised from the dead.... where is the body????

[@JLCProductions1976]

"They're goal oriented" HOLD THE PHONE: how many books are in your bag? Do they have a goal? If they do, they're false.

[@Coffebreakpodcast]

Flavius Josephus also wrote about Jesus.

[@senseijuan3230]

It is funny scientist accept the big band but they have never reproduced it, they never saw it while it was happening and they never will. But yet the critics believers for their faith.

[@davidplummer2619]

So they want corroboration 'from the outside', someone somehow neutral, before they will take the possibility of the resurrection seriously. What a strawman. How could anyone see this guy get a spear rammed into his heart, see him alive and well a few days later and remain unaffected, neutral, about that?

[@GuerrasLaws]

Throughout history, we have asked ourselves, what came first and what came after. Was it creation or evolution? The answer to that question is creation. Creation came first and evolution came after. Without creation, evolution cannot exist. Creation is proof that evolution exist. Everything has a point of origin and creation is the origin of evolution and not the other way around. ~Guadalupe Guerra

[@boltrooktwo]

George Washington himself would corroborate about the belief and accuracy of the historical accounts of God and the life of Jesus Christ.

[@TheNEOONE1]

Nice.

[@coachdemetrius]

How does cliff keep a straight face?

[@jovantehollins5786]

Crazy see cliff son with long hair l, I've usually notice him while it's short

[@ericscaillet2232]

Good observation.

[@jovantehollins5786]

@@ericscaillet2232 not really, I wouldn't if notice if didn't realize he had a son after watch a previous one with him talking, I just found them a year ago

[@Billygoatsgrruff]

young people today are so easily brainwashed

[@lorenzob3400]

This guys is arguing with Cliffe like his life depends on it. 😉

[@bonnie43uk]

Cliffe makes an interesting point at about 5:25, he says that if you are an atheist, you have to believe that morality is relative, ie, if someone thinks it's wrong to murder, then it's ok for another person to think it's ok. As an atheist, I don't believe that, and I think that most atheists don't believe that either. I can't think of any atheist who would hold that view. We learn right and wrong from our parents. In order for us to live in a decent society, it's important we all know the rules.. stealing murder, rape etc are bad things.

[@SirSleepy247]

Yes, but that's his point that most of Athiest think like you. See it's very simple because you don't have objective morality then anyone is right to treat others any way they want to. For example Germany in WWII how can you say killing millions of people is wrong to do. You can't they have different moral standards then you. And that's sad and depressing that's why he mentioned the Athiest philosophers who came to the same conclusion.

[@bonnie43uk]

Hi SirSleepy, i think we are miscommunicating here, .. not having objective morality *does not* mean that anyone is right to treat others anyway they want to. Sometimes using terms like objective and subjective can muddy the waters. If you look up the term 'subjective morality', I would be very surprised if the definition came up as "believing it's right to treat others anyway you wish to". as I understand it, it's more to do with your morality coming from how you perceive things around you and making a personal judgement, very few people make a judgment that it's ok to steal, kill, rape.. those few people who do think that will probably have mental issues of some kind. As I said, we learn our moral traits from our parents.Regardless of religions around the globe, all parents teach their kids good morals, because in order for society to work, we need to get along with eachother, it's beneficial for everyone.

[@joshjeggs]

SirSleepey247 You Do realise this guy is a phoney right? He goes around pretending that he just asking questions out of mere interest. He is on almost every give me an answer. *scroll down* and you will see this same comment again. He reposts the same comment in order to find people to talk to. I think i spent 3 days talking to someone i though was actually genuine only to realise he is a loner that is simply looking for an argument. He has said that only a miracle that happens in front of him will convince him. yet he goes around every give me an answer raising allagations and asking for evidence for this and that when he has already declared that nothing they say would convince him. scroll down to see the previous convo on the same topic.

[@bonnie43uk]

Josh Jeggs Josh Josh Josh, nobody is under any obligation to reply to me, Christianity is something close to my heart having been steeped in it for a long period of my life. I make no bones about enjoying these conversations, talking about the existence of God is something that a lot of people find of great interest. The fact that I've come to the conclusion that God does not exist does not mean that you or anyone else should come to the same conclusion, I'm sure I've told you on more than one occasion that if Christianity works for you, to embrace it. Millions of people have very tough lives and i can see that belief in a God, whether you are a Christian, Hindu, Muslim Jew or whatever, if it helps you get through life, then that's fine with me. Cliffe's videos are all about asking questions, he debates with students, its a 2 way conversation, i happen to have an opposing view to Cliffe, i don't think he would mind me posing an alternative view and discussing it with others. I can't think of a better subject to talk about.

[@bonnie43uk]

Josh Jeggs ..And where have I declared that nothing anyone says will convince me. Find me that quote and i will give you $1000

[@randomreviews1461]

Cliffe must have loved it when these guys were walking into their own traps.

[@blair00725]

Should have stopped at 1 point and asked, "If Christianity was proven to be 100% true, would you become a Christian?"

[@jdz3446]

Kid started stuttering soon as Clif explained how the eye witnesses died for claiming they’ve seen the resurrected Christ.

[@austin33785]

Lol this episode is called edge lords unite against the infallible God.

[@chrisbowden4070]

i believe that god created evolution and science to carry out his worldly processes

[@GraceAlone614]

This guy thinks that you can only verify something if there's external evidence that can back up the source evidence of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. Well if that's the case, if his girlfriend says "I love you", he's gonna want external evidence that can prove that his girlfriend really loves him. Come on, that's ridiculous. You don't go around ONLY looking at external evidence. How do we know that external evidence is accurate? By this guy's logic, would we not have to then find external evidence that can verify the external evidence? So on, and so forth? At what point do you stop with the "external evidence"?

[@knxcholx]

3:17 is this guy serious???

[@ChrisTian-cb5my]

Nothing is based on evolution

[@jovi2149]

It’s convenient for the people who witnessed the resurrection and wrote it? What is this logic?

[@Archer_YT]

First!

[@ericscaillet2232]

And last if you turn around

[@blacksuburban2410]

Two walking, talking Hot Topic mannequins

[@faithwisdom3613]

Question for those who study apologetics - does Hinduism have any evidence or proof for their religion? (Besides the followers claiming miracles/Personal experience/ect.) is it just mythology? like if I were to ask an Hindu for proof of their religion being correct...

[@koklol2837]

Guest Hindus don't have a clue what their so called "gods" are. The hindus gods are the same as the greek, roman and the other gods of early history. Their gods are one if not all of the 200 watchers that came down on Mount Hermon. The other part of their gods are demonic entities and the third are human beings which began to bring worshiped as gods by people most notably Nimrod, Semiramis and Tamuz which became the Zeus, Athena and Apollo of the greeks. Jupiter, Venus and Mars of the Romans. Its all the same deities translated into different languages. Hinduism is the most demonic religion in existence alongside Islam.

[@faithwisdom3613]

Do you guys have any other answers outside the Bible?

[@duke-swtmate4154]

+Guest Romans 3:23 and 6:23. As all men have sinned, there is no one being sinless. If Buddha had been sinless, he would live on this earth until today and would not have died. If any Hindu priest had been sinless, he would live on this earth until today and would not have died. My addition to King of Kings and Lord of Lords' comment: Isaiah 43:10. There are no gods, only God (Yahveh, the everlasting). One of the best arguments is the fulfilled prophecy in the book of Daniel 9:24-27. Jesus died in 32 A.D. The prophecy starts in 445 B.C. (Nisan=March/April), and after 69 weeks of years the Messiah should be cut off (1 weeks of years = 7 years, 1 years = 360 days. 69 weeks of years = 476 years with 365 days per year). 445 + 476 years ~ 31 A.D + time lags (sun years etc.) = 32. A.D. (Nisan). Jesus died in the month Nisan in 32 A.D and rose after that.

[@faithwisdom3613]

Thank you for your response. I know about Isaiah 53 for example but I want to hear what their greatest arguments for Hinduism is. Like why do they believe what they believe? What reason do they have to be Hindu and stay Hindu? like do they have any proof like bible prophesies for example?

[@faithwisdom3613]

Thank u about the book of book of Daniel btw.

[@dragoslav3859]

Intelligent beings denying an intelligent creator lol! If I took 7 rocks and walked into a field and laid them all in a straight line, and if they went unnoticed, and untouched for 200 years until someone stumbled upon them, they would know that those 7 rocks in an absolute straight line were placed there, that it wasn’t an accident that they were in that orientation, but those same people will deny a creator despite the complexity of there eyeball.

[@ikawpipa]

The Philosophy of Evolution that Humans came from a rock is non-sense.

[@TreenighetMaranata]

Everything that this 2 gentlemen says must be true, because what others have seen said and died for is irrelevant! If I didn't had Jesus Holy Spirit and gift of faith within me, their reason would have been godlike wise! Jesus is risen from the dead, that is solid evidence for believers who truly are Baptized in Fire by Jesus Holy Spirit, who ones were dead, but is made alive by Jesus!

[@jimscaggs2422]

Kinda like Paul on Mars hill

[@mackdmara]

That statement that they believed Jesus had risen due to his cultural personality is flat out false. First we have Paul who was not a follower of Christ, but an enemy seeing him. Fairly compelling. The most compelling evidence is the other failed christs that rose, were imprisoned & killed, & then scattered. In fact, this is true of all of them within 100 years of Jesus, one way or the other, according to NT Wright (historian). No other Messianic movement succeeded & no other one had people claim their christ has risen. They all, if they lived, gave it up or choose a new christ to follow. Nothing in that part of history is remotely like Christ. It was not his cultural personality that fueled early Christianity.

[@AWABABDELHADI]

Notice, Muslim ads on this video 😢

[@JohnjOcampo]

Cliffe has no control over that, youtube does and I'm certain they did that on purpose.

[@tjswilley5265]

You could give these guys 5000 accounts of Jesus and they still wouldn't believe, they don't have eyes to see and ears to listen

[@blacksheep3463]

A mans reproductive system being half and the woman having half coming from chance random mutations over millions of years is to much faith for me LOL

[@Flagrum3]

All the scenarios the kid in black came up with have all been dealt with in the past and by far more knowledgeable people, be that scholars and historians etc. It is obvious this kid has never bothered to study the counter arguments. An obvious one track mind. We Christians hear what the nonbelievers say everyday, I've heard the same what this kid asserted hundreds of times, so it cannot be said I don't know their arguments, but by research, study and reason, I've found the answers. It's so sad to see that these young atheists will not put the effort in, to learn all they can on the topic when so much is at stake.

[@Ajboy369]

All the scenarios the man in blue came up with have all been dealt with in the past and by far more knowledgeable people, be that scholars and historians etc. It is obvious this man has never bothered to study the counter arguments. An obvious one track mind. We athiest hear what the believers say everyday, I've heard the same what this man asserted hundreds of times, so it cannot be said I don't know their arguments, but by research, study and reason, I've found the answers. It's so sad to see that these christians will not put the effort in, to learn all they can on the topic when so much is at stake

[@eric6640]

#notanargument

[@Flagrum3]

+BlockyMonkey -I'll bet you are one in the same as those that I spoke of in my comment. And also to +Eric Grubb here's an example of the erroneous argument by the kid; There is no evidence for a God as he is not observable, yet he claims evolution is, when there is no such observation. That is just one of the many faults in his argument and a big one.

[@Ajboy369]

Flagrum3 just pointing out it goes both ways

[@eric6640]

Was replying to BlockyMonkey. I agree. There is no standard of evidence that would sate atheists. An act of divine intervention could happen in front of them and they'd tell people it was fake and a theist conspiracy.

[@JohnWilliams-pk7ci]

Cliffe 500 people told me your a creepy weirdo......I believe it !

[@JohnjOcampo]

Projection at it's finest, copium some more.

[@Ajboy369]

How to avoid answering questions 101

[@ninjason57]

The answers these students are looking for is not simple. Cliff answers questions better than most, you have to have a brain to understand an answer beyond yes and no. Think.

[@Ajboy369]

@@ninjason57 Howdy! A little late to reply to my comment don't you think?

[@JohnWilliams-pk7ci]

Cliffe is telling flat out lies.....there is nothing is the bible that says those apostles had the chance to deny the truth of the resurection to save themselves...nothing at all he is making that up......very dishonest man who is breaking a commandment.

[@JohnjOcampo]

The death of james and judas are both in the Bible, Most of what we know about the other apostles deaths come from ancient Christian writers and church tradition, and there are often multiple accounts of where and how they died. Try again but leave your cowardice aside, deception will not work here son.

[@stephenpaul5879]

I cannot stand fingernail biting...

[@ericscaillet2232]

Yes but somewhat better than nose picking:-)

[@dperkins01]

Cliffe lies about Josephus who wrote about many Jesus figures. No one knows who wrote the gospels names assigned later in history. He wont say that because it kills his argument. very dishonest cliffe.

[@ericscaillet2232]

Was wondering same however it is not a pivotal point ,after all this time a few unknowns are to be expected.

[@ninjason57]

It's not dishonest. It's still debated on who physically wrote the gospels but the sources being Matthew, mark, luke and john are still reasonable explanations held by many scholars.