Highlights from The Goodwood Revival - The Carmudgeon Show w/ Jason Cammisa & Derek Tam-Scott Ep 165

[@MrTheTrafalgar]

could someone please tell me how to find the 250 racing clip Jason is talking about?

[@TheCarmudgeonShow]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/nnWvnXSbicd_f9E

[@blairwood8670]

Terrifyingly glorious!

[@craigykart]

Can we just take a second to consider this is what an F1 world champion is doing with his spare time alongside TV commentary?

[@jimiverson3085]

@@craigykart And his dad raced one of those cars on quite a few occasions. There are few enough that he may have raced the one in the video.

[@MaverickPhantom]

​@TheCarmudgeonShow yep... life goal... race a $23 million dollar car at Goodwood.... sounds good

[@godluckandgoodspeed]

Please. PLEASE. Do a Drag Race Replay with mail trucks. It's what the people need.

[@kieranmandy9987]

This!

[@joker19583]

Germany has an ev postal, australia has the postie bike, i'd like a french laposte citroen and an italian 4x4 panda for the alps. Let's go postal.

[@neillaw9867]

Really glad you enjoyed Goodwood, its a 20min drive for me and love going. Not only is the racing great its the world class drivers who drive there making it like that, Indy Car champs, F1 champs, Le Mans winners ect ect and you can tell they are having huge fun. Hope you guys come back soon.

[@bolt5564]

We need an Icons on this Mail truck

[@Jadawin-kk3fz]

40:30 --> YES! Please do an on the site Show concerning Goodwood Revival or Members-Meeting. What happens in Goodwood is outstanding and like no other. I very much enjoyed this episode. Great work, guys!

[@MrThrustSSC]

Went to Goodwood Revival in 2016. Derek sumarizes the event perfectly. Especially the feeling of being transported back to the era. It sometimes feels like walking through a filmset.

[@gregdeschodt9346]

That mail truck looks like a Multipla had unholy relations with a dumpster.

[@ramoncoppens3781]

x))))) 100%

[@Petrospect]

"I'd rather be doing the sliding (or fucking)" Top carmudgeon line. Or bottom, I won't judge!

[@AJax7886]

I appreciate the insert of Jason's frying pans.

[@californiacanyonsandbackro2109]

So this would be an appropriate time to mention that a Revelations episode on the Jaguar E-Type is something I’ve wanted to see for quite some time now. It was a car that significantly advanced the state of the art in sports cars for its time. I mean, a semi-monocoque chassis with disc brakes and independent suspension at all four corners and a twin-cam inline six just landed on the scene back when Ferraris had live axles and space frames and the typical Porsche used drum brakes and pushrod four cylinders. I think it fits the theme. Plus you’d get to spend some time staring at an E-Type, and that’s not a bad way to pass a few hours.

[@michaelking6596]

@JasonCammisa there are full replays of all days of the revival from each year in the Goodwood KZbin channel...

[@marcmigneault8364]

When you have a British car, you should never suspect the German car of leaking. And about Italian aesthetics, I have one word: Multipla. 😂 Keep up the good work!

[@martingardens]

Beat me to the Multipla.

[@ukwan]

I live 30 minutes from Goodwood, its a great venue to have on the doorstep.. It's about an hour to Brands Hatch too.. So you get Festival of Speed, Goodwood Revival, BTCC, Historic F1, Formula Ford Festival and Porsche shows etc.. We also have the British Motor Museum about 1.5 hours away. The South of England really is a bit of a motoring mecca.. Plus a shit tonne of windy country roads to blast around. Can't go wrong really.

[@Petrol_and_Cabernet]

If you read any of the requirements for the NGDV and the differences between the USPS and Amazon's requirements, you would realize that there is a "Matt Farah- Cybertruck" level misunderstanding of the new mail truck.

[@wmwnwmn]

Ooh, please tell me what Matt Farrah cybertruck misunderstanding is!

[@Heyitsallgoodman]

A whole video about it. Do a search ​@@wmwnwmn

[@adriansimon6679]

Not sure if the comments mention it, but the Revival has been live streamed on KZbin for a few years now.

[@Chris-zz2qy]

We are lucky enough to go each year to Goodwood revival. You guys should also try the members meeting that is brilliant too see cars like your Rover V8 flat out

[@mintynuggets]

Next ep is probably the rip sacco ep, Mr clapton should forgo the clap to pay respects

[@tonyclewes8]

Non swearing going well !

[@M67v]

Idk I find unhinged Jason very entertaining

[@ianhardin1148]

I love all the old school fabrication demonstrations, like English wheel, etc.

[@matthewlange8616]

Our local post lady probably won't miss the LLV. Her LLV recent caught fire at the end of our road. She was fine but all our junk mail didn't survive.

[@Dtamscott]

This is a positively insane story

[@britboy70]

My twin nieces go to revival every year dressed in 1950’s outfits. I used to do track days at goodwood all the time and also learnt to fly there. The Track is awesome and I would often see JKay with his purple Lamborghini lapping the track.

[@TJH1]

I suspect the Ferrari 250 GTO you saw was Nick Masons's, the drummer of Pink Floyd. He purchased it in 1977 for GBP 37,000 ($44,000). He has 250GTO license plate. Races the hell out of it, he is a legend.

[@eugenux]

it might be the one with Damon Hill behind the wheel, from the 1999 edition; it is currently doing the rounds on instagram if the algorithms believe you're into those kinds of things.

[@craigykart]

It's not the Nick Mason GTO, although that is at goodwood all the time. The one Damon's driving in the video is owned by Anthony Bamford (owner of the JCB construction machinery firm - it even has a little JCB sticker on it, as do all the family cars). Damon's dad Graham Hill (both of them won the F1 driver's championships) drove this exact 250GTO in the 1960s so this is nicely circular.

[@andrewp734]

The new backdrop and studio looks AMAZING good job guys.

[@lloydjones9051]

I've been frustrated that there was no new Carmudgeon show to listen to and now I'm sad that I have to wait another week. Excellent job fellas

[@janwlaaa]

Thank you for appreciating the esthetic of Goodwood. It is proof that there's an achievable alternative to the ugly, infantile mess of a world we currently live in.

[@0o0ification]

I like tuning in to any podcast that covers both Goodwood and the LLV in one long confab

[@ramdynebix]

“Normal” countries just get sprinters, Ducato’s or Transporters if you need a mail van. Or get a Caddy, Partner, berlingo if you need something smaller. OTS FTW!

[@carsonj4031]

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE REVELATIONS ON THE LLV

[@erics3596]

And Jason completely missed the Grumman Kub Van - you should KNOW this MAN - they are A1 and B1 (depending on the model) based

[@bolt5564]

My local post office doesn't have an LLV. Instead they have one ancient male Jeep, and otherwise the drivers just use their own cars. So my mail currently has been delivered by a lady driving her own front bench seat Impala. She just sits in the center and only drives with her left-hand and foot.

[@bolt5564]

I live in rural Indiana.

[@DOOMEDLONDON]

As a Goodwood Road Racing Club member I approve of this message.

[@clownbaby420]

6:50 derek remembers the pony express

[@cparunsankar7363]

hey guys here is an idea put a different cars in the background for every episode with just enough lighting so that we can see some features of the car but not the whole thing so we can guess it in the comment section

[@HandsomeAlex25]

With the Jensen convertible, the roof likely has the same ability to deflect rain up or down, so may as well show off the interior.

[@bolt5564]

The Ford E-Transit has an MSRP almost $10,000 less than the gas Oshkosh defence ones.

[@coreykononchuk]

I seem to remember the BRZ at the Isle of Man press in 2012, and I was following on as a person obsessed with getting a BRZ (which I would get in 2013), so that tracks. The Revival is definitely on my to-do list!

[@kingmeeko1]

I've been watching the Goodwood revival for several years now, and it is one of the few events where one can watch true car control combined with hair-raising close racing with many former F1 or Indy drivers. It is my favorite event. I enjoy it more than F1, which is saying something, I have been watching F1 events since 1978.

[@macronato]

I mean, this event sounds like heaven, hehe! :)

[@chrisapril76]

our mail person just switched from the grumman to a small sprinter van type thing and i hate if - for the noise! i always used to hear when the mail came, not it's just another car. Not sure why i care when the mail comes, but it was comforting haha

[@blaineadams7484]

Well crap Jason. At least now I know why my Terrain's master cylinder is now leaking. Thanks a lot man😊

[@WillJacksonNW]

In Roy, WA there are 2 rural route USPS vehicles that are RHD Xterra (maybe early 2000s) and I shit you not, Turbo diesel manual trans 4x4 Toyota Previa. It's glorious

[@mitchell-wallisforce7859]

The Goodwood Revival is a time capsule with no compromises, and unlike the Festival of Speed, it hasn't sold out.

[@pauljan2521]

Now you have to check the kids cars for e-drive components like the tour de france.

[@wmwnwmn]

The new mail truck looks like something out of a Pixar movie

[@urbanstrencan]

Great episode keep it up ❤🤟🤟🤟

[@CraigYope]

Damn it Jason! I just stepped outside and what did I hear? The mail truck. It IS distinctive but I never actually acknowledged that I knew it. Thanks! 😂

[@AlainSTO]

Speaking of looking like a cartoon, I can't be the only one who sees Duckman when I see that postal delivery vehicle.

[@cgmoog]

Just signed up for updates on the Revival.

[@sunilsolanki]

That 250 GTO clip is insane! And I believe that the driver was Damon Hill.

[@Fordguy1997]

If you’re going to do the drag race with the LLV, don’t forget about the less common FFV (which uses the Ford 4.0 V6), and the Metris

[@jasonbenson2655]

I was a mail carrier once. The LLV's were / are such incredible pos death traps I have ever been in. None of them drive well, all of them rattle, creak and flex. It's like driving a tin shed powered by an 80's moped engine. If you manage to get a ride in one try the training center in Richmond as they are in slightly better condition (or they were 10 years ago lol)

[@THMSKA]

You know what. I'm with Jason on this. Our mail truccks should at least not be an eyesore.

[@Santoshlv426]

Great discussion as always and the new camera angles make for a more involved 3D viewing experience. The car on show behind the table needs better lighting. I actually didn't see it much less know it was a MErcedes S Class until it was mentioned at the end.

[@solacemusic242]

A few weeks back I subscribed to the Goodwood Revival race channel and find myself laughing, gasping, shouting (especially at the pit lane situation!) and thoroughly enjoying the races. Those drivers a obviously quite mad. I have a new bucket list item

[@mdot633]

“You’ve described a box.” 😂

[@deancostello14]

We're just called Limeys because our sailors used to eat caribbean limes to ward off scurvy, whereas you americans used other fruit. That's it, all good to call us limeys.

[@tonyclewes8]

Hey Septics we dont care about the limey thing !

[@coreykononchuk]

I was today years old when I learned this. But Jason is older than me so I feel a little better.

[@LorraineHinchliffe-vg5cb]

Ironic, considering us Brits are a bunch of Lemons😂. So ironic, even Americans will laugh.

[@ricardosilva-xz1yt]

Any chance it has at least some correlation to the abundant gin and tonic consumotion that usualy involved said limes, and subsequent intoxication... i wonder

[@tonyclewes8]

@ricardosilva-xz1yt pink gin - gin and angostura bitters for Royal Navy officers grog rum and water for other ranks. Both gin and rum overstretch so if spilt it didn't spoil gunpowder. Grog ration ended 1970 - 2 cans of beer per day substituted

[@JK061996]

The Oshkosh definitely has a Pixar look, I think it's cute. By the way I live in the Italian Alps and we have the Panda 4x4 as a delivery vehicle but now that it's been discontinued it will be difficult to find a replacement

[@deancostello14]

I've been to the Revival a couple of times, highly recommended, me and my friends just got general admission tickets for £90ish for a single day that's all you need if you're on a budget. Grandstands would've been nice but we spent all day walking around anyways, apart from going to watch the St. Mary's and the TT.

[@mattr8904]

SWEAR JAR! 😆

[@jt-hb8lh]

The w221 in the background though 👌👌

[@grantlauzon5237]

We need a racing series in which kit cars are used to continue goodwood style races. Get some cobras from Factory 5 and build cheap replicas for the other cars. An E-Type can't be that expensive to make with modern manufacturing.

[@rizakatsudon]

Watching this in a LLV right now Edit 1: I don't give two sh:ts if the Oshkosh truck looks like a robot platypus; as long as it got good turning radius, AC, and good visibility, I'll love it. Edit 2: Jason is right about the door-by-door stop-and-go delivery or "Jeeping", it feels like torture. God help you if the LLV you got takes two tries per start.

[@Ludoppicco]

car looked good in the background

[@Nomikeal]

Ahhh Goodwood, the Renaissance festival for car nerds

[@glynsmith2843]

You're saying that Italians would only like good design. I offer Multipla as evidence to the contrary. Defence rests.

[@AJax7886]

The first problem with an all electric mail truck fleet that occurs to me is charging. That's an awful lot of electric capacity to recharge all of the trucks every day. Each post office has however many of them, and even slow charging would require massive upgrades to every post office parking lot in the country that uses them.

[@johnpoldo8817]

Get out the curse word bowl and $100 bills. This show needs it a couple of times every month.

[@amyboehm802]

RIP the Carmudgeon swear jar. Also, PSA for the week: Hagerty is now channel 2545 on Samsung TV. Cheers all!

[@garyonnen7634]

Good fun.

[@CTP1111]

I gotta ask, did you get that LED "On Air" sign from TONY at LC Sign? If so, that's hilarious

[@lucianbakerii4047]

This expenditure of USPS funds directed by the postmaster general heavily invested in FedEx makes perfect sense to boost his FedEx stock value.

[@nbmaheswara]

Just in time

[@leotam3372]

Rosa Parks buses were old looks IIRC - New Looks ran around NYC til the late 90s (refurbed in the late 80s) - I miss that glorious detroit sound

[@leotam3372]

The Oshkosh reminds me of James William Bottomtooth III from Family Guy

[@craddatzm]

Of course! Here’s the translation: Do you have any books you can recommend for me to start building my library on topics related to automobiles?

[@valimicu3100]

About the leaking oil issue, there are memes on my facebook, especially about BMWs, that say that those are the horses sweating, not oil leaking.

[@CarToneHK]

The more valuable cars racing at Goodwood can sometimes be replicas, accurate ones that cost millions instead of the tens of millions

[@brandonherrera2891]

Fucking excellent chat.

[@matthewpeterson3329]

I've been a part of design teams working on government contracts. There is a reason that new Oshkosh mail truck is so ugly. Uncle Sam gives you a list of must-have specs and the team that checks the most boxes AND has the best price wins the contract. It's more specific than that, but that is basically how it works. So they likely had a front visibility requirement, as well as a bunch of other needs, and sometimes the only way to give them everything they want results in a fugly-ass product. To change the looks would likely mean the inability to physically provide a requirement.

[@jeremiahcurry4875]

It is strange to me that the discussion about the new mail trucks was "should we go gas or electric". Hybrids seem like the perfect solution for a mail truck, garbage truck, etc. Any vehicle that is constantly switching between accelerating to the next house and braking for the current one would be ideal for regenerative braking. But it would still have the range to get to far-flung neighborhoods if needed. And the technology is very reliable now.

[@Finlandese]

The 250 GTO’s racing are replicas. Not cheap, but not 50 mil eur cars. In any case, Goodwood revival is an amazng event!

[@michaelking6596]

The 250GTO's at Goodwood aren't replicas.. they are real.. that why they moved them out of the RACTT event and made the Kinara trophy for them, them 250SWB , DB4GT etc and not against the hot rodded cobra and E-types.

[@Finlandese]

@@michaelking6596 In my understanding the famous Chandok fireball 250 "GTO" he drove was a replica based on a 250 GTE, ch.no. 3731GT. The owner of that car owns a proper GTO it's supposed to look like, ch.no. 3851GT.

[@michaelking6596]

​@@Finlandese nick Manson original races most years, the ex JCB 64 series II GTO races each year, the ex Moss GTO races...while a few tool room cars have raced ( one of the 250LM was a car built using many original parts) you'll find most of the cars are genuine...

[@Munkenba]

@@michaelking6596 Most of the big money cars at revival are replicas, commissioned by owners who have the real thing. They're supposed to transplant the vin plates over for the races but I doubt they always do. It's a bit of a dirty secret but no one is actually going to risk destroying original Scaglietti panels like that. (source: I know several people who supply and support the Revival race cars professionally, they're never shy about admitting it in private)

[@Suprahampton]

Mk1 & Mk2 Jags are awesome but don't forget their Daimler cousin with the 2.5L V8

[@simonmacmullen9102]

I am totally confused at to why the American post needs specialist vans built by the defence industry of all people. Here in the UK the Royal Mail just buys Transits. Italy uses Pandas, presumably Deutsche Post uses Sacco-era 190es or something. Why not just buy something vaguely domestic off the shelf?

[@hduncan2587]

Regarding the traffic and classic cultures here versus England... we're more instant gratification and impatience, I'd say. Though there is the odd 240Z or MG running around, but more often the "classics" have become more like the '70's and '80's. Throw restomods into the mix, and again it makes the classic car scene a little bit easier to deal with. Though I must admit, I do like the 1954 Kaiser with presumably Catfish-Camaro (going off gauges) LS swap and IRS/inboard brake setup in our inventory (aside from the trashy looking Cadillac XLR wheels ruining it). Way different to yet another Bel Air....

[@deathblossom1979]

I love the show and love the new format but can we get some better framing on the overs please? Maybe Anthony Esposito should visit again and show you guys how to setup a camera 😅 Example : 18:24 with Derek's tea blocking Jason's face and giant swath of negative space on the left side of frame

[@Finlandese]

Two days is a minimum for the Goodwood revival

[@johan5293]

250 GTO which races in Goodwood are replicas: owners of original cars have official permission from organisers and FIA to run them. And I am sure these rich and competitive people in the process of manufacturing are using all modern technologies to deliver the maximum

[@craigykart]

The Nick Mason 250GTO is original but the engine it races with is a copy made by Crosthwaite & Gardiner. Nick Mason's take on bodywork damage to his car is "it's a racing car, and it's worth enough to fix when it gets dings". A lot of the goodwood entrants are rich enough to behave like this -- they have enough dough to repair anything and the industry exists in the UK to fix anything.

[@fraserwright9482]

As are most of the cars at the Goodwood revival. But should you really care? Do you go to a Formula Drift event concerned about Vaughn G having last year's car body? It's entertainment, it's a very expensive way to be offered a Cigar.

[@nickzhang7862]

“Everything is leaking” spoken like a true 80 year old

[@obsidian....]

50:34 Nope, it's Livestreamed for free on Goodwood and Sky Sports KZbin channels

[@jameswhitehead6758]

It's a S10 with a narrowed front track. Sketchy AF at anything more than about 40mph. I was a temp mail carrier in college....

[@martingardens]

Bring back the swear jar.

[@Jupiterider1]

Good show. Just an observation but, you had a W221 S Class parked in the background. Is this an affirmation the W221 is the most beautiful modern era S Class? As an owner of an incredibly clean Diamond White 2011 S550 Sport Package it would be nice if their values shoot up a stratospheric 2%! 🙄👍🏼

[@ravichjakkaratropart5083]

It's funny to me that the LLV is made by the same company that made the F-14 Tomcat; in my opinion, one of the most beautiful jet-powered fighter aircraft ever made.

[@craigykart]

They also made the agcat, which is basically a flying tractor. Not a pound for air to ground my ass! :)

[@urbancliff]

@9:40 Just a reminder that Italy thought the Fiat Multiplia was an acceptable thing to put on the road

[@Michael_Lorenson]

I don't know just how widespread this is, but I was told that many of the 'vintage' cars being raced are actually replicas.

[@Loothansa]

Speaking of Goodwood and Radwood, when do we get Litwood? sorry

[@withintheglass2170]

Supposedly the Hybrid/electric wasn’t made because they just barely reached a weight where they did not have to develop it

[@kowosky]

Check out the The Owlet is a Frazer Nash special at Goodwood. If that dosent put a smile on your face nothing will.

[@NISSANSKYLINEGTRBNR]

Pink wheels takes to the S-Class well

[@zestyorc6506]

The swear jar lasted one episode, lol.