The Walking Dead Game: Cut Content Update - Season 3

[@RedFoxKett]

God, that last Sandra animation is so brutal... looking after Clem, possibly reaching out for her, for help... only to die...

[@blackmanwhitesuit]

Makes you kinda like Sandra, which is what I would have wanted in a game where almost none of the characters were likable.

[@tundrainnit2621]

her last dying moments were protecting the kid she was left to look after

[@mushroomfiction1250]

The fact she saved Clem and turned is even more sad. Makes me like her even more.

[@saliorgalaxygachaclub8876]

God we were robbed for so many potential for this season

[@ARoyalRuby]

"I think your game has failed if it's more interesting to talk about what's cut compared to what's in the actual game." That...Really hit me. Good stuff like always!

[@mkdazoeira942]

Not necessarily, what could have been is always more interesting than what actually happened, not because it's better, but because it's different. Take Resident Evil 1.5 for example. Of course, when most people would rather have the "what if?" version than the final product, then yeah, it really speaks a lot.

[@CringePortal]

@@mkdazoeira942 I agree with that. It’s kind of like TWDG S2 because the story was a lot darker, and therefore is interesting to talk about. But S2 didn’t fail.

[@itsblitz4437]

@@CringePortal season 2 didn't fail per say but there was so much stuff that got deleted and cut and its not even funny, it just made things a bigger mess.

[@itsblitz4437]

Right A New Frontier it could have been a game done well just not part of the main game.

[@NeverOhVer]

Red Dead 2 had a lot of amazing cut content and it turned out good, so I think he’s a bit wrong on that.

[@Jay-to9tp]

It’s so goddamn sad seeing Sandra use her last moments trying to save clementine

[@key1131]

Not trying, at least she save her :'(

[@NiallJ]

Heartbreaking 😥 Would have been such a powerful scene

[@shortangel333]

Yet Clem doesn't say anything about her.

[@Isaiah20035]

@@shortangel333 or her parents she more talked about lee than her parents

[@badreedinedjellali1328]

because he loved her more than her parents I'men her parents loves her but lee was like more of father then her real father

[@IgorNetoAnimation]

They should've made Joan be Eleanor's mother, that would actually make the game way better than the way it is. The flashback with Sandra and Clemetine would of made me so thrilled, even more than seeing Lee in season 4, It's just so interesitng and gives us details on what Clementine went through before Lee was there.

[@bellareese6795]

Lee was hardly mentioned in season 3 :(

[@m_axj]

WindyKinz tbf that’s completely understandable considering clementine only knew him for 3 months a long time before s3. And she’d been with other more important people after that like kenny or Christa

[@nightmarenight3443]

@@bellareese6795 I get why people like Lee but they had to show some love for other characters such as Kenny, Jane and even Luke with a few dialogue changes

[@zombified_pariah7720]

"even more than seeing Lee in season 4" Ok calm down, kid. Calm down.

[@IgorNetoAnimation]

@@zombified_pariah7720 Lee towards the end of the story just got irrelevant.

[@jamesl7130]

the original story sounds so much more interesting

[@Isaiah20035]

Facts than the one we have now

[@KEFTF-m9b]

And sadly will never get to play

[@zeoinfinitneospace2134]

If only season 3 would have been a great story, but no the companies just turned out to be bad

[@X1GenKaneShiroX]

The cut content story sounds more interesting, yes.

[@lordflacko9529]

Fr 🤦‍♂️

[@gavinsimms4995]

I didn't hate season 3, but the way they handled season 2s ending was awful.

[@melanix8]

Gavin Simms Totally agree

[@gregoryj9897]

I agree when I played season 2 my ending was me staying with Kenny and I hated how they killed him off so whenever I play the games now I go with Wellington I don't like how easily it gets overrun but I prefer that over Kenny's death. I know he can still live in the alone ending but I don't want Clem to lose her finger.

[@gavinsimms4995]

@@gregoryj9897 I do the same

[@melanix8]

​@@gregoryj9897 Story builder in Season 4 doesn't even take into account ending in Wellington or alone ending after Kenny's and Jane's death.

[@t8537]

Melanix8 Yeah it’s so dumb and annoying.

[@petalslost2176]

the cut audio from the clementine/sandra flashback gives me damn chills. clementine breathing heavily and crying due to what she witnessed with sandra and the horror of it, the parents leaving a voice message on why they wouldn’t be back after everything that had just occurred and the sirens in the background. that would have a fucking AMAZING way to help introduce season 3. it’s a shame how fucked over it got in the end because of higher ups.

[@InColdBloodTTG]

It makes me pretty frustrated. Just so you know, that audio at the end wasn't cut - I kinda made it myself using a bunch of the sounds that were in ANF ep1's files and gave it a dramatic flare.

[@petalslost2176]

InColdBlood damn! props to you though because that was absolutely chill inducing of an edit of all that audio in the files.

[@franchocornejo4270]

@@InColdBloodTTG thats some AWESOME editing right there, really, If I hadn´t seen this reply I would´ve never thought that was an edit, you made it SO GOOD, I got all the feels just as if it was actual game with imagery and all. After this video all I want is to know how the flashback would´ve been and play it. UUUUUURGH it bugs me a lot, knowing it was FINISHED but cut. I wonder if it is playable in one of those password locked early game versions, maybe that´s why they are locked, I don´t know. But I bet that whole flashback is better than the released ANF.

[@m_axj]

I think they cut it from the game once they decided they were gonna market the game to people who haven’t even played the first 2 seasons too - it wouldn’t make sense or be as impactful to them as it would be to previous players

[@NiallJ]

@@InColdBloodTTG That one clip, with no visuals, is more impactful than the whole season. Congrats 😂

[@GuyOnAChair]

Not keeping Sandra's scene is devestating. As bad as Season 3 is I still probably would have enjoyed that. Also I still for the life of me cannot figure out why they made the characters look like shiny plastic dolls.

[@RicoLee27]

Propably not enough time. And a big new team that could not work together and make plans amd one vision because of being busy and overworking and deadlines. So just made something per team and released. The fault of Kevin

[@MariusBoss11458]

Good question. If they were going to do that, how would they? Where? There's not many places you could put it. Episode 4 had 2 Flashbacks back to back, Episode 1 Showed what happened to Kenny, Episode 2 showed how Clem Joined the New Frontier and E3 showed how she lost AJ. Episode 5 I guess? But where? Still they'd have to change the Love with Kate. I do like how there's 4 Endings. Unlike Season 2 that was a bit better. I liked the Ending of S3. Just not some things here and there. Hearing that Joan was Supposed to be Eleanor's Mom was Shocking to me. I mean. They kinda look similar, and names are also similar. Damn Joan. I was finna date your Daughter!

[@uhhhyea6313]

Right?! Jane looked fvckin terrifying

[@manhvu4988]

​@@uhhhyea6313also Kenny They both look like they were dipped into a bath of water

[@TheTrueFawaz]

29:40 dude this was so damn genius, the last thing Clementine sees of her house in this flashback is the first thing Lee sees by the time of his arrival. Sandra's bloody handprint.

[@twinky6186]

in fact, behind the game box there is written "In the skin of Javier, a young man determined to find his missing family, you meet a young girl who has suffered an unimaginable loss. Her name is Clementine, and your destinies are linked in a story where each of your choices could be the last. " So even behind the box of the game there is this original story which is not at all the final story.

[@emma-rb4sp]

to be fair, i feel like this still applies for the episode 1 plot enough for them to get away with... still you can definitely feel it was written before the story overhaul

[@joel.jpgvid]

One thing has been bugging me for a while. Remember before the Final Season's release, Telltale released that Story Builder where you could relive some of your previous decisions from the other seasons and depending on your choices, you would get a different Clementine. One being 'Brutal' for example, or another being 'Selfless' etc. I remember each of the four options had a different weapon in Clem's hand, if I remember correctly there was a knife, a machete, a hammer or an axe. But in the final game Clementine's main weapon is the knife. What if it was originally planned that Clem's main weapon that she would use against walkers would be dependent on your choices in the previous games? If your Clementine was Brutal, her weapon of choice would've been the axe for example. Or if your Clementine was Selfless, her weapon of choice would've been the hammer, etc. It's just something that looked like it had meaning before the game's release but turned out to have been all for nothing.

[@jordanandrews216]

Wow that would of been another way of players making a choice without even knowing it

[@introvertedspider4857]

The cut content is better than the actual game

[@MrN0where]

They had so much potential but threw it all away.

[@brindcr4953]

Victor Cruz like idiots but I think it was the “ceo” of telltales fault

[@DREWUTNIA666]

Ikr lol

[@Isaiah20035]

@Atomic - Facts

[@alfredocea7965]

More than you know, Angel Dust!

[@sophmari27]

i say this a lot but MARIANA WAS SUCH WASTED POTENTIAL! in my honest opinion, she was the best character in this entire game, and she was only in it for 20 minutes (if that). she was THE one character you could instantly feel an obligation to protect, she wasnt whiny or incapable, but she seemed to need some guidance bc i assume she cant protect herself (hence why javi would tell her to hide in a state of emergency). they could have made her relationship with javi matter, but instead her entire role was "oh hey remember that kid we had with us for four years and treat like our own child but then she was shot by some bald dude with a rodents name? yeah, ahaha...that sucked didnt it. oh well!!" its so stupid lmao, imagine if your choices impacted mariana as a character, and the way she turned out impacted what the other characters thought or learned from you. maybe it would encourage clem to raise aj a certain way in tfs. she couldve even been a determinant character like conrad, except shes a lot more likeable and youd probably WANT to keep her alive throughout all the episodes. believe it or not, i dont even hate gabe, but i still think maybe the wrong garcía child died. mariana in gabes place would have worked so much better. imagine if mari and clem had got to talk! theyd have been such a badass lil duo! maybe clem could have even taught her to shoot, and took on a sisterly-type role for her. idk. this entire game was wasted potential tbh, its sad to see that so much passion was cut from a completely passion-less game.

[@NiallJ]

It is almost like they gave Mariana extra likeable traits and story beats, just so they could kill her off in front of us. Sums up the season very well really. Being impactful in completely the wrong way

[@nightmarenight3443]

Mariana was the superior sibling compared to Gabe

[@nightmarenight3443]

Couldn't have said i better myself. The only reason I kept him alive was because Mariana died and I would have felt like shit for letting them die.

[@zombified_pariah7720]

Gabe is a little bitch. Mari should have been the one to survive. 😐

[@user-ye9bc7nw2c]

Xd

[@Maruigi2]

Maybe one day someone out there will make a fanmade version of the new frontier and restore it to what it was originally going to be. that will be nice.

[@_Devil]

same with Season 2

[@richanddarksbane1439]

Same with some cut scenes in season 1. I've been wanting to do that actually, and restoring the fishing scene from season 2

[@uhhhyea6313]

Isn't that copyright infringement?

[@theanimatronicgamerreturn7785]

@@uhhhyea6313 Yep :/

[@MaxCanonStunner]

Or make telltale actually remaking season 2 and 3 and give it lot of changes.

[@QuentacosIsMe]

3:41 Woah Javi’s evolving into a giraffe

[@owchie4968]

In a nutshell, Season 3 could be extremely better :(

[@Isaiah20035]

Facts Just Like The Original Season 2 Story

[@SirBlackReeds]

Season 3 was initially Telltale trying to make up for how lackluster Season 2 was.

[@key1131]

You know… TWD franchise is fullfilled of wasted potential and amazing but unused ideas ... pointing some of them: -Comic: Andrea's death, the whisperers, Woodbury and The Commonwealth stories -TV Show: Merle, all the bridge season, Jesus and TERMINUS. -Game: Well… Everyone know this one. I love this kind of videos so much man… Thank you

[@loganicfilms1388]

disagree with Andreas death, I'm fine with it, I didnt read the comics tho, but I'm fine with it also the novels have more about Woodbury.

[@LorshZontek]

This video is just more of a excuse to rant about telltales dumb decisions and i love it

[@InColdBloodTTG]

You're not wrong.

[@jjkilhij9531]

13:55 that almost looks like its supposed to be a reference to that Season One promo art with Clem scared and Lee holding the axe

[@Isaacfess]

That's exactly what I was thinking too.

[@InColdBloodTTG]

What the hell... I didn't realise. So they made two promo S1-like images... I'm not really sure why because it's not like the game features Clementine the same way as S1.

[@nightmarenight3443]

@@InColdBloodTTG well I mean it's basically to show off the protagonist and the deuteragonist side by side with walkers around so I guess it kinda makes sense for that to be the carbon copy of the promo art for S1

[@nightmarenight3443]

The sad part about it was the fact that they have done this before. They did this with where Lee and Glenn were holding the door just like in episode 1 of S1 but they did it for episode 2 S2 with Luke and Clementine instead.

[@kyleturner7309]

29:05 what a badass. Been bitten nearly to death by a Walker and she still grabs it long enough so Clem can escape. Rip Sandra.

[@bazaar8493]

The lake suicide contradicts what Kenny says in S1 about how katjaa shouldn’t have given up and how it was wrong

[@AdamasutojrAJR]

I thought he was considering it after losing sarita

[@m_axj]

Wow! The flashback at the end was so completed I can't believe they cut it! I'm desperate to see this depot version I bet it has Mariana's original death in it omg, hopefully one day we can access it

[@appleface304]

“Last episode.” I mean I’m not complaining but it’s funny to me.

[@brindcr4953]

S3 never clicked with me,it was missing something

[@twosense7723]

Joan being Eleanor's mom makes so much sense considering the theories people had about her being a NF spy. That would've been so cool.

[@velvet3302]

is it possible we could ask a developer for the password to the earlier versions of the games

[@ajxx9987]

Someone with enough skill could hack the passwords

[@InColdBloodTTG]

I don't think so, Skybound owns the rights to the franchise now.

[@michealjacksonsinnocent2488]

@InColdBlood true but I don’t see a reason as to why skybound would want to keep it a secret forever

[@Bestgameplayer10]

InColdBlood - I mean, unless Skybound changed the password, I doubt it really matters. It’s just a matter of the person getting in trouble for giving the password away. And yes, they could be stay anonymous as I’m sure many people from TellTale know it but I don’t think anyone would wanna risk that legal action being taken against them.

[@ajxx9987]

@@Bestgameplayer10 how about hackers? They never care about legal or illegal, they just do their job

[@maggiejenson4129]

This game was a total wreck. A few things that ticked me off: -Clementine knows about gun safety. Even if she was 100% certain the bullets were faulty, she would never point a loaded gun at someone she did not intend to kill -- as established in S2 when Sarah has the gun. -When Tripp dies (if you saved him from Joan), there is no music. No dramatic anything. I don't know if this is also true for Ava's death, but I'm willing to bet it is. -If you don't kill Joan, she's just... gone. MIA. No resolution. -I really, really did not like Kate. She was childish most of the time and the way I was railroaded into having a romantic relationship with her was infuriating. When I told David I had never, EVER done anything with her, David was still pissed at me (didn't believe me) and Kate was also pissed. I wanted to try to date Eleanor, as we flirted upon my arrival to Prescott-- but no, they needed Eleanor to be a piece of Tripp's creepy infatuation. -Why did Eleanor snitch to Joan about or plan? I'm not sure if you are upfront about Conrad's fate in the train, or if he doesn't die there at all if someone else is a snitch, but it just didn't make sense with her motivations to me. If anyone would snitch, I would imagine it to be Tripp. -Jane and Kenny's MODELS. Yeah, killing them off was a cheap move (and especially Jane's death didn't make any sense with her character), but an expected one -- but good lord, at least make their models RESEMBLE them! -The story adds nothing to the overarching story, which we now know is all about Clementine. Without any of these events, we could have cut from the end of S2 to the beginning of S4 with a single scene explaining Kenny/Jane's fate. There's probably more, but this was just off the top of my head. At least the Final Season was pretty good (IMO), and since I preordered it on Steam I have all 4 episodes on there and not, like, half and half on Epic or wherever.

[@Miguel-wb8ev]

At least TFS was a massive improvement and for the most part fans liked the game than what they got in ANF

[@nightmarenight3443]

Honestly if they kept the idea of Eleanor being related to Joan, it would've given her more of a reason to snitch

[@zombified_pariah7720]

Kate was "childish" like ONCE in the entire game. She's one of the only like 4 decent human beings in this entire game otherwise. Her and Javi developing a relationship together also felt pretty natural to me. If nothing else, it feels satisfying to see David's reaction to getting cucked seeing as how he's an awful, unbearable, irredeemable pos (like pretty much everyone else in this game)

[@Virg0z]

Originally Eleanor was supposed to be related to Joan and if they kept that in the game it would have made so much sense because it just seems like Eleanor just decided to side with Joan for no reason really.

[@bomoore9872]

kenny's wasnt actually too bad, but jane got some plastic surgery. however in the definitive edition everyone doesn't look so oily

[@PlagueBunny]

Why can’t executives just let writers write. They have one job and these people won’t let them do it.

[@NiallJ]

Oh and we can all agree that no matter what, Jared Emerson-Johnson's music is always incredible

[@lewismclean9960]

I hope you Don’t stop making content on twd entirely, I love seeing your thoughts on the game, maybe you can review the seasons or even single episodes!

[@Bestgameplayer10]

Well, not much else to show off at this point unless he does Michonne (which he said he had no interest in hit hopefully he changes his mind). The best we can hope for as of now is that he continues on with other TellTale games.

[@Audacity74-h]

@@Bestgameplayer10this comment aged well

[@Bestgameplayer10]

@@Audacity74-h like fine wine

[@jackwalter73]

Never realized how long his neck was lol

[@yttanel]

LOL I never noticed that Rufus had 3 voice actors that was so funny!

[@megshipleysgames4041]

The sandra backstory would have been amazing

[@waterblazek2288]

That's exactly why I think this series should get remade in the future.

[@mathewrodriguez175]

Wow! I absolutely loved the video! It’s such a shame what ANF could’ve been. I want that game! I 100% agree with you about Kevin Bruner. He set his own company up to fail. I’m so glad that he’s gone and the new Telltale CEO will not make the same mistakes he made. Thank you for this video and I can’t wait to see your next one!

[@a.b.tplays3414]

I would have wanted clem try to get meds for aj. Get kidnapped leaving aj with the new frontier. While clem finds a way out javier is put in another jail cage taken from the dumpster where his family is. I would have wanted javi and clem to meet in the slaughterhouse in jail cells. And then a horde attacks the staugher house leaving javi and clem a way to escape. With their escape clem want revenge on the new frontier because they put them in the jail cells. Javier joins clem but its sure to join clem on him revenge until javi returned to the garade dump. And found out that the new frontier killed his daughter then after this he and his family join clem to get revenge on the new frontier and then other things happened. It should have been like that honestly i could write a whole plot with that cut context.

[@wink941]

Look how a normal person would make the game so much fucking better than the actual ceo made the game XDDDDD

[@RockCandy718]

Due to strict parents, season 3 was my first exposure to twd. I hadn’t seen any of the previous seasons, which is probably why I was able to care about Javi and his fam. Season 3 will always have a special place in my heart, but even I can see all this cut content would be ten times more enjoyable to play and experience.

[@dawson_cashwell]

Mason sounded like an interesting character.

[@dawson_cashwell]

what?

[@blurr2793]

A black ops reference

[@C0DYM4N99]

Mason kinda looks like Gregory from the TV Show in the concept art.

[@upanddowntwice1]

It was clear Eleanor betraying the group was planned from the start, I remember Clem saying in the first episode she doesn't trust her and I pretty much knew from then on that it'd probably happen sooner or later, but honestly the way they did it was so stupid. It was like they just had a checklist of stuff they had to squeeze into the story and that was one of them, regardless of how poor the story ended up being.

[@skyabove7304]

Thanks for not hiding how you feel about ANF, I agree wholeheartedly. Such a frustrating experience. I would've been even able to stomach all the crappy and cheap writing and handling of the game, but the way they treated characters from previous games (with turning Clementine into an insufferable asshole being my #1 issue) felt like such a slap in the face. They lacked vision for the game and competent managment and they paid the ultimate price. It's annoying that all we could do at the time was to just helplessly watch as they ruin themselves along with their most beloved franchise. Sorry for ranting, but I still feel passionate about it to this day.

[@wailmutt]

you thought ANF was bad (it low key wasnt ngl) you should read the clementine novel, it makes every rational fan weep

[@MaxCanonStunner]

​@@wailmutt oh no. Not those garbage books!

[@TheMarjer143]

Damn, you can tell a flashback’s sad when you get goosebumps and get emotional over the buggy-unused animations and sounds from it. MAJOR loss that the Sandra flashback wasn’t used in the final game.

[@fakeninja4447]

And we end off... where we begun. This was probably the best video you've ever made! Insane how it's been 3 years since your first upload, feels like yesterday. Yeah I remember that cut Kenny flashback with the lake, I might've actually been the one who asked Gavin that question, if there was anything cut from the story that he remembered. I still have parts of that AMA saved on my computer I believe. The weirdest thing though was how someone uploaded that image of the scenario on Reddit like right after Gavin confirmed it was real. How was that image even obtained? And why was it not uploaded before? I remember asking him how he got it but he didn't want to say for some reason. The concept art you showed looked INCREDIBLE by the way, especially how nature has slowly started to reclaim the abandoned cities, just how it would happen in real life. Now there's something that someone clearly put effort into, only for it to be thrown away of course. And don't get me started on the slaughterhouse... "I think the game is failed when it's more interesting to talk about what's not in the story, rather than what is." Well said. Your cut content videos have given me so much more than the actual game did, because everything that's actually interesting wasn't allowed to be in the game. It feels almost like someone in the Telltale management TRIED to bankrupt the company. "No no, this story is way too interesting, cut it all and write something else, you have 10 minutes". I'm glad to hear you're planning another TWD video! A surprise to be sure but a welcome one. I'll wait patiently to be notified :) take your time, hope you're doing well!

[@logantv1204]

16:57 if Kenny's original death made it to the game it would be more sad then the Kenny's other death lol

[@digtalfear1177]

It’s sad how much better this game could have been. You make an excellent point when you mentioned that examining the cut content is more interesting than the final game, you are completely right. This wouldn’t have been the case if a lot of this cut content had instead been completely. Damn shame

[@michealjacksonsinnocent2488]

Imagine If Kenny and Jane came back in episode 3 and turned out to be at the new frontier. It still could have worked out in the story and pacing all they would have had to do is just kill Tripp during the attack on the slaughterhouse and you could replace Tripp at any point in the story with Kenny and Jane. And not to mention they they should have made us chose between Kenny and Luke at the end of season 2

[@nightmarenight3443]

Exactly I mean honestly I would've picked Luke because he deserved more time and Kenny's character arch would have best ended in season 2 as it would fit his character

[@haha-zp1yj]

Javier speaking Spanish at times was for me really heart warming bc it reminded me of my uncle that’s named Javier from the voice to how he kinda looks

[@t8537]

I loved this video, thank you for giving us more of an insight as to what was suppose to happen. It always felt so strange to me that Clementine was only playable in flashbacks but it seems she was suppose to have much more of a protagonist role, I remember when this game was advertising I assumed we would flick between both her and Javier each episode. So much cut content, I wish we could see these games remade to their full potential. Never gonna happen though. Again, thank you!

[@q_q123]

The Kenny death is fucking terrifying. Holy shit?

[@X1GenKaneShiroX]

The cut content is always interesting to hear about.

[@KellieRobinson965]

Thanks for all the hard work you do, even for a finished series. :)

[@someperson8547]

Holy shit, those Sandra/Clem animations :((

[@lorikeet6782]

Been waiting for this! Thanks for putting so much work and passion into these videos. It helps make up for the lack of those that were felt in ANF. Looking forward to the next one

[@NiallJ]

Lovely video as always :) It is so so frustrating seeing all that effort go to waste. Sandra protecting Clem like that is just... 😥😭 Can you imagine how powerful that scene would have been as the intro? Holy shit

[@Tundra-27]

I honestly enjoyed a new frontier, and I still do but it's pretty sad to see just how much better it could of been, slaughter houses are pretty good in horror settings and the sandra flashback would of been amazing

[@jaytonius560]

Thank you for giving us cut content from what is considered the worst season of this franchise! 👍🏻

[@introvertedspider4857]

I liked some parts of the season but overall I rank it lowest in all the 4 seasons

[@ajxx9987]

It could have been one of the best seasons of all time though

[@shadowXD00]

​@@introvertedspider4857Michonne is worse

[@melanix8]

It was 5:30AM here, where I am living when I woke up and started watching this video, but I didn’t care! I just needed to watch this. Thank you, InColdBlood! :-) I really wish we could see Clementine's flashback with Sandra and scene in the slaughter house, because that was the scene I was waiting for during watching gameplay from S3EP1 for the first time. I can't believe that those scenes which could be really good, were cut for no big reason. However, I am glad that scenes like Mariana as a walker and Kenny's original death were cut. "In the original version of the story Kate's character didn't exist"? Oh... well... how sad (sarcasm, I wasn't a big fan of Kate and that’s because of her character, relationship between Javi and David looked like it looked). I still can’t believe that Season 3 could be a lot better than the final version of it, but at the end, it ended up as (in my opinion) the worst season of The Walking Dead Game Series. Because we already know what Season 3 turned out to be, when we compared original version of the story with the final version of it, I am not surprised that Telltale Games was shut down. I am not surprised at all, which is kinda sad, especially after great Season 1 and really good Season 2. So many things that were just cut and why? Couple months before the premiere of S3EP1, in July 2016 I think, we could see like 3 screenshots from the game, the same screenshots we could see in this video - first one with Clementine and Javier in the slaughterhouse, second one with Clementine and AJ in the alley, third one in Prescott, we could see Clementine and Javier during chatting or more like during arguing. And absolutely none of these scenes we could see on those screenshots happened. I remember that after the premiere of the game I was really disappointed.

[@practicalpisces]

That Spanish-speaking scenario reminds me of Telltale's Jurassic Park. Trying to find the words for "You need rest." 16:47 Sounds like Kate Chopin's "The Awakening." (I just spoiled the ending.)

[@ianf8390]

Very interesting! Really fascinating how un-organized this story is. It’s almost as bad as season 2, but at least in season 2, the story was somewhat coherent. I really didn’t like anf. Your points are very, very accurate. Glad I’m here. Lookin’ forward to the next one. -Ian

[@WiiLima]

For me season 2 was great.

[@ianf8390]

William M I thought it was alright. The problem is when you play through it multiple times, you notice how much of it makes little to no sense. Like take Luke, 400 days, and Nick’s characters for example. They just all got killed for no reason. 400 days characters were supposed to have “a huge part of the story” in season 2. They were in 1 or 2 cutscenes and they all were killed off... I think. See you wouldn’t know, because they don’t show you. Luke’s death was seriously just dumb, then Bonnie, and Mike taking off with Arvo was just not-plausible. But that’s just what I think. Would like to know what you think! There’s a community tab open on season 2’s dark story. I’ll link it here, have a read, and let me know what you think! -Edit: here’s the link. community.telltale.com/discussion/119722/season-2s-original-story

[@poxy5122]

@@ianf8390 Yeah, I heard it was originally supposed to be Luke vs Kenny instead of Jane vs Kenny, which would've been so much better honestly, that would've been much more conflicting then some random chick who taught me some stuff and then left vs Kenny, who knew Lee and was part of the original group of survivors and has shared trauma with Clem.

[@ianf8390]

Poxy Exactly. It made much more sense and the stakes would be higher, more stressful than some random chick who gave you a nail file and took a hike. Mike, and Bonnie who cared about you and your well being, took off with some random russian kid who almost killed you... not-plausible. Just disappointing.

[@MaxCanonStunner]

​@@poxy5122 I heard that Luke was replaced with Jane and gave him a cheap death because of Cluke shippers.

[@lauartel]

It would’ve been so cool to see a first person view of clementine escaping to the tree house. And it going back to present day to lee opening clem’s back door

[@kai9146]

The whole slaughterhouse plot and Clem meetimg Javi there would have made so much better plot wise

[@mushroomfiction1250]

Honestly season 3 could have been the best season. It makes me sad to never see what could have been. Also honestly the marketing team shouldn’t be the ones to decide what a good game is, that’s why you hire artists, writers and etc. You hire them for their talent and cause they know what they are doing.

[@Doom_Hawk]

I don't know how accurate the entire thing is, but I remember back in the day that I read about how the Michonne series, which I did still enjoy to a degree as a comic fan, was supposed to star Javier and give us his backstory as to how he was branded and his family captured and it was to take place in Texas. Then, the story was going to go more like it seems here, with a slaughterhouse and The New Frontier being led by 'Mason' and being much more like a cult than a community of survivors. It all sounds rather intriguing, regardless of the authenticity of all of the details. Seems more like a horror story too, and that would be awesome for The Walking Dead, so if any of it was true then I'm pissed off at their decision to change the story because it never "felt like The Walking Dead". The ideas here all remind me of Starved For Help and the Fear the Hunters comic arc. AKA, two of the best parts of the game and comics.

[@theloaten17]

Pretty good video dude. It really sucks looking at the "what if" scenarios with this game's development. Especially with how awful it was. I will never understand for the life of me why some of these decisions were made (Although I am glad that Kenny death scene was cut, seriously what were they thinking with that one)

[@bomoore9872]

his suicide would've made a bit more sense despite his love for clem and aj. this man has lost so much. janes suicide was stupid. they should've switched the season 3 deaths around. jane dying in a car accident seems more likely then suicide

[@theloaten17]

@@bomoore9872 True it would make sense from a logical standpoint. At the same time though it still would've been lazier and less "tragic" than his death in the final release.

[@bomoore9872]

@@theloaten17 i dont know maybe, the writers ideas originally seemed really good, so maybe. i do get that though, seeing clem watching kenny actually die in a car crash may seem more tragic then waking up to find him dead in a lake

[@llamallama8886]

maybe the creators will be kind enough to give you the passwords to previous versions that would be a miracle wouldn’t it

[@InColdBloodTTG]

I think it's more likely that someone would contact me privately about it. I think if someone gave me the password that would bring up a whole world of legal trouble lol.

[@Eduardesuper]

@@InColdBloodTTG Would you get into trouble? Not like you've signed anything, or whatever.

[@breathexp]

@@Eduardesuper seems like people who might give the passwords to him would get into one

[@TKsh1]

Sandra's flashback would add so much fot the game, it's a shame what they did with the character.

[@MrFasoal]

Man these videos come out of nowhere but they’re such a treat 😂🙏 Keep the good job up bro

[@SomeAustrianGuy_]

The game isn't all bad, but the way they treated ma boy Kenny is unforgivable. Also, the cut story sounds so much more interresting... Also also, that Sandra scene...

[@jaybewavy]

Honestly all I enjoyed from ANF was Jesus and Clementine, THAT'S IT

[@ijoel_jess8289]

Sandra just became one of my fav characters over that one animation where she grabs the zombie's leg to protect Clem, I just... Gosh why the fuck did they have to scrap that scene-

[@harryb4964]

Even though I like season 3 it is just straight depressing to think about what this season could have been. It genuinely sounds like it could have been the best season yet, had it gotten the time it deserved. The slaughterhouse sounded really cool and the old environments in the concept art just look fantastic. The idea of constantly switching between javi and clem, maybe making Choices as one character that could impact the other just sounds amazing. Also, is it just me or does the realistic art style season 3 has look much better in old pre-release screenshots than in the actual game. In the actual game, the comic book art style and realistic look clash but it looks good in the old screenshots. Petition for ANF to be remade with the original story, characters and look.

[@dammitbecca]

I remember when i first watched season 3 gameplay i was like "but none of the screenshots we saw before the release were in the game" Now i know why...

[@dammitbecca]

I noticed at 7:27 that the small door behind Javi is the same exact door as the shed where clem and aj hide in and meet ava but retextured

[@ofearghailthefearless6481]

Wow, I had no idea very bad things were happening at Telltale during ANF's development. Now I outright sad for Telltale's employees. I was hoping they would do great after The Walking Dead Season 1 and 2 and Wolf Among Us but damn did they fall from grace once ANF was released

[@burningexeter4365]

I'm really 50/50 with this - even though I did really like A New Frontier, I do think all of these original concepts are interesting as all hell and a lot of them would've been superior especially with the slaughterhouse section.

[@georgearch8917]

The thing with Kenny walking into a lake and going insane singing to himself as he slowly drowns himself sounds so cool until you find out it's ABOUT KENNY A character that should not be thrown away in a shitty "Uhhhh he went insane" plot beat

[@lokiikol2917]

So hearthbreaking to see how people were treated at Telltale. I love the games they did so much, and they have shaped me during many difficult moments in my life, that seeing them being mistreated is just unbearable. The quality of the games they did, despite the chaotic context in which they were developed, is a testimony to the skill of the people who worked there. I really hope that wherever they are they are happy and still working on great games! I know it will probably never happen but I would love to see the teams reunited under good and humane leadership to create a new the walking dead series. it would start with Lee again but then would evolve completely differently like an alternate story. it would make sense because the walking dead was always about how the game adapted to the player's choice, although it was still very limited due to development constraints. What if Clem and Lee stayed at Hershel's instead of going with Kenny? What if Lily hadn't shoot Carley(or Doug)? What if the boat had not been stolen? What if Lee had not been bitten? What if Duck and Kaatja made it in season 2? The list is so long and there are so many ways of fixing what bad leadership did that I will just cling to this dream. thank you for your amazing video !

[@sebastianperez7728]

13:27, with the title graphic and the line "Nothing up there but garbage." just fits the tone of the video perfectly. Absolutely hilarious. In all seriousness, great work on the video and bringing this detailed, insightful, and overall just super interesting series to an end with a bang. I have been marathoning your videos all day today after finishing the final season last night, and this has been a great way to keep me immersed in the series. The slaughterhouse itself is a very interesting concept and seems like a great inciting incident for this alternate, cut version of ANF. I can agree with the point that just having the action sequence at the slaughterhouse wouldn't have automatically made the game good, but I think a lot of the ideas it sets up for, had they been cashed in on, could have cascaded into a better story for both Javier and Clementine. Having them meet in the slaughterhouse prison (assuming that was even the plan) rather than the convoy crash sets their relationship off on the right foot as they need to rely on each other to survive in a new, unfamiliar environment. Having Javier's goal be to get his family back, aligning it directly with Clementine, also does a good job of kickstarting their bonding. Trent's group raiding the slaughterhouse and rescuing them also makes them seem cool and competent, rather than the traditional "odd misfit in a new group that brings misfortune and drama after ruining the community" that we've seen time and time again. Of course, if they wanted drama later, that's fine, but I think on starting premise alone the slaughterhouse would have been a better introduction for the wider group as well. Overall, I think the slaughterhouse introduction to the characters solves a big problem with ANF: having to choose between Javier's story and Clem's story, figuratively speaking. With the two more intertwined like this, Clem feels more like a valuable part of ANF's story rather than a tangential relic of an unrelated story that has to keep pulling the plot back to her since that's why most players are there (and because the ANF characters won't be around after this, thus their stories don't matter as much as advancing the AJ plot). The two work in harmony rather than discord. Perhaps I'm being too idealistic about how good it would have been for the story (and it always could have been messed up later down the line), and maybe execution would have left the premise falling short of its potential, but oh well. Not much we can do about it now. Like I said, it's been great to see the wealth of interesting content on this channel and it's kept me thinking about the series after finishing the final season last night. All throughout my Season 4 playthrough, I was hit with the feeling that everything was coming to an end. Not just the series, or the studio that made it, but that style of point-and-click adventure game. We see eras of game genres and trends that push old entries out and usher in new ones to be the vanguard moving forward. We all know that part of Telltale's downfall was their failure to innovate, and as such playing through their final game felt like the culmination of all that stagnation. The Final Season was a relic of a bygone era, as teams like Supermassive Games gear up to take the genre to new heights. It was simultaneously the progenitor of the genre's success and now this stunning display of stubbornness, clinging to outdated mechanics. I'm glad I got closure, and for what it's worth I by-and-large liked it as a conclusion of the series, even if the cracks in its development process were visible at every turn. To me, TWD games will now stand not only a great game series with a troubled and turbulent midsection, but as a cautionary tale for the industry, a time capsule of a poor development paradigm, and a damn bleak experience when you realize that even if it didn't come to a perfect end, it almost didn't come to an end at all, which is far scarier. And your cut content videos gave a peek behind the curtain to the rest of those aspects of the game, going beyond just what we see when we play. Thank you so much for that, and as you eventually leave the series behind for what comes next, I will be incredibly interested to see what you have in store. TL;DR A long ass comment on how the slaughterhouse could have made ANF better, TWD as a piece of gaming history and a tragic metatextual tale, and a note of thanks for this great channel and video series.

[@InColdBloodTTG]

I love comments like this. It's so well written I honestly can't think of a response other than a lame 'I agree', particularly about Telltale being a cautionary tale. The sad part is that, at least for me, I saw it coming a mile away. I knew the final season was going to be the last thing they ever did, though I never imagined it'd happen half way through development - I'm also glad we got a conclusion, even if it neccesarily isn't one I would have wanted.

[@sebastianperez7728]

@@InColdBloodTTG If I could heart that comment back, I would. Made writing it worth it. I was distanced from the studio implosion when it happened (wasn't following TWD at the time) so it kind of came out of nowhere for me. I really delayed finishing the series for a while (had the Final Season disc for almost a year and never bothered). If anything, the saddest irony is that the illusion of choice came about first because of a tight budget and too many possible continuations to plan for (S1), then because of studio crackdowns (S2 + S3). And finally, when they reached the final season, when they were actually able to support branching paths because there was nothing on the other side of the narrative for them to have account for the branches of, the death and subsequent hasty salvation of the project forced them into the same linear narrative. It's the illusion of choice again, in much the same form solely in terms of how it appears in game, but its an illusion of choice born from a completely different constraint in the development process. And knowing that the one chance they had to really do something special got snuffed out when they were so close is damn sad in its own right. The ending we did get really did seem to be as broadly appealing as possible but when you realize how fragile it all was, it's not something I can condemn the writers for in the slightest.

[@glitchglue3900]

The kenny thing sounds like some sort of edgy creepy pasta

[@bomoore9872]

i guess i would want the sandra scene at least, but I have some closure knowing what happened based off these animations, she opens the door after hearing scratching and looking through the peephole. she gets bit, the walker goes after clem but sandra pulls the walker back to help clem, clem gets up, grabs her walkie talkie and runs to her treehouse

[@DREWUTNIA666]

Lol they really destroyed this game, it could have been so much interesting if they wouldnt cut it.

[@charliefunk3309]

The writers of The Walking Dead: A New Frontire weren't the same writers from the previous Walking Dead games.

[@drcheesenut896]

@Bot Error Both ANF Kenny deaths are bad imo. The one where he drowns himself contradicts his character so much, this was the same guy who gave a speech in Season 1 about how suicide is the wrong thing to do. But on the other hand, we have the final one, the rushed car crash that goes so quick I can barely feel sad about my second favorite characters death Although most of the original ideas were better, Kenny's death is awful either way

[@Egg_Savior]

Thanks for giving us more content, this is awesome.

[@memestealer8857]

I liked season 3 for some reason, it still is one of my favorite twd games season 4 I think is better tho

[@claypot]

7:35 yes actually, that's literally the first arc of the comic/show lmao

[@DalekOfChaos666]

Yikes it's worse than I thought. I thought it was bad that they just ignored the endings of season 2 and made Clem a side character in her own story in favor of a family no one cared about. I honestly would have preferred the originally intended game over what we got.

[@acidicrain2865]

The cut content in this video would have helped build more drama in the season. But they cut it out and now it’s shit.

[@Kyle_lofc]

This is so cool. I would love to see you do videos for cut content in other games. I do understand that maybe unused files are harder to find with other game’s though

[@lennynolennie5803]

The term "walking dead story" is such a bizarre concept to me, because it's implying that "The Walking Dead" is in it's own genre. I don't know about you, but I think every "walking dead story" told so far have been vastly different from each other, whether it be from the comics, the spinoff, or any of the games. It just seems like a cheap excuse to dodge the question, lmao

[@saedmax4656]

What question

[@junminlee6088]

pretty cool that you can explore around the map. I've seen other similar videos.

[@Kwjl]

Another great video, you are seriously my favourite TWD KZbinr

[@umutarpat1599]

You may have few subscribers but you will get what you deserve in the future. Dont worry about it :)

[@yifflorde528]

Another great video as usual. Seeing how much stuff didn't make the cut breaks my heart, the clementine flashback most of all. I'd pay so much to see it fully animated. My only question is that on the walking dead wiki it mentions the flashback as being in episode 5. Was it orginally going to be in ep 1 and then was moved to ep 5 before being cut entirely?

[@InColdBloodTTG]

So that was my mistake. Back when the game was being released, I kept noticing newer and newer animations each episode relating to the Sandra flashback and I assumed that since EP5 is the only episode without a flashback, it was probably meant to be used there. I had no idea they had made a fully planned out flashback and then cut it in episode 1 because that would just be insanely stupid and there's no way they woul- oh.

[@Sergeantnumnutz]

Amazing video as always, and as I assumed before watching I'm severely disappointed with what happened to this game. I know it'll never be known for certain, but I honestly think if they had stuck with the original story, or lets be honest any other story than what we got, that the game would probably be viewed as one of the better TellTale titles. Speaking of other titles, is there any chance you'd be willing to delve into other TellTale games like you have with TWD and TWAU? Assuming that there's anything to be found, of course.

[@InColdBloodTTG]

Going to do TWAU videos next.

[@poxy5122]

So when is someone gonna write a rewritten version of TNF but with the cut content story? Seriously would be epic

[@MeGongaga1999]

Amazing video as always! Hope you continue making cut content for games! Love how much work you put in to them!

[@matro2]

23:19 What a great piece of concept art. I really wish we got to see that place ingame.

[@ZarKus]

oh my god. if season 3 had this in it then if would be the best one for me I LOVE what was supposed to happen in the slaughter house

[@LewisBlake]

It makes me so sad to see how much better this season could have been. Do you have a link to the beta versions of the Minecraft/Guardians footage?

[@spanimator22]

Love your videos man, keep up the great work! I love the amount of detail and research that go into these. As a huge Telltale Walking Dead fan I adore learning more the obscure info about the series!!

[@joestrk1333]

Thanks for keeping on these videos my man. It's interesting to see what could have been, and awesome that you're able to still find meaningful content to show us. Much respect.

[@matt.ramosss]

yesss I’ve been waiting for this, I love your content man