How a cutting edge treatment sped up Matthew’s recovery - LONG COVID RECOVERY STORY

[@chandyclove3335]

🎉 good for you! Hyperbaric oxygen therapy didn't work for me, but I'm so glad it helped you!

[@etfremd]

Tell me more…I am working on a therapy…

[@chandyclove3335]

@@etfremd are you doing hyperbaric oxygen or are you talking about a different therapy..? I did it 19 times for 1-2 hours each, with no improvement.

[@pamponsart]

@chandyclove3335 no, I did not do hyperbaric therapy.

[@Denise_with_Eternally_Fit]

Thank you for the hope! I have been beyond discouraged this summer, and I needed to hear this.

[@livingwithmecfs]

I'm so glad it helped 😊

[@GingerPeacenik]

41 years with this disease and I've just about tried it all. The *most effective* treatment by far is a clean organic whole food keto diet - sugars, very low carbs, no seed or vegetable oils, no starchy veg or tropical fruits even. Carnivore is also an option, though I hate eating meat - plus intermittent fasting and 3-5 day water fasts. Your mood can improve significantly with this diet. Regular weight training and long brisk walks, contact with nature, and stress reduction also helps, as well as berberine, NMN, krill or fish oil, resveritol, D3, K2, iodine, taurine, GlyNac, turmeric, B1, no flush niacin, zinc, and other B complex vitamins.

[@livingwithmecfs]

Sounds like you have lots of really good strategies. Thank you for sharing what has helped you

[@Blackpool999]

Just curious if LDN worked for you? Thx

[@GingerPeacenik]

@@Blackpool999 no, it did not. Spent more than a year on it and noticed little difference. Only what I listed above helped.

[@Blackpool999]

@@GingerPeacenik Thank you for the swift response. 25 month Long Covid Hauler here. The unlimited options of halway effective treatments give me more dizziness than the one from Covid/Vacc injury. Do you think a Carnivore diet is good for such post Viral Syndromes? Thx. Completed my first 3 day water fast and am on most of the supplements youve mentioned.

[@jac1161]

​@@Blackpool999 helps me but I have way more than longcovid since march 2020 - it helps for the mold toxicity which is actually what my "longcovid' is. MCAS is what drives all of it. I was on LDN for years for PMS actually. Mainstream medicine told me to cut that out, as well as vitamins, when I had severe covid in march 2020 (nurse who was treating covid SO easily before it had a name and the mandates. Once it did, people were "dying" (murered). I live to tell from both perspective. It felt like rayDeeA shun poisoning actually. Long Covid is NOT diagnosed unless you see Dr Bruce Patterson because HE only can see the spike protein. I did HBOT for 180 hours, in the steal chamber, then soft. I needed EBOO (blood cleansing, UV light and filtering). Long covid is VERY complex and it very individual because it's usually not long civd Mold and hidden lyme, MCAS. HBOT is great until/unless you are going back home to a moldy home which is everywhere because of what's coming down from the sky. I had critical care level severity, with stroke and seizures, blindness.....so no easy case, BUT finally having more goods than bad, but need a lot of antihistamines, periodic ivermectin. It's multi--approach and takes a LONG time

[@101Patriot]

I have LC ME/CFS for almost 3 years. Unfortunately 40x Hyperbaric O2 sessions didn't make a difference for me. LDN seems to be helping somewhat.

[@chandyclove3335]

I've also done hyperbaric oxygen, with no improvement. I'll see an initial improvement when starting LDN and initial decline when coming off, but don't know if it has moved the needle overall or not. Some other things have been that way as well...such as Corlanor and intermittent fasting so I may rotate them to have that positive affect more often and hopefully it can snowball into overall improvement 🤷🏼‍♀️

[@livingwithmecfs]

Sorry to hear HBOT didn’t help you but glad LDN seems to be helping. Sometimes it can be a bit trial and error to find what works for you

[@livingwithmecfs]

I find it can be a bit trial and error to find what works for you. Rotating through different things sounds like a good idea. Fingers crossed you see some improvement

[@sneakypress]

@@livingwithmecfs Would be interested to know if you think Covid-19 was the cause of your illness ? And if you were treated with any medications before or when you became ill ( that is , doctor prescribed medications , ) . ( As many believe the doctor prescribed medications caused their long - COVID illnesses. )

[@livingwithmecfs]

@@sneakypress I can’t speak for Matthew (he created this video as a guest for my channel) but I have had ME/CFS for 17 years. The trigger was a kidney infection and I was given lots of antibiotics to treat it. They didn’t seem to do much to help the infection but did cause me lots of digestive issues which I believe are an underlying cause of my ME/CFS. I do wonder if I hadn’t been give all those antibiotics would I have developed ME/CFS especially as there are several studies showing people with ME/CFS (and I think Long Covid) have an altered gut microbiome

[@steffenrunge1884]

Everything you describe I am suffering now since 18 months. Can t work, always tired, breath and heart problems .Gave it a try to work in my former job. Impossibble more than 2 hours and my brain stopps allowing me reading or writing. Have so many docs and medicines but we are not moving. If anyone should know any clinic like Aviv clinik or any specialist who does still attend new long covid patients. I was so happy and positiv always but nowadays feeling like a walking dead

[@livingwithmecfs]

I am sorry you are struggling. If you are in the US I would recommend RTHM. They specialise in supporting people with ME/CFS and Long Covid. The founders also have firsthand experience of these illnesses so understand the challenges you are facing. In this video one of the founders, Dr Curtin, talks about her own experience of ME/CFS kzbin.info/www/bejne/apPGZqKPf8hgi80 And in this video she shares some helpful resources kzbin.info/www/bejne/iqu3eWild8Z_n6c

[@steffenrunge1884]

@@livingwithmecfs thank you so much. Unfortunately in Germany but will watch the videos definately

[@melbird-dw3su]

The transcript is not coming up, fyi. I will have to listen again to gather those treatments to get spellings, but glad you are better. Maybe list things for easy access? I have LC and not interested in buying another book from anyone, but appreciate those who share what worked for them. I would like to know the place and treatment that worked for you. SLC is only one state away from me. We are all desperate and not all of us have funds for the treatments. Thanks and again, glad you are better.

[@bevillenz]

Amazing, about 20 HBOT sessions didn't do a darn thing to help me in my journey with severe CFS/fibromyalgia.

[@livingwithmecfs]

Thanks for sharing your experience, sorry it didn’t work for you. After hearing a few Long Covid success stories with HBOT I was thinking of trying it for my ME/CFS but hadn’t found anyone else with ME/CFS who had tried it so it is helpful to hear your experience. Do you know what pressure the chamber was? Apparently that can make a difference

[@bevillenz]

@@livingwithmecfs I don't know the specific pressure but it was a state of the art HBOT unit I was in. I don't believe there are any good theoretical reasons why HBOT should work for CFS/FIBRO/LONG COVID.

[@livingwithmecfs]

@@bevillenz ah ok, thanks for the info

[@chandyclove3335]

@@bevillenz yep, I did 19 and nothing 🤷🏼‍♀️ I was so hopeful about it, as I'm sure you were as well.

[@jac1161]

I did 180 hours steal chamber. Nothing worse if you're living in mold, have lyme underlying, reactivated EBV what helped me after 4 years of near suiidal hell and I am thick skinned woman, brain to toe, complete with stroke, seizures, with no medical help as it was march 2020........I can tell you that it's NOT just HBOT. Nope I did EBOO, IV methylene blue, ozone, killed the seed oils, ,found which supplements I needed, which I didn't, etc. But 20 hours is nothing......at least 40, break, and 40 more. Check for parasites, mold (not always obvious), EBV titers, etc.

[@pamponsart]

I'm better after 3.5 years by taking (among MANY) things various Amino acids to support my Mitochondria and I'm 82 years old. I particularly like L-Carnosine.

[@brendabrenner2891]

Am. Lc 3 years, take nac, reservatrol, trying to get ldn,, what else helped. U 🙏♥️

[@pamponsart]

@@brendabrenner2891 alpha lipoic acid Astragalus, lots of D3 plus K2

[@livingwithmecfs]

oh wow it must be quite a challenge to deal with long Covid at 82! Sounds like you have found some good strategies.

[@cathytilford388]

Great job beating long COVID. Iam 73 & made it through 7 months & still having symptoms. Iam doing in-depth research on mitochondria & will look into your suggestions. Thank you for your info.

[@brendabrenner2891]

@@pamponsart tu im 83❤️❤️❤️

[@FigsFrogPrince]

I'm 30+ in with extreme fatigue, and glad to find you well. GP no help, on my quest for what works, thank you!

[@livingwithmecfs]

Unfortunately many GPs don’t have much to offer but the online Long Covid community has a lot of strategies to share. Good luck in your quest of finding what works for you

[@justinf1343]

I was an ultra endurance athlete and i too have developed PEM. I have had covid multiple times and this is very interesting.

[@mrjackolanterns]

Most, if not all of us Long Covid sufferers were very athletic prior to infection. Makes sense to me now.. When you are exercising 5-6 days a week, you are putting a lot of stress on the nervous system. And when something like Covid hits, it just completely obliterates you because the immune and nervous system is already severely taxed due to the constant hormetic stress from exercise. Totally changed my idea of what fitness truly is.

[@Seagoatsunday]

same! mom and nordic skiier in Alaska!!! destroyed my nervous system and inner ear..tinnitus everafter.

[@mrjackolanterns]

@@Seagoatsunday Whenever I get a flare after some very, very minor activity, I also get tinnitus...along with nausea, fatigue, trouble swallowing, diarrhea, eye pain, loss of voice and severe mood swings.... from extreme rage attacks to soul crippling depression. LC is a personal hell.

[@peterwebb988]

A lot of people with long covid got sick before the vaccines were developed. I was in ICU for 58 days at the he age of 70 in March 2020.Then 40 days in the rehab ward learning to walk,swallow,use a knife and fork,use my phone.You temporarily loose a lot of your fine motor skills. In Australia,the peak body,the AMA does not release any treatment info to GPs,so you basically have to go it alone.My body is good now,but my lungs are shot,due to I believe,excessive ventilation for 58 days. I'm about to go down the track of nattokinase -serapeptase enzyme treatment which is showing good efficacy in treating microclots and general circulatory slowdown.Ill let you know how it goes.

[@livingwithmecfs]

Oh wow, it’s sounds like you had a really tough time. I’m glad things have been improving for you. Fingers crossed the nattokinase serapeptase helps. There is another video on my channel where someone shares how successful nattokinase was for him kzbin.info/www/bejne/mXSXnpptjqtpj5o

[@frankbonfield4123]

Yes. But he didn’t answer the question I can’t find the answer anywhere was he vaccinated and how many times? it’s a simple question and I see avoidance all the time in these comments.

[@msmith8818]

@@frankbonfield4123 I took a risk this past June, did some grocery shopping without a mask, and got Covid. After a miserable week, I thought I was done with it. Then came the LC: terrible fatigue, brain fog, dizziness and oxygen problems that continue. Before that, I've been careful to mask up in public, and I've had every available Moderna vaccine and booster. I've been reading about antihistamines for LC. I tried strong doses of Benedryl and Pepcid AC, which seemed to reduce brain fog, but they are hardly helping with fatigue, and they raised my blood pressure.

[@jolenekapper5691]

A girl my son runs with used cryo. It helped her tremendously but still had small issues. I offered her the use of my red/infrared sauna and she seems to be doing awesome now. I think the combination of extreme cold mixed with extreme deep healing heat is a shock to the body to kind of reset itself.

[@livingwithmecfs]

that is interesting! Thanks for sharing 😊

[@orion9k]

I had all this, I cured myself with clean diet avoiding high carbs, sugar and grains, a whole range of supplements, long walks twice per day and slow pace weight lifting (resistance training). Ive been symptom free all this year but having sort of relapse atm, it seems stress makes my immune system break down that then allows these different oppertunity infections to spread in my body combined with my own immune system attacking my body (autoimmune disorder of some sort).

[@GingerPeacenik]

Yep. 41 years with this disease and I've just about tried it all. The *most effective* treatment by far is a clean organic whole food keto diet - sugars, very low carbs, no seed or vegetable oils, no starchy veg or tropical fruits even. Carnivore is also an option, though I hate eating meat - plus intermittent fasting and 3-5 day water fasts. Your mood can improve significantly with this diet. Regular weight training and long brisk walks, contact with nature, and stress reduction also helps, as well as berberine, NMN, krill or fish oil, resveritol, D3, K2, iodine, taurine, GlyNac, turmeric, B1, no flush niacin, zinc, and other B complex vitamins.

[@livingwithmecfs]

Thanks for sharing what has helped you. Fantastic you have been symptom free this year!!! I’m always looking for people to share their story so if you fancy making a short video about what helped you improve then drop me an email at [e-mail]

[@ocean4659]

Stress makes everything worse for me

[@lady4191]

You must be rich

[@juvesaucedo]

Hello! thanks for sharing the story. Regardin the Hyperbaric oxygen therapy there are the medical grade and therapeutic grade. The medical chambers are up to 3 ATA which is 3 atmospheres equivalent to 44 PSI. The therapeutic ones are up to 1.5 ATM equivalent to 22 PSi. Which one did you take?

[@livingwithmecfs]

Matthew had treatment at Aviv Clinics, their website says the chambers go up to 2.0 ATA

[@jefftaich2761]

Mathew, I have one question. After you got Covid, will you ever vaccinated and if so, how many times are you vaccinated? Very encouraging hearing you got better.. I am almost 4 years and do it myself. Exact same symptoms except a little worse. I did 40 sessions of hyperbaric oxygen in a row at 15 feet for an hour and 20 minutes each. Had no help from it. I’m glad it helped you. I’ve done everybody’s program out there . Dr. Patterson’s did not help either.

[@renaissance5300]

lyme for 12 years and lcng covid for 3 yrs I use buhners for lyme there is a dr artis who mentioned nicotine gum which I will try butmust be careful with it

[@BrownGuyGaming91]

I've tried hyperbaric oxygen chamber 8 times now within the last month or so along with a couple of sessions of red light therapy. Unfortunately for me it didn't really help, I've had long covid for just over a year now , I only really have three symptoms remaining pretty much, slight fatigue here and there on some days, (not as debilitating anymore as It once was), weird higher body temperature that I still have, and I developed air hunger (breathing problems), just this January. Those are my remaining symptoms, I'm not sure why hyperbaric didn't help me because I know it helps a lot of people with long covid, maybe because I'm already further into my recovery?

[@livingwithmecfs]

it is great you have seen some improvements in your fatigue. Not sure why HBOT didn’t help you, I think the healing journey can be quite individual and it’s a bit of trial and error to find what works for you. With regard to breathing I have a couple of videos by Jackie Baxter who found breathing exercises really helped her Long Covid recovery. She is now a trained breathwork coach. Her is one of her videos kzbin.info/www/bejne/sJbUpJyupLCfbs0

[@marionharding6015]

Most people can’t afford this

[@livingwithmecfs]

yeh it is a shame it is so expensive but I am always hopeful that if some of these expensive treatments prove successful they will eventually be offered on state healthcare 🤞

[@johnCjr4671]

Agreed . 😢

[@johnCjr4671]

@@livingwithmecfs. Yeah Healthcare & Insurances only do things that profit big Pharma unfortunately . 😢

[@orion9k]

I had all this, I cured myself with clean diet avoiding high carbs, sugar and grains, a whole range of supplements, long walks twice per day and slow pace weight lifting (resistance training). Ive been symptom free all this year but having sort of relapse atm, it seems stress makes my immune system break down that the allows these different oppertunity infections to spread in my body.

[@jac1161]

@@livingwithmecfs hahahahahhahah, no they won't! Health is not the priority. Never was, never will be. Research lies. Love, longtime nurse now disabled patient. I did a loan and had a fundraiser from a friend at church that was a HUGE blessing. It took way more than HBOT which helped but didn't last, thats how I knew I had to recalculate.

[@anthrax565]

Omg so you’re ok now? Wow! I’m still struggling. Annie🇦🇺

[@livingwithmecfs]

Sorry to hear you are still struggling. Matthew is fully recovered and off all his medications. Others have recovered using other methods too so don’t give up hope 😊

[@trkeba]

Diprofos It saved my life, indeed. From the one injection I restore my life back and element the fkn long COVID symptoms which was killing me for 14 months.

[@LuckyDad01]

What I am finding out is that what works for one person may not work or partially work for another. Incredibly terrifying

[@livingwithmecfs]

Yes I would definitely agree, there can be a lot of trial and error when it comes to finding what works for you.

[@zlnine8272]

That’s awesome! Was your gut impacted? Do you feel POTS was due to MCAS?

[@livingwithmecfs]

I forwarded your question to Matthew and this was his reply “ Yes my gut was impacted. I often got nauseated and was unable to eat much at one sitting. No idea what caused my POTS.”

[@alee3079]

POTS is due to the SARS-Covid-2 virus. I got it severely in January after an infection in December. I think I must’ve had a milder case of it in general, but this was very different. I was virtually bedbound as a result of it. It is slowly improving but a recent infection has made symptoms worse again.

[@LDMTX6]

I had Covid 5 weeks ago and I can't seem to get over it. I'll occasionally have a good day but then I feel like total crap the next day. It's so depressing. I can barely walk a mile. My doctor has no advice.

[@livingwithmecfs]

I’m sorry you are struggling. The Turnto app has lots of free info that could be helpful. Also if you are in the US then check out RTHM clinic, they specialise in supporting people with Long Covid and ME/CFS

[@jsquire5pa]

5 weeks 😂.. imagine 5 years

[@Taran-d.B.23]

With how much ATA you did HBOT Treatment?

[@livingwithmecfs]

The Aviv clinic website says their chambers go up to 2.0ATA

[@AlbaLynxQueen]

HBOT didn't help me one bit. I did ~ 30 sessions. If anything, I crashed for a few months. No improvements.

[@livingwithmecfs]

Sorry to hear HBOT didn’t help you 😔

[@Mungeren]

What about gram-negative bacteria that develop from oxygen? It may backfire on you. Keep us updated.

[@jac1161]

it also doesn't help if once you are done, you go back to a moldy work or home and it was never long covid to begin with .See Dr Bruce Patterson for details.

[@sci2021]

Probably LDN/LDA in advance of HBOT was key. Do you still take LDN/LDA? 2-3 months symptom free is great. However, relapses might still happen due to further infections/overexertion. Thanks for sharing.

[@dkhasel]

It would be part of the whole story if you would disclose whether you received the covid vaccine and any boosters after you hade early onset covid. Please be transparent.

[@anthonyguzman2081]

Ofcourse he did, that's the real data. They hide this from the public and squawk "safe n effective" lol

[@robinr5669]

😮

[@alee3079]

He got sick in February, 2020. There were no vaccines for another year or more. Wtf is wrong with ppl that they don’t understand that PASC/LC existed before the SARS vaccine. I got ill in March 2020 and was unwell from that point forward. I’ve had multiple Covid infections. I’ve never been vaccinated for Covid or anything else during that time period. Vaccine injuries happen but it is less likely compared to what the virus itself can cause. Stop pushing this type of narrative. It doesn’t help.

[@opalagafia]

Can you find out if he is still having to take LDN and LDA? Thanks for posting this!

[@livingwithmecfs]

I asked Matthew and he said after the HBOT he phased out all his medications and now isn’t taking anything at all.

[@whisperingdeath308]

What's the name of the clinic?

[@livingwithmecfs]

He went to two clinics, Bateman Horne and Aviv

[@ballardperformancemachine]

I did hbot. It worked for me. I have put around 150 hr on my machine. I was able to buy a soft chamber for 17k. I was expensive but it was worth every penny.

[@livingwithmecfs]

So glad it worked for you. How long did it take for you to start feeling the effects? If you stop doing it do your symptoms come back? After hearing a few HBOT success stories I was looking into getting one but wasn’t sure the at home soft chamber ones would be as effective. The home ones I have found only go up to 1.5ATA but clinical trials with HBOT all used 2.0 ATA or higher. Helpful to know that soft shell worked for you.

[@ballardperformancemachine]

@livingwithmecfs Mine goes up to 1.4 ata. My brain fog started lifting after 5 sessions. I could stay awake after most of the day after 10 sessions. That is when I decided to buy a soft hbot chamber. Before this, I had gone for 2 months with me/cfs long covid and not being able to move around or stay awake for over 3 hrs a day. It still took at least 4 months until I could function at work, and that was still limited. I am back at full swing now, but it has taken around 18 months. To get here. When I started with hbot, I would do it 5 days a week. I have made it up to 4 weeks without a secession. It all depends on how long I work or if I get a cold. Every Dr I have talked to since i got sick said it saved my life. I did take other supplements that I believed helped with this process.

[@livingwithmecfs]

@@ballardperformancemachine that is awesome! Thanks for sharing how it helped you at different stages, it’s really helpful to know 😊

[@jac1161]

I got the summit to sea for 6k....thank God!...because I needed 10k for EBOO, methylene blue, sauna etc. Long 5 year haul.

[@livingwithmecfs]

@@jac1161 did all these things help? Have you had improvements?

[@brendabrenner2891]

Am lc 3years, wcormobidities, celiac, mold, lyme..am claustrophobic, so o2 chamber is out..winder if anyone has used redoght theraoy🙏♥️

[@livingwithmecfs]

I have heard good things about red light therapy for supporting the mitochondria. I think some spas or gyms offer it so maybe you could try it and see how you respond before buying a light of your own

[@brendabrenner2891]

..tu ❤️​@@livingwithmecfs

[@renaissance5300]

3 yrs for me with Lyme disease

[@monicali2608]

Try Methylene blue.

[@livingwithmecfs]

Thanks for the tip. Have you tried it? Did it help?

[@monicali2608]

@@livingwithmecfs Did use MB and it gave me more energie. More focused and not tired so fast. Wrinkles arround my mouth are less. Two pounds more with more exercise.

[@livingwithmecfs]

@@monicali2608 that is great!

[@alantrost6704]

​@livingwithmecfs it helps me a lot, I can keep my oxygen from around 90 to avarege 95 % !

[@livingwithmecfs]

@@alantrost6704 that is great! Keeping up your oxygen levels has got to be a good thing!

[@Seagoatsunday]

The sh/t thing is ...people keep this virus going and for some (most) we will find out, is that it is horrifically destructive to our bodies and minds!

[@trkeba]

Diprofos It saved my life, indeed. From only one injection I restore my life back and element the fkn long COVID symptoms which was killing me for 14 months.

[@livingwithmecfs]

That is amazing! Did you find the effects of the injection wore off after a while and you had to get more?

[@trkeba]

@@livingwithmecfs I only take it again after 3 weeks from the stupid vaccine. Because I felt that the vaccine led me to the same bad symptoms again.

[@trkeba]

@@livingwithmecfs I got another one after 14 days to the vaccine.... because vaccine made me suffer from the same symptoms again.

[@livingwithmecfs]

@@trkeba it is good you have found something that fixes the side effects of the vaccine

[@LillyLbs]

It s a shame, I can t afford, it s very expensive , and I m not in the u.s

[@stephanieotero9713]

This is to bad though that it’s not covered by insurance and everyday people who can’t afford this who suffer with long covid are just doomed! I have had long covid since 02/22

[@livingwithmecfs]

I know! It sucks some of the effective treatments are so expensive. I’m hoping that over time that if they are seen to be helping lots of people they are made available through state healthcare 🤞

[@pamponsart]

P.S. I'm also doing Brain training/rewiring.

[@kitsky2]

4 fucking years... did you try B1 ?

[@anthonyguzman2081]

Bruh, you got the EUA shot did u not?

[@rebekahyglesias7826]

the pharmaceuticals probably did more harm than good.....

[@TonySayers]

It’s not ‘long Covid’ it’s the reaction of the jabs! 😂🤡

[@jimshu245]

Some of us have LC and never had a jab!

[@ebbabuddy]

Some people have had long covid since before the shots were even available. Sure there is such a thing as vaccine injuries but you are very lucky to just be spouting your mouth without being impacted. Ignorance is bliss. Karma is all I have to say.

[@TonySayers]

@@ebbabuddy lol 🤡

[@Primordialwolf]

@@jimshu245 shedding is a issue

[@Primordialwolf]

@@ebbabuddyvaxx injuries has been around longer than Covid soooooooooo….. 😂 who is talking smack now?

[@slyguy8943]

"In order to get my health better, I had to take out a massive loan that put me into crippling debt for life." Lol.. what's the point of getting your life back to just lose it again?

[@axil03]

What is ME/CFS and what is POTS?

[@winniecash1654]

Look it up. It's common especially after covid.

[@livingwithmecfs]

ME stands for myalgic encephalomyelitis CFS stands for Chronic Fatigue Syndrome This link explains more www.actionforme.org.uk/get-information/what-is-me/what-does-me-feel-like/ POTS stands for postural orthostatic tachycardia syndrome. You can find more info here www.potsuk.org/

[@tommc5728]

Long covid give over ! It’s the jabs

[@sushi_glory_hole]

Plenty of unvaccinated people with long covid. Stop with the idiotic misinformation.

[@jac1161]

STOP......there is enough gaslighting. I am a nurse over 25 years. I never took the flu shot, didn't take the coviads shot. I got sick with very severe covid in march 2020 when the damn mask went on (had to at work), and it turned out that covid triggered the mold toxicity, hiding lyme, arsenic and other chemtrail related things along with 10g towers. Dr Bruce Patterson does labs to show you whether it's truly longhaul or lyme, mold, etc. Not every one is long covid, but they want to be. The shots ('job' is a too gentle a word) are spikes and poisonous. The infection itself, also it. Please don't minimize the true suffering of those of us who didn't get the SHOT. Okay. Be humble and empathetic. Thanks. Be careful because.......sometimes arrogant attitude are corrected by our good God.

[@jac1161]

ps....what is "long covid give over !".. are you okay?