How to Understand the INFJ Brain

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Lauren Sapala

Lauren Sapala

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@LaurenSapalaINFJ
@LaurenSapalaINFJ Жыл бұрын
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@LaurenSapalaINFJ
@LaurenSapalaINFJ Жыл бұрын
@user-sk4ev4cf8h Weird! I'm so sorry about that. You can email me at writecitysf@gmail.com and I'll try adding you manually. Thanks for your patience!
@yukio_saito
@yukio_saito Жыл бұрын
Yes, I'm a big picture thinker as well as a detail-oriented thinker. I wasn't sure why other people can't think in that way. I stopped oversharing things with others because they don't comprehend what I say.
@za4109
@za4109 Жыл бұрын
Yes! I've never really understood when people talk about big picture thinkers Vs detail oriented thinker's because I don't understand not being able see both perspectives and everything in between - how things fit together. I've always heard people putting themselves in one category or another, but I've never genuinely felt that I fit in just one or the other. I've always seen connections/overlaps and patterns, both overall and then in details, etc and it took me a very long time - well into adulthood - to realize that most other people dont function in this way 😳. Understanding this has definitely helped in my communication with others, especially in work environments. If I have something I need to discuss I find it works so much better for me to get it all down in writing, map it out in a simplistic bullet pointy way and then go into verbal conversations with my notes. I've learned that quite intuitively over the years and it does help me to feel more understood and heard
@alexadellastella5247
@alexadellastella5247 Жыл бұрын
do you feel lonely as a consequence?
@yukio_saito
@yukio_saito Жыл бұрын
@@alexadellastella5247 No. It's just a radical acceptance of who they are. It's better than feeling unheard.
@maybee...
@maybee... Жыл бұрын
@yukio_saito True, this is why those people often assume we are weird and leave it at that.
@vernonbigham4760
@vernonbigham4760 Жыл бұрын
agree
@gregoryritchie7852
@gregoryritchie7852 Жыл бұрын
Even long-time professional psychologist got so frustrated with me - "too many words, too many details"! Apparently I'm a lottery random number generator spitting out words, details, scattered all over the place! I had NO idea ...
@NorwegianToby
@NorwegianToby 6 ай бұрын
I feel too smart and too stupid at once sometimes
@aniokay
@aniokay Жыл бұрын
Some people get overwhelmed when you present your thinking (that usually the ones that are more intuitive and can understand some of the things that you're saying), but then there's the sensor that haven't got a clue and who looks at you like you've just presented some conspiracy theory to them and they will say something like "I don't think that's how things are" or "I think you're reading too much into it".
@Treekneeeet
@Treekneeeet 2 ай бұрын
Yeah, some people do know how to go deep and think about certain things on a deeper level. It’s easier for them to be superficial about things.
@rick3747
@rick3747 11 ай бұрын
I have always felt that INFJs and INFPs live for patterns in life.
@todesque
@todesque 8 ай бұрын
Look for patterns in life, I think you mean, right?
@Ava.Luna.Bellatrix
@Ava.Luna.Bellatrix 7 ай бұрын
We see the interconnectedness between all things
@rick3747
@rick3747 7 ай бұрын
@@todesque Look for and live for patterns....
@prschuster
@prschuster Жыл бұрын
I usually want to talk about deep things, like what are the causes of war or why is society so materialistic, and the other person will give a simplistic reply (A causes B which causes C) and not follow all the twists and turns of my thoughts. As a biology tutor, I would draw diagrams and charts to explain how things work. That's really intuitive.
@michellemalan5228
@michellemalan5228 Жыл бұрын
I get you. Im also an INFJ, and most people get frustrated coz I always dive into deep topics and they just wana talk about simplistic & shallow things. The only type I've found that enjoys these conversations are INFPs
@The_Prince_Of_Crows
@The_Prince_Of_Crows Жыл бұрын
Absolutely 💯. The oversimplified world view without nuance, regard to time or outside factors, and a purely causal type focus. My view normally covers the broad subject and is all encompassing. It is like they cannot see the forest for the trees.
@YAMISOOLD2009
@YAMISOOLD2009 Жыл бұрын
I am just like that. I love deep subjects and nuance. I am a biologist and love the interconnectedness of our bodily systems. But all of this is simply loss on the mass of people. Most people can not think in a big picture way for very long. They just revert back to very simplistic cause and effect logic. "He's the president so it must be his fault if I am paying more or less for gas this week!" Its very wearying to be wired as an INFJ but I would not trade it away.
@prschuster
@prschuster Жыл бұрын
@@YAMISOOLD2009 It is hard to have a decent conversation with most people who can't mentally handle more than one possible cause to a complex problem.
@jasonstreet_art
@jasonstreet_art 9 ай бұрын
I'm very thankful I have 2 friends (not intuitive at all) that love to dive deep into thought and perspective discussions. History or what not. I'm not really book smart, but my mind feels such an amazing release when I get to talk what I think out loud. Often, my friends will say "I speak Jason" when I'm trying to explain myself. I love them for that. I'm really just discovering my personality in the past year, I'm 40. I'm happy to read and learn from these videos & and others' comments. It's really incredible.
@allenarrows9347
@allenarrows9347 Жыл бұрын
Quiet, imaginative, not holding onto much history and information like others, easily misunderstood, impairing direct communication
@thebluesinme313
@thebluesinme313 Жыл бұрын
This explains why people look at me like I'm speaking a different language. I've felt insane or like an idiot... like, what is wrong with me?? I REALLY appreciate this breakdown. 🙏 🕸
@borndeafin1ear
@borndeafin1ear 8 ай бұрын
One of the hardest thing I have deal with a lot of times (even well past 40) is people will say "You're overthinking it." When someone says this, I think "No, actually I'm not. You just can't see it." I never say that to them because they won't get it until it is demonstrated firsthand.
@lindyixchelsedona270
@lindyixchelsedona270 7 ай бұрын
Perhaps they r undethinking it!!
@Bat_Boy
@Bat_Boy 3 ай бұрын
Yes!
@kimisawa2001
@kimisawa2001 Жыл бұрын
When you start talking about "thinking in a web", it proves that YOU GET it! Thanks for sharing your reflections in your videos.
@Ava.Luna.Bellatrix
@Ava.Luna.Bellatrix 7 ай бұрын
We see the interconnectedness of all
@jpex9
@jpex9 Жыл бұрын
Introverted intuition. Understanding that as my dominant cognitive function was such a big deal for me.
@nickolaszissimos1189
@nickolaszissimos1189 Жыл бұрын
As an INFJ myself, I know the difficulty of trying to explain myself to most others and failing. Even some other intuitives seem to not fully follow but at least understand allot of it. INTJs though, they do fully understand us and where we are coming from. Also, they too share the rarest dominant cognitive function as us so of course they follow. Putting our ideas in writing helps but if we have an INTJ friend, we could ask them to help us simplify our ideas and most of the time, they will help. We are good at complexity and feel it is easy to us. When I am trying to figure something out and keep trying all the complex answers and it doesn't work, it blows my mind when I find out the answer is so simple. People don't seem to understand that either.
@rupinderh01
@rupinderh01 Жыл бұрын
i have an intj brother in law- ive always found it hard to talk to him as he's arrogant and gaslights, i think he is an narcisst. Ive stopped talking to him about my personal life now as after 8 yrs ive had enough
@nickolaszissimos1189
@nickolaszissimos1189 Жыл бұрын
@@rupinderh01 Yeah, no one is completely immune to toxicity unfortunately and that can be a bad thing if you aren't trying to work on yourself.
@brewest217
@brewest217 Жыл бұрын
In a relationship with INTJ I feel like he’s truly the only one who gets me. Hit the nail on the head!
@jeskoumm
@jeskoumm 8 ай бұрын
“I’m more intrigued with understanding uncontested assumptions….It is interesting to say the least”
@MartyDidier
@MartyDidier Жыл бұрын
Interesting concept of INFJ thinking processes. I’m in my middle 70’s, a SIGMA INFJ. Have worked w/FBI on a massive RICO Investigation since 98. It’s highly complex and learning about it was very consuming from the start especially since it involved me, Family and later all of us. It’s currently in our daily news and parts deeply threatens us. When learning at times, it’s easier for me to grasp the top then go down through the rabbit hole details. As they say, “you can see everything with a top down view”.
@91GT347
@91GT347 Жыл бұрын
Interesting…they are evil. I would quite possibly get rid of that. Especially on this platform. Js
@Vigilantwarrior42
@Vigilantwarrior42 Жыл бұрын
Agree with above commenter protect your identity
@traceydrake8013
@traceydrake8013 Жыл бұрын
Omg, yes. This is absolutely the worst when interacting with Sensors.😫
@wintermatherne2524
@wintermatherne2524 Жыл бұрын
I refuse to interact with them haha.
@stevedavenport1202
@stevedavenport1202 Жыл бұрын
Sometimes my web thinking worked. I used to be an airport shuttle driver and people would complain about how bad the traffic was going through downtown. Their solution was to "widen the road". I would always invite them to look at a different perspective by asking "Do you think that this section of the interstate is crowded at 2:00 AM?" I then went on to explain that widening the interstate would be insanely expensive and take years because A. Their would be expensive legal battles against the expansion B. It would cost billions of dollars to acquire all of the real estate and demolish it and C. This would go on for at least a decade....while traffic increased. So, the real issue is too many road users for about 6 out of 24 hours, 5 days per week. So, remove vehicles by : 1. Having staggered shifts for office workers. 2. Encourage more people to work from home. 3. Have mini shuttles running from transit hubs to office buildings. 4. Put an $8.00 toll on the road during the afternoon rush hour. 5. More transit. 6. Encourage businesses not 100% reliant on being located in the urban core to relocate. The response always seemed to be "But I paid for this highway. I don't want to pay the toll" 😏
@jsabri6324
@jsabri6324 11 ай бұрын
Thank you! I'm married to an ISTJ - probably the most linear thinking of the 16 types, and you have brilliantly explained why he doesn't get me when I explain something. He gets overwhelmed, and I get frustrated. Thank you!
@NicoleM_radiantbaby
@NicoleM_radiantbaby Жыл бұрын
I'm an INFP, not an INFJ, but I definitely get this way of thinking. Then again, I'm autistic and a pattern seeker by nature, so my mind tends to tie all sorts of things together that can make no sense to others and so I've definitely been there with people not understanding what I'm trying to communicate. 😀
@MegaCyberleader
@MegaCyberleader Жыл бұрын
dont cha wish you could just download it to thier brain. Ive thought, If i were able to do that, id go around popping heads.. and turn into a villian..
@effexon
@effexon Жыл бұрын
@@MegaCyberleader making good charts dont help? for me it helps but I wonder would that effort go to same category as thinking described that without explaining in detail it wont let others know more..... then again what personality type is novel author? Coz their special skill at least written is to paint a picture with lot of things there, some of them can absorb you into that scene. INFJ is sort of like that but new ideas, more abstract, in future perhaps, which everyone struggles and low hanging fruit is drop back to current and tiny spice of new(lot of social people do this, to build trust, solid ground between people, way more moderate spicing than INFJ would do). So why novel author analog? coz they often tell that they have so strong craving to write, it is almost as important as breathing, as way to communicate others their ideas they cant do otherwise... this web thinking sounds like same, if ya dont have job or other advanced mastery of skill developer, it is huge risk in all social life and my gut feeling says many INFJ/P dont have job for this reason despite good skills and other factors favoring them.
@kyurei4478
@kyurei4478 Жыл бұрын
I think it has something to do with the fact that you have extraverted intuition so you somehow get a bit of it. I guess the types who have introverted intuition as a tool function as well can somehow get it too like ENFJ and ENTJ. But you should always avoid with sensors, they won't understand anything, which isn't a criticism but only an observation.
@amberpowell5826
@amberpowell5826 Жыл бұрын
I’ve struggled for years with being misunderstood lol… it’s because I speak in webs 😂
@JAI_801
@JAI_801 Жыл бұрын
Wooow. I can see how my web thinking overwhelms everyone and can be really intense. Damn lol. Thank you!
@gailbrule1744
@gailbrule1744 Жыл бұрын
I love the web explanation! Spot on, that explains the process so well. I’m fortunate in that my husband is an INTJ…we have some amazing conversations. But even he doesn’t understand me at times…complains about the leaps I make. However, it’s usually on subjects that I’ve researched much more extensively but am having a problem myself in understanding just how I know what I know…😂. I’m old enough now though that I trust my gut implicitly and if he or others don’t get me, it’s no big deal. They don’t have to. Thanks for your insight!
@MichellePoulton-eq1ko
@MichellePoulton-eq1ko Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this explanation. Just starting to understand why I have always felt so different. Sometimes I see things so clearly connected but if I think about trying to explain to someone will give up before I start because it would take to long. Does anyone else feel like this?
@saramariasdotter3681
@saramariasdotter3681 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely! Very recognizibel! My partner is a very understanding and patient person. But if I start explaining things more thoroughly - he starts yawning...! 😅
@jasmin1773
@jasmin1773 Жыл бұрын
If you also love "web- based-thinking" it´s so satifying to watch detective movies with INTJs as detectives. Such as knives out, with Daniel Craig.
@3kayleedavis
@3kayleedavis 9 ай бұрын
Omg yes. This is exactly how i think and i hate explaining big things to people bc idk how to make it make sense to them!
@nattergalen1000
@nattergalen1000 3 ай бұрын
This explains exactly what i experience! I am a 57 year old american living in Denmark, not only do i think like an INFJ, but also in pictures, then it has to be translated into Danish. By then the conversation has moved on😂. So i just keep my mouth shut most of the time.
@christy4485
@christy4485 6 ай бұрын
I tested INFJ .. my friend guessed it and asked me to take the test. I can’t tell you how helpful your message today is for me. I get teased for “circling the airport too long before I land my plane” a lot .. I definitely think like this .. I often feel frustrated and mis understood. Thank you for you message !
@calisg1010
@calisg1010 Жыл бұрын
I’ve explained the spiderweb thought process to a friend. Everything is interconnected in my mind, I tend to loose people more than not. 😊
@kyurei4478
@kyurei4478 Жыл бұрын
Another problem I personally face when I try to at least be honest with people regarding how my brain works is since most people don't think things like a web and don't even conceive thinking like that, they often think people with dominant introverted intuition want to appear pedantic and make it look like they're much more intelligent when they're trying to explain it, when in reality we're just trying to be honest. For INTJs it's certainly not that important but for INFJs who really want to establish connections with others it really hurts. I mean INFJs can choose to avoid people then, but that's just not how they work and relationships are very important for them so I guess the best alternative is always not saying too much and appear like most people even though we always feel like an impostor in some way. Beside that, it is not talked about in the video but does extraverted intuition users get the web thinking too ? They seem to somehow get it from what I've seen even though their brain pretty much processes the opposite way by starting from one idea to expand it as a web, which is the reason why they notoriously appear so weird externally when the weirdness is rather internal for INFJs/INTJs I feel like.
@cory99998
@cory99998 5 ай бұрын
My brother told me the way I communicate is wrong and insinuated that I'm trying to impress people with word salad which felt very confusing and hurt. I didn't want to upset him so I said sorry, but I wish I had put my foot down. It kinda put a fork in our friendship that hasn't been undone because I don't know how to talk to him and I feel his judgement.
@JH-lb7ig
@JH-lb7ig Жыл бұрын
This was a great video, and something that really resonates. I struggle with conveying ideas most at work or when under pressure. I tend to think of my brain as thinking about things holistically, as a constellation or system but webs are a great analogy too. I’m not sure if you’re open to video suggestions but I’d love to see a follow up on ways to help INFJs convey there ideas or help them be heard. Because of thinking in webs, I tend to get overwhelmed when communicating on the spot, or under pressure - like I get flooded with ideas, the answers are there but I can’t filter or pull them to the surface, so instead I shut down and my anxiety takes over. No one would ever know how much is in my head as I can’t convey it. Even by myself I can see the main points of the web but can’t always put stuff into words. I also feel less and less like bothering nowadays unless I feel like someone will be interested because I feel like ‘I have nothing to prove, I am more than my mind’, but the draw back of that is that it prevents me from sharing. If anyone has any tips or suggestions for things that have helped them convey their ideas I’d love to hear! Thanks a lot.
@Snarkapotamus
@Snarkapotamus Жыл бұрын
Very well presented! I recognized many of the issues you were detailing right away. I'm very much an INFJ and my other half is most definitely not. When a problem comes up, I automatically see all of the different angles. The pros and the cons. When I start to explain them, she automatically sees it as me being negative and gets defensive. Not an easy dynamic to navigate...
@saramariasdotter3681
@saramariasdotter3681 Жыл бұрын
Very recognizibel!
@jasonstreet_art
@jasonstreet_art 9 ай бұрын
Very relatable here, also. I always felt I would have made a great court judge. I'll piggy back your comment by adding how frustrating it can feel when I have made a quick decision (perhaps that web was spun long ago) and the absolute best decision was denied. Then only to be proven you were right to begin with.
@sebastiangruffydd2765
@sebastiangruffydd2765 Жыл бұрын
Bravo! This is the most useful information on INFJ thought patterns and our difficulty in communicating with others. Wonderfully presented. I am most grateful.
@gdhhayes2129
@gdhhayes2129 Жыл бұрын
This helps me immensely as I didn't realize this accounts for the miscommunication issues I've encountered all my life with most other people.
@annagramling4191
@annagramling4191 3 ай бұрын
This is so true! My thinking is weblike. I build a full picture like a puzzle, everything is connected and I know when a piece is missing and incomplete. I can live with it but love an “Aha” moment of finding that last piece. I get so frustrated when people think in lines. It feels so incomplete and limited.
@borndeafin1ear
@borndeafin1ear 8 ай бұрын
This is also probably part of why I have such difficulties on standardized tests. When a question doesn't line up with choice answers to the same level of specification, then this "web thinking" comes into play and I find more than one possible answer, so it turns into "what answer do they expect?" This is where I get into trouble.
@ShunyamNiketana
@ShunyamNiketana 4 ай бұрын
When I was a graduate student, and now when I write stories or paint pictures, yes, the holistic, synthesizing approach has served me well. But I've also been a classroom teacher, so I've learned to be uncluttered and precise in my directions, especially for the task-oriented types. Knowing my passion for generating material and options, I try more now to bring closure to instructions and refrain from adding complexity. Where I might run into conflicts now is my interest in beauty. Not everyone shares it. But does my brain operate "differently"? Yes, if the reactions of friends, especially girlfriends, is any indication. But I don't tend to share a lot of private stuff anymore, which I used to justify as part of openness. I don't have the need now, whether to heal trauma or to satiate guilt and shame. I tend to ask questions of others and listen.
@janetleeadams7287
@janetleeadams7287 8 ай бұрын
Golly. No wonder I hated office meetings and even teacher meetings. I would sit, respectfully listen, but when I synthesized the information aloud, or made suggestions, people just stared and dismissed me. I am a pretty humble person, so it was not my manner, it was my ideas. Very frustrating. Another frustrating aspect is that though I am very emotional, I have kept emotions hidden or in deep lockup, and friends think I am cold- hearted and my current partner thinks i am crazy......oh dear, I am starting to sound ... they don't see the gap between what I am feeling and what I say.
@saramariasdotter3681
@saramariasdotter3681 3 ай бұрын
I recognize everything! 😂😢
@janetleeadams7287
@janetleeadams7287 3 ай бұрын
@@saramariasdotter3681 Laugh or cry--too true.
@BasedGodEmperorTrump
@BasedGodEmperorTrump Ай бұрын
INTJ, here. My girlfriend is ISTJ. The biggest misunderstanding between us is that I'm too abstract for her. I can literally watch her eyes glaze over in real time, depending on the depth/intricacy of the current conversation topic. She doesn't get the unspoken connections/patterns, theoreticals and just the lack of concrete/tangible information. Then, when I have to convert images to basically layman's terms for her to understand is mentally exhausting for me.
@thetravellersboots
@thetravellersboots 4 ай бұрын
"Web based thinker" 😂 I liked that.
@Christine-j7n
@Christine-j7n Жыл бұрын
This helped me out soooo much . I’ve been feeling so confused as to why people don’t understand me. I mean well but I feel like sometimes their reactions are as if I’ve told them the earth was flat 😆….. or more accurately explained , it’s as if they thought what I was saying wasn’t connected to what they were saying so they thought I wasn’t listening to them and went off on my own tangent but I didn’t ….. it was definitely connected yet they seem to think it wasn’t ??? In my mind the connections are front and center. So it doesn’t even dawn on me that they aren’t seeing the connection.
@TheMinskyTerrorist
@TheMinskyTerrorist 11 ай бұрын
Most people can't even handle the concept of contributing factors in cause and effect, they'll seize on exactly one cause and forget everything else.
@WarnerElliott
@WarnerElliott Жыл бұрын
This reminds me of the clustering writing technique. Very helpful, thank you.
@ricardapoznanski5604
@ricardapoznanski5604 9 ай бұрын
I see all my projects/events=choreogeahies/fairy-story-films in the whole-with every little detailbefire my inner eye -long before I let my team starts rehearsing.....they follow me because they trust me-and in the end rhey say" you did it again" BUT when I talk to others outside my inner circle,I can see in rheir faces,that they think" qhat is she talking about?'- ...they talk to others about me"she is very nice-but a bit crazy...."-or even say to my face,that I talk balagan..... they cannot follow... I know ...ao I try to explain and then they get boared-but after the show-I hear " Oh-now I see".... I work a lot with children....All age groups -3-17 years..... THEY ALLWAYS UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING....and wven come up with more ideas to tune the story... I liked yiu video a lot -THANK YOU❤❤❤
@AnneChandreamer
@AnneChandreamer Жыл бұрын
No wonder I like mind maps so much 😮
@seankody4804
@seankody4804 Жыл бұрын
Lol. Hey Miss Lauren. Well, that certainly explains why my thinking has many folks confused. The web concept is accurate, it's just hard to formulate into words. Sometimes it comes out as imagery and people can sort of follow it. But I think it's people who are more aligned with a dominant intuition that will see it. Thank you for the video. CYA!!!🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
@Bl636_
@Bl636_ Жыл бұрын
Most people communicate on 1 or 2 things -Injf communicate on everything . So people see him like talk random things
@AndreEth777
@AndreEth777 Жыл бұрын
CONFIRMATION, THANK YOU ▪︎♡°~
@Christine-j7n
@Christine-j7n Жыл бұрын
This also inspired me to reach for my dream of publishing something one day . I love to write . You made me feel that maybe I am definitely born to be a writer . This web like thinking makes for great writing I feel .
@aniokay
@aniokay Жыл бұрын
I'm not sure that I'm an INFJ, but I surely am a heavy intuitive. I am constantly feeling like I'm an alien to other people because they don't understand my leaps of thinking - they tend to feel puzzled or amused (especially when talking to ISFJs for a reason. ISFJs are pretty stereotypical in the way they're functioning). And I feel like I'm neurodivergent just for that reason. And I can get so angry that I get misread - people don't understand what I'm saying, they laugh or smile and think that they're more intelligent than me. But it's just because I don't tell them all the details, and when I bother to spell out the f'ing details for them, they suddenly understand and realize that I'm not weird or crazy, but actually have thought about things a lot.
@YAMISOOLD2009
@YAMISOOLD2009 Жыл бұрын
My wife is an ISFJ. But she is such a good listener to me. And she does grasp what I say even though she herself would never formulate that kind of thought herself. And she actually helps me when she summarizes what I say sometimes. I will go "around the block" as she says, as I try to put my web brain thoughts into words for her and then after I have vomited all of my thoughts to her she will come up with a brilliant statement that summarizes what I have been trying to communicate for an hour!😁
@trocycling1204
@trocycling1204 Жыл бұрын
So interesting, and explains a lot. I never thought about web vs linear type thinking. There's nothing worse than my great idea seemingly falling on deaf ears, but this is probably what it is. Thank you!
@Leatherneck1057
@Leatherneck1057 Ай бұрын
I have recognized this disconnect for years and struggled with not over-explaining or giving a comprehensive explanation of some idea. My motive was to give a well thought out presentation for a better, more panoramic understanding of the subject. The result was people missing the “web” and labeling me as aloof or not that bright; it is the roots beneath the soil that directly affect the trees or grass you can see. Most people don’t care about cause and effect, their attention span demands simplicity, brevity, moving right along, please.
@theepiczone3397
@theepiczone3397 Жыл бұрын
This was a fantastic educational video for me to help me have a better understanding of the way I think and how to communicate better with people. You won me as a subscriber and thank you for this excellent video.
@tieraarakawa4570
@tieraarakawa4570 7 ай бұрын
As an INFJ myself, thank you for this explanation on a “web”, makes a lot of sense!
@peytonstafford
@peytonstafford Жыл бұрын
Write fiction, all you INFs. Thank you Lauren. Love your shimmering locks and pink lipstick... just my web thinking.
@jennacuracoa
@jennacuracoa Жыл бұрын
I'm currently working in my novel. I spend a lot of time brainstorming rather than talking to people 😊
@jose11032
@jose11032 4 ай бұрын
LAUREN
@kaycevanveer212
@kaycevanveer212 Жыл бұрын
Going to get a big white board!!! Oh my goodness listening to you is so refreshing to these INFJ ears. ❤
@ArthursAtman
@ArthursAtman Жыл бұрын
So thoughtful and helpful. I recently tried to describe said phenomenology to a friend. I found it helpful to describe convergent vs. divergent thought, with an analogy to breathing--where you need periods of convergence and linear thought, punctuated and enlivened by periods of divergent thought, where free association just does what it will; expand, contract...you get the breathing analogy
@saramariasdotter3681
@saramariasdotter3681 Жыл бұрын
A very interesting and recognizibel discussion! And your description of our minds processing is very well described, I think!! ❤ (But, unfortunately often misunderstood by others 😢) When I was a teenager, my father and I often had tough discussions - but in the end of his life he suddenly said: It's strange that my logic and your intuition often arrive to the similar results (!) 😊
@ArthursAtman
@ArthursAtman Жыл бұрын
Thank you. I more naturally process things intuitively/divergently, but the cool thing is it far easier to train the more analytical side than the intuitive (though our intuition can be informed, educated, etc). What I mean is it's easier for an INFJ to train in analytic philosophy or math and get proficient than it might be for a non-intuitive person to develop, say, a talent for music or art. So I consider us lucky/cursed, b/c we can more or less develop both kinds of thinking, get them working together, but we start with this gift of a head-start with our natural intuitive competences. p.s. math and logic feels like work to me, but I learned it; while intution/creativity feel's like the opposite--a letting go of control/effort @@saramariasdotter3681
@kort6569
@kort6569 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing! Indeed it is easier for me to understand if I have a web of my thoughts 🕸️ and are visually available. I have a comment on 10:26: I always feel that this acceptance is one sided 😂 Like I'm the one who always adjusts - sometimes it doesnt feel natural and I feel like I am the only one who puts more effort.
@TooScentz
@TooScentz Жыл бұрын
Wow. I'm impressed with the accuracy of this explanation. I'm also thinking "ya right, I can't mitigate possible outcomes when I explain things because THEY'RE STILL POSSIBLE OUTCOMES AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW YOU CAN'T SEE THIS!" I'm kidding, but those that know this feeling, REALLY know this feeling
@be-happy-ever-after
@be-happy-ever-after Жыл бұрын
WOW 🥰, thank you!!! This truly came to me at the right moment and obviously divine timing. I had been racking my brain effortlessly in hopes of being more malleable to my family. It makes perfect sense and you have a beautiful way of breaking it down! I thoroughly enjoyed sweet spoonfuls of medicine that easily absorbed into my subconscious mind. Blessings to you and all who enjoy 🙏🏼
@DonTrump-sv1si
@DonTrump-sv1si Жыл бұрын
I feel like im talking a different language to people. So not only do i have to explain the topic at hand but i have to figure out how im going to best explain said topic so they can understand. Most of the time i come off like a dipsh!t
@Monkwhispers
@Monkwhispers Жыл бұрын
Very well said!
@kurtking8452
@kurtking8452 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much that there a persons like you, who understand how my brain works. I find when I write what I want to say, it comes over better. With the web? That's where I live all the time.😊
@amezfires9247
@amezfires9247 6 ай бұрын
Same. I've kept a journal for decades because I don't do well speaking my thoughts.
@Kelektroid
@Kelektroid 10 ай бұрын
I stumble over words and meaning while my whole energyfield wants to communicate holographically and telepathically..and I do, but often its not received...like a blockage of meaning and understanding in the other that I have to talk around or I try to find the right symbology or term that does sink in with the other and so I get lost in all kinds is sideways...and I end up feeling like an eternal weirdo, but I dont care anymore. 😂 This healer will (mostly) only heal herself from now on and let others have their path, as long as they dont expect too much from me.
@mytruthbekind5793
@mytruthbekind5793 Жыл бұрын
Yes. I do this. That is how I think.
@kristopherfreitag2033
@kristopherfreitag2033 6 ай бұрын
I've learned to slow down the explanationthen. When I'm asked, how'd you know that? Oh I saw it come across the screen. Because I visually in my mind picture the outcome of the situation. Very frustrating when I simplify the answers and blank or total opposite of what I said.
@ScottieBeanZ
@ScottieBeanZ 5 ай бұрын
You are the best, Lauren! You are starting to change my life peace by peace! I’m so grateful to have found you, God bless you and your entire team! 🎆🎇🌠
@markwdalton
@markwdalton 12 күн бұрын
Systems view. More than web which is 2D, more than 3D also over time so in 4D for most things, and all processing everything in parallel. But yes I try to limit to 1D ( linear), or write a outline in technical things, or academic. But emotional I often forget others do not listen/trust my words verbatim, they reinterpret in their own view. It is the same on testing, MBTI, and other pysch tests are poor, and very 1D, some 2D and very limited. Even simple biological and physics problems need to be looked at in 4D.
@psputsimply
@psputsimply Жыл бұрын
Wow, absolutely brilliant analysis and presentation! Thank you so much for a to-the-point, accurate take on my thinking and advice on processing frustrating responses. Looking forward to many more similar insights! 👏🏻🙏
@highparadise11
@highparadise11 9 ай бұрын
I’m thinking about a thousand things at a time exactly like you explained it’s a spiderweb and it’s never ending besides when I try to solve a problem and I hit the wall where there’s no solution only dead ends
@ChadThomas-ev8xr
@ChadThomas-ev8xr 6 ай бұрын
The way you explain this is great, and also (probably) unintentionally funny. I feel very lucky to have stumbled across your videos. Thanks! ❤
@ELY3358
@ELY3358 Жыл бұрын
This is very good advice. I actually have problems with family understanding me. So have slowly evolved into just making short comments. A point here and there. Too many times people didn’t see what I see. 👍
@jennacuracoa
@jennacuracoa Жыл бұрын
I've learned the same. Short and simple statements then just be quiet 😊
@eva_fr
@eva_fr Жыл бұрын
Wow, I loved this explanation. It makes sense a lot. I could always explain my points to others in writing or in charts. Otherwise, people don't really get me.
@saramariasdotter3681
@saramariasdotter3681 Жыл бұрын
Me too! That's why I love mailing people... And (being a hsp too), I don't get influenced by the confused other person! 😅 Maybe many authors are INFJ:s !??
@alvinceballos8885
@alvinceballos8885 9 ай бұрын
Thank you Coach Lauren for clarifying what web based thinking means to INFJs and how we can bridge the gap of understanding with non-intuitives.
@jennacuracoa
@jennacuracoa Жыл бұрын
I have to catch myself when talking and simply state I have a lot of ideas then transition to ending the conversation before I get long-winded or come across as being dominating
@hwasansword
@hwasansword 8 ай бұрын
Insightful and practical! Thank you. :)
@DjVanillaGuerilla
@DjVanillaGuerilla Жыл бұрын
The web is a great way to put it. I use a lightning strike going off in my head, triggering my neurons. Where the most logical idea is the main part of the bolt and the ideas are all the forks of lightning shooting off in all directions. In my relationships with my partners I would sit down with them and actually draw and write stuff down to show them exactly what I was thinking.
@bethiciaprasek9415
@bethiciaprasek9415 Жыл бұрын
I love the Post-It dry erase sheets which you can carry with you in your car.
@lrwiersum
@lrwiersum Жыл бұрын
I would be an exceptional Military commander.
@rasheedamuhammad144
@rasheedamuhammad144 Жыл бұрын
Ma'am it's the spirit and no one can crack that code😅😂🤣✌️
@kaycevanveer212
@kaycevanveer212 Жыл бұрын
You are so freaking awesome!!! Thank you.
@theenlightenedhour-lt6hw
@theenlightenedhour-lt6hw 9 ай бұрын
This was brilliant⭐️
@heatherloffelmann3547
@heatherloffelmann3547 8 ай бұрын
In highschool our class of advanced learners was required to take standardized tests. Our marks were too high for their liking . We also messed up the marking of the tests by maschines because we wrote in multiple answers because the question was not soecific enough, after 3x's giving the same test to us and we just got evrn better because many in the class had photographic memories and we all helped each other out so the designers came to us to ask how to design a better test. First they had to narrow their petameters and make the questions so specific that only one answer could possibly be correct. The student would have had yo learn thr material being tested to know the answer. Also they had to develope a more random correct answer pattern. For years C was often , over 60%of the time to be the correct answer.it was very hard to be presented with whole classes of intuitives mostly FJ and T J . The lowest IQ was 124 but he was a savant on piano and pretty good at everything else. This type of test design is also very good for everyone since guessing really does not work. Those who need help will get it sooner than later.
@Guerson953
@Guerson953 Жыл бұрын
Thanks… the way you just explain it 🔥🔥🔥I never realize that
@SD-rm5ty
@SD-rm5ty Жыл бұрын
Yes thinking in a web is the best way to describe my thought process. 😅 And frustration with non intuitive types the struggle is so real. 😂😅
@reinierplatenkamp3746
@reinierplatenkamp3746 Жыл бұрын
I was hoping you would help me figuring out my infj brain, now realising I've got a huge 🕷 in my head. Trying to make the best of a bad situation I could become a web designer... Thanks Laura for your explanation. It was really helpful. I think you're an amazing person!
@debjitbera
@debjitbera 8 ай бұрын
What a great way of explaining the intricate details of an INFJ Brain & Thinking pattern...Thank you.
@Vivi_Chan1111
@Vivi_Chan1111 Жыл бұрын
Friday I gone through something like that with an INFP. Except by the hardcore maths (all done by me), he took a little bit to process the information but he did
@gwenhowarth73
@gwenhowarth73 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Lauren, you just put it into a perfect package, it all makes sense now! Thank you ❤
@ArthursAtman
@ArthursAtman Жыл бұрын
Also your use of color in this video is really lovely. It just presents as rather pleasant, or I like those colors or something, but well-done IMO
@Thilosophocl3s
@Thilosophocl3s Жыл бұрын
Before I began a regular meditation practice Ni would hijack me whenever it wanted to. It would drop me off 5 miles past my exit, or keep me from being present in very important situations. Meditate regularly. Lol, my Ni is simply "knowing" the answer. Once I'm asked and find that I "know" the answer, I'm able to draw the lines from the answer back to all the connecting points that created that answer.
@Zohar333
@Zohar333 Жыл бұрын
I know this exact sentiment. There is so much in our web, that sometimes we arrive at an answer based on so many things either subconsciously connecting or consciously connecting, that we have to 'work backwards' for other people. I've shocked myself by the things that I just "know" and then have to prove to others (and myself often!). I often ask myself "why" do I have this knowing on so many things that I haven't studied formally. It definitely explains why INFJ's are able to thrive under pressure. We seem to live our lives prepared for all possible outcomes. Have you heard of the Blue Zen Brain? It's something we share with INTJ's. Essentially, our two types are the most balanced in regard to left brain/right brain. But INFJ's use slightly more right brain than INTJ's and the opposite is true for their left brain thinking.
@Thilosophocl3s
@Thilosophocl3s Жыл бұрын
@KG haven't heard of blue zen, but I am fairly familiar with L and R brain. I love TJs, there is so much they undamentally understand ❤️❤️❤️. So the left and right brain balance is all about our function stacks TJs with NiTeFiSe nd FJs with NiFeTiSe our 2nd and 3rd functions being swapped for one another tracks perfectly with left and right brain functions.
@adamcolclasure8254
@adamcolclasure8254 Жыл бұрын
Funny thing is I kinda understood this before I watched this video it doesn't make me feel any less alone
@LearnGermanwithMarzipanfrau
@LearnGermanwithMarzipanfrau Жыл бұрын
Thank you for that video. I'm a new subscriber. I know this feeling when I'm showing my web and people don't understand me. So this was interesting.
@DeanWager-kp8sp
@DeanWager-kp8sp 11 ай бұрын
My gratitude for the content in this video is soaring through the cosmos right now! 😅 thank you.
@jensnielsen5551
@jensnielsen5551 4 ай бұрын
Wonderfully explained, thank you!
@robingoh2325
@robingoh2325 2 ай бұрын
ENT personalities also tend to think in webs, but are guided more by logic and objective reasoning. How, then, is this different from INF thinking? And why are INFs often considered ‘weird’ while ENTs are not? This version tightens the language while maintaining the contrast you’re drawing between the types.
@Eleora1997Msia
@Eleora1997Msia 8 ай бұрын
Body on the bed but the brain is not fully shut down or sleep (still on going working process) Think of the past , Think of the future, think of the current Trying to connect (Past + Current = Future outcome) Or (Future - Past = Current present) Or (Current x Past + Future * Current) Or (What ever math is left or right there is something in the middle) Till peace and zen is made out
@goldilocks913
@goldilocks913 Жыл бұрын
Brilliantly put 👍
@amritpandey23
@amritpandey23 2 ай бұрын
I am an INFJ and I came here to understand my brain.
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