MLM TOP FAILS #64 | One of the most predatory posts I’ve ever seen, major inventory loading

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[@embyrr922]

We are not a pyramid, said the pyramid, pyramiding pyramidally.

[@ririjet361]

I love comments that make me spit out my coffee in the morning 😆

[@chibiktsn3]

Okay, that got a laugh out of me

[@alicias.8482]

😂😂😂

[@cloudstalker8956]

we are not a scam said the scam scaming scamdally akskks You Made me laugh

[@HippyNinjaSimmy]

😂😂😂😂

[@Joanna-hq2el]

As someone In recovery from a very serious fentanyl addiction I truly appreciate you calling this out. When you first get clean you’re looking for purpose and a chance to prove yourself and this is so unacceptable for her to do.

[@Wfseemann]

Congratulations on your recovery journey! May you find strength and peace!

[@kristita_888]

I’m so happy that you are in recovery! You deserve only the best. Recovery takes strength most people will never understand. Congratulations! ❤

[@rachaelbrown3656]

I have no idea who you are, and you have no idea who I am, but I’m proud of you for trying your best. Addiction is more difficult to overcome than anyone will realise, so well done, and take care of yourself 💛

[@nat9527]

That's genuinely incredible, I'm so proud of you. I hope that your journey continues smoothly and that you live your life to the fullest ❤

[@DagmarDollmaier]

I am so proud of you! As a meth addict of over a decade with over 23 years' recovery I know how hard it is. Agreed that # heroinaddiction woman is really gross. Like wtf.

[@NWAWskeptic]

It’s a triangle scheme. They don’t make enough revenue for three dimensions

[@michellelynngarceau3851]

Lmfao ok I honestly loved this! 😂😂😂

[@natashaching7370]

😂😂☠️☠️☠️

[@theloverlyladylo9158]

Why would anyone brag about having so much oil that their great-grandchildren have a lifetime supply? Instead of generational wealth, it’s generational oil.

[@BewareTheLilyOfTheValley]

And not even the kind of oil that can make you massively wealthy, this is just wasteful, lol. It'll expire before the grandkids are even born 😂

[@samhainreads]

Creating oily wealth 😂😂

[@sunbeam3658]

@@BewareTheLilyOfTheValley ughh imagine growing up thinking you're an oil heir and then you find out what the actual oil is 😂😂😂

[@LisaHarvey16]

That is so gross.

[@msnglink1]

"Mmmm rancid oil... Thanks grandma"

[@ChristyLynn313]

I work in a gas station, I have a regular customer who I've had for about 6 years who is in the process of recovery, she has my phone number and I've seen her go through a lot, but as somebody who lost a sibling to addiction I have a special place in my heart for people who are struggling, so I don't judge and I love them unconditionally. One day my customer came in and was telling me about how she's been clean for 6 months on that day, I told her I'm proud of her and we started talking about life, unbeknownst to us there was another customer in the store listening to our conversation, she always stepped aside when another customer came up and we'd continue after the customer left, but this customer was different, she mentioned how she "overheard" the conversation and how her aunt's husband's daughter was going through addiction and the only thing that helped her was being charge of her own life, by investing in herself and starting her own business, I was internally rolling my eyes knowing where it was going, I was surprised that my customer (first one) said, no thank you I don't do MLM's! didn't give this lady the opportunity to even say the name of it, the hun was stunned and retorted, it's not an MLM it's a business opportunity we do social selling. My first customer said, if it sounds like an MLM and if it looks like a MLM it's likely a MLM and I'm not interested, I let out an audible laugh and the hun paid for her things and left. I started talking to customer 1 again and she said, she didn't know anything about MLM's before but started watching this blond lady on KZbin and learned so much about how to beware of them, I asked her what the KZbinrs name was and she pulled out her phone and it was you! I laughed and said I have been following you for a year now and we talked about how kind you are even to huns who you always give grace to.. best conversation this week! I kinda hope she reads this in your comments too but I really wanted to say you make a difference in a small town in southern Michigan

[@LisaHarvey16]

That is a great story.

[@maryeckel9682]

The Hannah Effect!

[@Swissmiss8899]

I’m in Columbia City, IN, and am familiar with Southern MI. Nice people 😊

[@raniressler]

That’s awesome! Good for you! Also, fellow Southern Michigan gal here! Growing up in a small town, I didn’t know anything about MLMs. Some out of town friends tried getting me to sell for them, but I’ve always wanted to sell my own hand made things and not something that another large company has made.

[@michellelynngarceau3851]

How fantastic is that!

[@singleplayercontent8659]

Lol the kid coughing in the background as she shows off her cleaning supplies

[@alisonferrara8025]

I just thought the same thing 😅 oops!

[@dawn8293]

Question 1: have you ever spent $200 on something that your didn't really need? Question 2: wOuLd YoU LiKe To?

[@nightcoreeclub]

😂😂😂 i was answering no to all the questions but she pitched anyways. just like real life

[@LyraBattersea]

Nothing says “I’m not a pyramid scheme” like explaining for fifteen minutes how you’re not a pyramid scheme

[@LisaHarvey16]

100% right.

[@sarahburns4917]

Love it when the people who make my popcorn also make toilet bowl cleaner. Sounds like that’s a solid business model.

[@alisharyan3324]

That oil hun really thought she was doing something using Elyse Myers lifetime supply sound. All she was showing was probably 10’s of thousands of dollars WASTED. Especially considering Elyse was talking about being freaked out by lifetime supplies of anything haha

[@hannahanderson2776]

I knew that voice was familiar!

[@BewareTheLilyOfTheValley]

See, that's what I thought they were doing, saying that they have no need for owning that much product as a "shame on me" kind of statement. I didn't know the voice speaking wasn't the person who made the video, but the contradiction between what the MLM rep wanted to convey and the message I got from it is hilarious 😂

[@ashleynelson500]

100% she would 😂

[@liftpanic]

I knew for sure that it was Elyse Myers' voice, and I thank you for this context....I was a little worried!!

[@thetaylorwallace]

Okay, I’m glad I’m not the only one who thought that was Elyse’s voice. And that I was right. Lol

[@annalohr7451]

Substance abuse counselor here. The recruiting post targeted at individuals with substance use disorders is absolutely disgusting. One thing common to see in recovery is “process addictions” ie gambling, sex, work, exercise etc. The high is transferred to something more socially acceptable. That person either fell victim to it or is very calculated. Absolutely abhorrent. All my love to the recovery community and people on their journey to it. We do recover ❤

[@drexyspivey]

YES!!! My husband is an LCDC and he got pissed when he overheard that. It’s disgusting. She is purposely setting up vulnerable people for failure, offering a “dream life”. Ugh

[@LisaHarvey16]

Preying on vulnerable people is awful.

[@CrashBandiscoot]

CRM here and I was APPALLED. As a recovering addict and working as a recovery mentor I was super offended.

[@azlizzie]

What are all these acronyms? 😳

[@Momz0r]

​@@azlizzieI also want to know 😅 Sometimes I can figure them out, others are all Greek to me!

[@bullcrapptv]

"We're not a pyramid, we're just SHAPED like one" ... 🤣

[@stanleyknife3516]

My brother worked at a gas station, some Avon lady dropped off an order form, they threw it away and she came back like uh I need that back. And they were like we don't have it?? And she was like oh. Girl what did you expect 😭 why do they do this

[@BewareTheLilyOfTheValley]

Do they even write on it to not throw it away? Well...even if they do, don't distribute something you're not okay with being tossed 😂.

[@tarajh]

They drop off something nobody asked for, and just assume the recipient magically knows they're supposed to save or return it? That's so bizarre!

[@HamazingKayliee]

​@@tarajh It's an order form. She wanted it back to place the order. The gas station employees didn't fill it out because they didn't want anything, so the hun isn't getting commission.

[@Telltalesign]

Bruh, I love Avon bra for real. 🥹🥹 lols, my neighbor is a member of Avon and as a good neighbor, i purchased most of my undies from her brochure. I don’t like their make up products though. This is of course assuming that Avon in my country is same as Avon in the US. 😆

[@dariakim]

@@Telltalesign I was thinking the same thing. I'm from Romania,and here we don't have that door to door sale practice. Avon was really popular when I was growing up but my experience with it is: you have an aquaintance or a friend who has the brochure, you know that they can order for you, you ask to browse through the catalog and if you want to buy something, you tell them and they place the order for you. But I guess they are very predatory in the US, making you feel bad if you don't want to order their products, yuck! I understand how that is off-putting

[@MurdaMeg]

As a recovering addict myself (6 years clean off opiates/heroin next month) it makes me SICK to know this woman is using her recovery in that way.

[@greenie2390]

Well done!

[@nicolemay4427]

Congratulations, that’s no easy feat

[@chelseascreatures]

People like to throw "just" around too much, if "just" isn't followed by "$5" you've lost me.

[@jaymel4691]

Be careful, that's how Paparazzi ropes people in to buying their $5 jewelry!

[@LisaHarvey16]

Me too.hahaha

[@Swissmiss8899]

I’ve worked hard to eradicate that word from my vocabulary. It’s used negatively as a minimizer in most situations but I do agree that the phrase “Just $5!” Has a great sound 😂😊😊😊

[@chippy04now]

​@Swissmiss8899 me too. I had to catch myself using it in work emails!

[@chachiem]

So many essential oils.... I wonder how many are "expired" or have lost some of their benefits just sitting on the shelf with the lifetime supply.

[@angiechristinefitness]

I never thought of the fact they may expire… can anyone confirm? I’ll Google

[@angiechristinefitness]

Hi I’m back. So they don’t expire… exactly but they do lose potency and just become a smell good. (Or bad)

[@chachiem]

@Angie Christine Fitness that is why I wrote expire is in "". If they aren't already diluted in carrier oil, they may last a little longer, but if diluted, the oil will go rancid. Then it smells like rancid oiled flowers.

[@amandag5072]

@@angiechristinefitnessYes, essential oils expire. Most have a shelf life of about 2 years if kept in optimum conditions - ie a cool dark place. And you cannot always tell when an oil has gone rancid.

[@erinbailey4631]

I’m so glad Zeke decided to grace us with his presence before the video was over ❤

[@CieraMychele]

Came for the horror stories, stayed for zeke❤️ Hannah is cool too

[@vapor4]

Zekes butt to be precise 😝

[@michellemoore6154]

Yes! Some lady put an Avon booklet/catalog in my mailbox, and it went right in the garbage where it belongs! That lady kept coming back to my apartment asking for it back and berating me for throwing it away! Ma'am you relinquished junk mail in MY mailbox, you get what you get with that risk! I told her trash day was in 1 day, and it's somewhere in the recycling bin. Help yourself!😂

[@schrdngrskat3847]

Not to mention that it's technically a federal offense to put things in people's mailboxes unless you're a mail carrier. 😅😅

[@BrokenFootRailfan]

That’s a great response! 😂

[@maryeckel9682]

Fast forward to Avon lady digging in the recycling bin for her brochure....I got sucked into Avon and lost about $500 because of brochures and samples and low sales. Why do they think anyone will keep buying cosmetics every month? And with drugstore cosmetics coming in hot, their market is miniscule.

[@montananerd8244]

Omg I had this problem in my neighborhood, but the Avon rep was someone important in another field, I needed to network with her, so it worked out that I got brownie points for getting the catalog back to her. But it was so weird, like lady, you're a very respected professional, this is not the side hustle you want. And you gotta just accept that losses are high with brochures and catalogs.

[@tempyst409]

Everytime she said small investment, I wanted to snap. $200 to mostly everyone is a lot! That's my phone bill +, my electric bill +, & it's just $25 shy of being half of my rent. That's a huge investment! & if it went south, most wouldn't recover from it. I hate the false positive promotion, it's disgusting entrapment

[@LisaHarvey16]

$200 is a lot of money to lose for the majority.

[@spacemanta]

I joined Herbalife to lose weight. My bank account sure got lighter.

[@jaymel4691]

As someone who was briefly in Avon long ago, they probably left an Avon catalog. Avon calls them "brochures" but they are full catalogs. There is no order form with the brochure, it just has the rep's phone number/email/website on the back for placing an order. It's very old school. I suspect those Avon reps were asking for the brochures back on their own because they paid at least a couple bucks for each one and probably aren't making anything back from their investment.

[@LisaHarvey16]

That is so true.

[@amandag5072]

The brochures are supposed to have order forms with them.

[@jillmeltzer2377]

This reminds me that I NEED to send you my recovery faker horror story! I’ve started to typing it up a few times but always get overcome by anger. But that MLM fail was just the boost I needed to remind me how important it is for people in recovery to be aware of this stuff so they don’t fall prey to it.

[@yogadork_namaste]

Hugs, friend! I'm sorry someone preyed upon you during a vulnerable time. Your story would be appreciated if you ever feel up to it!

[@HarmoniusLife]

I would love to hear your story. But make sure you don't forsake your own mental health.

[@maryeckel9682]

Ohhhh, that sounds bad. Inflitrating what should be a safe place to sell and recruit???? If it would be healing for you, share; if not, wait!

[@greenie2390]

When I get mad, I type it out and let it sit. Come back in a few days and maybe you can fix it then. But first I have to get the anger out. I don't care about spelling, grammar, or anything. Just go with the flow, then let it rest. It is amazing what happens to your mental frame of mind. It is already down, now just clean it up. I now do the same thing with texts. If I get irritated at someone, I type it out. Let it sit in draft form, then a day later, revisit it and probably remove a few sentences, and then maybe send it. Then usually there are no emotions or regrets. Just my way of dealing with irritating people.

[@AwesometownUSA]

ohh dear, that recovery one is rough. I’m 5+ years sober myself, but I used to be heavily addicted to intravenous “H” and “C” - I lost my brother and several of my closest friends to it before I was able to turn the page myself, and I’m super lucky to even be alive. Hearing the way this person is using recovery to pitch their “opportunity” might be the slimiest, downright _gross_ things I’ve heard YET on this channel (and as everyone knows, the competition is fierce!) In terms of the prospective audience’s vulnerability, one big factor is that severe addiction tends to up-end one’s career: you lose your job, and it becomes increasingly difficult to find and keep employment, so once you are IN recovery and trying to put your life back together, you might have big gaps in your work history / resume, and then it’s even MORE difficult to find legitimate, gainful employment. Somebody in that position might be more inclined to see these kinds of “be your own boss” MLM pitches as their only option to earn a living, and be more susceptible to it. So sketchy D:

[@LisaHarvey16]

It is terrible praying on vulnerable people.

[@maryeckel9682]

You nailed it.

[@Carebearritual]

stellar job getting off that shit, it’s gotta be hard. hope you’re congratulating urself every day if you can

[@CieraMychele]

Not the kid with a nasty cough in the background of her melaluca pitch 😂 im dead

[@BewareTheLilyOfTheValley]

I heard that! 😂😂😂

[@sarawithoutanh8302]

Omg them using elyse Meyer’s voice for the oil inventory is infuriating! I’m sure she would HATE this!

[@abhutchison00]

I was hunting for this. Like… is nobody going to mention its Elyse meyers?

[@melaniewhybrow]

Gosh I wish I found these videos this time last year. Thank you for everything that you've done. I was/am a part of Monat and I've tried leaving before but felt so guilty about it so I went back. However, watching your videos makes me realise I need out!!

[@maryeckel9682]

Be strong and do it for you!

[@anittadrink]

hope you get out without much financial or personal loss, sis, good luck! ❤ proud of ya

[@badgsten]

Just watching this video now in September - wondering how you are doing? I hope you have been able to leave fully and are doing well x

[@CatsOverBrats]

It takes a certain type of vile person to target people recovering from an addiction.

[@elizabethwashabaugh5948]

looked up melaleuca or whatever , love how they say “eco friendly”… everything comes in plastic

[@erinesque1889]

My mum used to be in Melaleuca; and she still thinks the products are amazing. She used to have me buy things from them; and I tended to buy only candles from them because some of them smelled nice. I remember once she got a check from them for $15. Unfortunately, she’s not aware of what MLMs really are, but she hasn’t ever become a full blown hun thankfully.

[@LisaHarvey16]

Thank goodness for that.

[@jewdy8915]

I use their laundry stuff and bathroom cleaner, but ordering them more than twice a year is unnecessary.

[@M_SC]

If they weren’t so predatory that would be a perfectly fine way for them to do business. I knew people who did MLMs that way. No selling just “here’s a catalogue” And then you if your were bored you looked at it and then 2 Weeks later they asked you if you wanted to buy anything and maybe once I bought a lip gloss. I never even learned their name they were just someone at work. There was no pressure. They probably made a few bucks and didn’t annoy me.

[@JD-xz1mx]

Like a decade ago, my brother and sister in law got into Melaleuca and tried to get me and my wife into it. Brought us to a pitch meeting. On the way out my wife asked "so, what do you think?" I respond "Barely legal pyramid scheme?" She answers "yep" We ended up buying some cleaners out of pity. The primary angle on the sales pitch was getting a cut of the sales of all of the other people you sign up as reps, as well as a cut of the sales of all of the people THEY sign up as reps, up to the seventh generation. Literally just...... describing a pyramid scheme out loud and giving that as a reason in favor of joining.

[@problematique9389]

"It's not like one of those MLM pyramid schedes, its a cone model".... Thats literally what one Hun told me.

[@Texasmommaof5]

Seeing all those oils gave me anxiety. Almost 2 years ago I bought a set of oils from a non mlm company. I have only emptied two bottles…I bought a large set. I can’t imagine being required to buy more each month.

[@andreakokko5246]

It Gave me anxiety too. I have patchouli and frankincense bottles that used almost everyday for a little over two years: they are like not even half empty yet

[@LisaHarvey16]

Me either.

[@montananerd8244]

Yeah, I love good EOs, use them daily, but I don't buy more than 4/year usually.

[@hannahsypniewski7356]

I feel like that's the reason they push huns to use oils in foods and other unsafe ways. If you're just using them for aromatherapy a bottle can last months, and you only need to grab two or three of your favorite scents.

[@jessicabillhardt8776]

It happens easily for inventory loading in YL because they give you free products instead of paying you.

[@LisaHarvey16]

Free products instead of paying you how awful.

[@maryeckel9682]

And if you're a hoarder....

[@maryeckel9682]

​@@LisaHarvey16 and it's usually expired stuff

[@Alyse_bell]

I remember reading somewhere that the actual CEO of Melaleuca claimed he hated MLMs and started melaleuca cause he wanted to start a company that wasn’t one. So that’s why the reps think it’s not when it absolutely is.

[@LisaHarvey16]

Even the top tells lies.

[@montananerd8244]

My parents lived in the town where Melaleuca is based, they had very weird experiences there, even in the 60s. Fun fact, that's also where the Cranberry Juice tik tok skateboarder lives and it's a very small town lol! I was extra excited when he went viral cuz I knew how mad it must have made the people who think they are better than him.

[@hummingbirdchen]

The Avon brochure in the letterbox trick is suuuuper old school. I remember it used to happen life 30 years ago when I was a kid. I guess it harks back to the old "door to door Avon lady" days. One thing you didn't touch on, is that they're expecting you to put the brochure back in your box, at which time they GO INTO YOUR MAILBOX to fish out their brochure. When i was a kid none of us had locks on our mailboxes so I guess anyone could technically do that. But it seems such an invasion to have some random seller expecting I'd let them fossick around in my mail to get their spam back!!

[@amandamontenero1279]

My mom is in melaleuca and she's told me you aren't allowed to say the company name when promoting or trying to get people's interest on a public site like that. Like it's against their policy unless your privately talking with/messaging a person themselves. In her words "they don't like to advertise" whatever that means 🙄

[@MrPAULONEAL]

It's easier to fool people than it is to convince them that they are being fooled.

[@ourlittlepath]

Melaleuca also goes by The Patriot Box club too. 🙄 I hate how they try to be all secretive about the name of their company.

[@maryeckel9682]

That's Melaleuca? Wow. I have seen that around.

[@ourlittlepath]

@@maryeckel9682 yup 😒

[@ashleydanielson3222]

I hate it too! I follow a lot of people on Instagram who sell it and I like to comment that they are selling Melaleuca and how weird it is that they won’t say it.

[@ourlittlepath]

@@ashleydanielson3222 yes it’s so weird they are not upfront with who the company is!

[@Weissguys6]

Oh my goodness! Thanks for letting me know this. I had no idea.

[@aliceobukhova7604]

“Insanely affordable “. Insane, yes. Affordable, NOT

[@Brycesaggiebabe]

My friend is in the shop club. She thinks they are the only healthy non-chemical products. She always posts her monthly buys. I tried telling her it's not that natural, and the brand literally means Tea tree. I won't try telling her she is getting ripped off.

[@stormieo4252]

Hannah!! So happy to see you back :) I hope you and AJ are enjoying being parents.

[@aaranquincey7613]

I was a Melaleuca member. Got sucked in when I was poor as a way to “make disposable income”. It took me years to realize it’s a pyramid scheme. When I joined, the anti-MLM movement wasn’t as strong. I wish I had your videos back then. I most likely wouldn’t have been influenced into it

[@shawnascott2787]

I had the same story with Melaleuca. A friend of mine roped me in. I liked the products but it drove me crazy that you had to spend I think 35 points every month which ends up being around almost 70$. I quit probably 2 years ago and I’m still going through all the rest of my stash. Maybe another year and it’ll be gone lol! I was apart of it for probably 7/8years.

[@aaranquincey7613]

@@shawnascott2787 same with me! I do miss the Calmacids when my stomach is upset, but everything else was a waste of money. Still working through the cleaning supplies. The 35 points a month was nuts, but also paying like $20 for shipping/handling?! It was insane

[@sweettaterfries]

Same here…

[@czarownicaikoniki]

Just stoped binge watching old videos to watch new one 😸

[@sambywater9334]

I'm in the UK and those Avon catalogue drops are rife here!! I throw them straight away. One time an Avon lady came knocking on my door asking for her catalogue back, the absolute cheek of these people

[@HarmoniusLife]

I would just be rude and say. It's in the trash where it belongs. I just don't get why they do that.

[@amandag5072]

It isn't an absolute cheek - they are just trying to earn some money, and brochure dropping was how sales used to be done, pre -interenet. I was an Avon rep many years ago, anda fter posting a brochure into a letter box the resident threatened to smash my head and my young son's head in with a hammer (he was with me on the brochure drop). He said I had woken him up just being putting the brochure in the letter box. I had to call the police, and he was arrested. I'm not sure why you think it's fine to laugh or abuse people doing this. If you'd have told me when I was rep that you'd binned it and were not interested, I'd have crossed off your address and never come back.

[@PolishPocahontass]

Every pyramid scheme has told me it wasn’t a pyramid scheme

[@clairekortbawi5659]

Knowing you're married to a serviceman, when you mentioned Costco it reminded me of a girl in boot camp with me who mentioned amongst her reasons for joining, "Now I'll get to shop at AAFES!" We teased her a lot about joining the Parris Island Price Club 😂

[@kateemma22]

My grandmother used to do Avon. Their glossy little 25-35 page magazines where you got the order form and product numbers were always charged for. You were told not to leave them unattended because people tended to throw them out so... Avon couple, you effed up.

[@susanmacmaster5804]

So glad I've found your channel!! I joined doTERRA years ago just to get the oils wholesale. (I never knew it was an MLM and I really like the oils 😂) My friend had a party and thankfully,I never heard from the hun afterwards other than to ask if I liked the oils. I guess her heart wasn't in it. 😂

[@BlueDoes93]

Melaleuca customer here! (Working on transitioning away from their products but there is a complicating factor I will explain at the end.) To answer your question - we are told it is a good deal. They do the Kohls thing where they jack the price up and pretend you are getting a great discount therefore a good deal. Us Midwesterners love to brag about a good deal! Complicating factor explanation- I literally grew up with melaleuca in my house to the point that friends remember joking about it as young kids so my body is very used to their products. I have a medical condition where I get allergic reactions VERY easily from things that most people would be bothered by so transitioning out of melaleuca will take me a few years but I'm in the process right now.

[@ambermason114]

I once joined a Facebook group that was supposed to be just for finding good deals online for kid stuff. It turned out to be a Melaleuca advertising space. Every few days, an admin would post about amazing cleaning products but wouldn't disclose where they were from. ("The company doesn't like us to share the name publicly." 😂 Ok, sure thing.) I took the bait to confirm my suspicions and found out it was Melaleuca. I was immediately kicked out of the group after expressing my dissatisfaction that they were basically tricking people into an MLM pitch. 🤪

[@Itried20takennames]

“Order on the…online wellness site, or that shopping club I work for”. Just the fact she doesn’t just say the specific company name is a red flag…..most legit companies want as much name exposure for their brand name as possible.

[@emu168]

I love that the Avon card was pre-printed. Clearly knowing full well everyone is going to ‘forget’ to leave the brochure outside. 😂

[@amandag5072]

As a former Avon rep in the UK, I used to get 90 to 95% of the brochures back, with the vast majority being left out on the day requested.

[@nealreiersen6823]

I had someone try to sell me melaluca door to door try to tell me its cheaper, and i looked at him and said i can buy shampoo for $3 at walmart and yours is $7 dont tell me its cheaper

[@bleukettu4521]

I had a friend that went through a rough patch after the birth of her first child and had to quit her job. She got roped into the LuLa Roe scam while she was recovering and it almost broke them financially. My mom almost got roped into Young Living a few years ago as well. Thankfully she asked me to look into it first before she got in too deep and when I showed her it was a scam she dipped out, but it's crazy how skeezy these companies are. I have known several people who have literally been destroyed by these companies. They prey on good, well meaning, hard working people and wreck their lives.

[@krystleboss8573]

Avon reps leaving catalogues unsolicited & then expecting them back is very 90’s Avon… what century are these folks living in again?

[@Kaleyheartsmakeup]

There’s a clause or a rule that says you’re not supposed to say the name Melaluca. A family member was a part of it and told me they were told to not say the actual company name.

[@bonafidehomicide5742]

🤣 Because EVERY popular business doesn't want anyone to know their name, right? 😭😭😭

[@kaybrown4010]

Reminds me of the First Rule of Fight Club …

[@versedapologue]

Unfortunately, I did Avon for a while. No, I never made any money, lol. I don't know how it works in the US but in the UK there's almost no emphasis on recruiting but,we were charged for the catalogues/brochures, it really ate into your “commission”.

[@sahdogwrangler5594]

Yes, making you more of a consumer than a salesperson. So much for "owning" your own business!

[@LisaHarvey16]

I did Avon in the UK as well and I didn't make any money either.

[@amandag5072]

There is a huge emphasis on recruiting in Avon UK now. Back in the late 90s, early 00s, you were given a patch to work with no emphasis on recruiting, but that's all changed, the assigned areas are gone and it's recruit, recruit, recruit! They will also damage your credit rating now, as when you sign up they don't tell you that you are opening a credit account.

[@versedapologue]

@@amandag5072Wow! Glad I got out when I did!

[@Floridameerkat93]

For the last one, why didn't they include that card with the catalogue initially? Why would they wait a week to tell people they wanted them back, when most people would have already thrown them away by then?

[@LindzKayK]

Post # 2 literally makes me sick. As someone in recovery from a serious drug and alcohol addiction, this is so predatory and disgusting. No business or person is going to get or keep you sober. This disease is real and tragic and people die every day from the lack of help and information available. I just found out my friend passed away last night and he was previously sober. I cannot even count the number of friends I've lost in recovery to this disease. None of them would have lived because they joined this or any mlm. I hope the person who sent you this is doing ok and I'll be thinking of them 💗

[@maryeckel9682]

Sorry for the loss of your friend. Sending love

[@TheLondonLass]

My friend used to do Avon and she had to spend so much money on brochures etc. She genuinely wanted the brochures back because she couldn't afford them. Luckily she eventually realised this was a ridiculous business and left.

[@LisaHarvey16]

I got out of Avon as well.

[@maryeckel9682]

Same

[@Apocketfullofbs]

Same. They scammed me and I scammed them right back.

[@patriciaanderson5226]

I had a similar experience with an Avon rep a few months ago! They shoved their catalogue through my mailslot and put on it "I'll be around at x time to pick this up!" Side note, I work nights and I don't remember exactly when she came by but it was in the middle of the day when I was asleep. I have a sign on my door saying not to knock as I will be sleeping, definitely didn't deter her. I grumpily threw the stupid thing at her and told her to take her pyramid scheme elsewhere and let me sleep. She wasn't impressed lol

[@enthiegavoir5955]

Oh I've absolutely had someone use the "you can be your own boss" phrase word for word in a fake interview. Granted he was an old man in World Financial Group and I was a fresh out of uni job hunter, so he probably thought I wasn't aware of it.

[@mobabyhomeslice]

Many MLMs try to piggyback off of reputable business models. From Melaluca comparing themselves to Sam's Club or Costco, to others calling themselves "Affiliated Marketing" when that terms is actually a different thing.

[@raleighransom4561]

it is wild to me that Melaleuca is still kicking because my mom was a Melaleuca girlie starting like at least 19 years ago and was still in it like maybe five years ago at least when I mostly got her to stop trying to sell me stuff but my entire adolescence our house was fully stocked with as many of their products as we could possibly use and Mom would straight up hound us about if we needed toothpaste or deodorant at the end of the month which like I dunno about the current products but at the time the deodorant would crumble if you looked at it funny so my mom also gave me a big box of their cleaning concentrates when I was like 21 and moving into my own place which like certainly may have been a nice gesture but was probably just an excuse to ask if I needed more each month I have a very personal vendetta against Melaleuca my mom has been in many, many MLMs but it's this one I hate the absolute most

[@lyllydd]

One particularly nasty thing about Melaleuca is that when you join they ask for a blank check so they have your ROUTING NUMBER. They can sight draft your bank account and place automatic orders w/o your consent.

[@LisaHarvey16]

That is so wrong to do that.

[@lyllydd]

@@lauralaforge558 Quite correct about the combination. I had an acquaintance who was a Melaleuca hun. She got her upline to come to my apartment to try and rope me and hubby into it. We noped out as politely as we could.

[@scottgodkins2017]

Just stop. They didn’t place orders without consent. Come on bub.

[@janineblaze3417]

Had so many of those Avon catalogues put through my door over the years that and betterware were rampant over here in U.K. they were always knocking on the doors asking for them back if I remembered I put them out on the doorstep but I didn’t always,used to drive me mad.

[@timothywells8589]

Hi I don't usually comment but just wanted to say here in the UK Amaway and other such companies always leave a brochure and a note saying when they will pick it up even if you didn't order. If you don't leave it out they keep ringing the bell.

[@ladidaohoh3168]

Hannah I know you are a big advocate for the anti Mlm community, but so far you are one of the only ones who isn’t awful, a lot of them are petty and mean, you are a shining star and I wish all the rest of them would take a page from your book. ❤️

[@myheartismadeofstars]

$200 is about what i spend on groceries rn so this is for a whole month (almost no space for food since i share my space with a few other people, all buying our own groceries)

[@daphnia6897]

Thank you, Hannah, for being such a fantastic KZbinr and a fantastic person! I feel like I have watched you for forever and you truly are as good a person irl as you are in your vids. Nothing but positivity and love! TY ❤

[@KatT89]

The avon thing is *extremely* common in the uk. Ours used to come in a sandwich bag (to protect from rain) with the note saying when to leave it on your doorstep for collection

[@maryeckel9682]

I never did the door to door, but I remember filling little sandwich bags with brochures and samples to leave around. Definitely spent more than I made.

[@KatT89]

@maryeckel9682 yeah finding out this was an MLM was very enlightening and I felt bad realising any orders I placed must have kept my neighbours in it longer 😔 that's why this type of content is so important

[@AnneMarieVoegeli]

I used to be involved with Melaleuca in the early 2000s, and YES, it is an MLM. I was on so many "training" calls it was ridiculous!!! Their products are not that great either. I still have products left.

[@LisaHarvey16]

Happy you got out.

[@AnneMarieVoegeli]

@@LisaHarvey16 Thank you!!!

[@aribigbucks]

yayyyy Hi hannah from Australia!!! i’ve been saving ur videos to binge while i’ve been in recovery after a hospital issue the other week ❤ glad to have u back and can’t wait to watch!! also have u ever thought about doing a deep dive on those get rich quick courses? could be a fun idea !

[@HannahAlonzo]

This is definitely on my list of topics to cover in the future!

[@G-L-O-R-I-A]

Ariana, hoping your recovery goes well. Hannah, sounds very interesting, but I’m sure I speak for many of your fans when I say no need for deep dives until you feel ready 😊

[@korvapuustit]

​@@G-L-O-R-I-Awtf?

[@sahdogwrangler5594]

Love your videos! I'm glad you mixed that one up with a little humor because taking advantage of people when they're down is rage inducing for me! Like the Mary Kay rep who tried to recruit at the local women's shelter! Disgusting!!!

[@LisaHarvey16]

You are right that is disgusting.

[@kristenhall283]

10:00 I'm an alcoholic and have friends and family who've struggled with drug addiction. My blood pressure is through the ROOF right now.

[@RoyIMVU]

I bought a set of oils (non mlm) to make custom scents with and I could smell it before opening- a new unopened kit. I made some oil combinations with a roller bottle and diluting them and it was a lot cheaper than mlm stuff.

[@Kika3939]

You sounded almost exactly like Jennifer Coolidge when you did the mimicky “BE YOUR OWN BOSS” 😂😂😂

[@kmorri9]

Any time I hear, "Well....what if I told you ____," it's a clear indication to RUN.

[@kimiak6886]

Ok that last bit about the Avon couple… what?!?! How embarrassing! Who goes back to the residence to get the catalog back? 😂

[@valentinabracho8708]

"We're not a pyramid because it's illegal" that's the excuse people from Monat always say 😂😂 and they never explain how it works

[@aleeymeow]

Hannah, I recently came across your channel and love binging the influencer and MLM content! I have never experienced an MLM before or knew much about it. It is so crazy how I started binging your content and then yesterday experienced a recruiter at Walmart for what I assume is an MLM company. I was in the medicine aisle minding my business and this nice woman struck up a conversation with me complimenting my bag. We start chatting about how we are new to the city, and she asks where I work. I tell her I work in the neighboring city, and she points out how that commute seems long. She asks me what I do and I tell her my profession and then she says she works in business marketing helping people transform their time for money. So because I have been educated by you, I immediately started to realize what she was trying to do. She asked if I liked my job and if I didn't she had a business opportunity I could be a part of. I told her I liked my job but thanks for offering and then we went our separate ways. That was so weird to me!! had I not been educated by your content maybe I would have been intrigued or something lol but thankfully not. Just wanted to share this story lol!

[@evylyndyvine2099]

The Melaleuca lady, Top Fail 1, looked right away like a prisoner to her cleaning products

[@MH-ku5kn]

I think Melaluca (sp?) has such a wide variety of products so there is always "something" you've got to be "low" on

[@libertymedicalcommunicatio4908]

The description ‘buyers club’ (as opposed to ‘shop club’) is actually appropriate for MLMs. Attorney Doug Brooks (of Betting on Zero fame) says this often in interviews

[@ophelia3401]

The Avon couple- they don't care about the book. It's an excuse for them to come back. Perhaps produce some guilt purchases even.

[@Ammie_Mae]

The whole “be your own boss” when you literally have to have an up line, like sure you’re not dealing with the ceo god of whatever pyramid they’re in but they still answer to their up line! ESPECIALLY if they are one of the few “successful” sellers! You still have a “boss”, I truly would love to be a fly on the wall of these reps once they turn off the camera, like do they hate themselves or do they truly believe in the bullshit that they just spat into the camera.

[@BachBeethovenBerg]

If a salesperson has to say it's not a pyramid scheme, it's probably a pyramid scheme.

[@ahouseofpomegranates4338]

$200 is a fuckload of money. i desperately need glasses and today i finally went to get them. 219€ and i'm paying in installments for 12 months because i have no money but i also want to see things

[@Kreepie11]

Not sure where you are or if there's another website but Zenni is the place to go for glasses. You just need to know your prescription and PD number. Very handy. 👍🏻

[@ahouseofpomegranates4338]

@@Kreepie11 i'm in finland and not sure what pd number means but i've bought my glasses now, i will keep this in mind if/when my prescription is updated though, thank you!

[@Kreepie11]

@@ahouseofpomegranates4338 I had to look it up too 😅 It's the distance between your pupils so the glasses will sit properly. Hope you're enjoying your new frames!

[@bestself2438]

I have intermittent insomnia. When it’s bad, I’ll listen to my phone (under my pillow) to a wide range of topics. I usually drift off to sleep from the distraction. I made the mistake of choosing this video. My blood is boiling! No way can I sleep. I’m typing this comment at 3:19AM! This was a mistake. This video is so excellent at exposing the few things I despise in this world: dishonesty and predation! And one more thing: that voice around 14:20! I don’t know which is worse what she’s says or how she says it. I feel like I need a shower; and I want to yell at Drew Barrymore for some reason…I mean like, really, like.

[@kierratoole2953]

Watching this while nursing my week old daughter. Thank you for continuing to post content. I hope you and baby are well and that you’re recovering well :)

[@jcfreak2007]

Ugh... Melaleuca! We are STILL trying to get rid of all of the Melaleuca crap we got from being members for just a year! It doesn't work as well as regular stuff but we have so much of it! Also, I am pretty sure that Elyse Meyers wouldn't want to help you promote your mlm! 😂

[@LisaHarvey16]

So happy you got out.

[@BloominFleury29]

Where I’m from one of the biggest insults I’ve ever heard is “Your Father Looks like he sells Avon.”

[@Shoot4AlarmFire]

When I was in an MLM, I was too young (20) to know what an MLM was or why they had a bad name. So I was confused as to why they taught us to say 'no, we're direct sales and that's different' (back in the day before they came up with any really weird names to deflect the bad rep). I think young people even today really don't know. Maybe the 20 yr olds know more than I did ten years ago, but I think even still, they might genuinely believe these excuses the company gives, without even knowing why they need to say it. I wish I had looked into it back then, I enjoy looking into things, but I was too busy looking into the product ingredients (health & wellness company). I guess I'm just trying to say that this education is really important. I know well by now, but I remind myself that others don't. P.S. Hi, Zeke!!!!

[@kathy2929]

I was applying for jobs and found an ad for remote work for travel agent. They did a group interview. It was an Mlm.

[@HSSG7]

Melaluca Hun: shows off video of all the products she has from her MLM Me: Tell me you're not making any money in your MLM, without telling me you're not making any money

[@palmspringsmarythomson6354]

Also I don't know if the Avon couple live in the USA or not but it's actually illegal to put non-post-paid postal items inside personal mailboxes except for store circulars or marked "or current resident.". Ours has a bin beneath for newspapers, comunity fliers in our residential area etc, that is legal.

[@erinfindsen4953]

OMG this is so offensive to reach out to a recovery group and compare it to an MLM

[@LisaHarvey16]

It's totally disgusting.

[@UlshaRS]

Targeting recovering addicts is a well known tactic to get people to convert one lifestyle sublimation for another. To create converts that make the in-group their new identity.

[@HeyHonHorror]

22:18 - The FTC doesn't even investigate MLMs until they have been around for 7 years. (At least that is what I have been told 100s of times at Amway conferences. They used this as a flex to explain why "new" MLMs couldn't be trusted and to show how awesome Amway is." So, yeah, they could 100% be a pyramid without getting caught.

[@martyh7771]

"Its very bingeable" - me on my second listen through the entire playlist - "yep, not wrong"