How do we know what kind of bears were in the Bible ?

What kind of bears lived in ancient Israel? How should we picture the bears that David fought as a shepherd? To understand the stories and symbolism of bears in the Bible, archaeologist Joel Kramer looks at the evidence.
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[@normanberg9940]

Interesting personal note. My grandfather and his 6 brothers were peasant farmers in Romania in the interwar period. They also kept sheep. As youths they would often shepherd them. To protect themselves and their flock from wolves and brown bears they were usually armed with slings and pitchforks as well as torches at night. Even into his 80's the old man was still deadly accurate with a sling. He even carried one with him into Russia during ww2. I noticed on your map you don't depict the range of brown bears extending into Eastern Europe and yet there they are to this very day.

[@alinpetrescu2309]

That was interesting. So our Romanian bears would qualify as what North Americans call “grizzly bears”?

[@thomaslthomas1506]

@@alinpetrescu2309 they are all similar.

[@mike19e91]

Brave men

[@normanberg9940]

@@alinpetrescu2309 smaller though

[@Tawadeb]

Very interesting

[@DamonNomad82]

In the Elisha account, the "boys" would likely have been in their teens, based on the word used. Also, the fact that they were telling Elisha to "go on up" implies that they were threatening his life, as this happened shortly after Elisha's predecessor, Elijah, was caught up to heaven and Bethel was a major center of idol worship. The account mentions that 42 of them were mauled by the bears, which means there were at least that many of them present. God seems to have used the bears to rescue His prophet from a very dangerous situation.

[@DamonNomad82]

@@harveywabbit9541 You're always seeing stars where there aren't any. Did you hit your head a few too many times?

[@missemily3264]

@DamonNomad82 Thank you for that clarification, in the OP.. It helps a lot. I never understood why God & Elisha were so hard on the youths. If they weren't just taunting him about his baldness, but threatening his life, that makes sense. Also, if 42 were mauled, that implies a large crowd of youths, doesn`t it?

[@DamonNomad82]

@@missemily3264 I'm glad I could help! Yes, it does imply a very large crowd. Though the Bible doesn't say the total number of youths who were present, I would guess that there were probably at least a couple of hundred. Once the bears started attacking, the natural reaction for the rest of those present would be to flee as fast as possible. Thus, it is probable that for every youth the bears caught, several more had time to run away, as there were only two bears. It must have taken Elisha a lot of faith and courage to face a hostile crowd that size!

[@TomiAdewoleAdetom]

Hmn...interesting perspective; however, this sounds a bit like Apologetics. The text as written - using a concordance - explicitly states that they were "little children"; the Hebrew word there means small/insignificant. Teens are not little children; after I turned 13, I recall my own father remarking once that I had grown to his height, as an example (I was the same height as most other boys in my class). This is further driven home by the fact that girls become women at about 13/14 years of age (flower of youth, pursuant to 1 Corinthians 7:36). Perhaps if the text stated "children", yours _could_ be a valid point; but it states "little children." As for the "go on up" the text actually states that they were mocking Elisha - not threatening his life. Remember that Elisha had a double portion of Elijah's spirit; he could discern the spirit world and as such his perceptiveness was not bound by space and time. Those little children were either going to be wicked adults (or they had wicked parents - same thing, actually), or they were wicked in their past life and this was the judgment. "The children of sinners are abominable children". As you pointed out, Bethel was a major place of spiritual idolatry so the wicked parents could be the thing that doomed that wicked fruit.

[@user-ly3li3ex8c]

@@harveywabbit9541 God can use astrology for signs, like with the star that the kings recognized to indicate the birth of the messianic king.

[@sublyme2157]

Well dang, that just kicks things up a notch! And no wonder David wasn't intimidated by Goliath. Compared to lions and grizzlies, what's a tall man?

[@anuajihdeYahweh]

For real lol

[@Blessed2XS]

Not "tall man," but tall nephilim (actually, short for an ancient nephilim).

[@marthaj67]

Ever since I first read that story about Elisha, I've wanted to know this information! _Thank you!_ Biblical archaeology is GREAT!

[@cct7558]

Me too.

[@bbjornr]

weird takeaway...i was more concerned about 40 kids being murdered in the name of the lord for just making fun of a guy. this is a good god?

[@mauricematla8379]

Yuo could Have Not been lazy or expact an accurate answer from a dude like this and just look of up... NOT a Grizly

[@user-cs3hi8zp7p]

Amazing to realize Ancient Israel was forested country!! Wild grasslands and timber'd mountains like Montana, Idaho & Oregon...is what I have in my mind & that's pretty awesome! I wonder if they had elk, moose or whitetail deer/muleys!?! Love your channel...wonderful work! God bless you and your ministry🙏🙏🙏

[@toomanymarys7355]

They had HIPPOS.

[@i7Qp4rQ]

@@toomanymarys7355 + lions, behemoths, leviathan and rhinoceros.

[@i7Qp4rQ]

@@harveywabbit9541 behemoth is not a bull, hippo, elephant. They are mutually exclusive, thus debunking each other suspect. The descrption only matches a sizable, chief of animals, with a tail likeness of a cedar (likely cypressus mediterranean). A sauropod. And _still_ astrology does not belong, neither Ptolemaos, that lived after the whole Book was finished. Leviathan is an another type of dinosaur /dragon: a carnivore.

[@i7Qp4rQ]

@@harveywabbit9541 Now the same without adding or taking: "15Behold now behemoth, which I made with thee; he eateth grass as an ox. 16Lo now, his strength is in his loins, and his force is in the navel of his belly. 17He moveth his tail like a cedar: the sinews of his stones are wrapped together. 18His bones are as strong pieces of brass; his bones are like bars of iron. 19He is the chief of the ways of God: he that made him can make his sword to approach unto him. 20Surely the mountains bring him forth food, where all the beasts of the field play. 21He lieth under the shady trees, in the covert of the reed, and fens. 22The shady trees cover him with their shadow; the willows of the brook compass him about. 23Behold, he drinketh up a river, and hasteth not: he trusteth that he can draw up Jordan into his mouth. 24He taketh it with his eyes: his nose pierceth through snares." Ox (bull), elephant or hippo does not match, even less so your millenias younger postulations and the forbidden astrology.

[@plotholedetective4166]

They had Ursus arctus syriacus the Syrian brown bear. It's four and a half feet tall standing on it's back legs and weighs 550 pounds. They did also have Persian fallow deer which have really neat antlers.... But are more white-tail in size.

[@keithholland4322]

"Grizzly" usually refers to a subspecies of North American brown bears, which are believed to have been named for their "grizzled" fur color. The Syrian brown bears that once inhabited Ancient Israel are much smaller, similar in size to North American black bears, and they are usually lighter colored. Being the same species, they should theoretically be able to interbreed with any other type of brown bear, including grizzlies, but they don't due to geographic isolation. They are still incredibly strong for their size and you wouldn't want to get into a fight with a bear of your own weight, no matter what the species!

[@paulbriggs3072]

Even black bears in the wild can weigh over 600 lbs, A few black bears over 750 lbs. One shot in Glidden, Wisconsin in 1963 weighed 680 lbs and stood up 7 ft 10 inches,

[@williamsisk2897]

Joel, I appreciate the work that you are doing. Here in the United States there are a growing number of people that call themselves Christian but their lifestyle doesn't reflect that name. I believe to these people see the Bible as a religious textbook and the name Christian to identify themselves as being a good person. Saul of Tarsus used the old testament to condemn Christians but after conversion used it to proclaim Christ. I pray that our Lord Jesus will use your work in archeology to bring the Bible to life and is more than a religious book.

[@FreightmareFTW]

A great point to bring up when trying to disciple people is hitting them with this question/information. How did the Roman Empire fulfill the role of the beast from the sea in Revelation 13? Revelation 17 confirms that it is Rome, and that Roman Catholiscism is the "mystery Babylon" religion. Have the Nations and governments been conspiring together for the last 3000 years going all the way back to Babylon? Did God appoint angels in places of power to carry out His will? Once you bring up the Roman Empire thing you can stump 95% of people, or atleast the youth. From there you can take advantage and win them over and/or put them on the path to researching the fulfillment of prophecy. It has yet to fail for me. Will I turn someone from their sin probably not, but I just planted a major seed in them that could spread to other people. if you are wondering about the Roman Empire thing there is a video here on youtube called "From Babyl;on To America" That covers this. There is also the RevelationTimelineDecoded website that helps. Of course the first thing that shows up when trying to research this is a Catholic website trying to debunk the claims, but Revelation 17 pretty much confirmed it.

[@kevinreyes5767]

Being Christian has become more of just having a certain opinion than believing it to be true. If one truly believes God is real and righteous than we can’t treat it as just a lifestyle or opinion.

[@biancawildflower9644]

Your channel is sooooo cool!!! Short, beautifully made, intersting and informative content. AND your calm voice makes it so relaxing listening to! A real blessing!!!

[@jamesnoe6099]

This is an awesome new channel. Definitely liking and sharing.

[@lorihuntley836]

Thank you so much for creating Expedition Bible. So fascinating! I can’t get enough!

[@stacyw3250]

I appreciate how you always put forth evidence for what you're saying, from archeology, script etc. Thanks for all your hard work!

[@brianboru62]

I like Joel's presentation very much,keeps it real (pragmatic) ,very interesting whilst maintaining a respectful historical Biblical balance.

[@nurse580]

I feel confident that this channel is extensively researched and authentic. This is appreciated as there’s so many ‘rubbish’ biblical videos on KZbin

[@jorrienmesa9520]

I love your channel, I do want to mention I live in Montana and we still do have Grizzly bears just not a huge plethora.

[@jackiemack8653]

Due to overzealous hunters killing them. Mankind tries to wipe out everything. Gone from California. Gone from Israel. Etc

[@GospelandSpade]

Great video. Really enjoyed it. It just goes to show that since the Old Testament so much has changed even in a small country like Israel.

[@epete7680]

What a blessing your channel is to all! Very much enjoying learning more about the Bible and Israel. Thank you!

[@akabga]

I grew up in the mountains in Southern California, and I can definitely say that there are still brown bears in California!! I used to see them at least once a month, if not once a week, in the summertime! And, those guys get into your trash like nobody’s business! The forest service has to hunt them regularly with bean bags to keep them fearful of people.

[@bradentokoly]

I'm very excited to have found your channel. I'll be sharing it with my entire family. I can't wait to watch all your videos.

[@cheycasters]

I live in NW Montana and will say, they are HUGE! and so are the Black Bears. I live in an 100 year old orchard and the bears know us well!!

[@i7Qp4rQ]

@@harveywabbit9541 Since when have star constellations mauled people...?

[@plotholedetective4166]

Ursus arctus syriacus would have been the indigenous species to the area. They are about 4'5" standing up on their back legs and weigh 500lbs. They are short and chunky..

[@peteryazak866]

Greetings from Helena, MT

[@larryjones-emery807]

Thank you for teaching me more about my favorite book! I never thought about what variety of bears were involved; not in over 60 years of theological education and personal Bible study. I have a doctor's degree. Even so, I still have so much to learn! Thank you for the video. .

[@kamarahjbayard9476]

I just heard about your channel today! I am so excited to learn more! This literally combines all of the things that I love. God and His word, history, archaeology. When God says He will replace the things and shows and channels you’ve given up to follow Jesus, BELIEVE HIM! Glory to God! 🙌🏾🙏🏾

[@Alejandro-xz9ct]

I believe I've shared every single video in this channel 😅 amazing work !!! Love it

[@davidhainline6357]

This is just way cool. Thanks! I love learning new stuff and this was amazing.

[@lynnquinn7244]

Recently found your channel and am enjoying it! Just want to mention that over the decades, I've heard preachers explain that the youths in question in Elisha's story were not necessarily kids, but were more than likely young men, who should have been old enough to know better than to harass and show disrespect to a prophet of God.

[@LifewithBreanna_]

They were children

[@joshuaturner1072]

After this, I've officially seen all of your videos. Looking forward to more! God bless you!

[@rayross997]

Thanks Joel. That was very informative.

[@plotholedetective4166]

The species was Ursus arctus syriacus. The naturally indigenous brown bear to the area known as the Syrian brown bear. It has a pronounced shoulder hump and there is plenty of fossil and bone evidence to back it up. The Syrian brown bear is 550 lbs and stands under five foot tall when on it's back legs. They ate sheep, deer, and small game for protein... Historical accuracy is important 😤

[@alphaomega203]

Yes, it doesn't take much to have researched this.

[@Tawadeb]

Thanks

[@skylarkprowrestler]

Why in greek ?

[@w.m.woodward2833]

I barely knew this before watching! Thanks for the insight and background. 🐻

[@pctaves777]

Incredible information and channel. Please continue to upload this wonderful information.

[@ismaelquintero891]

Loving this channel

[@LAT-qk3vj]

I love this channel and the music it uses in the intro and ending 👍

[@dpsonnenberg4537]

Thank you for the video. I can't wait for the next show.

[@ambassador.to.Christ]

6:15 that is a nice transition. You knew for a fact that the viewer's eyes would be on the hump and it perfectly paralleled with that transition.

[@Rome_22]

Great content 👍🏽. One of my favorite channels.

[@hihi9674]

Such an interesting, unique topic! keep em' coming!

[@mfluder7095]

Absolutely fantastic content here. God bless you and your family Joel.

[@JenniferNjeri-lu3ci]

Ur amazing ur explanation is beyond ur an eye opener I will call you greatest teacher may the good lord keep giving u more knowledge

[@kellyeskaines319]

So informative and enjoyable. Thank you

[@bashieenglish1010]

I camped in the Western US for 5 months and many times I was alerted that grizzlies could be in the area and use caution. The Park Services demand that you store your food in steel boxes that they provide or tie it up in a tree. They do not want campers killed for their food. Black bears are more common but Grizzlies still roam in Idaho, Montana, Washington state and Wyoming. You are also instructed to take bear spray with you (still have mine) when you hike. They also provide instructions on what to do if you see a bear. In Idaho a Park Ranger told me she walked to work every day to the Ranger station, 1/2 mile away until she saw bear scat on her walk. Now she drives the short distance and she is trained in how to handle bears.

[@donnastorey3830]

Really interesting we have Black Bears in Tennessee. We had one a few years ago walking down the road in downtown Chattanooga.

[@tristantimothy1004]

Thats IS impressive! I live in the Alaskan bush w LOTS of Grizzlies & David killing one with his bare hands really glorifies Gods power working THROUGH a human. No wonder Goliath didnt scare David!

[@plotholedetective4166]

They had Syrian brown bears Ursus arctus syriacus which also have the hump but are actually smaller than most black bears... They weigh in at about 550 lbs and stand a whopping 4'5" standing straight up. I've rode motorcycles bigger than that 😂. I believe the bible and agree with at least one statement this guy makes and that's proper historical context is important.

[@markstevens1106]

@@plotholedetective4166 I ride, but what does riding motorcycles have to do with bears? A wild animal that weighs 550 has the blinding sprint speed, sheer quickness and muscle mass to totally destroy any modern human being in short order given the right provocation. The realm of tooth, fang and claw is not ours. The Creator gave it to the beasts and it belongs solely to them. And for good reason. Not to mention Revelation has a thing or two to say about the dangers of wild beasts in the end times.

[@billmcdonald5063]

I had a guy in my devotion class yesterday say that I do not share your belief but thanked me for my time sharing and laughed when I was talking about the Bibl and one's personal relationship with God can bestow miracles. He said it was written by men and their perspective.. I responded the Bible was inspired by God. He said we will eventually have to fight to protect our family. He said David was trained to fight giants. I then talked about God's supernatural protection with Shadrak, Mishak, and Abednigo who were protected by God of the Bible in the fire because of their faith mentioning you cannot fight fire. The Bible mentioned a fourth person in the fire who protected them, an angel or it was Jesus himself. The individual had no words. I thanked him for his input.

[@billmcdonald5063]

Sorry, I put this in the wrong video thread.

[@tristantimothy1004]

@@plotholedetective4166 , Check out " Harleys are only good for ONE Bear hunt" Freikin hilarious! Some guy was flying down a mountainside in Idaho coming around a corner & ran into a HUGE GRIZZLY! Broke its neck! Buckeled his bike in half. HE flew over the bear & only got a few road rash scars. His guardian angel was busy that day! That Griz is BIG, even by Alaska standards. Fills up the entire bed of a 2 ton flatbed. Diff subject. One of my favorite bible stories was about the old bald prophet ( i forget his name) who was being harrassed by the towns punks & the BEARS ( PLURAL) came out of the woods & mauled them all. Moral of the story, DONT mess w Gods anointed! 😁

[@dragonslayer7587]

Fantastic knowledge of Biblical times and all the things I've never thought of!

[@ChristianConservativ]

Very good material. Thank you.

[@essunshine380]

I love your channel, and have now watched all the videos. So I will patiently wait for more interesting and encouraging facts from archeological digs proving the accuracy of our Bible.

[@livingthegoodlifechannel]

I am really enjoying your channel content. I have subscribed.

[@phildicks4721]

I've read that many species of predatory animals like lions, bears ect were decimated by the Romans for use in thevareans for the gladiator games, especially the Gladiator vs beast fights.

[@conniecaban8620]

Thank you for this great information

[@kgn8766]

WOW!! I Love Your Channel! So glad you're here 😃

[@CarlosELemus]

Excellent information. I always wanted to know about the animals in the Bible. Thanks for your work.

[@ibrahimberdkan8902]

Thank you for all the biblical facts you are sharing. Concerning the bear in Israel, Lebanon (my country), and Syria, they appeared again after 60 years of being considered extinct. There are videos documenting this

[@vdoniel]

Thank you for this. I have a comment a little off the bear topic. Regarding the boys mocking Elisha I know they are mocking his baldness but seems to me they are also taunting him to "go up" like Elijah had done.

[@Kyle_Charles]

Your absolutely right 👌

[@Tawadeb]

@@harveywabbit9541 God didnt write that. Dont add to scripture

[@Kailan_Moala]

I love your channel, plz more content.❤

[@TheRicoBellChannel]

This is truly amazing !!!

[@rickwarner516]

Thank you ❤️❤️❤️strong medicine

[@rebeccar1036]

Truly fascinating

[@WadeWeigle]

That’s interesting. I have even more respect for David the shepherd boy as I know how huge grizzlies get. So much has changed….I never thought of the area being forested and lush. Thank you for sharing this.

[@tarjajarvi8079]

It was probably a smaller Syrian brown bear, but it must have been bigger than the small black bears.

[@DietmarSchillinger]

It seems the Syrian brown bear (Ursus arctos syriacus or Ursus arctos arctos) is a relatively small subspecies of brown bear native to the Middle East and the Caucasus mountain range. Hardly a Grizzly and even if it was what is it supposed to proove.

[@jericosha2842]

This is something I've always questioned. This is perfect.

[@writewithapril]

its pretty cool how details like that were important to God to include.

[@wizzardofpaws2420]

A very interesting subject!

[@groundzero6662]

Bibles - Bears - Beets - (D. Schrute) Thank you love the vids.

[@MyNLR]

I never thought of that before about David having to fight a big grizzly bear. You are right it puts a different perspective on the story for sure. Love this channel! I adore it when the Bible is proven true.

[@wallypaige8496]

Good to know. Thank you

[@yinchingleung7766]

thank you. very interesting. shows us how to read bible and know the heart of our Lord in a fine and detail way.

[@bobshwd65]

Very informing. Well done.

[@rodbrown8306]

I believe what you say, actually a very interesting short video,...thanks Joel.

[@ForageGardener]

Actually there was supposed to be A pear on the california flag, but there was a misunderstanding and they put a bear on it. Thats the official story I believe lol

[@akabga]

I grew up in California, and I’ve never heard that story. I’m sorry, but I don’t believe it, at all. Plus, there are still brown bears in California. I knew because I grew up in the mountains in Southern California, and still have family living there.

[@outdoorsforachange]

Very interesting!

[@greghayes7933]

Great insight brother...ty

[@elimarc3891]

great video

[@benny-reebezuidenhout2976]

Wow !! Makes so much sense now .. I saw those mosaics when I was in Isreal !!

[@avigayil45]

I really enjoyed this video. Thanks!

[@treasuresunderfoot7876]

Great breakdown of information

[@rshutterbug47]

Very interesting

[@colinmaddocks9352]

Awesome

[@i7Qp4rQ]

Few notes from this side of the "pond": technically we dont have grizzly "greybears" here. Browns and greys are different subspecies. Afaik greys have noticeable physical maximum size difference as well, like the reported 1000+ kg mass vs. the fattest ones here close to 500kg here, check out "Juuso" -bear in my country. The population map is faulty for brownbears, scandinavia and other north eastern european countries have them too. So those bears in Israel are unlikely to be grizzlies, but brownbears, or possibly some extinct subspecies.

[@sonsofliberty3081]

In western PA, we used to have mountain lions, But we never ever had Coyotes. Now, the government is flooding in Coyotes everywhere. We have 2 or 3 of the 5 largest black bears ever killed in the world. The others are from Siberia. I have no doubt we could have had browns at one time. Some of our black bears are cinnamon or blond I'm color. We've had 3 over 800lbs, the largest around 885. That mountain range goes from Maine to the tip of Georgia. Lots of food.

[@sandywest4299]

tyvm

[@CharitySRose]

So interesting.

[@zin153]

There were bears in North Africa - the Atlas mountains for instance.

[@MTNwanderings]

It can also be something more related to the cave bear, both grizzly and the cave beat are highly aggressive and hunted food as well.

[@franciscogarcia9030]

EXCELLENT COMENT, CONFIRMED WHAT I ALWAYS THOUGHT.

[@janiceblackwell4793]

❤ your channel

[@jmnexms]

Very interesting.

[@bayan6325]

Good to hear fresh historical biblical accounts compared with archeology

[@SandraLuz3]

I keep dreaming of black bears, this helps me get insight into the dreams

[@marschlosser4540]

In American Indian traditions, bear is healer. He's the spirit of the heyoka, the clown (but not a contrary), and family executioner. Laughter is medicine. As far as I know, no woman has had to execute anyone but I've heard of elder women who ordered that done. People of the Bear tend to be wise, solitary and given to deep thought. My father's longhouse was Bear. How he ever got tangled up with Mom, Doghouse (family joke) the Kanonasioni Gili Yu, is beyond me. Dog is Wolf, but as helper and is the oldest of the longhouses. Mom's family was mengwe, outcasts, and had a lot of nasty history. Bad enough that skinwalkers tend to avoid the people of her house. And, I'm tired and blathering, sorry.

[@kellyismyname777]

I had a feeling it was Grizzly. Really enjoying this channels content! Thank you for this channel! ✌🏼👍🏼♥️🙏🏼🥰

[@Bc232klm]

It wasn't, it was an Atlas Bear. They're extinct now thanks to the Romans.

[@nathancullen3888]

@@Bc232klm more likely a Syrian brown bear actually

[@robbiea276]

Makes me think about that beat monument in Wyoming I believe or South Dakota

[@LordRustyMcAlpin]

You are correct.

[@robertmccully2792]

Well written!

[@seanhudson1675]

Thank you and Praise Jesus!!!!!!!!!!

[@jereleino3107]

I like your videos very much and usually i don't have anything about to complain but now i do. My complain is not about your message but where those bears lives. That map you used brown bears lives only in Russia, Canada and Alaska. We have those bears here in Finland too. I know, beacause i'm a hunter and i used to hunt bears allso. Those same bears lives in Sweden and Norway too. Actually brown bears (ursus arctos if we talk about same bear) lives until today even in some parts of Turkey and Saudi-Arabia. So! You are right about the bear, but it still lives in as sout as those mosaics is. Only "a little bit" east from Israel.

[@marko1025]

Thank you for this wonderful perspective I just love how Jesus our king has preserved these objects to show his evidence for his love for us . He wants us to turn to him for he will strengthen us with the Holy Spirit . I love my king Jesus . God has more up his sleeve to gather his flock . Do want to be in that number? I sure do !!!!! 🇦🇺👍🏻

[@nigel900]

Very interesting. 👍🏻

[@summerhellewel]

Joel it's Summer Vesco. Please do one on dinosaurs!!

[@summerhellewel]

@@SGOV86 Not only that but the Leviathan breathed fire! I know Joel personally. He was my pastor here in Utah for 8 years. We have Native American petroglyphs that show man and dinosaur together. Really cool!

[@i7Qp4rQ]

I have been fascinated with them since I was kid. Unfortunately all the (kids') books were secular ones, and I almost bought their stories. Strangely enough I found a book at school that told the Biblical pov. the writer was also a painter (art) so there were a lot of decent artwork, including behemoth and leviathan, as a brachiosaur and tyrannosaur.

[@summerhellewel]

@@i7Qp4rQ That's cool! I've seen pictures where Noah is directing them onto the ark! Now theory is, he would probably have taken babies or young dinosaurs but given the measurements of the ark they would have fit easily. Love it!

[@akabga]

So cool!!!!!!!!

[@z.louisecoombsrambouillet8395]

California definitely had Grizzly bears but there was a deliberate extermination of the Grizzly bears. The last known Grizzlies were on a reservation far up near Eureka in the early 1960's but none since. However, Brown bears are not Grizzly bears and Grizzly bears definitely eat salmon at the salmon runs! There is no such thing as a small weak bear! Brown and Black bears are just as mean as Grizzly bears, just because they don't get to the 10-12 feet tall when standing but 6-10 feet when standing is no joke!

[@akabga]

There were still brown bears in the Southern California mountains when I grew up there in the 90’s. My brother lives there today with his family, and one went through his trash the last time we visited him a few years ago.

[@josephde-zordi7324]

This is interesting and credible, I never knew about the Roman mosaics. The ' hump' is definitely discernible. I think the 'hump' is a muscles attachment from the spinous processes, conferring greater power. Those bears are amazing, a good example of what YHWH thinks of undisciplined children

[@plotholedetective4166]

The hump is how you know it's Ursus arctus syriacus the Syrian brown bear. They are about the size of an American black bear

[@dollrose3085]

@@harveywabbit9541 I rebuke your false comments in the name of Jesus!!

[@Tawadeb]

@@harveywabbit9541 now that is false.

[@toddbowles8201]

I live in Eastern Europe and there are brown bears as far west as Switzerland, mostly in the southern cantons.

[@MercyKnights]

Them bears be crazy strong too and reading how david fought one its amzing God was with him through bears, Lions and Giants. And he with us today facing our own bears, Lions and giants. Blessed be the name of the Lord Jesus Christ 🎉