Helldivers 2 did the impossible

[@LegendaryDrops]

Play War Thunder now with my link, and get a massive, free bonus pack including vehicles, boosters, and more: playwt.link/legendarydrops

[@niklasdahlgren7641]

Can't, have planets to deliver democracy to.

[@the7thcircle734]

No

[@InVentor-xn2yq]

How we can play any other live-service games, in which i can't bring democracy 😁

[@BoinkrNanis]

Been streaming on kick and 90% of it is helldivers 2. It's just a perfect game.

[@callum105]

actually good for a free game, atleast it's not fkin raid shadow legends, the amount of sponsored ads(from other chanels) for that made me never wanna play it the opposite of what an ad should do

[@elained.8240]

"Despite Arrowhead's blatant attack on my sleep schedule," I felt that one in my soul 😭

[@crackericeproductions]

I know I stay up longer than I. Should I’m tired all the time lately. I Skipped hockey the other night just to level up lol I need help

[@Viccerz]

All fax no printer

[@Swaggmire215]

Yesss lmao

[@Swaggmire215]

​@@crackericeproductionsgod can't help us big dog lol

[@crackericeproductions]

@@Swaggmire215 lol we need all the help me can get helldivers for democracy

[@Beardie1337]

This small company, $40 game is destroying AAA game companies. Why? Because they aren't greedy. They made a game that we have ALL been longing for. Just make a great game that focuses on gameplay and the player, and boom you'll have a great game we all love. Stop with the bs micro transactions, stop with these Season passes, stop with pay walls. Just stop. We are all tired of it. Helldivers 2 has shown the world that a simple PVE, CO op game can absolutely be loved by the Gamer community.

[@PsionicB]

It's like that you didn't know you wanted but now that you have it it's genuinely the best game I've played in quite some time.

[@Swaggmire215]

And the irony is people would gladly drop money on this

[@that1guy73075]

the fact that the community and their action/inaction determines where the war effort goes is a real joy for me

[@soulretriever8630]

@@Swaggmire215 you only need to drop money on getting the game since you can get in game currency for free if you find some throughout runs thats why i love this game its not a cash grab you can play and get the passes as you play

[@imoutsidethebox2266]

If you find a seed with a bunch of super credits you can close app after getting them and re load seed to farm super creds ;) ​@soulretriever8630

[@AeroZephron]

This isn't just a GOYT contender - it's changing the landscape of live-service forever.

[@Repo756]

GOTY for sure too tho

[@Offbeaten]

God i hope not. It's a solid game for sure. But it's also buggy, has server issues, and is repetetive as all heck. Good game, yeah. Goty? Only on a really really bad year.

[@HodgePodgeLancia]

HD2 is already so good and it’s gotten to the point where I wouldn’t be surprised if it did win goty. The amount of possible content between now and the awards show would definitely keep it on the radar.

[@Sadcatblake]

@@Offbeatenim pretty sure most live service games are always buggy like destiny and such

[@AlesMicik]

​@@Offbeaten i just wanna remind you that BG3 won GOTY with it's last act literally unfinished.

[@Cwomack07]

Love that this game is running circles around all the AAA/AAAA games but being actually fun and interesting

[@omegapanda9980]

I freaking love this community. The freaking news advertisement as Vietnam esque showcases of active war updates; voice recordings of rebel groups; parent to child transcripts of patriotic duty, everything. I love this company

[@IHateThisHandleSystem]

They're World War II esque, not Vietnam.

[@HER0_]

Remember the creek

[@barefootbreezy6983]

@@IHateThisHandleSystem Vietnam was much more broadcasted.

[@IHateThisHandleSystem]

@@barefootbreezy6983 True, but the style is WW2.

[@tigerseye1202]

The fact that they literally called it Strohman News (Straw man news in german) is amazing.

[@killabstorm9361]

I'm 35 years old, and this game is easily in my top 10 favorite games of all time. You did a helluva job Arrowhead

[@JuanFlores-be8sl]

Same

[@TaintPUNCH53]

Right there with ya. Dad of 3, hop in SMASH then go to bed 😅. This game is a masterpiece.

[@chrishouseinc]

This $40 game has saved me so much money on new "AAA" games the last few months just by being better than anything else

[@kristianbonilla6482]

So true.

[@mattmurphy9659]

💯 true. I haven’t spent a dollar on any other games since it’s release

[@JuanFlores-be8sl]

Fr!!! dogma who?

[@cameronbudden4036]

Triple a is no longer a badge of honour. It's a red flag

[@RevanReborn3950BBY]

@@cameronbudden4036indie or double is what people look for these days

[@spartanlemon9397]

I remember when the Arc Thrower was crashing games, all my resources were maxed, all warbonds maxed, my level capped at 50. I was playing only for liberating, but it did feel bad to not have any progression to work towards. Lo and behold, over the course of a month, we now have 6 new ship upgrades, a 150 level cap with titles, a new warbond, 3 new enemy types, 1 new objective, numerous bug fixes and much more. There's no fear associated with fomo, but also, every single week there's something new. It could be tomorrow that we have a new stratagem, or new objective, enemy, anything. I'm not sure I've ever been so invested and immersed in a video game.

[@Astreon123]

Meanwhile im a day 13 player who owns super citizen yet im lvl 24 and i only own the first 2 battle passes. The game is perfect for just coming bacl amd grinding out a level or 2,maybe some stratagems,or even just play and fuck around every few days/weeks and it doesnt feel like youre forced to constantly play or youll miss out on huge content like destiny 2 or pretty much any other live servicd game

[@dinomannick2559]

Wait, new ship upgrades? I have only not played for literally one week. How did i miss this?

[@charlestwoo]

@@dinomannick2559 1 week!! that's crazy bro, this game doesn't slow down.

[@charlestwoo]

are you kidding me bro, I've never experienced true FOMO until I started playing this game, it's real fomo though and not artificial like every other garbage monetized game before it.

[@gigahertz7352]

@@charlestwoo exactly and I always feel the FOMO in liberations when im not logged in

[@Khrodeas]

I play this game with my wife, her brother, godfather of my daughter, my childhood friend, different video games developer, dude I play tabletop roleplaying games... this is wild man. Never seen so many people attracted to single release.

[@artheus5069]

One of the major reasons why HD2 has been able to pump out so much content is because they have a big content backlog that is already mostly made and just needs polishing. They made a live service game and then ensured that the "live" part of live service could actually be provided. All the leaks we've seen, all the vehicles and guns and what not, the only reason why modders were able to mod that content in and play with it is because it was already there for the most part. Arrow Head studios made a finished game instead of a "rush now, finish later" disappointment and they are now being rewarded for their years of effort. Knowing that things are only going to improve from here fills me with a ton of excitement for the game

[@OP10thNakama]

ArrowHead built this game in a CAVE!! with a BOX of scraps 🤣

[@NoName......]

Not really. It had the direct backing of Sony. Plus 100 employees.

[@gigahertz7352]

@@NoName...... not sure if you did or didn't get the reference, but ok

[@NoName......]

@@gigahertz7352 I got the reference, but it's not applicable to arrowhead

[@davidwhite206]

​@NoName...... Sounds like treason. I am reporting you to the nearest Democracy Officer.

[@dkkids]

NoName is clearly not Tony Stark

[@MTG69]

Back in the late 90's early 2000's, I dreamt of what was possible with an internet connection, and games that could be updated. My dreams turned to disappointment, over and over throughout the years. Thank you Arrowhead Studios for realizing my dreams. Finally.

[@cdsackett]

Yep, you’ve put my feelings into words

[@BoinkrNanis]

Saw starship troopers at 7 in 97, wanted THIS game my entire life. Proud to have it but even more proud that the new generations get their own version of this sort of game and community. They've never enjoyed games like this or even had them. They truly deserve this. This shit has made, as well as all the other amazing games recently, enjoyed gaming again. "Do you have the strength and the courage, to be, free!"

[@hunternogales578]

One reason I think this game in particular is so successful at keeping itself fresh, is that they don't have nearly as many production concerns as most PvE focuses live games. No highly produced custcenes with detailed facial animations, no need to pay celebrities to voice NPC's. That stuff costs a ton of money and time to polish. That and I'm sure most of what we've seen in these couple of months was more or less complete when the game launched. Impressive that the launch experience was fulfilling enough to keep it engaging for the initial period.

[@Fascists4gainstSewerSlide]

What about Bully Lowenthal?😂😂

[@rayguym33]

⁠@@epicwinningyuri lowenthal is not a nobody

[@profesoreniram820]

If one does not follow Voice Actors one may not know who he is. But its kinda funny to see people call him a nobody. Not the first one i saw do that@@rayguym33

[@aaronwalsh8469]

Exactly, all they gotta do is add new planets , missions, weapons and such.

[@hunternogales578]

@@aaronwalsh8469 because the core gameplay is so well designed, even small additions and alterations can have a big effect on the experience. Just look at the new defense missions. It's a tiny level, built with all pre-existing assets (besides maybe the gates), using the same enemies we've been fighting since launch. Yet it's got a completely different feel from every other mission type in the game. Just wait till we get a new faction, brand new planet biomes, or vehicles. Gonna be interesting to see what the game looks like in 6 months.

[@jeremyarmbruster6498]

Helldivers 2 is the best coop experience i have had in years and i'm in it for the long haul. Everything they do with this game is just phenomenal and keeps me fully vested. Looking forward to a bright future with this fantastic piece of digital media!

[@onenutmia8323]

This is the first game in a long time that when I'm not playing the game, I'm consuming content of the game and thinking about the game.

[@ALsoHDFilms]

Facts lol

[@devinfleenor3188]

It's cured my league addiction.

[@LeftJoystick]

Helldivers 2 and OSRS KZbin content is goated.

[@Zawfee]

I don't think the other game studios lack the vision or even the passion I personally believe their corporate overlords simply do not allow them too. Helldivers is a passion project and you can see it, that's why it's successful.

[@palasta]

Mh, ok. But Sony is a corporate overlord?

[@TheForever206]

@@palasta From what i understand, they were simply the publisher. Its not like Sony outright owns the studies like Insomniac or Naughty Dog.

[@palasta]

@@TheForever206 Sony aquired the helldivers IP more than 10 years ago. Insomniac was "indie" upto 2019. That was only five years ago. They developed PS exclusives for 20 years before that.

[@TheForever206]

@@palasta acquiring an IP versus a studio are not the same thing.

[@palasta]

@@TheForever206 What are we argueing about? Quote:"corporate overlords simply do not allow them too". Sony bought helldivers over a decade ago, funded two games and let Arrowhead do their thing.

[@Ky-kx2hd]

$70 games: this is all we have right now, but we'll get you more later. $40 Helldivers: The stage is set, the game is afoot. Let them come.

[@SloMoMonday]

With the incredible business decisions they've made to enrich their players, I'm more than willing to give technical issues some slack. Had a string of crashes last week that would make me drop any other game. But I took a few days to play some BattleBit which is also doing amazing things. Logged back in yesterday and found the crashes mostly fixed, new ship upgrades, a battle pass that I could already afford, my new main weapon and an invasion on my doorstep.

[@sassythesasquatch4425]

its funny how HD2 micro-transaction is 100% buy-able with war medals. :)

[@j.vinton4039]

Oh yes! I specifically saved my Super Credits these past few weeks cause of Democratic Detonation. Immediately picked it up with my saved Credits. Felt good. I bought a 10$ pack when I started cause I knew what Arrowhead was doing with this game, and I damn sure wanted to show my support.

[@chaosgilleon6433]

I like how the Micro transactions are Micro. Like I can spend less than $10 and still get a bunch of stuff. Most other games I'd have to spend more than $30 just to get a loot box with nothing in it.

[@djtrac3r935]

@@j.vinton4039 I dropped some dosh on the game cuz I felt this game was giving me way more than I thought it would. Arrowhead has my deepest respect for delivering a playable live service game and interacting with the community.

[@atamiss3259]

Easily saved 1000 for this drop…. And still got more with cash for more drip. 😂

[@BoinkrNanis]

You can easily farm 1000 credits every month passively for the new warbonds. I've got every warbond and spent nothing.

[@fishyboi141]

I’ll put it this way, I’ve played over 100 hours of helldivers 2, still not bored. In fact it’s the most fun I’ve had in gaming in years! Now I actively WANT to buy more content because I want to support the devs to make the game even better! It doesn’t feel like I’m being blackmailed to buy more to get the full experience. I’ve got more than my moneys worth out of this game and I don’t plan to stop now. Nothing but praise to Arrowhead Studios 👏

[@patrickhuffman9632]

Lets go Helldivers. So much freedom to dispense.

[@Les1aw82]

Old trees fall. Decay into resources. New trees grow thanks to them. "Developer studio life cycle"

[@BoinkrNanis]

"Do you have the strength, the courage, to be, free!" I fucking get chubbed for HD2!

[@amuro5992]

Even when the flow of content is at such a decent rate and we as the community knows that the devs are working hard to put in more toys for us to play with, they come around and surprise us with unexpected content like the new defense mission that is actually tons of fun. The point being that they did so even when they didn't need to speaks volume of their commitment in creating a fun experience for their players and I am here for it.

[@Hawksdood27]

Arrowhead has truly done the remarkable and made me itch for a game for the first time since I was a kid. Genuinely can’t wait to hop on every day. Its also done something weird in making me wish time went by faster just so I can see what other crazy/goofy stuff they throw into the game. Truly amazing.

[@Bigbadwolfanderson]

Try to enjoy it all each moment, we’ll wish for it back a year from now. We’ll be nostalgic for the time we had to run everywhere e because we have APCs / buggies 😂❤

[@peanutbutterandpickles7860]

I can’t wait until the enemies start invading other enemies planets and we have to deal with them both 😂 epic!

[@peters_stuff]

For YEARS I've been looking/waiting for something that had a sense of purpose in it. Unlike games such as COD - DMZ, selling me shit every other week for more then third of the price of the game then wants me to extract 7 screw drivers and 20 bottles of wine while being chased by some dummy campers snipping all session from the roof of one building ... fck that!!! ... Thank You Arrowhead for bringing out Helldivers 2 - this game is a freaking life. It is not a money grab but real content for gamers, it is one of the few games that would make sense to play and the only one game I'd actually put on my daily priorities ever!! There are three exciting things in my life - my super hot wife, my Audi S5 thats breaking my neck and Helldivers 2 that let's me blow the shit up for democracy !! There is not any other game to deliver such satysfying feeling as of calling an airstrike, whether a clusters or 500 kg bomb - it is hillarious when pieces of shreded armor or torn parts of bugs bodies would then land near me as an outcome and just alowly burn away. Fck yeah - nothing like sacrifice my life to safe my budies running away from bunch of Automatons because theyve run out of ammo or aint havent got time to reload ... just cut these dawn the way youd like - shoot them, burn them, microvawe them, laser them, electocute them, blow them up, drop the pod on them ... that never gets old And why? Because when the major order is done people go on discord and celebrate together their colective success while weeding out posisble bot or bug sympathisers ... Ive never seen anything more life like worth then Helldivers 2 ... here, take my money, I'd buy 3 copies of this game just because Arrowhead deserves every penny ... with their effort and rolling out stuff and story twists and - of course - they have Joel cooking scenarios for us ... no other gmae has Joel - Joel is a legend !! And Helldivers 2 will go down the history as one of the most genre cutting and entertaining games in history ...

[@davidwhite206]

I am 39 years of age, and these past 5 or 6 years my love for gaming was going downhill. Maybe because of burnout, or the industry standard had sank so low, or maybe I was just growing up. I really cannot say for sure, but I was contemplating giving it up. All of a sudden, this game drops and hooks me all of the way back in! These past few years I have only been into single player games. This game changed all of that.

[@mikek9491]

I think Arrowhead has a ton of content that was already ready to ship when the game launched and they're deliberately holding most of it back so it can be rolled out over time. This would explain the amount of content being added in such a short time. There are stories of Joel dropping into random games and calling in vehicles that aren't officially part of the game yet. If so, it's a bold and risky move that shows how much faith Arrowhead has in its core gameplay loops to launch with just a fraction of the content and features available.

[@ABFPV584]

I had that happen to me once but idk if it was him, different gamer tag. This person dropped the vehicle then got into passenger seat and waiting, so naturally I just started ripping that shit around assuming they wanted to see it tested. It got stuck about due to the terrain, and I’m wondering the newer more open maps were a response to findings like that. Not solely from me, but just saying how cool it is they design reflexively to the player, seeking to understand first rather than just giving us something broken.

[@NoName......]

That's a hacker, not joel

[@j.vinton4039]

The whole war has evolved so much from HD1. Back then it was pure RNG based, this time Joel is directing the action and I already know this is FAR from over. This games evolution will be a thrill to witness

[@xDjembex]

The last game I played that felt this attended to and cared for in real time was Planetside 1. I know some of you old PS1 vets are out there and will vouch for me. Those devs made us feel like we were integral to the game's development. It was almost a familial relationship.

[@JosephHPaine]

I watched from outside in. Always wanted to play planetside back in the day.

[@nextdaydelivery7147]

it just makes it even more awesome because it’s like it feels as if I was participating in historical events

[@RollingSherman505]

Iron Maiden shirt: ✅, Blind Guardian clip: ✅, HellDiver: ✅. This man is legend and must be protected!

[@eighttree9562]

Also the clip of the Denny's Grand Slam

[@EvernooBE]

Add another check for Cat

[@JosephHPaine]

WHAT THE FUCK IS UP DENNYS

[@calenstvaras7907]

Its quite simple why Helldivers 2 feels so different from every other live service game. All other games in the live-service, or in the game industry in general, focus on offering the same experience to all players, and to be able to catch players up on old content as well. They live in a constant battle of delivering new content and also maintaining old content because they usually set up a campaign, or story, or something and that's the game! Everything is built around a single pillar experience. What makes Helldivers 2 unique is that it is built on the experience of NOW. Whoever you are, whenever you join, what happened in the last season, in the last month, in the last week, in the last patch, doesn't matter because there is an on-going storyline. This is the same reason people love D&D, because it not just a live service - its a live experience. There is someone directing the thousands upon thousands of players and they tell you that even though you may be doing the same mission types over and over - each time you do it - IT MATTERS. You watch the map change, you get new orders, you see everyone around you cheer and jeer as the situation changes. All other games feel like a single place. You have to go in, learn all the streets, learn how to survive in them, learn the best deals and the way to thrive in a single place that slowly expands. Helldivers 2 feels like you are on a freak'n mobile command center with thousands of other players hanging on for dear life and shooting absolutely EVERYTHING that gets in your way. Ride on Helldivers. We all ride on.

[@andyroberts310]

I love the way they brought in the screeches. It starts with a major order to cull the bugs with a new mission spreading neurotoxin. Then some rumers and the occasional flying bug in a someone's game. Now they're a standard in most bug missions and the propaganda around how it's DEFINITELY not due to the neurotoxin but inevitable evolution. Man I love this game!!

[@nuclearsimian3281]

It feels like Arrowhead had a _PLAN,_ rather than just throwing shit at the wall and selling what stuck the best, the way EA, Ubisoft, or Fatshark would have.

[@cobaltss50]

I wounder if the content comes so fast because it has been in development for a long time, so they got everything worked out and ready to roll way before the game came out, which if more companies did this gamers would he happy. We don't ask for much we just want a fun game that isn't broken lol.

[@TankHunter678]

@@cobaltss50 A lot of the stuff they are releasing is stuff they had for Helldivers 1, so for them they already know what to develop because they have done so before. It is already designed, now they just have to port it over and respond to the playerbase.

[@cobaltss50]

@TankHunter678 I appreciate the information! I'm very new with the game, I wasn't aware of the lore, I just picked it up last week because everyone at my work kept talking about how good it truly is.

[@TankHunter678]

@@cobaltss50 Well as for Lore, Helldivers 2 takes place 100 years after the first game. The Cyborg Rebellion was put down, though they had managed to hide the automatons they had designed. The first contact with the bugs went poorly but the Element-710 they decomposed into turned out to basically be super oil and they were preserved for the sake of the Super Earth economy. The currently yet to be released Illuminate faction was had their tech, including the WMDs they had, seized following their defeat. In HD2 Super Earth acts like they were wiped out, but given that the Illuminate were capable of mind control they were most likely simply convinced they had wiped out the Illuminate so that the Illuminate could prepare to bring some payback. Overall the lore is not particularly deep, the game is basically a satire of militarism and various military campaigns.

[@cobaltss50]

@TankHunter678 I appreciate the deep dive into the lore, I've always wondered what was true and what was not, so many fans have made crazy good fake lore content so it's hard to know what is true lol. It's crazy how simple it is by design but it makes me think deeply about the truth and what is really going on I question alot of the actions, probably intentionally done by the developers for players to possibly think like that. I instantly thought about star ship troopers and the military aspect with the wmds and the patriot aspect for the cause.

[@t3hp0larbear]

About a month or two ago, a friend had asked me if I was going to buy Helldivers 2. I hadn't heard of the franchise before, and with no context. I was lukewarm on it because my friend group tends to bounce around games from week to week before I can really get settled into and enjoy any one particular game. I told them that I was worried that I was going to buy it and then forget about it in a few weeks when the group focus shifted to something else, like with what happens every time we try to play Destiny 2. Weeks later, I may not be playing it everyday, but I'm still logging in fairly regularly and playing an op or two because I'm excited to see what happens next in this narrative, and what crazy things might happen on the battlefield this time. I've never felt like this game is demanding a commitment or my attention unlike all of these other Live services. Arrowhead has done something wonderful here, and I hope and pray that it lasts for a good long while. At least long enough that other developers will get the hint about what makes a game good and what will get them new, loyal customers.

[@Ramah1010]

In other live service games: What will they do next?! In Helldivers 2: What will WE do next?! Actually feeling like you are taking part of the story is hard to capture like this.

[@morganharvey2041]

Maybe not ship combat….. but ship boarding….. oh hell yes!

[@mizuchi6209]

What about BOTH XD

[@Corruptshadows]

Honestly guys lets be real here because I have totally shot myself thinking this several times. The game mechanics won't really allow for something like this due to the stratagems and how important they are to the game play. I have thought of similar ideas to this that would be sweet to see, but then after thinking it through further I always come to that same conclusion. One of my favorite ideas being cave systems. Imagine how cool it would be to be forced into a bug cave system to actually DEAL with a hive. It would be dark and almost horrific at times having to rely on flashlights but then how do you access any stratagems. The same would go for boarding ships unfortunately once you're no longer out in the open it basically breaks that gameplay mechanism. 🫤

[@CleetusBuckwalter]

The other day I was thinking that we board and work our way through an automaton or terminid cruiser with a boss at the end. When we're eliminated, throw reinforcement beacon and the drop pod rips through the wall next to the squad and we jump back into the fray. Take out commander, demolish enemy morale

[@mizuchi6209]

@@Corruptshadows while i'm not sure about space ship battle, cave one actually still able to make sense, by using relays, multiple relays throughout the planets' underground, which is where all those researchers might have been hiding in rescue missions, although yeah we need entirely different methods to deliver democracy that drills through the planet(heavily inspired from DRG). About space mission, been thinking about important hostage mission and how that means no super destroyer armanent nor eagle help, boarding automaton/illuminates' ship and rescuing them and leaving swiftly before super destroyer have to shoot it down, well yeah i cant think of any way we board their ship in the first place as well tho

[@morganharvey2041]

@@Corruptshadows You’d need a whole different set of stratagems for definite. But it could be done.

[@miinyoo]

A good friend introduced me to HD2. The concept, gameplay, satire, the whole evolving package was ready, locked and cocked for massive success. I won't be playing since I don't play shooters anymore, hurts my hands and controllers suck for TP FPS, but I love the lore and synergies between what players come up with and what is revealed by the devs. It's fucking hilarious. The exactly correct game at exactly the right time for Managed Democracy. Utterly brilliant.

[@Rapidcouplescounselling]

I got into hell divers 2 this morning and set up a mission. Three players joined me and just as we were standing around on the bridge, one of them asked for a hug. We all gave each other hugs, then dropped into the mission, blew up a shit ton of robots and worked as a team. This beats the hell out of a competitive shooter where the person with the best aim bot or cheat wins and you keep getting smashed by someone who does nothing else but play the game, and you have to have a life. Hell divers has created a community but forcing people to work together in the structure of the game. There isn't any toxicity that you get from competitive shooters and you are right, they are continuing to keep us interested but dropping different weapons and content. Compare that with Ubisoft that makes a pirate game where you can't board ships or swim in the water... WTF.

[@augustineliyanda1465]

The developers for Helldivers 2 are gamers and they have the interests of the gamers at heart. I played the first Helldivers and the developers sent us emails asking us what we would like to see included in the game. Obviously, lightsabers were top on the list, and to everyone's surprise, we actually got lightsabers at some point. They were horrible and not practical in battle but it showed us that the developers are part of the community. They do not claim to know what the player base wants, rather they are listening and learning just like the players. I feel like most game developers have the tendency of insulting the intelligence of the gamer by creating content that they assume is good for the gamer. The political commentary and real-life issues, celebrity cameos, and expensive skins at the expense of actual gameplay.

[@NoName......]

Don't tell this guy about the political commentary in helldivers 2

[@stormjet814]

@@NoName...... yea, and unlike most other games it's played as an obvious joke everyone can get instead of BROWBEATING. YOU. OVER. THE. HEAD. WITH. THE. MESSAGE. plus you have "media literacy" people on twitter comparing Palestinians to terminids so I think it balances out

[@augustineliyanda1465]

@@NoName......I think the satire in Helldivers 2 has gone over your head if you think that is political commentary.

[@NoName......]

@augustineliyanda1465 Dude those are THE SAME THING

[@augustineliyanda1465]

@@NoName...... OK

[@brigandboy1425]

SES Eye of Conviction reporting in. I am happy to say that this game is incredible. it has helped me through a very rough month, and it continues to provide me with a much needed escape from reality. There is no politicking. There is no bait and switch. I play this casually (about 1-2 hours a day, which is about 1-2 full mission sets a day) and I am fully satisfied with it. I log in every day to check the personal orders and the major orders, and to see what shenanigans are happening that day. I don't need much else. The game isn't perfect, but it *IS* above and beyond pretty much every other online game on the market right now. I only hope that I don't get burnt out, and that the Ministry of Development don't forget to do their solemn duty and provide us with the best they can give. For Managed Democracy, and for Super Earth! (I love this game.)

[@monocyte2210]

This is the most fun i had in a video game in decades. Im a middle aged man (not a gamer just a casual) and have played lots of kinds of games from rpgs, to sports games, fighitng games etc. This game is something special. I grt to play w my friends also because its online

[@mene3337]

I was playing Helldivers 1 for years (it's as good as 2) and i was begging my friends to pick it up, nobody was joining. Now everybody went crazy with 2, which is just like 1 but 3rd person.

[@jarodp1027]

I never played 1 but really appreciate those that did otherwise we wouldn't have 2! More people are hyped because the 3rd person POV has a wider audience for a shooter imo.

[@mene3337]

@@jarodp1027 I totally agree. By the way, it is crazy how this company managed to make a huge jump forward and be able to handle it so good. Amazing guys. The more you play the more details you discover in this game, it is so well made...

[@danweber8382]

This what a live service should fell like. This game was so good that I went and upgraded on Steam to reward the developer for a great game and game play. This game just blew my mind on how much fun it was and community driven also. Well done Arrowhead, please keep doing what you are doing you will be rewarded. Cheers Helldivers. Go spread that DEMOCRACY!!!! For SUPER EARTH......

[@morcheba2184]

What doesn't get discussed much is the AI of the enemies working their way around is good to see instead of straight for you

[@basedury]

Can't wait to hear developers like Bungie and EA to say "well you can't expect games like Helldivers 2 from us, that's crazy. We only have exponentially larger studios and infinite resources"

[@josephgrove4779]

Both Warframe and Helldivers 2 are two of my favourite live service games of all time. Both have shown that giving a shit about the player base, is what truly makes the games great in my mind!

[@lousiffer5289]

Wait, me? What are we doing here?

[@NoName......]

I've heard about warframe. What is that? Is it easy to get into as a new player?

[@Nempo13]

@@NoName...... Hahahahaha no. No it absolutely is not. They also routinely release overpowered frames. Power creep is a real problem in that game. So much so they have had to re-release upgraded versions of their iconic first warframes to keep them relevant. Warframe has a grind you also cannot ignore. There are best upgrades for every frame and every weapon. You will grind for those hard. It is not like HD2 where what you start with is absolutely worth using everywhere. I have done a Helldive mission using the starting armor and rifle already and been completely effective. You absolutely cannot do that in Warframe.

[@josephgrove4779]

@NoName...... it's not easy but its not hard either. Well it wasn't for me when I start a few years ago. They are trying to make it easier for new players with every update

[@iamgreenmario4067]

Arrowhead redefining the meaning of Live in the Live service. The interaction between the devs and the players it truly feels like a tabletop game online. You never know what Joel will do next 😊

[@AzathothLives]

It's like they didnt have the resources to make a single player campaign along with the multi-player shooter, then stopped and said: "What if the multi-player component IS the campaign?" Genius.

[@Nempo13]

Nah this follows the first game. Us against the Devs. Legit this is exactly like the first game. It is more polished and better presented. The upgrades to computers is allowing them to do what they wanted to do with the first game. Also, expect us to lose one of the game cycles. Super Earth will absolutely fall at least once. The major orders absolutely must be the priority. Failing them will always increase the difficulty everywhere.

[@quikoneson]

Arrowhead hit something deep in the soul of every gamer at the same time as giving us a perfect break from real life junk. They've created a gem that is endlessly entertaining, low toxicity, no real life crap, and fun like no other since the golden days of WoW. It's truly amazing and I can't wait to log in every day even if it's just for a mission or two. Arrowhead hit us straight in the head in the best possible way.

[@sendbob4345]

Another big reason why helldivers 2 proves that live service can work wonderfully comes down to one word, passion. Just the amount of passion Arrowhead pumped into this game made it clear to me in the first hour of gameplay that taking risk AND keeping passion alive is what separates good games from the bad ones. we need more passion in modern gaming. proud to be swedish when a small indie developer from stockholm knocks it out of the park like this. AAA studios take notes. länge leve arrowhead🤘🇸🇪

[@MarineCorpzor1]

There is a reason I went back and bought the super citizen edition. Even after already having the premium pass. I believed Arrowhead deserved my money for the content and the time spent in game.

[@ijustsawthat]

Reminder: Bile Titan is a *medium* size enemy.

[@liamrichardson6830]

There's always a bugger bug.

[@the1_MatthiasGray]

Helldivers II is of anachronism of Our Universe of Warhammer during a War with the Men of Iron, in an American colonized Sector of the Solar Confederation.

[@mrk7309]

You come across this very sincere. There's not a lot of unnecessary fanfare, and no spectacular edits. I like your content because you come across as so genuine. Whether that's an affectation for the camera or not, it plays well

[@AzathothLives]

At first people bashed Helldivers 2 for not having a roadmap, but not knowing what the future will bring in this galactic war is part of the fun.

[@Pr0digyZRX]

Helldivers don't sleep. Helldivers dive into the hell of war. It's in the name 😂

[@Nocturnalverse]

Quadruple A companies can't see the forest for the trees. That pretty much sums it up as far as I'm concerned. They don't know how to operate in the market at a double A level much less a quadruple A level. I think I've spent 90 dollars on Helldivers 2 so far. It will be 90 when I drop in 10 for the new war bond. Got no problems with that because they didn't try to FOMO me. It's not a very hard paywall so I feel like I could earn the SCs in game if I wanted to. I feel no pressure to pay them money, so I have no reservations about paying them money. Pressure stops me from giving live services money. You pressure me, and I won't pay.

[@JaySimms-3lfer]

I LOVE the fact that the community is so active and very responsive to players. The story keeps going, even when we are not logged in. It keeps evolving. A lot of players feel that it should be worth more than $40 and so they buy the Super Credits to support the cause of Managed Democracy. It’s brilliant and it gets the adrenaline pumping and addictive too! Plus our transmissions can get hacked by our enemies too lol! It’s brilliant!

[@fetlix]

This game renewed my love for co-op games with old friends, i turned 30 a few weeks before Helldivers 2 Released and i once again play with the folks i used to play games with as a kid and a teen/Young adult. This game is also the reason i upgraded from my old PC to a 6000$ Beast, and i have no regrets with that purchase what so ever

[@WeeWeeJumbo]

the whole situation is so heavily blessed that i’m anxious about a future heel turn

[@NoName......]

Why would they do that. That would be the dumbest thing ever and everyone who works on the game knows this

[@BeardGrizzly]

There are teasers for larger ships that could exist. If the engine allows for ship-to-ship combat, it would be... amazing.

[@96Logan]

Say it with me everyone: Non 👏 Predatory 👏 Micro 👏 Transactions! That's how you do it! This is why I buy every DLC for Deep Rock Galactic and why I bought the DLC for this game. I appreciate both games, the devs, and honest buisness practices. Vote with your wallet on games you enjoy. Support studios like Larian, Arrowhead, Ghost Ship Games ect. Don't shell out money for games that treat you like gambling/drug addicts. Get out of manipulative one sided relationships in your life. This goes for friends, family, and even video game studios.

[@DioAngys]

My respect for Arrowhead is great. Yesterday, they released a new warbond which I could get for free because I had over 3000 super credits farmed in game. I still purchased 1000 credits (the warbond's value) to support them. They are deserving.

[@PsionicB]

I personally needed a cathartic game that I can jump in quickly and shoot hoards of bugs and robutts with a fun community and the social media is funny, also Joel being the Gamemaster adds a few interesting layers. I love it and I dont have to be on constantly just to keep up with other players you'll always find a group of randoms playing on a level you like or you can start your own and most likely you'll be joined in no time. Spreading Democracy has never been so fun

[@Bmacthesage]

logging in to HD2 right now because I want to see the new warbond being added today. This is the type of game I have no issue with throwing the devs a few extra $ on a microtransaction. Key word there being Micro, as in at the time I only $2 purchase it because I have gotten the premium currency in game enough to almost make it to one of the battlepass cost.

[@Fyreffect]

In addition to this as of 250+ hours in HD2 now I have only purchased the game and DLC for Super citizen once I hit lvl 50 as a thanks for the game and I have unlocked and earned every Super Credit in game and in turn every warbond now (I saved up for the warbond ahead of time).

[@WeeWeeJumbo]

honestly i want them to produce a few Developer Appreciation packages, because it doesn’t seem like they can be making much money from the game’s current model

[@scallahan1294]

I got it to the cost since theyre easy to earn, but if u buying to support em I can see that

[@Armameteus]

@@WeeWeeJumbo If the game were free with MTX as their only source of income, I'd agree, but the game does cost $40 up front. And given the _millions_ of sales the game has gotten, that's _tens of millions_ in revenue, amid only around 100 employees. It's all about ratios; when a company has many hundreds of employees (as well as investors, publishers, etc.) and the production of the game costs potentially millions to make alone, the game needs to sell many millions of copies just to break even. Meanwhile, if a game is produced on a reasonable budget by a fairly lean company, without oversight from greedy investors or publishers, then it doesn't need to sell nearly as many copies comparatively. So long as they put the money they've already earned to use intelligently, don't overstep their bounds by getting greedy, and don't become a bloated company with too many employees to pay, as well as getting at least a bit of a drip-feed of income from MTX purchases, they should be fine pretty much indefinitely. All they really need to do is stay the course because they've already got a winning formula.

[@djtrac3r935]

@@WeeWeeJumbo Id love to see that too, I am grateful that the devs aren't greedy with their microtransactions but I know that this model is a slow burn kinda thing.

[@Viccerz]

This is one of the greatest games ever made. Full stop.

[@JuiceEternal]

Thank you, great vid. Love this game and a lot of the others you mentioned. Games like this, Hades, FromSoft games, BG3, returnal got me back into the gaming after a 15 year hiatus. I have tried many others from the Big developers like diablo, COD, the new FF games and have had a hard time enjoying those. The monetization thing is a major issue and I hope we see the end of it. I love how in HD2 you don't have to buy anything else ever again unless you want to. You can get credits from missions and war bonds, and the ones from missions can be farmed at the lowest difficulty. I am so stoked people like you are making these vids and telling the truth about the modern gaming industry

[@kagato23]

BG3 and now this. I am an old cranky shit but I really am glad the kids get to see what it’s like to actually have good games come out in succession that give you the goddamn game even though you only had to pay the one time. Nobody has to bombard you with adds or evoke brand loyalty, you know it’s good cause everybody, even that guy you argue with all the goddamn time cause he’s persistently wrong on the internet is responding to your “you should get this game” post with “yeah man, buy it.” This is nice.

[@darkchild130]

We need ship boarding actions, make those ballistics shields relevant. Also, urban landscapes for fighting street to street would be rad.

[@j.vinton4039]

HD1 had Urban Planets, and every now and then you’d have one of the factions push into them and you’d fight in urban ish environments. I hope they bring that back

[@darkchild130]

@@j.vinton4039 I remember. Had it on ps4 and Vita. Always pissed me off that the vita version didn't have ejecting brass.

[@hartantoanggoro]

"Helldivers Operation are a major success" Joel : And I take that seriously "The automaton invade Malevolent Creek"

[@wishmaster98]

someone needs to give this man a Ted talk on video games this dude hits some great points that i wish more can see

[@jefe9301]

You get a like for your t-shirt alone.

[@morcheba2184]

It's a drug ..i turned HD2 off for the evening after a few hours straight of helldiving then the sky at night show came on showing cassini entering saturns atmosphere and i couldn't help myself and had to go for a few more drops

[@mattsullivan2458]

Helldivers 2 took a bunch of parts I liked in Deep Rock Galactic, and put a live service spin on it that keeps me coming back every day, and I am 100% here for it. Rock and Stone foreva!

[@NoName......]

DRG is a live-service

[@thelastofitskind3034]

I'm thinking one day we will get on helldivers 2 and find ourselves with super armors

[@abdulfooligan1395]

8:43 brilliant analogy lol

[@nicholasmassey8279]

Little reminder arrowhead has a mere fraction of the resources and employees that AAA companys have but they still made a live service game thats fun isnt greedy and also drops something almost every week

[@Youn6J]

It’s such a crazy thing, it’s a mix of ambition, quality developing and the perfect amount of cool factor

[@xeroze01]

if 2023 is the year where baldur's gate shocks triple A studios, 2024 is really the year where smaller indie studios start reigning triumph over triple-A studios who are too busy choking on their own spit to provide a good gaming experience even when they have something good on their hands (looking at dragon's dogma 2 where it's evident the organization mismanagement turned it into a terrible game on multiple fronts)

[@Orrin_Hawke]

don't forget 2022, I feel this all sparked with elden ring.

[@gamingodyssey4328]

dragons dogma is not a bad game at all , people are just hating because of other people bringing up the microtransactions which you don’t need at all, at first i also thought it was a bad game but after i played it became one of my favourite games

[@xeroze01]

It's a game with a lot of flaws besides the mtx. I bought it on release n i have ditched it about two weeks into the game. It's arguably worse than its predecessor in multiple key aspects

[@Koranthus]

Something important to remember, a lot of the released content has been content that was in HD1, so it was probably already in the works and couldn't make it to launch or left aside for major order unlocks, while i think they will continue to expand and release stuff especially with the new job postings in order to create more content faster, i feel like we may see a content drought after the Illuminate comes out or shortly after, if they portion a few more releases into major orders after that. Hopeful but cautious for a steady cadence of content.

[@AlesMicik]

I don't know man... But watching videos about Helldivers 2 makes me feel so fucking goood

[@cdsackett]

I saw a TikTok of a dude saying Helldivers was dying. This was posted early March lol

[@AlesMicik]

@@cdsackett yeah.. Fuck that dude

[@Ikecicle]

Man I really want this game to come out on Xbox. I want to spread democracy as well

[@dikwillie]

I bought a ps5 just for this game.

[@jeremymullens7167]

I think it might be one of the things they’re hiring for.

[@Black34879]

Helldivers 2 rlly brought back a lot of childhood memories of playing Star Wars battlefront II on ps2

[@babyherc7328]

I FUCKING love this game. Elden Ring and Helldivers are some of the most enjoyment I've gotten from a game in years. I've never played a game that develops over time like Helldivers so this has been a very fun story to be a part of. Very happy for their success and hope more game companies follow suit. This may be the pivot that gets us out of the constant battle pass, seasons, battle royale loop.

[@doglog5748]

One of the most important things about this game is they are NOT including the activism/politics of 2024 in their game. Sure, there’s satirical, political undertones to the story, but it’s done from a place of humor. We can ALL get behind it together, as it’s not divisive in the least. It’s unfortunate to see how modern activists have really hurt the potential of a lot of newer games.

[@PROPHYZ]

Helldivers 1 was incredible as well.

[@RezaQin]

Pumped to play this game more for the new stuff. Reminds me of how the Mass Effect 3 multiplayer was handled but way better.

[@clintmcbride7830]

Yeah. ME3 was great because the content (new levels, difficulty, weapons, and characters) were "free". As in everybody got access to them. But everything but the levels were only accessible through loot boxes and while you got them at a steady enough pace if playing on higher difficulties (in game), paying real money felt incentivized. It just wasn't as manipulative as many games have been since. I will say one thing though. The TYPE of fun I have in HD2 reminds me a lot of the type of fun I had in ME3 multiplayer. Just bigger, more explosive, and with added democracy.

[@Rayfireful]

AAA studios create games to support their business model AA studios & Indie dev create business model to support their games

[@marhonic]

There’s so much ongoing potential for HD2 Every campaign they can make a unique story Maybe the Automotons and Termanids join forces, and planets have a mix of both races on them? Endless possibilities

[@youdontcarewho1am]

As a fan of the Starship Troopers book. First movie too. I digress. I want to see the exosuit get some options like swapping an arm with a flamethrower or 3 mini nukes instead of 15 rockets(maybe could be a ship module rather than individual strategems). A larger "hypersonic" spear like weapon that requires a backpack and targeting grenade that you and/or teammates would need to equip at start but could be used from anywhere on the map. Teammate on other side of map throws grenade and as long as you fire in the general direction, democracy is brought the enemy. Also an event based mini game or that happens at the beginning of a mission type where you are being shot at from the ground still in your pod and have to deploy chaff and avoid being shot out of the sky. Could be fun. Honestly could be awful too

[@Raptanax]

I would love to see them introduce something like the wizards from Magicka. To play as a wizard would be cool, of course... but here they would be even better as a new enemy faction. Sure, they're easy to kill, but hide behind their shields, teleport around, summon zombies and all manner of monsters...

[@Serviner]

it should be noted that in addition to all this, they are also working on some sort of cross over between helldivers and deep rock galactic. The future of this game is bright

[@EngineeredTheMind]

like others have said, you don't even have to pay for the war bonds or other upgrades if you just play enough. I do maybe a couple missions at night before bed, an have racked up enough super credits to get most items in the store, along with getting the new war bond passes each time they come out. super credits are hiding in each mission, should be able to get at least 10-20 on each mission except for the defend missions.

[@dair919]

Putting these major well established studios to shame. I love it!

[@fingolfin8210]

I think the future will be bright when you consider.We have yet to even see the introduction of all of the weapons vehicles and enemies that were in the first game.

[@remuscalpe2885]

for liberty and for democracy you will never feel bored playing HD2, you can see in numbers of hd players when choosing a mission, the numbers are astonishing