How to Balance Your Hormones: What Your Doctor Isn’t Telling You About Menopause

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Today, a top menopause doctor is here to give you the science and facts on menopause and hormone replacement therapy that your doctor isn’t telling you.
This episode is a must listen because you’ll learn EXACTLY what to do to feel like yourself again.
Dr. Jen Gunter, MD, is known as the internet’s best Ob/Gyn. She is a double-board certified, fellowship-trained medical doctor and a fierce advocate for women’s health.
She says you deserve science-backed solutions, not fairytales, and she is here to bust through all menopause myths and clear through the misinformation.
You’ll learn:
-The best intervention for menopause symptoms to help you lose weight, sleep better, and stop suffering now.
-Should you or a loved one be on hormone replacement therapy (HRT)?
-Which form of HRT is best?
-Are “bioidentical hormones” better?
After today, you will know how to hack your hormones and get your mojo back.
Bookmark this episode and share it with every single woman in your life, because it’s time to change the paradigm: you do not have to live with symptoms that can be resolved, and you do not have to suffer.
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KZbin Timecodes:
00:00 intro
00:3:47: If you struggle with menopause, you need to hear this.
00:7:04: How long does menopause actually last?
00:8:08: What “normal” menopause changes look like in the body.
00:9:14: There is a positive at the end of menopause - here’s what it is.
00:11:32: 3 non-hormonal interventions that will help with menopause symptoms..
00:13:41: What is hormone replacement therapy and what are the different types?
00:14:47: Is plant-based hormone replacement therapy even a thing?
00:16:12: What you should ask your doctor about your hormones for the next appointment.
00:18:34: Don’t make this ONE menopause mistake.
00:20:22: What you need to know about “compounded” hormones.
00:26:02: How do you even know what is FDA approved and safe to use?
00:28:48: The only 2 hormones you need to know about for longevity & vitality.
00:30:03: Do you want to see Mel’s hormone replacement therapy patch?
00:32:07: What the heck are “pellets” and are they safe to use?
00:38:29: Does HRT increase the risk of breast cancer?
00:42:25: How to know if HRT is a safe option for you?
00:46:12: If you are struggling with menopause, you need to hear this.
00:48:02: What the real reason for brain fog during menopause is.
00:50:30 Don’t use menopause to excuse mediocre men!
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[@drsusan]

I am a board certified gynecologist and menopause practitioner with over 25 years of experience and it's very sad to see this information being given in this way. Certainly the term "bioidentical " has been used as a marketing term, but refers to any type of hormone that is biologically identical to human estrogen, including estradiol, progesterone and testosterone. Certainly some FDA products are bio identical (isomolecular) and are very good -but the idea that compounding pharmacies are not regulated is just blatantly false. She does not understand how compounding pharmacies work -they absolutely do batch testing and third-party testing if they are in the 503B status which is where pellets are made. She is talking about a topic as an authority and has no idea about how compounding pharmacies actually operate . There are also numerous studies and incredibly high levels of science that go into producing compounded hormones- her suggestion that they are made by a guy on the street is not only false but incredibly misleading. Women don't have any testosterone products that are FDA approved and so we are left with no option but to use compounding pharmacies. High level compounding pharmacies have very strict levels of regulation (503b status) and the idea that we don't know what's in those products is absolutely false. The idea that we know exactly what we're getting from an FDA approved product like an estradiol patch is also absolutely false. The absorption is incredibly variable and without ordering blood levels of either, we don't really know what we absorbing. Women wearing an estradiol patch can have a blood level of zero or a level that's way too high because absorption is very variable. Basing the dose on a patient's symptoms misses a lot, and suggests that the only reason we give it is for symptom relief, which is not accurate. We give it for prevention of multiple diseases as well as symptom relief. The American College of OB Gyn supports using testosterone for women for treatment of low sex drive and recognizes that we don't have any FDA approved products so we have no current option but to use compounding pharmacies, which are very good. Pellet therapy is also FDA approved for men in the form of testopel. It has not been approved yet for women, but the only difference is that women get 1/10 of the dose. The idea that you have no idea what you're getting in a pellet or with compounded medication is completely false. These drugs are very highly regulated and have very stringent levels of internal regulation as well as third-party testing. I prescribe FDA approved ismolecular or bio identical estradiol as well as compounded formulations when we don't have an FDA approved option and her suggestion that compounders are all bad is wrong and misinformed. The benefits of estrogen (specifically estradiol) for reducing the risk of cardiovascular disease, neurologic decline, osteoporosis prevention, sexually wellness, sleep, moods....as well as protection for the breast has been well established, and suggesting that estrogen increases the risk of heart disease is completely misinformed, and using very old data from the women's health initiative study, which is now 22 years old and needs to be abandoned as our source of anything to do with wisdom about hormone replacement . The idea of getting the lowest dose for the shortest time and not starting it when you're 10 years Postmenopause has also been found not to be true although the benefit is greatest in the first 10 years it is not contraindicated to start hormones after 10 years- that idea has been studied and shown to be false- while the benefit may be less there are still benefits when we start hormones for many women over 60 and it depends on their particular health situation. I'm glad she admitted that she doesn't know anything about pellets that is the only take away that I would take from this interview. She clearly knows absolutely nothing about pellets and should not be speaking about them. Of course, pellets need to be dosed by somebody who knows what they're doing like me, and we would never get into dangerously high ranges because they should be followed very closely by an expert as should anything.. There are so many things wrong with this interview. I hope women are smart enough to recognize that this woman is speaking as an authority about things (compounding and pellets ) that she knows absolutely nothing about.

[@destinyramsey4]

Thank you for saying this. I am 7 weeks in on my first pellet and just felt like someone ripped the bandaid off my life. This dr made me like the wind was just sucked out of me for the decision I made. I am team Dr Haver 100%. Thank you for putting my mind at ease...

[@follicareelectrolysis5780]

Thank you so much for taking the time to write this 🙏 Dr. Gunter’s dismissiveness towards women in general and lack of up to date information is infuriating to say the least.

[@lindalorenzoni5615]

What a wonderful response thank you. I wish that the commenters could realize that the other menopause specialists on the Internet are saying a lot of the same things that Dr. Gunter is saying. For example, Dr. Mary Haver might be more up-to-date in menopause hormone therapy and when it can be administered, and for how long, but unfortunately, she shares the same opinion that compounding preparations should not be used because they’re not regulated . it goes to show that we judge people by how they deliver their information and not actually what they’re saying. Yes, some of dr Gunters information is outdated for sure, but as it relates to compounding preparations She shares the same thoughts and messaging as all the other so-called menopause specialists on the Internet that people seem to love so much.

[@user-nb7gp9hr1v]

Thank you for writing this. I really appreciate your perspective. She calls compounded hormone therapy a scam. Based on the comments, it's a "scam" that sure seems to work for a lot of people.

[@essence178]

Thank u for writing this…I am seeing a menopause obgyn specialist soon to discuss all my options…😊

[@WorthinessRevolution]

Highly recommend Dr. Mary Claire Haver & Dr. Vonda Wright for expanding this incredibly important conversation around Peri/menopause ❤

[@Michelle-md5kd]

Dr. Mary Clair Haver is a salesperson first, doctor second. It’s sad how much she pushes her supplements plus her advice has been shown to be medically speaking not true. Use your own judgement.

[@jennifermoffitt4635]

@@Michelle-md5kd love her- there is no obligation to buy her supplements.. .though we may need all of them and i buy 10 of them separately. getting ridiculous.

[@Ada-cm4qu]

I didn’t agree with the episode. I’m in compounded hormones and doing great.

[@Ada-cm4qu]

@@Michelle-md5kdshe doesn’t push her supplements. Try watching her

[@jennifermoffitt4635]

Mel had her on a few wks ago.

[@MikeA.Humphries-bx6ic]

This is a great Video. This brings back painful memories which i have been enduring. My relationship of 5 years ended 3 months ago. The love of my life decided to leave me, I really love her so much I can’t stop thinking about her, I’ve tried my very best to get her back in my life, but to no avail, I’m frustrated, I don’t see my life with anyone else. I’ve done my best to get rid of the thoughts of her, but I can’t, I don’t know why I’m saying this here, I really miss her and just can’t stop thinking about her.

[@MikeA.Humphries-bx6ic]

Interesting. Who is this counsellor, and how do I meet the person?

[@MikeA.Humphries-bx6ic]

Thanks a lot. I just did. Impressive.

[@noraalanis6941]

So , why you don’t contact her and let her know about how you feel? In my opinion if you demonstrate with facts, not only with words , may there’s some chance for your relationship

[@wakeupstylellc]

I cannot imagine my life without my husband. I’m sorry that you are going through this. I hope you find peace and if your love is that strong, maybe knowing she is is ok and happy can be a reason for you to concentrate on yourself and learn to be happy again.

[@FameandFortune777]

I appreciate your speaker and the information she provided. I do have to say as a woman who’s in the early stages of menopause, I’ve been getting HRT in the form of pellets for the last year and a half. This treatment is in addition to meeting with my doctor and her doing regular lab work to check my levels. True you may not know the actual amounts of these hormones going in but that’s why it’s critical to do regular lab work. HRT has been a major game changer for me in my menopause journey.

[@heathersellsnyc]

Me too ! I feel better with hrt and biote !

[@marialeon2936]

I absolutely hate being able to tell where an “expert” falls politically without even discussing political topics. Her language is just dripping with it. Would love a follow up episode with Dr. Mary Clair Haver to help answer questions from her first interview.

[@goddessofthezodiac2175]

Boy, that is sure the truth. My stomach turned at 10 minutes and I can’t even continue with this pharma-pushing conversation. “We have a pill for that” 😮

[@karenguy6767]

I felt the same way. Mel usually has better experts. This one fell short on many levels!

[@cjyrkas]

Yeah, I just noticed the “people without ovaries” comment. 🤦🏼‍♀️

[@cjyrkas]

As a WHNP, I can appreciate the studies that go into the FDA approved HRT. However, doesn’t make the compounded ones any less effective. There are some studies done on non FDA approved methods, just not as many. Why? No money in it. I hate the idea that all the agencies encourage use of FDA approved drugs because everyone profits, except the patient. In my practice, approved and compounded are both used. What works for one doesn’t work for another. They are all tools and none of them are “bad” IMO. Why not try pellets, when nothing else seems to work!

[@jg8244]

Agreed. I would love a follow up episode with Dr. Mary Clair Haver.

[@marywuerdeman8774]

Gosh…. I love ya Mel, but this podcast feels punctuated with outdated info…Maybe I’m wrong🤷‍♀️. My bottom line take away is that we still need a lot more conversation around menopause and women’s health!!! Thanks!

[@goddessofthezodiac2175]

Thank youuuu! Plant based protein??? Come on! That’s definitely not doing women’s health any favors. The only health I have found is primal eating 🥩 🥚 🧈 and fruit 🫐 Thanks for speaking up for us with this comment ❤

[@karenguy6767]

Agree!!

[@blendandglow.withlori2456]

This one is NO! I’m not even going to finish it

[@Bugsandpeanuts]

Please bring on Menopause Taylor!!

[@karenguy6767]

If you really want to do your viewers a service, have menopause Taylor on your show. She has the most comprehensive information for women. This speaker was subpar and left me with more questions than answers.

[@jennifermichel3314]

Menopause Taylor is the trailblazer in my opinion on menopause education! She's quirky but oh so informative and detailed. Would love to see her on Mel's show.

[@lindilla]

Same here. Is it the FDA the entity that approved the Covid vaccine? They have approved many products for years, and years later there are a bunch of people with terrible side effects that were never revealed. I can care less about the FDA

[@sesame7551]

@@jennifermichel3314Agree! Dr Taylor is quirky but provides detailed information on everything related to menopause.

[@donnagallant1234]

I agree!!! So many questions and doubts.

[@amyschiavo215]

I disagree with the doc on bioidentical pellets. I was on hrt and it helped a little at first but not near as effective as the pellets. They have been life changing for me. I take testosterone and estrodial pellets and love it. I have my life back. My marriage has improved, I have more energy, libido is back to normal. There is something to be said about the results of a product. FDA approved or not it works way better than the fda approved products in my opinion. To each her own. I think it’s wrong to tell women that only fda approved products are valid.

[@jennifermoffitt4635]

you just don't know exactly what you get and it's not covered by insurance. It is a travesty though that women have to go through hoops to get what you need/want.

[@goddessofthezodiac2175]

I couldn’t agree more! The agencies that she uses to create a standard of quality are some of the biggest offenders within the care of women and women’s health. What a disappointment she is to this conversation.

[@timgiu]

I agree ❤ I was also disappointed with this interview. I wish she had brought others people so we could have different points for this conversation. I ❤️ my compound! It is so popular in Europe and 🇧🇷.

[@dr.laurawilson4608]

Agree with y’all on this 100%…fear porn of compounded hormones.

[@TheAgasaro]

💯 very well said.

[@KGAZ13]

Thank you Mel. But who trust the FDA those day. Not me. 51 years old women here : Exercice, lot of protein and few carbs are my menopause medicine. 😀

[@marvahyland3830]

You’re missing out on the long term benefits of replacing your body’s waning or lack of estradiol & progesterone, such as: preserving bone density, cardiovascular health, blood sugar balance, mental sharpness, etc.

[@user-ld3hu3mo2s]

I agree but bioidentical hormones have made a huge difference for me. Do more research. Talk to a naturopath!

[@marvahyland3830]

@@user-ld3hu3mo2s FDA-approved Estradiol & micronized progesterone ARE bioidentical, EXACTLY what our bodies made before E & P were depleted during perimenopause & post menopause. You’re paying high prices for compounding of hormones that are not necessarily the best or most consistent quality. But it’s up to you. I’m so glad we all have choices!

[@angwatso]

Hi, Mel! I absolutely love you & love listening to all of your show guests. I know this may not be a popular opinion & goes against what Dr. Gunter is saying, but HRT pellets have absolutely been life changing for me when nothing else doctors prescribed helped.

[@jv-ep2tc]

pellets?

[@clw8707]

Same. I felt knocked down from this and never do with her podcasts. Pellets have changed my life! It gave me my life back.

[@jennifermoffitt4635]

you go to an HRT specialist right? Sadly not covered by insurance. Women really are not equal in the medical arena.

[@angwatso]

@@jennifermoffitt4635 yes, I do go to an HRT specialist. It’s unfortunate that it’s not covered by insurance. But, at least I can use my Health Savings Account funds for it.

[@angwatso]

@@clw8707 that is a wonderful way to put it - it gave me my life back, too! Previously, I had a doctor convince me I needed to be on antidepressants which made my symptoms worse. Regulating my hormones proved for me I wasn’t depressed! I have more energy, less brain fog, no mood swings, no night sweats. I sleep through the night. I truly believe all individuals have unique needs & there isn’t a one size fits all. HRT pellets work for me & I won’t be without them!

[@HowdieBowdie007]

My hormone GP who prescribes BHRT (compounding) also requests blood tests to check hormone levels so she can adjust my BHRT to suit, also asks me about any symptoms I might be having and factors all that into the BHRT equation. I would love to hear what Mary Claire Haver has to say on this Dr's view on menopause... I feel she's too 'old school' and not up with the latest... and so does she not recommend HRT for over 60's... yet Dr M C Haver has said she's staying on HRT forever.... so who is right then? I would love to hear Menopause Barbie speak on this subject... Mel I think you would enjoy her 🥰

[@puffchickpam1]

Menopause Barbie says you can stay on it for life

[@leftcoastgal5134]

Dr Haver has a very similar position as Dr Gunter in regard to compounding and testing blood levels of hormones. I’ve read both of these dr’s books on menopause.

[@HowdieBowdie007]

@@leftcoastgal5134 Yes she does in regards to "compounding", I haven't heard about her view on testing blood levels though... I have just placed an order for Dr Haver's book which I can't wait to read. I just didn't really agree with everything this Dr had to say about menopause. I'm using "compounding" and feel great on it, but want to look into what else there is out there. I'm confused as to why Dr's prescribe compounding HRT then if it's not recommended by most.... if it's not tested/regulated how can they dispense medications like this then... That is so confusing to me. I'm early on in my research... so many contradicting information out there... 🙃😊

[@bettyboop1240]

@@HowdieBowdie007 They prescribe it because they profit from it. It is part of their business. Whether the compounding is done at their office or at a private pharmacy they are associated with, they are selling their own product. A regular doctor will give you a script for MRT, you take it to any pharmacy and your insurance will accept it.

[@Allthathingss]

I'm looking for a good dr who will meet me where I am. My current Dr. IS doing nothing & doesn't listen to me!!!

[@KathrynPocker]

Mel you rock! And I know your heart is trying to do what is best for everyone. But this Dr. was in total contridiction to Dr. Haver that you had on before (who was awesome). Makes it hard to know what to believe and question your showrunner that they didn't do their homework before booking this guest to talk about this topic. I think you, suffering from and treating menopause, could write a smarter book than most supposid "experts" on this subject.

[@annaz9655]

She doesn't need to have only guests that she agrees to. It is good to hear different opinions, even if we don't agree with them. This is how we learn and evolve🤗

[@SaraGray-gy2vq]

I was really frustrated listening to this podcast. I must say for the first time ever as I usually love all Mel's podcast. What is frustrating is that I just heard differently a few podcasts before listening to Dr. Mary Claire Harver and thought what a great podcast. I have been using pellet HRT for about 3 years now and it has helped me! All of this is under the guidance of my gynecologist who runs the labs, questions my symptoms and adjusts the dosage accordingly when administering. I do not just go to some homeopathic practitioner. I question this doctor's staying on top of the latest information around HRT, she couldn't even speak to it because she says I don't do that in the office. I take testosterone and estradiol. Estrogen patches have been around for years and do nothing. Very disappointing to get conflicting information!

[@angwatso]

I agree! Her analogy basically saying it’s like getting medical care from someone on the side of the road was very insulting!

[@DMarietheJDnurse]

I got those pellets, and my testosterone went from being undetectable to over 300 in just 3 months. She's correct in the fact that you can't really measure how much your body is absorbing with these pellets.

[@MsNavigation]

Never seen or heard of this guest, but she did not impress me in any way. Does not seem credible no matter how many people follow her or books she has sold. She repeatedly said "I don't know" because its not recommended. Well, if she is a proclaimed expert, she should know all the things that relate to her expertise, especially why something is not recommended. Some of her information is absolutely not true from every source I've read. Don't be gullible. The FDA and VAERS reporting system is enough to not trust.

[@annemeyer-dy9os]

compounded hormones can be accurately measured, FDA approved meds do not mean it is safe. please ask Sara Gottfried MD to speak on this topic. This speaker is seriously biased.. my componded meds do have inserts. I am a medical doctor.and research safety in everything I use or prescribe.to patients.

[@lindalorenzoni5615]

Unfortunately, all the major social media menopause specialists have the same messaging and viewpoint on compounding hormones. I think the issue is Dr. Gunter’s approach is a lot more harsh and direct whereas for example, Mary Haver and Heather Hirsh speak a lot softer. But they’re messaging is all the same. It’s funny that when you read the comments from when Mel had Mary Haver on her podcast, no one bashed Mary Haver for her comments on compounding products yet everyone’s bashing Dr. Gunter for her comments on compounding products lol. Dr. Mary Haver and Heather Hirsh have the exact same viewpoint as Dr. Gunter on compounding products. They say not to use them, they say they’re not regulated and they basically said the same thing that Dr. Gunter said in this video. I think people just don’t like the Way, Dr. Gunter speaks, but essentially she’s saying the same thing that the other specialists are saying. None of them , like Dr. Mary Haver or Heather Hirsch recommend pellets or compounding products so this doctor is no different.

[@Jane441]

Premarin is made from pregnant mares confined to narrow stalls for more than 20 hours a day for 5 months at a stretch all while strapped to cumbersome urine collection devices…nothing short of torture

[@reneespiller7483]

honestly I do not feel like my perimenopause /menopause journey was/is anything like going through puberty. Puberty was shorter and a lot less traumatic for me. Basically I got moody and that was it. With this perimenopause journey it has been quit the list of symptoms and quite scary. The depression and anxiety alone almost put me over the edge. Not once going through puberty or my journey with my menstrual cycle did I feel the extent of these symptoms. Quit frankly I would prefer my cycle back. I find it very misleading to refer to perimenopause or menopause as reverse puberty, it is so much more.

[@susanlisak9018]

Ditto

[@medicineinbalance]

I'm a functional medicine gynecologist. Unfortunately, this doc is giving some incorrect information. It sounds like, from scanning some of the comments below, that many viewers are using good judgement/ discretion in listening. @wendywarnermd

[@staceyhudgens5068]

I’ve been using compounded hormones for 20 years. They are terrific. The FDA approved estrogens didn’t work.

[@yvonnel7777]

Thank you Mel for bringing these Doctors on to help explain these important things women go through! My question is: why doesn’t anyone talk about the actual side effects these patches come with?? Is it really rare to get side effects?? Also a high number of ppl are supposedly allergic to peanuts and they are on the high mold/pesticide list. Why is our only progesterone option (pill) made with peanut oil?? Anyone??

[@lifeishappyplace]

Why we have no science and research on natural stuff and on bioindetical, because Dr like Dr. Gunter are not asking from companies to do such researches. If they don't ask for research, why would companies do it, if dr won't prescribe it. So they will always have excuses that there are not enough studies on on natural stuff and on bioindetical or whatever name they give it. So only one side is pushed by dr.Gunter. So I prefer Dr. Sara Gottfied who is explaining and promoting both.

[@thebeautyschooldropin]

Yep

[@dogwhisper2384]

I heard the urine in Premarin is collected inhumanely. The horses suffer.

[@pamelajames5767]

General good information, however, she doesn't seem to be onboard with hormone replacement to treat the loss of hormones that keep us from falling apart...Dr. Mary Claire Haver and Dr. Felice Gersh. I am 77 and finally getting my estadiol patch. ...I am testing via my cardioligist, my calcification levels...to be extra careful.The 2002 Study was a joke.

[@midlifewellnessnp]

I am interviewing Dr. Gersh on my podcast this weekend and will be released the following week! I can’t wait, she is awesome!🎉

[@user-xs6sq8we5s]

I always resonate to you Mel, were of the same age, with the ADHD issues, with a son who is going to college next year, I really love all your episodes,, God bless you more!

[@joannemartinez8664]

Thank you for having this conversation

[@annatorres2209]

Oh Mel, I love you too and all you do for us. You and your team are the best. ❤❤❤❤

[@GrandFallsNL]

Thanks again, Mel! Much appreciated.

[@MsBuffalopoo]

Thank you for having menopause specialists on. Please consider having Dr Felice Gersh on your show.

[@midlifewellnessnp]

I am interviewing her this Saturday on the Midlife Wellness NP, can’t wait!🎉

[@staceyhudgens5068]

I’m not sure about everything this lady is saying. Political overtones and compounds from pharmacy is safe and has worked well for me

[@midlifewellnessnp]

@@staceyhudgens5068 No, I meant I am having Dr Felice Gersh on rhe podcast! She is a wealth of knowledge when it comes to hormone therapy!

[@helenrachel1520]

Ty Mel for this wonderful guest love you ❤

[@HeatherMulcahey]

The difference between pharma and compounded are the extra preservatives , stabilizers and carriers. If you are sensitive to those extra ingredients it can be a problem over time.

[@deninasmith1110]

Thank you so much for this information.

[@oonaghcleary3645]

This was a very informative podcast she clarified a lot of things for me. I went into an early menopause at age 34 I then started hrt mainly for bone health abd brain health at age 49 but unfortunately I have gained 8kg weight so ive decided to stop taking hrt I lift heavy weights do lots of cardio eat healthy but ever since starting hrt have gained 8kg weight as dr Gunter said every woman will respond differently to hrt. I wish more was spoken about the side effects of taking hrt for some women

[@tatyanagidirimski8059]

Excellent episode. Great explanation of different types of HRT. So refreshing to have a knowledgeable guest who knows her stuff and gives advice that is evidence based.

[@drsusan]

She actually knows nothing about how compounding pharmacies are regulated or how they test their products. Not an expert

[@karoleebrown1858]

Guaranteed she’s getting paid by the pharmaceutical comanies.

[@n5791k]

Eh. I disagree. She's not promoting one specific pharm company. She's just stating fact that compound vs regular pharm are like apples and oranges specifically when it comes to hormones

[@marisoldiaz8260]

Love this thanks much needed

[@monikozi]

I wonder why all the menopause talk revolves around ob-gyn. Shouldn't it be approached by endocrinologists, since it is all about hormones?

[@gigiandgrandad]

I asked my Endo to test my hormones and she said no we will leave that to the OB

[@monikozi]

@@gigiandgrandad That's interesting. My friend asked her OB and they sent her to the Endo. And the Endo requested further investigations (mammogram aso)

[@krishely5955]

I’m on the other side now and I feel a freedom that i haven’t had since before puberty Loving this new me 🙌🙏💜

[@FreeSoul605]

How does it feel?

[@krishely5955]

@@FreeSoul605 Like leaving behind a fogginess of hormonal up & downs of also leaving behind mother/wife guilt and what society and those around me expects of me as a femaIe I am very grateful to work in conservation which requires me to do a lot of ‘bushwalking’ and physical exercise -at 56 my strength and physical fitness is very goodso i think that helps tremendously- confirmed by doctors comments on this pod cast 🙏

[@KathyWedemeyer]

thank you - would love more recommendations for person like myself with High Cardiovascular Risks

[@ritaavellar]

Mel, I love you and your podcast! However, I missed important information about women who can't do hormone therapy due to cancer treatment. I know you can't address all the exceptions but in a world dealing with high levels of cancer in young women and many of them (including me!) entering menopause earlier, would be great to have more information explaining other ways to deal with the menopause symptoms without hormone therapy. ❤ I had breast cancer 2 years ago and entered menopause on the first month of the chemo. It was not only hard to deal with the whole cancer treatment, but "out of the blue"menopause, and with no help, it was even tougher! It took me a lot of research and reading to understand what I could do without hormone therapy and to find doctors who could help, which is very hard.

[@SLO-FloWScorpiO]

Yes- I’m in your boat. Entered menopause the same month diagnosed w breast cancer. Now, post treatment is Tamoxifen for five years. That medication has been hell for me. There must be another way!

[@ritaavellar]

@@SLO-FloWScorpiO Mine was triple-negative, so my early menopause was caused by the chemo, with a possibility of coming back - which I don't think so at this moment. I had some relief with some natural options with tries and errors, but finally symptoms are gone. But again, on a lonely road. I hear you, my friend!

[@SLO-FloWScorpiO]

@@ritaavellar my loving thoughts are with you. May we trust in this lonely road.

[@ritaavellar]

@@SLO-FloWScorpiO 🥰

[@arlenedixon2547]

Great topic

[@kristyfrazier8728]

I am 53 and I was diagnosed with osteoporosis last year. My doctor said I need to do resistance training and I am on hormone replacements; which we are still trying to figure out the best balance.

[@tanyaflynn4908]

What test did your doctor do to figure out you have osteoporosis?

[@MusicLover-ui9sm]

Interview Menopause Taylor

[@MeazaGebregiorgs]

Thank you so much!! 🙏

[@MarySymmsAmazinglyMade]

Well. I think the conversation about the mixed meds vs fda tested was too long. Mainly because you didn’t answer questions like: should I take her the rest of my life, should I take progesterone and estrodial and other, etc. my doctor is great but it would have been good to have more specific conversation on pharma solutions. I will do more research on what I’m taking so you did stimulate me looking into what I’m currently doing. As always Mel. You bring joy and enlightenment to my day. And if no one else has told you today, I love you and want the best for you. ❤

[@jennifermoffitt4635]

i'll be taking them the rest of my life unless i get cancer.

[@tarawright7950]

35 minutes into this podcast and about the only thing I'm getting from it is why not to take compound hormones. Off to seek out another of your podcast.

[@lindalorenzoni5615]

I agree that there’s a place for compounded pharmacies, however, all the main menopause experts on the Internet all have the exact same viewpoint on compounded products. Mary Haver, Heather Hirsch, their delivery is softer than Dr. Gunter, but all of them say we should absolutely not be using compounded products- so it’s interesting that the comments here Are making it seem as though Dr is saying something different about compounded hormones than the other menopause experts lol. All their messaging is exactly the same.

[@TheGlowone1]

Thank you, beautiful ladies.❤

[@lisme271]

Thank you, thank you

[@donnamason6339]

I wish the Mel Robbins podcast was around 10 years ago when I was going through this. I'm approaching 61 and from this and other podcasts its sounds like I'm out of the circle for HRT. I still have occasional hot flashes, sleep distribution, brain fog.... As the mother of 4 daughters, I hope that there continues to be conversation and improvements in the field of women's health for my girls. Thanks Mel

[@marywuerdeman8774]

I don’t think that’s necessarily true! Keep seeking information…that philosophy seems to be changing!!

[@oonaghcleary3645]

Hi you could always try hrt and keep having checks on your heart and mammogram checks yearly as you may see an improvement in your symptoms it's worth a try you can always stop and listen to your own body and brain

[@susanlisak9018]

63 and sleep improved immediately 😴 after 10 years of not much sleep! Try❤

[@debbiebeckwith1292]

I read Dr. Gunter’s book, The Vagina Bible. There were several subjects covered in that book where her advice seemed fishy to me, so I have a hard time trusting her. I do agree that the compounded creams are somewhat imprecise. I use an estradiol patch now (as well as oral progesterone)

[@susanlisak9018]

Same

[@lindanaicker7020]

Thank you Dr and Mel 🙏Very informative and on point... I really appreciate it and I am definitely going to share 👍👍👍Thank you ❤❤

[@alisonlevy2273]

I have heard that Estradiol can protect the heart. So I'm surprised to hear estradiol may put one at a higher risk of heart attack.

[@drsusan]

Estradiol is highly protective for the heart. You are exactly right. This is just completely misinformed.

[@mariaostling3798]

The lives of the horses they use to make premarin is the saddest of lives. She lost all credibility with me when she only mentioned blood clot risk for women.

[@barbarabourke637]

I’m loving Dr Gunter’s thorough explanation on menopause. Coming from Australia’s I’m not sure if women mainly see their GP not so much a gynaecologist. It scares me as I’m going through peri menopause. As I was sweating every night and hadn’t had a period for 3 months I’m 54, I was put on a pill. Then I got a short period and my gp eventually tells me to stop the tablet. I’m off the tablet. Holy shit it’s so frightening. I will rewatch this and write down notes to take to my next appointment ❤❤❤❤❤

[@HowdieBowdie007]

Hi Barbara, if you can have a watch/listen to Mels conversation with Mary Claire Haver on menopause, I found her more educational. I'm an Aussie and would recommend you find a GP who specialises in Womens Health/Menopause as not all GP's know their stuff... I was offered antidepressants 🙄so found a specialist GP through word of mouth... she also diagnosed my Hypothyroidism where my GP had the signs 10 years prior and did nothing... and told me the other day that because I have Hashimotos I will ALWAYS have antibodies and no need to get them tested... which made my blood boil because this is just wrong!!! I'm on BHRT (Bio-identical) which this Dr on podcast does not like using this word hahaha in the form of a troche (pellet) and it has all three hormones in it... This Dr has in fact got me thinking about the whole compounding side of things... and I'm not sure why Dr's (Australian) Dr's would prescribe them (Compounding) if they were not safe and effective. I also have 6 monthly blood tests to check hormones which again this Dr does not recommend... and flatly refuses to do....I would like to hear Dr Mary Claire Haver's point of view on what this Dr has told the listeners.. because I'm not convinced on what she has had to say.

[@stephanie-iy9xg]

Thank you Mel and Dr Gunter! I am a 50 year-old NP, appreciating everything about this!

[@goddessofthezodiac2175]

This is my least favorite guest on Mel’s show. I’m disappointed that this gal is the one who we are assuming is a voice of wisdom. The one thing that she said which I could get behind was exercise. That’s it. We don’t need pharm-driven advice. I’m disappointed that I listened to her today.

[@amenuforyou5782]

I’m glad I’m not the only one who feels this way. Usually I love Mel’s podcast, but this episode definitely missed the mark. I’ve been on BHRT through a compounding pharmacy for 4 years and it’s changed my life! I also get blood draws quarterly so my doctor can keep an eye on my hormone levels and adjust my prescription accordingly. This episode was a big miss, in my opinion.

[@timgiu]

I agree 💯%. She is so closed in mind. And she was my least favorite guest on this podcast. 😢

[@iamlight2972]

Totally agree, there was an obvious push toward pharma which left me frustrated and uncomfortable that it was shared with me as a good podcast that I should share widely, I won't be!

[@HowdieBowdie007]

@@amenuforyou5782 hahaha same here... I'm an Aussie and seeing a specialist GP who prescribes in BHRT (compounding in the form of a Troche which has Biest, Progesterone, Testosterone) - (that word which we're not supposed to use anymore 😆) and get blood tests for hormones every 6mths or sooner if I'm having menopause issues, and it was a lifesaver for me... What I don't understand is why do Dr's then prescribe compounding medications if they're supposed to be bad or not as good as Pharma medications.... 🤷‍♀

[@lindalorenzoni5615]

I agree, unfortunately, all the main menopausal specialists that we see on the Internet, like Mary Haver and Heather Hirsch are all Pharma driven. Every single one of them says not to use pellets and not to use compounding preparations. The difference is , Dr. Gunter has much more aggressive and harsh way of speaking whereas, Mary Haver and Heather Hirsch have a softer way of speaking. It’s interesting. Everyone’s comparing her to Mary Haver when she has the exact same messaging, which is only use FDA approved products and do not use compounded products or pellets. They’re saying the same thing in two different ways.

[@gailgoudie9158]

I think this is great.

[@mojsharhappy]

Thank you sooo much, one of your best shows!

[@louisbethbrown9223]

FDA… this is a trusted association…? Ok. Love you Mel. Good luck to all of you trusting your health to an FDA stamp. 🤓

[@susannarducci3350]

So if we are 60, what should we do? The doctor just spoke to me and told me im too old for HRT. Did not orovide any solutions, especially for my menopausal brain.

[@Katepwe]

It’s not too old. Watch videos by Dr. Mary Claire Haver.

[@joyhancock4041]

Dr Mary Claire Haver is so informative! She just released her new book “The New Menopause”. She says that if you are within 10 years of menopause you can still benefit from getting HRT.

[@Allthathingss]

You can take the EXACT prescribed dosage of Tylenol or Ibuprofen...you can still be harmed! Says so RIGHT on the label 🙄🙄🙄.

[@lisasidlomccorison8178]

I appreciate the information! I'm meeting with my family doc today to talk about HRT (I'm post menopausal). I didn't finish watching your video yet -- will later -- but just watched the part about Premarin -- aka pregnant mare urine. I hope you'll discuss how unethical and cruel Premarin is. The mares are subjected to cruelty in collecting their urine and the babies are often just sent to slaughter. We need to do better for horses and there has to be a better way to get estrogen.

[@marachristensen8523]

I started my menopause at 39, have a hysterectomy at 42, never had any mood swings or hot flushes or any of the symptoms, neither take any hormone therapy but now at 59 I am so emotional, exhausted and every food kind of disagreeing with me, every food I ate even that i chewed pretty good kind of choke me, don’t know if these are late symptoms or if it’s something else

[@SarahMcAshan]

This interview is outstanding! I've shared it with half a dozen friends already. Thanks so much.

[@whatuknow4sure332]

"FDA approved" is a JOKE. This lady is not trustworthy, like most big pharma puppet MDs.

[@jamesmartin9571]

Can you do an episode for different running shoes depending on heel plant, toe plant etc and other variables, I don’t really know the difference between different soles, drops, arch support etc. Also, how might carbon soles effect strain on running muscles

[@topazgraham2643]

Bottom line, you have to do your research and sees what works for your body. For HRT worked for a bit but then stopped. My doctor then put me on a Prozac 10mg. I also eat more 29:44 protein and lift weights three times a week and walk on my lunch time. Can I saw what a big difference? Thank you Jesus!😮❤

[@bridgetfranz3908]

I am wondering how many menopause doctors you will have on that are the “next greatest thing” . I think I’ll do my own research.

[@katepak1]

I tried several different types of HRT 8 or 9 years ago and I had very uncomfortable side effects with all of them. I was having many, MANY perimenopausl symptoms that were inteolerable. So my OBGYN put me on compound medication and I have been on them for about 7 to 8 years now and my symptoms improved dramatatically! She said that I could stay on the compound medication for longer than regular HRT. And honestly, most of my symptoms are either gone or very minimal. I am also at a risk for osteoporosis sinc I got diagnosed with the beginnings of ostepenia. So it was a little concerning to hear this episode about this doctor's opinion of compound medication! But tinsce they are working for me I would probably stay on them for nos since I have no family history of breast cancer or cardiovascular disease!

[@barbarabourke637]

Any chance Dr Gunter could talk about peri menopause? I’m 54 I’m frustrated I’m still in peri menopause at this age!

[@Katepwe]

If you’re period has become erratic you are menopausal but if it’s totally stopped then your post menopausal.

[@donnagallant1234]

I have so many questions! First one is how do I know this doctor isn't just being paid by large pharma companies to promote their products and trash holistic medicine which has been around much longer. I intend to keep using BHRT. This episode did not change my mind at all. It made me curious and suspicious of her motives and credibility. 😮 I plan to discuss all this info with my naturopath and family doctor.

[@lindalorenzoni5615]

All the Internet menopause specialists have the exact same viewpoint. Mary Haver, Heather, Hirsch, and Dr Gunter have the exact same messaging when it comes to compounded hormones. So your question could be asked for every single doctor on the Internet. They all say we should not be using compounded hormones because they’re not regulated, so we need to ask are all of them being paid or funded by Pharma?

[@Nerdemocat]

I'm 47 experiencing crazy menstrual cycles, cramps, hot flashes and I'm just now learning and my gyno seems lost herself...I had always thought get bio identical hormones 😅😅

[@TaniaSladek]

I was hoping to get some information on dealing with the gut weight bloat and gain. Does she have any advice on HRT working for that as well?

[@midlifewellnessnp]

I will be talking to Dr. Gersh about all of this on my upcoming podcast with her, she is a wealth of information!🎉

[@lbriggs1341]

Yep I’m in my 50’s and have no other symptoms except damn brain fog!!! 😨. Just yesterday I had a large tape measure in my hand ready to measure something outside and just needed my phone in case someone called. Spent ages looking for my phone but no luck, ended up telling my daughter to ring it… sure enough it was in the same hand as my tape measure all that time.., Doh!!! 🤣

[@annettewurst4000]

I thought this was a video to learn about menopause and what to expect. I'm 44 and would have loved to learn whats ahead for me, but this video was just one long hormone replacement ad :( I have no plans on taking them so it would have been nice to hear some remedies other then that.

[@susanlisak9018]

See how it goes... you may think differently in 10 or 15 years about hrt

[@MomentumBooksSheri]

Love Dr Jen! Great interview, as always.The Menopause Manifesto is a great book and so empowering! I was disappointed that Mel did not take Dr Gunter's lead and stop using the outdated term HRT. Dr Gunter repeatedly said "menopausal hormone therapy." Words matter.

[@abbycroft0]

Please Mel robins I’m adhd menopause cptsd dyslexic and a high strung waitress who’s struggling everyday I’m scared about my mental health physical life and genx single,thanks for this video.i need bullit points so I can take notes.my mom called sooicide hotline when I told her I feel crazy😞👎I am not btw.she is a narcissist and a gaslighter

[@chantaldewit4998]

How do you know that you are on the correct dosage estrogen patch? I had a partial hysterectomy at age 30, now 50 and been in menopause for a year. I am getting terrible ulcer like acne and are on .25 patch x 2 a week. However, my endocrinologist gave me an estrogen and progesterone combination patch which I thought worked better for me. My GP changed it to Estrogen only because I had a hysterectomy.. what risks are there if taken without having a womb? I already have a herniated lumber disks and back issues and worried about osteoporosis as this is in our family.

[@fitchick4life-dancefitness472]

Love you Mel, but this is the first time that I did not like your podcast and more so your guest. I think the team missed the mark on this one. I can't even finish it and that's never happened with any on your podcasts. Bring Dr. Mary Claire Haver back. I'll leave it at this, the fact that she said you don't need labs to check your hormone levels floored me. I am estrogen dominant, yet I have menopause symptoms as I am in menopause. Without labs, I would have been prescribed estrogen, I needed progesterone, which was super low and is what I needed to help regulate and bring my estrogen levels down. Without the labs, I would have been throwing a dart in the dark and compromising my health.

[@thebeautyschooldropin]

Please have more experts in this area on this show. I think it's great she has a perspective, there are a lot of additional research based approaches, that are less pharma fueled. The assumption that someone doesn't understand that taking outrageous amounts of estrogen because it's bio identical or "natural" is really treating people like they are fools. I'm sure that's not her intent :)

[@coachhilde12]

There is also another thing here, most GP’s are not trained much about hormones or menopause, and so they often dont know enough about the typical symptoms and what helps. Too many women are for example mistakenly given antidepressants. And, how can you know in which form you should have your HRT when you dont do blood works? It’s not like everybody has the same levels and that everybody needs estrogen. Some may actually have estrogen dominance and can benefit from progesterone alone… 🤔

[@christinfriederich]

Instead of getting caught up and feeling offended by whatever therapy we are on that wasn't supported here; I think that the main take away to this is that it is important for women to understand that "bio-idental" "compounded" whatever.....it's the same raw hormone used in FDA products. It's not "safer" or "new"; or 'different' with respect to one that is regulated by FDA; vs another that might not be 'as' regulated per se. I have encountered places that are physically telling people these things;so that they buy their products/subscribe to their monthly "case management fees"; it's a lie telling people these things. I think that is the most upsetting. Taking advantage of others vulnerable states and their wallets. That's NOT fair to women. I will say though, that usually the places doing this type of thing are NOT OBGYN or even endocrinologists. I don't think a 8-12wks course in "hormones" from a functional medicine clinic makes anyone an expert or specialist--especially if they have not had previous training & clinic experience in a similar field of study.

[@lindalorenzoni5615]

Why is no one is bashing Dr, Mary Haver or Heather Hirst for having the exact same opinion on compounding preparations? They said the exact same thing - that we shouldn’t use compounding preparations because they’re not FDA approved and we don’t really know what’s in them or what we’re getting. I personally love my topical progesterone cream, but if you’re going to bash this doctor for having this particular opinion on compounding pharmacies, then you also shouldn’t be agreeing with Dr. Mary Haver or Heather Hirsch because they all have the same opinion on compounding preparations.

[@elianefigueira8616]

This advertisement for sponsors is sucks. Why you don’t make a video just for the sponsors or just put their logo on the side of your video.

[@lindalorenzoni5615]

The most interesting thing about this podcast was reading these comments. Dr. Gunter does have a very aggressive and harsh way of speaking, which does not bode well with many people. And she does have a more traditional way of thinking when it comes to who should be given menopause hormone therapy and for how long which many people view as outdated. However, I don’t understand everyone’s comments on bashing her for her opinion on compounding hormones and pellets. Why is no one bashing Dr. Mary Haver or Heather Hirsch for having the exact same Messaging? Possibly because they speak a lot softer and their delivery is more gentle? All Of the menopause specialists on social media and Internet say the same thing about compounding preparations. They all say ,They’re not FDA approved, we don’t know what you’re getting blah blah blah. So why is everyone bashing Dr. Gunter for saying that but not Dr. Mary Haver? So strange. I’m in early perimenopause and I love my progesterone cream that I apply topically that I get from a compounding pharmacy. But I’m not going to bash Dr. Gunder for having this opinion because all the menopause specialists have this exact same opinion.

[@orsolyabende8101]

I hear the health care system is quite complicated in the US. Not that ours is that great but you cannot get any serious medication without prescription so like hormone therapy with over the counter products is totally a no go. All these go only by doctors visits, exams and prescriptions. And because of this the meds you get are not from the side of the road they really do work. At least theres nothing confusing about this part. 😅😊😊

[@Katepwe]

If you’re talking about Canada, yes this is true.

[@user-kx5ho8rp9g]

While vegan-vegetarian cuisine has improved greatly in look and taste in recent years, we should not forget that the protein yield of some of these meals is rather low. Best options for protein comes from animal based diet also the fats in red meat are excellent for your brain’s heath and metabolic health

[@joannemartinez8664]

We need to have more conversations about menopause

[@LorenasChesed1beads]

My experience after a hysterectomy @ 40 I was given estrogen pills took for 25 years, then I went on the Bio-ti hormone pallet 4 yrs ago. Never had menopause. Will I if I stop Bio-T pellet at age 69?

[@JannBriesacher]

Yes.

[@Slade6366]

Research PMU Industry. The recent push for all this education on menopause lately from "so many" channels feels unnatural. Whenever an issue is pushed from so many places it feels a bit like 'programing' that this time in life is supposed to be hard and of course there is a pill to solve the problem. Maybe we are living way out of balance with nature. There is no lie in nature. I love you Mel but this one I have to speak up on.

[@Slade6366]

@@bathemeinchampagne right!! Our bodies don't make that estrogen that is synthesized so why would our bodies require it to "balance out"? We are living in overdrive and that is our problem. This podcast was all about pharma and scaring anyone away from attempting anything natural. At least she spoke of exercise being a big part of taking care of ourselves.

[@cristinasimionescu395]

Can we help the body producing more hormones? What is the role of tostesteron? Are there any studies on sexuality, edging for a long period of time, that shows an increase of hormones in particular?

[@cathycoppin5682]

Hi can’t take hrt any suggestions. For your skin and hormones ? X

[@JannBriesacher]

Are you sure? Have you read “Estrogen Matters” by Avrum Bluming? He is an oncologist whose wife and daughter had breast cancer.

[@sherrymeurer]

I am 65 and am now experiencing the hip pain and tightness when standing up. I see the commercials for provitalize which addresses this issue but wondering if it's another scam and is the hip issue menopause related. Anyone??

[@Owlshead110]

Yes it is related somehow. Heard another podcast- I think Mel's that mentioned the hip problem.

[@menkedejong9968]

Hi @ sherrimeurer. I am in my 60ies and I am using ASEA .Have a look into that, it might reduce your symptoms as well. I am not stiff or anything exept need to be careful with the bones. It reduces my hotflashes and keeps me nimble.:)

[@gigiandgrandad]

I take estradiol tablets, why is patch better? And take testosterone capsule from compound pharmacy! Why do I have to get it from compound pharmacy?

[@coachhilde12]

Love you Mel, but I am disappointed in this episode, this Dr is so judgmental, rather old school and was given so much airtime to speak negatively about things outside of the pharmacies that pay her. I would have appreciated if it was a more nuanced approach, and with someone more of an expert on hormones, like Dr. Sara Gottfried, or the British Dr.Naomi Potter, or Dr.Mosconi who does research on our brain, hormones and menopause, or the Australian Dr Libby Weaver. They come from different angles, yet all really concerned for the women in perimenopause.

[@frankhildebrand6131]

I found out if you take one B6 100 mg each day, and I promise you it will tamp down your hot flashes. I learned this from my gynecologist, and if I don’t take one every day, my hot flashes are more intense. Good luck. Renée

[@anapaz8839]

what about the post menopause? does the THR improve the libido in women?

[@Katepwe]

Yes, it could

[@butyoulooksohealthy-fibrom920]

No. You need trt for that. Super disappointed she didn’t say anything about testosterone. We have more T than E in our body until meno. It’s more important for bone health than E is. 1:06:01

[@delphinemorizot1402]

Well, Mel, I do not know if this is the kind of HRT this Dr is talking about, but if it based on pregnant horses urine, I can not emphasize enough what a horrendous thing that is. Do you imagine the quantity of urine needed for millions of women ? Can you imagine what it means for the mares ? I do not know if it is true, but I overheard stories about these mares being given little water in order for their urine to be very concentrated. There's been quite a scandal over that, I heard. In any way, mares being made pregnant on purpose, again and again, and in god knows what condition can not mean these poor creatures are having great lives. So it's like meat, getting these hormones into your body, even though transformed after being collected, means your body takes in the suffering, the stress, of the animals, same thing with meat animals. I certainly do not want that. There are great gynecologists in the US like Dr Rosensweet and his son who take care of women with bio-identical hormones, in a professional way, with everything every woman needs for her own individual needs. I am from Europe and we have great doctors like Thierry Hertoghe who are specialized and highly professional, enabling women (and men too) to get the exact treatment they need.

[@crissipatrick]

How can they leave out two of the biggest side effects of menopause which are lack of energy and no libido…maybe that’s what we mean when we say we “Don’t feel like ourselves.” She never addressed those two and the use (or lack there of) with testosterone. (Compounded, of course, because that’s all women can get!)

[@oakstreetherbs]

I could not even finish this episode. Sorry Mel, usually love you and your guests and learn so much but I found this episode to be annoying. The amount of time she used trashing bio identical hormones is crazy. I myself, along with so so so many women I know have a life changing experience on bio identical HRT. My mother-in-law, who is 80, has been on bio identical HRT for the last 35 years and looks and feels younger than 65 year olds that I know. It’s fine to express your opinion but leave it at that, in your opinion….

[@goddessofthezodiac2175]

1000% AGREE 🤩

[@amenuforyou5782]

I completely agree!!

[@timgiu]

I agree 💯%

[@angwatso]

🎤

[@thefragile7393]

She’s talking about compounded stuff vs stuff that’s bio identical and fda approved.