I Ranked Every Status Move For Nuzlocking

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pChal

pChal

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@PokemonChallenges
@PokemonChallenges Жыл бұрын
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@timjonsson2602
@timjonsson2602 Жыл бұрын
Great digestible video, any chance you can upload the VOD similar to the ability tier lists? Either on daily or VOD channel?
@Lunar1314_
@Lunar1314_ Жыл бұрын
I'll think about it
@tele_grammepokemonchalle-kc2uy
@tele_grammepokemonchalle-kc2uy Жыл бұрын
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@brendaj252
@brendaj252 Жыл бұрын
omg my mom is obsessed with this game, so i can't believe their your sponsor. If you aren't a Match 3 gamer, try and get your mom to download it. I'm not kidding. Mom's love match 3.
@rayyaninspookymonth1630
@rayyaninspookymonth1630 Жыл бұрын
I'm not into empires and puzzles, but not going to lie, you got me there by hiding all 27 useless moves in the ad, keep up the good work!
@lolcheeserofl
@lolcheeserofl Жыл бұрын
That was actually such a genius ad read not gonna lie
@dick.torture
@dick.torture Жыл бұрын
did ya hear that everyone? Jordan Michael is not lying
@darckense1
@darckense1 Жыл бұрын
Wait MAGNETIC FLU-
@fratparty69
@fratparty69 Жыл бұрын
Last video the ad segment was really cool too, he raced a 1min speedrun side by side
@nazek4216
@nazek4216 Жыл бұрын
What was it? sponsorblock auto-skipped it for me
@agatha6999
@agatha6999 Жыл бұрын
@@nazek4216 he said all the completely useless status moves in the ad read
@bradigan
@bradigan Жыл бұрын
I love how the footage is all of these moves against Magikarp. It has the feel of an in-universe Pokémon trainer going out and beating up on Magikarp for content.
@ilavain
@ilavain Жыл бұрын
like dissecting a frog
@l4zybo1
@l4zybo1 Жыл бұрын
Wait till it gets to lvl 20
@sillygoose2488
@sillygoose2488 Жыл бұрын
​@@l4zybo1 there was a lvl 50 Magikarp somewhere tho
@didack1419
@didack1419 Жыл бұрын
@@sillygoose2488 What about that one at level 100? That one can't even evolve anymore.
@CrookiNari
@CrookiNari Жыл бұрын
or shooting fish in a barrel
@sillykyle17
@sillykyle17 Жыл бұрын
Showing Pilot's death while talking about your nuzlocke experience is next level comedy
@mikecharecky2818
@mikecharecky2818 Жыл бұрын
Thank you I was looking for this comment
@xscizor2050
@xscizor2050 Жыл бұрын
Also the 77 Sceptile death when talking about double battes
@willard_0890
@willard_0890 Жыл бұрын
Most pokemon that learn agility are already insanely fast mons ex:most birds
@oKnuTo
@oKnuTo Жыл бұрын
metagross agility is viable maby porygon but thats pretty much it.
@Squirtle_Squad_Supremacy
@Squirtle_Squad_Supremacy Жыл бұрын
There are some good ones Empoleon Ampharos Vikavolt Gorebyss Sandslashes Scizor Luxray
@alejandro_rodriguez_99
@alejandro_rodriguez_99 Жыл бұрын
​@@Squirtle_Squad_Supremacy gorebyss is a really bad option, rain dance is usually better due to swift swim
@Squirtle_Squad_Supremacy
@Squirtle_Squad_Supremacy Жыл бұрын
@@alejandro_rodriguez_99 yes but if you don't get swift swim as your ability
@alejandro_rodriguez_99
@alejandro_rodriguez_99 Жыл бұрын
@@Squirtle_Squad_Supremacy swift swin is its only normal ability, the other one is the hidden one
@MANNAT.
@MANNAT. Жыл бұрын
15:21 One VERY useful part of imprison is using Imprison + Explosion vs slow Explosion users to completely jam up boom and eliminate risk in otherwise scary matchups.
@zilosis3794
@zilosis3794 Жыл бұрын
Do any pokemon aside claydol get that consistently?
@Cirrio01
@Cirrio01 Жыл бұрын
​@@zilosis3794 bronzong
@Dragonoid269
@Dragonoid269 Жыл бұрын
Or you could use a mon with damp, or a ghost type, or a quad resist like Aggron, or hope from protect luck. But yeah, though it is a niche it is valid, especially if you do not have the other options available.
@mykeyboardismelting6856
@mykeyboardismelting6856 Жыл бұрын
Something I like to do is using imprison on a strong ghost pokemon with shadow ball to sweep a ghost gym leader/elite 4 (aka just shauntaul ngl)
@guedesbrawl
@guedesbrawl 9 ай бұрын
You can also use Imprison to give them no choice BUT to explode, which is hilariously dark
@jellomochas
@jellomochas Жыл бұрын
The following moves were mentioned during the ad (spoiler) Poison Gas Sweet Scent Aromatic Mist Mist (D tier) Life Dew Nightmare Grudge Miracle Eye Electrify Laser Focus Splash Embargo Flower Shield Power Swap Power Split Guard Swap Power Shift [he said Guard Shift here but I think he meant Guard Split] Power Trick Trick (C tier) Lock-On Crafty Shield Telekenesis Magic Room Swallow Celebrate Mind Reader Assist Happy Hour Hold Hands Magnetic Flux Unmentioned F-tier moves include Supersonic.
@christopherpeavy1627
@christopherpeavy1627 Жыл бұрын
He says life dew at 1:25
@jellomochas
@jellomochas Жыл бұрын
@@christopherpeavy1627 u right
@nightblade3709
@nightblade3709 Жыл бұрын
A true hero
@DNPsharp11
@DNPsharp11 Жыл бұрын
This is the only youtube channel ever that I don't immediately skip through the ads
@punkuin5208
@punkuin5208 Жыл бұрын
Internet historian tho
@hanzolo7687
@hanzolo7687 Жыл бұрын
Grunty Boi would like to speak with you
@darkdragonx650
@darkdragonx650 Жыл бұрын
@@hanzolo7687 it's just cringe lol
@Gonna-Cry
@Gonna-Cry Жыл бұрын
I got only 22 sadly
@TheSuperskidz
@TheSuperskidz Жыл бұрын
Jolly NordVPN songs are lit too
@yuvalwh
@yuvalwh Жыл бұрын
Encore is one of the best moves ever, its so useful when a boss fight just tries to sweep your ass right from the start
@darklightning2730
@darklightning2730 Жыл бұрын
For number one, there is also Shift Gear, which is just a better Dragon Dance, so maybe that deserves to be at number one as well despite not many Pokémon being able to learn it.
@oracle0_
@oracle0_ Жыл бұрын
I was about to say that
@darklightning2730
@darklightning2730 Жыл бұрын
@@oracle0_ You could say I’ve used the move Mind Reader.
@Subatomicfish
@Subatomicfish Жыл бұрын
And soon Victory Dance, a physical version of Quiver Dance. Only Hisuian Liligant gets it, but still.
@darklightning2730
@darklightning2730 Жыл бұрын
@@Subatomicfish Weirdly enough, if you look up the move Victory Dance on Bulbapedia, it shows Iron Hands using it.
@Subatomicfish
@Subatomicfish Жыл бұрын
@@darklightning2730 that’s just because it was used via Metronome which Iron Hands can be taught
@robbyraymond9047
@robbyraymond9047 Жыл бұрын
I actually have seen a good Imprison strat. In the final Mt. Battle fight of XD, the final boss has a Dusclops with Imprison, Protect, Ice Beam, and Shadow Ball. The three moves it imprisons can really set back your strategies while in effect. Protect is just a really good double battle move in this game with only double battles, Shadow Ball is good against Dusclops itself as well as his Latias and Latios, and Ice Beam is good on the aforementioned Eon duo as well as his Salamence.
@IFeel404
@IFeel404 Жыл бұрын
Taunt
@GyroNutz
@GyroNutz Жыл бұрын
@@IFeel404 Taunt sucks in gen 3, only lasting 2 turns iirc
@raghavthombare3895
@raghavthombare3895 Жыл бұрын
So that's why this is quite hard game to deal with Btw Pokemon company needs to give attention to these games too
@mr.sandman7339
@mr.sandman7339 Жыл бұрын
I'm doing a playthrough of XD and this Dusclops strat also happens in a battle in Orre Colosseum. It's cool seeing it actually work (but also part of why my Walrein has both ice beam and blizzard). It's refreshing to see something different considering how much AI teams rely on confusion/para as their whole strategy in some of those battles (and it works when they do it!).
@iss2075
@iss2075 Жыл бұрын
@@mr.sandman7339 Yeah also in Battle Revolution there are also some interesting Imprison movesets that the opponents use. The game designers always put Protect on the moveset as well if its double battles lol. These games were made before VGC or anything I believe, but they clearly understood how good Protect was back then.
@sirlagsalot1387
@sirlagsalot1387 Жыл бұрын
You managed to get me to watch an entire ad read just to hear the pokemon moves, genius
@Voidbear_FNaF_and_Undertale
@Voidbear_FNaF_and_Undertale Жыл бұрын
with Imprison I feel like a strategy that could be fun if you're doing a randomizer if if you get both imprison and transform. You use Imprison and then transform into your opponent, which makes them unable to do anything but struggle.
@MercuryA2000
@MercuryA2000 Жыл бұрын
Wait it works like that?!?!
@byeguyssry
@byeguyssry Жыл бұрын
​@@MercuryA2000 yep! Mew can use this strat (I'm not sure if only in one or a few generations tho) since it learns both moves.
@amale441
@amale441 Жыл бұрын
@@byeguyssry Yeah, it got banned in the smogon 1v1 format because of that IIRC
@zacharyyoungblood7013
@zacharyyoungblood7013 Жыл бұрын
Leech seed is even better than you give it credit, since it can be stacked with paralysis, burn, or sleep, which no other good status move can!
@dropfish3109
@dropfish3109 Жыл бұрын
not you, confusion
@zacharyyoungblood7013
@zacharyyoungblood7013 Жыл бұрын
​@@dropfish3109 I mean fair... but all common confusion moves have terrible accuracy, rarely work, and lasts at most 3-4 turns. Attract is better confusion and attract is terrible.
@conradthe2
@conradthe2 Жыл бұрын
An idea why lucky chant is niche: In situations where crits really matter, it's usually also the case that you don't have enough tempo to waste a turn on preventing said crit; also, 5 turns might be too short, but also permanent would be kinda broken just thoughts
@deadface19
@deadface19 Жыл бұрын
That ad section was well done. I usually skip that. But I was so focused on finding each move I didn't realize I've been had until it was too late.
@marcustulliuscicero5443
@marcustulliuscicero5443 Жыл бұрын
The only use I ever found for Disable was against B2W2 Challenge Mode Cheren, where Golduck can disable his Pidove's only damage move, Quick Attack.
@hackspazygamer
@hackspazygamer Жыл бұрын
That Yu-Gi_oh comment made me smile at the 10 minute mark. Unfortunately, field spells don't exactly work like that anymore, and each player can control their own field spell. You have to specifically take theirs off the field by destroying it or some other interesting means.
@hudsonbeaudry6760
@hudsonbeaudry6760 Жыл бұрын
Dude you are getting so good at this KZbin thing. You’ve grown SOOO much over the last year it’s crazy.
@extrakrispy81
@extrakrispy81 Жыл бұрын
It's been a while since I've watched a video of yours. You've got a lot better at making them since last year. I agree with pretty much this whole list. I would put thunder web in A because cutting speed is huge but I realize its not always the play.
@priestesslucy3299
@priestesslucy3299 Жыл бұрын
Laser Focus is the move that guarantees a crit the next attack right? It's not a great move, but it can be used to keep an enemy from healing. You don't always have the option to use a move that would just not do enough damage to keep the target out of healing range. Also, guaranteed bypassing Amnesia/Iron Defense/Cosmic Power stacks can come in handy
@athath2010
@athath2010 Жыл бұрын
ain't that just glorified leer once the 2x -> 1.5x crit nerf became a thing?
@priestesslucy3299
@priestesslucy3299 Жыл бұрын
@@athath2010 Valid. But it is nice that Laser Focus still works even if the foe switches and also has the Defense Buff Bypass attribute. And has its effect for both attacking stats, so it's debatably better for a mixed attacker than Leer I never claimed it was _good_ but it feels better than completely useless = F tier to me
@TWLSpark
@TWLSpark Жыл бұрын
​@@priestesslucy3299 I don't think it's useless, just redundant more often than not. For instance, in the example you gave about it working even if the opponent switches, you're getting the same value by just attacking twice (once on the switch, then again for, presumably, the KO). I think its best possible application is against Calm Mind or Curse sweepers that have set up quite a bit, but that might often end up with you trading a Pokemon for that chance (the user) almost consistently. This is more or less a desperate strategy to avoid wiping, though, so I don't think you should be always relying on it. In my opinion, high F tier or low E is good enough.
@priestesslucy3299
@priestesslucy3299 Жыл бұрын
@@TWLSpark basically, it's a medium term move. Something I would be happy to replace Tackle or Pound or scratch with, but it's not sticking on the moveset long term
@nooobiechild
@nooobiechild Жыл бұрын
That magnetic flux line was hilarious af. Jan has drastically improved on how to do sponsor messages.
@ParasaurolophusZ
@ParasaurolophusZ Жыл бұрын
I got to see about half of your original stream doing these rankings live on Twitch. Really fun list. Also wow, many props to fitting in (almost) all those move names in the ad. That was pretty great.
@dodge7246
@dodge7246 Жыл бұрын
Though I've started a lot of Nuzlockes, the only one I actually finished was Omega Ruby In which I swept Wallace with a Quiver Dance Beautifly. Dumbass leads with a Luvdisc, he had it coming That Beautifly reached the Hall of Fame, too. Quiver Dance is Fair and Balanced (tm) (C) (R)
@guedesbrawl
@guedesbrawl Жыл бұрын
Trick is unironically WAY stronger in rom hacks once you have the resource to "farm" choice items. You can just trick a choice item into the opponent then use them as setup fodder. There's some bulky mons like Slowbro and Bronzong that can learn it, too (unlike i dunno, Lucky Chant which is mostly on frail shit)
@aidanspence1178
@aidanspence1178 Жыл бұрын
You don't lose the item after battle in Gen 5+, so you don't even need to do that in those gens.
@nightmare62089
@nightmare62089 Жыл бұрын
I wonder where he would've put Shed Tail. Substitute with a safe switch? Hell of a move. Same for Revival Blessing.
@ritasonka330
@ritasonka330 9 ай бұрын
I was WONDERING where Dragon Dance and Quiver Dance were (I forgot about Shell Smash) in your setup list! I immediately paused the video and wrote a comment down here asking how on earth you missed those two when I saw the setup list. I didn't post it because it was so unbelievable to me that you'd forget Dragon Dance, I figured there must have been some twist. I'm glad I waited.
@TheCrow938
@TheCrow938 Жыл бұрын
In playthroughs I do not often use non attacking moves but Quiver Dance, Dragon Dance, and Calm Mind if available I use them. It is only for Randomizers but I once had a Simple Espeon and used Calm Mind on it and it was unbeatable.
@grunklesam787
@grunklesam787 Жыл бұрын
I once used a Lucky Chant Clefable to set up for a sweep with Drapion against Riley on Iron Island in Renegade Platinum. It was a nice way to make the strat more consistent, though the move as a whole is pretty niche,
@serpent2776
@serpent2776 Жыл бұрын
Doesn't Drapion get Battle Armor?
@grunklesam787
@grunklesam787 Жыл бұрын
@@serpent2776 Yes, it does. My plan was to lower Riley's lead pokemon (an absol) with Intimidate Gyarados + Staraptor and Feather Dance Chatot. However, to switch around my attack dropping mons, I needed to use Lucky Chant to protect them from crits. So I did, and it worked.
@PredictableEnigma
@PredictableEnigma Жыл бұрын
It's crazy to me how different nuzelocks are to competitive in terms of what's valuable
@PikachuPlays
@PikachuPlays Жыл бұрын
Generally confusion is pretty bad on its own, but I've found a nice use case for it when synergized with sand attack on early-game Umbreon sets. I ran crunch, sand attack, confuse ray, moonlight in renplat and it was nice for when you wanted to reduce attacking odds as much as possible for a setup sweeper
@Shmandalf
@Shmandalf Жыл бұрын
I had a Miltank with Attract during a hardcore nuzlocke a few years ago. She carried me through _alot_ of fights, its such a broken move in the gen 2 remakes lol.
@GreatDG
@GreatDG Жыл бұрын
Why did whitney change her name?
@melvint-p9500
@melvint-p9500 Жыл бұрын
Shoutouts to red rescue team where attracts works on every pokemon and has 100%proc rate.
@Helegnaro
@Helegnaro Жыл бұрын
Loved the concise information, and some background music from Phoenix wright.
@thebiggergazza4042
@thebiggergazza4042 Жыл бұрын
Nice wideo showing the power of powerless moves Jan! I’m doing a little Locke of XY and I often use Flabébé to tank and support my teams with lucky chant and wish, Trickroom with Execute and hazards with Tentacool or Tyrunt. I’m about to fight the 5th gym and I’ll need to use a specially defensive Goldeen (with Wacan berry and pre-poisoned to avoid paralysis) to break sturdy on Magneton using hail (in case my accuracy is dropped by Mirror shot)
@danieljay6196
@danieljay6196 Жыл бұрын
Great vid, I would argue putting simple beam higher than C tier because of what it can do for an ally. Understandably a niche situation but getting a simple beam on your ally to use a swords dance or anything similar can be huge
@donjuanmagic0073
@donjuanmagic0073 Жыл бұрын
PChal's script writing has been improving so much
@Matty2Saints
@Matty2Saints Жыл бұрын
the old jan would’ve just had the tierlisting stream edited down. love this video
@StarfieldDisarray
@StarfieldDisarray Жыл бұрын
10:32 Field Spells haven't worked like this in like 10 years but god they probably need to bring that rule back, it was a good idea at the time but not so much now.
@richardsoria1547
@richardsoria1547 10 ай бұрын
Bro you got me back into pokemon and the last few SV and PLA are bangers
@altariamotives16
@altariamotives16 Жыл бұрын
I used Encore/Disable strats against Fantina's Mismagius in my recent Platinum run, v fun
@pkzammy666
@pkzammy666 Жыл бұрын
That ad read was legendary. I need to touch grass cuz I knew every move mentioned. Even the harder to catch ones 😂
@brendanelmer3305
@brendanelmer3305 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Jan this was extremely helpful since I've just dove head first into emerald rogue 👍
@Marblegamingmaster
@Marblegamingmaster Жыл бұрын
20:18 PChal, I agree. I think the best toxic stall strat is with Pyukumuku. Toxic, Recover, Protect, and then one other move.
@jaimereupert4247
@jaimereupert4247 6 ай бұрын
I'll try that in Pokémon Infinite Fusion. I have a couple of Pyukumuku fusions. Pyukumuku/Pineco and Pyukumuku/Mimejr.
@ShinyGBZ
@ShinyGBZ Жыл бұрын
Pchal truly innovating the ad game lmfao
@dustinpilon2258
@dustinpilon2258 11 ай бұрын
First ad read in a long time I didn't skip. "I need a shield. Swap." That was good 😂
@scrubplaceholder6216
@scrubplaceholder6216 Жыл бұрын
Sweet scent to ensure sleep powder hits is a solid strategy for setting up bulk up for example. Or 2 sweet scent, sleep powder, and flash in order to make flash never miss. Then set-up.
@Rictavio27
@Rictavio27 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, but that does take up 3/4s of your move slots and multiple turns. Unless the Pokémon your facing doesn’t deal a lot of damage, it’s very risky
@iamcoolkinda
@iamcoolkinda Жыл бұрын
The goat HM slave move set Cut Flash Sleep powder Sweet scent I can’t tell you how many battles this shitty move set has carried me through
@shadeknight6537
@shadeknight6537 Жыл бұрын
Swagger does have a niche over other Confusion moves by pairing well with Foul Play, though that's a high-risk, high-reward strat. If I was completely subjective, I'd put whichever is the Swagger clone that raises Sp. Attack in F tier because it completely missed the point of Swagger. Confusion damage doesn't take Sp. Attack into account, so raising it on your opponent is pointless, except now you've doubled their Sp. Attack, so they can more easily kill you. It's useless on physical attackers, and special attackers only benefit somewhat from it. It's just a garbage move.
@You-hp3rl
@You-hp3rl Жыл бұрын
The point is that it's a 100% acc that doesn't boost atk, so u can use it safely on phiscal attackers,
@shadeknight6537
@shadeknight6537 Жыл бұрын
@@You-hp3rl There's already a move like that, it's called Confuse Ray.
@GyroNutz
@GyroNutz Жыл бұрын
Swagger can also be used in creative doubles setups with some way of preventing status (e.g. Persim Berry, Safeguard, Own Tempo), giving your teammate a free permanent x2 attack. In comparison, Helping Hand gives a one-time 1.5x boost, though it also has the benefits of being priority + boosting special attack + not requiring a setup. Still, it has a legit niche.
@marsiumouse
@marsiumouse Жыл бұрын
0:37 I love how the world will never forget about pilot's death
@claireclearwater-gs9zc
@claireclearwater-gs9zc Жыл бұрын
Pokémon Challenges made a super engaging ad read, this is probably one of the few ad reads that viewers may analyze word by word or even take notes on! What a steal for the company.
@user-uv2cp1qd1j
@user-uv2cp1qd1j Жыл бұрын
Mr Challenges, You forgot to mention that sleep activates guts. Which means sleep talk can select a guts boosted move. In smogon singles, recently I’ve played and have seen a lot of Eviolite Guts rest talk Ursaring. With facade and usually EQ. Although in a nuzlocke you could obviously pre sleep so the opportunities are even greater.
@luirromenjivar1390
@luirromenjivar1390 Жыл бұрын
I would argue that Toxic Spikes are better than any other hazard on Nuzlockes, since you can scout before the battle what your opp has, if they lack a Poison type to absorb em can be insanely good.
@GyroNutz
@GyroNutz Жыл бұрын
I personally disagree, the ability of Stealth Rocks to take away up to half of a Pokemon's health just by switching in is unparalleled. There's a lot of Pokemon who will be immune to Toxic Spikes outside of Poison types, but no Pokemon can avoid taking Stealth Rocks damage (aside from Magic Guard users)
@oscarelieff4219
@oscarelieff4219 Жыл бұрын
9:42 I CANNOT BELIEVE THIS VIDEO IS BROUGHT THE SAME DAY AARON ZHENG LOST IN TOP 4 TO A WILL O WISP MISS AGAIN, 10 YEARS LATER
@estimatedmedian
@estimatedmedian Жыл бұрын
Big fan of the recent scripts. Really helpful list as well, thanks Jan!
@batata2818
@batata2818 Жыл бұрын
Flygon HG used lucky chant in his ultra sun and moon nuzloke, on the first olivia battle
@AquamarineVGC
@AquamarineVGC Жыл бұрын
Just started the video and gotta give props to Jan for the unique ad segment!
@Jay-gurl
@Jay-gurl Жыл бұрын
I began nuzlocking last year for fun and learned the value of status/setup moves. Sand-attack, double team, screech, sleep powder and bulk up have come in clutch so many times
@Spacey75257
@Spacey75257 Жыл бұрын
crafty shield and magic room in the ad were very clever
@VerkatosEnsei
@VerkatosEnsei Жыл бұрын
That may be the greatest ad read yet, that's actually pretty damn brilliant
@okey7281
@okey7281 Жыл бұрын
I love the clip you put to represent your thousands of hours of experience
@Maki-Hosomaki
@Maki-Hosomaki Жыл бұрын
You literaly posted a minute after I lost my black 2 nuzlock
@Lavamites25
@Lavamites25 Жыл бұрын
Have to say, Jan is getting interesting with ad reads. This is the first in a long time I haven't skipped from any content creator
@missmoss4641
@missmoss4641 Жыл бұрын
Holy heck, I've never stayed through an ad before. Bravo!
@STDynamite8008
@STDynamite8008 Жыл бұрын
Actually burst out laughing so much during that ad read 😂😂😂
@wardskidoedels512
@wardskidoedels512 Жыл бұрын
That ad read was genuinely brilliant
@101damnations7
@101damnations7 Жыл бұрын
I have used Lucky Chant on a Pokémon once. A vanilla nuzelocke of Pokémon White. My Musharna. I had caught it in the Dreamyard while trying to find an Audino, because I wanted to remove it from the encounter pool to route for other shaking grass encounters. But it really came in clutch. Ghetsis fight, lost Serperior to N’s Zekrom crit, and have barely survived the assaults of Ghetsis’s mons, including a close win against the Hydreigon before losing a mon to Seismatoad in the rain. The Musharna came in clutch, being too bulky to kill in the rain without a crit, and setting up Lucky Chants along with dealing slow damage and using Recover, I won the day. I would lose Musharna to some BS later, and eventually win the nuzelocke with a merry band of misfits clambered together with my remaining encounters, but that is the one time I’ve ever had Lucky Chant be useful. And it wasn’t even integral to some important strategy. I think the move is seen as a waste of a slot unless under very specific circumstances, since crits can’t be planned for, and may be dismissed as a risk worth taking in comparison to a more useful move.
@misterpenguin143
@misterpenguin143 Жыл бұрын
That ad read would be perfect but I couldn't tell you what it was for because I was only listening for the moves
@haydenbowen7338
@haydenbowen7338 Жыл бұрын
The most goated ad reads on KZbin and it's not even close! You're the best Jan
@hekirb3382
@hekirb3382 Жыл бұрын
I was waiting for quiver dance to show up and when he announced #1 I was like "Did I miss it? There's no way it's better than stuff like protect!"
@oblisake
@oblisake Жыл бұрын
Checked it out within ten mins of upload, love the vids!
@Father_Bohawk
@Father_Bohawk Жыл бұрын
So I have used Trick before as an easy win condition. Against Totem Mimikyu in UM, used Trick from Metang to give Totem a Black Sludge, then used protect and pivoting to wait it out and then take out the Bannette after it was down and couldn't call Jelli Very niche but I would say giving your opponent a damaging item while taking their useful item is at least feasible in the right circumstances
@unovasfinest2623
@unovasfinest2623 Жыл бұрын
10/10 ad read. You actually got me to watch it 😂
@matthewdodd1262
@matthewdodd1262 Жыл бұрын
That was a really interesting video. Do you think you would change your mind and adjust some of the B or C tier moves to be higher up if you found a ROM hack that you really only beat because of using those moves?
@joetatos8687
@joetatos8687 Жыл бұрын
I usually skip the ad reads but I'm ngl this one deserves some respect lol
@sagacious03
@sagacious03 Жыл бұрын
I would love to hear about the cases for some of the moves you just mentioned in that reading! (Not that it wasn't creative.) After all, some of them have their niches, terrible as those niche may be, if they're even applicable in in-game. For example, Assist was the core of a competitive strategy built around using only moves that Assist can call. Anyway, decent analysis video! Thanks for uploading!
@connorr8071
@connorr8071 Жыл бұрын
I honestly keep forgetting that Assist exists, but I actually really like using it when I can. My Liepard with Assist, in particular, was actually pretty fun to use.
@HeyZeusy
@HeyZeusy Жыл бұрын
loving the Persona music in the background
@GuyWatsonGaming
@GuyWatsonGaming Жыл бұрын
Best ad read on the channel, by far. Nicely done Jan
@damianblu
@damianblu Жыл бұрын
Just beat Blaine in an Infinite Fusion playthrough by using encore on its Roar, then Leech Seed when swapped. Kept using encore on it when it cycled back in and let it die to the chip damage. So hilarious.
@dustinpilon2258
@dustinpilon2258 11 ай бұрын
I always love when I'm messing around in Pokémon showdown and someone quits the battle after my wheezing hits a clear smog following their sword dance or nasty plot. Makes me laugh every time
@killiantruegames3670
@killiantruegames3670 Жыл бұрын
Wow, haven’t heard someone mention the old field spell rules in a while outside of retrospectives or playoff series. Since 2014 both players are able to have field spells on the field at the same time.
@noobXd3stroyer
@noobXd3stroyer Жыл бұрын
Damn I actually missed ONE during the first listen to the ad read. I felt so dumb when I rewinded it 😂 love how you make the ads not quite so boring
@dovewingseyesaregreen5664
@dovewingseyesaregreen5664 Жыл бұрын
Last but I'll admit, I'm still not very good about using set up moves, most set up I do is inflicting status like toxic or thunder waving (I prefer nuzzle even with the low damage, better than nothing honestly). That said, it was my strategy for a snaplocke on the first gym where I only had Oshawott and Azurill. I thought for sure I'd lose Pokemon there and possibly lose since I didn't want to face Roxanne without any of my few encounters I had before her gym. That's when I checked what Charm reduced: attack. I knew I had to worry about Work-Up, but to reduce it at the same time as him trying to raise it? It seemed like such a non-issue suddenly. I don't remember how many times I had to use it but after Azurill finally got to low health from spamming nothing but Charm, I switch to Oshawott and cleanly take out the ace. I gained a lot of respect for Azurill and Charm that day. I did ditch the run after failing the next two encounters because there was no way I could pull a win like that again, I had no faith. I do want to go back some day to do a snaplocke proper (not a trashlocke under a different name) and I'll be so happy to get another Azurill (but would have still liked that Riolu I could have also nabbed).
@ryanwells137
@ryanwells137 Жыл бұрын
Luvdisc gets Charm and Lucky Chant pretty early making it surprisingly useful throughout the game to nerf an enemy into the dirt and then switch in a pokemon that can set up with basically no risk. Only way I could find to use lucky chant.
@Firedonify
@Firedonify Жыл бұрын
It's weird to see some of the missing moves, like topsy turvy when talking about things like haze, or dragon dance and quiver dance with the setup moves. Though I didn't expect the top 5 at the end, so at least the last two are a moot point.
@Dragonoid269
@Dragonoid269 Жыл бұрын
I'd probably put roost with the other healing moves, primarily as whilst it is slightly better I don't feel it is a whole tier's worth of better (in most situations you'll either won't need the drop your flying type to wall something, or it'll be useful for some topping off your hp a little but you'll still want to either be able to OHKO or want to switch out as few mons easily tank a super effective move should it crit)
@ryanhilliker375
@ryanhilliker375 9 ай бұрын
My first playthrough of black i had an embor with ember, flamethrower, lava plume, and eruption or something like that. I wasnt the sharpest ball on the belt. Hit like a truck though
@obvalenvee338
@obvalenvee338 Жыл бұрын
Jan, I swear you have the best ad reads I’ve ever seen.
@mr.tapman8685
@mr.tapman8685 Жыл бұрын
I love that when he said “I’m a professional nuzlocker with hours of experience” he shows the clip of Pilot dying in the EK run
@Forever-GM-Dusty
@Forever-GM-Dusty Жыл бұрын
I think that was the single most brilliant way I've ever seen to convince me to not skip an ad read. Kudos
@eliyaskiya
@eliyaskiya Жыл бұрын
All moves hidden in the ad read for anyone wondering - Poison Gas - Sweet Scent - Aromatic Mist ( and Mist ) - Nightmare - Grudge - Electrify - Laser Focus - Splash - Embargo - Power Swap - Power Split - Guard Swap - Power Shift - Guard Shift* - Power Trick ( and Trick ) - Lock On - Crafty Shield - Telekinesis ( and Kinesis ) - Magic Room - Swallow - Celebrate - Mind Reader - Assist - Happy Hour - Hold Hands - Magnetic Flux I'm pretty sure by Guard Shift he meant Guard Split
@michaelcitrino5339
@michaelcitrino5339 Жыл бұрын
I personally prefer to have a good offensive spread rather than any status moves but I do see the value in them for those who wish to use them. For the most part I can agree with your placements except for one that I noticed. At 18:08 I see mimic in D tier. I listen to nuzlockes a lot while i work and the status move i hear the most is Mimic, Rest, and Protect combos. In gen 1 + 2 just add Return and you have a set almost anyone can win the game with. If this ranking is just for nuzlockes like the title suggests then I believe you should put mimic much higher, at least B if not A tier. There are a surprising number of trainers out there that have a move on their first pokemon that can almost sweep their teams.
@blubudubbel
@blubudubbel Жыл бұрын
That ad read was spectacular!
@YosiahW
@YosiahW Жыл бұрын
Dragon dance S tier, perhaps? One or two of those and you can sweep with ease. Pairing that with a wish user to set up a free dance on immune switch in like Flygon, Dragapult, Hydreigon, Duraludon, Dragonite, Appletun, etc.
@chaabanemamadeze8772
@chaabanemamadeze8772 Жыл бұрын
You could also mention victory dance and shift gear at the number one spot
@LovJinxx
@LovJinxx Жыл бұрын
Wow it seems that rivailry with Alpharad really paid off with upgrading the ad reads, this one was really impressive!!
@n00bowser
@n00bowser Жыл бұрын
0:00 Dat music choice. Pokemon Colosseum Kaizo (or Grand Colosseum, which is already out) HC Nuzlocke when?
@dankness420
@dankness420 Жыл бұрын
I have never been so conflicted about skipping an ad in my life, so i didn't, well played Jan, well played
@awesomedragon5614
@awesomedragon5614 Жыл бұрын
Laser Focus could have a useful niche in blocking defense buffs from the opponent, not a great move, but not F tier
@alexread6767
@alexread6767 Жыл бұрын
The ad read was hilarious. I only heard 24 moves, so I'm gonna assume I missed Focus Energy. Especially since Laser Focus was on there. Laser Focus has the tiniest of niches of MAYBE being your best option for Totem Ribombee, since other set up moves are usually better but Ribombee loves to boost its Sp Def. I so wanted there to be synergy with Sniper, but the only way to get Sniper+Laser Focus it is to trade, allow SOS Chaining for your first encounter and grind through dozens of Spearow or Fearow until one has its Hidden Ability and then use the USUM Tutor, or use Horsea on Isle of Armor. So... yeah, no Sniper. I don't get why Poison Gas was on there, though. I didn't hear Poison Powder listed, and Poison Gas is just slightly better than that as of Gen V. And I also just kinda like Nightmare. Even if it's impractical and barely anything learns it.
@MattGOG666
@MattGOG666 Жыл бұрын
Man your ad reads are pretty ingenious
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