Is Jesus God? | A response to Bart Ehrman

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@DDCaldwellnot1lost Жыл бұрын

Knocked it out of the park!!! Great answer! Love this channel!

@CNich90 Жыл бұрын

Love this channel! Always excited when a new video drops. Great job bringing each verse to light by showing the Old Testament references. God bless

@vince.sarigumba Жыл бұрын

This verse of the book of judith seems to promote infernalist view of lake of fire or hell fire. In relation to isaiah 66:24, mark 9:48 - Judith 16:17 “Woe to the nations that rise up against my people. The Lord Almighty will punish them on the day of judgment. He will send fire and worms into their flesh; they shall weep with pain forever more ” Let Us Pray And Hope To Jesus Christ That He Gives Us Mercy On Us All And That All Will Be Saved At The End By God's Grace. Let Us Pray and Hope To Jesus Christ

@DanielDiaz-kd7si Жыл бұрын

First off, big fan of your channel brother! It helped me a lot over the years! I’ve looked into the different ways that the word Kyrios would be used in the New Testament, similar to how people misinterpreted the word Aionios. And it appears that Kyrios not only can be used to refer to Adonai “God” but also lesser Lords from the Hebrew “Adon” here in this passage some Greek men use the word Kyrios to describe Philip, and course he is not the eternal God, but to them he is thought of as a lower case “lord”. Which was a term used commonly back then. “these then came near to Philip, who [is] from Bethsaida of Galilee, and were asking him, saying, ‘Sir, we wish to see Jesus;’” ‭‭John‬ ‭12‬:‭21‬ ‭YLT98‬‬ You done amazing word studying the word aionios, I thought it would be interesting to see the different perspectives about the word Aionios. I recommend the Biblical Unitarian KZbin channel to check out their perspectives on some of these verses if you’d like to do some research. Keep up the good work brother! Love you in Jesus’ name!

@thetotalvictoryofchrist9838 Жыл бұрын

I'm a Trinitarian, not that I don't understand why some would gravitate toward the Unitarian concept, it's easier to comprehend. But one thing perhaps you haven't considered is in the ancient world to be the "son of a god" meant that you are in some sense the embodiment of that deity, gods beget gods. Hence: "For this reason they tried all the more to kill him; not only was he breaking the Sabbath, but he was even calling God his own Father, making himself equal with God." - John 5:18 So that would have been more obvious to them back then than it is to us today.

@njo191 Жыл бұрын

Excellent video! I've never actually heard many of these points with regards to Mark's Gospel! Very informative!

@jamesbarringer2737 Жыл бұрын

I think there is the possibility Bart is a double-agent - I.E. acting as a skeptic , but really serving as an instigator to get people to actually read and discuss the Gospel. Of course that may be very wrong, but I find Bart’s assertions are so easy to refute, and he certainly energizes both believers and unbelievers to actually read the Bible with a certain kind of intensity that wouldn’t happen otherwise.

@thetotalvictoryofchrist9838 Жыл бұрын

I'd like to think that about Bart.

@vince.sarigumba Жыл бұрын

@joezapata2107 Жыл бұрын

One would think that something so profound and awesome would not be evident and plain in the scriptures. It should have been boldly proclaimed in the Gospels.

@bradvincent2586 Жыл бұрын

It is the glory of God to conceal a matter and the glory of Kings to search it out. So I believe there is a certain importance to things not being immediately obvious one way or the other. Although I believe the life of Jesus teaches us we can attain instantaneous God-inspired knowledge

@jesusisgodalmightyamen492 Жыл бұрын

Shalom my beloved brother Michael. Peace be with you. Thank you for re-uploading this video. It is one of the best videos we yet have seen on YT. May our heavenly Father continue to bless you, your loved ones, and all those who are witness to this truth in Christ, Jesus our Lord. To God is all the glory.

@vince.sarigumba Жыл бұрын

brother i have some question because the majority of christian theologians and also calvinism and arminianism christians they believe in eternal hell fire because they believe that hell is for purpose of wicked to burn eternaly and eternity hell torture is that logic or In God's Character Of Love and justice? Is that what end of sin and wicked ness to be torture in eternal hell fire in eternity?

@jesusisgodalmightyamen492 Жыл бұрын

@@vince.sarigumba Shalom Brother Vince. Peace be to you. Thank you again for the many responses. Thank you also for reaching out to us for questions. No, this fairytale doesn't end sin and wickedness. Then how will He give ALL of us salvation, you might ask? You want to know how He does this? Through heartfelt convictions that cannot be denied, done by Him and through Him we will ALL come to the understanding how to love another as how we would like to be loved. Unconditional love. Know therefore that all will be justified in the spirit (also know as attitude), all will be sanctified in the soul (Also known as the mind, consciousness, mentality) and all will be glorified in strength (behavior). When this process is completely done by God, THEN and only THEN you are saved, also known as completely purified, healed. All creatures will have this salvation, all in their own order. *No exceptions.* All of creation will be healed from an attitude (spirit) of fear. All souls (mind, consciousness, mentality) will be purified from an egocentric state of being. (All souls are mine says The Lord) Because God's unconditional love will casts out fear, the fear of punishment. The punishment that fear brings in our daily lives. The fear by which we daily deceive ourselves and others, inflicting misery and destruction on mankind. God who is The ONE and ONLY Lord Jesus, who is the Christ, will heal, purify and save all of creation from this condition. Again, NO EXCEPTIONS. *This is the true Gospel of your salvation, Vince* If any mankind preaches another Gospel, may he/she be convicted by our Lord, holding a mirror for their actions. To God is all the glory.

@vince.sarigumba Жыл бұрын

@@jesusisgodalmightyamen492 Sister rachael chisulo she preach and she believe that a christian can forfiet and lose salvation because of our sinning, living in sinning, walk away from faith, disobedience, keep sinning, wilful sinning, doing sin, habitual sinning and also disobedience that can forfiet and lose salvation and end up in hell fire those christians and thats what sister rachael chisulo beliefs. Rachael chisulo also believe that we can earn salvation by our obedience and holiness and Not sinning and she also believes that we can forfiet and lose salvation because of our sinning live in sinning thats what rachael chisulo believe.

@jesusisgodalmightyamen492 Жыл бұрын

@@vince.sarigumba Shalom Brother Vince Peace be to you. If this is what she believes, then it is clear to us that she has a wrong understanding of our Lord and God. This way of thinking comes from a mind that believes in free will. We have no free will. God can and will influence our choices. Thereby nullifies free will. e.g. We hold no power over life and death. We have no control over fear. We cannot choose to either enter this world of fear and death or not. He is in complete control and declared the end from the beginning. Period. End of these philosophical scribblings that come from an adversarial mind. Again Vince, it's best for your soul to stay away from such disobedient children who have no understanding of God. To God is all the glory.

@vince.sarigumba Жыл бұрын

@@jesusisgodalmightyamen492 my pastor ondo and also the majority of people they believe in endless torment or eternal hell fire or eternal punishment and they preach that etern hell fire that never ends and they preach that and they believe that wicked fate is eternal hell fire thats what they believe

@GamingsMostAmazingSoundtracks Жыл бұрын

What happened to your latest video on adultery? Why is it deleted I never finished it and it really could have helped me please re-post it.

@vince.sarigumba Жыл бұрын

@NickSandt Жыл бұрын

It’s an interesting debate, one I’ve been following for awhile. I don’t have a belief either way and it’s not essential for the main message of salvation.

@edwardclancy8336 Жыл бұрын

Jesus said if you do not believe that I AM you will die in your sins. Does that sound unimportant to you?

@mattr.1887 Жыл бұрын

Jesus conquered sin. So how could you truly die?

@Eclectifying Жыл бұрын

@@edwardclancy8336he was saying that he is the Messiah, not claiming the Name of God. Read a few verses later in the next chapter when the man Jesus healed said the exact same phrase in Greek. No one accused that man of claiming the Name of God.

@NickSandt Жыл бұрын

@@edwardclancy8336 Yeah, what eclectifying said

@cc3775 Жыл бұрын

Jesus praying to the father, his God. And this is eternal life that they know you the only true God.

@rdaleyj1 Жыл бұрын

It doesn't often come right out and say that Jesus is God, but it does come right out and say that we are the temple of God in one verse, we are the temple of the Holy Ghost in another verse, and if we have not the Spirit of Christ we are not his in yet another verse. If a person can connect the dots in this way, the conclusion can only be made that Jesus is God.

@Boxing_Reviews Жыл бұрын

Wow I Love this video. And i love the jolly CHRISTmas background.

@clearlyweird Жыл бұрын

Hi! Love these videos so much. Can I get some recommendations on best bibles to use for best translation, concordances/ inter linear bibles ? Thank you!

@vince.sarigumba Жыл бұрын

i have some question because the majority of christian theologians and also calvinism and arminianism christians they believe in eternal hell fire because they believe that hell is for purpose of wicked to burn eternaly and eternity hell torture is that logic or In God's Character Of Love and justice? Is that what end of sin and wicked ness to be torture in eternal hell fire in eternity?

@TheHumbuckerboy 11 ай бұрын

@@vince.sarigumba Have you read any books about Christian Universalism /Ultimate restoration ? There are many really good, thought provoking books available. A great first book would be 'Heaven's Doors' by George Sarris.

@TheMashiachsfollower Жыл бұрын

Jesus is indeed God, the Son💗

@Lovingkindness. Жыл бұрын

I’m always stunned by the division that doctrines produce among those naming Christ Jesus as Lord. One insists that Jesus is God; another says he is just the son of God. Then ensuing disputes go on infinitely. So I ask those inclined to join such disturbances among believers, “is God still the savior of all?” “Will your belief change God or His work or His salvation?” Emphatically NO! Salvation is entirely the work of God and man can neither help nor hinder His plan. So, if you are offended by another’s beliefs, be the mature man and bring peace to them. God is calling, hear Him. Brother Lawrence

@JennyS161 Жыл бұрын

Amen! This is why we are told to be set free from the law of sin and death by the spirit of life in Christ Jesus! It’s the same as the flat earth versus spherical earth debate. They don’t change the state of my heart, either way. Bless you brother Lawrence. 🕊️

@Lovingkindness. Жыл бұрын

@@JennyS161 Thanks. Grace to you as we grow in Him.

@edwardclancy8336 Жыл бұрын

Jesus said “If you do not believe that I AM you will die in your sins. I AM is Gods name. So it is vitally important that you believe what Jesus said about Himself and if you don’t believe that I AM you will die in your sins that is worth getting to the truth even if it is difficult it is an act of Love as opposed to just letting them die in their sins. Only the Holy Spirit can do the work but we might be planting seeds or watering only God can give the growth so speak peace and the truth in love

@JennyS161 Жыл бұрын

@@edwardclancy8336 Jesus also said that we can say anything against him and the father, but if we blaspheme Holy Spirit, we are in big trouble. And most Christians don’t know who she is!

@Lovingkindness. Жыл бұрын

⁠@@edwardclancy8336thanks but I disagree with that religious view. God is the savior of all. I trust in Him and hope you will also. Jesus carried all sin into death, paying the penalty for all. May your faith be increased. Lawrence

@ironclad452 Жыл бұрын

I truly think the error comes when people don't understand what we're saved FROM. If it's "the wrath of God" then Jesus being deity doesn't make sense. But if it's "sin" (Matthew 1:21), then a claim for Jesus' deity makes more sense. Can a mere created being save us from our very nature?

@mattr.1887 Жыл бұрын

Those first few verses in Mark wouldn't necessarily clear Jesus as God to the Jewish audience at least. My understanding is that Jews have always believed (then and now) that the Messiah is simply an important figure - but is NOT necessarily God himself. As an example, this would be like me making the argument that Paul was more than just God's instrument, he was actually God in the flesh. Even the term "Son of God" - to my understanding anyway - doesn't necessarily mean literally God to the Jewish audience. If that's what was intended, then they would just say "God". "Son of God" would be a redundant and unnecessary way of communicating the same thing. Btw, I remain a huge fan of your channel. Even though I'm a former believer, I don't think you are wrong about everything, nor is even Christianity itself wrong about everything.

@alexanderthegoat Жыл бұрын

The verses in Mark are talking about how a way in the wilderness must be made for YHVH and Mark calls Him Jesus.

@benf101 Жыл бұрын

5:20 Jesus honored them because their faith was THROUGH THE ROOF!

@josephposey406 Жыл бұрын

Jesus is not God, but Jesus has a God Wherefore I also, after I heard of your faith in the Lord Jesus, and love unto all the saints, Cease not to give thanks for you, making mention of you in my prayers; That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him. (Ephesians 1:15-17) Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God. (John 20:17)

@amikkelsen Ай бұрын

Judgement came in AD 70, when the temple was destroyed, just like Jesus said would happen.

@TheWhyisthatso Жыл бұрын

The word "spirit" in scripture is a metaphor for the "mind" . "God is Spirit" ( John 4:24 )........"God" is MIND ( Thought and Consciousness ) NOT some "entity out there" somewhere . The Hebrew word for spirit is "ruach" and means "breath" or wind. The Greek word is "pneuma" and means "air" . The Latin word is "spiritus" and also means "breath" . When our breath, wind , or air goes past our "two edged sword" ( another metaphor for the TONGUE ) we form a "word" that reveals our "heart" ( another metaphor for our "WILL" of mind . "In the beginning was the Word ( Greek = logos = "Revealed Thought" ) and the Word was with God and the Word was God. " ( John 1:1 ) "The WORD of God is ALIVE and powerful, sharper than any two edged sword, piercing and dividing even unto the soul (flesh) and spirit (mind), the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the THOUGHTS and intents of the heart (will of mind). " ( Hebrews 4:12 )

@vince.sarigumba Жыл бұрын

my pastor ondo he rebuke me because he believe his belief in endless torment or eternal hellfire is true he believe he is right and i am wrong he said i must the one who follow his belief because he is my pastor , thats why he rebukes me

@TheWhyisthatso Жыл бұрын

@@vince.sarigumba .....You don't need any pastor .....they are all false teachers .

@jesusisgodalmightyamen492 Жыл бұрын

Shalom my brother. Thank you for your response. If its not to much of a stress, we would like to help you. Not to incite strife nor to create divisions, please remember that. God forbid. You said: The word "spirit" in scripture is a metaphor for the "mind" . You also mentioned that the soul is flesh. This is however incorrect. Please understand the following : *We are a spirit with a body that FORM a soul.* Know therefore also that: spirit is attitude (or heart) Soul is mentality (mind, consciousness) Body is behavior (Strength) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Soul: a living breathing physical being. Someone's whole life, our received experiences in this life. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Know therefore also the process of being saved or purified : *There is justification, sanctification and glorification says the scriptures.* Note: all of this is done by God alone, no works of our own, so no man can boast of his own "good" deeds. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Note: This will be done when He re-calls you, we can't choose Him, He will draw ALL mankind to Himself ! No free will, God is in complete control. No free will? you may think..... Understand that God can and will influence our choices. Thereby nullifies free will. No exceptions. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The process of being saved or Purified: As we mentioned before: We must be justified in the spirit (Attitude), sanctified in the soul (Consciousness, Mentality) and glorified in strength (Body, Behavior) *We must FIRST be justified in the spirit (attitude).* As children of Adam the 1st born we have an attitude that involves fear. This fear originates from Adam (the 1st born). God gave Adam a limited ability to create manifestations from his own imaginations He created a deluded consciousness (mind) thinking he himself could discern right from wrong. By doing so he became adversarial to the will of God. Towards His will to treat another as how we would like to be treated and by doing so, loving God. He is the man of sin described in revelation 13 (Note: Book of revelation is a synopsis) and also in 2 Thessalonians 2:3-12. He is the adversary (accuser) (Seitan) towards God. Satan is fallen carnal man. This fearful attitude (spirit) corrupts our soul (mentality) because it creates an egocentric mind (consciousness, soul). This egocentric mind (that comes from a spirit or attitude in fear) is adversarial towards God. With His divine Spirit (Through His works within) He will teach us by way of *heartfelt convictions that cannot be denied* (by way of an attitude that is perfect loving, without conditions) (By way of His mind, His template, His image as the son of man called The Christ) we will come to the understanding (we become conscious) what we did wrong (transgressions towards His law) in our lives and how to actually live according to His will. So that we may come by His way to the knowledge of the truth that is in Christ. Christ the Second Adam, the perfect soul (Consciousness) created by The Lord Jesus (Name of God revealed to us) who is the ONE and ONLY true God (God = the divine Spirit) of all of creation. There is NONE like Him and NONE beside HIm. Then we will behave (act, conduct oneself, show strength) through our body according to His will. This will turn every living breathing physical being (mind) that was FORMED by a spirit in fear into a mind that is TRANSFORMED by an attitude of unconditional love, creating a perfect soul, a mind of Christ, a mind (soul) that is no longer in need of correction, and thereby no longer needs to be sanctified (the death of the self). Through Christ we will find the way, the truth and the life. This is the one and ONLY true Gospel by which all of creation will be saved. Not only mankind but all of creation, all of the universe. No exceptions. Do you now understand my brother? Thank you for your extended patience towards our peaceful message. *To our Lord and perfect loving ONE true God is all the glory.*

@vince.sarigumba Жыл бұрын

@@jesusisgodalmightyamen492 do you believe in everlaating punishment or eternity bell fire or eternal hell fire?

@vince.sarigumba Жыл бұрын

@@jesusisgodalmightyamen492 Pray For Me The Reason My pastor and our church member no longer believe in me because I Believe in Apokatastasis or Universal Salvation and they dis agree with me and they rebuke me for My Belief in Universal Salvation. Most of the church believe in endless torment or eternal hell fire or eternal punishment or eternal hell fire they believe that they rebuke me

@Eclectifying Жыл бұрын

If the title “lord” means one is none other than God Himself, then I guess Paul was talking to several Gods who had slaves in Colossians 4:1 when he told masters (κύριοι) to treat their slaves right. If the title “lord” can only ever mean the Almighty God, then I guess Sarah was blaspheming when she called Abraham lord (κύριον), and Peter was just as bad when he counseled women to follow her example (1 Peter 3:6). The fact is that just because the Septuagint translators decided to substitute the title “Lord” (kyrios) for the Name of God, that doesn’t mean that the title belongs to God alone, because all throughout the entire New Testament we see the writers calling Jesus Lord and calling God the God and Father OF that Lord Jesus. If you read the book of Acts, never once do the apostles mention this supposed all-important new revelation that the Messiah is actually God Himself. Instead, we have Peter telling the Jews that God has MADE Jesus both Lord and Christ (Acts 2:36; Acts 3:13). I grew up in trinitarian church and believed the brainwashing, until at the age of 40 I really dug into the Bible and tested this doctrine. I found that this doctrine is not only completely absent from Scripture, but that what Scripture plainly states precludes Jesus from being God, and therefore falsifies the doctrine of the trinity. Because I decided to base my beliefs about God and Jesus on the Bible alone, I no longer believe that Jesus is God or that God is a trinity.

@mythacat1 8 ай бұрын

Please explain what Paul means in 1 Corinthians 10:4, he appears to be referencing Deut 32:4. Also, what is your opinion on Revelation, where Jesus appears to make this claim of Godhood in Rev 1:17-18(quoting Isaiah regarding first and last) & later on in the book he quotes Jeremiah concerning trying the reigns of mens hearts? I had a dream the trinity was wrong, I dug in and concluded not though, because many early fathers seem to quote John's letter and there are hints of it in the OT. Also it says of Messiah his comings and goings are from before the age. I met a group and feel called to it, but cannot reconcile their beliefs as truthful. If I'm mistaken and you have answers to these, I'd be keen to know.

@chucklee347 Жыл бұрын

Im not sure who you are or what you are trying to say in all. I do not have all the answers neither do i know everything. But i will tell you. God ponders the heart. And the things that i have witnessed with my own eyes. Heard with my own ears and felt in my heart and soul all done in and by the name of Jesus christ. I can never nor will i ever deny that name. The kingdom of heaven is so complicated it is hidden from the wise yet it is so simple a baby would not err therein. Hr that thinks he is wise knows nonthing as he aught to know. Im the first born son of a pastor from North Carolina. I grew up playing the drums in church most all my life until my daddy's passing. I do think so many look at it in the wrong way. But who am i to change their belief. Point them to Jesus and let him show them. Jesus christ said God judges know man but has passed all judgement unto the son. There are things written in the bible that i take or perceived as wrote wrong or translated wrong if you will matter of fact i know there is. Jesus said if you hate not your mother or father your not worthy of him. Jesus would not tell us to love our enemies but hate our mama and daddy. Makes no sense. The lord Jesus christ showed me when i prayed to him that it should have been written if you love your mama and daddy more than me you're not worthy of me. It was translated wrong but if you seek the lord Jesus christ you will get the answer from the major main source that cant be wrong. Theres more than enough in the bible to teach or help people in the way to everlasting life. But we each to ourselves should and need to seek Jesus christ of ourselves. When you seek him with all your heart he will be found. And regardless of names this one that one doesnt matter. Some catholics will go to heaven some hell. Some Christians heaven others hell some Baptist heaven others hell and so on and so on with all religions. It doesn't matter what the name of your religion is or whats written on the neon side at the road in front of the church. What matters is whats in your heart. 😮

@alexanderthegoat Жыл бұрын

The number of gnostics here is staggering. The amount of parentheses they use to convey a point is a dead giveaway.

@rg442 Жыл бұрын

I think where there is confusion with this trinity doctrine (and there's a lot) is that most Christians falsely believe that it is the Father in the old testament. Jesus was clear that we have never seen His form nor heard His voice. This video proves Jesus was the Law giver of the old testament. The "I AM."

@safenders Жыл бұрын

That makes no sense

@alexanderthegoat Жыл бұрын

You should read the whole chapter. Jesus is referring to people who don't believe in Him, that they haven't God nor heard His voice nor do His words abide in them. That being said Jesus is God. He is the "lamed" and the staff of authority on the right side of Power "Aleph". Jesus appears multiple times in OT as the God who's face is seen. "For in Christ all the fullness of God lives in bodily form." Col 2:9

@thatwhichhasbeen-isthatwhi6575 Жыл бұрын

I would say what's more important is this, we as professing believers “must” have the “same God” that Christ Jesus has, and one thing is for sure, Jesus didn't ascend to, neither does he have a God that consists of a three-person being. Jesus’ God is “unequivocally" the Father alone! If Jesus doesn’t have a God that consists of a three-person being, then it would be highly advisable not to promote a different God from the one Jesus has. Due to a lack of space and time, I can only respond to a part of your presentation The Greek word “Kurios/Lord” is not a title reserved for God only. It’s a title of respect, honour and authority that is used by men. In Acts 2:36, Peter tells us that God [MADE] Jesus both [lord/Kurios and Christ/Messiah] So, contextually, Jesus is not the same [lord] as the [LORD God] who [MADE] him [lord]. YHWH making YHWH a LORD would truly be stretching its context beyond any imagination. You can’t [BECOME] YHWH. Attempting to cross reference Rom 10:13 with Joel 2:32 to prove Jesus is YHWH will only cause more problems for those who adhere to Trinitarian theology. To do so, would conflate the identity of the father with his son. Concerning Rom 10:13 and Joel 2:28 - 32, the context speaks for itself. YHWH are letters that stand for the Father’s name. Consider the following, Deut 14:1-2, Isa 63:16, 64:8 etc….. The “I” in Joel 2:28 -30 is in relation to the Lord/YHWH in verse 27. Therefore, YHWH is the one saying “he” will pour out “his” spirit on all mankind in verse 28. Jesus identifies the one making the promise in Joel 2:28 as the Father [ie] Luke 24:49/Acts 1:4. So, in context, the Lord/YHWH In Joel 2:32, is the same Lord/YHWH back in verse 28 who made the “promise” which is the Father. So according to trinitarian theology, the Son at Rom 10:13 cannot be the Lord/ YHWH at Joel 2:32. Otherwise, you will be conflating the identity of the Son with his Father. So, within the context above, it’s perfectly reasonable to accept that Jesus’ God and Father, fulfilled his promise in Joel 2:28 -32 through his son Jesus, who he [MADE] both Lord and Messiah. Peace

@rdaleyj1 Жыл бұрын

One thing that I'm sure is a reason why more Christians have no interests in keeping the word of God is that half of Christianity believe that Jesus is a separate entity as in the literal Son of God, and they believe that he brought a whole new set of commandments than the ones given to Moses. When Jesus said if you love me keep my Commandments, of course he meant the ones he taught presently, but he also meant the ones he gave to Moses in Exodus.

@edwardclancy8336 Жыл бұрын

The Letter (Law) kills the Spirit (Jesus)gives Life! Gospel John chapter 1 read carefully. The Law came through Moses but Grace and Truth came through Jesus Christ.

@MarioLuigi-ct7jo Жыл бұрын

@@edwardclancy8336Amen!

@rdaleyj1 11 ай бұрын

@@edwardclancy8336 yeah read the Bible carefully!!! The letter of the law kills but we are not ministers of the letter of the law but the Spirit of the law and the Spirit of the law is always fulfilling the purpose that the letter was given. We just don't ignore the word of God because someone teaches that Christians don't keep law. But you are welcome to believe that if you want, but you'd better first pay attention to the very first followers of Christ who kept the written letter of law such as the feast days and his dietary laws.

@mythacat1 8 ай бұрын

@@rdaleyj1what did he mean by saying that what you eat doesn't defile you, and what did paul mean in 1 Timothy 4:6 about peoplr thinking you need to keep food? Do you believe Paul was a Benjamite Wolf(fron Gen 49)?

@edwardclancy8336 Жыл бұрын

62And Jesus said, I am: and ye shall see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven. Caiaphas would live to see His return

@cc3775 Жыл бұрын

He was referring to the Judgement that was brought against the Jews for rejecting the messiah.

@josephposey406 Жыл бұрын

The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord and of his Christ; and he shall reign forever and ever [for the ages of the ages].’”Revelation 11:15 Jesus prayed to the father; Does God pray to himself?

@josephposey406 Жыл бұрын

Once everyone is SUBJECTED to the son, then the son will be subjected to the FATHER(Almighty GOD, Force of reckoning, The ONE) 1COR15

@freespirit7450 Жыл бұрын

You know not everyone who is called lord is a god. Sarah called Abraham lord. It means someone in authority.

@TheWhyisthatso Жыл бұрын

We are ALL "sons of God " ( John 10 : 34, Psalm 82:6 ). As long as you people think you are some kind of "pet" instead of a literal "child" of the Father, you will never understand. Until you can understand that you are "spirit", just as God is ( John 4:24 ).....you will never understand.

@jesusisgodalmightyamen492 Жыл бұрын

Shalom brother. Peace be to you. We are indeed all children of God, no exceptions. Whether we are disobedient children or not. He lighted every mankind into existence, He is the Father of all creatures. Everyone comes from the single source of all spirits, the Father of spirits, the divine Spirit. He and He alone is the creator. To God is all the glory.

@TheWhyisthatso Жыл бұрын

@@jesusisgodalmightyamen492 .....Yes, and in 1 John 4 : 1-4......the apostle John tells the brethren not to believe every "spirit" that speaks in the name of Jesus, but to "test the spirits" to see if they are of God . John is using the word "spirits" here to refer to the "MINDS" of people. He goes on to say that if a person cannot confess that Jesus is "IN" them....that "Jesus Christ HAS COME in the flesh", then that person is NOT of God, but is a "false prophet".....a false teacher, because they have a "spirit" or mind of "antichrist" ( an imposter ) and not the Spirit or "MIND" of Christ . Jesus is NOW the "Spirit (or Mind) of Truth".....and He is "IN" those that belong to Him, just as He said He would be in John chapter 14. He did not " leave us alone as orphans ". He told the disciples that this was WHY He had to go away, so that He could come to them again in "Spirit" . This is also the "mystery of the church" that Paul tells us in Colossians 1:27..... "which is Christ IN YOU (saints), the hope of glory " . Jesus is NOW the "Spirit (or Mind) of Truth"...and this is HOW the "elect" CANNOT be deceived , "if it were possible". ( Mark 13:22 )

@kingsleynkrumah4762 Жыл бұрын

I think The best question should be? Is Jesus the Father? No Is Jesus God? Yes What is God? God is the Generic name given to anyone in authority in the Bible. The priests where called Elohim translated Gods. So it is lawful to call anyone in authority God and Jesus is given authority over the heavens and the earth according to the scriptures. To Say Jesus is God is lawful but to say He is the Father is what I perceive to be No. We run into problem about this because of our definition of God. To make it simple, the guy who created this channel is the God of this channel. There is no law against this statement from any person in his right sense. I hope I’m making sense?

@edwardclancy8336 Жыл бұрын

Jesus told Caiaphas the High priest he would see Jesus return in glory. Jesus also told His disciple the same. Don’t just ignore Jesus words King James Bible Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom. King James Bible Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom. King James Bible Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom. King James Bible Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom. Matthew 16:28

@razmoe2000 Жыл бұрын

God is Christs Father and his God .

@razmoe2000 7 ай бұрын

@@franciscafazzo3460 Christ prays to his God. God has no god to pray to.

@someone49283 2 ай бұрын

@@razmoe2000There are multiple persons in the trinity, when Jesus is on earth he can communicate with his Father through prayer

@razmoe2000 2 ай бұрын

@@someone49283 Not biblical but certainly orthodox tradition. Who died on the cross for sin ?

@razmoe2000 2 ай бұрын

@@someone49283 God and Jesus are one in the same way a husband and wife are one . Jesus is the image of the invisible God. God raised His son after being dead 3 days for sin. Rejoice

@djpodesta Жыл бұрын

Did they see him coming on the clouds?

@thetotalvictoryofchrist9838 Жыл бұрын

Yes, and here's a nice summary of signs that occurred in their generation kzbin.info/www/bejne/nZe2f3pvfKx_a9ksi=lnJosdTt58ki1ZV4

@JennyS161 Жыл бұрын

“For in Him dwells all the fullness of the Godhead bodily;” ‭‭Colossians‬ ‭2‬:‭9‬ ‭NKJV‬‬ This verse tells us that the entire godhead dwelt in the incarnate body of Jesus. The father The mother The son The daughter If you don’t understand what I’m sharing, I am more than happy to provide scriptural and apocryphal evidence of these things. This can be confirmed at Jesus death when he: gave up the ghost - the daughter. After being pierced, out of his side poured blood and water - the mother and the father. “And there are three that bear witness on earth: the Spirit, the water, and the blood; and these three agree as one.” ‭‭I John‬ ‭5‬:‭8‬ ‭NKJV‬‬ This explains why Jesus bore traits of both the father and Holy Spirit. Blessings 💛🕊️❤️

@TheWhyisthatso Жыл бұрын

"Father" = MIND (Infinite, Ineffable, Incomprehensible, Invisible, Pure and Perfect Divine Mind ) "Mother" = THOUGHT ( Holy (set apart) Spirit (Mind), Mother of ALL Life, giving "Birth" to ALL Things ) "Son" (Child) = CONSCIOUSNESS ( The Conception of The Union of Mind and Thought, The "Word" ( Logos = Revealed Thought ) of the Father/Mother , The Creator of All Concepts of Life and Being ) This is the TRUE "Holy Trinity" or One "Spirit" (Mind) that is "God"...... and is manifested physically as the human "family".....a literal "carbon copy" .

@JennyS161 Жыл бұрын

@@TheWhyisthatso Thank you for sharing. Very interesting! I see multiple dimensions of understanding. Much like the babushka dolls. 💛🕊️❤️

@TheWhyisthatso Жыл бұрын

@@JennyS161 ....You are welcome . To have the "Spirit" of God means to have the "Mind" of God......for us this is limited, but not for Him . ( John 3:34 ) Jesus is NOW the "Spirit" or Mind of Truth, and He is "IN" those that belong to Him , as He said He would be in John chapter 14.......He did not " leave us alone as orphans ". He did this so that we could tell the difference between a "false prophet" (teacher) and a true one . John explains in 1 John 4 : 1-4 , that if we cannot confess that Christ is "IN" us, then we are not of God . "Jesus Christ HAS COME in the flesh" means that Jesus is "IN" those that are His. If the "spirit" or mind of a person speaking about Christ cannot confess that He is "IN" them.......then they are "antichrist" .

@godisnotmocked1345 Жыл бұрын

Thomas said "My Lord and my God" (John 20:28), and Jesus didn't correct him. He rebuked him for not believing sooner John 20:29).

@thatwhichhasbeen-isthatwhi6575 Жыл бұрын

Please consider the following:- Jesus said “he who sees me, sees the one who sent me” John 12:45. The one who sent Jesus was “his” father. In this sense, "to see" would be to perceive, in other words, to become aware or conscious of something without actually seeing it physically. That's why Jesus in John 14:7-9 used the single personal pronoun “ME” when referring to both the Father and himself. If it wasn't “seeing” in the sense of perception, then Jesus would be saying he is his own father in person which goes directly against Trinitarian theology. Now, considering the Father is Jesus’ God John 20:17, this understanding makes perfect sense of Thomas’ confession in verse 28. That’s why Thomas, upon seeing Jesus could say to “HIM” My Lord = he who has seen me >[and]< my God = has seen the father. Thomas wasn’t calling Jesus God any more than Jesus was calling himself the Father. To see Jesus in person is to see “his” father and God in attributes and ways. Just before Thomas’s confession in verse 28, he said he was ascending to his Father and God. Are we supposed to believe he was ascending to a three-person being? Even more strained, are we supposed to believe he was ascending to his own essence/being? In verse 21 of the same chapter, John stated that these things had been written so that you may believe Jesus is the Christ, the son of God etc….. It doesn't say they were written so we believe him to be God. Peace

@godisnotmocked1345 Жыл бұрын

@@thatwhichhasbeen-isthatwhi6575 This is my understanding. “During mitosis, a cell duplicates all of its contents...and splits to form two identical daughter cells” (www.medlineplus.gov). I discern the Father split like a cell so that John 1:18 calls Jesus “the only-begotten God” in the Concordant literal translation and one of the NASB translations. I then discern that He placed Jesus in Mary just like doctors do with in vitro fertilization and surrogate parenting. A surrogate mother has no biological connection to the child. She’s merely a carrier (www.surrogate.com). In turn, Jesus said “I and my Father are one” (John 10:30) and spoke of “the glory that [He]I had...before the world existed” (John 17:5). Jesus is both God, an identical cell with the Father, and the Son, “the only-begotten God.” He did like the alien did in The Next Generation Star Trek episode, The Child, used a human body as a shell so that He was 100% God, yet felt every bit of pain. The Bible also says "The Son is the radiance of God’s glory and the exact representation of his being" (Heb. 1:3, NIV). The concept of the Trinity is Catholic/pagan. He worked in the world by His Spirit before He came in the flesh, while He was here, and ever since. If there was a trinity, the Bible would speak of His throne. But it only speaks the Father’s throne, the Son’s throne, and for the faithful who will judge the twelve tribes of Israel.

@thatwhichhasbeen-isthatwhi6575 Жыл бұрын

@@godisnotmocked1345 Although I disagree with the content of your post, I must apologize for assuming your adherence to trinitarian theology. Thanks for your reply. Peace

@godisnotmocked1345 Жыл бұрын

@@thatwhichhasbeen-isthatwhi6575 May I ask what exactly you disagree with because in my mind it's both biblically sound and scientific.

@thatwhichhasbeen-isthatwhi6575 Жыл бұрын

@@godisnotmocked1345 Certainly. It's probably best I just give you an overview of what I believe. Most of this post is not aimed at you personally, but I hope you will be able to pick out the parts where we differ in context concerning those scriptures within your reply. It is my understanding that Jesus did not pre-exist his birth, and neither do I believe, in the truest sense of the word, that he is God. Jesus is fully man. Just as Adam, a perfect man, was created from the dust of the earth, so Jesus, a perfect man, was created in the womb of Mary and when the fullness of time came, God sent his son, born of women, born under the law. Being sent isn't in the context of from heaven to earth, but sent into the world [i.e.] "Just as you sent me into the world, I sent them into the world" John 17:18. The idea of Jesus being fully God and fully man is nothing short of a fallacy, for there is “one God” and “one mediator” between God and man, the “man” Christ Jesus. John 1:18:- has two textual variants, “only begotten son” or “only begotten God”. I know that the oldest manuscript says “only begotten God”, but the oldest isn’t necessarily correct, simply because we don’t have any original manuscripts. We only have copies of copies etc. Personally, as do the other manuscripts, I favour the “only begotten son”. To me, it seems more contextual and flows better. If I am wrong, then the rendering “only begotten God” still sits ok with me. I believe Jesus was called god in the sense of John 10:34 and Psalm 82:6, which I believe speaks of earthly rulers appointed by God to act as god. God's plan for his son was determined from long ages past “before” he even existed. Thus, Jesus was begotten in the womb of Mary to fulfil this very purpose. He was given the throne of his father David, where he rules with all power and authority as God’s appointed ruler, judge and god. I believe the wording “who [is] in the bosom of the father” is written in the present tense and suggests nothing of existing before his incarnation . It's a reference to the son's position “now” in the bosom of the father. John 10:30:- Jesus being one with the Father, in my opinion, certainly doesn't mean sharing an identical cell with him. Jesus said that he wanted his disciples to be “one” just as the Son and Father are "one". The context here is “one” in unity and accord. John 17:5:- Think about it. If the son of God gave up his glory and wasn’t to receive it again until after his resurrection John 7:39 [b] How can he claim to have been “given it” already In VR 22. Jesus says “the glory you have [given] me”. This glory Christ was claiming to have already been given, can be understood through predestination [I.e.] God makes known the end from the beginning Isa 46:10. 1 Peter 1:20:- Christ was foreknown “before” the foundation of the world. John 17:5:- glorify me with yourself, with the glory I had with you “before” the world was Rev 13.8:- He was also slain “before” the foundation of the world. Yet, as I understand it, the son of God didn’t exist “before” the foundation of the world no more than the son was slain “before” the foundation of the world. Neither do I believe, in the same sense that Trinitarians and Arians claim, that the son of God had glory with his father “before” the foundation of the world. Christ came in the scroll of the book, he grew in wisdom and stature with God. Christ understood through the scriptures those things “already” written about him. That’s how he/Christ talked about things that were to come as if they already were or had been, [i.e.] Christ said that the father had granted him to have life in himself John 5:26. The context of John 5:26 is all about the resurrection. Christ would have life in himself granted, “after” his resurrection, and not because he existed as God in the flesh. Yet, he spoke as if it was "already" his, simply because it was "already" written. Consider the following quote: - // The first one of these figures is called “prophetic prolepsis.” The term “prophetic,” of course, has to do with prophecy. “Prolepsis” (from pro - “before,” and lambanein - “to take,” is a figure used when a speaker or writer represents a circumstance that shall be, but speaks as if it has occurred already. The writer symbolically represents what is expected to occur at a later time.// Believers are said to have been predestined as sons of God through Christ “before” the foundation of the world Eph 1:5. Also, in a similar sense, grace was “given” to believers “before” the world began 2 Tim 1:9. To have grace “before” the world began, as would be obvious, doesn’t mean one existed at that time, we were predestined to have it just like Christ. The son of God was predestined to have this glory with his Father “after” his resurrection, a glory that had been laid up for him “before” the world was. When a person is born and they go on to believe, they receive a grace that was "already" laid up for them in the heavens. Likewise, Christ was born to die a sacrificial death and at his resurrection, he was to receive a glory that he had "already" laid up for him in the heavens. This context shows that the son of God did not pre-exist his earthly birth any more than I did. The same glory the father had given to his son, was also given by the son to his disciples both present and future John 17:22. So, in a similar sense, it can be confidently said by any true believer that they "had" a glory "with" Christ "before" they even existed. Heb 1:3:- Is written in the present tense concerning the son’s exalted state. “And [he/Jesus] is the radiance of [his/the father’s] Glory and the exact representation of [his/the father's nature] and upholds all things by the word of [his/ the father’s] power [ie] “all power and authority have been “given” me” Matt 28:18. The risen Jesus is the exact nature as his father and God. God is spirit John 4:24 and Jesus was “made” into a life-giving spirit 1 Cor 15:45. Having the same nature as God makes Jesus no more God than me having the same nature as Adam makes me Adam. Position and status are what makes God -God, not his nature. Jesus was and is the image of his father and God in attributes and ways [i.e.] “If you have seen me, you have seen the father”. Peace

@fellowshipofthemystery6154 Жыл бұрын

Christ Jesus is the image of the invisible God (Colossians 1:15) first-born of all creation, the Word of John 1:1, the One who existed with God in John 1:2, and the One that created all things in this temporary realm we live in (John 1:3), the Light in John 1:4-5, and the One John came to witness and testify for in John 1:7. God Almighty cannot enter this realm (2 Chronicles 6:18), but spoke this realm into existence through the Word, and the Word became flesh (John 1:14) and the Word (Christ Jesus) created everything in this temporary realm, and all consists and is held together by Him, and in Him, in this realm (Colossians 1:17) until God becomes All in All at the consummation. 1 Corinthians 15:28 and when the all things may be subjected to him, then the Son also himself shall be subject to Him, who did subject to him the all things, that God may be the All in All. In the end, when the only God accomplishes what He set out to do, all will be subjected back to Him in the infinite realm, which is the only realm thats real, not created. Scripture clearly shows us that Jesus is not God Almighty. Luke 18:19 And Jesus said to him, 'Why me dost thou call good? NO ONE is good, EXCEPT One -- God; (Jesus is not God) 1 Tim 2:5 for one is God, one also is mediator of God and of men, the man Christ Jesus. (Jesus is a Mediator, not God) John 1:18 God, NO ONE HAS EVER SEEN; the only begotten Son, who is on the bosom of the Father -- he did declare. (No one has ever seen God) Job 42:5 By the hearing of the ear I heard Thee, And now MINE EYE HATH SEEN Thee. (Job did see the Lord God, but he didn't see God Almighty, which no one has ever seen) John 14:9 Jesus saith to him, 'So long time am I with you, and thou hast not known me, Philip? he who HAS SEEN ME hath seen the Father; and how dost thou say, Shew to us the Father? (My Father who art in heaven is also not God as everyone saw Jesus. Heaven cannot contain God, as seen below) 2 Chron 2:6 and who doth retain strength to build to Him a house, FOR THE HEAVENS, EVEN THE HEAVENS OF THE HEAVENS, DO NOT CONTAIN HIM. (Heaven or this universe CANNOT contain God) 1 Kings 8:27 But, is it true? -- God dwelleth on the earth! LO, THE HEAVENS, AND THE HEAVENS OF THE HEAVENS, DO NOT CONTAIN THEE. (God NEVER dwelled on earth or heaven) If you believe Jesus is God Almighty, you cannot believe He really died and if you believe He didn't die, you deny Ephesians 1:13 and make void the power of the cross. God Almighty has no beginning and no end (only eternal entity) and cannot exist or even enter this temporal realm of time and space. He exists in the infinite realm and Jesus was sent into this realm as the Word of John 1:1, as His image. Jesus is the mediator between God and man. 1 Ti 2:5 for ONE is God, ONE also is mediator of God and of men, the man Christ Jesus, Colossians 1:15 who is the image of the invisible God, first-born of all creation. (Jesus was the Word of John 1:1 and the One who existed with God in John 1:2, and the One that created all things in this "created realm" in John 1:3, and the Light in John 1:4-5, and the One John came to witness and testify for in John 1:7. And finally... this one is not understood by even the members of the Body of Christ... The Father, who "art in Heaven" is also, not, God. Matthew 6:9 YLT says... Our Father who 'art in the heavens' hallowed be Thy name. 1 Kings 8:27 CLT says... Will Elohim truly dwel with .mankind~ on the earth? Behold, the heavens and the heavens of the heavens themselves CANNOT contain You. God cannot enter this created realm, which includes, the earth, the heavens, time, and space, but the LORD God of Genesis 2:4, Jesus (water witness), and Christ Jesus (Blood witness), can/did/does. 1 John 5:6 CLT This is He Who is coming through 'water' and 'blood' and spirit -- Jesus Christ -- not in the water only, but in the water and in the blood. And the spirit it is which is testifying, for the spirit is the truth, Gen 2:4 CLT: These are the chronological records of the heavens and the earth when they were created−, in the day that Yahweh Elohim made− earth and heavens. Gen 2:4 YLT: These are births of the heavens and of the earth in their being prepared, in the day of Jehovah God's making earth and heavens. Gen 2:4 KJV: These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens, not God Almighty. Luke 18:19 And Jesus said to him, 'Why me dost thou call good? NO ONE is good, EXCEPT One -- God; (Jesus is not God) 1 Tim 2:5 for one is God, one also is mediator of God and of men, the man Christ Jesus. (Jesus is a Mediator, not God) John 1:18 God, NO ONE HAS EVER SEEN; the only begotten Son, who is on the bosom of the Father -- he did declare. (No one has ever seen God) Job 42:5 By the hearing of the ear I heard Thee, And now MINE EYE HATH SEEN Thee. (Job did see the Lord God, but he didn't see God Almighty, which no one has ever seen) John 14:9 Jesus saith to him, 'So long time am I with you, and thou hast not known me, Philip? he who HAS SEEN ME hath seen the Father; and how dost thou say, Shew to us the Father? (My Father who art in heaven is also not God as everyone saw Jesus. Heaven cannot contain God, as seen below) 2 Chron 2:6 and who doth retain strength to build to Him a house, FOR THE HEAVENS, EVEN THE HEAVENS OF THE HEAVENS, DO NOT CONTAIN HIM. (Heaven or this universe CANNOT contain God) 1 Kings 8:27 But, is it true? -- God dwelleth on the earth! LO, THE HEAVENS, AND THE HEAVENS OF THE HEAVENS, DO NOT CONTAIN THEE. (God NEVER dwelled on earth or heaven) If you believe Jesus is God Almighty, you cannot believe He really died and if you believe He didn't die, you deny Ephesians 1:13 and make void the power of the cross. God Almighty has no beginning and no end (only eternal entity) and cannot exist or even enter this temporal realm of time and space. He exists in the infinite realm and Jesus was sent into this realm as the Word of John 1:1, as His image. Jesus is the mediator between God and man. 1 Ti 2:5 for ONE is God, ONE also is mediator of God and of men, the man Christ Jesus, Colossians 1:15 who is the image of the invisible God, first-born of all creation. (Jesus was the Word of John 1:1 and the One who existed with God in John 1:2, and the One that created all things in this "created realm" in John 1:3, and the Light in John 1:4-5, and the One John came to witness and testify for in John 1:7. And finally... this one is not understood by even the members of the Body of Christ... The Father, who "art in Heaven" is also, not, God. Matthew 6:9 YLT says... Our Father who 'art in the heavens' hallowed be Thy name. 1 Kings 8:27 CLT says... Will Elohim truly dwel with .mankind~ on the earth? Behold, the heavens and the heavens of the heavens themselves CANNOT contain You. God cannot enter this created realm, which includes, the earth, the heavens, time, and space, but the LORD God of Genesis 2:4, Jesus (water witness), and Christ Jesus (Blood witness), can/did/does. 1 John 5:6 CLT This is He Who is coming through 'water' and 'blood' and spirit -- Jesus Christ -- not in the water only, but in the water and in the blood. And the spirit it is which is testifying, for the spirit is the truth, Gen 2:4 CLT: These are the chronological records of the heavens and the earth when they were created−, in the day that Yahweh Elohim made− earth and heavens. Gen 2:4 YLT: These are births of the heavens and of the earth in their being prepared, in the day of Jehovah God's making earth and heavens. Gen 2:4 KJV: These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens,

@changstein Жыл бұрын

No, he’s Lord. There is only one God - and He is the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ. Scripture could not be more clear and simple on this.

@Eclectifying Жыл бұрын

Amen

@safenders Жыл бұрын

That’s what the Bible says clearly

@jesusisgodalmightyamen492 Жыл бұрын

Shalom Austin. Did anyone ever told you about the Sh'ma ? How many Lords do you serve? Deuteronomy 6:4 Who do you think the Spirit is? 2 Corinthians 3:17 Is it not written? Exodus 20:3 Who is your Lord and savior? Isaiah 43:11 Sigh....religion and their philosophical scribblings...very inconvenient. Thank you brother for your patience and time reading through this. May the Lord your God bless you and your loved ones with peace and great joy knowing that you are completely loved by God. To God is all the glory.

@thetotalvictoryofchrist9838 Жыл бұрын

If Jesus isn't God incarnate in your thinking then what was the purpose of the virgin birth? The Messiah merely needed to be a descendent of David.

@changstein Жыл бұрын

Hi TVOC, Wouldn’t it be because God is Jesus’ Father? Jesus often calls God “my God and Father”. Let’s say God is Jesus’ Father - this would be required because Jesus was sinless and had a full measure of the spirit (John 3:34), whereas regular humans only have a partial part of the spirit (Roman’s 12:3). So that’s the reason for a divine Fatherhood. Jesus was a man, a mediator between God and mankind (1 Tim 2:5)

@janosterud4188 Жыл бұрын

The Sacred Name bibles have that Lord as The Fathers ( God's) name

@RobertAbrao-o5r Жыл бұрын

This is hilarious, I see you don’t want to bring up Malachi 3:1 to understand Mark 1:2. And God (LORD/YHWH) made Jesus Lord (Not LORD/YHWH) Acts 2:36 And Jesus proved he had authority to forgive sins when he forgave sins and healed the man. As did the apostles (John 20:21-23) Keep studying my friend, coming on the clouds doesn’t mean God. Daniel 7:13, 14 says Son of man is brought to the Ancient of Days (God/LORD/YHWH) Jesus sits at the right hand of God meaning he isn’t God. Jesus has a God and his God made Jesus Savior (Acts 5:30, 31) Jesus did all he did because God was with him working through him (John 14:10/Acts 2:22/Acts 10:38)

@simplifiedlife8607 Жыл бұрын

There are many verses that disprove that Jesus is Almighty God. My two favorites are Luke 18:19 "why do you call me good? none is good, save one, God". Perfect opportunity to say, "yeah, of course I'm good, I'm almighty God." Then there's 1 Cor 15:28, the son will subject himself to God after he hands over the kingdom. This compulsion the elevate Jesus to Almighty God status is nuts. I think people get a charge out of complicating things maybe. It's so bizarre.

@thetotalvictoryofchrist9838 Жыл бұрын

Using your same reasoning it was a perfect opportunity for Jesus to say, "I'm not good, and therefore I'm not God".

@safenders Жыл бұрын

@@thetotalvictoryofchrist9838 you didn’t address the second verse he referenced.

@kingsleynkrumah4762 Жыл бұрын

The second Verse 1 Corinthians 15:24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power. 1 Corinthians 15:25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet. 1 Corinthians 15:26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death. 1 Corinthians 15:27 For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him. 1 Corinthians 15:28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all. To understand Vs 28 is to understand Vs 24. It’s all about subjecting The kingdom From the Son To God The Father. I think the best question is Is Christ the father? No Is jesus God? Yes Because even in The OT, the priests were called elohim translated Gods because they were given authority to rule even as Christ is given authority to rule. Even fathers are called gods. So it’s not unlawful to call any body in authority God in Scripture. Shalom

@thetotalvictoryofchrist9838 Жыл бұрын

@@safenders That is addressed by the doctrine of the Trinity, which I assume you reject anyway.

@jesusisgodalmightyamen492 Жыл бұрын

Shalom Peace be to you. Is that what is says? 🤔 1 Cor 15:28 28. Now whenever the whole (or: all things) may be completely supportively-aligned in Him (or: subjected/appended to Him; subordinately sheltered and arranged for Him), then the Son Himself will also continue being supportively aligned to, fully subjoined for and humbly attached under as an arranged shelter in, the One subjecting, appending and sheltering the whole in Him (or: attaching all things to Him), to the end that God can be all things within. What or who do you think the son is? Where does it state that by this verse above that Jesus is not God?😂 How is it that you people find the time to come up with this one verse, in a heretical bible that took this verse completely out of context, translated through a carnal mind, and refer to this as irrefutable proof that The Lord Jesus is not God while completely ignoring the many verses that clearly state that Jesus is God. Fascinating.

@Kuudere-Kun Жыл бұрын

I do not believe the New Testament is ever quoting the Septuagint, the Septuagint resembles the NT as strongly as it does because it was preserved through Christian Copyists. Certain people fixate on every similarity but ignore the huge differences like how Solomon is spelt.

@Dekadin2 Жыл бұрын

Oh yeah thats a huge difference definitely not just a difference of languages used on ot and nt. Bible thoroughly debunked, good job

@Kuudere-Kun Жыл бұрын

@@Dekadin2 I'm not debunking The Bible, I'm defending the Masoretic Text.

@STROND Жыл бұрын

NOPE ! He is the son of God, big difference....If Jesus is God then WHO was he praying to ? ......If Jesus is God then why did he say "I am going back to MY GOD and MY FATHER ? So WHO is the God of Jesus, and what is his name, when you find the answer to that question then you will see the TRUTH behind WHO God is ! Jesus backed up that belief when in prayer to his heavenly father said,...”"This is eternal life, that they should know you, the only true God, and him whom you sent, Jesus Christ. John 17: 3. Notice how he calls his father the ONLY TRUE GOD! The first century Christians taught the same when they preached for example 1 Cor 15: 24-28 where we see in Vs 24 that Jesus has a GOD AND FATHER and that in Vs 28 he SUBJECTS himself to his God & Father! SOME do say however, that Jesus does address God as his God and his father because he was A MAN however one of the clearest scripture which shows that Jesus is NOT God is Rev 3:12 where we see Jesus as NOT a man but back in heaven: "The one who is victorious I will make a pillar in the temple of my God. Never again will they leave it. I will write on them the name of my God and the name of the city of my God, the new Jerusalem, which is coming down out of heaven from my God; and I will also write on them my new name. New International Version So, please read Rev 1:1 which says: "a revelation from Jesus which GOD GAVE HIM" So WHO is the God Of Jesus, and what is his name ?

@robertlafontaine805 Жыл бұрын

I have a problem with the Trinity of God. To me the Father is the true God with a Holy Spirit. Jesus is the Son of the Father (God) also with a Holy Spirit and is as like the Father except the power comes from the Father and goes through is son Jesus. Jesus created all things with the power that was sent from the Father though Jesus. Is Jesus a God? Well he is the son of God and his divinity could be that of like a branch from a tree is no longer the tree it still was a tree with the same history up to the time of separation. In my view I can see Jesus as the creator, the builder but God the Father as the supplier of tools and power. With all this in mind Jesus as the power and authority from his Father to be the one to save all of the whole world.

@fleshtothefather Жыл бұрын

I love Christ, but I am not sure he is or even claimed to be God. The idea of original sin and Christ being a sacrifice doesn't make any sense to me. Christ told us to be born again spiritually and turn away from the fleshly sinful world we are born into. If you just look at every child born, they are born pure and innocent but become corrupted by the world. Christianity itself doesn't make much sense and even makes God seem slightly mental (hell and wrath) and incompetent. For example if Satan rebelled, why not cast him straight into the lake of fire? To me, most of the bible is stories with hidden meanings just as Christ taught in parables. Adam and Eve represents humans falling to the sinful fleshly world and Christ represents spiritual ressurection. They are personal journeys and all part of God's plan. He is in complete control and loves us all. All God wants is for us to return to him and love one another. I dont trust the bible fully as it was written by man, I trust being born again and using my spiritual discernment given to me by God ie my conscience. For example I don't need the bible to tell me not to murder or steal or hate my fellow man. I have the same relationship Adam had before the fall and he didn't need any book as he had a relationship with the father (though I do think the bible has some value) Believing in something doesn't transform us, only spiritual rebirth does. We've had thousands of years of belief and its gotten us nowhere, in fact Christians and religious people are just as bad as the world. I believe Christ mainly came or taught to free us from sin but also from religion and belief. Being born again is like going from a catterpillar to a butterfly but we go from human to spirit.

@bardowesselius4121 Жыл бұрын

Jesus is not God Almighty himself but His Son. Jesus has a God, that alone is enough to know he is not God. Jesus is divjne, but that does not mean he is God. Glorified believers will also be divine. Right now believers are partakers of the divine nature. Jesus is the one through whom He works. He has given him all authority. Verses like John 17:3, John 20:17 and even Revelation 3:12 are enough proof Jesus is not God but His Son, Mediator and Image.

@davidburrows4801 10 ай бұрын

Wrong, Christ is the Word of God In the flesh so is part of God how would he make the world his footstool if he wasn't part of God ?or how would he be the judge of men and forgive sin?

@bardowesselius4121 10 ай бұрын

@@davidburrows4801 God works through Jesus Christ. Jesus is the image of God, not God Himself. The Word BECAME flesh in the man Jesus. And through Christ, that same Word becomes flesh in all believers who make up the body of Chris. Christ is the mediator BETWEEN God and man. The perfect representation of His God and Father, in that sense you may call Him God. Jesus is not God Almighty Himself but His Christ, a man who became life giving spirit, the spiritual man through whom God does all His work of reconciliation.

@davidburrows4801 10 ай бұрын

@@bardowesselius4121 ,yep how i interpret from what ive learnt is Christ is all God and all man because he came direct from God the father in substance Christ directs people to the father because he is the main presence of God and Christ comes from that prescence.

@vince.sarigumba Жыл бұрын

the majority of christians and pastors they preach and they believe in endlesa torment or everlasting punishment or eternal hell fire eternity hell fire or eternal hell fire they preach that to congregation and in youtube and they believe that I Almost rebuke for my Belief in Universal Salvation because they believe and many of them believe in endless torment or eternal hell fire

@freespirit7450 Жыл бұрын

Hell doesn't make sense to me. It's like a woman giving birth to a baby just to lay it in the fire.

@lochermaleficent5062 Жыл бұрын

No it’s like knowing that if you create a baby it will fall into a pit of fire and be tortured by evil creatures that you created and you decide to create the baby anyway, and when it does wrong you allow it to be hurt in its present life and then toss then into the fire and torture later. Knowing the baby is fallable and stupid but it’s the baby’s fault for not listening.

@ba.anderson Жыл бұрын

Jesus is the Son of God. He claimed to be a man who tells the truth he heard from God. Why would God claim to ba a man who hears from someone else? (See Jn8:40) Also, why would God claim to have a God? (See Jn20:17 & Rev3:12) The prototype of every creature is himself a creation of God. Every creature is to follow suite. As in Adam we all die in Christ shall we all be made alive. By the disobedience of the one man we were all made sinners. Even so, by the obedience of the one man we shall all be made righteous. Death came by a man. The resurrection from the dead also came by a man. "Come out of her my people..."

@ba.anderson Жыл бұрын

Making Jesus God destroys the operation of God to transform corruption to incorruptible and mortal to immortality. That which is first is not spiritual but physical, then afterward, the spiritual. 1 Corinthians 15:45-51 VIN(i) 45 So it is written: “The first man Adam became a living being;” the last Adam a life-giving spirit. 46 But the spiritual is not first, but the natural; and afterward the spiritual. 47 The first man was of the dust of the earth, the second man from heaven. 48 As was the earthly man, so also are those who are of the earth; and as is the heavenly man, so also are those who are of heaven. 49 And just as we have borne the likeness of the earthly man, so also shall we bear the likeness of the heavenly man. 50 Now I declare to you, brothers, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable. 51 Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed- Now remember, before getting excited, every good and every perfect give comes from above. This doesn't require a contradiction to vs46. Everything begins in the natural then becomes spiritual. This "everything" includes which comes from heaven. The conduit is a means of delivery and not the source itself. This occurs when all sons of God are born from above. Those having been "born again" have knowledge of the heavens. This is the element of dialogue between Jesus and Nicodemus in Jn3.

@JennyS161 Жыл бұрын

Yahweh is not Jesus’ father. Yahweh is the god of the OT - the one whose works Jesus came to destroy. And there is much evidence within the bible to prove this.

@MarieFernandez539 Жыл бұрын

Yes yes you heard of Bobby collier channel ? Good God channel ? This is true.. sooo much evidence within scriptures..

@JennyS161 Жыл бұрын

@@MarieFernandez539 Daddy first opened my eyes to this truth, and then led me to Bobbys channel for confirmation. Once you see this truth, you see it all through the canon. But it is a very hard doctrine for people to let go of. Bless you my friend. 💛🕊️❤️

@MarieFernandez539 Жыл бұрын

@@JennyS161 yes ! I had those same thoughts and coming to his channel everything all tied together and it’s so hard to talk to others about it even showing them proof. God bless you lovely ! 🙏🏼 I don’t know any people knowing this.

@JennyS161 Жыл бұрын

@@MarieFernandez539 When daddy first opened me up to this truth, I had been listening to the gospel of Judas. In that gospel Jesus differentiates between the disciples father and his father. Then what sealed the deal for me was hearing Bobby talk about the serpent. He was sharing about Yahweh giving Israel biting serpents when they asked for food and then went on to show how Jesus said HIS father wouldn’t give us serpents if we asked for food - my paraphrase. That was my OMG moment. And then daddy showed me confirmation after confirmation. Anyway, we are told in the scriptures that Yahweh is not God. You’d know this, but I’ll share for those who don’t. “When the Most High apportioned the nations, at his dividing up of the sons of humankind, he fixed the boundaries of the peoples, according to the number of the children of Israel. For Yahweh’s portion was his people, Jacob the share of his inheritance.” ‭‭Deuteronomy‬ ‭32‬:‭8‬-‭9‬ ‭LEB‬‬

@jesusisgodalmightyamen492 Жыл бұрын

😂😂😂

@safenders Жыл бұрын

First born of all creation??? So you admit he is created and God is not created, so……

@jesusislovelightandlifefor8714 Жыл бұрын

The Christ is created.

@safenders Жыл бұрын

@@jesusislovelightandlifefor8714 so not God

@alexanderthegoat Жыл бұрын

*Inheritor* of all creation.

@cc3775 Жыл бұрын

No Jesus is not God. Jesus testifies about himself. I believe Jesus. but now you seek to kill me, a MAN who has told you the truth that I heard from God. This is not what Abraham did.” ‭‭John‬ ‭8:40‬ ‭ESV‬‬

@josephposey406 Жыл бұрын

God and Jesus still remain two entities But he, being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up stedfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God, And said, Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God. (Acts 7:55-56)

@jamesbarringer2737 Жыл бұрын

Jesus often points out to others that THEY said he is God. After accepting Christ when I read the line “Why do you say I am good? God alone is good,” I recognized this was but one of the multiple times when Jesus points out to others that they said he was God. But it sure feels good to hear a brother read this the same way.

@bardowesselius4121 Жыл бұрын

Maybe Jesus pointed to the presence of God in him, not that he was God Almighty himself. He wasn't pointing to himself but to his God and Father who is the ultimate source of being good. It is the Father working and through him, making him the Son of God and the example for us to follow.

@josephposey406 Жыл бұрын

Through the son everything was created. A perfect character clone of the Almighty essence who was given all authority, wisdom and ability to create ALL. God Almighty does not pray to himself!!!

@stephengorman1025 Жыл бұрын

The Apostle John believed he was God being the 2nd person of the Trinity. He makes this clear in John 1 and 1John 1.

@bardowesselius4121 Жыл бұрын

@@stephengorman1025 the scriptures in general never speak of a second person of a so called trinity. The apostle John never claimed that. His writings are widely misunderstood because of church tradition rooted in greek philosophy. In the gospel of John it is very clear Jesus is divine, but he is not God. Verses like John 17:3 and John 20:17 make a clear distinction between God and Jesus.

@stephengorman1025 Жыл бұрын

No he is the Son of God, the Logos through whom everything was created and for whom everything is created. If you have seen Jesus you have seen the Father and the Father and Son come to live in and through by the Spirit who then leads us into all truth. The Trinity is a term used to help us understand the mystery of the tri personal God who is Holy, Holy, Holy and has determined that Mankind will share in the great dance of their mutual love. Good News indeed.

@doriesse824 10 ай бұрын

Eek, now you're freaking me out! I was enjoying this channel until you started using the Babylonian Talmudic "Yah" names for our Heavenly Father. They are insulting and blasphemous. I hope you stop.

@marcob4645 Жыл бұрын

My friend, you don’t need to ask for proof to prove that Jesus was God even though it’s filled with the proof all you need is common sense where in the Bible can an angel die for you sins, what other means of create that God created that it could died for your sins none. can any animal or angels or any other creation that God made die for your sins the answer is no only God alone can die for your sins and to be fully forgiven. No creation of God can truly die for your sins forget the proof which is abundant just use common sense.

@Eclectifying Жыл бұрын

God never said that only God can die for your sins. That’s an unbiblical belief. In fact, God cannot die, since He is immortal.

@safenders Жыл бұрын

God doesn’t need to die for sins to be forgiven according to the Old Testament. There is no mediator and God forgives those who repent. No death for sin is mentioned.

@dorinamary7863 6 ай бұрын

@@safenders What do you think animal sacrifices were for?

@Cato1006 Жыл бұрын

The author of this video makes a huge blunder by not understanding that 1. Jesus was the Messiah and was sent by God and represented God. 2. Jesus NEVER claimed himself that he was God! I am amazed that he skipped the part where Jesus Called himself the Son of Man and not Yahweh. God clearly gave Jesus his authority and that authority derived and given to him by God who he called his Father. How did he miss this? Also, keep in mind if Jesus Christ has any God over him who is greater in authority and greater in ability than himself or not, then this will decide the matter, once and for all. For if Jesus has a God above him, then he is not the absolutely supreme God. I hope the author responds to this post. If he does not, then it is because he has no answer.

@Dekadin2 Жыл бұрын

Im having a hard time believing you even watched the video

@TheWhyisthatso Жыл бұрын

"Father" = MIND ( Infinite, Ineffable, Incomprehensible, Invisible, Pure and Perfect Divine Mind ) "Mother" = THOUGHT ( Holy (set apart) Spirit (Mind), Mother of ALL Life, Giving "Birth" to ALL Things ) "Son" (Child) = CONSCIOUSNESS ( The Conception of The Union of Mind and Thought, The "Word" ( Logos= Revealed Thought ) of the Father/Mother, The Creator of All Concepts of Life and Being ) This is the TRUE "Holy Trinity" or One "Spirit" (Mind) that is "God" ( John 4:24 )..... and the human "family" , "made in the IMAGE of God"......is a "carbon copy"......LITERALLY .

@woodendoors1075 Жыл бұрын

God can not die so Jesus could not have been God because he never died.

@jasonegeland1446 Жыл бұрын

But if God made himself to be human, then he would be aware in advance that he would have to eventually die (as humans do). I'll be honest, I've been back and forth on this for a while. Every time I think I've found the perfect proof texts for Jesus being the figurative son or the literal son, I end up changing my mind. I think it's okay for us to admit we get confused by the texts in Scripture. Many of my Universalist friends have a very strong conviction for both arguments, and some of them will get upset if you tell them you disagree or even if you're not sure. It can be quite stressful sometimes to not be a hundred percent confident in our understanding of Scripture. I believe in the salvation of all. That's good enough for me for the present time. When the Holy Spirit reveals the full truth to me, then I can say one way or the other with that confidence.

@Eclectifying Жыл бұрын

@@jasonegeland1446the thing is that the idea that God incarnated as a man is completely absent from Scripture. It’s read into places like John 1 and Philippians 2. Those passages are not saying what we’ve been taught to interpret them as saying.

@Eclectifying Жыл бұрын

@jesusislovelightandlifefor8714 Жыл бұрын

Shalom Peace be to you. Death as the world perceives it doesn't actually exists. Understand that we are first and foremost a spirit. When a spirit receives a body we *FORM* a soul (consciousness). Soul: Someone's whole life, our received experiences in this life. (mind, consciousness). When we "die" the body goes into the grave, the spirit (attitude) with its experiences in this life (soul) go back to the single source of all spirits. The Father of all spirits, the divine Spirit, The one true God of all of creation. The name of God is revealed to us when He (the divine Spirit) entered a human body, God manifested in the flesh, the son of mankind, the light that walks among us. His name is know to us as Jesus. By entering this world (in a human body) this way He created the mind (soul) of Christ. This is what died"", or better understood as: stopped having experiences because of the fact that His body was separated from His divine Spirit. Funfact: And the reason why The Lord Jesus raised His own temple (body) the 3rd day is because the Jews believed that none could be raised after such time. To God is all the glory.

@jasonegeland1446 Жыл бұрын

@@Eclectifying That's interesting. I'm still researching this. I don't claim to know anything for certain. I try to always make that clear to others. Thanks for the insight.