How Dangerous Are Carcinogens in Vegetables? | What the Fitness | Biolayne

[@shawnnevalainen1337]

When you go from no fiber and no plant foods to suddenly eating three pounds of broccoli because you're on a health kick, then that broccoli is going to give you gas. This is true. A lot of people also get explosive diarrhea during their first month of switching to carnivore. That's also true. It's funny that these are interpreted in such different ways.

[@petemiller2651]

because they probably justify diarrhea as an oxalate detox😂

[@dragonofhatefulretribution9041]

@@petemiller2651You don’t have diarrhoea on the carnivore diet. And you only experience any form of gas or inconsistency in stool composition during transitioning diet due to shifts in gut microbiome, which doesn’t last the duration of a whole month.

[@tinyjungle_]

​@@dragonofhatefulretribution9041citation?

[@jerppazz4525]

A lot of people absolutely have diarrhea when switching to carnivore, especially if switching from a healthy "normal" diet. Not even mentioning the harsh withdrawal symptoms some have from cutting out carbs initially. Joe regan is the easiest celebrity example if you need some anecdotal reference.

[@jerppazz4525]

@dragonofhatefulretribution9041

[@mikebutcher6345]

It’s so easy for the average person to see that video and believe every word he says because of his conviction . Thank god we have people like you around layne

[@CathyBojould]

Yep. Most people have no critical thinking skills. They see an attractive person who speaks confidently and they just believe everything that comes out of their mouth.

[@dragonofhatefulretribution9041]

⁠@@CathyBojouldBut then you believe the unattractive guy who spouts lies while referencing so-called studies that aren’t controlled. So who are you speaking about when you say people don’t have critical thinking skills?

[@Metarig]

​@@CathyBojould When people see a smart and educated person who has always avoided vegetables, they often think there must be a legitimate reason for it, and what that person says about it is likely not nonsense.

[@tinyjungle_]

Don't forget about the eerie suspenseful music

[@notyourdamnbusiness8795]

not really.....if eating veggies gives you cancer.....im kinda sure this shit would have made the news quite some time ago.

[@Fake_ass_Pepe_Silvia]

this video was funded by Big Eggplant.

[@kieranwhittemore1010]

How do eggs relate to vegetables?

[@sungod9797]

Big 🍆 energy lol

[@AdamScottfit]

😂

[@doddsalfa]

And the Brussels sprouts cartel 😊

[@karlhungus5554]

@@kieranwhittemore1010 Eggplants are how eggs are grown...DUH! 🙂

[@_negentropy_]

I’ve stopped listening to everyone. No more podcasts. No more social media. If anyone parrots back to me reel/meme-depth wellness info, I keep eye contact while slowly squishing in my earplugs. These idiots are peddling anxiety. Nothing more.

[@FlyingDo]

S-M-A-T!

[@damienwilliams7566]

Then why are you here?

[@_negentropy_]

@@damienwilliams7566sorry, can’t hear you.

[@tugyorktown7899]

@@damienwilliams7566 LOL.... I was gonna ask the same thing, no more social media huh, but KZbins ok ? LOL

[@YeahTheDuckweed]

my brother in christ! you just said all that in the form of a COMMENT

[@karlhungus5554]

This is simultaneously entertaining and exhausting. It never ends. But, on the bright side, you always have fodder for new content.

[@kevanriley2998]

Because we all know that if you walk through the cancer ward, there's a bunch of frustrated doctors like "Dammit, if only they had stopped eating veggies! WHY GOD WHY!!"

[@someguyik]

I stopped eating vegetables after I was diagnosed with a rare form of Aids Cancer..which is basically when AIDS has cancer. Needless to say, I was cured immediately.

[@KirtanStudiosOfficial]

​@someguyik 😂

[@classicgameplay10]

@@someguyik cured the aids or the cancer?

[@bernhardjordan9200]

That's why the cancer ward is full

[@dlgymnastics2022]

😂​@@bernhardjordan9200

[@Gruso57]

This is my favorite vid so far. Your breakdown of the illogical zealot is so spot on.

[@Ryan-wx1bi]

This is why i switched to the air and photosynthesis diet. Then i got skin cancer. You can't win

[@dragonofhatefulretribution9041]

Or you could just go carnivore and become immune to sunburn like the rest of us. You genuinely *can* win when you do things correctly.

[@dragonofhatefulretribution9041]

@@ME-qc1xc You can verify this very easily even here on CommieTube.

[@madhisathya2766]

​@@dragonofhatefulretribution9041 Immune to sunburn ? Maybe. But definitely immune to intelligence and logic.

[@dragonofhatefulretribution9041]

@@madhisathya2766 Wisdom and logic are what I’m comprised of. “For the protection and nourishment of the body, no other food item is better than meat.” - Charaka Samhita (3000 year-old Sanskrit Hindu medical text on Ayurveda) “The meat of freshly-killed animals is like Amrit (the ultimate life-giving fluid that sustains the divine).” - Bhava Prakash

[@dragonofhatefulretribution9041]

@@Polar_Bear_Pete It stands to reason that removing the factors that cause skin damage and vulnerability to the sun would likely also decrease the chances or associated risks of skin cancer. Otto Warburg discovered the energy source which cancer feeds off in the 1920s. All we need do is apply that to diet and apply some common sense conclusions for us to jump to.

[@JimmTheSwede]

NEVER listen to anything Layne says. He's sponsored by big truths and the corrupt industry of simple and correct facts. CONSPIRACY! 😵 On a serious note: I love You Layne. Been following You for over 10 years but never really comment or anything but... The world's in geeat need of more Laynes. ❤

[@madhisathya2766]

Haha almost got me in that first line.

[@Sinasi08]

Nutrition advices on internet are going nuts.... !!! It's getting worse and worse... Thank you Layne

[@dragonofhatefulretribution9041]

It’s a good job you thanked Layne for his addition to this phenomenon you witness occurring…

[@alecrechtiene558]

Man, you pointed out that formula on the Dr. Mike podcast, and it becomes even more clear. It was crazy how many myths about food were so mainstream that made it really hard for me to stick to a healthy lifestyle without guilt or feeling restricted. I was skeptical about your artificial sweetener claims at first until I looked into it more and saw pretty much every researcher shares the artificial sweetener claim. How did artificial sweeteners become so demonized?

[@marcdaniels9079]

The food world has progressed through: Preferences, enthusiasm, bias, crazy, zealots and now they have arrived at actual full blown cults! “a misplaced or excessive admiration for a particular person or thing”

[@Anusdeur]

Your thrive is so contagious on this topic, keep making these vids, they're so important 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

[@VernCrisler]

Yesterday I came across a guy who said soda pop was poison. It's the same fallacy at work. No food is poison, whether meat, vegetables, fruit, or even ultra-processed food or drink. It's HOW MUCH you eat the stuff or drink the stuff that can make for a poor diet.

[@madhisathya2766]

Right on Point. No one ever thinks about the association of quantity and the effects of a food group.

[@georgekromidas5097]

The whole “dose makes the poison” is incredibly misunderstood. It’s only completely true for some poisons, and for other poisons it’s more like the dose decides if there’s a significant effect. For oxygen the dose does make the poison, there’s some optimal amount for humans and far above/below that you die. Cyanide however does not do this since even a molecule if it gets to your mitochondria is basically. Now of course one molecule isn’t significantly harmful, but it’s still causing a toxic effect and therefore a poison.

[@VernCrisler]

@@georgekromidas5097 Even water can be toxic if you drink too much of it at one time.

[@georgekromidas5097]

@@VernCrisler True, water does follow dose makes the poison by all definitions.

[@classicgameplay10]

Why drink soda instead of some orange juice?

[@GorillaGrodd]

Finally. I've been waiting ages for Layne to discover this guy. I even searched both of their names ages ago to see if there had been any debate or interaction between them.

[@georgemcdougall7260]

Need Ken d berry de bunked aswell he’s just as bad

[@GorillaGrodd]

@@georgemcdougall7260 The crazy Australian guy that dresses up like he's Kane from the old Command and Conquer games is my favorite of the carnivore KZbinrs.

[@georgemcdougall7260]

@@GorillaGrodd hahaha!

[@classicgameplay10]

@@GorillaGrodd whats his name ?

[@GorillaGrodd]

@@classicgameplay10 It took me a bit to find him. His name is Bart Kay, I think Layne has covered him before. I almost feel like the guy is playing a character from what I've seen of him.

[@faustprivate]

Could you please do a video to address Peter Attia's latest video on high saturated fat diets? Crazy misinterpretation of the study... Drop rate, trans fat, etc.

[@oguzisk9204]

Hi Dr.Layne would be nice to see a video about colorectal cancer rates under 50 year olds doubling. Really curious about it.

[@toms8879]

chaffee made a reply video. he said you did not read your own study, Layne Norton

[@gapat8213]

Lame Norton of course doesn't need to respond. His sheep will listen to him. I am not carnivore but Dr Chaffeee absolutely destroyed Lame.

[@toms8879]

@@gapat8213 no,i don't think so. chaffee misrepresents most of the studies he sights. if he just says Layne did not and shows no proof. i go with Layne.

[@gapat8213]

@@toms8879 true. Layne presented 1-3 in thie video. Chaffee carefully presented 20-30.

[@sittingfrogleg]

@@gapat8213Chaffee is a snake oil salesman with the intelligence of a rock, completely dishonest, mostly relies on anecdotes and blatantly misrepresenting science. Follow his health advice at your own personal risk.

[@kbkesq]

Great video is always. Plus these meat. Products are from animals that eat nothing but vegetables so you would expect an accumulation of all these horrific toxins in the meat.

[@Connor6569]

No you wouldn't. These animals have the digestive system to deal with them.

[@dragonofhatefulretribution9041]

Humans have mono-gastric digestive systems. Ruminant herbivores have a complicated rumen which breaks down these toxins in multiple stages in each fermentation chamber before finally reaching the stomach wherein acid is added to the mixture. The trillions of different bacteria within hundreds of thousands of different speciations masterfully break down the phytotoxins into simple inert compounds which they can easily dispose of or even consume themselves. Humans don’t have this ability, because we lack a rumen…Duh.

[@suzy1750]

@@Connor6569 So do human animals.

[@jovotszebb367]

​@@suzy1750yes, our stomach is exactly like a cow's lol

[@RachelRichards]

Oh yes, that's why so many young people are getting colon cancer. All of that fresh cabbage and kale at McDonalds. Another mystery solved.

[@mkeklpse1]

I had fantastic results with carnivore then ketovore. I naturally started adding in a variety foods one by one. I'd say I have a balanced macro profile now and still keeping the weight (fat) off and making gains in the gym. The carbon app has been very helpful throughout this process.

[@DawgGnarly]

You could make a career debunking the carnivore grifters.

[@dragonofhatefulretribution9041]

He could try but I wouldn’t recommend it. He should try and make a name for himself by debating Professor Bart Kay live.

[@kieranstyx3633]

Lol Bart "I'm a senior scientist and say there's no real Nutrition Science " Kay 😂😂😂

[@classicgameplay10]

The guy aint even a professor.

[@739jep]

⁠@@dragonofhatefulretribution9041you mean Bart ‘the first law of thermodynamics only applies to closed systems’ Kay?

[@tinyjungle_]

​@@dragonofhatefulretribution9041culty

[@JackTheRabbitMusic]

I have to say, eliminating vegetation from my diet was the best thing I’ve ever done. I didn’t do it because some people said so on the internet; I spent over 20 years experimenting and figuring out what works and what doesn’t for me. I don’t preach it. It isn’t gospel. It’s just what I do. I don’t miss the veggies.

[@claytonmutchman4527]

Layne, you should cover this guy some more. In just a few minutes, I found an unconscionable amount of quackery from Chaffee.

[@739jep]

All of Chaffees stuff is absolute nonsense. To the point you got to wonder if he’s trolling.

[@claytonmutchman4527]

@@739jep Oh, 100%. This isn't a matter of being "mistaken." This is a matter of grifting/getting attention.

[@dragonofhatefulretribution9041]

Let’s insist that Layne debates Chaffee live on air, or even Professor Bart Kay! That would be amazing.

[@Aquapumpkin]

@@739jep He often recounts a story of when his mom put a bunch of herbs on their roast lamb, and he said that after eating it he literally became suicidal to the point he was actually mentally planning on how he would commit his suicide. (If anyone wants to hear it, he talked about it again somewhere in the recent interview with Georgia Eads)

[@739jep]

@@dragonofhatefulretribution9041 that would be a waste of everyone’s time. There would be an epistemological impasse making meaningful dialogue difficult. That’s 50% of how their grift works. It would be a little like when evolutionary biologists debate creationists.

[@calebgodard4554]

Layne recommends McDonald's fries confirmed /s

[@pegatrisedmice]

that's because he's sponsored by big mac

[@mostlyharmlessrc3920]

This crap has got to be exhausting layne - critiquing these unscientific ass napkins every week! We appreciate you though and please keep it up. You're fighting on the right side of the sanity wars. 👍

[@WorldUHproblumzSTEAKS8ONE]

Unscientific? It is very scientific to say humans are carnivorous mammals and thrive on only meat. It is absolutely proven by anthropological studies. Just because it doesn't sit well with you doesn't mean it ain't true

[@jontancool9181]

@@WorldUHproblumzSTEAKS8ONE why would we be carnivorous mammals? tried looking for any support of that and couldnt find any, feel free to drop any sources-

[@WorldUHproblumzSTEAKS8ONE]

@@jontancool9181 did you really try looking? You sound like Layne has rubbed off on you

[@victorfigueroa8420]

There’s a huge difference between feeling and looking bloated and full

[@howbradknew]

It's good to have a person to point this stuff out - and call it out for the crap it is. Food extremist put out so much false or misleading info that can harm people, physically and mentally.

[@RandomHuTaoSimp]

False? Plant defense chemicals are 100% observable and proven toxic. It's a fact. Whether or not it's toxic to all people in any dose is not understood though. I personally consume fermented foods only when it comes to plants

[@lordfaustmessiah]

Before this video played, i got an ad for turmeric supplements for dogs...

[@2ndpersonality55]

I support and appreciate your work!!!❤❤

[@nemesiswww1]

Greetings and thanks from Egypt

[@livelucky74]

>read the video title >ohhhh boy here we go

[@josho.9530]

Carnivores be like: "I'm afraid of vegetables. Things that grow in trees and the ground give me nightmares."

[@thehealthofash]

Lots of things that grow from "trees and the ground" can hurt or kill you lol... go eat some random mushrooms

[@josho.9530]

@@thehealthofash A car can hit you, walking across the street. Go walk down a random street in the city. Lots of things can kill you, doesn't mean it's going to happen.

[@thehealthofash]

@@josho.9530 Another dumb comment lol. You choose what you eat, you don't choose to get hit by a car, unless you're psychotic. L take my friend...

[@InfiniteQuest86]

Honestly, most people who have stomach issues eating vegetables would have it go away after eating them for a week.

[@tinyjungle_]

The carnivores are the craziest of them all. Meat eggs and dairy are one of the most powerful lobbies. They get insane government subsidies to prop them up and keep costs unsustainably low. Vegetables for human consumption get virtually no subsidies. It's not even close. Don't conflate feed crop subsidies with fruit and vegetable subsidies. That's another game they play. I wonder if one of the most powerful lobbies in the world can afford to fund endless studies and choose which ones to publish that fit their narrative. Just because you fund a study doesn't mean you're obligated to publish the results. Just marinate on that for a minute.

[@tinyjungle_]

For the record, I'm just advocating for equal funding and to publish all study results. This will never happen, but it would paint the clearest picture humanly possible.

[@DrTomMD]

Another great reset to center of science gravity WTF from Dr. Layne.

[@supimsatan]

Your facial expressions are legendary.

[@rowdybme4584]

His claim wasn't it causes cancer. His claim is they are negative towards your health

[@whynot01]

I seriously don't understand how this carnivore people gained so much traction, insane

[@WorldUHproblumzSTEAKS8ONE]

Because the carnivore diet works

[@739jep]

It’s because people are dumb.

[@ladagspa2008]

They're nutritional flat earthers. Mostly American, because America is nuts. Making the whole world unsafe by being given a platform for blatant actively harmful information. Flat earthers at least won't end up killing thousands.

[@alecrechtiene558]

@@WorldUHproblumzSTEAKS8ONE*for some people does not mean everyone

[@WorldUHproblumzSTEAKS8ONE]

@@Polar_Bear_Pete in your opinion however not factually

[@azdhan]

Great Video As far as carnivore, I am going to play Devil’s Advocate. “Any” diet that can transition you off a diet of mainly ultraprocessed highly palitable foods and that you can sustain long term will by much healthier cardiometabolic wise. I have nothing against the carnivore diet except all the BS they fling around as in: all research is flawed so you must only fully trust their anecdotal info, or their failure to acknowledge that high intake of meat in some people can lead to gout which it does, or hunter and gatherer tribes past and even modern like the Hadza Tribe consume only meat. For the record and based on researchers who have first hand observed, documented, and monitored the Hadza’s dietary habits , the Hadza are more like opportunistic omnivores. If anything their diets are heavier in consumption of tubers, vegetables, and honey than meat. Meat is only something they usually have upon a successful hunt, which usually averages a successful kill once every 20 days on average. And in that respect their diet is a closer match to a Mediterranean Diet than hardcore canivore diet. Carnivores need to stop spreading misinformation and made up BS just to get attention and recruit followers

[@brucejensen3081]

Don't think meat causes gout, if you get gout from eating meat it's a symptom of something else.

[@VegetaPrinceOfSaiyans]

The problem is that logic eludes most of these people. In a discussion with someone, they claimed something along the lines of humans not being meant to eat plants and their citation was a talk by Chaffee about how plants have all these things that are bad for us. Chaffee even cited some studies that for some reason did not show up in my searches no matter how i worded the search. Yet the dozens if not hundreds of papers showing improved health outcomes from eating plants just don't matter as much as the small amount of research showing what a chemical does in a cell culture or overdosed rats.

[@VernCrisler]

Yes, humans throughout history have been opportunistic eaters. If they lived by the sea or a lake, they likely at a lot of fish, and so on. Until the last couple of centuries, meat eating was more a luxury than a primary diet.

[@mcfarvo]

God bless you, Layne. Misinformation out there is never-ending.

[@Freedom-2BME]

So what are the amounts of poisons in vegetables eg per weight 100g ?

[@JMFHOriginal]

As a former keto, carnivore etc guy, I love the brutal honesty and clarity !

[@ThingsYoudontwanttohear]

Chaffee reminds me of those people that used a lie detector on plants and concluded that plants have feelings, not that lie detectors belong in the junk.

[@Ryan-wx1bi]

They have found that plants can communicate with each other tho...

[@tinyjungle_]

​@Ryan-wx1bi So can cell phones. Must be sentient. Come on man.

[@Ryan-wx1bi]

@@tinyjungle_ not without human interaction... C'mon man. They have shown one plant to communicate with another that something is attacking it. But sure, keep your head in the sand

[@aldoogie]

Went Carnivore and loving life. Has had the most incredible impact on me.

[@SeanGordon-ym4yf]

The FODMAP app from Monash University uses a traffic-light system to rank foods that have been lab tested for various FODMAPs. This makes a FODMAP elimination diet pretty simple. The database of foods is massive. If you suffer from GI issues after eating fruit and/or veggies, cutting FODMAPs is definitely worth a try.

[@seitanbeatsyourmeat666]

The stacking effect though… no one takes that into account, so how do you know how to create a meal?

[@AliceFarmer-bg4dw]

Please explain the Randle Cycle!

[@mikafoxx2717]

You mean debunk it? We've known about something called glucagon since Randle did his studies, which he did not know of at the time. It's why that apparently lockout happened, when in reality it's more of a dinner of counter regulatory hormones.

[@Jonathanmissinglink]

From the abstract: "The intake of cruciferous vegetables is generally safe and beneficial in humans. However the quality of the majority (68%) of evidence was low." I noticed you did not state human randomized control studies this time, either..

[@alex2ghsisj]

Fuck we need more people like Layne calling out bullshite

[@catsrus2890]

Exactly 💯!

[@kingston163]

Or is the bullshit calling out?

[@catsrus2890]

Chaffee is a joke. He's looking sicker and sicker in every video. Meanwhile, he's Botoxing away, yet, talking about plants being toxic. Crazy!😂 Thank you for this video! Exactly, you don't stay on an elimination diet.

[@carver233]

how is he looking 'sicker' ?

[@catsrus2890]

@@carver233 His eyes are looking worse and worse with every Live. Lots of people are commenting on it now not just me, and no amount of Botox is going to help those eyes. He still has the incessant histamine sniffing that he had over a year ago, when I was first watching him, probably from eating a ton of aged meat. Check out his recent video with Steak and Butter Gal on her channel. He looks bloated, Botoxed, with the dark sunken eyes. The man is not well on Carnivore. It's definitely affecting him in a negative way.

[@catsrus2890]

@@carver233Also, check out Chaffee's Live from earlier tonight, 3/5/24. He looks absolutely awful in his face. The man is not well.

[@samdevallance1527]

Why is your voice so high?

[@thepurplebox380]

Why do these people hate broccoli? It's like they never grew out of their 5 year old "veggies are yucky" phase?

[@dashroundaustralia]

Even”non organic broccoli “ Is dry low in residual pesticides , almost trace amounts

[@739jep]

Because people are dumb

[@VernCrisler]

@@dashroundaustralia Better than eating bugs..

[@dashroundaustralia]

@@VernCrisler but we will eat them and we will be happy little grasshoppers

[@WorldUHproblumzSTEAKS8ONE]

Kids instinctually have aversions to veggies...it's like they know more than adults 😮

[@limitisillusion7]

Well I eat a copious amount of veggies. If I die young, study me.

[@hansnielsen6280]

I would like to see a conversation between Layne Norton and Eric Westman about ketogenic diet

[@superluminal54]

Funny and wise! Keep it up Layne!

[@K4R3N]

This broccoli is about to catch hands!

[@IHeartSmegma]

Strong Forrest Gump finish

[@AncientYouth64]

Been waiting for a Chaffee take down! His channel thumbnail picture is at least 15 years ago from what he looks like now

[@dragonofhatefulretribution9041]

That’s a total load of bollox but that’s not surprising based on your own username. Unfortunate that you didn’t get to witness a Chaffee takedown. Maybe we should all suggest a debate between the two men.

[@Justinegallows]

​@@dragonofhatefulretribution9041 Chaffee was destroyed when he debated Dr. Nagra

[@HidingFromFate]

Yes, I felt a little sorry for Chaffee watching that. @egallows

[@AncientYouth64]

@@dragonofhatefulretribution9041 insecure zealot detected, facts don't care about your feelings.....as for usernames 😁😁LOL

[@wickywills]

@@dragonofhatefulretribution9041Maybe we should all judge each other based on our usernames instead of facts. Sound good to you?

[@Trailrunner1978]

I think he should have a serious talk with Scott Abel, the most informed bodybuilder and fitness coach in the world.

[@torstrasburg8289]

Food ideologies, food dictums, food religions of all stripes, especially carnivore and anti-vegetable cults, are anecdote-based nutrition full of cherry-picked “data”. Not that veganism and other modalities are free from this. Thanks to people like Layne (and Gil Carvalho) who serve as bulwark against specious, pseudo-nutritional science claims.

[@WorldUHproblumzSTEAKS8ONE]

Humans are 100% carnivore proven by anthropology....not nutrition science quackery. Anthropology > nutrition science. Carnivore diet isn't about anecdotes...it's 100% legit science. Most people rather believe that it's not science tho such as Layne

[@torstrasburg8289]

@@WorldUHproblumzSTEAKS8ONE Nutritional anthropologists don't agree with your claims. Why not try to listen to what professionals who have spent their lives studying this have to say on the subject instead of doctors, like orthopedists, psychiatrists, and neurosurgeons.

[@WorldUHproblumzSTEAKS8ONE]

@Polar_Bear_Pete why are you assuming that I don't have an interest in these fields. I have a degree in Biology and have lots of interest in anthropology. I'm taking anthropology courses at the moment. Stop with your assumptions. And where did my original comment even go it's like someone deleted it. Nitrogen isotope analysis of the long bone remains of human/near-human ancestors shows at what trophic level they consumed, concluding that more animal based foods were consumed compared to plant material. Plant material was consumed when there was lack of animal nutrition.

[@WorldUHproblumzSTEAKS8ONE]

@torstrasburg8289 these nutrition gurus really know nothing about what humans are actually designed to eat and rely on nonscience epidemiology to "back their claims." Nothing is a true randomized control trial because those types of studies are not ethical in humans. These "gurus" espouse information that make people feel comfy with what they currently eat. Layne is an example of this type of person who thinks he knows but really doesn't and its laughable. Listen to a competent scientist like Professor Bart Kay.

[@WorldUHproblumzSTEAKS8ONE]

@@torstrasburg8289 you're funny, I dont even listen to those people. I listen to competent scientists...and thats not Layne Norton

[@justinw1765]

Well said.

[@Basicx951]

Well Layne i know he is open for debate. Can`t wait :)

[@perijon00]

Sure but being bloated, full and satiated are three different things. Bloated is not satiated and not a good thing

[@MrEagle8697]

Why oh why do plants even bother having even small amounts of the nasty stuff? It's not an accident.

[@739jep]

Why do you think it matters? All food contains things that are poison at higher doses. Having small amounts of the ‘nasty stuff’ could even be part of the benefit.

[@scotchbarrel4429]

Good work Layne 👊😎

[@nomadismileseeker6611]

First! I ate broccoli, chicken, beef, cauliflower, cottage cheese and lost 50 lbs. I gained it back and started specifically eating plant based and guess what? I lost 50 lbs anything in common? Calorie deficit. Boom!💥

[@DrTomMD]

Stop making sense!

[@pabloschlebos]

But some diets make you eat more, others don't.

[@nomadismileseeker6611]

@@pabloschlebos that statement makes no sense

[@yercules]

@@nomadismileseeker6611 it could, a low protein diet will give you less satiety per meal.

[@nomadismileseeker6611]

@@yercules diets don’t make you eat anything. My diet never told me to eat anything.

[@jeffreywp]

Thank you for being a voice of reason in the midst of this propaganda.

[@mattellis4270]

Chaffee has been deteriorating lately, hes looking very bloated and hypothyroid.

[@dman378]

I think it’s TRT

[@pedrobarros2000]

Well done Layne 😊😊😊

[@juanramos.jr.7948]

Their ideology isn't the problem their opportunistic tendencies and ignorance is the problem.

[@honey4clover]

“Some of you guys mistake fullness to some clinical condition”😂 these could be applied to so many overly analyzed situations. Sometimes common sense is all we need. Look around the world and back in time, it’s really not that complicated🥦

[@malcode9155]

I ain't afraid of cancer. I've had broccoli for lunch.

[@HidingFromFate]

You can often determine which channel content providers are probably more in it for the clicks than actually providing useful valid information by virtue of their incendiary video titles; "They're Lying to you!", "The biggest crime in the history of medicine!", etc. Click upon such videos at your own peril. Or at least with an arched eyebrow.

[@jjseibs23]

I’m 100% twinkies and snickers. And Coke Zero. I feel great! Only vegetable I touch is veggie oil in processed food.

[@kimmiekimmxx2814]

Mannn what is the world coming to. 😅

[@SamSnoww]

Layne aka the batman of nutritional science

[@JoelRoseTV]

Reply to chaffee who has a few hit piece videos coming at you and said you didnt read your own study he claimed

[@halvard3755]

You didn’t even read the studies you shared. They don’t say what you think they said Layne. Great job.

[@mattfinley4544]

Paul Saladino said steak is healthier than mini wheat cereal and showed no science to prove it

[@kengreeff]

Onya Layne!

[@yourcommander3412]

Personally, I’m on the feudal diet. 5 beatings a day and some beets if I've been a good serf.

[@richpalmer9886]

This video is great. I think the studies are the most important. He doesn’t show a single randomized controlled study. So what human studies are you referring to?

[@739jep]

The source he provided in the video was a human study. There’s a link for it in the video description.

[@richpalmer9886]

@@739jep you missed the point. The point was the control put in place for the studies. The study he posted is based on research by other articles. Those articles are vague at best without strong defining terms or controls to evaluate. Saying cruciferous veggies have anti caner properties, with what bio-availability? What about prevention by recognizing mitochondria dysfunction? The causes of that, which leads to actual prevention.

[@739jep]

@@richpalmer9886 I didn’t miss a point , you simply made no point. You asked a question - ‘so what human studies are you referring to? ‘ - and I answered it. ‘He doesn’t show a single randomised controlled study’ In this video I’m not sure he claimed he was going to , he specifically said we have ‘human studies’ . We can’t really do randomised control trials for cancer outcomes because 1) it’s unethical and 2) cancer takes too long to appear - that’s why we use other types of studies. The study he provided was an umbrella review of several meta analysis/systemic reviews of several types of studies including epidemiological (human studies) in vitro and animal studies. After consider all these forms of evidence the paper found a vegetables are associated with a reduced risk of all cause mortality , cancer and depression. There was a dose response analysis that revealed per a 100g/d increment was associated with a 10% decrease in risk of all cause mortality. This is the opposite of what you’d expect to see if vegetables caused cancer. This evidence , while not perfect , is a lot stronger than simply identifying carcinogens in vegetables and implying they cause cancer.

[@garycobe3472]

I will say. I gave up veggies for 6 months. Fir some reason my arthritis, bloating and gas almost went completely away. Must just be a coincidence. Veggies are definitely better then what most people stuff down their throats.

[@Pletzmutz]

Big vegetable at it again. Or as I call it: the Cabbage cabbal

[@joe1071]

Pro tip to all humans, if you eat plant foods, don’t overdo it, especially if they are high in fiber. I’m a gung-ho kinda guy, and when someone says eat more fiber, I eat ALL the fiber. Initially, that was a mistake. Had to shelf my gung-ho attitude and stop eating multiple cans of chickpeas per day. They made me feel uncomfortably bloated and gassy. The sheer volume of gas was somewhat entertaining at first, but not sustainable in my marriage. Turns out, each plant has its own fibers, so if you eat normal amounts of lots of different plants, you don’t turn into a giant fart. Go low and slow with the fiber. As your gut makes more of the bacteria to handle that specific fiber, you can then tolerate larger amounts if desired. Or just spread the love to small amounts of lots of different kinds

[@DDHS_Podcast]

Really great Video Dr. Norton! Love it! I guess these kind of people would even favour CRISPRED Vegetabales with no carcinogenic genes in there anymore. Do these people know how many mutations are happening inside our body every day? And still we roam around not being diagnosed immediately with cancer all the time. Our body has these amazing mechanisms and protein complexes helping to fix all these issues. Thanks for doing such a great science communication content! Keep going!

[@kensmith5810]

So what are they saying, food is not good for people? How about growing it in a Laboratory, is that better, is it approved by the government?

[@SM_RD]

Is this another new grifter on the block? Fantastic...

[@AncientYouth64]

He's been around for a while....

[@jpsfreak]

Currently eating vegetables as I watch this.

[@amizan8653]

I appreciate your pushback to all the carnivore idiocy that people are falling for these days. It’s like a cycle that keeps repeating itself. The last time it happened it’s with the Atkins Doctor Who died of a heart attack

[@catsrus2890]

Exactly!

[@фанатКуплинова-ь1е]

Have you tried it yourself? Also Atkins didn't die of a heart attack

[@catsrus2890]

@@фанатКуплинова-ь1е Atkins didn't die of a heart attack, but he died at almost 300 lbs with heart problems. That's a fact.

[@Will_B_Fit]

Charlie Day is that you? 😂 these guys and their pod casts

[@cookinthekitchen]

Oh my gosh, I can't believe this guy

[@cybervoid8442]

Is Layne doing something weird to his audio?

[@robertthompson5501]

Thankyou. Thankyou. Listened to Dr. Chaffee and he makes a compelling argument but sounded weird. "Just the facts Mam. ".Next target Dr. McDougall and starch diet? 🙏🏻👹🏊‍♀️🏋🏻

[@JaykleMusic]

Those people need to be taken off KZbin, well I don't watch those clown, another great video Layne 👏👌👍😁😂😂

[@tristinyaeger9222]

Engagement

[@alex_4trth]

If you have digestive distress when you eat vegetables, and the solution is to stop eating vegetables, then that means that vegetables are inherently bad for your digestive system or else they would be recommended to those with IBS, crohns, UC etc. You won’t say to someone with those conditions to not eat meat because the meat will make it worse would you! Therefore, vegetables are inherently problematic.

[@claudiobarile]

Brillant! 💪💥🙌

[@carlbettencourt8258]

Thanks layne

[@Parker_Miller_M.S.]

I wrote this rather extensive and heavily cited reply to a video by a guy proclaiming carnivore is ideal or best for human, some iteration of that. His reply basically came down to, "thanks for the science, but I feel better on this so I'm going to suggest it" even though I discussed how an elimination diet like carnivore could make someone feel better initially, over the long term it's not ideal for health. I can post that lengthy reply here if anyone wants it, but yeah my take away from this interaction along with many others I've seen is these people just rely on anecdotal experience and cannot seem to fathom the long term consequences of this type of diet based on current evidence.