How to break through the Maginot like butter in HOI4

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@edu21100 3 ай бұрын

So basically, you can go through maginot line with just a man with a stick if he has enough modifiers, I can see that

@judykimnguyen8393 3 ай бұрын

Every hoi4 mods in existence

@Pydgin 3 ай бұрын

People think HOI4 is a WW2 game but it's actually a game about stacking modifiers.

@edu21100 3 ай бұрын

@@Pydgin Green good, red bad, that is how I wasted 2000 hours of my life (I'm really proud)

@superossi1849 3 ай бұрын

@@edu21100 Same XD

@glauberglousger956 3 ай бұрын

@@PydginNah, it's about exploiting AI stupidity

@retronimo 3 ай бұрын

More like "Magi-not making it to 1941 with this one"

@Pydgin 3 ай бұрын

France ain't that's for sure!

@FrankDa 3 ай бұрын

Man you are spying on me, i was thinking about how to pass through maginot recently and all of a sudden you make a video about this. Great video by the way!

@Pydgin 3 ай бұрын

I'm sorry you had to find out like this Frank, but I really need the content. I have no new ideas. You'll find the microphone hidden in your 1989 limited edition hard plastic kermit the Frog pirate piggy bank on your night stand. Please forgive me.

@duderino355 3 ай бұрын

What about railway gun? Reduces fort effectiveness by 33% and entrenchment by -20 % and adds Shore bombardment.

@cooldownboi3890 3 ай бұрын

he used one

@duderino355 3 ай бұрын

@@cooldownboi3890 Thx, I didnt notice.

@bidenator9760 3 ай бұрын

Maginot? In your i-Magin-ation!

@s0lsticefr4 3 ай бұрын

You can break through it even in 1936 (although I used planes, the ones Germany starts with). You don't even need to do the Rhineland focus, just rush your fast units (tanks and motorized) to the border once you declare war. This is probably the simplest way to form the EU, use the French fleet to take down the UK just after and do the civil war once you have all the territories required (don't puppet them tho).

@OnlyGrafting 3 ай бұрын

Germany has a general that can get fortress buster pretty quickly. I used to use him, make heavy tanks and focus on simply destroying the fort level in the North with them where the terrain is kinder. You don't need heavy tanks capable of soing pushes, just something that will devastate forts with their attack moeifiers.

@willywonka6487 3 ай бұрын

one of the tiles is a plain tile. you can bust through with heavy tanks like you said with no effort. not really worth it since you can get around maginot so easily but still fun

@hatless_spider 3 ай бұрын

Magi no more

@Pydgin 3 ай бұрын

YESSSS! This is the kind of comment I'm here for! :D

@skyhistory6602 3 ай бұрын

0:30 You miscalculate effect from fort because fort effect us mutilplicative not additive. If if give n is fort level, your method is 15n% such as fort level 5 reduce damage 75% damage reduction but correct formula is damage recived is (85%)^n auch as fort level 5 will take damage only (85%)^5=44.4% so it reduce damamge by 55.6%.

@joh5733 2 ай бұрын

Actualy all modifiers are multiplicativ so math still be mathing in total

@timucintarakc2281 3 ай бұрын

imagine breaking through in MP.

@josephlankester7818 3 ай бұрын

Rangers support company with rough terrain specialist also grant +20% attack in mountains but not hills. If you were to grind a mountaineer trait général in Spain, might just negate the mountain penalty in the south of the Maginot too? But then there’s also a river in the south portion of the Maginot line. Could be wrong I’m no expert when it comes to how modifiers stack in game.

@TheMelnTeam 3 ай бұрын

Mountain penalty is severe, and tanks take additional penalties there on top of it. Plus attacking into them incurs the terrain attrition. These factors combined make it not worth it, though you could probably force the AI off it eventually. Realistically, You'd probably just break the first tile, pin the others, and immediately snake/encircle. That way, targets are out of supply and you get more directions on remaining provinces. What he did here is a proof of concept, making it harder than necessary for demonstration!

@impostorsyndrome1350 3 ай бұрын

Strategic bombers set on bombing the forts lmao

@J7Handle 2 ай бұрын

Only additional attack directions reduce the effective fort level by one, the initial attack direction does not.

@Freedommapping15 3 ай бұрын

I hope yall enjoy hoi4 as much as i would.

@Podzhagitel 3 ай бұрын

dafuk is this supposed to mean

@Adidas_der_schwanger_war 3 ай бұрын

the tile next to it is easier to break because its flat land. Just stack planning bonus for the remaining stats difference

@VunderGuy 3 ай бұрын

Turning the Maginot into the Maginot here no more.

@TheDominionOfElites 3 ай бұрын

Eh, the field marshal frontline is so necessary for normal gameplay, especially in MP, that nobody really considers it an exploit even if it is one. It should just be a core mechanic that you can micro with planning.

@AlexisCuellar-vq4xv 3 ай бұрын

once i broke the maginot with just a lot of train cannons

@cooldownboi3890 3 ай бұрын

fort debuffs cap at -98%, this is why lvl 7 forts feel like level 10 sometimes

@J7Handle 2 ай бұрын

With a single attack direction and no special fort attack modifiers, lvl 7 will match lvl 10. But of course, lvl 10 is better when modifiers come into play.

@TheGrandeCapo 3 ай бұрын

This is both great and ridiculous.

@griff2162 3 ай бұрын

0:14 that doesn't work like that, it's basic math. (100 - 15)% to the power of 10 means you have 20% of attack power

@friendlyF15 2 ай бұрын

1:33 YOU GET SOME WHAT????

@Onion__Duck 3 ай бұрын

If only you could break through this wall you built between us =P

@personalaccount8914 3 ай бұрын

HOI4 is such a broken game. You can end up in a situation where someone has an easier time attacking a tile if there's a fort there than if it wasn't there at all, or situations where an attack is easier with a river than without a river. Every modifier and combat statistic needs to be rewritten from scratch. Bonus stacking is absurdly broken.

@Pydgin 3 ай бұрын

I kinda love how stacking modifiers work. It can be absurd but in a good way. The game really does reward players who take the time to learn the mechanics. That point about forts isn't true, in vanilla or any mod. It's a common misconception that's endlessly repeated but the fort modifier bottoms out at 0%. You're right about rivers, they can go positive. Like up to 57.5% if I recall correctly.

@theCharmoftheSeer 3 ай бұрын

My impression is that attacking in general is too easy and not costly enough. But if they changed that they may have to write better AI so it won't suicide itself against dug in troops.

@Wormopera 3 ай бұрын

Yes you put the effort to stack modifiers and get rewarded for it, that's a good thing

@kirby1225 3 ай бұрын

@@Wormopera Not if the modifiers are way too powerful, like in this case completely negating a fort or having positive modifiers attacking over rivers. That shouldn't happen.