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[@KyleMerl]

lol it's funny how you guys responded. I worked a job where they did the same thing to us and we learned that it doesn't pay to over-achieve. We learned that it's best to keep their expectations of us as low as possible, which can be tough because I grew up on the principal that I should always do the best that I can. It's funny how corporate America works, isn't it?

[@tarantulady8565]

Kyle Merl A good work ethic isn’t rewarded anymore at large companies.

[@johnhansen4794]

Exactly, Imagine how those boys would have responded to a free pizza thank you. Leadership is the art of creating an environment in which the followers WANT to help the leader succeed. It is the reason most businesses fail. Definitely what is wrong with where I work, most of the employees HATE the company. Good job management.

[@maryb1686]

same thing on my job, they are always raising the job expectations and we finally wizened up. They don't endorse personal success, that is for sure

[@MRSketch09]

@@tarantulady8565 You got that right! It just gets shoved up your pooper more.

[@canaan5337]

Those big corporations want to squeeze as much work out of you as they can while paying you as little as they can get by with since their game is getting the maximum amount of work for the minimum amount of money as an employee your goal should be to do the bare minimum you will not be rewarded for exceeding expectations if you make way more than your quota they'll just give you a new higher quota and the same old pay because the employer-employee relationship is not one of mutual benefit instead it's exploitative the employer reaps the benefit of the hard work of the employees and in exchange pays them as little compensation as possible to maximize the profit they get to keep for themselves and those are the ones that still have their operations in the United States a lot of big corporations of decided to move their operations overseas where there's more poverty so people are willing to work for cheaper and fewer labor laws so people are easier to exploit

[@rondunn9398]

The same thing happened to my wife. Being a professional seamstress she got hired at a uniform company and had a quota of 800 units sewing tags and name badges on the shirts. She got really good at her job and was sewing something like 1600 units a day. One day she came to work and received a notice that her new quota was now 1600 units a day. Well it so happened that the union went out on strike so she walked out with everyone else. But what happened was that when the replacements came in it took three girls to sew the same number of garments that she was doing by her self. The company finally busted the union and vowed not to hire back any worker who walked out. About a month after the strike was finally over she got a phone call the head of personnel asking her if she would stop by the office, they would like to talk to her. When she arrived at the meeting, the head of personnel, the floor supervisor & the company president were all together in the room. T%hey wanted to ask if she was willing to come back & resume her old job. It turns out that they still had 3 ladies doing the job that she did by herself & they still hadn't lowered the quota. It was costing them quite a bit more in labor since she had left and they wanted to get the cost down. She politely declined and told them exactly why. If they couldn't appreciate her & the work she had done for them back then, what made them think that they would appreciate her now!

[@scrider8464]

Bravo for your wife! How ignorant the loyal leaders are, how clueless about human soul. How did they get to the top and wreck the ship? Similar event with my wife, begged for one more nurse to work with her. Nope, not in the budget, impossible, no-way etc. She quit and the night supervisor had to fill her job. Well, after a week or two; hospital hire not one, but three additional nurses. Magic expanding budget. No money for one but money for three.

[@stefanodogg280]

These businesses are doomed, they simply do not know it yet

[@saxonsoldier67]

The Peter Principle is alive and well in both public and private management.

[@witgangyounotube287]

every company nowaday's is geared towards efficiency, how efficient a company is is measured by NIPE(net income per employee), in my country there is one company with about 6k workers that makes 20k euro/year profit per worker yet more than 70% of them are paid minimum wage which is about 600 euro/month.

[@davidvanniekerk3813]

Dankie/ Thx Ron. I've read that same sting in the Afrikaanse version of Dale " Carnegies " book of +/-1936. In a M-degree module it was also told of inter-groups and how it can very negative of a company. In the movie "the Patriot" of Mel Gipson. There is a brilliant English commander, but his way of doing things let to more Colonialist rebelling and let to beginning of America. That Manager was in reality a Damager.

[@jtdavies3]

I'm 59, and I'd do it now. I guess inside I'm still 18.

[@Antoninorosetta]

@John Davies I'm 79 years old going on 16!!!!!

[@GriffinBenchmark]

Amen John! The only question that kept running through my mind was whether or not that factory still exists over there where he worked? Now I'm going to have to Google it! 😊

[@p.chuckmoralesesquire3965]

Nah man, that just makes you a reasonable human and not a coward who grovels to power.

[@living-wellon-less5669]

No, I retired from General Motors and it is a common problem between management and labor, you do a good job and they repay you by making you do more of it without so much as a thank you!

[@teeroux]

Part of having a good job, is being appreciated in some form for good work put in. I would definitely do it.

[@eversmanfamily]

Exactly what my husband says everyday about his factory job. Thankless and they always want more. He really loves us to keep doing it everyday.

[@dogma7911]

He's a lucky man to have such an appreciative wife.

[@eversmanfamily]

Bruce Lawrence. No, he is faithful and trustworthy. We've been married too long to have to think about that.

[@troyroperiii5698]

I think a lot of employers don’t value their employees and so they get less production out of them. Your story is a perfect example, thank you for sharing

[@gaylenewood7707]

Troy Roper III Well just like youtube they dont value their creators like they should but instead treat them like an old shoe and not pay em in order to keep em on youtube.

[@electric6877]

2gud4umenglez If what you mean by “old school” it’s either really really really old businesses which are almost non existent or some new small businesses. Back in the day when you could work at Sears and make a living doing that. It has all started to fall since the mid 50s 60s when big money in politics aka corruption became a thing.

[@Crazyreseller]

This is what happens when employers are too focused on reports and spread sheets where they lose sight of the big picture.

[@lukel3227]

Rob Bowman everyone is free to take a chance and start a business, 20bicks you pay the best more than the laziest people I was forced on make money not spread sheets . A union will hire you if you explain you want to make a nice spread sheet for them ,they like those things but a real business owner will say you will do what ?

[@wymershandymanservice9965]

Your story shows the stupidity of greed. Seen this very thing happen at a factory I worked at where they built Government Refueling hose. It was in the late 70s had a crew building these hoses that got very very good to the point they were averaging $100 a day. The company didn’t see the fact that the hoses made beyond the rate were actually the cheapest hoses they paid for. They raised the rate actually cutting the money they were paying this crew. But in the process of this they had foolishly told the customer they could increase the monthly quoted hoses to them. It was hard work and without the incentive the crew started moving to other jobs. This in turn got the company in a supply problem with customer to the point of loosing that contract plus a fine for non fulfilling the contract. Greed is a terrible thing

[@isaacmercado7216]

Also a union job. A real shame what you ppl did to collective bargaining

[@wymershandymanservice9965]

If you feel unions are the way to go you have problems to start with. But that being said the concept was good until they started protecting lazy workers. No one has a problem with fair and decent wage. But you should still earn your money. Companies are now more likely to kept wages competitive to keep unions out. Besides why would anyone want a union job when you can have your own company?

[@ricdonato4328]

Brian Wymer’s Handy Man Service: In the English language there is not the word loosing. The word you desire is losing as in lose and lost. Loose and loosing is all to often used by many folks for lose and losing; recall loose is something not tight.

[@wymershandymanservice9965]

Ric Donato that’s great but didn’t know it was a spelling competition. I’ll agree it was not the best proofread on my behalf. I use the dictation on my IPad. And usually read it over before I hit send.

[@jeromeduffy9270]

@@ricdonato4328 That's what you gleaned from that. WOW. Any miztakes?

[@ReptileNexus]

That is the problem with being too efficient in a factory...they see it as you making them more money, and expect it. I became a line lead/part stocker at a factory. The line was always stocked with parts, my area was organized and sorted, and I found myself with time to sit and watch the line run. That was not ok with management...and they started having me pull parts for areas I wasn't at all familiar with. Basically...I was so good at my work, they made me do other people's work too!

[@MRSketch09]

Jesus Christ I can relate to this... where I work at I try to throw out a few random "I need help"..which throws management off their game... but I also throw in a few situations where I can help out co-workers to throw them off as well. Because if they see me staying in one spot too long, I just get screwed & they dump more work on me. I'm just paid by the hour. I don't get bonuses for being more productive. I just get screwed for being more productive.

[@scrider8464]

Ha! I love it! How to throw cold water on top worker. Crazy.

[@OutdoorLance]

Hard work doesn't pay off they just come to expect it.

[@stefanodogg280]

Only if you are self employed

[@duartduplessis1046]

That is so true

[@bighammer587]

Lance Marshall I don’t believe that for a minute. Keep on being a slacker...

[@OutdoorLance]

@@bighammer587 I'm by far a slacker but I'm glad you seem to know so much about me.

[@mattlane2282]

It is i true, one job I had I was every last day...5 min late. I got paid for those 5 min but I was always 5min late... the days I came in on time the bosses were like WOW your on time today... I reversed how things should work lol. Rather than me being late getting noticed me coming in on TIME was noticed. I also was the highest paid person there (doing the same work) everyone else was always EARLY lol...

[@Litcott]

I'm a supervisor at a grocery store and it's the same story. Closing shift and it's slow, so you get all the closing duties done early and get bored so you do something extra just to stay productive? Management decides that something extra should now be added to the standard closing duties and the extra work becomes too much to get done on a normal night that isn't slow, so you get chewed out the next day for not getting all your responsibilities done. Going above and beyond these days always seems to result in punishment.

[@sigismundafvolsung5526]

Same thing here. I'm a dishwasher at a restaurant. The dish guys are always the last people to leave at closing to begin with. One slow day, when both the second dishwasher and I were on form, we finished about half an hour early. Management decided to start scheduling one of us to come in an hour later and also gave us the added responsibility of sorting every dish and utensil in the restaurant. There was no way in the world we could attend to these new responsibilities the next day when it was a busier shift, ended up finishing up two hours late, and got scolded for it.

[@scrider8464]

I wonder what school of business these guys go to? North Korean School of Business Management? Maybe from shirts higher up; the ones who see you as slaves and sole goal to pump the shareholders.

[@mattlane2282]

just someone looking for a raise "look i got production up and saved us money"

[@jonathanallen1621]

Similar stories at UPS when I was 19 and 20. I would always have the highest numbers on the line and I'd get complained that the one time I was late by 2 minutes. While everybody else could go take eight minutes smoke breaks whenever they really feel like after getting not that much done. I looked at my supervisor and dared him to write me up. I had the letter typed and in my glove box ready to go. when they finally promoted me to supervisor I walked in that afternoon and gave them the letter and quit. Had to accomplish my goal before I left

[@andy72xbox]

That's a nice big F YOU to the man! I like it!

[@janmalosh1822]

Jonathan Allen q

[@kasedillla9811]

ups is a joke... I worked there for a couple of months one year when work got slow at my normal job. took them two months to finally get me my FIRST PAY CHECK... yes, FIRST... every week they kept coming up with new excuses as to why they couldn't cut me a check... I originally was hired for one shipping terminal, and was transferred before I even started to another and they somehow couldn't figure out how to cut me a check... so I got my first check finally, got the call back to my normal job and told ups if they didn't have the rest of my money by the end of next week I was going to sue them. funny how they somehow figured out how to cut a check for all of those hours so quickly by the next week.

[@scrider8464]

Ha! Remember the times when "smoke breaks'" were seemingly sacred as time off for church; look for someone to help with task and yep, on smoke break. If you didn't smoke, whoa, don't you be sitting with your feet up for one second outside of your reg am and pm break.

[@tastiger91]

The old smoke breaks were a classic, then it was the alcoholics that never turned up on mondays cos of their weekend binge. Rarely had a sick day and they still ragged on me, those were the days.

[@dougdavey9782]

If you get “laid off” and someone else is hired to do what you did, you were fired. IMHO

[@redbearpreparedness2882]

That's a great story. They certainly didn't pay you any more for exceeding the expected rate, but you did it on your own, because you became more efficient and took pride in your work. The moral of the story is "You get more hubs manufactured with honey, than vinegar." My dad always paid his workers a dollar more than union scale, and he had the best crew in town. James 5:1 Come now, you rich, weep and howl for your miseries which are coming upon you. 2Your riches have rotted and your garments have become moth-eaten. 3Your gold and your silver have rusted; and their rust will be a witness against you and will consume your flesh like fire. It is in the last days that you have stored up your treasure! 4Behold, the pay of the laborers who mowed your fields, and which has been withheld by you, cries out against you; and the outcry of those who did the harvesting has reached the ears of the Lord of Sabaoth. 5You have lived luxuriously on the earth and led a life of wanton pleasure; you have fattened your hearts in a day of slaughter. 6You have condemned and put to death the righteous man; he does not resist you.

[@jeromeduffy9270]

That's all well and good on paper. But are you seriously suggesting American workers generally are being paid fair wages, without some pressure? And if that's true, then your Dad deserve praise. But it's not the norm. People these days are quoting the Bible when it suits them only

[@1R0QU012]

I now work for a stupid supervisor. He has 1 year experience performing my job and he’s my super visor. My crew and I have a total of 30 years experience combined, 12-10-8 years respectively. The site record for running a piece of equipment was 51 days. My crew and I broke that record our first two months on site. Problem was bad chemistry and bad testing procedures, we brought our procedures over from a previous job site and improved operations. Given this success, I explained carefully to this supervisor that we are not his enemy and that we all work for the same team and there are additional improvements to be made that can reduce costs, etc, His reaction was to throw me off Plant site.

[@MRSketch09]

Basically you worked for someone who's ego was bigger than his brain. Sorry to hear that.

[@1R0QU012]

MRSketch09 Yeah, he’s literally got his old crew working against us now. So his crew is now walking around with an “us vs them” mentality. Hey bozos were on the same day, I say, I say, on the same team!! Guess when your entire identity is tied up in your 9 to 5 you’ve got nothing better to do than make it harder for yourself?

[@stevehernandez1500]

Sounds about right

[@gradywray5391]

That’s classic mega corporations anymore. You break your back for them and all they ever want is more from you. They just push you the other way. I’ve been in the same position. The funny part is I’d bet the new guys they got to do the job couldn’t make that quota. 150% efficiency and they still complain. Haha what a joke

[@wobblysauce]

Not the first story that, places have to higher more people than before just out of spite to do the same job as the ones before. Cant let the employees win now can you.

[@stefanodogg280]

IMO it's fear that you are going to replace your superiors so they get rid of you to protect their positions. Been there, done that

[@InsideOfMyOwnMind]

These idiots will look at that 30% drop and see it as a win because they got their way.

[@Cushingura]

Never do more then expected from you in a big factory. There is a reason why the coworkers get mad at you, when you are the new enthusiastic guy and you make more then the other coworkers. They know if you do these kind of jobs for years, you can't go 100% all of the time. A good boss also knows this. :)

[@indycharlie]

Always a BAD situations for the new guy on 30-120 day trial and the old timers . In truth most Mang. weren't idiots , they knew the deal !!

[@wobblysauce]

Yep, or the other way... they get someone out and do the job for x time 1-10min etc, fast but can they do it for a full work day every day?

[@prdoohan]

Man the english Union types are the worst for this stuff. "Hey new guy, slow down. You're making the rest of us look bad!"

[@AmericanSirenProductions]

Cushingura same with Retail

[@dannywilsher4165]

NO old guy... you are making yourself look bad because you are lazy!!!

[@OutdoorsWithShawn]

Like I tell my crew "Never work yourself out of a job." I've been let go for working too fast as well.

[@plaid13]

That is a perfect example of bad management. That kind of management can destroy a good job and lose money for the company. People work harder when they are proud of where they work and who they work for and if they think someone appreciates the work they do. If they would have just said hey good job keep it up I bet you would have gotten even better at it and they would have made more money for the company.

[@dancarlin5434]

Also a prime example of most management nowdays, they dont care how good their crew may be doing, heck a lot seem to act like they are threatened by their crew's doing well.

[@markbrayton5391]

I was employed for an electrical wiring device mfg. for 30 plus years. I started on a low end job and worked my way up to a supervisor, manager and inventory control manager in the distribution department. I treated everyone fairly and judge people by their actions only. It has been almost twenty year since I worked there and occasionally I'll still have people who worked for me who greet me warmly. One think my wife and I did around Christmas was to bring in a turkey dinner for the night crew I was supervising. I learned that from a good Christian friend that was very skilled with people, he's been a pastor now for many years. I just thought that I would share that story. It really matters how you treat people and what you will reap in return.

[@alpine1600s]

Yeah, raising that quota was BS. Whoever did that needed to be fired. Instead of the one under you should have met the old quota, or demanded a raise.

[@Biscuitchris7again]

The guy that upped the quota was probably a collage gradiate. [sic]

[@CemeterySunshine]

That would fire like 80% of management in most jobs.

[@alpine1600s]

It's all contractual. The medium was 800, so the contract was signed to supply said number. So for them to justify raising the quota, either they raised the number in the contract, which is doubtful, or they just got greedy.

[@paulrice1918]

Again thank you for your honesty. It is a shame that if your team could exceed an agreed on amount of production that you were not honored in some way but were punished by an increased demand. My first job was picking strawberries. The agreed on amount was 10 cents a quart. After a couple days the owner realizing I could pick so many more than the rest lowered my pay to 8 cents a quart. What an incentive to lower production.

[@swamprat69er]

A good incentive to eat more berries. 2 for me, 1 for you.

[@chou1234chou]

Paul Rice q

[@BillTheTractorMan]

I worked for a family run fabrication shop that did the same thing to me. I was alone running an entire department of 4 machines. I was part of a group of 5 people who worked 16hr days to get the company back in the black and having a record year surpassing 3million in sold parta. At the end of the year they sent us all packing and hired twice as many guys at cheaper wages. Over time was no longer allowed also. Now that company is scalling back and maybe only reaching a million in orders a year. The owner still complains to a friend of mine about how he cant find reliable and skilled workers. Across the road another family shop pays better and has almost no turn over rate.

[@pughconsulting]

It's expectation creep. Good managers keep expectations realistic and in balance.

[@scrider8464]

Lord, ever had to do projection? In your dreams you fancy a 6 percent increase, but dreamer you; pitch an 8 percent increase. You lay out your day dream and at the end, you don't get an "atta boy"; boss says, "Get me 13 percent" That is then the new goal! Dream of you could make 8, but you are dead anyway for failure to meet expectations.

[@alabama7636]

This is exactly the reason why manufacturing is so expensive, there is no reward for exceeding production goals. A member of my church worked as a temp for GM some years back and the “ incentive “ was that if you did really well that after 90 days you would be hired on full time, long story short as he observed some of his fellow temps did just enough while he worked very hard and at the end of 90 days nobody got hired full time regardless of their productivity.

[@TheScottBonnar]

Many years ago I worked as a supermarket stock filler and our ''incentive'' to work hard and not run into overtime was if we were really good our supervisor would be rewarded with a cruise trip.

[@alabama7636]

“ Hope deferred makes the heart sick “ Proverbs.

[@eponymousjones6590]

So many commiserating stories in the comments. Too often, a small person is given the big responsibility of supervising others. They can't lead and inspire and respect their team. So they micromanage and judge and demoralize them.

[@mechanicmike2858]

That's kinda what Ford has done to us techs the recent door latch recalls used to pay 3.9 hours they have reduced it to 1.5 hours less then half just because we can do them faster then the original time ... but I thought that's was the how we make a living !!!

[@MichiganFordDriver]

not to be a stickler, but how long does it take you to do the job? if it takes you 3.9 hours and you are getting paid for 1.5 that is wrong, but if you are taking 1.5 and they pay you for 3.9 that is also wrong. I am sure that Ford has an entire team to decide how much time it takes to swap a part in which they have a technician perform the task and then pay based on that.

[@mechanicmike2858]

@@MichiganFordDriver most auto techs work on a pay scale that is called flag hours if a job pays 1.0 hour that's is what we get paid no matter how long we are on it if we can beat the time then its money in our pocket if it takes us longer then the flag time then we only get the flag time .. but to reduce the time to save them money that is not right it shouldn't matter if we get good at it that's called being proficient in what we do but to reduce the time just to save money isn't right

[@MichiganFordDriver]

you did not answer my question, you ignored it. I understand how the payment for these kind of jobs work, having been part of some studies regarding part change studies myself. I guess what I am saying is that that change was not made arbitrarily. Ford found that the rate originally quoted, 3.9 hours, was significantly higher than it actually took to do that job and in doing so performed the study and found that 1.5 hours should be sufficient time to complete the task. it is not unreasonable to expect that a person only gets paid for what they work.

[@mechanicmike2858]

@@MichiganFordDriver I think my quickest time is .8 on a 1.5 paying job yes I made money but that's not the point if I only broke even then I wouldn't be good at my job

[@mechanicmike2858]

And if we are not on a job we dont get paid anything.. but we still have to be at work ..but that's the deal

[@eddiecarlcalhoun]

I TALKED TO A GUY YESTERDAY WHO HAS A BOSS WHO TOLD HIM TO STOP WORKING SO HARD AND DOING OTHER PEOPLES WORK.... NUTS!!!!!

[@628DirtRooster]

My story of the only time I was fired is similar in so many ways. I was young, cocky and good at my job and had made the company I worked for big bucks (about twenty five times my salary) over the ten months I had been with them. They showed their appreciation with a $100 Christmas bonus. My work flow locked up after that. I ended up getting fired after telling the company owner to give me a raise or fire me. LOL Looking back I'm glad they let me go but it sure was a humbling experience. I see the company secretary around town from time to time and I still feel embarrassed about how I left. She now has my old job.

[@maxst2]

doesn't pay to overachieve unless they pay for the extra performance. Otherwise stick to the expectations.

[@MarcoTedaldi]

A good example of how to not handle your employees. But I guess they did not learn the lesson!

[@twotonanchor]

I had a job once building pre-made fence panels. My job was to cut the dog ears on the pickets, over and over and over and over....soul-killing indeed.

[@Femmpaws]

Great story Cody. I was fired from a job building fiberglass truck canopies making min-wage. I was fired, then Ted the office manager was fired three weeks later, then Ed fired the last employee about the same time. The word got out Ed treated people poorly, he couldn't get anyone to stick around more than a week or so. After the core people that knew the tasks were gone there was no one there to teach the new hires how to do the tasks. I went by the shop about three months later, it was gone. I went looking for Ted to talk with him, Ted found a bunch of money miss management going on, when Ted asked about it, he was blamed and fired for it. After Ed fired me a week later I went to work welding for 10 dollars an hour to start, sure beat 3.65 an hour.

[@dananelson3534]

Was terminated from my last job for getting injured at work. They could have accommodated me and I even called them to explain, but was told their policy was I had to be able body. That was to guard the hospital entrance sitting at the information desk. A job anybody could do, from 9 to 5 at night.

[@86blejd]

A great story every time. One of my favourite KZbin'ers. Keep it up Mr W.!!!

[@Brantley169]

Mr. W is a good story teller.

[@86blejd]

He almost as good as my grandad was. Very good story teller.

[@01AceAlpha]

Have friend who grew up on a farm. He became a certified welder and worked for John Deere fabricating loaders for tractors. He was too productive apparently and the union thugs told him to slow down and take more coffee breaks. The factory is now in Mexico and no one has a job anymore!!!

[@jazzhands4274]

If they raised your quota you should have asked for a raise.

[@ianstradian]

Hey Wranglerstar I have a funny one. As a Merchant Marine I’ve worked on several vessels as an engineer. On one of these vessels I witnessed the deck crew on their cleaning duties performing an odd task. This was a spotless vessel, the brass gleamed, the stainless was mirror polished, the floors waxed and buffed to a dangerous shine. The crew was proud of their second home, and it showed. A new 2nd Captain was assigned to the vessel and he was an older gentleman from a old school style of leadership. He would place pennies around the vessel in odd places and if he went back and found that penny he would raise heck because the deck crew hadn’t cleaned properly. But the deck crew was way way smarter. They would find all the pennies and shine them till they looked like they had been just minted. They nicknamed this “the penny brigade “ When the old gentleman figured out what was going on he added twice the number of pennies, this escalated until there were pennies everywhere, and the deck crew would polish each and every one. Towards the end of the cruise they even started replacing the pennies with dimes, or superglueing the coins in place. Finally the old gentleman had had enough, and at lunch with 80% of the crew in attendance he blew up. Ranting about the pennies. The Master of the vessel, and the entire crew laughed at him so hard,,, he gave up his penny brigade. From then on the old salty gentleman of the sea got on well with us all, he relaxed and finally figured out he was working with a professional crew.

[@jerrettfeatherston3517]

When people or companies that treat people like that, justice is always good to see. I remember a friend telling me about a actor being harassed by a person, about so much violence in his movies, his response was the movies were not about violence but justice.

[@u.f.osarechariots9785]

When I was 17 I was fired from my first job for using the restroom 2 minutes before my lunch break. The embarrassing part was they couldn't even tell me but yet they informed my ex's uncle who in turn informed my girlfriend at the time. I was so innocent yet hardworking, never understood it till this day. Funny thing is everyplace that gave me a hard time without reason ended up closing down shortly after.

[@bowshott007]

I learned the same lesson when I was that age. The company I worked for only gave raises the friends and family members. They even fired individuals for any reason imaginable if we made the “uppers” look bad.

[@IM1GUNRUNNER]

Starbucks can suck my liver.

[@machinist7230]

See, this is why getting paid per piece, sometimes makes sense - Lincoln Welders did it at one time in one of their factories in the 90s, setting the price paid to each worker at around 2/3rds of what each task cost them. Production rates shot up, costs dropped, and many of the employees made more money, while the slackers were motivated to seek employment elsewhere, mitigating unemployment costs to Lincoln.

[@RonaldJS]

Never let management know what your capable of or they will expect it all the time, only a fool works harder than he has to.

[@prdoohan]

Where's the fun in that? Do your best and learn everything you can. Before long you might find your superior is threatened by how much better you could do their job. Then you apply for their level job at another company and quit. Keep moving up.

[@CemeterySunshine]

@@prdoohan Unless he writes up everyone who is under him and now you can't move up for a year. Group write ups are a handy tool for them because when they call your previous employer they can just lie about you with 0 repercussions.

[@prdoohan]

@@CemeterySunshine So move companies. Employment law where you are is probably different to where I am. Group write ups are not a thing here. They can only give written warnings etc on an individual basis. Besides, who uses their current employer as a referee on job applications??

[@exploreoutdoors3978]

i think this is only mostly true for factory assemble style jobs

[@DavidLLambertmobile]

I worked for 2 low life slum lord hotel guys in downtown Orlando FL about 8 years ago. I'd have junkies pimps gang members etc to deal with all night. 😕 The next day, the mgr would ask about dirty trash cans or paper towels in the lobby rest rooms. 😡

[@craigsudman4556]

I'm 64 years old and have had six careers in my time, never had a factory job, but I've never been appreciated for what I have done for my employers. The only time that I have been appreciated was when I ran my own business as a home remodeler. The one rule that I have discovered to be true, when working for others, is that there never enough time to do the job right the first time, but ALWAYS plenty of time to go back and do it again. That drives me up the wall! Thumbs up.

[@Spacemonkeymojo]

This is exactly what happens in most jobs, it doesn't even have to be labour related. You could be in an office and get all your work done, but instead of getting a reward or being allowed to go home, you will get given more work and you won't always get compensated for it.

[@pauljs75]

Some pipeline jobs will get annoyed if you work too fast, because there's nowhere to keep the excess. So you'd have to keep it in some margin where you avoid that or backlogs. Also it takes pacing, since if you do the amount early and stop there it doesn't look good if you wait around to milk the clock.

[@NGMonocrom]

Let me guess.... They raised the quota, but not your hourly wages. That's how it is. That's why guys who get a quota are smart enough to not put in their best effort. They put in just the bare minimum because they don't want what happened to you guys to happen to them. So once in awhile they come in just under quota, hit the quota, maybe just a bit over it (like 5 - 9 units over). And how stupid were you're bosses? They have employees happily producing more than they expect, so instead of just leaving you guys alone to do so; they raise the quota. And they couldn't put themselves in your shoes for just a second. "Gee if my boss did that to me, would I get ticked off and stop working as hard? Yup, I would! Better leave those 4 guys alone." Then guys like you get fired, they bring in new hires who can't even hit the old quota. brilliant!

[@gingerlundgren-barron3594]

I just got flashbacks from my ( ex) husbands job with a major electronic / install company.. He’d meet and excel the quota and then BAM they’d raise the quota... It was so infuriating, cause we got healthy bonus checks when quota was met 3 months in a row.... But the effort for getting those checks was excruciating for him and the family..

[@doghouse416]

I worked for a lawn spraying company in Florida for a couple years back in the 90's, the fellow I took over the route for gave me one simple bit of advice, he said "what ever you do,... DO NOT EXCEED the maximum amount of lawns that I have done (on a daily basis) because the boss will only want you to do more, and your pay won't increase at all....ever" so I never did more than he did, and all was fine, I gave a fairs day work for a "fair" wage, while the other guys broke their backs and got their "Top Shooter" award, a piece of paper......no bonus, no extra nothing.

[@jonathanallen1621]

I quit Jason's deli when I was 19. Boss said I was fired. Whatever.

[@monteprovolt2253]

Sawmills used to have contract green chains. The guys on the chain would get extra pay for anything over quota. There is no motivation like more money. If you reward behavior, you get more of it. (Good or Bad).

[@kasedillla9811]

moral of the story: A happy worker is a hard worker, and a hard worker is a productive worker. so keep your employees happy, and they will continue to make you money :)

[@axlent123]

Yes, I remember that you worked at Warn. I worked there temporarily... someone had to clean the restrooms... Thankfully it was a temp job!

[@armyguy9735]

As a teenager, I remember working at Pizza Hut for the lunch shift and dishwasher had quit that day. So as a good guy, I took the extra load of work until management could find a replacement but they never did. I remember asking, when would they find one, they would give excuses until they said point blank, they found someone very SPECIAL, ME. I quit that day, I felt so used.

[@funnyanimalshorts643]

Some people here seem to think most companies are like this. The biggest employer is small business. We care about you. We want to be fair to you because we want to get and keep good help. There is a hiring crisis right now and no one can find employees. These factories are soul-crushing money monsters that really don't care because unskilled labor used to be easy to find. If someone doesn't like it, who cares because there are 20 people ready to take his place. Unskilled labor will either kill your back or your brain with heavy lifting and tedious repetitive redundant tasks. Don't just make someone else rich by sacrificing yourself. Gain a skill or become an entrepreneur. I stopped working in boiler rooms to start my own company and I was immediately demonized by anyone who thinks all companies are souless and greedy. I was told by people in my life that money is the root of all evil. Well that misquote is actually the LOVE of money is the root of all evil. Money is a tool like a screwdriver. You can use it to fix a table or you can use it to poke someones eye out. You can use money to hurt or help someone. People need to quit blaming objects for their own actions. No, the music didn't make you do it, you have mental problems. No, the money didn't make you do it, what you did is on you. No, the gun doesn't make people kill. No england, knives don't need banning. Whats next? Sticks? The murder rate did not go down in australia, the suicide rate did not go down, they just used methods other than guns. You will hear people say 'the mass murder rate went down' but they neglect to tell you that in au there was a mass murder once every ten years and if you go 20 without one, its no big deal. Also that the amount of people murdered stayed the same. Gun accidents went down. They neglect to tell you that guns accounted for only about one percent of accidental deaths. Suicide by gun went down. But suicides didn't. Come on people quit falling for the 'companies are all greedy' and 'guns need to go' propaganda.

[@magicrobharv]

I got fired just one time from a job. It's liberating to realize the next day you wake up and you're still alive. It didn't kill you, it didn't crush you - I wasn't happy about it, but it was a lesson learned. I was naive about how things work in the real world. Full tuition paid at the School of Hard Knocks !!!

[@KoalityofLife]

Funny how some companies up your quota when you make it. It means you have to work even harder to make the new quota and often times you have to make quota to get a bonus. One way big companies can keep from paying out bonuses I guess.

[@ItsAdventureTime1]

Happens in my current job. I always laugh at the new guys that kill their quotas the first few months and get all this recognition. Around the 4th month you never hear of them again because their quota has been jacked up so high that they rank in the bottom.

[@Alec_Huizar]

Great stories amazing content consistent uploads no wonder you got to 1 million keep up the great work

[@mattone7458]

Never been fired...... yet lol

[@RavenJCain]

I had a job at a gun factory. We destroyed old, and oldish military rifles, then rebuilt them using the same parts minue the receivers. The sears they had made for the trigger housings of the G3 rifle was like 0.1 something too big on a surface. So one of us had to spend the entire day grinding sears on a grinder. Hundred of them. Same sometimes applied to the triggers. They were casted. I remember asking why can't management just ask them to correct the molds, after all, we were the customer. I honestly don't recall if I ever got a reply, but based on the bitter memory of it, to this day, I am guessing I never got a satisfactory answer.

[@TXSuburbanHomestead]

I'm a professor now, but I've had about a thousand jobs in industry over the years. Knock on wood, I've never actually been fired. Fired other people, but every time to this point in my life every time I've left a job, it's been voluntarily.

[@retiredusmc9090]

YT channel "Outdoors with the Morgans" is hosting a firewood stacking contest and mentioned you should send in some pics of your firewood stacks. His channel is all about tractors and cutting firewood, the contest is just photo entries and links like minded people who take pride in how they stack their firewood.

[@mkbcoolman]

Not exactly the same, but similar. I work in sales. I have a base salary that equals 75% of my expected compensation. The other 25% comes from my sales quota. I have exceeded my quota each of the last 4 years. Every year, they look at what I sold last year, and add 10% to that number. So I now have to sell triple the amount I sold the first year just to earn the same commissions. I love my job, and I love the people I work with, but corporate mentality forces a revolving door. The positive side is that for people who are proven performers, you already have options, so you can easily find another gig that either pays you more, or expects less production for the same pay (at least initially). Corporate America has things so screwed up...I just don't understand the mentality.

[@msheaver]

ROFLMAO!!! Yes, I would do that same thing, even now. I mean, you had a great team, you worked together well, and look at the planning and effort it took to come in consistently one count under quota. Nothing is more demoralizing than to put forth your best effort and get punished for it.

[@olswole3658]

At our factory they always put a guy on his way out to work on a specific machine in what affectionately became known as “farewell corner”

[@Cybeq]

As someone who has been continuously employed for 38 years with various companies and never been fired or laid off, I can say that if I had been the manager I wouldn't have told the crew that the quota had been raised. If I had been one of the workers I would have discouraged the team from outperforming management expectations.

[@blaineverhelle4104]

My experience was a little different I was 19 working as a certified mechanic at a Chevy dealership in Michigan. in 1984 things got tough, but I worked on commission and I was bringing home just north of 500 a week. One day the shop foreman called me into his office and explained to me that I was young and lived with my parents (which I did not)and that it was not fair to the men who had families to support weren't making as much as I was. So he said that he was going to set my rate at $5 per car repair that way he had more to pay to those who had families. My response that was we all make commission and their pay was based on their productivity so maybe he should be talking to them about their productivity well he did not like that response and told me to take the rest of the day off. I loaded up my tools and left he called me twice a day for two weeks asking me to come back.

[@blaineverhelle4104]

Good Idea, but We all worked commission so the irony of it was if they did not improve their production than they wouldn't see any of the savings of not paying me. this was just a way for the Dealership to have less payroll, and they thought I was to stupid to know that.

[@marnixhoebers5176]

Once employees become just a number, the morale at the company drops. Good employers retain employees and have a more efficient workforce. Resentful staff aren’t happy or efficient.

[@petebeasttexashomesteading]

Never ever exceed the company quotas, but you were young and it sounds like your supervisors were jerks too.

[@user-ch4dl7je9v]

If you come in one over they'll expect you to come in one over all the time, if you come in one under, they fire you for failure to meet their expectations.

[@RandyGrace]

This is the story of my life. If you're self employed, working harder results in more rewards. If you're working for someone else, working harder results in getting a higher quota assigned to you, and maybe getting a 25 cent raise once per year. I highly recommend trying to be self employed.

[@JasonExplainsThings]

You got fired from your own house and KZbin channel?!

[@GunnyNinja]

You mean you came here, commented, but didn't watch the video?

[@3rdcoastambit220]

Yep ran into that at my job. I've been night shift for 15yrs and all of us night shift guys are pretty good about getting our work done in about half a shift. So instead of just goofing off or watching tv we used to help out the next shift by getting their stuff prepped and setup. Corporate got wind of this and BAM now what was done out of goodness became mandatory. So now there's a very toxic dynamic at the company between night and morning shift. If you want to throw a rusty wrench into a well oiled machine let some corporate tool who's never been on the line start making policy. 🤬

[@jamessimpsoniii2029]

It pays to talk to older employees as they know the tactics of the button pushers. On the only manufacturing job I ever did I met Joe and he had worked at this sheet metal forming company for 31 years and was never promoted off the floor like the others. He informed us that quotas might get increased with new machines but never really exceed them due to productivity. I learned to look for these guys like Joe from dad and gramps. We never got upgraded and only when a quick order that payed extra for delivery date would we push and make a deadline. One crew took the incentive of completion ahead of due date and the last week me and a buddy worked their they had used the prior contract as a prototype productivity phase; needless to say I left before those new production levels really started to take a toll and my last day there saw two workers injured while trying to speed raw material offload for the steel used in appliance cord shields on the back of frost king fridges. Many incidents happened soon after and insurance costs and automation eventually laid many off and sadly now the the line is moving to Guam or Phillipines with bonuses for people to train replacements. Factories like you and many others worked for should play Pink Floyd Money 24/7 to remind the workers just what they signed up for.

[@TEEDUBS]

HELL YEAH I'd do it now. What they did was disrespectful. It's unfortunate that the way you were treated is now the norm; don't just appreciate your employees for the work they're paid to do, and when they enjoy working under you, set a higher standard at the same pay? NO. That's not how your treat valued employees. Big Corporate will never understand, because they still take home their bonuses even if it means laying off the backbone of their company and hiring cheaper labor (now overseas). It's sad to think that our once great Nation is run by underpaid offshore entities. Absolutely disgraceful.

[@JerodMatlock]

I would have brought you guys up on stage at the next company meeting and thanked you for exceeding the company’s already high expectations. The company would probably have gotten another 10% productivity out of your team and another 10% from most of the other teams. Expectations stay the same but the message is clear that the company culture awards exceeding expectations. I don’t blame you at all for attempting to make a statement in your own way. The company even then could have realized their error and attempted to make things right again. Pride prevents people from admitting their mistakes.

[@RealSuburbanCowboy]

This is a great story. You did exactly as you should have. Who really lost in that deal? Not you, #1 - you have a great story, #2 - you could go get some other meaningless job, #3 - they need to find someone who can now build 1200 of these per shift. As you said, a thank you would have gone a long way. Per usual, someone got greedy and they were rewarded with one of the best pay-backs I have heard of. Thanks for sharing!

[@tahwnikcufos]

At least you had a "we"... at my first factory job, standing out was frowned upon, to the point of verbal attacks and professional sabotage. "They're gonna make all of us work harder!" I was a temp, and wanted to be hired full-time; of course I'm going bust ass.

[@normjacques6853]

First, Cody, your daughter is positively precious!! At the same age you portrayed in your story, I've been known to do similar things....with similar results! I have to say, though, that it was absolutely worth it!! Many years later, I would be fortunate enough to own my own business, and kept the promise that you alluded to (treating employees with respect, and appreciating work well done). Without bragging about how that was accomplished, I can only say that it was a great feeling, customers were happier, employees were happier, quality of work was almost without equal, etc., etc. In short, amazingly enough, it worked!! Bean counters, and the fools that follow their advice, are ruining this country, and they're the reason that unions are necessary (without getting into THAT whole debate). Wouldn't you love to be in the audience, if such a thing could exist, for judgement day for bean counters, CEOs, etc.??

[@ChicagoTRS]

and then the stupid thing is whoever replaced you was probably down to making 800 a shift and they were satisfied with that.

[@michaeldalton8374]

At 19, I worked in a wheel factory. First year I worked sick on occasion. Came in during snow storms. Worked overtime every time they asked. Got the one year eval. Scale of 1-5, 5 being “excellent”. I got all 3’s. “Good”. You sure about this? Can’t do any better than what I did attendance-wise for a year. You sure?? “Yes”, they said. “It gives you room to improve next year.” I called in the very next night. “Your reason?” I’m only “good”, not excellent. That eval made my girl parts hurt. Take your pick. 😀

[@cheiften98]

i had a teacher who worked in a factory and he was 16 at the time, he achieved quota and was bought a bottle of whiskey.

[@tylerslater2012]

Goes back to that old saying " always give 50%, because if you give 25% you're having a bad day, if you give 75% you'll get a raise"

[@unlimitedpotential6573]

Used to be a time when we as men would brag about being the best "My company can't make it without me!" "I'm the best guy on the line"...(or the site, the crew, the mine... etc) And employers recognized, praised, rewarded it... what happened to this country?

[@MegaWeagle]

Simon Sinek talks about this a lot. This mentality started when big companies started having to show better bottom lines because of shareholders. It’s also around the same time that mass lay offs became the “only” way to “fix” the books. It really is a sad thing. He eventually gave an example of a company that gave the employees option to take less time to help manage there short falls. What they noticed was some employs who could afford the time off not only took it but gave above and beyond to other employs who couldn’t afford less time. What this caused was not only the company back in the green but a noticeable up tick in moral and productivity. Unfortunately most companies can’t see how taking care of their employees, creating a solid “culture” works better than this new way of work, work, work, huge layoffs.

[@ned7216]

Sad but the nature of any business is to always maximize profit, and the top cost is usually always labor. Always will be struggle form people in power to squeeze more out of less

[@lauriestlyon8773]

That's the trouble with corporate management no genuine appreciation for the people who actually make the beans they count! Bet they all had productivity bonuses though!

[@John-vd8jl]

Unfortunately this isn't an isolated incident. I have run into this type of attitude my entire life. Right now I'm working in the Bakken Oilfields and it is routine for companies to start shifts mid-week on Wednesday, when payroll ends at midnight on Saturday. So you start your shift on Wednesday, payroll ends on Saturday at midnight, oops, no overtime for you, or very little. Even though the people in these positions are the ones out in the rain, heat and cold everyday doing the work that makes companies money, people at the top simply don't care. They only care about making, er should I say faking, the bottom line and their bonuses. It is hard for me to admit, but, my attitude about work is: if you want me to do the job, pay me. Not going to pay me? Then get someone else, cause I'm not doing it. The first company I worked for out here treated the people working on the fracking crews this way, with their schedule, but there are drilling and other companies out here doing the same thing. When this company decided to change the truck drivers schedules to start mid week, they lost over 20 drivers in less than two weeks. Unfortunately the companies hire different people and carry on, they just don't care about anything except making money. So my two cents, treat every job like a paid training program for you, no matter what it is. Learn what you can, then take that knowledge and move upward and onward to better yourself, whatever that means to you for your wife and kids, so forth. We can all learn new things everyday, then apply these things in ways that count, by making your own life better. No matter what the M&M's think. God bless everyone! PS Nice video Cody, made me laugh, but the best part was watching "Sweet Loaf" eating at the end.

[@jeffarp7409]

My dad had a saying, (put out like you can hold out) this is my saying (the more you do the more they [your employer] want) this is truly a no win situation.

[@jerrybeck8812]

I was a sales manager at a new vehicle dealership for a while and we had sales quotas for the sales people. They were rewarded when they were met and another reward for higher sales numbers. Dangling a carrot works as long as there is another carrot to reach as well. But put the carrot too far and they will lose interest.

[@slopcrusher3482]

Never been fired from a job ( yet, I’m only 18 so it’s bound to happen) just had bosses cut my hours until I was essentially forced to quit

[@helidude3502]

I left my job at Uhaul because of a safety issue because of a "prank". Uhaul didn't take me seriously. Todd West told me that safety is a matter of opinion. It is a matter of law and physics. ( a little common sense also helps) I no longer work there, but the perpetrator still has his job. Many employers don't care, but many of the employees don't either.

[@tonymatthews445]

One of the lessons I remember from my grandad, was not to work faster than expected in situations like that.

[@richardmcelligott2881]

One of my college friends dad worked at the mill in Halsey. They were shutting the mill down so they could move to a more modern and productive mill in Springfield. They gave them the option to move to the mill in Springfield but some were up for retiring. Needless to say they gave the management the finger by completely surpassing the production of the new mill during the last few weeks or months of the mill operating they by leaving the bean counters to scratch their heads.

[@jeepdc1]

This story is a classic example of how most managers misunderstand human behavior. Not all workers are lazy. Most employees want to do good work, master their tasks, and earn their pay. Management destroys this intrinsic motivation and they are too stupid to realize they are doing it.

[@stephenalexander9558]

In reality..... all teenagers and people in their early 20's earn a better appreciation for any future jobs in their careers when one has a job history of such horribleness & tedious of long work day. One can then better appreciate all other jobs in their future career! The reality is all jobs has certain amount of being undesirable.... ARG! O:-)

[@jamesgarris289]

Kind of same, but different, worked for major passenger railroad back in the early 80’s. Guys who smoked could take smoke breaks as often as they wanted and nothing was ever said. Being a non-smoker a would stop on the way to, partsroom, tool room, restroom, etc., and chat for a few minutes. It never failed, just about every time the foreman, Garris quit f...king off and get back to work. Never a word to the guys smoking, well guess what, I started smoking and foreman never yelled at me again. I was maybe 20-21 at the time and have Mr. Reagan for budget cuts that cost me my job.

[@chrisbulldog1353]

I can’t say that I have never done anything like this to be young and know everything again lol

[@InsideOfMyOwnMind]

This is why they are automating as rapidly as technology will allow. No hurt feelings, no attitude, etc. no health care or 401k. The problem they are having with automation in China is that they don't want to pay the skilled workers to maintain the robots. The same will happen here. I knew somebody on a personal level who was in corporate management and he said if you excel at your task they actually look down on you because they need all workers to perform the same so they don't have compensation issues.

[@sharkfin154]

Working as a chipper/grinder at a foundry we had a quota in the firm of the amount of time we are allowed on each type of peice. If you were going faster than the quota time you would get the excess put on your check as extra hours worked. However if you were doing this consistently then they would time you with a stop watch without you knowing and then set that as the quota for everyone else. That way they could basically redirect the anger everyone else felt for them, on to the guy who is just good at his job and wanted to make extra cash. I think they said that they had 40% turn over of people withing the first 2 weeks and 80% after a year