In Response to Various Questions Regarding The Poem of the Man-God by Maria Valtorta.

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@kzbaby2002
@kzbaby2002 8 ай бұрын
I downloaded it yesterday and was up until 4 AM. Couldn’t put it down. I didn’t see anything contradictory in what I read. And I saw some similarities with Emmerich and Agreda. What is written about Mary is absolutely beautiful.
@coloradopaul4798
@coloradopaul4798 5 ай бұрын
I've read it multiple times. Nothing against the faith in it. I personally knew a bishop who gave his approval to read it. It's the BEST was to grow in your faith and know Jesus, which is the WHOLE POINT!!!
@milburncherian5785
@milburncherian5785 8 ай бұрын
The Poem Of The Man God by Maria Valtorta is the most FANTASTIC BOOK AFTER THE BIBLE. IT'S IMPOSSIBLE FOR ANY HUMAN TO HAVE GIVEN IT TO US IN THE WAY IT WAS GIVEN. THE DATES GOING BACK AND FORTH AND COMING TOGETHER, FINALLY, IS A MIRACLE. HAS TO BE 100% TRUTH.
@janetouchedupoujol6344
@janetouchedupoujol6344 8 ай бұрын
Agreed. The Catholics and orthodox churches hear more Scripture than any other church today. I'm a convert to Catholicism and I was so disappointed with how little scripture the Catholic people I encountered actually know. Tradition they know but not scripture. Many don't even really know catechism. Anyway ..we keep on keeping on
@hyeminkwun9523
@hyeminkwun9523 5 ай бұрын
Yes, many cradle Catholics do not know the Dogmas well. To many of them, it is just a custom. I guess their parents didn't teach them well, and their children themselves did not understand the supreme importance of knowing the Catholicism. It reflects the times we are living.
@watermain48
@watermain48 8 ай бұрын
Thank you Robert. I had not been aware of this writing, but now I want to read it. I have enjoyed reading the works of Anne Catherine Emmerich and St. Bridget of Sweden and it seems as though The Poem of the Man-God will be just as memorable.
@hyeminkwun9523
@hyeminkwun9523 5 ай бұрын
Maria's is the best one. If you read her notebooks (1943, 1944, 1945-1950), you would have much better understanding on her and how much she suffered. She is a great victim soul and a great saint!
@coloradopaul4798
@coloradopaul4798 5 ай бұрын
It's more readable than Emmerich and is far more interesting as it is written as almost a novel.
@rorymacpherson2211
@rorymacpherson2211 8 ай бұрын
At 5;42 You wanted to see more studies of the Poem. Read The Diary of Jesus by Jean Aulagnier. It is a day by day account of Jesus' life based on ancient calendars and on the writings of Maria Valtorta.
@thecatholicman
@thecatholicman 8 ай бұрын
Will do
@wulframnus149
@wulframnus149 2 ай бұрын
Poem of the Man-God, by Maria Valtorta next > by Fr. Kevin Robinson, fsspx, April 25 2006 Fr. Robinson's Talk About Maria Valtorta's Writings (MP3 Audio) Maria Valtorta Summa & Encyclopedia.pdf (Updated Jun 3 2017)
@johannachristinaodriscoll4236
@johannachristinaodriscoll4236 8 ай бұрын
I started listening to the audio version today I think it is beautiful. The first volume is over four hours long. I’m finding the Poem most interesting. It definitely draws the listener into the world of those times. I love it. Viva Cristo Rey
@thecatholicman
@thecatholicman 8 ай бұрын
The lady the reads the poem on KZbin is incredible at rendering the work so easy to listen to. I’ve listened to the poem for hours in the car.
@robertryan2542
@robertryan2542 8 ай бұрын
Watching here up in Newtownbutler, Fermanagh.
@AJ_Jingco
@AJ_Jingco Ай бұрын
Maria Valtorta is a Canonized Saint in the sight of God the Abba Father Yahweh Adonai.
@tomthx5804
@tomthx5804 8 ай бұрын
"The Book of Azariah is written by Maria Valtorta, who has shown herself to be an unreliable author on Catholic matters. Her multi-volume work, The Poem of the Man-God , has been discredited by the Holy See on more than one occasion, as then Cardinal Ratzinger, serving as head of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, reaffirmed in 1993: "The “visions” and “dictations” referred to in the work, The Poem of the Man-God, are simply the literary forms used by the author to narrate in her own way the life of Jesus. They cannot be considered supernatural in origin." The Book of Azariah is based on an alleged series of dictations that Valtorta said came from her guardian angel, whom she referred to as “Azariah.” This book, like Valtorta’s multi-volume Poem of the Man-God, has never received any Church approval. Consequently, stick with the four gospels and the works of approved Catholic authors for genuine edification."
@thecatholicman
@thecatholicman 8 ай бұрын
Well the video isn’t even finished. Listen to the video first and what you have wrote will Be answered.
@danieldimond5734
@danieldimond5734 8 ай бұрын
​@@kahnlivesYes, I have heard Father Rippenger, discuss that as well. According, to Fr. Rippenger (renowned american exorcist); ones guardian angel, never divulges their name. 👍
@danieldimond5734
@danieldimond5734 8 ай бұрын
​@@kahnlivesOkay. Based upon what evidence, to the contrary ? Are you aware, that when he was Cardinal, Pope Benedict XVI., had stated that he did NOT believe, that Protestants were heretics ? 💖
@danieldimond5734
@danieldimond5734 8 ай бұрын
🥸 Okay. Based upon what evidence, to the contrary ? Are you aware, that when he was Cardinal, Pope Benedict XVI., had stated [in writing], that he did NOT believe, that Protestants were heretics ? Valtorta's esoteric knowledge, of the geography of ancient Palestine, etc., seems to me to be inexplicable. Frankly, I would surmise that such knowledge is indeed, supernatural in origin. Conversely, could her supernatural revelations, have been demonic in origin ? 💖
@rorymacpherson2211
@rorymacpherson2211 8 ай бұрын
It appears you are just vomiting the views of Fr. Mitch Pacwa. Don't be lazy read it yourself.
@danb9769
@danb9769 8 ай бұрын
Robert, you mentioned in and earlier video about an audio podcast of the poem with a women reading it. this one seems very good but it is not complete, as far as i can see. It does not have the passion, etc and the latest posting is just weeks ago. Is this a work in progress and would you expect it to be completed? Can you point me to the one you use kzbin.info/aero/PLGNvjlfbG-8fF8Cv0pez03XomnUQSvJau thanks and God Bless dan perhaps this is complete but the last entry says "Series 26/ Third Year of Public Life", is that the concluding book?
@kyriaeleison9368
@kyriaeleison9368 8 ай бұрын
I have too heard this excellent audio book and it is an ongoing work the last was series 26. However the rendition by Maximo Bozzi is complete.
@kyriaeleison9368
@kyriaeleison9368 8 ай бұрын
I loved tbe work of MV POTMG , however the visions concerning the lament of Our Blessed Mother when Jesus was taken down from the cross, and the description of the Assumption do not match any other visions. Just mentioning this. I loved the details also it humanized Jesus for me. A lovely work of writing. I would be so interested in your thoughts on these two subjects. Also it says that except for St John, no other Apostles were present at the death and Assumption of Our Blessed Mother. Please do not get me wrong, I simply loved the books. There is a beautiful audio version by Zacchi goes by livalifealuv which make each protagonist in the book stand out by the different voices she uses, as she has dramatized the books in such a way that you don't need to know which character is speaking. Another version is by Mr. Maximo Bozzi which is a monolog. Check them out. Again, loved the POTMG definitely going to re read it again. Would appreciate your comments on this sir.
@hyeminkwun9523
@hyeminkwun9523 5 ай бұрын
When I first read Blessed Mother's lament, I also felt somewhat uneasy and it seemed not appropriate. Later while reading other books (Her notebooks, book of Azariah, Lessons on St. Paul's Romans), Our Lord explained her laments (I do not recall exactly where at this moment) as natural reactions of a mother whose son was killed that way and, thus, God understood her grief and did not think she offended Him in any way. On description of Her Assumption, I am not sure what you men by 'do not match any other vision'. I believe what is described in her book is the True Story. The only thing I wished to know is when (after how many years since Our Lord's Ascension) it occurred. My guess is about 15 years, because St. Peter left Jerusalem (and the land of Israel) for good before the Assumption took place, but not sure.
@Myohomoto
@Myohomoto 8 ай бұрын
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@TheBookofTruth-fn1bh
@TheBookofTruth-fn1bh 4 ай бұрын
There happens to be opposing camps regarding the Poem of The Man God. You have on one side all those who will state it to be one of the greatest gifts God has ever given them if not the greatest gift, and on the other side those who hate the Poem and spew out every kind of hatred towards it. What is most telling is all those who love the Poem have all read it from cover to cover at least once and most have read it multiple times, whereas those who hate the Poem have never read it. Most of the haters have never held a copy of the Poem in their hands let alone read it. THIS TELLS YOU ALL YOU NEED TO KNOW !!!
@sheiladumigan451
@sheiladumigan451 8 ай бұрын
Jesus Jesus Jesus 🙏❤️
@temp911Luke
@temp911Luke 8 ай бұрын
Let me rephrase your question then: Are heresis and errors "doing something in people's souls?" Nevetherless I find these two some of the funniest ones :) (June 1, 1943) "I look at My flock... My flock? Not anymore.... I no longer have a flock." "“Now the Father is weary, and to make the human race perish... " April 23, 1943 Some of the major errors: Another strange and imprecise statement" made of Mary (vol. 4, p. 240) is that she will "be second to Peter with regard to ecclesiastical hierarchy. . . " Our Lady surpasses St. Peter's holiness, but she is not in the hierarchy, let alone second to St. Peter. In another one there is a major error as to what "Great Harlot" is. Please read St.John's Rev. 17:5, 17:18 Dont have time to name all of the errors and heresies in the "Poem". If its condemned by the CC thats enough for me. PS: Ive just noticed you posted this video after I commented on the most recent one.
@catholicreconquista7456
@catholicreconquista7456 8 ай бұрын
"Nevetherless I find these two some of the funniest ones :) (June 1, 1943) "I look at My flock... My flock? Not anymore.... I no longer have a flock." "“Now the Father is weary, and to make the human race perish... " April 23, 1943" As to the first, Jesus is saying that the vast majority of Catholics in 1943 had ceased to be Christians, save for a small number to which he refers later in that diary entry. Can you deny it? Jesus is also very sorrowful here. Even were one to take this diary entry as a mere literary production of Maria Valtorta's imagination, it can be seen as a fair insight into how Jesus feels about 20th Century European Catholicism. This makes your amusement perverse. As to the latter, you seem to be unaware that if by 1943 we were entering the Last Times (and other passages suggest this to be the case), then the Father would be commencing the punishments set out in Sacred Scripture. Your finding this funny makes me think of a child happily reaching out its hand moments before making contact with the attractively flickering fire. "Some of the major errors: Another strange and imprecise statement" made of Mary (vol. 4, p. 240) is that she will "be second to Peter with regard to ecclesiastical hierarchy. . . " Our Lady surpasses St. Peter's holiness, but she is not in the hierarchy, let alone second to St. Peter. In another one there is a major error as to what "Great Harlot" is. Please read St.John's Rev. 17:5, 17:18" As to the first, you misunderstand the text. In view of Peter being the Pope, Mary will be second to him, being a mere believer, as Jesus says. Jesus in the passage further goes on to say that she will be first as having given birth to the Head of the Mystical Body and therefore being Mother of the Church. So, in that sense She is above Peter. Who can deny that? The statement is thus neither strange nor imprecise. As to the "Great Harlot", feel free to provide a reference and I shall respond. "If its condemned by the CC thats enough for me." That is irrelevant, since the Church has not condemned it. It was on the Index which was abolished in 1966. This meant that no books that remaining on it as at that date could ever be removed. Their status was "frozen", so to speak. It would take an unusual measure, such as JPII raising up the cause of Sr Faustina, to reinstate a work. However, the key point is that a presence on the Index did not mean that there had been a definitive condemnation (otherwise, we must even now reject the Divine Mercy and Mary of Agreda's Mystical City of God). Such presence, rather, denoted a prudent holding position pending any definitive judgment which, indeed, might never come. Such judgment has not yet come with Maria Valtorta's work. In the meantime, you are doing justice neither to Maria Valtorta (nor, perhaps to Jesus), nor to yourself, by making affirmations which are ill thought out and thus retard efforts to establish the truth in relation to these matters. Unfortunately, you are not alone.
@temp911Luke
@temp911Luke 8 ай бұрын
@@catholicreconquista7456 "Poem" by Valtorta was put on the Index by Pope Pius XII. Did you graduate in theology or do you think you know better than the Pope himself ? I really wish people focused more on things like Catechism of CC and Eucharist.
@catholicreconquista7456
@catholicreconquista7456 8 ай бұрын
@@temp911Luke It was not put on the Index by Pius XII. This was done by Card. Ottaviani under John XXIII. Note that the Cardinal, a sceptic of the writings, only managed to do this after Pius XII's death, lending support to the sworn testimony of priests that Pius XII orally endorsed the writings in a private audience. Irrespective of that, I have explained the significance of the Index, especially using the examples of Blessed Mary of Agreda and St Faustina. People will not focus on the Catechism unless they have a reason to believe that the Catholic Faith is true. Valtorta's visions give such a reason, since they are full of details which neither she nor anyone in her circle could have known. Further, people will focus on neither the Catechism, nor the Eucharist unless they have a zeal for the Catholic Faith. The works of Valtorta give this, since they present an unprecedentedly vivid sense of the reality of the events of the 1st Century AD. Once one realises the above and then reads how in this work Jesus expressly confirms the infallibility of the Catholic Church, the Papacy, the Marian dogmas and, specifically, the teachings of the Christological early Council, it is hard to see this as anything other than a gift to contemporary Catholicism. Sadly, Western Catholics are now almost all apostates. They are not interested in the Catechism and the Eucharist. Wishing them to be so will not make it a reality. They need a supernatural injection. This has always been the case and is why Jesus and Mary have appeared to various Catholics over the last 2000 years. Such an injection is needed now more than ever before. There is no point in merely doing the same thing over and over again with the same negligible results, i.e. calling people to the Catechism and Eucharist. Read the passage in Valtorta which parallels St John's Gospel Chapter 6 and you will find a tool for bringing people back to the Eucharist. Amongst other things, Maria Valtorta's writings are a toolbox full of tools given by Jesus for our times.
@rorymacpherson2211
@rorymacpherson2211 8 ай бұрын
@@catholicreconquista7456 Well said ! That person you corrected should also be reminded that preaching against the work of the Holy Spirit is a sin that may never be forgiven
@kyriaeleison9368
@kyriaeleison9368 8 ай бұрын
​@@temp911Lukeif you make an observation like the one you did, sacarcsm is not required. This gentleman is a good person who genuinely cares about the souls of people and has done great work. A little kindness of speech would be better. God needs you.
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