Information on the BMW N13 1.6 Turbo PRINCE Engine. BMW F20 114i 116i 118i

Hello guys, and welcome to mattsbeamer.
Today I decided to put a video together based on the BMW engine called the N13. I don't know everything about the N13, so if you want to add your own experiences with the N13, a message down below, and ill add it in the description box, along with your user name. Its important we all share our stories to help gain more knowledge.
The N13 is an engine that was built between BMW and the big French group called PSA. PSA has several brands in its Arsenal such as Citroën, DS Automobiles, Opel, Peugeot, Vauxhall Motors, and a few other companies.
BMW started using this engine in 2011, in many of its small BMW's. It was used in the earlier F20s and F30s 114i,116i,116i ED,118i,120i, 316i, and the 320i ED. I believe the 120i only had it for a year before getting a newer engine.
It replaced many BMW engines such as the N43B16, N43B20, N45B16, N45B20S, N46B18 and N46B20.
Now we know what cars had the N13, what type of engine is it? Well, it is an inline-4 cylinder lump, which is turbocharged. I believe it was BMW's first turbocharged 4 cylinder engine since the old '70s 2002 turbo, but apparently, that thing was a beast of a car! The turbo on this car is a Garrett MGT1549ZDL. The engine block is made from aluminium, which helps reduce the weight, and has dual overhead camshafts with 4 valves per cylinder, so 16 valves in total.
As I mentioned earlier, BMW has used this on a few models, which means the same engine has a few different power outputs, which I shall put in a table to save your time.
Here is a list of known faults with the N13, if any of you know of any faults which I have missed out or new ones that develop over the years, I will type them up in the description box.
Vibration:
Some N13 engines are known to vibrate. If this is the case, then it could be down to dirty fuel injectors. Theys cars need a good spanking every so often to keep the system clean. I recommend the best fuel you can, as they are a bit fussy about what they drink.
Uneven idle:
If your N13 engine is running uneven, then there is a chance that the idling valve and throttle flap are dirty. A good clean can resolve this issue.
Thirsty for fuel.
Sometimes these engines can be thirsty when it comes to fuel, if this is the case the, check the airflow meter.
Thirsty for oil.
Make sure the car isn't leaking any oil or burning it. I've heard that they can leak around the Vanos. Look at the exhaust to check the colour of the smoke. If the smoke is blue, then it means its burning oil somewhere.
Timing chains:
I've heard somewhere that the timing chains on these engines can break, thou it is not as common as some of the more troublesome engines. The chain guides on this are better but the sprocket can wear.
The cooling system:
The cooling system on this variant, needs an eye kept on it. My car has done less than 40,000km, and it was changed at 25,000km.
A Tinny rattle on startup.
When you start the car and you hear what sounds like a loose metal type sound, but it goes away after about 30 seconds, then there is a chance its a wastegate rattle. I will leave a link in the description down below. BMW says that it is normal, but I must admit it isn't a pleasant noise, especially on a BMW. There is a clever guy somewhere, who sorted this noise out by utilising a VW clip. I saw this method along with a DIY on a random BMW forum.
Tuning the Engine.
These engines are very tuneable, mainly because the smaller models like the 114i and I think the 116i were de-tuned. So a slow 101bhp 114i can easily be tuned to 225hp. Micheal from Bimmer Belgium can explain how he did it.
I did find a BMW online book based on the N13, the only problem it is in Russian, but if you open this book in google you can translate it, ill add the link down below.
Spark Plugs/ Coil packs (n13) • HOW TO CHANGE THE SPAR...
Oil Change on the N13 • How to change the OIL ...
OPEN IN GOOGLE CHROME TO TRANSLATE TO YOUR DESIRED LANGUAGE www.bimmerfest.ru/dvigatel-bm...
Wastegate sound
• BMW N13 engine waste g...
A page on the Wastegate rattle fix www.babybmw.net/forum/viewtop...
Planet Auto Channel Link / @planetautouk
The man to ask about modding their N13. Micheal from bimmer Belgium
/ @bimmerbelgium2254

[@currysini85]

Some knowledge and advice on OIL! Do NOT use 5W30 BMW LL04! Do NOT trust your BMW Dealer on this one! The LL04 they use is designed for Diesel-Engines but also fits the requirements for Petrol-Engines. The BMW LL01 is designed for Petrol-Engines only and fits it requirements better. They just use LL04 because they can have ONE barrel for "all" the cars! The N13B16 has oil temps between 105-135°C. The zylinders and walls are even hotter than this! A 5W30 oil will just burn and it leftovers will accumulate in the wiper rings. The oil turns completely black really fast after an oil change (like 3000 km or something). Go check this out!. Also the car will consume oil; mine took 1 liter on 5000 km. That is pretty much for a young engine. BMW will say this is "normal" ... ye sure thing ... The mentiont 0,7 L/1000 km is ridicules and should be considered as an engine failure. On 35.000 km total, I was sick of it and switched to 0W40 LL01. This oil is perfect in any regard.. No more tar like oil. Even after 20.000 km it is only a bit brownish and traslucent! The consumption was cut in half with 1 liter on 10.000 km. Amazing! I change it every 17.000-20.000 km. Dont go for the full 30.000 km or trust the computer estimates on this one! Mine tells me that after 20.000 km driven, that an oil change is required in 25.000 km. Ye sure, 45.000 km interval. The turbo will LOVE this. And mine is chipped to 310 NM and 220hp ... for like 80.000 km now and a total about 110000 km. Engine problems so far: NONE!!!🤪

[@mattsbeamer]

Thank you!! I did notice that my oil dropped after 5000km too! I will try the oil that you Recommend! Thank you so much for the input for all of us to learn!!! Matt

[@Squilliam-Fancyson]

I also got this engine in my F21. I absolutely do not get why BMW recommends 5w30 oil. Changed mine to 5w40 which is a must for this car imo. Even considering going for a 5w 50 for the summer unless i manage to install a oilcooler. Oil consumption is about 0,65l after 6000km, which is fine I guess. Due to the high oil temps I will perform oil change every 10.000km. No matter which oil viscosity you run, the oil additives start to break apart once the oil goes beyond 120°. In other words, the oil wears down faster, hence Im going to change it every 10k.

[@florians684]

Hi, thanks for the advice, but I cannot find any Longlife 01 oil here in germany. Is the oil you mean BMW branded oder do you mean any Oil that meets LL01 and is 0w-40 Viscosity?

[@Squilliam-Fancyson]

@@florians684 Liqui Moly Hightech Leichtlauf 5w40 is the one that i use. Of course it meets BMW 01 Longlife spec. Edit: The

[@currysini85]

@@florians684 I got myself the Mobile New Life 1 LL01 0W40. But any other with LL01 will do. 5W40 will work too!

[@PlanetautoUK]

Talk about detail, lots of info, very clear and well explained, you are a fountain of BMW knowledge, thank you for the recognition 😀

[@mattsbeamer]

Planet Auto thank you so much Planet auto :) I’m glAd you liked it :)

[@TheOneMor]

Excellent information especially on the rattling noise and links well done 👌

[@mattsbeamer]

Glad you enjoyed it, cheers :D

[@slavsz7279]

Thank you for an excellent video👍🏻 My BMW F20 116i from December 2011 I had a couple of issues. 1. Water pump replacement as the old one had some crack and was leaking. 2. Issues with the Vanos, my car very often was going to an emergency mode and there was no full power so I had to buy a second hand one. 3. The steering wheel wasn’t reversing quick enough, the mechanic had to adjust some screw in the steering wheel column.

[@mattsbeamer]

Thank you for your input! I think BMW did a recall on the steering issue. In Russia they did anyway :)

[@matildaivanova8435]

My husband loves our engine. He also said thank you for the link to the Russian N13 site!

[@mattsbeamer]

Matilda Ivanova I am glad he found that book link useful. Take care :)

[@Suhailmaster58]

Thank you man. Amazing video. I have heard the rattle sound and spoke to bmw as well but got the same feedback. I'm glad I now have solution.

[@mattsbeamer]

Glad I could help in some kind of way lol. When I first bought the car, I just thought it was a heat sheild loose. I didn't research the engine at all, plus I couldn't understand the owner, as my Russian is awful :D

[@hassan150]

What advice did you get mate? I have this problem too...

[@heinovanrooyen48]

Thanks you for the video I was worried about the startup sound and this was very informative. Watch the video in the link. Thank you from South Africa

[@mattsbeamer]

I am glad it helped with your worrying :D Thanks :)

[@allablackcat9058]

Hey Matthew, another great video, I really love your British accent too!!

[@mattsbeamer]

Alla BlackCat 😂😂 thank you :D

[@lindypet7425]

Great vidio as always 👍 have a great day

[@mattsbeamer]

linda pet Thank you :D you too! :)

[@bernardwarr4187]

Great video. How many people are using these in motor sport and in what applications?

[@lloydvehicleconsulting]

Ah, the good old Prince engine, Mr Woollard! An excellent summary of this ubiquitous powerplant.

[@mattsbeamer]

Lloyd Vehicle Consulting Thank you :) I have been happy with this engine.. So far. It's amazing how many cars share this block.

[@lloydvehicleconsulting]

@@mattsbeamer, yes, it's a bit like the PSA 1.2 litre EMP engine which replaced it, but that didn't end up going into any BMWs. That has ended up in an awful lot of cars too. The 1.4 Prince engine that I drove in the Peugeot 207 last year, though, was not in very good condition, and I wasn't happy with it when it kept spluttering and stalling!

[@methuseliane1076]

This is useful information

[@ITom123ABCI]

Another video on common rain leaks for the F20 and how to fix them would be great! I have a leak into the passenger footwell - very annoying and can’t work out where it’s coming from.

[@mattsbeamer]

you so much for the idea. I shall look into this issue and make a video. Cheers!

[@bretttan88]

Hi bro, very good write up and solutions. But I would presume the idling valve is the valve that is on the valve cover? I’ve done the change but cold start is still having slight idling issues. It’s on MHD stage 2 and XHP stage 3. Ow40 synthetic engine oil, 135 intercooler, drop in air intake. 118i m sport from factory. It’s minimum but I can feel the vibration but it’s only at cold start. Turbo inlet is aluminium. The valve cover inlet to turbo inlet is also changed to silicon pipe. Do you have any idea what other stuffs I can check..? Appreciate much for your great help if u have any!

[@hugoohlson471]

Did a chip tune on my 2015, 116i pre-facelift, got from 136hp to around 220! Also got the M package which makes it a fantastic, sporty little car. I love it to bits! (Also wanted to add that in the LCI model I believe they changed the motor which makes it not as tune able.)

[@mattsbeamer]

Hugo Ohlson cheers for the input mate. Your car sounds like it’s a beast! Yea the 3 pot is not as easy to tune :) I hope your 116i keeps on being good for you :)

[@madalinnicolae5594]

How much the m package cost u

[@waterloo170]

I started using 10w60 Liqui Moly on my n13 with stage 1 310nM and 217HP. So far, I can see that the oil consumption is still high(aprox. 2 liters in 1 month 5000KM driven). What do you guys think about using 10W60 oil? The climate in which I use the car is aprox 40 degree during summer. Many thanks for this video

[@tp_2o23]

can you talk about the heat of the turbo? I notice even after short drive, the bonnet sides are super hot, it looks like the heat shield just bounces it and its so hot it could burn your hand. are there any negative implications to this heat to other components/ paint etc ?

[@griffonsa]

Once again great vid Matt... As far as I know, the block is PSA, but everything else was designed by BMW. The Peugeot 207cc has the same block, some Mini's do... But on the 116i, the Garrett turbo, and everything else is purely designed in Germany (do note: DESIGNED! Cause my steering rack is Made in China!! Radio is made in China etc). My 116i is an automatic and has about 11000 km and it isnt the most quiet engine. When you start is up, I also have that rattling noise at the wastegate. I know all about the VW clip that would solve it, but really not messing about for those 30 seconds of noise when your engine is cold. My car is quite lazy when I accelerate from +/- 1500 rpm to 2000, then it just goes! In Belgium its officially 0w30 oil they put in. I do dislike the fact they didnt implement a temp gauge in the display! One never really knows if the car is on the right temperature. Like I mentioned earlier, the steering rack is not great quality, and alot of cars made between certain dates were called back to repair the rack, preventively or after complaint. Also the AC compressor has its moods. Sometimes mine will slighty 'shake" when I'm idling with AC on, sometimes it wont… Seems like my car is female and it has it's moodswings now and again. Having said all of this, I do like driving it, although the overall finish is quite cheapish… I am not a fast driver, and maybe as you mentioned, I should put the pedal to the metal now and again to clean out the injectors.... Anyways, would be great to hear fellow 116i drivers their experiences! Cheers all!

[@mattsbeamer]

Such a good comment, thank you. Wow, I can't believe how low your km are, I thought mine was low for a 2012 116i auto. Its amazing how much of our cars components are made in China. I wonder if this will all change soon. I am not to bothered about the waste gate issue now, I am glad its not really a mechanical issue. I find the lack of the temp gauge very frustrating, ALL my previous BMW's (from the 80-00's had one). In the F20 I have to do the secret menu mode, to see the temp. I did make a video somewhere. I will have to make a video with other F20 drivers experiences. Cheers for your valuable input.

[@zygimantassiugzda5401]

I have a stage 1 F20 tuned to 202 bhp, no problems since the tune, but I wonder if I should go up to 220...

[@ctr111]

Hi. I have a fuel rail sensor problem, but can't find the fuel rail sensor to replace it. Does anyone have any ideas as to where it can be found? Thanks

[@dreamlost198]

Another video requested : how to be happy with your f20 for a long time advices

[@mattsbeamer]

Dream Lost that’s a good idea. I shall think :) cheers

[@transaction2005]

Thanks for the new video very clear with good explainations. I have two quick questions on N13 BMW f20... Do you plan to prepare any video on how to recharge the AC system with R134a? and where is ac low pressure port on our cars and how to access?? thanks in advance...

[@mattsbeamer]

Thank you for the kind comment :) As for the AC system, I don't really know much about that, as when I lived in England, you had to have the special certificates by law, to work on it. I did find this link thou :) www.newtis.info/tisv2/a/en/f20-116i-sha/repair-manuals/64-heating-air-conditioning/64-52-compressor/GzganE15 Its a great site :) Good luck :)

[@transaction2005]

@@mattsbeamer Thanks for reply.👍 ... Keep up the good work with your channel.

[@armadaro9234]

@@transaction2005 you can refill the coolant with a kit sold on Amazon

[@Middleman-slider]

Anyone know how to swap the oil feed pipe (the top one) to the turbo cuz mine leaking, it pissed out 2l of oil in a few months and I don’t even know where to start

[@JoeMlambo-us1ep]

What causes the fuse of the cold start sensor to burn out on the N13 engine

[@samuelnink2218]

I have a problem with fuel consumption and reaching top vmax. My fuel consumption is 8,5l !!! I always drive the same way to work every day , my normal consumption is 6.9 l. I drive always the same way with the same tires. I never had a problem reaching vmax (217kmh in eco pro) now I only reach 180 kmh in Sports+. I cleaned the Air mass sensor, but it didn't help. My last problem is my waste gate flap inside the turbo is rattling not the linkage.

[@Naaseg]

Most accurate video of this engine. I can confirm these facts are legit. I changed my timing chain and oil pump sprocket + chain. I remapped mine to an acclaimed minimum 145kW from stock 100kW (116i model). Got a drop in performance air filter. Recently did my clutch (bc clutch kicks lol). I run stock coilpacks + .53 gapped OEM plugs and LiquiMolly 5w40 synthetic oil. Car does make the turbo rattle and idles rough at the moment.

[@Naaseg]

Another common issue is the turbo inlet hose cracking on the turbo inlet (where the clamp is situated holding the plastic to the turbo)

[@3v0lut10n2nite]

any come. across where the exhaust is smoking on a BMW F20 116i N13 engine?

[@joshuadoliveiro]

My 2014 118i has about 140k km and needed new oil seals, valve cover gasket, coolant tank and a new cylinder head gasket as it was losing coolant. Runs well after doing all that. Really nice to drive with 170hp, just needs a lot of maintenance to keep it running well.

[@mattsbeamer]

Thank you for letting us know what these engines are like to live with. Cheers

[@Iain_C]

My wife's 207cc has this engine. It burns a lot of oil, is noisy, and is sluggish but runs ok. One of the spark plugs is always soaked in oil. Had the chain replaced as was a little stretched, that reduced the noise a little.

[@mattsbeamer]

Wow, sorry to hear that your engine has had many issues :(

[@Iain_C]

@@mattsbeamer i suspect the previous owner ran it on low / dirty oil. Probably needs to be stripped but not worth it.

[@costelariton9864]

Thank you for using my chanell for the Wastagte noise :-)

[@mattsbeamer]

Costi Ariton that’s cool man. How did you know I linked you :D

[@costelariton9864]

@@mattsbeamer :-)

[@Suhailmaster58]

Hi Matt. I heard you say these engines thirsty for oil. Meaning you have to keep checking oil right? It's not service to service kind of a thing. I got a same N13 engine f20 and my oil level drops too after certain times and I have to top it up. Other people say that could be a problem as their cars not the same but they are changing oil service to service only.

[@TheMichaelsVids]

Mine too mate :( . I have found some possible issues on some forums

[@KINIKs]

İ use 5*30 c3 castrol edge oil. Which castrol and bmw recommends. So far so good. About start up noise yes, it is bot pleasent for first 30 seconds.

[@mattsbeamer]

So far I have been very happy with this oil too. :) thank you

[@djdropdabitdropdabit9356]

I have a 116 I 2012 and since I bought it had so many problems . Like vanos , maf sensor , burns oils

[@mattsbeamer]

Sorry to hear that your car has had so many issues :(

[@mathieunagel812]

I have too filling 1 liter of oil ( 5w30 LL) every 1.000 kilometer 😏😏😏😏 it couln’t be normal 😔😔. Can you give me some advises please ? Thank you

[@demesorochester6412]

Hi Matthew, I notice my N13 is giving off some blue smoke. This only happen when I'm traffic and about to move off, it also happen sometime when I'm reversing. If I keep moving there is no smoke, could you please give me a bit of advice on what to do, much appreciated.

[@Guitarnoob99]

sounds like your head gasket has failed and so fuel is mixing with oil thus giving out that blue smoke you speak of

[@syw6965]

Think knock is a very common problem on these engines. Always requires high fuel quality and a proper spark plug gap.

[@mattsbeamer]

Hey, thanks for your input :). Yes very true, I can only use V power in min, or its not nice when it starts up .

[@armadaro9234]

Hi Matthew great video as always. Mine is 1.6i automatic and I've had coolant leaks at the turbo. The two pence gaskets cannot stand the heat in that area.

[@mattsbeamer]

Thanks for the comment and thank you also giving us more information : cheers :D

[@ramonbido2637]

Hello armadaro, did the coolant leak at the turbo made a lot of white smoke at the exhaust? Can you please confirm

[@armadaro9234]

@@ramonbido2637 hi no I didn't have any white smoke. There are two small pipes on the right side of the turbo for the coolant. I noticed traces of leakage around the junction of those pipes.

[@ameerhamid7127]

@@armadaro9234 simple O-Ring replacement fixes this.

[@sefatsaselane504]

My car is from service by bmw,but when i drive it i see smoke at theback.What may be the cause of smoke.

[@rechardkhanitoola2838]

Any video on how to remove exhaust vanos solenoid in the n13?

[@mattsbeamer]

Hello, I haven't had to do it yet. I know that it's apparently not as easy as the n52 on the old 3 series. Sorry.

[@GT-cw4tj]

Hi Gents, i have a 2014 118i and have had a rough type idle for some time. The bmw dealership cannot tell me what the issue is after injector replacement, full major service, coil packs, charge pipe replacement etc. What happens is that when i drove for a while, stop, switch the engine off, then when i start again there is almost a hestitation or jerking in the engine, almost like a misfire but with a struggle to breathe... Can anyone please advise? I will appreciate your input

[@nasumgambi2447]

May be CCV/PCV valve

[@sithabilenombika1198]

if anyone knows what causes drivetrain error? on the F20 118i 2011. how does one resolve this issue if it keeps coming back even after taking the car in for repairs?

[@Andy-zy6yk]

Bit late years ago on ours it was the vanos that caused it.

[@florians684]

Hi, a lot of people have problems with the PCV system. Broken PCV lines cause vacuum leaks which lead to a lean condition, which causes rough idle or even stalling. Also for PCV, there are PCV valve membranes inside the valve cover. The only way to fix it correctly seems to be installing a new valve cover. I personally experience shaky and hesitant acceleration and shifts (manual). I discovered that there is oil around the lower PCV line that connects to the air intake tube in front of the turbocharger. Also I could hear air escaping when pressurizing the intake with a glove and a bicycle pump. I will replace it and tell you if it improved the situation.

[@naliinsuthakaran2967]

did it solve the issue?

[@floriansaurwein1895]

​@@naliinsuthakaran2967 well, there actually was a leak in the PCV line I replaced it. Also beware that the hose that connects the turbo to the intake / MAF sensor WILL break when you try to pull it out as the material is of very poor quality. I would say that I don't know if this improved smoothness, because I did a few other things: Replace spark plugs and ignition coils, especially the ignition coils fail early and cause misfires before that, put good gas and injection cleaner to clean the fuel injectors. The biggest thing that caused shakyness was the dual mass flywheel (DMF) It was worn down and allowed a lot of play, which reduced smoothness a lot (My car only has 120k km) I replaced it with a used one from a car that had 40k km and now the ride is as smooth as never before. I even have a "light" stage 1 tune which gives me about 170-180hp. You might also want to reset the DME adjustments.

[@floriansaurwein1895]

​@@naliinsuthakaran2967 My mechanic told me, that this engine is electronically supervised and controlled by the ECU / DME very well, so anything dramatic will likely cause a check engine light and anything that is not problematic won't. Of course in my case, it technically wasn't a problem, but the shakyness bothered me. In the end I had to pull the transmission, replace the DMF and hope that it would improve the situation which luckily, it did.

[@naliinsuthakaran2967]

@@floriansaurwein1895 thanksfor your response. We need more good information on repairs on the n13 as this is still a new engine in a way

[@mahmoudsobhy6775]

I have a problem with my car f30 316i when the car is cold and I started it make a vibration for a while tell it’s gets worming after worming the vibrations gone can you please tell me what is this - thanks

[@mattsbeamer]

Hey, does it sound like the wastegate rattle?

[@misamarkovic1156]

So where is timing chain located? Front or back of the engine? Does the engine must be removed to change timing chain?

[@mattsbeamer]

Hey, its at the front of the video, and there are people who are changing the chain with the engine in. I personally haven't changed one thou. Thanks for the question, I added it to my latest Q and A. Cheers

[@RaphaelPais]

There's another "common" problem, the water pump seal leakage... there are a few youtube videos about it, and also forum posts...

[@mattsbeamer]

That's very interesting, I will check mine out. cheers

[@nakpaou1728]

My car has done 160k (2013 118i). I an now experiencing coolant and oil leaks. I have replaced nearly every hose and coolant part (including the overflow bottle, thermostat housing, coolant temperature and housing). Basically all O-rings and plastic part related to cooling system needs to be changed. I am also experiencing oil leaks. As you mentioned in your video maybe vanos, but definitely oil filter housing and oil cooling needs all new gaskets. Other than that it still drives nicely. It maybe just that we in Australia being a hotter climate that euro cars plastics and orings die faster?

[@davidx90]

GREAT video! However it's a pity that you didn't provide the details about your engine. In example, how much your takes oil, how much petrol per 100km and so on... Some info about mine N13 from 118i 2013 170hp: Normal benzin consumption: 7,5L (on highway less, in city more up to 8,5L) Oil consumption: 1L/~12tsd km. The more agressive driving the more it consumes. I use SHELL Helix, HX7 Motoröl 5W-40 changing every 10 tsd km and I am really happy with this oil. My engine has some vibrations but you cannot really feel it when driving, it also has this metal noise in the first 30s after start. I had some minor issue with ignition coil which broke - you can easily replace it by yourself at cheap cost. I also had issue with the leaking cooling fluid. Unfortunately it was really costy, circa 330€ (germany prices) despite if was only a leak... For this car I think it's really important to change the oil on time and not to tank any shit petrol like E10... also do not give it full gas when the engine is cold, turbo does not like it

[@mattsbeamer]

solight777 that’s a very detailed insight to your engine. I will have to make a video on mine. I will add your info soon. Cheers :)

[@JustNeoS]

That's a lot of explanation about the engine, I have the n13b16 in an f20 116i and it seems to have an issue with the turbo, it blows off at like 2k revs and the turbo won't spool anymore until you let off accelerator and get back on, then it'll spool grand, same in 2nd gear it'll blow off at about 3k revs, no power, let off and get on accelerator and she'll go again, same through all gears, any idea why? Also i shall keep everyone updated if i figure it out myself!

[@mattsbeamer]

Hey, I'll shall look into this issue.

[@naliinsuthakaran2967]

it seems boost cutting

[@naliinsuthakaran2967]

check for boostleak and whether the charge pipe is split

[@TheMichaelsVids]

Dec 2011 118i, mine is still eating/burning the oil :D

[@SassyOnline]

For those watching. In my experience with my 2014 N13 116i I have only ever had one major engine issue and it was simply replacing a spark plug + ignition coil on cylinder 1 which died at a normal time. Absolutely no other issues. I have the wastegate rattle on a cold start, but it doesn't bother me at all. I purchased at about 25k miles and have got it to 48k miles now running 95 octane the whole time (I'm in the UK), services as the car has asked and putting in any brand of 5w30 whenever I've needed to top up. I haven't even done an oil change regularly, just when the car has requested a service. Brilliant engine in my opinion. I plan on tuning to stage 1, stage 2 and hopefully slap some forged bits + turbo on and get it stage 3 one day. Love putting my foot down and if you launch it from first it's something else, get's stuck at 5k+ revs through every gear and just flies like it's a VTEC Honda :').

[@mattsbeamer]

Thank you for your comment! I am glad that you enjoy your N13. I have been very happy with mine too. I think I will have to put another video together with viewers experiences with the N13, as I can't fit anymore into my description box. Cheers

[@strictlydope_]

Honda is better no problems

[@EE-nu2gh]

So complete and accurate information, thanks for the video. My car has the n13 170hp motor. It is a really reliable motor (to be a bmw). The biggest problem, as you mention is the cooling system... Water pumps used at all f models are really bad, mine failed at 40 thousand kms. Aside of that, really rock solid motor if you take care of it. Regards matt :)

[@mattsbeamer]

Thank you for your message. always an interesting read

[@Squilliam-Fancyson]

Is your engine still fine?

[@EE-nu2gh]

@@Squilliam-Fancyson yeah, still working great with 80,000kms

[@Squilliam-Fancyson]

@@EE-nu2gh nice. Mine too at 108.000KM.

[@griffonsa]

Matt, can you make a video on how to install on oil catch can on an N13? Would be awsome to know how to do so...

[@mattsbeamer]

griffonsa hey, I will have to look into it. It's not something I've considered :)

[@SassyOnline]

@@mattsbeamer I'd appreciate this too. I believe it's required to be able to get to stage 3 (although there isn't a stage 3 one I've ever seen... yet ;)) The N13 in a 118i has an oil cooler stock whereas 116i and below don't but apparently it takes changing quite a bit to retrofit one, struggling to find any information regarding fitting one of these to a 116i or 114i.

[@rajchoudhury5130]

MY 116I IS HUNTING FOR AIR. REVING UP AND DOWN. ANY IDEAS WHAT IT MAY BE?

[@mattsbeamer]

Hey, did you have any error codes? It could a number of things. One of my past BMWs had a split in the intake pipe, and it was talking to much air, which ment my mpg went down as the car was sending more fuel. Another Bmw I had, it was the ICV. It’s best to get the codes read to save money :)

[@KINIKs]

I am using 116i for 2 years now, i had just coolant leak problem. Thats it. Rather than that it is good engine

[@mattsbeamer]

Thank you :)

[@charliecairns2949]

Same here, had a coolant leak in the thermostat housing.

[@elvisbarasa403]

I did some bleeding on mine to let air out since it expands when hot and caused such leaks. It doesn't leak anymore

[@finleypdoherty]

I’ve never had any problems with my f20 118i, it’s been rock solid and very reliable, it feels nicely quick and pulls and sound very nice. MPG is ok but not the best. I think it is a much better engine than the 1.5 in the newer Facelift versions, faster and smoother Update September 2020: engine has started burning oil at 45,000 miles. Thinking it may be the valve stem seals.

[@bartlomiejk3879]

Do your engine burn oil? I have bmw 116i with only 38k miles on the clock and my concern is that I need to top up 1 litre of oil(castrol 5w30M) every 3k miles. No leaks. No noises. Drives perfectly.

[@danmoney9932]

F20 is 5 door and F21 3 door. You are thinking of the facelift or LCI models as BMW calls them.

[@bartlomiejk3879]

@@finleypdoherty thanks

[@finleypdoherty]

Barto Boy hi again, my engine has recently stared burning oil, it was flagged up in the service.

[@mattsbeamer]

Findoherty0697 I hope mine doesn’t start burning oil. What’s the millage on yours now?

[@xf7185]

Does this engine have a single or twin turbo or is it turbo AND supercharged?

[@mattsbeamer]

Sorry, I thought I replied. It has 1 turbo, but its a twin scroll type :)

[@xf7185]

mattsbeamer i am planning on getting a 114i or a 116i and remapping it. Would you recommend this? Insurance for me is a killer since im 19 (from the UK) but i really want a tuneable car for a decent price including insurancep

[@strictlydope_]

Just got a 116i 2014 , 113k miles got a bad burning smell in cockpit while driving. went through 2 litre of oil in 3 weeks of owning it ,engine overheated ,drivetrain warning ,reduced power ,bought from a dealership tbey gave me the car with one year mot and the handbreak doesn't work , still under 30 day warranty

[@mattsbeamer]

That is shocking (especially from a dealer) , what did you do with the car in the end?

[@hassan150]

90% of us have the turbo rattle problem🥲

[@ameerhamid7127]

Shell Helix Ultra 5W40 - BMW LL01. My motor has 165000 + KMs, - Issues so far: 1) Turbo charger coolant pipe inlet and outlet O-Rings changed, front and rear main crank shaft seals changed, Valve cover and vacuum pump seal changed. Coolant tank changed. I do have the startup rattle but to me its not a big deal, I know what it is, just too lazy to fix it lol... Oh and the engine intake pipe ( Part from the turbo to the MAF body) tends to break at the turbo side.

[@mattsbeamer]

Thank you so much for all your information. I am only at 42000km at the moment. :)

[@ameerhamid7127]

@@mattsbeamer I forgot to mention coil packs. I changed one just yesterday and changed one a couple years ago. I also did a drain and fill on the zf transmission at 100000kms. I have an annoying oil leak that I suspect is coming from one of the chain guide bolts. If it turns out to be that I’ll updated the comments.

[@ManUtd_Rules]

Hamid - and you still on original Timing Chain?. I have been getting the "Drive Train" message and my mechanic says its time to change the timing chain. The car is on 160,000km - about 120,000km he replaced the Timing tensioner. Does this model suffer same issues as the N20 engines?

[@ManUtd_Rules]

Forgot it's the 316i 2013.

[@ameerhamid7127]

@@ManUtd_Rules early versions of the n13 have been known to have issues with the timing chain “stretching” and the guides breaking. I’m now at 170k kms and on original chain. Normally drivetrain error is the result of one of the wheel speed sensors going bad or one of the ignition coils going bad. I’ve changed 3 of them to date and have a spare just in case the other one goes.

[@KINIKs]

İn city fuel consumpsion is 8,1 litres.

[@mattsbeamer]

thank you

[@thecampbelladventures4680]

Where do i find the engine number?

[@mattsbeamer]

Hey, this link should help :) www.newtis.info/tisv2/a/en/e46-320d-lim/repair-manuals/11-engine/11-00-engine/HncUawo

[@fisnikazemi259]

can someone with experience tell me, do you have any consequences for doing „stage 1“ do you have any problems and is it worth it i own a bmw 116i 2015 business.

[@mattsbeamer]

Hey, if your engine is the N13 engine, it maybe worth visiting my friends channel called bimmer Belgium. He did a lot of nodding on his old 114i :) cheers

I have 2016 Bmw 118i F20 but it has B38 1.5 3cylinder Engine but iy does not have so much difference with my fathers N13 2015 320i , just a little less torque hp and 0-100 but more efficient fuel consumption

[@nicicole0235]

Hold up 0.7 litres on 1000km that’s pretty much . So there must be a reason for this case

[@mattsbeamer]

Its crazy isn't it. Mine doesn't use a drop, and to be honest id be calling dealer if I was loosing that much.

[@currysini85]

@@mattsbeamer They will say its normal. 5W30 IS the wrong oil for this engine. See my other comment :) @mattsbeamer maybe you want to pin that 😉

[@mattsbeamer]

@@currysini85 oh thank you!!

[@thabomogwerane360]

I would not have bought the car if I knew that the French were involved in the engine compartment.

[@xXxBo5sANaCxXx]

Per forums this engine is TERRIBLE after 80-100k it starts to fall apart

[@stger2384]

Wastegate Rattle when cold fix vid is here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bpybnmOqlLWcicU

[@Wick1584]

Video doesnt add any info. Just post this as text on a forum

[@nieprofesjonalnie]

Citroen engine... 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@mattsbeamer]

🤣

[@user-jj6rw5bo9m]

The automatic gearbox is safe ?

[@mattsbeamer]

To the best of my knowledge it is a great gearbox, in my opinion, it’s best to service the gearbox, even though BMW says the gearboxes are sealed and the oil is for life. No oil is for life. They use this gearbox in many cars. I did do a brief video on it. Cheers for the comment :)