HOW WILL TERRA REACT TO THE RETURN OF LION EL'JONSON? ANOTHER PRIMARCH RETURNED

Hey everyone Rho here! Today we're discussing how the Powers of Terra will react to another loyal Primarch returned? How will they feel about Lion El'Jonson?
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[@rosskwolfe]

The High Lords: This is getting out of hand. Now there are TWO of them!

[@darkhighwayman1757]

Jaghatai will return next

[@sodadrinker89]

​@@darkhighwayman1757or Vulcan, or Russ, and Corvus can return as a big old Raven.

[@ambrosiogiovanni6952]

Imagine when Corvus comes back and they understand that if they think about secession, accidents will happen.

[@tetrarch_1347]

Roger, Roger

[@mistercmartin]

If no one else is going to acknowledge the Star Wars: Episode 1 reference, then I will. It fits, and I could see this being the High Lords' response.

[@marsmech]

The inquisition "Lion el Johnson what did you ever do?" LJ "you dont have the clearance to know about my campaigns during the great crusade or Horus heresy ". Inquisitor "I am the high lord of the entire inquisition"! LJ "I am aware of your station and clearance level".

[@Scott.webb64]

Im not so sure the records of the Custodies would be lacking when it comes to the Lion. He was THE trusted Primarch. They would know Big E trusted him over everyone. His legions battle honors, shrouded in secrecy to everyone but the Custodies. I feel like the biggest threat to the Lion coming back to Terra is certainly the Inquisition. The current lore shows a massive Inq focus on his return. If we see drama, its gonna be between them. RG is logical, and can be influenced/reasoned with. But the Lion, they will know he doesnt play fuck fuck games. And if the Inq hates anything, its someone who (like them) refuses to play by the rules.

[@manty5]

Even more than that, I think the fact that Guilliman did not throw the Inquisition out on its ear will be a major bone of contention between the brothers. For the Universe, it has been 10,000 years since the Imperial Truth reigned and the only people claiming the emperor was a god were traitors incited by Lorgar. But for the Lion, it was last Tuesday.

[@Humster]

I think a number of ppl forgotten about the Dead Custodies surrounded by Dark Angels outside the Throne room.....

[@1701Emperor]

​@Humster there weren't any insignias tying those dead Astartes to the Dark Angels. The Dark Angels had made sure of that.

[@bobloerakker7010]

Leman russ

[@combomaster666]

@@1701Emperor But the gene seed was.

[@kingbaldwiniv5409]

Russ himself said that Lion El'Jonson always did well in the courts of Terra. Besides, the High Lords and Administratum will be happier that the Astartes will be split between 2 primarchs now.

[@Dadecorban]

It will be a consideration. There will be other considerations. Like...."Now there are two of them, fuck"

[@drunknnirish]

One thing to keep in mind with the Lion is his "Primarch aura". I think most would just take the knee when he walks by just like Dante did. Plus he is now commanding the most powerful force the Imperium has (the 1st legion) so that will come into play as well.

[@N0noy1989]

The Ultramarines and all their successors and allies are way, way, way more numerous than the Dark Angels and all their bros.

[@drunknnirish]

@@N0noy1989 Yea but they dont have all the cool unknown super mega death toys that the DA do. Being more numerous doesn't mean more powerful.

[@huntergallatin6758]

​@@N0noy1989yeah boy lion strolls onto Terra with 7 imperial knights and a man o iron and army of emerald clad silent Champs robby G gonna take a knee. Remember back preherasy everyone of the primarchs had thought they could take another, but no one primarch thought they were a match for this unit. It was imperative he was no where close to Terra

[@kharnthebetrayer1575]

@@N0noy1989and we don’t know how many fallen have come back do the Lion . And we have weapons the other chapters wished they had .

[@jasonwould6259]

Walks up to the high lords of terra and the minotaurs and say u got a problem with me? Guillaman laughs in the background

[@PapaFunDip]

Though i think the custodes should know how much the emperor trusted the Lion, as they were probably the ones who opened the dark cells and handed all the dark age tech to him and they probably also know he was the only primarch told about chaos from the get go

[@mandoperthstacker]

Yup, and they fought chaos from the get go. On Caliban.

[@fbussier80]

I kinda hope that their dynamic would become a right hand/left hand approach. Girlyman could be the positive front that the Imperium needs while KittyJohnson could be the one that handle the secretive matters (close to Inquisitor level of matters). It would allow both primarchs to shine at what they are both great at while being a huge exercise in trust building amongst 2 very different brothers.

[@DogKacique]

It would be interesting if their situations were twisted. Where upon Guillman is used to be the face while Lion spent the Great Crusade doing the dirty work, I would like to see Lion holding the imperium while Girlyman finally has a chance to blow stuff up

[@sword4005]

Guilliman will be over joyed, he can hand over command of imperium forces to the lion to fight humanities enemies while he focus on sweet sweet logistics

[@sonicsucks20]

Guiliman has the run the Imperium tho.

[@Masamune84]

The Inquisition will be a issue, with questions about The Risen/Fallen being brought into light and the legion’s action of hunting them down by any means necessary

[@kccustodes2618]

The "Fallen" never seemed that big a deal to me. A ton of White Scars went traitor and actively challenged the Khan. More of an issue is the scandalous shenanigans by the current DA over the Fallen, they have are so ridiculous they have become memes.

[@kccustodes2618]

I absolutely love this new totally relatable Lion. I would love to see more normal and responsible behavior in upcoming novels. I can't find exactly the right words to describe what I want precisely. Something like apogizing to the Space Wolves and sorting out percieved issues as immature bravado now that he is more mature. Taking responsibility for the DA even though he was asleep while they were doing their shenanigans, saying he will punish those responsible and sort them straight. Like a responsible dad that will sort out his misbehaving children, as they are HIS children to discipline. Like I said, i am finding right words and phrases difficult, but just the feeling that the Lion stay relatable to us, the readers. It is really a nice change from GWS, having super relatable characters.

[@willmosse3684]

What are you reading to get the current character of the Lion? I am not very up on the current timeline. Thanks

[@kccustodes2618]

@@willmosse3684 Lion: Son of the Forest by Mike Brooks. It has the Lion awakening after 10k years and reuniting with his sons and Mike Brooks really does a great job of making this more mature Lion so relatable. Easily one of my favorite 40k books. I have it on audible too.

[@willmosse3684]

@@kccustodes2618 Okay, great. I’ll listen to that as my next audiobook. Cheers 🍻

[@wwpark]

@@willmosse3684it’s so good

[@kharnthebetrayer1575]

@@kccustodes2618sitting at the house waiting for me to finish GodBlight .

[@esbennielsen8832]

I think i would be awesome if Gulliman was handed a report of suspicious activities in the sector the Lion emerged in to and saw hints of his brothers taktiks, causing him to go look.

[@almightycthulhu3651]

*tactics

[@gogglebox2456]

I thought guilliman already knew he was back and was kinda happy he wasn't alone

[@Sintoras7]

@@gogglebox2456 No, the Lion heard of Guillimans return, but as far as we know, Robute is busy and thinks all his brothers are long gone. I think his reaction will be even better because he has gotten used to thinking he is all alone

[@catosicarius3262]

He is fighting Leviathan, I bet the reunion will be the Lion showing up to save the day, bodying some super character 'nid. The Lion will have some dope line about how one of them was raised to be the beacon, the promise of the crusade. While the other was raised in the darkness, the slayer of nightmares who seek to smother the light. After pulling Rowboat to his feet and the position saved by reinforcing Dark Angels in both crusade era and indomitus era panoply. The Lion will proceed to put his helm back on and charge off.

[@Andernol]

Initially, I would have said that the return of Lion would have spelled the immediate beginning of a civil war. Old lion would have never played the games with the high lords of terra the way Guilliman did. He'd clean house and stomp anyone in his way. But the new Lion we got is very different. He's more subtle, he understands that sometimes forgiveness and politicing is necessary. Itll be interesting to see what happens.

[@Wustenfuchs109]

I don't think HE changed much, it is just that he acted the way he did due to the circumstances allowing it. Now, Primarchs do not have the weight they used to have, they need to calculate their moves a lot. Robute would also prefer things in some other way, but he sees that rocking the boat NOW will have terrible consequences. Same with Lion. I am sure he is all about cleaning house and stomp stomp stomp, but he is not an idiot, he sees that he cannot do it, and even if he could it would leave Imperium in the worst state than it currently is. Basically, both Primarchs came into the setting where Imperium is a large tanker going for a brick wall, going at high speed. They would very much like to shift from the 4th gear into the reverse, but that would destroy everything. They realize that it is much better to gradually steer the tanker and lower the speed, trying to minimize the damage of collision. In short, they know they have to work with what they've got, not what they would like.

[@aloyalspacemarine5761]

“My sons. We are going on a field trip to terra”

[@ffejpsycho]

I don't buy it... Any Dark Angels field trip destination would kept as top top top top top secret to every person on board, on the rock... and anywhere else, really... NO EXCEPTIONS not even the lion can be risked with the knowledge!!! I guess the ship just rockets through space aimlessly, and the closest planet to where they happen to run out of fuel must have been the destination the whole time.... and none could have anticipated their arrival, not even themselves!!! GOD TIER OBFUSCATION ENGAGED!!

[@WR288]

"Brother, you should've given some warning before randomly teleporting into the throne room. Now please release the Captain General, I imagine he'd like to breathe again." - Guilliman

[@bigmonkeking9067]

Badass

[@scrotusmaximus3043]

I think the high lords are as corrupt as they've always been and are part of the reason why the Emperor is in such a sad state. I Hope the Lion can sort things out, but then again Hope IS the first road on way to disappointment.

[@Balboainc]

I feel like the high lords would be the least of his worries

[@jonharrison9222]

Guilliman purged them and put more competent men and women in charge.

[@tanjiro2507]

​@@jonharrison9222not really, the lord of assassins who is on Guilliman's "side" is part of a movement that hates and seeks to destroy the sisters of silence, considering them abominations.

[@d4n4nable]

​@@tanjiro2507correctly so.

[@BloodyArchangelus]

Read custodes books and shadow of the throne and do not spread lies…

[@scrumpypancakes406]

Guilliman gave the High Lords a choice to retire peacefully or die and they still tried to stage a coup. Captain Genocide will probably just resort to throwing them in the woodchipper and moving on to more important things, like gathering his sons and figuring out what beauty products the Ultramarines used to keep his brother looking young.

[@justinianthegreat1444]

"A-are you sure you want to use the beauty product our Father used, Uncle?" YES, TELL ME! "I-its's Aeldari kisses"

[@_NutcasE_]

The new high lords wont make the same mistake. The ones that did got assassinated by the grandmaster of assassinorum.

[@redepkank]

HAHAHA Captaingenocide had me spitting coffee all over my keyboard..thank you

[@Slyslug]

Did we forget the attack the DA made on terra? I'm sure on lionels return we'll find out more about that.

[@attemptedunkindness3632]

Lion: **Looks around Imperium, turns to Robute and grins** "I." Robute: "...No." Lion: "Told." Robute: "No no no" Lion: "You." Robute: "NO NO WAIT WAIT WAIT--" Lion: "So." Robute: **Dies on the inside, thousand yard stare, catatonic silence**

[@ordohereticus5530]

When was it stated that the custodes know of Imperium Secundus? Also the Lion needs to humble the Inquisition alongside the sons of Dorn and Russ. That storyline has been stagnant for far to long.

[@michaelmacdonald8656]

I think it's one of the dawn of fire books, practically the custodes says to guilliman we know and guilliman stiffens at it. Edit: it was wolf time

[@Aloysius10]

I think the Lion will be appointed head of the Inquisition.

[@codycurtin2295]

I love the timing of this video, Im reading the dark City trilogy and re-reading the watchers of the throne duology and to be honest I feel like that will be the tipping point for Imperium schism. A 2nd primarch returning will represent a TRUE loss of power for the high lords. It is a guarantee that they no longer will be in control and their response can only be greater than the Hexarchy Crisis. I think it would add a great element to the universe where there are anti-imperial forces that are loyal the Emperor but not chaos worshipping and not worshipping the primarchs

[@kharnthebetrayer1575]

G-Man needs his brother now more than ever, with how the wars are ramping up !!

[@Tarorc79]

They are all gonna be like : Hey bro..

[@byronlee-wi3zv]

I think there will be suspicion and doubt of the Lion, that is until he gathers his entire legion not just the OG Dark Angels but every single sub chapter with a very public display of swearing fealty to the Lion and the Emperor. Dante one of the most respected space marines took the knee on meeting the Lion. Whilst he won’t follow the Lion blindly, he and the Blood Angels will support the Lion, both chapters have been called the Angels of death, and with the Dark Angels and Blood Angels together the imperium will accept the Lion, otherwise it will be civil war that mankind would not survive.

[@CidVeldoril]

I think the only Primarch's return the Custodes would wholeheartedly be welcoming without reservations is Rogal Dorn's. The golden boys love the other, more stoic golden boy. It helps that he loves defending the imperial palace as much as they do.

[@TheHAZMAT221]

This channel deserves more love

[@unruly_ronin]

Love the Thumbnail Rho!

[@Frank-ob6wi]

I care little of how the Highlords will react I wanna see how El Johnson reacts when he catches the Highlords stepping wrong

[@combomaster666]

Heads will roll, especially if he catches them plotting against Guilliman again or worse himself.

[@nikolaidetrick7593]

Hey brother, loved seeing you in collaboration with the Amber King! Keep up the great work!

[@carsoncasmirri3874]

Would be funny if the High Lords came in then were greeted with a fog machine and light show with music as the Lion just descends from the ceiling on wires like the fucking Undertaker

[@Masonicon]

Each 1 primarch can outsmarts the entire High Lords of Terra in even raw IQ

[@orraklbenedict1832]

Ooo could you do an overview of the Adeptus Astra Telepathica? I find them quit interesting and overlooked

[@sebastianzmijewski1282]

I think jhagatai is next. In the wolftime novel there is a comment where the stormcaller, the wolves chief librarian not this proper title. Mentions that there were rumors of the lions return and jhagatai riding over Cadia. He was right about one of the two so far.

[@kharnthebetrayer1575]

Russ will come back before the others , just because Space pups have their own codex where the others like Khan, Dorn are part of the main codex.

[@Cmdtheartist]

There's so many ways this could go. It depends on whether or not GW is in a good mood.

[@ffejpsycho]

GW in a Good mood.... That's a hilarious one!!

[@curbnug3487]

They're like thank the emperor we got girly man. The lion would have us all for lunch.

[@palonoctisursa]

One looks the other in the eye and says the words ‘Imperium Secundus’

[@montaviasable]

I feel that Gman will become the Front man as such conductiong the crusades and strengthening the areas he passes through and combating the main campaigns while the Lion with his forest walking ability may become the blade, stiking out at the smaller but more important targets, mainly chaos and those who use the webway as guilliman would never be able to keep up with such a large force and normal means of travel

[@jasonparrish8670]

I would see The Lion becoming the bulwark against the next Black Crusade, grinding up every Astartes he can get his hands on and standing with the Grey Knights.

[@antmanthegnome]

I think, and hope, the High Lords will try to pit the two Primarchs against each other, only to have it blow up in their face.

[@TheKnizzine]

"EMPEROR FUCKING DAMN IT!!!"

[@majorgrumpybum3161]

he might just forest walk into the throne room, bypassing the high lords etc

[@Erebdai]

I wish Praetor Mathew were alive to see the Lion. He definitely looks like Twin Lannister with a beard.

[@frankzappa9853]

I think so far the return of the lion has been under whelming. But your right reading about his return to Terra will be fun so will seeing him talk to his brother but most of all I want too see him take back Caliban myself I can't imagine he would leave his homeworld under chaos control.

[@adamm2091]

I need the meeting so badly

[@thijshagenbeek6554]

What I am still abit sad about is that Johnson has become slower and feels older without a significant increase in his mental fortitute or situational awareness. The Lion was the keenest sword on the battlefields during the crusades. Nothing but the Ten-Thousand could outmatch the singular force of the 1st and its Primarch in whatever nature the battle of the time would be. The Lion and his Legion where a singular force, brought to bear on the most horrific enemies the great crusade could offer to its finest warriors. Yes the Lion can now walk trough the warp, I dont like that one bit. Thats a abillity that should beyond doubt go to Corvus Corax when he returns. Johnson and his sons are Knights in shining armour with the minds of judges and the hearts of Lions. Men who's lives Johnson valued but was not afraid to spend, but only at the highest possible cost to the adversary. His mere presence is terrifying, almost anathema to those who would do wrong, now who would do wrong ..? The Inquisition, The Eclisiarchy, organisations that exchange human life as a currency so inflated it would baffle even Perturabo. These are the foes the 1st of old will eventually face once the Legion has been reassembled and Leviathan has been ground to dust like the Rangda in ages past. Nothing ever survived or escaped the 1st. If the 1st and its Liege wish for your eradication you will not get away, the legion has a honour roll bigger then any other to prove that you cannot hide. So Terra had better take note and get itself in order and up its efficiency levels, Johnson afterall does not suffer fools for long.

[@ksl4044]

im no lore extraordinaire but i do think there is reason to believe that girlyman's and the lion's returns so close to eachother within the lore are going to be used as narrative vessels for the traitor primarchs to start actually doing something, events that eventually lead up to the return of atleast one if not more of the assumedly still alive, loyal primarchs, be it the khan or vulkan or potentially even russ or corax, etc. cause really i just dont think it makes sense to only bring back two, if only girlyman was coming back that would have made sense to me narratively but to then bring back another one but stop there when the stories of the other 5 are either completely unknown or fragmented at best. i would also just like to see more of the traitor primarchs

[@fishescu]

I also expect the emperor to get a massive power boost as a result of the new level of fanatical worship he would get.

[@sneezingidiot301]

The Emporer did trust him most but because he's the Big E he doesn't tell anyone and lies about it while Gillman and The Lion try and meet up just keep missing each other like a scooby doo hallway joke

[@davidthomas2870]

Some of the high lords (or former high lords) might try to capitalize on the presence of a second primarch by trying to use him as a figurehead for an opposition faction...

[@FANATIC40k]

"This is getting out of hand, now there are two of them!"

[@manhunter433]

Ideally Lion El Johnson will be the Sword and Shield of the Imperium while Roboute Gulliman deals more with the administration and strategizing of the Imperium and its military forces.

[@danbrown2473]

Some are going to worry. Dark Angels history aside, they like there comfy lives. May find some resistance on some (Chaos influenced), planets.

[@pitmatix1457]

Where is the lore about Guilliman purge some of the high lords? I've missed this!

[@danbrown2473]

Lion: May I go into see my father?? Custodies: NO! Lion: OK, I will just go around this corner. Pay no heed the the magic forest growing there.

[@mikevasquez1103]

I want to see the Lion fight some Tyranids.

[@fostegg1]

I’d like to see a moment of weakness in gulliman as he meets the lion,The lion walks in roboute sees him a single tear trickles from his eye and the whisperd words MY BROTHER…..we finally have a chance

[@yomommashouse9594]

I hope we get them actually happy to see each other especially considering they both have felt alone since reawakening I really like the Lions answer when asked. "What I would not give for another loyal brother of mine,’ he mutters. ‘This is a heavy burden to bear alone." ‘Even Russ?’ Kai asks. The Lion thinks about it for a moment. ‘Even Russ.’

[@Ardrocasiph]

In the previuous edition of the lore, it was the Dark Angels and the Space Wolves who lifted the siege of Terra. Did GW retcon that ?

[@ElJorro]

I just want to see how Asmodai reacts.

[@maurogiusti695]

The High Lords: time to apply for another job.

[@Werrf1]

I don't see the Lion being in a hurry to return to Terra, especially not after the events in Lion: Son of the Forest. I see the Lion continuing to do his own thing out in Nihilus while Guilliman runs interference for him back on Terra. Guilliman's big problem has been that he can't be in two places at once - he can't both run the Imperial government _and_ be out on crusade at the same time. But the Lion doing what he does while Guilliman gives him political protection and backing? That's a potent combination.

[@judesheckelberg5135]

I wonder if he could forest walk The Rock anywhere in the galaxy, or if his newfound power has size limitations...

[@trajanleatherworks1816]

Its.....The Mega Powers! (90s Hulk Hogan & Randy Savage, tag team).

[@justinhhp87]

Guilliman sorted out most of the HLoT during the Hexarchy, hopefully it shouldn't be too much if a issue

[@Erikjust]

I think the population will be a bit mixed on his return. On the one hand hurray another of the Emperor´s sons has returned. But on the other hand there is a reason they say never meet your idol in real life. Gulliman brought changes to the imperium and not all of them was equally popular or welcome in the eyes of certain people. What changes will the Lion bring? Some might prefer it if the Primarchs had stayed away, that way you could still worship them, honor their deeds and follow their commands without having to actually obey them to the letter.

[@innokentiybredun6660]

I don’t think Custodies would trust Lion less than Guilloman, they definitely have gathered information as he got to Terra after the Siege… And don’t forget that Cowrwain (supposedly) rekindled the Astranomikon…

[@GI7GAM3SH]

I'd like to read about some formal apology or interaction with Logan and the wolves from the Lion on behalf of his sons actions during the Siege of Fenris System.

[@thomask5434]

The question is rather: How will the Dark Angels react. Renaming the fallen risen, finding out that parts of the Dark Angels hunted the Fallen down over 10k years. The last Novel with Cypher, where a Dark Angels Strike Team literally killed a Custodes just because he was in the way of getting to Cypher. Finding out that probably Luther still lives. After hearing all this, it could happen that we find out that the Fallen are actually mostly victims and the Dark Angels were TraItors, or at least a cabal of them. Its all possible and it will be interesting.

[@nicolasberg6828]

Well, no. The Lion started the attack on Caliban and draw this clear line - in his book one Fallen even described how the Lion cut his way through the DA who remained on Caliban. If the Fallen are mostly victims then - if you want to blame anyone but Luthor - the Lion himself is to blame. The 40k DA are a shadow of the First Legion, but they handle the Fallen problem exactly the way the Lion and the First Legion would have done it: unrelenting, secretly and crossing every line that needs to be crossed. The new Lion might not be happy with the way of the 40k DA, but they are the true sons of his former self

[@MWH12085]

The Dark Angeles (and "successor chapters") will fall in line. You honestly think any of them will go against the orders of their Primarch? They'll most likely have their own issues with it, but not voice it

[@thomask5434]

@@MWH12085It isn`t the first time space marines go against their Primarch. His whole story is about a third of his legion going against him. i just say most of the fallen were innocent, and the dark angels just killed a custoed in the cipher novel trying to kill cypher. Their is some alpha legion shit going on here.

[@thomask5434]

@@nicolasberg6828 Killing custodes? Seriously?

[@MWH12085]

​​@@thomask5434Did you miss the part where the vast majority of the Fallen had no idea of what Luther was up to? Clearly Luther didn't care either and was a salty bitch. Any discontent was largely Luther's doing We're not talking about Angron and the World Eaters. The Lions Primarch aura is intact and his special Primarch ability is to get people to do whatever he says. Alpha Legion? I guess you also missed the part where the Dark Angles were the only Legion that couldn't be successfully infiltrated so I seriously doubt they know anything beyond educated guessing. Abaddon basically figured out the whole fallen thing with a few educated guesses and was finally confirmed at Caliban.

[@twatmere9726]

High Lords: Oh shit...which one do we follow? Militarium: Ima go with Lionel Administratum: Ima go with big G Assassinorum:....I...I'll go to Lionel... *whisphers* (and report to Gulliman if he tries anything) Miliatrum: What? Assassinorum: Nothing Mechanicum:...Most beneficial Primarch is....Gulliman. Logic has spoken! Sororitas: Oh my throne *ahn~* *Meanwhile Lionel* Lionel: I feel pride, betrayal, insult and discomfort all at the same time... Ecclisiarch: Oh my throne *ahn~* *Lionel's mind* :Dont punch the holy priesty diddler, don't punch the holy priesty diddler, don't punch the holy priesty diddler

[@STSGingie]

I could see the Lion Forrest walking into the Throne Room, dealing with the custodes and communing with his father. He does not want fanfare, adulation, or worship as far as I can tell.

[@Hungry_Bert]

I can't see the Custodes letting all those Unforgiven into the palace.

[@huntergallatin6758]

Just going to go out on a limb, he's going to give the spear to Sanguinius then use the emperors blood in the chalice to awaken him. I don't think that dream in arks of omen was just saying he needed to save the blood angels chapter master. I think the imperium NEEDS a holy trinity of primarchs bc let's be fair if any one chapter is the best at fighting tyrinids its blood angels, lion can suplex any of chaos champions, and Robby G. Can double down on focusing on the imperium.

[@darkhighwayman1757]

Put papa Smurf in charge of fixing how f'd up the Inperium currently is and the the Lion rip the enemies of the Imperium apart.

[@ffejpsycho]

Yeah, "letting Guilliman run the show" sounds exactly like what the Lion would do.... Wait... I mean the complete opposite of that....

[@gareth0412]

The Lion will be responsible for the emperor's return. He already has access to the portal realm, a place where he is in contact with a fragment of the emperor's soul or his avatar. We don't know the range of this forest dimension but I have a feeling the emperor is in control of it and will summon the lion when the lion has figured out the key to the emperor's return. I imagine the emperor will warn his companions before the lions arrival. Well I hope so I don't want the lion to have to fight his way into the throne room. The Lions main obstacle will be the Gman, Roboute is afraid of what the emperor has become and has been warned that the man that sat down might not be the one that rises. The Lion won't listen to Gmans Reasoning if he thinks the Emperor has set him a task. I CANNOT WAIT OMFG HURRY UP MIKE BROOKS!!!

[@joshfinch7041]

Administratom noted a up tick in volunteers when lion shows up so they run with it? Lol

[@TheSpicyLeg]

By getting out the amasec imo

[@starwolf7365]

Better question. How will they handle two more primarchs returning.

[@andrew1230981]

Alternatively the Dark angles vs the monitor’s under the lion.

[@drunknnirish]

The DA would win that fight with ease. They could do it without the Lion let alone with him.

[@darthimperius2865]

i wonder what would happen if the Lion found out what his chapter did on Vraks, you know screw over everyone then just leave like nothing happend

[@Texmex361]

I’m sure Gman will think it’s a trick of Magnus at first

[@jacobmosovich]

Big G is filing reports sees a report that Big L returned. Smiles and keeps filing paperwork lol

[@orekutlesic4831]

I think custodes know what Lion dis during Heresy, and they know of the fallen for sure.

[@dominictaylor8672]

The real question is wat would the lion do if cypher turned up ?

[@willmosse3684]

Could there be a second heresy? Could one of the returned Primarchs turn traitor?

[@samhobbs9116]

Just picture the scene in SW:EP1 when the separatist leaders are like "now there are 2 of them". That is what is going to happen.

[@bradleyhall1815]

Good news is i cant think of any Primarch who would care less about how people in power feel about his return than El'jonson.

[@TheFaulkned]

The ][nquistion watches everything. But in the long game they will accept Johnson and support a remade dark angels. Bit will be rocky at first but as time goes on the dark angels will prove themselves

[@tonytony7756]

Starwars " now these two of them"

[@mykelengieza7057]

ALGORITHM

[@user-ik6kb7bw7v]

There are going to be scared of him the Lion is the emperor's exterminator loyalty is it's on reward

[@rabbitsnraygunswithgregsch7648]

Has he met with the Emperor yet?

[@laviljoski6952]

Lion lets goooo

[@kayvaanmcsharrowkyn6901]

HE IS THE PRIMARCH OF THE FIRST!!! EVERYONE KNOWS WHO THE LION IS

[@sorkeror]

i belive that, The Lion is a bigger threat to the high lords than Roboute, because I don't think that he will follow the codex astartes, he will probably gather all DA successor chapters as one and he is less mercyful than his brother, he is The Emperor's ultimate sanction, the exterminator.

[@nobodycares6633]

I realy hope the humanity will put a real fight agains chaos, the OGs wont just throw astra militarum to die for no reason. Imagine good leadership with the resources of 40k empire. Just wow,

[@sebbonxxsebbon6824]

Bring back all of the loyal Primarchs! Clone them if necessary, make ALL of them include of the traitors, armies of them!

[@wchamp170]

One visit from the LION, the will BEG to work with BOBBY G

[@Just_Pele]

I don't see a lot of backlash or questioning, certainly not in the open. If level-headed, diplomatic, Guilliman would kill bloody Lords of Terra to cement a smooth transition, what do you think the Lion would do if questions were raised about his loyalty and commitment to the Imperium? 🤨 To say heads would roll while he cleans house would be a great understatement. He may be more mellow and forgiving in his obvious maturity, but he will not abide any notion raised that he was a traitor or heretic, whether by Lords of Terra, other chapters, or even the Custodes themselves. Want to know how many of the golden boys a top-tier, warrior Primarch can kill in one fight? That's how you do it.

[@justinhessey9032]

Hey everyone, ro lord wuff heree

[@andrewbyrne2173]

I’m hoping Lion goes up against the inquisition.

[@Bananaskin101]

I'm hoping he rebuilds his Legion and the Inquisition tell him "You can't do that". He replies "Watch me" 😆

[@georgijcaikovskij5623]

@@Bananaskin101 They will kill him without big problem (simple ship sabotage in the warp)

[@B1ackWolf]

​@@georgijcaikovskij5623Ahh, yes, kill the teleporting primarch without much problem. I'm sure that's going to happen.

[@hakon5473]

I dont think The Lion will return immediately to Terra. I believe he will stay with Roboute and help clear out Imperial Nihlius and secure it. I can see Roboute and Lion to return to Terra together. What better statement to the high lords and other powerful people within the Imperium that The Primarch's are united and that they have no choice but to fall in line.