Guns of the West Paper Cartridge Kit

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Dustin did a great job putting this kit together, and I'm glad to see people getting use out of it. Thanks for the detailed info!

[@SmallCaliberArmsReview]

Glad it was helpful!

[@kylenriley2520]

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[@tonystanley8218]

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[@kylenriley2520]

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[@kylenriley2520]

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[@Larry-oh7sd]

I like those kits. I've been using them for a few years, less loading time more shooting time. Excellent video.

[@SmallCaliberArmsReview]

They are very handy! Thanks for the comment and thanks for watching too!

[@SouthernYankee679]

Once I went to paper cartridges there was no going back to loose components. Paper is king. Excellent video.

[@SmallCaliberArmsReview]

I still use both. Thanks for watching!

[@robertgolden1080]

I just ordered the .44 cal kit. It’s for my CVA 1851 Colt Navy revolver that I built from a kit that I purchased in 1993. It’s a solid shooter. I’ve been loading it the old fashioned way, figured it’s time to go the modern way now. I’m introducing my Son to it. He loves my .50 cal rifle. Great video. Thanks for sharing

[@SmallCaliberArmsReview]

Once you get the hang of the kit, loading them can go pretty quickly. I hope you Sone enjoys the hobby, it can be a lot of fun. Be safe and thanks for watching!

[@petermonck5448]

Excellent presentation. 👍☕😎

[@SmallCaliberArmsReview]

Thank you 👍

[@gusr6]

Great video, gotta love the smokey with paper cartridges! (Pro tip, leave the bore butter at home)

[@SmallCaliberArmsReview]

Good tip! Thanks for watching.

[@scottmorgan1016]

This was so cool. I have to get me one next year. Plus it's relaxing to me using paper cartridges. I loved it

[@SmallCaliberArmsReview]

It's a neat little kit and really makes it less of a chore to go to the range. Thanks for watching Hillbilly!

[@roberts3942]

I really appreciate the quality of your videos. They are well done and very educational concerning black powder weapons. I used to think I wanted to make a black powder rifle as you have done in previous videos. You taught me these weapons can be very dangerous if not handled properly and they require a lot of maintenance after shooting. For that I am thankful

[@SmallCaliberArmsReview]

Don't let that scare you away from Black Powder. They may require more maintenance but they will help you understand the mechanics of firearms and when treated with respect, they are tons of fun. All weapons are dangerous but when handled properly and safely they are part of an extremely enjoyable hobby. Thank you for watching and I hope you stick around to watch many more of my videos!

[@ralphperez4862]

Thanks for the great video. Good Stuff. Dustin is one Hell of a Good Guy. I just bought one of these kits. I really can't wait to use it. By the way, I love your backdrop. Way cool.

[@SmallCaliberArmsReview]

Yup! I chat with him from time to time, good guy! I need to make some for my Walkers pretty soon. Thanks for watching!

[@michaelprue9024]

I’ve really been wanting to buy a couple of black powder pistols. I already have a 50 cal rifle. Seeing this video just makes me want it more. Thanks

[@SmallCaliberArmsReview]

They can be a whole lot of fun. Thanks for watching!

[@Squib1911]

Good demonstration.

[@SmallCaliberArmsReview]

Thanks Squib!

[@Squib1911]

@@SmallCaliberArmsReview I'm glad you made the video. I've been meaning to get one of the kits and keep forgetting to order it.

[@denisdegamon8224]

I just ordered a kit a few days ago myself. I have been a black powder shooter for over 45 years and looking forward to using this very well made kit.

[@SmallCaliberArmsReview]

it's an easy one to use, I think you'll like it.

[@jamesgarland4990]

Guns of the West kits are awesome!

[@SmallCaliberArmsReview]

I completely agree! Thanks for watching!

[@Semyon_Semyonych]

Just got one of the Dustin's kit and rolled the first butch of .44 caliber cartridges for my Navy and Army Italian replicas. Before I bought this kit, I'd tried a couple of other kits, and I can tell that Dustin's kit is the best!

[@SmallCaliberArmsReview]

Great to hear! Enjoy and be safe!

[@samspencer582]

I live in Sweden and here we don´t need any license to own and shoot with black powder guns that is made in 1890 and before that. But the new made cap and ball revolvers from Italy we must have a license to, strange laws here. I own an original Remington 44 1858 and I have been to the shooting range once with it and I really loved to shoot with it. It is much funnier to need such many things to be able to shoot with the cap and ball revolver and rifles than new guns that only need new bullets. I have ordered a paper cartridge kit from Dustin too and can´t wait to get it to start making my own paper cartridges. Thank you for your great video.

[@SmallCaliberArmsReview]

We also don't have any special requirements for black powder firearms here in the US. They are a whole lot more work than modern firearms but they sure are a lot of fun. I would love to have an original Remington or Colt, they sure are iconic firearms. Thank you very much for watching!

[@samspencer582]

​@@SmallCaliberArmsReview I really hope to get some more Pyrodex from the shop where I bought my first Pyrodex, but now they don´t have it, but they told me that they will get more, but they don´t know when. Otherwise I must try to make my own black powder. I´m happy that it is possible, but I must be careful if I must make some. Most gun shops want to see a copy of a license, but it´s silly when owning and shooting an original cap and ball revolver of other old guns and rifles is allowed, but to buy black powder seems more difficult. Have you made black powder by yourself? One of my friends loaded his Remington 44 in his garage, but with no bullet, instead he pushed down a piece of tinfoil he made to a ball and pulled the trigger. It went through a wooden board. He didn´t knew how powerful that gun was. These are really American masterpieces. my Remington costed me about 2060 $ when I bought mine. How expensive are the originals in USA? I have shot with an Italian made Remington long time ago and it misfired quite many times, but my old one have never misfired, the caps only use to fall away. I use caps with the number 1075. I hope it´s the right size, but I squeeze them a little and it works little better then. Now I have bought a capper so it will be easier to load the caps.

[@SmallCaliberArmsReview]

@@samspencer582 I have not made my own black powder but it is legal to make here, in some places. Pyrodex is less regulated because it is not considered as an "explosive" like black powder is. I have seen the prices for originals around $2000 and up to $10,000+, it all depends on the condition and the history of the gun. I have used #10, #11 and 1075 caps on my reproduction revolvers, some split, some fall off and some have parts that fall into the hammer and jam things up. I have a couple cappers, an inline and a Ted Cash capper but almost never use them. Some of them don't fit on the cylinders of certain guns unless you modify either the cylinder or the capper, so I usually just use my fingers and a piece of wood to seat them. I have a few black powder videos on my channel and I plan on doing more soon, they really are a lot of fun. Thanks again!

[@samspencer582]

@@SmallCaliberArmsReview Thank you for your answer.

[@shihanjulio]

Great video!! I use Crisco grease and apply it to the chambers with a popsicle stick. Crisco does a great job on reducing fouling and is a bunch cheaper than Bore Butter.

[@SmallCaliberArmsReview]

I'll have to give that a try, thanks for the tip!

[@shihanjulio]

@@SmallCaliberArmsReview I also use it to lube my conicals.

[@johnshandloading7907]

Excellent review. I have the .44 kit from Dustin and love it. I was new to BP revolvers and really like using the paper cartridges and the 'bore butter'. It splatters a bit but the guns clean up easily and leaves no residue in the bore. I bought a bunch of wads and don't use them because I like making the paper cartridges so much better than the 'traditional' loading. I enjoyed your video, thank you for sharing it with us.

[@SmallCaliberArmsReview]

Someday I'll get my hands on some of the conical rounds and give them a try. I'm also going to try the purple glue, the clear is tough to see on the roundballs but it works! Thanks for commenting and thanks for watching too!

[@jxpat]

Outstanding video! Thanks for sharing

[@SmallCaliberArmsReview]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@mikenedoma1363]

Awesome, will need to check out this product

[@SmallCaliberArmsReview]

It's one handy little kit! Thanks for watching!

[@Alexitt50]

I received mine today and sat right down and rolled up a half dozen .36 roundball cartridges... Never done it before though 20 years ago I rolled my own smokes... Super easy and probably easier with conicals... Great review and a great little product Thanks!!!

[@SmallCaliberArmsReview]

That is awesome! I agree the conical bullets would have to be easier! Thanks for watching!

[@johnr1457]

Think Dustin’s kit is awesome got mine in .36 caliber two days ago. Takes A little practice but it makes great paper cartridges.

[@SmallCaliberArmsReview]

I agree, I just picked up some of his bullet lube too. Thanks for watching!

[@markcunningham6086]

Cool beans. I have his kit also. Very nice kit. I make a bunch then store um in left over prescription bottles. Air tight against wet or damp days.

[@SmallCaliberArmsReview]

Good idea. I'll bet you could even throw in one of the small desiccant packs you find shipped with different products, just as a little extra insurance too. Thanks for watching!

[@bobsradio6025]

This may appear to be complicated to those that do not handload. But those of us that handload simply see this as another way to do it. Thanks for the good info.

[@SmallCaliberArmsReview]

I agree! Thanks for watching!

[@walterashley149]

Got the kit in the mail, loved it!!! Got all the supplies!!!! Now where did my kit go?? Paper cartridge kit gnomes!!! It's SOMEWHERE!!!

[@SmallCaliberArmsReview]

Once you get the hang of it, you can turn them out pretty quick. Enjoy and be safe!

[@capt.mike73ahoy14]

That kit is a great idea although I bet someone starts selling the premade paper sleeves in bulk. I purchased a .36 Navy for my brother in law at a shop in the SLC airport many Christmas Eves ago. He loved it. You look like you may have been a gambler in the 1880's in your other life. Thanks for the good video and Merry Christmas!

[@SmallCaliberArmsReview]

I love the old cowboy guns, they're just plain fun! I sure ain't no gambler today, but I do like to play some poker! Thanks for the compliments and Merry Christmas to you too!

[@woodrowbrimm2805]

You can use the lube stick to wax the former before use to keep the paper s from sticking to the former .This makes it easier to remove the papers from the former while waiting for the glue to dry.

[@SmallCaliberArmsReview]

Thanks for the tip! Thanks for watching too!

[@Seahawksl1969]

I bought Dustin's kit for use with my Pietta 1858 .36 Remington New Model Army.

[@SmallCaliberArmsReview]

He makes it for several different calibers. I still need to make up some .31s and .36s myself! Thanks for watching!

[@Seahawksl1969]

@@SmallCaliberArmsReview Yes he does. I only needed a kit for my .36. If I could have found a .44 version of the Pietta 1858, I would have bought one of those as well, if the price was fair.

[@Bobbysoxer2]

I solved the problem with caps that jam the cylinder. I got some aquarium air hose with an inside diameter the same as the OD of the cap. Cut a short length of air hose, press it over the cap, and viola! The caps go on easier and never jam the cylinder. Also makes the caps easy to remove. Try it!

[@SmallCaliberArmsReview]

Interesting, I just may have to try it.

[@DarkAngel051372]

I always use paper cartridges in my 44 colt army, but in my springfield and pedersoli double barrel shotgun, I have to load down the muzzle. For the colt I mostly use balls in cartridges.

[@SmallCaliberArmsReview]

I have not used paper cartridges in any of my long guns yet, I'll have to give it a shot someday. Thanks for watching!

[@BillyBlaze7]

Thanks for the video, def interesting. I think i will stay with the regular way though, I have that down to where I can load up pretty quickly with the flask, measure wad powder and ball. I notice from your other video we have some things in common. I also am a woodworker and leathercrafter. It's a lot of fun to be able to make your own things aint it. I found your videos because I was looking at the short barreled colt marshall. I was wondering if making a lever extension for the loading lever out of some small pipe would aid in seating the ball in that revolver.

[@SmallCaliberArmsReview]

I ordered a SliXHand loading tool recently. It's a loading lever extension handle made of aircraft aluminum and designed to fit several different revolvers. I hope to do a video on it soon. I love making my own stuff and working on my own stuff as well. I have tons more projects in the works, hopefully I can get a few of the big ones done this year. Thanks for watching and I hope you subscribe to see what happens in the years to come!

[@BillyBlaze7]

@@SmallCaliberArmsReview yep we are kindred spirits lol I built a garage last summer and this spring I am painting my entire car. My one regret in life is not having the confidence early on to just jump head first into the unknown and start learning to do things by trial and error, experience is the best teacher and I've learned to do so much more than I ever imagined just by trying it. Now, if you are also a musician I'm gonna have to start grillin my dad lol subbing right now, Thanks again.

[@SmallCaliberArmsReview]

Same here, experience has taught me a LOT! I' wouldn't call myself a musician, but I do have a small guitar collection! I don't "play" them as much as I "play with" them. Lol!@@BillyBlaze7

[@Seahawksl1969]

It was good that you showed the round balls being used and then loaded into the gun. Dustin didn't show it being done with his kit. From what I hear, only round balls can be used in the Pietta 1858. I have Hornady .375 round balls for mine.

[@SmallCaliberArmsReview]

Dustin changed out the loading ram in one of his guns so that he could load conicals in it, I don't remember which one it was though. Round balls are all that I have, maybe someday I'll cast some conical bullets of my own.

[@Seahawksl1969]

@@SmallCaliberArmsReview Yes I saw Dustin had changed out the ram on a pistol to allow him to use conicals. I belive there was no overall benefit to using conicals in that gun. At least for the time being, I'll stick to round balls since that is what the gun was designed for.

[@shanegibb997]

That was a great video Richard , i really enjoyed watching that ! That's an excellent gun to have some fun with , God I wish we could have them.

[@SmallCaliberArmsReview]

Thanks Shane, greatly appreciated. They are loads of fun, I wish you could enjoy them too. Thanks for watching and commenting!

[@triple9fine]

Where do you live?

[@shanegibb997]

@@triple9fine Australia.

[@doranmaxwell1755]

The 36 is a bit more difficult to make than the 44 for me. I just use my powder flask for charging the hulls... what is cool is that the funnel is perfect for not only well.... a funnel but I put the husk up a bit 1/8" or so and the funnel actually has a nice taper which slightly bells the husk I am using round ball so the flare really helps especially on the 36. as you say the husks are delicate and I have saved a lot of grief just by using a set of tweezers for a lot of the handling

[@SmallCaliberArmsReview]

Me too. Thanks for the tips, and thanks for watching!

[@Semyon_Semyonych]

BTW, I'm not sure about other BP revolvers, but I've noticed that both, Pietta and Uberti do not handle well charges of 30 grains and above of the FFFG powder. I've found that a 25-27 grain load of FFFG would just perfect for those Italian replicas.

[@SmallCaliberArmsReview]

I've heard the accuracy can vary with the same charge but in different guns. Figuring out what your particular gun likes, just gives you an excuse to go shoot more! Thanks for watching!

[@alexm2833]

His kit does help alot with making nice cartridges. I made them with a tapered dowel before and my wife was alot better than me at making them all perfect, she just has a light touch. Now i can too with this tool.

[@SmallCaliberArmsReview]

The right tools always help! Thanks for watching!

[@dianathaharris9153]

Enjoyed your video just purchased a 1868 so I ordered kit can't to make some cartridges

[@SmallCaliberArmsReview]

Hope you enjoy it! Thanks for watching!

[@SmallCaliberArmsReview]

@jeremy clarksons zesty drink I know what you meant. Actually I didn't even notice, lol.

[@Buddygold9509]

Excellent video. I’m still on the fence about lube. On a hot day here in Southeast Texas, that stuff will melt and run right out getting lube all in the holster. Not sure how the old west folks handled that. Especially if the pistol was worn in the belt without a holster. Make a mess in your britches. If you shoot right away, no problem. But, carry it around all day in a belt or holster, it’s probably gonna melt and run out.

[@SmallCaliberArmsReview]

I haven't used any of Dustin's "Guns of the West" lube yet, but I believe it's not supposed to be as runny in the hot weather.

[@Buddygold9509]

@@SmallCaliberArmsReview great. I’ll give it a try. Thanks

[@357bullfrog9]

What if you took bore butter and just rub it around the top of the cartridge it's self before loading ?

[@SmallCaliberArmsReview]

It would probably be a little less messy but the ram rod would kind of squeeze it around some too. Dustin Winegar of Guns of the West actually heats up his tin of bullet lube and dips the lead of the finished cartridge into it. When the lube cools, it firms up and stays in place on the projectile. Thanks for watching!

[@jerseyred9554]

Enjoyed it Richard. Wonder why some masterbatter had to hit the thumbs down button, but

[@SmallCaliberArmsReview]

They say there's a complaint box in Heaven, because some people just can't be pleased! It's ok, I've got the skin of a rhinoceros!

[@steveferris663]

Being an Artilleryman, I use Dustin’s kit to construct “powder bags”. I drop in a cardboard fiber wad over the powder and glue. These are carried to the match in an old styrofoam cartridge box; and 10 loaded in the cylinders under ball; but not capped. 60 total (for a 6 stage match). At the loading table, I simply drop in the charges, seat the balls, and use a snail capper. Amazingly fast C&B reloads. I should note that APP/FFg is a NO LUBE powder; so that little cardboard overpowder wad makes me feel much safer. Last match 60 for 60! No cap jams. No misfires. No hang fires. No cap loss. No sympathetic chain-fires. No cleaning. Of course, I, not the Piettas, nor the cartridges did miss 1 Target! Clean matches are highly overrated. GREAT KIT!

[@SmallCaliberArmsReview]

Now that's pretty cool! Gluing the roundballs to the paper cartridges can be a real pain but I like the way you're doing it. What is "APP" powder? Thanks for watching!

[@steveferris663]

@@SmallCaliberArmsReview, American Pioneer Powder, use to be called Clean Shot.

[@SmallCaliberArmsReview]

@@steveferris663 I'll have to see if I can find some.

[@steveferris663]

@@SmallCaliberArmsReview, yes, I agree it is difficult to glue the ball into the paper. The powder bag also transports without damage as there is no ball weight. And, a simple drop in and finger push before ramming the ball home.

[@DarkAngel051372]

Can I order black powder online in Canada

[@clongshanks5206]

Would coffee filters work with this kit? I don’t see many videos on using them, but I’ve got a bunch of old filters lying around 😉

[@SmallCaliberArmsReview]

I believe they will. I think there are a few people that commented they've used them on Dustin's channel @GunsoftheWest

[@joshgrove1042]

A powder flask, bullets, and lube or wads, doesn't seem like that much. Is it really that much faster reloading at the range?

[@SmallCaliberArmsReview]

If you have plenty of paper cartridges made up ahead of time, it's quite a bit faster. Making them up ahead of time is another story. During the Civil War, women and children would make them up for the soldiers, and they would be shipped out to the front lines. Thanks for watching!

[@russellguyton3109]

My .44 kit was delivered today.

[@SmallCaliberArmsReview]

Very cool! When you get the hang of it, you can make them pretty fast. Enjoy and be safe!

[@mikecup212]

Excellent, I just received my kit, I still have to order the one for my walker. But my question is where did you buy that coat? I need one of those. Thanks for the video

[@SmallCaliberArmsReview]

I got mine from a local place but the same ones are sold at Boot Barn. They're a pretty heavy coat and pretty nice too. Thanks for watching.

[@Kekker1944]

Only thing I found Not right was the .44 Caliber Powder was Not 25 Gr it was 22.2 Gr the .36 Powder was 13.6 Gr Not 16 Gr. But I fixed them to cast the right Gr. I am VERY Happy with way this works and how Easy it is.

[@SmallCaliberArmsReview]

Interesting, I never thought to check the actual volume but they seem to shoot great and I'm not even sure I would be able to tell the difference in 2+ grains. They do make it easy to form the paper cartridge though. Thanks for the info and thanks for watching!

[@wraith67]

If it's cigarette rolling paper, you don't need to use the stick glue when rolling the initial tube, it's already got an edge with glue (and licking that is faster than using the stick). If you're using hair rolling papers (which I think are a little more resilient than cigarette rolling paper), you would want to use the stick glue forming the tube. If you've got a powder flask with a pre-measured spout on it, you wouldn't need to fiddle with pouring the powder into the red thingy, using the funnel, etc, you can just dump the right amount of powder directly into the paper shell.

[@SmallCaliberArmsReview]

If you try to use the cigarette rolling papers glued edge, it wont be long enough to go around (slightly larger diameter than a cigarette). I do need to get a couple different spouts for my flask, that would definitely make it quicker and easier. Thank you for watching!

[@kerbygator]

Is there any less chance of the pre made cartridges not firing, than say the normal way of loading black powder?

[@SmallCaliberArmsReview]

I won't say "no", but I've never experienced it and I don't know of anyone else that has. It does have one more layer to burn through. Thanks for watching!

[@kerbygator]

Thanks for responding so fast.@@SmallCaliberArmsReview

[@SmallCaliberArmsReview]

I try my best! Thank you for taking the time to watch!@@kerbygator

[@charlesc.plumley9755]

Hello Hey what brand cigarette papers are used ? And are they Nitrated already ? Th

[@SmallCaliberArmsReview]

I'm not really sure what the brand is but no, they're not nitrated.

[@denisdegamon8224]

I already have this kit with both 36 and 44 cal dies. I know the 36 cal measure dispenses 18 grains while the shorter 44 cal dispenses 25 grains. How many grains does the 44 walker meadure dispense? I am thinking about ordering it next.

[@SmallCaliberArmsReview]

The Walker holds 40 grains of powder. It's not the maximum load the walker can handle but its a safe load with good accuracy Dustin says.

[@lilfear]

can you please put a link or title of that manual? I would love to get my hands on it...I can't find anywhere by what I searched

[@SmallCaliberArmsReview]

This one is from Taylors but it's for Pietta. I'm assuming you're wanting the loading chart? Here ya go! Thanks for watching too! www.taylorsfirearms.com/media/site/pietta_black_powder_manual.pdf

[@steveinkentucky]

If you cut the paper again, it fits perfectly with nothing to trim off.

[@SmallCaliberArmsReview]

I'll give it a try, thanks.

[@CAESARbonds]

Good raw rolling papers.

[@SmallCaliberArmsReview]

They will work.

[@duybear4023]

Does anyone load the wads in there too?

[@SmallCaliberArmsReview]

I don't think there would be enough room in the cartridge for a wad too. The paper would also insulate the wad from the barrel a little bit anyway.

[@denisdegamon8224]

@@SmallCaliberArmsReview I would bet a very thin wad of bees wax foundation would easily fit over the powder. I used them in my 4570 loads. I also have a lube ribbon maker in both 1/16" and 1/8"....the thinner ribbon might also work as a grease cookie. I cut them using a modified empty .45 shell casing.

[@SmallCaliberArmsReview]

@@denisdegamon8224 I guess it could work.

[@d2nasty696]

Do they leave any deposits in the cylinders after some use? And how clean do they burn?

[@SmallCaliberArmsReview]

There is some paper left behind but I didn't have any problems removing it. I'm told the paper can be nitrated and it will burn completely away, I have not tried it yet. Thank you for watching!

[@williammccaslin8527]

Yeah Dustins cool, follow him to, BP is the cheapest shooting you can do right now, It out of all shooting is my faveorite, Something about hunting with BP flips my trigger, always has, but I'm into old school side hammer percussion rifles, nothing wrong with new school, an I hunt hogs with a 3rd model Dragoon, lots of bang, thx for the vid.

[@SmallCaliberArmsReview]

Hopefully I'll get a chance to put together my Crockett rifle soon. I'd like to do a video on the build and taking to the range too. Thanks for watching William!

[@williammccaslin8527]

@@SmallCaliberArmsReview Now that would be cool, can't wait, thx

[@svernwarunos546]

What a cool range. Is it your own?

[@SmallCaliberArmsReview]

Thank you! Yes, it is.

[@johnmcdonald587]

Cigarette paper isn't the best to form combustible's with. Linen-based paper was used originally. I've found the 13.5# Bienfang Graphics 360 works well. The paper should be treated with potassium nitrate to ensure complete combustion. Cigarette paper is rice paper that has been treated with a flame retardant and will leave un-burnt shards of paper behind in the chambers. Original cartridges were coated at the factory with a blend of beeswax and mutton tallow covering the bullet up to the junction of the paper. This thin coating was enough to keep the fouling down on the cylinder pin. Original cartridges were only manufactured with conical bullets.

[@SmallCaliberArmsReview]

Using round balls was more difficult to put together, conical bullets would have been easier to assemble for sure. Nitriding paper can be a little dangerous for the average person to do, but I agree, it would have worked much better. I think there may also be laws against shipping nitrided paper too. Thanks for commenting and thanks for watching!

[@johnmcdonald587]

@@SmallCaliberArmsReview Nitrating paper is as easy as making hot cocoa. Food-grade powdered Potassium Nitrate can be had in the food canning section of the larger supermarkets or on-line. I started making combustible rounds over 40 years ago. With the new Eras Gone conical molds my cartridges are virtual duplicates of the originals and operate accordingly.

[@SmallCaliberArmsReview]

@@johnmcdonald587 2hat do you use for a cartridge former?

[@johnmcdonald587]

@@SmallCaliberArmsReview I'm using hand-carved hard wood dowels like I learned back in the late '70's. Then crunched the numbers to create the flat cone pattern. I load both Navy and Army caliber cartridges identical to the issue military specs. These modern former designs take all the guess work out of the process. Tim Shaner at Mesa Winds also has a good former machine-turned out of aluminum. When I get ready to crank up another production run I'm going to give one of them a try. I have over a thousand made up tubes put away.

[@SmallCaliberArmsReview]

@@johnmcdonald587 you definitely keep the traditional way alive, that's pretty cool! I'm going to look into the paper and nitriding process you recommended. Thanks for your very knowledgeable advice. I hope you've subscribed and can offer more input in the future.

[@josephhaack5711]

Dip the ball and cartridge in a beeswax lamb tallow tin (heated)

[@SmallCaliberArmsReview]

I would pan lube if I was doing more than just a couple. It is the quickest and most uniform way to do it. Thanks for watching!

[@DLB1858]

The ball end? Or entire cartridge. I’ve never been clear on that

[@josephhaack5711]

Just the ball end and 1/8” i to the cartridge

[@SmallCaliberArmsReview]

Just the ball end.

[@ArgoPower]

so much lube is completely not needed for chainfire.

[@SmallCaliberArmsReview]

No, if the lead ball is the right size and it shears off a small lead ring all the way around the chamber, then it should be sealed properly.

[@taurushipointenthusiast1306]

Awesome job Dustin did Now I will mention I still use my wads between powder and ball drops in nice Not so much a fan of drooling pit bulls or trying to keep grease/bore butter from slobbering all over pistol grips and trigger whilst I try and knock off High Fructose Syrup gang hahahahahahahahahahah....

[@SmallCaliberArmsReview]

Lol, thanks for watching!

[@JasonHurricane]

Its kind of useless since i saw a video of a guy making paper cartridges with xl cigarette paper and pellet powder

[@SmallCaliberArmsReview]

What makes you think that? You need something to form the paper around.

[@NotSoDumb]

I've been shooting alot of them, all from this kit. I punched a bunch of felt disks that I simply finger smear a small amount of bore butter on with my fingers. I make the paper tubes about 1/16" of an inch longer. 25 grains of Tripple Seven powder goes into the cartridge, followed by the lubed wad, pack it down a bit then glue and place a ball on top. I put my nipple pin in each cylinder prior to placing cap. This makes sure the nipple is clear and exposes the powder to the cap fire. Cigarette papers are better and leave little to clean out. No hang fires just good shooting. Try this with rice cig paper, burns really clean and the wad does a good job of wiping the cylinder and barrel.

[@SmallCaliberArmsReview]

I usually use the pre-lubricated felt wads when I'm loading loose powder, I haven't tried it in a paper cartridge. I may have to give it a try someday. Thanks for the comment and thanks for watching!