Boycott TF2

[@Lacheln-YO]

As someone who is broke, I say that I am doing a pretty good job at boycotting TF2!

[@krunken_isok]

if being broke is a crime, then i am already on several countries watch lists

[@Lacheln-YO]

@@krunken_isok fr bro

[@CrashHeelin]

Can I join you guys? Been broke since 2020

[@Lacheln-YO]

@@CrashHeelin join anytime bro

[@sudokuacrobatics]

Yep. I have also technically boycotted hundreds of games through my sheer lack of ability to pay for a game

[@RiffSilverthe1andonly]

All employees at Valve found dead after CEO said breathing was “Treadmill Work”

[@prof.penguin6454]

Oh hello riff

[@notawizard6714]

A TF2 shutdown would also be worse for Deadlock and CS2’s player count. No one would want to invest time in a multiplayer shooter game that a company has shown that they would rather neglect and shut down despite fans begging them to do the bare minimum maintenance. #FixTF2 #SaveTF2

[@МаксимГригорьев-ъ7ф]

If the don't want to do the treadmill work - they should stop trying to get treadmill money out of it as well.

[@Slogstin]

If they don't want treadmill work, maybe they should stop placing treadmills in their offices in form of live service games.

[@yahyagd5637]

0:36 he shows a cs2 bot farm,but as soon as his footage switches to deadlock he clarifys it isn't his footage meaning cs2 bot farm was his footage

[@shortBP520]

Huh? What is bro cooking😂I have seen that bot farm clip on the big esports youtube channel talking about cs2 bot farms its a public clip

[@yahyagd5637]

@@shortBP520 it's a joke about how he didn't clarify about how the bot farm clip was not his also

[@shortBP520]

@@yahyagd5637 ah, sorry about that my man. The joke flew over my head Im sorry

[@yahyagd5637]

@@shortBP520 nah it's fine,I did make the joke a bit vague

[@UnscaryGhosts]

No. Boycott Valve. We need to take this to every other title, and especially into Deadlock

[@z0ktwf680]

i do agree, but i think the focus should be more on deadlock than other titles, for what it seems valve dont care right now of the other games because high priority its working on deadlock (as they are on closed testing). they wouldnt like the new game would flop as the time and money invested on it going on waste because community (i hope) banded togheter against the game because decide to neglect the other titles.

[@andy-gamer]

Me giving half life 1 a bad review (saving tf2)

[@AndrewChumKaser]

I think the complete apathy people have towards it will be enough of a boycott. Artifact already flopped hard, so much that they went ahead and basically released it for free after the whole shit show, and proved that just because Valve made it doesn't mean it is guaranteed to sell well. Deadlock looks to be exactly the same, especially given that it is already shaping up to be a trend chasing live service wet fart of a game that even the beta testers are losing interest in fast.

[@jecksfoxofficial]

Good to know that some people get that its not just as about ONE game

[@oousan58]

Yeah man that's it, that is it. TF2 is suffering with bot and cheat issue since 2016. By 2024, Valve has made 2 games, a VR , a game engine, and a handheld console. If he had assigned just one employee to produce a solution to this problem on a half-time basis, radical solutions would have been produced within 1 year. Campaigning on social media and commenting negatively on the game, such as Sony or CDPR, is of no use to a company like Valve that lives off of commission. As you said, not making in-game purchases or not playing the game for a while would be significant actions.

[@finn-sw6rm]

if TF2 where to get shut down, there would be actual riots.

[@TheGreatOne-gw7xh]

No there wouldnt.

[@finn-sw6rm]

@@TheGreatOne-gw7xh if tf2 where to get shut down that would be major, people have spent hundreds of dollars on this game. and on top of that, it would piss off all the people that are involved in the CS2 and DOTA2 economy's because it shows that at anytime, the players inventory's can be erased, keep in mind that people of thousands of dollars worth in items in there inventory's, and tf2 plays a major role in the over all economy of steam(witch includes TF2, DOTA2, and CS2) so seeing that at anytime these people's items could be deleted would absolutely crush the steam economy, making people realize that the hundreds of dollars they spent, was a massive waste. so yes if TF2 where to shut down then there would be literal riots from not only TF2 fans, but also the fans of CS and DOTA.

[@s_callahan]

wasn't tf2 ignored for not making enough money in the first place...

[@D.v-O4u2c]

boycotting is the hard truth that will get valve off there asses either they do something or they shut down the game

[@animateclay]

I can’t agree more, we need to take it up a notch.

[@remipoujoulat7759]

No way in hell I will play this "Deadlock" thing if they dont take care of TF2 first ! Feds are getting involved ? Valve may be shutdown for allowing crimes to happen on their platform ? All the better ! The disappearance of Steam will break that monopoly Valve has on laziness...

[@GammaTheSpaceSnail]

Valve is steadily losing it's fans support and will keep doing so as long as they don't solve this issue. CS2, L4D, Dota2 players are in the same boat. Deadlock is dead on arrival if they ignore this. The only way to affect a company that won't listen is to not support them until they change.

[@capitanspoiler7393]

i'll do one over, i'm not buying any steam game as long as they don't fix this, i'm even avoiding PLAYING steam games

[@Demonikyu]

ngl i dont think boycotting tf2 itself will work game is already free, theres huge amount of f2ps valve mainly earns via steam sales

[@dominikcz198]

The fact we have to deal with the same problem in CS2 only adds fuel to the fire.

[@SubmittedAndReadable]

Why would they make a new live-service game, clearly adding constant updates is just treadmill work????

[@Matchlatch]

Theory What if Valve is actually the ones hosting the bots as a way to quietly kill off tf2?

[@e.j5813]

So it actually finally came up to this. Is a shame this will never taught in school. This honestly feel like a historical event. For the entire world

[@sansanimz]

You cant convince the big traders to stop buying though, and ppl that dont support this movement, even if ppl that support this dont buy, there are big traders that will buy crates and gamblers to buy mvm tickets and wont care, and consumers who will buy everything these ppl sell. a boycott wouldnt work

[@spyro91rep.productions22]

What do you expect? I’ve been boycott for five years for this dumb bots situation. I’ve been fighting in the front lines and a Battlefield from 2021 to 2023 against these darn bots. I do this for the community and this is not role-play this is truth, I want this game to be fixed as well. We have to continue to fight against and if they don’t fix this, my promise is not to buy any games on Steam anymore not even other games from the companies because I am done with this trash with lazing around ignoring us for many years for this game I love this game, but my choice sacrifices is to not buy any games for valve. I am done, and that’s a promise unless they fix it

[@Labyrinth6000]

Let them know that any future multiplayer game they make will not be seeing your money. There is zero incentive to buy a valve game if it’s gonna be flooded with bots and cheaters day 1.

[@GammaTheSpaceSnail]

You were good son real good, maybe even the best. I'll do the same if no fixes are done by the summer update. Valve deserves to fail if they keep ignoring their fans.

[@tenyearsinthejoint1]

The community: Valve. Please, Just fix our game.... Valve: Nope

[@iancommandeur4831]

I agree on the boycott. I'm not buying anything and have taken all my community market listing offline. Hopefully they'll notice the decreasing market size.

[@IndieLambda]

This is why I haven't touched Steam since June Third, the task isn't even running in the background. I've been playing Need for Speed Most Wanted 2005, Minecraft and Roblox during this whole time, I dusted off my Switch aswell, Tears of the Kingdom is so good.

[@Labyrinth6000]

Nah, as long as you don’t spend money, you’re good. It still cost money for them to run the website and the servers, so they lose more if you don’t spend. Besides, I got tons of games I bought in the past that I haven’t played.

[@sudokuacrobatics]

Roblox? Are you serious?

[@IndieLambda]

Just an example.

[@Dramilos]

My broke ass Will be part of this protest 💯💯🔥💢☝️☝️

[@ramsteele904]

Boycott tf2 and Valve/Steam as a whole. Do not give them your money

[@SnowingNorth]

Boycotting steam?I don't think pc players can do such thing.

[@Kurotama_STR]

Let's be real for a second. If TF2 becomes less profitable and it starts looking like people aren't "enjoying the game", then option 2 is extremely unlikely and at best, they just won't do anything, at worse, the official servers may get shut down and/or the game may end up behind a paywall, in short, they'd remove anything that costs them money when it comes to the game, aside from the game itself (as, with community servers being a thing, I do not believe they would even consider entirely removing the game from steam). While I do hope for the best, I am not at all optimistic about how the fixtf2 movement is going.

[@Drunken_Hamster]

Damn, how do you get your TF2 looking this nice?

[@ttpbroadcastingcompany.4460]

How're you going to boycott a free game that's chump change to Valve?

[@Remyie]

They are still adding at least 3 seasonal updates a year with multiple cases and more. I don't think they would even bother if it was such a tiny money for them.

[@ttpbroadcastingcompany.4460]

@@Remyie Ok, but hear me out: How much effort do they even put into what goes in the cases? What about the maps and taunts? They simply don't care if TF2 makes money or not. They don't care what happens because they know they don't have to. Steam already makes more money than any other game Valve has and CS:GO makes more money than TF2 can EVER hope to make, so TF2 is just a dash of gravy to them.

[@mike1564]

But Remyie what if I have a TF2 Gambling addiction? I can't just stop buying the cases! 😟

[@mantraki]

If you cant beat your addiction then beat it or replace it with something,

[@linuxization4205]

@@mantraki Yeah like Coke sniff

[@Clovernoris]

Just become an alcoholic. More honorable.

[@lebollsong]

99% of gamblers quit before hitting big ‼️

[@surveycorps4403]

Just gamble with something else

[@JurassicJordan]

I’m not even going to buy games from them till they do something

[@Zylenxx]

what if we get cs2 players to boycott valve for forgetting l4d and tf2

[@Zylenxx]

and yes, L4D NEEDS HELP TOO

[@Lifebloodangel]

Honestly when I hear that valve likes to keep their “reputation” after all the bots have done in tf2 I just laugh when I hear that. The bots and bot hosters have done a bunch of illegal stuff in tf2 that affected real life people. If anything this bot problem is ruining their reputation, so much so that valve can get sued for allowing the bot hosters to do this

[@Remyie]

Team Fortress 2 is a smaller bubble within Valve. Many people simply don't follow TF2 news and have no idea about its issues. Valve wishes to keep it that way, which is why we should keep talking about it and spreading the news.

[@Lifebloodangel]

@@Remyie but it’s also the fact these same bots are coming to cs2 as well … so I’m pretty sure with fixtf2 their reputation is getting pretty faulty

[@maze7873]

whats your modlist your game looks great?

[@CoolSs]

They don't deserve your hard earned money.

[@Lewyboy]

We need more boycotting and boykissing

[@uhhno841]

i wish us boycotting would help but they make a sht ton of money off the bots

[@4id3n360]

I’m pretty sure boycotting TF2 might end in TF2 shutting down. Valve might see that’s it’s not bringing in enough money and just decide it’s not worth it anymore.

[@Shavix]

Finally someone said it, thank You.

[@Grandmaster-Kush]

I'd rather see TF2 dead / shut down then see it desecrated and turned into a playground for malicious people and money launderers as it has been for years now.

[@ldratol]

I have head you can "farm" items in Man vs machine - but to play I have to buy tickets with real money? no, thank you :)

[@Luksed12]

I am commenting this comment for the algorithm. We need to share this and get as many people as possible to boycott. #fixtf2 #savetf2

[@err0r0b0]

TF2 is being ported to the Source 2 engine by Valve.

[@griggletv6974]

cool I've not bought microtrans actions from games since I was given birth day money

[@KayyZEE_VT]

Honestly,let’s face it valve won’t shoot themselves in the foot… their gonna keep it alive on life support and what I see happening is that they do what l4d did and shut down official servers…. Whether or not they do that I doubt it… but if when they release deadloc and say aight deadloc is your new tf2 and shut down tf2… that would NOT end very well… deadloc would die the moment it gets released if that happened…. But what’s realistically gonna happen is… they gonna either keep it on life support or shut down the official servers and any other non community server and only have community servers run…. That’s what I see happening

[@FoxyGamerLx]

Why does your TF2 look like that? Is it a fan game?

[@Cinderpelt2036]

Don't buy cosmetic and taunts in 2024 summer,scream fortress and smissmas don't instantly believe that valve promised fix the game #boycottTF2

[@jpuc5568]

I've been for the last 8 years

[@RandomGreenKirb]

Just boycott steam in general Buying any game on steam still gives valve 30% of profits from the games sale Just pirate or buy games on other platform until they do something

[@Lacheln-YO]

I suppose I was boycotting steam for almost my entire gaming career (almost all of my games are pirated, which I feel both good and bad about.)

[@railkick2277]

you can't boycott monopoly bruh

[@RandomGreenKirb]

@@railkick2277 piracy

[@railkick2277]

@@RandomGreenKirb tf2 community is not even 1% of steam users bruh

[@RandomGreenKirb]

@@railkick2277 downloading games for free

[@joyauton3301]

I mean microtransactions are kinda a waste of money in the first place so it's easy for me.

[@RandomJD]

Imma be real (as someone who hasn't spent a dime on tf2 since last year) Knowing valve as long as I have... It's more likely that valve will just shut down Valve servers and abandon Tf2, just like the old cs 1.6, the tf calssic, and even cs source And bots will need to browse for half empty servers or unmoderated servers to harass players We will live... but at what cost....?

[@Remyie]

That's just one of many possible outcomes. I don't believe Valve will shut down TF2 like those other games because TF2 has an in-game economy. Also, I don't think the removal of official Valve servers would be the end of TF2. While community servers aren't the best, they are currently miles ahead of the casual experience.

[@RandomJD]

Oh! I never said it'd kill TF2, I said Valve could shut down it's own "servers" I'd love to see community servers get back on the front page, I got my best moments in tf2 on community servers. And you are right! I never thought that the economy might get compromised, this really has many outcomes :o

[@TheBestLombax]

Boycot DEADLOCK too!

[@Biggerchungus20]

boycott steam as a whole instead because valve has other income sources

[@RogerDatSoldier]

1:52 No disrespect to you Remyie but I think this will age poorly. Regardless if people knew the petition movement or not, some will still buy cases and cosmetics either way. Saying to people that you should not buy something is literally impossible to do

[@Remyie]

Technically, yes, some people will ignore all of this and continue feeding their gambling addiction. That's why I said I wish. In the end, it's all about enjoying the game or not. The game, in its current state, is really difficult to recommend to anyone or enjoy. In my personal experience, I encounter at least one bot or cheater in every match.

[@szonig_pl3024]

Well, time to stop playing MvM then

[@pugintention2530]

bot owners are already trying to mercy kill the game you are just doing it more pathetically by telling people what not to do with their money.

[@iammonke5970]

Boycott Valve

[@cleric4933]

No.

[@endergamerxp]

i boycotte tf2 size they mute f2p account so nothing to change on me

[@chouinardfrancais]

#FixTf2 #ValveIsLazy #ValveCantCode

[@g0blin.79]

i agree

[@Multinic]

Hell yea

[@denifnaf5874]

#stormvalvehq

[@BallSniffer2700]

bullshit im leaving #fixtf2

[@railkick2277]

yada yada

[@blikthepro972]

keep crying

[@railkick2277]

@@blikthepro972 ?

[@RoofusRoof19]

For any item traders and/or "whales" watching, remember the less people play the game due to bots the less valuable your items become. Vote with your mouths AND with your wallets.

[@sugarpolecat4781]

Lol, imagine we stop paying nad Valve is like "aight, we pullin the plug then", just so that they won't have to do anything lmao

[@kesha2293]

Dont call slurs on deadlock :( I've been dreaming for them to make a game like that forever

[@GammaTheSpaceSnail]

Deadlock is dead on arrival

[@Remyie]

I wasn't using slurs against Deadlock. I was pointing out how Valve has so many projects going on while having very few employees, which means Team Fortress 2 gets very little attention. Not only that, but all of their games with VAC suffer from cheating in one way or another. They really need to either expand their team by hiring more people to maintain their games or stop releasing new games when they can't even handle their current ones. That's where my criticism comes from. I personally don't find Deadlock that appealing, but we'll see when it comes out. I just don't have great hopes for it.

[@TheQuaadFather]

We should be saying boycott Steam, lets go ahead and cut out steam sales on other games or digital goods too lads. No matter HOW low Gaben drops those prices, we aren't paying him a penny till this is fixed. They could make Doom: Dark ages pre-order for 99¢ and it wouldn't matter to me, fix my cartoon shooter. Not fuckin around anymore.

[@Jasonwithadot]

Good luck trying to convince the other steam users that dont play TF2

[@Redmont_]

whats after the boycott? still being on a leash like a dog because you cant quit your 2007 game full of cheating that someone YOU cant do a thing about it

[@Remyie]

So your solution is that we just quit? That will definitely happen if it continues like this. Until then, there's nothing wrong with addressing the issues with the game and boycotting.

[@Redmont_]

@@Remyie yes there is nothing wrong but it’s pointless at the end

[@fangrowls6336]

The boycott is going to work only if big traders delete their stuff and big trading sites like scrap or backpack and others shutdown or stop hosting their services temporarly until the problem is fixed. Never gonna happen tho because they dont wanna lose money and i cant really blame. One thing i can say is they re not truly tf2 fans. They are money fans more at the very least.

[@PDudeJr]

How does deleting something you already paid for do anything??? 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

[@fangrowls6336]

@@PDudeJr crashes the economy 🤡🤡🤡 Edit: Also if tf2 economy crashes other markets will suffer for it like cs2 or dota so yeah 🤡🤡🤡

[@fangrowls6336]

@@PDudeJr crashes the econ0my 🤡🤡🤡🤡