Installing a Brembo Big Brake Kit on the Widebody Mustang

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The brakes on the Widefox were adequate for cruising around, but I knew they wouldn't be very good for autocross or any type of spirited driving. I did some research on how to upgrade the brakes, and also talked with Maximum Motorsports on the best option if I wanted to compete at a high level such Good Guys Pro category, the Optima Ultimate Street Car series, etc. Their suggestion was to go with the Ford Performance 13" Brembo kit (part number M-2300-X) that would go directly on the car without modifications. I also looked into the 94-04 Ford Mustang Cobra brakes and the Cadillac ATS Brembo calipers that require a little spindle modification to fit properly. This video covers the complete unboxing and installation of the kit and the logic of why I didn't choose the Cobra or ATS brakes over the more expensive Brembo kit.
My name is Canaan Manley and I am the proprietor of Basin Motorsports. Basin Motorsports is a small garage in South Central Oregon aimed at rebuilding vehicles, making one-off custom parts, and documenting the process step by step for viewer enjoyment and intrigue. I'm an Engineer and Consultant by day, and have been a motorsport enthusiast for the last 30 years.
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[@CwasGood]

I did the insert ats kit, braking is awesome! Install was fun

[@BasinMotorsports]

Great to hear! I've heard plenty of good things on the ATS kit.

[@jimsgardensandrabbitry]

Thanks for sharing. You were much calmer in this video. Very informative and the view that you showed should help others trying to do the same thing. many blessings.

[@BasinMotorsports]

Next week's video shows a little frustration with another project. At this point the car is almost ready to go to meet my April 1st goal, but nothing is happening. We're just putting in extra hours around the property.

[@jimsgardensandrabbitry]

@@BasinMotorsports I so want to get out and get projects started outside, but snow, ice and mud is unreal. Have noticed Nikki hasn't uploaded for a bit. Hoping everything is ok with her. Going to send you an email about something I am hoping to do. Will send it in a day or 2. Blessings to you both.

[@BasinMotorsports]

@@jimsgardensandrabbitry We're doing just fine. Oregon isn't far behind California on doing a complete state-wide lockdown beyond essential necessities. It took us a good week to get the farm ready for 30 days at home without going out. We're moving goats around this weekend, and had to help dig up Nikki's parent septic lines today for a repair. We're ahead of schedule on projects, but not doing a lot of filming on anything right now. Just putting our heads down and working. Just send us an email, and we'll offer help as we can.

[@jimsgardensandrabbitry]

@@BasinMotorsports Praying for you both. I have stayed at home and have put all away jobs on hold. I did go to southern Maine today and just got home without touching anything. I am a hand shaker and it felt very strange to not offer a hand to anyone.

[@reinaldotrujillo7922]

Very informative thankyou for helping other people .

[@BasinMotorsports]

Glad to help!

[@frank3stangs]

Nice video! I'm doing the Cadillac swap soon! I have all the stuff, just haven't done it yet! I've spent about $470 from rockauto! Calipers are about $125

[@BasinMotorsports]

Are you opening up the spindle holes or bought offset pieces for the extra wide attachment? Under $500 is a good deal. Stainless brake lines also?

[@frank3stangs]

@@BasinMotorsports I was planning on it, didn't know they made a offset bracket! Already did a five lug swap and put the lines on then.

[@dinosfloorcovering]

Great video, as always very informative. Im gathering parts now, Ill be doing the ATS swap. Would you have any suggestions as to where i could get the proper stainless steel lines?

[@BasinMotorsports]

I looked via Google and can't find an exact part number for them. A couple different forums indicate you can use the same lines for the standard SN95 caliper swap. I know Maximum Motorsports, LMR, etc. has them. Fox Speed Division is also doing the swap current and does sell parts. He is on Facebook and has a website.

[@dinosfloorcovering]

@@BasinMotorsports Thanks for looking for me, I also found that Maximum Motorsports has a set that works PN# MMBK8F

[@TravisMorgan-hq9tl]

Thank you for sharing. Are you using a SN95 spindle and hub to do the Brembo conversion? Just curious what other parts I'll need for a stock foxbody.

[@BasinMotorsports]

I had a stock K-member on the car, so it used '94/'95 SN95 spindles and hubs. You'll need conversion fittings for the brake lines also if you haven't done that yet. You will also want SN95 lower ball joints or spacers to make the spindles attach correctly.

[@TravisMorgan-hq9tl]

​@@BasinMotorsports Thank you. Thats very helpful. I definitely want to use the Brembo's for the front. One more question for you. I'm also wanting to do the rear cobra disk brake conversion at the same time. What master cylinder would you recommend for this setup? Aside from the parts you mentioned above for the front is there anything else you think I'll be needing?

[@BasinMotorsports]

I would guess on the 94/95 Cobra master cylinder as it was what I used on mine. I had SN95 GT calipers on the green car. You may want to double check the correct M/C to use with Jack at Maximum Motorsports. He helped with all my component selection based on what I wanted with the car (widebody, etc.). You can decide on running a proportioning valve for the rear. I never got around to it, and it drove fine. If you want the optimum feeling, add one at some point.

[@TT-vy8oe]

Great stuff! I have a question about brake line information: do you know what brake lines work for fox body from hard line to ATS calipers or where I could get this information thanks!

[@BasinMotorsports]

From what I have read, any SN95 conversion lines will work. I know Maximum Motorsports sells them, and I'm sure there are other companies that also sell them.

[@TT-vy8oe]

@@BasinMotorsports that good news because I have those on my 5 lug conversion, thanks for the information, keep up the great videos !!

[@jessegaunt7033]

Did you have to change master cylinder for the added pistons in calipers?

[@BasinMotorsports]

No. I already had a '94 / '95 Cobra master cylinder in the car which was OK with the Brembo kit.

[@tyrellhamilton9399]

42mm caliper is from 94-97 Ford Taurus for the rear straight bolt in

[@BasinMotorsports]

Yes!

[@tyrellhamilton9399]

Basin Motorsports have you looked into maybe doing dual 42mm calipers in the rear the ratio, or maybe the 13” rotor conversion from bear for the rear?

[@BasinMotorsports]

@@tyrellhamilton9399 No. I haven't been able to push my current brakes enough to warrant going to something bigger.

[@scottanderson2291]

Did you have to change your master cylinder ? I am using a newer Fox master with a line lock and bias setup

[@BasinMotorsports]

Not for the Brembos specifically. I had already added a 94/95 M/C when I did the 5-lug swap. It was good for the Brembo BBK also.

[@scottanderson2291]

@@BasinMotorsports Would I need to ? I have a 5lug SN95 SETUP now. With braided lines - it appears to be an SVO? Fox master. With a Holley line lock

[@vol8585]

Hello, can I ask you an info about that Brembo M-2300-X kit? How deep is the caliper from the top (near the rims) and the finish front end near the rotors? I would link to know how deep it is the caliper to understand how many spaces I need for my wheels! Thank you! Stefano

[@BasinMotorsports]

I had about 8-10mm if I remember correctly. I had about 3mm from the face of caliper to the spokes on the wheel. That was my biggest issue beyond the brake line clearing the tire.

[@williamnichols1904]

What size wheel and offset are you running?

[@BasinMotorsports]

18x10.5 +23 Rovos Pretoria for the rear of an SN95.

[@summer_stormtrooper]

Hey man great video, I have one question, do brembo brakes work in the classic? I have a Ford Torino GT 71

[@BasinMotorsports]

They should assuming you have the correct attaching points. These were specific for the SN95 Mustangs, and you may need to make a bracket to adapt them to the Torino spindle. The Cadillac ATS calipers need a little extra work to fit, and are way cheaper than this kit.

[@summer_stormtrooper]

@@BasinMotorsports yes I have the concern that maybe they will not match because the size of some things are not equal and I have to adapt them, and the price may not be very convenient. I have not found videos or information of brembo brakes in classic cars of the 70's perhaps for that reason.

[@BasinMotorsports]

@@summer_stormtrooper I can only find kits from Wilwood and Baer on the Summit Racing website. There may not be a Torino kit from Brembo available.

[@summer_stormtrooper]

@@BasinMotorsports yeah I think that would be the only thing that work for me thank you, Almost no youtubers takes the time to respond the comments.

[@BasinMotorsports]

Shame on those other channels then! Glad to offer some help.

[@davedave2882]

Do you know where to get the rebuild kit for the 2000 Cobra R calipers?

[@BasinMotorsports]

No. I'd have to hit Google. I bought this set from Jegs, so they may have one.

[@davedave2882]

@@BasinMotorsports will do thanks.

[@MrBlackbutang]

4 eyes are better than 2 eye brakes. Love you’re jinks hat! Problematic

[@BasinMotorsports]

How would you define better?

[@MrBlackbutang]

@@BasinMotorsports 4 pistols are better than 2 pistons .

[@BasinMotorsports]

Agreed. The 4-piston Brembos were great.