How to Check Wiring & Coils 1972 6 HP Evinrude No Spark Problem Diagnosing Spark Issues

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[@markjohnson4053]

T-Mike has done a great job with all his videos. It has really helped me as I collect and fix up these old pieces of history. Thanks so much and keep them coming.

[@skiphinson8620]

You are THE MAN! You make these jobs look so easy. I’m just an ol dummy that loves running my 1960s and 1970s Johnson and Evinrudes. 1967 20hp Johnson, 1971 25hp Johnson, 1974 6 hp Johnson, 1976 55 hp Johnson, and a “new” 1980 4hp Evinrude... my 6hp needs your touch. It’s a good ol low hour motor but I just can’t seem to get it right. I wish I lived close by and could get it to you for your magic touch. Thanks for your videos I sure enjoy trying to learn from them.

[@theguitarhero226]

Hey Mike your delivery and technique for teaching is exceptional,just a wealth of information,I enjoy your humour when you use the term overload instead of open loop on the meter

[@jamespaton6393]

Hey Mike, After watching this video, I managed to get my 1970 Johnson 9.5hp outboard motor started! you do an awesome job of teaching! Thankyou so much for inspiring and teaching me how! Keep it up man!

[@DarenHarmon]

So grateful I found this channel!

[@Fozz420]

Going down this road right now T Mike. 69 Sportwin top cylinder piston and plug clean, low power, low spark signature on spark tester. Both ohms tests give different readings from plug wire to ground on engine but both have continuity

[@afleetcommand]

Watched two of your video's excellent stuff! Have a cute little 6hp Evinrude twin to rebuild and a 25 e-start ( later model w/ electronic ignition ) that starts, idles, and runs nice....then after a period time seems like it looses spark on one cylinder at low RPMS, but still runs smooth on top.....found your channel and you certainly helped define a direction thru analysis vs.parts swapping :)

[@joemcky1]

Best clearest step by step instruction! Thank you!

[@L2fish]

Love your channel! I just ordered coils and points set for my 1964 28HP Evinrude. I am getting intermittent spark on my bottom cylinder. Cleaned and set the points and new condenser. reading top coil had 4000 - 5 000 ohms. 1000 to 2000 on the bottom. Throwing parts at it now. Damn thing was running good when I stored it 10 yrs ago

[@michaeljsimon]

Go ahead and replace coils points condenser and spark wires - trust me you spark issues will be over.

[@ArtesianDistillers]

Outstanding video. Thank you for sharing your knowledge. It’s very detailed and helpful

[@foxfai1]

Very good instructions. Love the explanation of each steps

[@rockerneck]

Absolutely pro level diagnostics

[@rodneyatkinson2658]

thanks t mike for the info found the problem with the 9,5 johnson 73 model .your videos are great!!!!!!!

[@MrDalegray]

Best boat wiring video on youtube. Thank you so much. Might have to contact you for some info.

[@pisceansailor]

great info.. I rebuilt a 74 6hp Evinrude and something is still amiss. I will take it back from my friend I gave it to and dive in again. I found the rings in Greece and I really replaced all the seals and gaskets. I suspect coils. Thanks again.

[@timpirkl2498]

Nicely done, thanks.

[@cliffkorade1446]

Awesome instructor! Thanks

[@michaeljsimon]

Glad it was helpful!

[@lewishensleyjr9887]

Thank you so much Sir. Your video is very helpful.

[@perrysanders3614]

Best how to video I have watch.

[@bradkoomler7675]

I appreciate the lesson. Thankyou

[@ddd3240]

Well that was interesting. Thanks for posting it. I have that same engine. Runs like a top. Have several older engines and I enjoy your lessons.

[@chrisjohnston4369]

Great explanation. Thank you

[@samtate1260]

Awesome job thanks for your info it helps

[@melanthony2064]

Thank you sir, very good info. Well done

[@FishingDIYMacGyverWithMe]

Great video. I wish I getvaccross ir before started to repair my 25R69D first time

[@eduardoyanez7282]

Muy bueno tu video amigo, Una pregunta las bobinas externas que usan los Johnson y Evinrudes 9.9 y 15 hp del 74 al 76, tienen los mismos valores de resistencia que estas bobinas que estas probando?. Gracias espero aclarar mi duda.

[@inthelandofmilkandhoney457]

Awesome Mike 👍

[@inthenameofmyfather3836]

let the good times roll bro love it !!

[@kingofkracovia]

Great video!

[@awesumenergy]

Hi Mike, I have a 1958 35hp Evinrude Lark ... with no spark! I'll see if I can incorporate some of what I have learned from you, to get 'er fixed up! Thanks

[@DavidWilliams-tj6wu]

Great video

[@fvfgx]

Thanks so much helps alot

[@douglashubbell80]

where did you get the timing tool? and ring for the setting of the coils

[@flench1901]

Wow , In my 61 years I've never seen a points file . Can I send you my motor to fix . Was running fine after setting up for years . Ran for 2 hours trolling at low speed and just quit like it ran out of fuel . Hate to buy a timing and alinement tool just to fix it . Going to pull the fly wheel in the morning and check it out . GREAT video . Thanks for posting .

[@michaeljsimon]

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[@flench1901]

@@michaeljsimon , Thanks T-Mikes , good to know . Just took the fly wheel off and have one of the points burned up so there my problem . Got good compression. My question is , is there anyway to eliminate the points all together ? Did that to an old 8N tractor way back in the day but will have to remember what I did just wondering if I can do that to this 6HP engine? Looking at the part price list and the parts are pretty cheap . Think I will just replace all the electrical and put a fresh , water pump in too while I'm at it . Guess I will need the timing tool too if I can find it . Thank you again for the video's . Been telling my friends about them . I live about a mile from a big flood control lake and have a bunch of boating/fishing friends . Always wrenching on something ,lol .

[@samfusco8158]

Mike thanks for another great video! Where do I get the timing tools you used n this video?. While we don't use " Laissez les bons temps rouler here in Delaware, all I can say is Oui cher!!

[@staceytranmer3121]

Thanks for putting up some stuff on vintage ...I'm a small engine mechanic but I have to admit I'm not so schooled on the older mercury engines .specifically what I think is a 1967 merc 65 hp ..I'm trying to help a buddy out with a spark issue. Only problem is someone that didn't know what they were doing took some wires off the engine and all so attempted to rewire the ignition switch ..do you have access to a wiring diagram or a link .thanks again for your videos

[@miyak6971]

where did you get the spacer and timing tool from?

[@israelalcantar8765]

Are you an master Mr I like your videos and wish you lived in Kansas to help me.with my boat

[@jordandoesmx9862]

I have a similiar problem with mine. I looked in the engine bay and i have the same oily mess in the same place. I think i will get the undertray off tomorrow and investigate. Im sure i have the same issue as it yses loads of diesel

[@user-yb5jp3fz5t]

New to your channel. Just subscribed after watching this excellent video on coil, spark wires, points and timeing. Few questions... The coil ring and timeing bracket you use... Where do I pick those up? Are they specific to each engine? Thanks for the knowledge and help.

[@michaeljsimon]

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[@glennsimon3417]

He is good

[@richardfarb6186]

Your videos are very helpful with my project to get a 1960 5hp Sea King up and running again. It hasn't been running for the last 35 years. I'm having a major problem with pulling my flywheel. Any suggestions?

[@michaeljsimon]

Tighten your flywheel pullet with impact drill and hit top of puller with biggest hammer you have.

[@Samafolife]

hi there, is there a way to test the condensers with a multimeter? I am getting spark on both cylinders, however the top sparkplug is fouling a lot and i am wondering if it's due to a weak spark. I have a15hp sears gamefisher/force/chrysler. Thanks for your help

[@michaeljsimon]

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[@rgboyte]

Wow!

[@zacjohnston657]

My 1969 Evinrude with new spark plugs has no spark and shows 4k oms on both plug wires. I'll pull off the flywheel and try cleaning the points a second time with a file instead of sand paper. Also my coils have two wires on each point instead of one like yours. Any suggestions?

[@FishingDIYMacGyverWithMe]

How to check position of the coils without ring?Thanks a lot

[@markstang1965able]

FANTASTIC VIDEO!! When I check the coil leads I do not get 1.3 ohms , I am getting 0.60 ohms. Is that tolerable or too low? Thank you for your time. Note: I have ordered all new parts , I just wanted to know for learning sake.

[@michaeljsimon]

Thinking that a good reading.

[@Outboard1boats]

Hey, Mike, where do you get the Rings to set the Magneto.

[@michaeljsimon]

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[@MinnVet]

I'm looking to buy a 1972 Alumacraft with a "72" 6HP Johnson. It hasn't been started for 6 years. Any advice on what I should check before starting?

[@michaeljsimon]

Impeller

[@dubbelsue3584]

Hey mike. Just purchased your plug wires, and coil position ring. There are several evidence 6hp for sale in my area for $150. What should I look for when I go look at them for potentially buying?

[@michaeljsimon]

Compression and gear shifting.

[@mikebender6308]

I'm only getting 0.9 ohms on both coils on the primary windings would my plugs still spark.

[@michaeljsimon]

Yes

[@gjpgonzo2189]

When testing the coils where you found a high reading, and you solved it by cleaning the coils, what did you have you ohmmeter connected too?

[@kentyler966]

What do you do if you don’t have the location ring and timing pointer?

[@michaeljsimon]

There are other ways - will make a video.

[@d.l.huntministries8131]

I want to get a timing tool, please reply to me where I would be able to get one ? thanks for your well explained video's.

[@michaeljsimon]

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[@arcticcatkickass]

I have no reading. Only from my plug wires to ground. Guess i need both coils. I have the same system as you. With the 2 coils and points.

[@ArtesianDistillers]

Just purchased new OMC coils for 57 Elgin 7.5hp. Coils are giving continuity buzz and 1.5 ohms. But zero reading from any lead to the screw where the wire goes. Assuming bad new coils?

[@michaeljsimon]

Yes. Bad Secondary Winding.

[@michaeljsimon]

Check old coils for readings

[@sd410MM]

What would cause the magneto backing plate to lock up with the flywheel? Ran perfect for 40 years, one pull starting. Thought the engine seized but its the flywheel locking too the backing plate. Stumped....

[@michaeljsimon]

Check the woodruff key on the crankshaft that the flywheel and cam fit on. Might be sheared.

[@sd410MM]

@@michaeljsimon breaker cam had cracked all the way through. What would cause the cam to fracture in narrow section? Looks as though the flywheel is running against aluminum on the block near seal around the breaker cam. Is it common for cam to break on old Johnsons?

[@georgiaboy6426]

@@sd410MM I just had the same exact thing happen on my 1974 9.9 Johnson. Woodruff key is fine but flywheel hit Left magneto ear and bent some of the stacked plates down. I thought mine had locked up too.

[@Epressroom]

Question for Mike, On my 1964 18 HP Evinrude, there are 4 flathead screws under the starter assembly. Should they be removed before using the flywheel puller?

[@michaeljsimon]

Would need a picture

[@Epressroom]

@@michaeljsimon There doesn't appear to be an option to add a picture?

[@michaeljsimon]

@@Epressroom text to 337-278-5429

[@wilfor03]

Will that Positioning coil #317001 work with a Johnson 9.5 hp #: 9R-73B? and thank you....T-Mike

[@michaeljsimon]

Yes

[@wilfor03]

@@michaeljsimon Thank you....just ordered a positioning coil tool...

[@MisoJuice]

Why did you switch from positive on one spark plug boot to a negative on the bottom spark plug boot??

[@michaeljsimon]

When testing for continuity it does not matter which leads go where

[@Rue2love]

Great work but I'm lost on ac DC om. Can you make a video of how multi meters work??

[@michaeljsimon]

Will do.

[@jameswork9300]

Did you set the gap after filing the points

[@michaeljsimon]

Yes

[@meritz59]

tested my old cracked coils. Got reading of .9 on primary but no reading on secondary. Bought two brand new coils, same results. What am I doing wrong? What are the odds both brand new coils are bad? Never mind, I had ohms range set wrong. Now I am reading 10,000 ohms on each wire on both coils.

[@michaeljsimon]

I test all coils old and new. Did you test new coils?

[@ryanclark1841]

T Mike where is a good source to get parts? Need a couple parts for a 1991 johnson 15hp but don't want to pay retail

[@michaeljsimon]

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[@keitherickson7666]

When I go from coil connector to sparkplug I'm getting 6.08ohms , when I go from coil to coil connector I get 0 ohms. Why is that? I have pictures but don't know where to send them.

[@michaeljsimon]

Sure it’s not 6.08 k ohms. That would be 6,000 ohms which is good. Should be between 3k and 10k

[@nestormontagu4718]

I have 7.8k ohms between coil and plug on both coils, is this ok? No spark

[@michaeljsimon]

Yes. Good reading

[@nestormontagu4718]

@@michaeljsimon thanks for getting back so quick! Sorry to use up your time but I am really stuck. I have no spark, I sometimes get a faint spark on the spark tester but never on the plugs. Have tried several different plugs. HT leads been replaced, so I’m guessing points/condenser?? Thanks so much for your videos, I’m 17 years old and fix up old outboards for fun and a bit of cash!

[@michaeljsimon]

Rebuild magneto. t-mikesvintageoutboards.com/product/omc-tuneup-kit-1950-70s-coils-points-plugs-wire-18-5006-18-5181-t-mike-parts/

[@chicityaquaponics553]

I have a ? For a dual line Johnson 5.5 seahorse 1957 the Dual line that connects to the throttle which connection connects to the clear water separator fuel line or air

[@michaeljsimon]

One line is fuel the other is air. The fuel line would run thru the water separator.

[@chicityaquaponics553]

@@michaeljsimon awesome cool

[@user-rn7ix3tn5o]

Hey Mike what does it mean if I measure 0 ohms on my coil test you said 1-3 ohms

[@michaeljsimon]

Coil is shorted.

[@user-rn7ix3tn5o]

@@michaeljsimon thanks so I need new coils there is 2 on my 1972 4 hp Johnson they both read 0 ohms

[@user-rn7ix3tn5o]

There is cracking in the varnish can I recoat them?

[@user-rn7ix3tn5o]

I do get the right reading from the coil to the spark plug wire

[@michaeljsimon]

@@user-rn7ix3tn5o I would replace them www.ebay.com/itm/364162346337?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=sn3ajpvKTka&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=sn3ajpvKTka&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

[@astroboy5137]

I have a 1971 Evenrude 2hp. Without a coil positioning ring, how can I set my coil.

[@michaeljsimon]

Use a flat edge to ensure both surfaces are aligned

[@astroboy5137]

@@michaeljsimon Thank you!

[@easymac2004]

I have same motor no spark measuring 11k to the spark plug wire?

[@michaeljsimon]

Change points and Condensors

[@easymac2004]

Thanks 👍

[@clarencethomas5311]

How important is the position of the coils, didnt really want to buy any more tools

[@michaeljsimon]

Just use a straight edge screwdriver to line up edges.

[@DADFACS]

I'm commenting before watching is it the points?

[@michaeljsimon]

Yes

[@comptoncharles6401]

I am getting .75 when checking primary coils, is that an acceptable reading?

[@michaeljsimon]

Yes. I would think so - to verify you would need manufacturers specs on that particular coil.

[@michaeljsimon]

Yes

[@comptoncharles6401]

@@michaeljsimon thanks for the fast response. So my coils are good but I have no spark on the top cylinder Andy ideas or tips? Or should I just replace coils, points, condensers and wires?

[@comptoncharles6401]

Also it’s an evinrude sport win 9.5

[@michaeljsimon]

@@comptoncharles6401 you can always swap parts with working cylinder.

[@outlawflyer7868]

you got any wizard motors?

[@michaeljsimon]

No

[@joeyginise6051]

If the coils are less than one ohm, is that bad?

[@michaeljsimon]

Could be shorted - answer is yes.

[@HEAVYTHEP]

i sent you a email today about a manual ?

[@bhrtbanjaluka5935]

PLEASE HELP, I INSTALLED A NEW PUMP BUT THE FUEL DOESN'T GO.. I INSTALLED A NEW GASKET... REPAIRED THE CARBURETOR. IT WORKS FOR 3 SECONDS.. IT STOPS,,,,..HELP,,,THANK YOU

[@michaeljsimon]

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[@kenbarry101]

Where are you located

[@rooreeves]

Breaux Bridge Louisiana

[@chriswalker9350]

And how do I take the friggin flywheel off?

[@michaeljsimon]

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[@howardjohnson5354]

I use a 5lb lead hammer and big screw driver.

[@FishingDIYMacGyverWithMe]

One more thing- the manual says condenser for 25 ho should be 25-29 mfd I think it is a mistake. My condenser measures 180nf that is more realistic

[@user-mc9ny2iz7k]

Я ставлю электронику и никаких проблем больше

[@jonhutchens9770]

I went to the parts store. The young person there didn't know what points are.

[@michaeljsimon]

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[@Chrisbuildsstuff247]

Can the coils being miss aligned cause no spark how do I place them without one of thoses guide rings

[@michaeljsimon]

Use a screwdriver edge to line up.

[@Chrisbuildsstuff247]

@@michaeljsimon on that little step of metal should the coil be flush?

[@michaeljsimon]

@@Chrisbuildsstuff247 yes

[@propabilityfpv303]

3 thousand ohms haha

[@Ayerlooms]

317001