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5 жыл бұрын

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Pixar is one of the greatest film studios of all time, but that mojo that was so present in the early days is now fading. This makes us ask the following questions; Did we need a sequel to Monsters Inc, Toy Story, Finding Nemo and Incredibles? Is Inside Out and Coco a cinematic masterpiece? Is Pixar dead?
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@thepapermask2102
@thepapermask2102 5 жыл бұрын
Whatever you do, Pixar, *you may never touch Rattatoulie. No sequel-making. Shoo.*
@thegoosh6469
@thegoosh6469 5 жыл бұрын
ThePaperMask And if you make a shitty sequel to WALL-E, we're through.
@thepapermask2102
@thepapermask2102 5 жыл бұрын
Exactly. I mean, I heard the Incredibles 2 is pretty amazing... I will excuse it if they manage to make an amazing sequel for Ratatoulie, and... maybe... Wall-E. Like, it really doesn't need one. It really doesn't, neither does Ratatouile, but, let's see, aye?
@tomo4977
@tomo4977 5 жыл бұрын
Oh we all know it's going to happen.
@IdeaBox-dk5vj
@IdeaBox-dk5vj 5 жыл бұрын
At the very least, make a miniseries instead if you want to continue Remy's story.
@meowmeow5591
@meowmeow5591 5 жыл бұрын
ThePaperMask The incredible 2 is far from amazing. It's definitely not horrendous like the nut job or that bull movie or anything like that but its lackluster and over hyped and no where near comparable to the original. It's a shitty sequel
@24FramesOfNick
@24FramesOfNick 5 жыл бұрын
I always forget about the existence of The Good Dinosaur
@stephancalitz7113
@stephancalitz7113 5 жыл бұрын
24 Frames Of Nick that's a thing? Huh
@MarkyMatey
@MarkyMatey 5 жыл бұрын
So do I.
@Cloudfrog7
@Cloudfrog7 5 жыл бұрын
24 Frames Of Nick same
@lbdproductions1596
@lbdproductions1596 5 жыл бұрын
The Good Dinosaur is a good movie about the theme of fear. Is not a masterpiece, is not horrible. It is good.
@pedropony8060
@pedropony8060 5 жыл бұрын
a good dinosaur? barney is not pixar wtf
@drakestallworth3621
@drakestallworth3621 5 жыл бұрын
Inside Out is not about the traditional journey where people travel miles and miles. It’s about an emotional journey that makes it the probably the most mature and deep movie I have ever seen, thus making it my favorite movie.
@PeruvianPotato
@PeruvianPotato 5 жыл бұрын
The plot holes take that away though
@KyrieFortune
@KyrieFortune 3 жыл бұрын
"The Day of the Dead doesn't tie into the themes" ah yes, the festivity that is about reconnecting with your family and ancestry and how the living relate to the dead has nothing to do with the movie that talks about family and ancestry and how the living relate to the dead
@luckyspurs
@luckyspurs 3 жыл бұрын
It's possible to argue Coco has one theme and doesn't take risks, but to say it's themes and setting don't tie together is ridiculous isn't it. That's why it gets you so much emotionally, because it all fits, every bit of the story has come together to earn the ending. You might as well argue the opening scene of Lion King doesn't tie into the themes, which would be equally ridiculous. Also, simple doesn't mean bad. Done well, it often means good.
@missmarshmallowqueenkate5899
@missmarshmallowqueenkate5899 3 жыл бұрын
Yes! I think that while Coco definetely has plot holes, it is an amazing movie none the less. If you look at it from a surface level, Miguel is your average kid that lfollows the heros journey and follows his dreams,etc. However the point of the story is that sometimes family is more important than following your dreams and by that message, it ends up with the family accepting music.
@VictoryReviews
@VictoryReviews 3 жыл бұрын
But they dont explore the world very much it's just a location for miguel to goof off in
@IcyDiamond
@IcyDiamond 3 жыл бұрын
It’s not even his most stupid complaint
@Thecatdrums3
@Thecatdrums3 3 жыл бұрын
Victory Reviews yeah that house and the boats and the street corners/ alleys are really just places for a character to be and not an environment that was explored!
@rhondahoward8025
@rhondahoward8025 5 жыл бұрын
Funny how you bring up how hard it was to animate over 400 ants on screen when the limit previous set with their budget was only 50, yet give no mention to how much work went into animating the octopus Hank for Finding Dory. If you're gonna give credit for production effort, that took a lot of passion to do.
@mattburtless5783
@mattburtless5783 5 жыл бұрын
I know right? Or how hard it was to make Violet Parr's hair, The skin textures and accurate guitar playing in Coco, or in Wall-E: the protag, who's head is only a pair of binocular eyes and only speaks in gradations of "waalleee!" (and similarly for EVE), is more emotive than most other characters. I find that it is also a disservice that NitPix praises the early Pixar films for their success and how quick they put out movies without mentioning the contentious relationship between Dreamworks and Pixar.
@IcyDiamond
@IcyDiamond 4 жыл бұрын
Every Pixar movie actually has one very hard thing to animate
@FrankHunes
@FrankHunes Жыл бұрын
the thing you miss is that it was revolutionary at the time, and while the newer animation should also get praised it‘s not the same so maybe think a bit before you judge
@abigailreinfeld6394
@abigailreinfeld6394 5 жыл бұрын
Chicken run is undoubtably the best Pixar movie. Walt Disney really did a good job with that one
@lbdproductions1596
@lbdproductions1596 5 жыл бұрын
LOL
@spenser9908
@spenser9908 5 жыл бұрын
It wasn't Disney, it was Platinum Dunes.
@rockdesu
@rockdesu 5 жыл бұрын
Lol
@meris8486
@meris8486 5 жыл бұрын
D Fens Whoooooosh
@spenser9908
@spenser9908 5 жыл бұрын
You realise Chicken Run wasn't produced by Platinum Dunes either, right?
@nathantitterington1005
@nathantitterington1005 5 жыл бұрын
“Day of the dead land just looked interesting, it was nothing” also nitpix “BUGS LIFE HAD FOUR HUNDRED THIRTY ONE ANTS OH MY GOD”
@antboy9252
@antboy9252 5 жыл бұрын
Also NitPix: LiOn KiNg SuX bEcAuSe It RiPs OfF sHaKeSpEaRe
@MrStarseaker
@MrStarseaker 5 жыл бұрын
Antboy 925 understanding a joke is really hard
@therealmadmaz
@therealmadmaz 5 жыл бұрын
@@antboy9252 but it was completely ripped off of kimba the white lion
@alfa01spotivo
@alfa01spotivo 4 жыл бұрын
because that was pushing boundaries, something which the day of the dead land didnt do
@manumooo9071
@manumooo9071 4 жыл бұрын
@@alfa01spotivo yeah but are really people starting to bash recent movies graphics just because technology has evolutioned so it was easier to make them? Of course there has to be respect to pixar because they brought something new but don't frame recent movies as "bad" just because they did't have to work with the same resources.
@lizn.s.5519
@lizn.s.5519 5 жыл бұрын
The skeleton sidekick is Miguel's grandpa who died after Ernesto de la Cruz murdered him because he didn't want to continue with his singing career therefore leaving Ernesto without new songs to sing. This is also pertinent to the story because Héctor (Miguel's true grandfather) wanted to get back home to his daughter Coco but never did because he died. This lead to Héctor's family thinking he just persued his career and never went back home because of greed or pride... And there's so much more about this movie The problem isn't that you didn't like Coco, it is actually that you made it seem bland and lacking of a good story when actually it's an excellent movie.
@beajack4990
@beajack4990 5 жыл бұрын
Liz N.S. Yeah but the fact that the dad constantly wrote letters to coco and then they suddenly stopped would raise suspicion. Also Ernesto got famous with the grandpas songs. And the most popular one was COCO’S SONG. So would that also raise suspicion? “Hey I haven’t heard from my dad in a while, and his music buddy is singing his songs...hmm”
@IcyDiamond
@IcyDiamond 3 жыл бұрын
Liz N.S. It’s in my top 5 Pixar movies
@quadeong7453
@quadeong7453 3 жыл бұрын
@@beajack4990 Imelda probably never wrote back to him so its stands to reason that they thought Hector might have just realized it was futile and stopped writing or that he just forgot about them eventually.
@piecrumbs9951
@piecrumbs9951 5 жыл бұрын
I love how he praises Bug’s Life And then barely skims over Up and Wall-E And then shits on Coco Saying it’s only for kids Even though the movies he liked were released when he was a kid
@brandon_Larsen
@brandon_Larsen 5 жыл бұрын
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@BROJANGSTER
@BROJANGSTER 5 жыл бұрын
Not Todd Howard that’s your opinion, but Monsters Inc. is one of my favorite Pixar movies
@piecrumbs9951
@piecrumbs9951 5 жыл бұрын
Not Todd Howard That as well young gamer friend risebup lol xddddddd uwu uwu uwu
@spenser9908
@spenser9908 5 жыл бұрын
Did you miss the parts where he directly compared them and outlined specifically where the older movies succeeded and where the newer ones failed?
@piecrumbs9951
@piecrumbs9951 5 жыл бұрын
Bill Murray from The Man Who Knew Too Little hmmm I must’ve missed them Because I have no idea who your responding to or what your talking about
@OddTillTheEnd
@OddTillTheEnd 5 жыл бұрын
Okay, but I have a problem with your analysis of Monsters University. While yes, the Scare Games do ultimately teach Mike and Sulley about teamwork and self-worth and all that, it's a mischaracterization to say it has an entirely generic, overdone message. Mike wants to be scary. But he isn't. At the end of the film, he's forced to accept that. There's no kid's film BS about how "he tried really hard and achieved his dream despite the obstacles in his way." No. Mike is slapped in the face with the cruel reality that he has to settle for something else. And make do with it. I think that's a really interesting, subversive message. Plus, I think it's just a fun movie. I don't watch college movies, ever, so the tropes don't wear me out as much as other people, which probably has something to do with my opinion on it. Is it as good as Monsters Inc? Of course not. But don't write it off entirely.
@msnmpn7
@msnmpn7 5 жыл бұрын
OddTillTheEnd I think it also has to do with the fact that Monsters University is a prequel to Monsters, Inc. People seem to not care about HOW something is done when it comes to movies. The Infinity War characters that died are obviously coming back so some people feel like they can't care about the ending as much because we know they're coming back. The whole point of the next Avengers movie is how they get brought back, how the survivors deal with those deaths, and what they then have to sacrifice in order to undo what Thanos has done, but people don't seem to care about that. We know from Monsters, Inc. that Mike and Sulley are best friends and that Sulley is the one who goes through the doors to scare children while Mike has all the strategies planned out. When Monsters University positions them as enemies with Mike wanting to scare instead of strategize it forces us to look at the story from a different angle. The question of the movie then becomes "how do we get there from here?" but that is for some reason an uninteresting question to a lot of people.
@Hyperion5566
@Hyperion5566 5 жыл бұрын
Subversion is interesting?
@OddTillTheEnd
@OddTillTheEnd 5 жыл бұрын
msnmpn 7 I agree. In regards to Infinity War, the feeling is definitely there that the ending doesn't matter. It would be more of a bold choice to have the villain win if we weren't so completely sure he will be defeated in part two. However, there's something to be said about the shock value of seeing mainstream beloved hero characters get turned into dust while their friends look on in horror. It's a pretty depressing way to end a movie, regardless of how things turn out in the future. I think you're right that "how" is an uninteresting question for MU, especially when it's the only question. You can, however, argue that James Bond films are so predictable that they are also devoid of most questions except "how". Same with Scooby-Doo. So how can they get away with that? I think the answer is that both of those are long series where the core engagement is "how". If you're not on board with "how", then you'll just avoid them. Since the original Monsters Inc. explores so many other questions, a film that only explores "how" seems much more shallow.
@OddTillTheEnd
@OddTillTheEnd 5 жыл бұрын
Bionicelcor Yes. I think subversion is inherently interesting, at the very least, because by its very nature it has to both be different and provide commentary on what came before. If you don't think that's interesting, then we simply disagree.
@Hyperion5566
@Hyperion5566 5 жыл бұрын
OddTillTheEnd Commentary or just a reference? There really is no commentary in previous instantaneous deconstruction. If subversion is done well, with the addition of other narrative devices it has the opportunity to say something, but that’s not the case for it alone and for its most recent executions in media.
@fyukfy2366
@fyukfy2366 5 жыл бұрын
"No monstrous qualities at all" *shows building filled with fake teeth and spikes just like in the original*
@NSGrendel
@NSGrendel 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, but it's toned WAY down.
@qepdqepd5612
@qepdqepd5612 4 жыл бұрын
NSGrendel subtlety isn’t an art? I came back to this video after a rewatch of Monster’s University and I agree that the worldbuilding is better in the original and that the monster designs here are made more generic (probably bc there’s such a greater number of them? Idk).... but I don’t get the point of how adding monster spikes to everything makes Inc better. Do humans put human ears over everything? Different door sizes? Good worldbuilding. Random spikes??? I really like that building in MU that he showed bc it looks like what a university building might look like in their world. The architecture is very similar to ours, but in a world focused on being scary, it makes sense to incorporate some spikes but in a subtle way. Couldn’t you say the same thing about Mike’s car? Sure I guess. And there’s lots of times MU takes the generic road... the trash food is pretty lame... but I mean is the bad smelling deodorant in the original too different a joke? Idk. My main issue with this video and not just this part of it is how it down plays nuances to make a point. How is an environmental message in Wall•E more of a risk than centering the message around a real world culture of a non white people in Coco? Does he know that the “generic” paper in the opening is part of Mexican culture as well? Idk... it’s like I agree with most of his points but he comes across as so ignorant as he’s making them bc of the way he presents them. And showing a frame of a building with monster designs in an argument about lack of monster designs is just such a perfectly ironic way to demonstrate this lack of nuanced thinking.
@adamkalb1
@adamkalb1 4 жыл бұрын
"Face it, NitPix. 👈 You lied to us."-Queen, A Bug's Life
@thehoosher9322
@thehoosher9322 5 жыл бұрын
The villian in coco is bad because: - He does bad things to achieve his goal Never heard that in a pixar movie before
@zoazede2098
@zoazede2098 4 жыл бұрын
That was ridiculous, the "villain" had literally NO REASON to kill is best friend, the real villain was the old bitch that freaked out her family because she's an idiot that never thought on the possibility that her husband was killed
@Alexander-hi8bo
@Alexander-hi8bo 4 жыл бұрын
Eugenia Verónica Bonsembiante he did become rich and famous so it did work out for him
@zoazede2098
@zoazede2098 4 жыл бұрын
@@Alexander-hi8bo I'm not saying that it doesn't worked for him in that very convenient context, I said that it's forced as fuck, because literally NO ONE (except appearently Pixar directors/writers) would have think "Oh, my best friend wants to go home with his family, I guess I'll kill him instead of just making a deal with him so it's a legit win/win"... See the problem????
@MPLE2024
@MPLE2024 4 жыл бұрын
Alexander Gehn Airport
@jinjibells4891
@jinjibells4891 3 жыл бұрын
Eugenia Verónica Bonsembiante a psychopath would think that
@AmandaTheJedi
@AmandaTheJedi 5 жыл бұрын
I was fine with Toy Story 3... but dear god why Toy Story 4
@lbdproductions1596
@lbdproductions1596 5 жыл бұрын
Toy Story 4 should be a spin off about the romance story between Woody and BeBoop.
@ryanb3665
@ryanb3665 5 жыл бұрын
LBD Productions That’s the plot of Toy Story 4.
@Commander_Shepard.
@Commander_Shepard. 5 жыл бұрын
LBD Productions Bebop is dead! >:(
@lbdproductions1596
@lbdproductions1596 5 жыл бұрын
But Pixar wants to tell this love story! *prepare to cry
@alaplaya5
@alaplaya5 5 жыл бұрын
Commander Shepard she is alive >=(
@jimpachi98
@jimpachi98 5 жыл бұрын
I think you ripped into Inside Out and Coco our of nostalgia. That fact that Coco follows a simple three act structure isn’t really a criticism. It’s just an observation that it has something in common with most movies, ever. The original Toy Story and the Pixar movies that followed it also played into tropes and cliches. The conflict between Woody and Buzz is a classic new-guy-in-town situation that’s been done many times before. You also don’t give Coco credit for the amount of creative visual style and flair, or for the fantastic music. La Llorona is a great song that is used as a powerful storytelling device. Without words, a huge change in her character is indicated as soon as she starts singing on the stage. It’s things like these, the creative ways that animated films communicate story, that you praise the earlier films for yet ignore for the new ones. I agree that Pixar’s filmography has become rife with sequels everywhere, but the ones that aren’t sequels are still excellent.
@Hyperion5566
@Hyperion5566 5 жыл бұрын
Kodo Elder-Groebe So much why but enough how
@fpberserk4690
@fpberserk4690 5 жыл бұрын
Daniel Bathen Ignore him,he's just a pathetic troll who is clearly hungry for 5 secs of attention.
@jovanym2931
@jovanym2931 5 жыл бұрын
stellvia hoenheim Shut the hell up ignorant fuck .
@jovanym2931
@jovanym2931 5 жыл бұрын
stellvia hoenheim I am sorry you don’t get the attention you need at home
@timekeeper2538
@timekeeper2538 5 жыл бұрын
stellvia hoenheim The American Southwest has heavy Mexican heritage in it, as such it is part of America's culture.
@dragongirl7978
@dragongirl7978 5 жыл бұрын
I actually really liked Monsters University. I thought the message it sent was unusual and important, that sometimes you just don't have the skills required to follow your dreams, and you need to do something different. And sometimes things go wrong and you have to pay your dues and work hard to take a different path to success. It's very subversive to the typical "happily ever after" and "you can do anything" message we normally get in kid films. I'm actually really disappointed more people aren't talking about this. As an adult who has had things go wrong and had to take alternative paths to success, that recognition meant a lot to me. Also, as someone who has worked extensively with people with cognitive disabilities, I found Finding Dory more compelling than Finding Nemo, because it showed how having a disability can in fact be a real problem, not just played for laughs, and how important it is to have a support group. I think people are too judgemental of these films.
@jeromealday614
@jeromealday614 5 жыл бұрын
I didn't knew Monster University pushed a subversive message like that. But I liked it better than "you can do anything if you believe in yourself" bs.
@bloody_outlaw8000
@bloody_outlaw8000 4 жыл бұрын
you lost me at finding dory is better than finding Nemo..maybe it means more to you but there is no way its a great sequel.. although i do agree that monsters university is really underrated
@dragongirl7978
@dragongirl7978 4 жыл бұрын
@@bloody_outlaw8000 I didn't say it was better, I said I found it more compelling. Same with Frozen 2 recently. I tend to be a little more subjective about my media... Like I can appreciate the technical prowess of a movie or whatever, But the thing that really impacts me is the message. Finding Nemo was undoubtedly an excellent movie and I enjoyed it, and I don't think I have the objectivity to compare it with Finding Dory as far as which makes a "better movie." But the message of Finding Nemo was pretty basic, about parents needing to learn to stop being overprotective, etc. But when have we EVER seen a kids' movie where a character struggles with a mental disability? Because I don't know about you, but Finding Dory was the first I've seen, and they handled it with so much dignity and compassion, it just meant so much to me.
@MissFlow
@MissFlow 3 жыл бұрын
I just made a similair comment like this but you beat me to it! The movie shows that NO you CAN'T always do what you dream of, tough shit but you have to find a way to deal with it. It's oke, go find something else, there is a lot in the world and you are meant for something, just... not what you initially dreamed of! Also, the movie teaches a parallel moral to this: you can have ALL the talent in the world, but without hard work and a lazy cocky attitude that talent is useless.
@guythatdosethingssometimes2651
@guythatdosethingssometimes2651 3 жыл бұрын
For me atleast a compelling lesson or theme dosent really matter when almost everything else was mostly boring and stale. A somewhat compelling massage dosent save a movie on it's own Atleast not for me. The movies were just fine if not a bit bland.But I will concede that the massage in monsters uni is something more movies and shows should tackle..
@pixigrl26
@pixigrl26 5 жыл бұрын
I finally got around to watching Coco last night (for some reason when it was first out it just didn’t look all that interesting to me), and i have to respectfully disagree with you about it being just for “little little babies” and not for adults at all. The themes in Coco can very much translate to adults, we have all lost someone, we have all been scared of being forgotten after we die. Those ARE NOT childhood themes, so I think you need to maybe rethink what you consider “little little baby” movies.
@nascour5991
@nascour5991 2 жыл бұрын
I think it's just a buzzword for movies he doesn't like lol
@elijahbachrach6579
@elijahbachrach6579 2 жыл бұрын
I think death and loss are fantastic themes to explore. I would have loved to meet all kinds of interesting characters and dangers in the land of the dead. Each new encounter could teach our protagonist important lessons that all come together in the final act. Leave out the guitar and the shallow villain, focus on the afterworld adventures and loss and you’d have a more focused movie.
@antoniomendes7961
@antoniomendes7961 2 жыл бұрын
The problem isn't that the movie has "childhood" themes - all themes are themes - it's that the way these themes are explored is very poor and derivative. When people say "X" movie is made for kids, they aren't saying the lessons in the movie aren't valuable to everyone, or that . They're saying that "X" movie is so poorly put together that it can only fully be enjoyed by kid, who doesn't have their brain fully formed yet. Does this mean you can't enjoy a "kids movie"? No of course not. There could be many reasons why. People mature at different rates. Very few people ever end up developing good taste for particular media (let alone decent), so cheap, manipulative clichés don't get them so easily. Maybe you recently experienced loss so you were very biased towards really resonating with Coco. That doesn't distract away from that it could be a poorly told story.
@andrewkful
@andrewkful 5 жыл бұрын
... Toy Story 3 DOES have a character arc. Woody at the beginning thinks the key to happiness is staying with Andy or else they'll all face either being neglected or destroyed, and through the film he realizes that you should let go of what you're used to because the world changes and you should instead find the next happy moment unless you want to wind up like Lotso who only cared about one single kid.
@justthatguy9077
@justthatguy9077 5 жыл бұрын
andrewkful ha... just like toy story two.
@moomimi
@moomimi 5 жыл бұрын
Justthatguy Jesse?
@justthatguy9077
@justthatguy9077 5 жыл бұрын
I was there the whole time yeah
@nathang6376
@nathang6376 5 жыл бұрын
You're absolutely right. Toy Story needed a film in which the Prospectors ominous words to Woody would come to fulfillment. "Do you really think Andy's going to take you to college...Andy's growing up..."
@Jackrabbit7
@Jackrabbit7 3 жыл бұрын
That’s literally the theme in Toy Story 2
@joaco101097
@joaco101097 5 жыл бұрын
I was agreeing with this video almost 100% until you reached Coco... Coco is a VERY powerful film that wouldn't even begin to be understood by "little little babies". My four year old cousin loved the songs and the colors, but he didn't even begin to grasp why his mother and I were bawling our eyes out when Mama Coco began to sing. My own grandmother had Alzheimer's and had recently passed away when I watched Coco. This film hit extremely close to home and became a more powerful movie than what A Bug's Life will ever be, even given my 20 years old as I watched a "film for little little babies". I think you're being the one driven by nostalgia and the reason why member movies exist, because whenever they innovate and do things RIGHT like Inside Out or especially Coco, someone comes and says "But Toy Story... And Monsters Inc.... And Up..." I love all of those movies but I still allow myself to love some of these new Pixar films as well. I don't think Pixar is dead, I think some people are way too fond of their past and nostalgia and unwilling to accept that a new film might have the same or more meaning than one of the classics. Coco deals with such deep, complex and mature themes that Toy Story, A Bug's Life and Monsters Inc. don't even get close to. If you ask me, death and remembrance of those who are no longer with us is much more mature theme than accepting who you are (as important as the latter might be). And you criticize Coco's villain for being "overly melodramatic"... That was the whole point of it. I now question how skilled you actually are at judging movies that you didn't grow up with.
@theladofwisdom919
@theladofwisdom919 5 жыл бұрын
I watched the movie literally hours before my grandma died So whenever I watch it I always cry
@giannispixel
@giannispixel 5 жыл бұрын
Is the mkvie good cause i might watch it It reminds me of undertale for some reason
@sethvanpelt5707
@sethvanpelt5707 5 жыл бұрын
Also.. Inside Out wasn't shit. Fight me. I don't care
@marvinmarvin387
@marvinmarvin387 5 жыл бұрын
I fully agree… It's the mentality what yesterday was everything better than today. Inside out is Beautiful. And the world they created is understandable. Sure, you could do everything in an even more complex way, but does that really help the plot? And complaining about characters who are supposed to act as one-dimensional feelings that they are one-dimensional... good job
@edef1244
@edef1244 5 жыл бұрын
While Inside Out really didn't have an impact that others got from it, Coco did.
@fantastiqgaming
@fantastiqgaming 3 жыл бұрын
Basically calling anyone who likes coco or inside out little little babies, even tho you say you understand why people like them, you still dig into them like that several sentences later with complete sincerity
@IcyDiamond
@IcyDiamond 3 жыл бұрын
BenIs2Bored I liked them so I guess I’m a little baby lol
@irlelliewilliams
@irlelliewilliams 3 жыл бұрын
Oh no someone has an opinion what a bAby
@user-sp2jg9rx8r
@user-sp2jg9rx8r 3 жыл бұрын
I love Inside Out. =)
@BOFAMET
@BOFAMET 2 жыл бұрын
Please tell me that in the year since writing this comment you learned how to understand dry humor.
@Rodniikun
@Rodniikun Жыл бұрын
you sound like one, so I guess he was right.
@xuxuxuxuxuxuxu1341
@xuxuxuxuxuxuxu1341 5 жыл бұрын
Damn dude, you've angered the Coco Cult lmao
@PeruvianPotato
@PeruvianPotato 5 жыл бұрын
No because his arguments were retarded
@alfa01spotivo
@alfa01spotivo 4 жыл бұрын
lol so true.
@SistoActivitatemAtm
@SistoActivitatemAtm 4 жыл бұрын
Peruvian Potato instead of being defensive, you might be in a better position if you accept that others have different opinions than you, even if they disagree with your thoughts. You can like coco, but that doesn't mean netpixs argument was bad.
@Hayden_Cat
@Hayden_Cat 3 жыл бұрын
Peruvian Potato r-slur
@mpcc2022
@mpcc2022 3 жыл бұрын
@@PeruvianPotato His arguments are about artistic integrity and the decline in production value not cultural accuracy or likability.
@silverscorpio24
@silverscorpio24 5 жыл бұрын
I feel once Disney got complete control over Pixar, the quality of their movies went down Inside Out aside, of course
@Tigerheiress
@Tigerheiress Жыл бұрын
REAL
@robertlauncher
@robertlauncher 5 жыл бұрын
I feel like you demonstrate a misunderstanding of the holiday when you expect Coco to focus on loss. It’s a celebration of the spirits of the dead, not a funeral
@Eliashoffman580
@Eliashoffman580 5 жыл бұрын
Pe Co the movie makes it clear what the holiday means; if people can’t understand that, it’s their own fault
@KeishenLloyd
@KeishenLloyd 5 жыл бұрын
If you can't follow what the holiday is about when they literally explain it outloud, you're just a big dum dum.
@Mathadar
@Mathadar 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I mean, its not like its obvious from all the celebrations, and concert, and generally upbeat atmosphere even among the dead. It even ends on a huge celebration with members of their family, alive and dead.
@Gab98Spyro
@Gab98Spyro 5 жыл бұрын
The reason why Coco is such a fantastic movie is exactly because it brings a topic as taboo as death into children's lives and teaches them to see it as something more than purely loss.
@ryguy1483
@ryguy1483 5 жыл бұрын
@@Gab98Spyro I feel like that's not exactly a groundbreaking theme though.
@sirstupifie4958
@sirstupifie4958 3 жыл бұрын
I think I you misunderstood Coco, the family hating music stuff is a subplot and is not the main focus
@Thecatdrums3
@Thecatdrums3 3 жыл бұрын
Nah fam that literally is the thing that gets the movie going. It’s a B plot not a subplot dude
@sketchyjulia
@sketchyjulia 3 жыл бұрын
Plus it doesn’t compare to how Remy’s family didn’t approve of his passion - it was because he was a rat who wanted to be a chef, in human society. Miguel’s family forbid him from playing music due to his great great grandfather abandoning his wife and daughter to be a musician.
@yoboibeerus1387
@yoboibeerus1387 3 жыл бұрын
Its still dumb tough... And it is what causes the conflict of the film.
@AustinAKR
@AustinAKR 5 жыл бұрын
"Coco is for baby's" **Coco litrilly throws the main character off a building**
@i_am_ergo
@i_am_ergo 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, and Wile E. Coyote falls off cliffs and has mountains fall on him. Your point?
@MrSimpsondennis
@MrSimpsondennis 4 жыл бұрын
@@jamesgrettoons414 Add a Soul Stone plot and the scene would've been dramatic :p
@LordMegatron-qk2gz
@LordMegatron-qk2gz 4 жыл бұрын
@James Grettons,its funny how Coco and Avengers Infinty War are both owned by Disney🤣🤣🤣
@binktops
@binktops 4 жыл бұрын
Literally is literally spelled literally.
@nicholasheilig3694
@nicholasheilig3694 4 жыл бұрын
It's for baby's because it's so bland and simple.
@ajzeg01
@ajzeg01 5 жыл бұрын
You might say that Pixar is falling with style.
@SeaStarTea
@SeaStarTea 5 жыл бұрын
😆😆😆
@theviniso
@theviniso 5 жыл бұрын
Well, they're not flying for sure.
@justinstewart9145
@justinstewart9145 5 жыл бұрын
Inside Out? Coco? Incredibles 2? Pixar is doing well.
@cholanraje1410
@cholanraje1410 5 жыл бұрын
I like you.
@PeruvianPotato
@PeruvianPotato 5 жыл бұрын
@@justinstewart9145 1 out of the 3 movies were good, guess which one?
@alexbennet4195
@alexbennet4195 5 жыл бұрын
“The Day of the Dead doesn’t tie into the themes” Did you even watch Coco? But seriously, I see a lot of conformation bias here. A Bug’s Life is hardly some iconic masterpiece, but you seem to be really exaggerating how good the older films were while desperately gripping on to any perceived flaws in the newer ones.
@SaidSakpDemir
@SaidSakpDemir 5 жыл бұрын
The only thing he focused on "A Bug's Life" was the ambition in animation technology, he barely doesn't even mention anything else about the film. He only used abl to argue that there used to be ambition behind projects. Why the hell is everyone down here saying he said it was a masterpiece?
@zoazede2098
@zoazede2098 5 жыл бұрын
Calma man, Coco isn't any masterpiece either
@ossomysteriossobutyoucanca9472
@ossomysteriossobutyoucanca9472 5 жыл бұрын
Alex Bennet *O P I N I O N* I liked the movie, but people are allowed to not like movies if they choose.
@barsbay7598
@barsbay7598 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah this dude comes off as some contrarian tryhard
@Flaris
@Flaris 5 жыл бұрын
@@SaidSakpDemir I think that's the point though. He only talks about the technological aspect to a Bug's Life so he woulldn't have to admit that early Pixar wasn't always perfect. Because that would undermine the argument that older Pixar is glorious and newer Pixar just sucks.
@pinhead35
@pinhead35 5 жыл бұрын
Just a reminder Coco broke ground with new lighting technology
@Seurnn
@Seurnn 5 жыл бұрын
So did Avatar but who cares about that anymore?
@pinhead35
@pinhead35 5 жыл бұрын
Sean S Avatar isn’t Pixar
@alfa01spotivo
@alfa01spotivo 5 жыл бұрын
did it break ground with anything else
@LordMegatron-qk2gz
@LordMegatron-qk2gz 4 жыл бұрын
@Nick Pelayo,Avatar was made by Fox who is now owned by Disney who also owns the Pixar films so they're sort of the same with the lighting technology?
@APAL880
@APAL880 4 жыл бұрын
this is a joke right? you sound like Prequel fans. i hope you're an RLM fan.
@dampowl
@dampowl 4 жыл бұрын
I agreed with all of your points until you got to Coco. I’m also fed up with the amount of sequels and “member-movies”, but I must give credit where it’s due. Despite its narrative structure being somewhat formulaic I still really like Coco for its characters, music, art direction and emotions. I feel this video would sit better if you used “I” statements rather than “you” statements. Because as it stands, I feel you’re trying to pass your opinion off as objective fact. And while I mostly agreed with your points I don’t think this is a good way to argue them.
@adamzunk9901
@adamzunk9901 5 жыл бұрын
"With Inside Out the world design is so poorly put together, it's near impossible to map out the various locations" There's literally a scene where they look over the world of Riley's head and point out each of the locations as if on a giant map.
@danielpaternostre4991
@danielpaternostre4991 5 жыл бұрын
He means in terms of unique visuals. He already mentioned in the video that each new location is explained through narration.
@waywardlaser
@waywardlaser 5 жыл бұрын
I'll defend Cars 1 and 3 til I die. Weird how they skipped 2 though.
@shawklan27
@shawklan27 5 жыл бұрын
not you same lol
@theviniso
@theviniso 5 жыл бұрын
I mean, Cars 1 is not a bad movie, it just pales in comparison to what they had done at the time. Cars 2 was a complete trainwreck though
@someonerandom8552
@someonerandom8552 5 жыл бұрын
Cars 2? Never heard of it 😆
@Maybethistime15
@Maybethistime15 5 жыл бұрын
same. and i think 2 was skipped over cos it was so weird theres literally nothing to say about it, even 3 pretended like it didn't happen lol
@zaujimaveinformacie4008
@zaujimaveinformacie4008 5 жыл бұрын
why do people hate cars 2 I love it I liked the spy movie it was awesome and the 1st is good for me and cars 3 was super good
@-spinel-7257
@-spinel-7257 5 жыл бұрын
16:18 The purple guy's name is "Art."
@johncorr7154
@johncorr7154 4 жыл бұрын
What makes me remember him is Charlie Day's voice
@dustyrose192
@dustyrose192 3 жыл бұрын
It took a biut of thinking but i can name all of those characters
@samyes1726
@samyes1726 4 жыл бұрын
I really can't get behind this, like of course cars 2, the good dinosaur, and brave sucked, but a lot of his points just show a blatant misunderstanding of storytelling and movies in general. His only criticisms of inside out that he expands upon are that the headquarters are designed in a boring way and that everything is literal, but anyone who watched that movie can tell you that 1) the design of the headquarters hardly matters, 2) the entire movie is stuffed with metaphor on metaphor of so many themes, story details, and representations of human psychology. He also claims that inside out isn't successful because the world design makes it so the audience doesn't know where the characters are so it makes it hard for them to believe the hardship of the journey they've been on but like, that's not true at all. Once again, anyone who watched the movie and actually paid attention can easily tell you that all the locations can be seen and tracked in a way that's easy to follow, but in all honesty that doesn't really matter, because that's not the point of the movie. It's not a literal journey like taking the ring to Mordor, it's a thematic journey to learn about the importance of sadness and negative emotions. His critique of Coco makes even less sense because it's not a critique, he just lays out the story structure in a very literal way without actually explaining why he thinks these things are bad. The only critiques he expands upon in Coco is that the family hating music because they believed Hector walked out on them to pursue a career in music is unbelievable and stupid, which is a subjective take but at least one that makes sense. But he also talks about how it never feels like Miguel was ever in any trouble or learned any lesson but, the movie isn't about Miguel learning a lesson, it's about the importance of familial support and familial relationships, and this lesson is leaned through Miguel's family. I know this sounds like a butt-hurt nostalgia ridden crybaby whining because someone made a video online calling a movie bad but the reason I'm commenting at all is because he never actually explains the problem with most of these movies, and when he does it makes so sense. I actually wanna try and see where he's coming from to test my own vision of how I see these movies but Everytime I think of what he's saying it makes less and less sense each time. If anyone would care to try and explain his points in a different way or maybe more clearly that would be a big help.
@AVdE10000
@AVdE10000 3 жыл бұрын
Nah, I'm 100% with you. I actually agree with quite a lot in this video, but his critique on Inside Out and especially Coco don't make any sense. He's basically saying that Coco is bad because it's the same story as Ratatouille but without any subplots and more lollygagging (what?), and he fails to address any issues in the older Pixar films. While they're all still amazing, they aren't all flawless. Espacially Up, in which he acknowledges the amazing opening but conveniently ignores the rest of the film, which actually is just a bunch of lollygagging and wacky hijinks. Even though he brings up valid points, it really comes off as just "hurr, everything was better back in my day".
@isabellatoose3839
@isabellatoose3839 3 жыл бұрын
yeah idk about yall, but coco is so so much better than a bugs life. i cannot tell you half the story of a bugs life because there's too much going on. Coco is so much more than he portrayed it as
@sketchyjulia
@sketchyjulia 3 жыл бұрын
@@AVdE10000 Coco isn’t even super similar to ratatouille, other than it deals with the main characters families disapproving of their passions. But Remy’s father disapproved of it because they were RATS in human society, the concept of a rat being a chef does admittedly sound ridiculous after all. Miguel’s family disapproved of music due to Hector leaving Imelda and Coco to be a musician, and Imelda’s hatred was passed down through the following three generations of her family.
@samyes1726
@samyes1726 3 жыл бұрын
@cat snake ok how
@kaitero6297
@kaitero6297 5 жыл бұрын
“I don’t judge a book by i’s cover” “The Incredibles 2 looks mediocre” ok?
@friendbreakfast
@friendbreakfast 5 жыл бұрын
Well, to be fair he doesn't say The Incredibles 2 looks mediocre, rather that he *knows that it is going to be a passive uninteresting experience which achieves nothing new* Wait was I trying to defend him? Huh. I guess not.
@kaitero6297
@kaitero6297 5 жыл бұрын
Hitsu he *knows*
@Reckno64
@Reckno64 5 жыл бұрын
It was ok. Nowhere near as bad as people have made it out to be......
@PeruvianPotato
@PeruvianPotato 5 жыл бұрын
One of the disappointing sequels ever
@Reckno64
@Reckno64 5 жыл бұрын
Ikr. Secret Life of Pets 2 was a better sequel.
@joshl4225
@joshl4225 5 жыл бұрын
Coco has an incredibly different message than what you think. Miguel, in the end, is willing to give up his dream for his family. He goes through the character arc where he sees family as more important. He does get to play music but that is only because Imelda has a character arc where she accepts that music should be allowed in the family. Not only this, but when you say Miguel has no personality, I completely disagree. He is one of the Pixar characters that I’ll remember and he is absolutely hilarious.
@PassiveSmoking
@PassiveSmoking 5 жыл бұрын
In other words, the moral is "Let your family crush all the soul and spirit out of you"? That's a pretty shitty moral.
@joshl4225
@joshl4225 5 жыл бұрын
Not really. Miguel learns a lesson that family is important and although he valued it before, after his journey he learns to value it even more. His family don't 'crush all the soul and spirit out of him,' he just learns their reasons for why they hate music (granted it is a pretty stupid reason)and learns to accept that family comes first sometimes.
@billytheconqueror5803
@billytheconqueror5803 5 жыл бұрын
@@PassiveSmoking it's traditionalism. Family is important
@Antiformed
@Antiformed 5 жыл бұрын
So basically it's Tangled painted over with Mexican culture.
@joshl4225
@joshl4225 5 жыл бұрын
I mean, Tangled wasn't really about learning to value family. The person who Rapunzel thought was her mother actually kidnapped her as a child. I guess you could argue that Rapunzel learns to value Flynn but I don't see how that relates to learning that family is important. Also it's not 'painted over with Mexican culture.' The day of the dead makes the perfect setting for a film about learning the importance of family because the whole point of the 'ofrenda's' (the family trees) are about remembering family and what they did to get you into the position you are now. Excuse me if I'm wrong but, I'm not sure anything like the 'ofrenda' happens in other cultures.
@nahmaing8268
@nahmaing8268 5 жыл бұрын
I always was upset about "how did they hang up the pictures" ever since I first saw cars. That whole world doesnt make sense.
@chupacadabra5161
@chupacadabra5161 3 жыл бұрын
The forklifts of the Cars universe are slaves. That's how.
@hanr151
@hanr151 4 жыл бұрын
Pretty spot on, the Coco part I mostly don’t agree with but I understand what you mean. Good shit
@nascour5991
@nascour5991 2 жыл бұрын
He just hates coco and is trying to paint it like some big brain Iq take when it's not that deep
@pauljames1807
@pauljames1807 5 жыл бұрын
I think that generally, the quality of Pixar's work has decreased but I certainly don't think that's the case for Coco and Inside Out. If you applied the same level of overly critical analysis to Pixar's previous work, you would be able to find just as many flaws that we now overlook. Both of those movies are as competent as any example of Pixar's previous work that you hold in such high regard. I think that nostalgia has made you incredibly bias.
@NitroIndigo
@NitroIndigo 5 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see people criticise early Pixar, since popular opinion seems to be "a lineup of sacred cows and Cars, and also A Bug's Life exists, I guess." I find genuine, analytical criticism entertaining, regardless of my opinion of the thing being criticised. The problem with "state of Pixar" video essays is that they all hit the same beats: "Pixar used to make great movies, Cars is a thing that exists, they made more great movies, then Cars 2 came along and ruined everything." I won't argue that Cars 2 isn't a bad movie, even if it is a guilty pleasure of mine and my reasons for disliking the film are slightly different to everyone else's, but once you've seen one video essay, you've seen them all.
@Antiformed
@Antiformed 5 жыл бұрын
People seem very protective of Inside Out because it gave them 'all the feels', but he is right, it ain't that deep really.
@alexanderdushkuii7697
@alexanderdushkuii7697 5 жыл бұрын
I just found Coco to be so boring. The plot was extremely predictable with a story we've seen a dozen times before. I couldn't fathom the family's motivations either. It would have been much more interesting if the family had actually had some real objection to Coco's dream. There could have been real tension between Coco's desires and his family's traditions and values. As it was written the family is just obviously wrong in a way no family ever would be and you're just waiting the whole film for their minds to change. It's manufactured drama that's too artifical to mirror anyone's real experiences.
@NitroIndigo
@NitroIndigo 5 жыл бұрын
His name is Miguel.
@NitroIndigo
@NitroIndigo 5 жыл бұрын
Smorgas Bord That was uncalled for.
@timothymclean
@timothymclean 5 жыл бұрын
With all you criticize Disney for not giving Pixar the production freedom they needed to create some of their later great films, it's probably worth emphasizing that Toy Story as we know it would not exist without two rounds of Disney-mandated rewrites. (And from what I've seen, the first drafts wouldn't be that great.)
@L3go_Man87
@L3go_Man87 5 жыл бұрын
Timothy McLean Despite what I said earlier, yes I completely agree with you especially how woody was going to be evil as hell 😱😬
@TheOminousFlareShow
@TheOminousFlareShow 5 жыл бұрын
It's also probably worth considering that those mandated rewrites wouldn't be needed if Disney didn't hound the Pixar team with their footnotes on what they want to change and how they wanted the movie to be (edgier and darker) in the first place.
@LordofFullmetal
@LordofFullmetal 5 жыл бұрын
You realise those first drafts ALSO only came about because Disney kept saying "make it darker, make it edgy", right? They were fixing their OWN mistake, not Pixar's.
@KnuckleHunkybuck
@KnuckleHunkybuck 5 жыл бұрын
Assuming that Toy Story as we know it is actually the best possible Toy Story...
@RM-cn8pw
@RM-cn8pw 5 жыл бұрын
Timothy McLean Disney DOES give Pixar production freedom, though.
@ferhatplus5186
@ferhatplus5186 3 жыл бұрын
And he just didn't even talk about wall-e but stopped to say monsters inc. was a masterpiece, just like that
@Jackrabbit7
@Jackrabbit7 3 жыл бұрын
Ferat Bot What’s the problem with that, we all know WALL-E is a masterpiece, and Monsters Inc definitely deserves to be called a masterpiece
@paperchasindude6578
@paperchasindude6578 3 жыл бұрын
@@Jackrabbit7 fax
@cholanraje1410
@cholanraje1410 3 жыл бұрын
WALL-E is the definition of overrated. It's experimental beginning deteriorates into a formulaic ending, like Up.
@juanstrong3695
@juanstrong3695 3 жыл бұрын
@@cholanraje1410 So basically, if a lot of people like something more than you do, it's "overrated" and shouldn't looked upon as highly? The term "overrated" is overused as hell. Sure movies have their flaws, but not everything is objectively flawed. I'm sure people have their reasons for liking Wall E better than Up, just like I'm sure you have reasons for liking some Pixar movies more than others (which I bet people could easily disagree with).
@perrilewis180
@perrilewis180 4 жыл бұрын
So the copy pasting of ants is impressive compared to Coco a love letter to the day of the dead and Mexican culture. Inside Out makes sense when you understand that every character has the mental age of a child who has very simple emotions. Also it showed the importance of sadness. Joy wouldn't let Riely be sad which almost caused bad mental damage.
@AlanGohel
@AlanGohel 5 жыл бұрын
It’s worth noting that at the core of every Pixar movie is an essential question that informs the entire movie. Toy Story- What if Toys had feelings? A Bug’s Life- What if Insects had feelings? Toy Story 2- What if more Toys had more feelings? Finding Nemo- What if Fish had feelings? Monsters Inc.- What if Monsters had feelings? The Incredibles- What if Superheroes had feelings? Cars- What if Cars had feelings? Ratatouille- What if Rodents had feelings? WALL-E- What if Robots had feelings? Up- Why tf am I crying? Toy Story 3- Why do I dread existence? Cars 2-uh Brave- What if The Scottish (not Irish ffs) had feelings? Monsters University- What if students had feelings? Inside Out- What if Feelings had feelings? The Good Dinosaur- What if Dinosaurs had feelings? Finding Dory- What if a Pixar movie received critical acclaim but sucked? Cars 3- What if a Pixar movie was good but critics didn’t dig it? Coco- What if Mexicans had feelings? Incredibles 2- what?
@sgtfrozty
@sgtfrozty 5 жыл бұрын
Alan Gohel Big Hero Six isn't a Pixar film.
@lorenzogarcia4335
@lorenzogarcia4335 5 жыл бұрын
Up-what if old people had feelings?
@AlanGohel
@AlanGohel 5 жыл бұрын
sgtfrozty shut
@AlanGohel
@AlanGohel 5 жыл бұрын
Mando Garcia I think that one would also be, “Why tf am I crying?”
@lorenzogarcia4335
@lorenzogarcia4335 5 жыл бұрын
Alan Gohel definitely
@mmaaaaaxxx
@mmaaaaaxxx 5 жыл бұрын
This video started good but it began to feel quite biased near the end tbh
@yarpen26
@yarpen26 5 жыл бұрын
Inside Out and Coco might not be everybody's cup of tea and most wouldn't perhaps rank them as Pixar's best but that hardly started in 2010. Up is mostly remembered for the first ten minutes, the rest of the movie being surprisingly lackluster and dull. Ratatouille is cool but nothing groundbreaking. So, Pixar isn't dead or dying but they really should steer off sequels. They suck at them, Toy Story being the one exception.
@gkay8889
@gkay8889 5 жыл бұрын
yarpen26 incredibles 2 was possibly better than the original...
@yarpen26
@yarpen26 5 жыл бұрын
geo k. You're still on board the hype train (choo-choo!), son. By the time of the Blu-ray release you will be PM-ing me about how stupid you were to think Incredibles 2 was superior to the original and how I was totally right from the start.
@gkay8889
@gkay8889 5 жыл бұрын
yarpen26 the only thing that the original has better is the villain and the fact that everyone had an arc whereas in the incredibles 2 the arc was only on bob helen and almost violet..WHICH IS COMPLETELY FINE...The sequel is superior to the original in EVERY OTHER ASPECT..Yes..even the soundtrack
@yarpen26
@yarpen26 5 жыл бұрын
Okay. So tell me now... which scene in Incredibles 2 caused you to fell more intense emotions than the buddy spiked scene?
@wolpifox
@wolpifox 4 жыл бұрын
Haven’t seen Coco yet but I gotta say I saw inside out in the cinema and while it got me emotional at the time, looking back at it - I never had the urge to see it again. And I think that makes a big difference. Kudos to everyone who can enjoy Inside out. I just never got invested in the characters.
@IceFire9yt
@IceFire9yt 5 жыл бұрын
Amazing how well the CGI holds up in the original Toy Story.
@ashensage6034
@ashensage6034 3 жыл бұрын
Not on the humans or that dog tho. Rewatched it a year or so ago and that dog was so terrible hha (Sid's pitbull I'm talking about).
@DerpyDuckAnimation
@DerpyDuckAnimation 3 жыл бұрын
Nah it looks like shit, compare it to the fourth film’s animation
@AVdE10000
@AVdE10000 3 жыл бұрын
I remember a scene in that movie where they argue underneath a truck where a huge chunk of that truck is just a poorly textured unrendered flat rectangle. So no, we've definitely come a loooong way
@Jackrabbit7
@Jackrabbit7 3 жыл бұрын
Derpy Duck Animation The Toys and stuff still look amazing
@Jackrabbit7
@Jackrabbit7 3 жыл бұрын
@Brendan Fitzpatrick No it doesn’t, the toys moving around and the settings still look amazing, doesn’t look bad
@theoptimisticmetalhead7787
@theoptimisticmetalhead7787 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, what everyone else is saying. Spot on analysis until you get to Inside Out and Coco. I've never seen a film so simply and yet completely portray a visual understanding of depression as Inside Out, which I have dealt with most of my life. That movie had me bawling from epiphanies and self-analysis. And Coco had me crying too, and I'm not Mexican. I only mention that to highlight that I definitely don't identify with the themes of family (which many Mexican commenters have pointed out is a fundamental misunderstanding in your analysis). Most of my family kiiiinda sucks and I'm pretty happy that they're not really in my life anymore. But damned if I didn't identify with the themes of finding a way to express yourself in a world that won't let you. I know you kinda just have to take my word for it on this, but I do not cry at movies easily. It takes a lot. Mostly it takes careful and nuanced writing, and thorough and consistent world building. Honestly, Inside Out and Coco kick the shit out of a couple of the first 10. Now a lot of that comes down to opinion. But one thing seems to be consistent among your commenters, and I agree with it, is this; Those two aren't as good as A Bug's Life? Are you fucking high? (on a lighter note, I like most of your videos a great deal, including this one, right up until that bad and nit pickin ass ending......ohhhhhhhh...)
@ranjanajaiswal5982
@ranjanajaiswal5982 5 жыл бұрын
I've never related to a comment more. Inside Out was the best Pixar movie. Yes kid's would sure have fun, but adults would get the emotional part and still enjoy.
@flowersoul6894
@flowersoul6894 5 жыл бұрын
I just wanted to say that I'm sorry for your depression and your family situation... I hope you can solve both! 💖 As for the latter, however, Coco also shows how the family is the most important thing, as it's necessary to understand and forgive, because anyone can make mistakes, but a second chance isn't denied to anyone... obviously I don't allow myself to to judge, because I don't know you, I don't know your story, I don't know if you and/or other members of your family have tried to be reunited, but I can tell you that, in the end, what you have left is affection and love of the people you care about most, and maybe now you say you are glad you don't have your family around anymore, but maybe one day, you will change your mind... for this I would advise you to try talking to us, to clarify, pulling everything out with tranquility, maybe even trying to make them understand how important the family is, I would even recommend seeing this movie (never that it could help them, never hurts to try)... obviously mine is just a suggestion (if I can, I try to help anyone the most possible), which you can clearly follow or not, because in any case the choice is yours and I'm nobody to you 😉👍 I add that what you told me struck me a lot, also because I'm very sensitive when it comes to certain topics, like this one, for example, and I can tell you that living with certain weights in, in the long run, instead of making you grow, they destroy you (personal experiences) 💔 Then I repeat: The choice is yours and yours alone, of course 😊💜
@cjcathead2468
@cjcathead2468 5 жыл бұрын
Other than you having depression and identifying it in the character, I'm not sure where depression actually is in the movie. I thought the main character was just dealing with her emotions going out of wack and wasn't sure how to deal with it. The whole movie seemed to be about remembering her past and becoming sad that she no longer has that. (I feel like I'm not explaining myself well)
@flowersoul6894
@flowersoul6894 5 жыл бұрын
@@cjcathead2468 Honestly, I think this theme is present, but it's not really thorough (the scene that makes me understand this, for me, is when Riley, towards the end of the movie, can't feel emotions anymore)... maybe I'm wrong eh, but it gives me this feeling 🤔
@bluejay4214
@bluejay4214 5 жыл бұрын
I'm Mexican and I am here to say. Coco sucked, don't praise it just cause it ripped off the book of life. And inside out? It's bland. Besides the literal colors thrown at my face the whole movie feels empty.
@gustaffovershield5428
@gustaffovershield5428 5 жыл бұрын
22:50 there is visualization to show that Miguel’s other family members aren’t as passionately against music as Miguel’s grandmother is; when she smashes his guitar, Miguel’s dad reacts in a subtle way that definitely suggests that was overkill. I actually found there was a lot of nuance in all of the character’s traits that the film manages to display in some way, if you pay attention.
@commercialchase8442
@commercialchase8442 4 жыл бұрын
*Okay, one thing* Inside Out is a movie with a very abstract concept that can be twisted around in several creative directions. The movie does tell you "Oh, this is long term memory" a lot, but... Tell me, honest to god, if you would know if that was long term memory, or the subconscious, without them telling you? See what I'm saying?
@isaywhateveriwantandyougot7421
@isaywhateveriwantandyougot7421 4 жыл бұрын
tell don't show! that's the biggest problem with the movie
@danieldavid3766
@danieldavid3766 4 жыл бұрын
@@isaywhateveriwantandyougot7421 Yes because if I saw a forest of broccoli, I totally would have immediately associated it with the subconscious without any hints towards that fact.
@hi-rw4nl
@hi-rw4nl 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly I feel like the hate inside outs gets is that its main character is a preteen girl and the movie really relates to that demographic. Yes its heav handed but it needs to be because its biggest audience is kids. Also why does no one point out that it has themes about depression and growing up?
@isaywhateveriwantandyougot7421
@isaywhateveriwantandyougot7421 3 жыл бұрын
The beauty of animation is that you can show anything in the way you like and tell its story with it, you can just say "oh, how would that have worked otherwise?" because you didn't make the film and saw it the way it was on its release but there is always a better way than simple exposition
@hamzaal-khairulla3182
@hamzaal-khairulla3182 3 жыл бұрын
Or take in consideration "Up" you can tell that they are in a Chapel or a hospital or a hill cause u know that it is a hospital etc. In Inside Out youve never actually seen where ur deep fears are or where ur memories are stored of course they have to explain and families with kids are gonna see it. If they do the show don't tell method in Inside Out specifically children might have difficulty understanding the movie.
@kassyyar97
@kassyyar97 3 жыл бұрын
Have to disagree with you on Coco, the world inside the movie is deeply inspired by Mexico (I am mexican) and our culture, its not just THERE because it can. Long explanation on mexican culture ahead: The place where Miguel and their family live is inspired by the town Mitla, Oaxaca, where zapotecans believed it was the land of the dead, there even is a temple in honor of the god of death in there. Ernesto lives in a palace, similar to Palacio de Bellas artes in Mexico city, rich in color and full of detailed symbols. The world of the dead is inspired by Guanajuato and its endless, spiraling streets. A city rich in color and artistry. Connected to the living world by a path of flowers petals (Xempasuchil) which are used in the day of the dead to guide spirits back home. The world of the dead exists since centuries ago, the mayans believe that cenotes (the place where Miguel is thrown into) is the path to the death realm. Where does Miguel and Hector get thrown into? a Cenote, and their family alebrije saves them! That alebrije has the main shape of a Jaguar. Jaguars were believed to be the only ones able to pass to the living and death world freely, thanks to the mayan god Balam, which is a JAGUAR. But I guess this all is just "another pretty place to run in." Mexico is infinitely rich in culture and it always angers me that people just see my country at face value and believe the only cute place to go to is Cancun. I will always be grateful towards Lee Unkrich and the team dedicated into the movie for portraying my country so beautifully.
@Gabi-yc1gf
@Gabi-yc1gf 3 жыл бұрын
Well said!!!
@TheRibottoStudios
@TheRibottoStudios 5 жыл бұрын
"Doesn't explore the idea of loss." The movie has several scenes of this or were you just not paying attention?
@RM-cn8pw
@RM-cn8pw 5 жыл бұрын
I don’t think he actually watched the movie
@ccutehoney
@ccutehoney 5 жыл бұрын
Plus his lack of cultural understanding does not help his terribly laid out analysis. It’s like he reviews a film without any cultural research.
@zoazede2098
@zoazede2098 5 жыл бұрын
But is a weak movie...and kinda boring
@RM-cn8pw
@RM-cn8pw 5 жыл бұрын
Eugenia Verónica Bonsembiante It’s neither though.
@alpacawithouthat987
@alpacawithouthat987 5 жыл бұрын
Ana Moran So he’s basically CinemasSims because he thinks he’s being smart but he’s really not
@TheTonyMcD
@TheTonyMcD 5 жыл бұрын
I've always hated Monsters Inc. Not because it's a bad movie, it's a fucking fantastic movie! But fucking Mike Wazowski. This guy led me to the revelation that I basically can't see green. When leaving the movie my family was talking about it, and everybody kept saying the green guy, the short round green guy. I had no idea what the fuck they were all talking about. When I finally realized what character, I was in disbelief that they all thought he was fucking green. He is not even the lightest bit green, or at least what I recognize to be green. So ya, did a test afterwards and found that I can barely see any green. I have a very small amount of green detection, but apparently not much.
@sheevpalps3846
@sheevpalps3846 5 жыл бұрын
Aw man I’m sorry😂
@alanmooreisrasputinreincar8106
@alanmooreisrasputinreincar8106 5 жыл бұрын
What colour was he then for You? Black and white?
@filipemoreira67
@filipemoreira67 5 жыл бұрын
Carroscrianca
@TheTonyMcD
@TheTonyMcD 5 жыл бұрын
grim the reaper, did you even read my post? Why would I see him in black and white if I only have trouble seeing green? That condition would be called Achromatopsia, and it is extremely rare. It really isn't even known if they see truly in black and white. The way the eye works, it would make more sense if they can see only different shades of either red, green, or blue. To see in genuine black and white would likely be caused by a neurological issue rather than a physical problem with the eye. My condition is deuteranomaly, an inability (or reduced sensitivity) to see green light. I can still detect green a little bit. So only very strong greens I can see as a distinct color. It is fairly hard to describe this accurately. I see color the way I've always seen it. The only reason I know that I can't see green very well is because that's what the eye doctor told me. But anyways, to answer your question, I recognize Mike as yellow. I've been told he is actually a yellow-green color. I do not see even the slightest hint of green in him, not at all.
@oldsins3797
@oldsins3797 5 жыл бұрын
Wtf does grass and trees look like to you, homie?
@jonathanhighsmith9289
@jonathanhighsmith9289 5 жыл бұрын
Couldn't help but hear all the great hip hop beats in the background
@igeneric1792
@igeneric1792 5 жыл бұрын
I see what he did. Dory has bad memory, and he has the instrumentals to Forgot About Dre while talking about finding Dory.
@ShonnysLab1995
@ShonnysLab1995 5 жыл бұрын
Pixar= one of the greatest things childhood brought me. Much respect 💪🏾
@mralabbad7
@mralabbad7 5 жыл бұрын
I feel like nostalgia is giving you a little biased look onto the subject
@arandombard1197
@arandombard1197 5 жыл бұрын
But the newer ones do suck. A studio going from producing original films to producing mostly sequels suggests a lack of ideas.
@viciousclam2417
@viciousclam2417 5 жыл бұрын
Random Ashe idk this whole video seemed really nit picky, and I guess I shouldn’t be surprised but I thought the name was ironic or sarcastic or something. I get the feel that he fixates on all the negatives in these movies, which are legitimate and well argued, but it makes his argument come across as a snap judgement he made early on and then proceeded to cherry-pick evidence to support his opinion.
@mralabbad7
@mralabbad7 5 жыл бұрын
@@arandombard1197 sure but before they didn't have any movies to make sequals for So the only option was to make original ones😂😂😂
@arandombard1197
@arandombard1197 5 жыл бұрын
Well ultimately thats how all reviews work. There is no such thing as an objective review and if a critic ever suggests that they are being objective, they're lying. We like or dislike things for various reasons, with better critics being able to rationalize it better. They all felt like legitimate points that I agreed with so I don't think they can really be called cherry-picked.
@mralabbad7
@mralabbad7 5 жыл бұрын
@@arandombard1197 all i'm saying is that their new movies aren't pure garbage as he says (i guess i should say "imo")
@markparkinson6378
@markparkinson6378 5 жыл бұрын
5:45 He meant to say The Good Dinosaur, but the subtitles translated it as Brave. A great subtle joke.
@ShofarOlaguez
@ShofarOlaguez 5 жыл бұрын
Pretty ironic how you are complaining about pixar getting worse over time and the same happened to your video.
@bowieziehm6407
@bowieziehm6407 5 жыл бұрын
jeeeeeeeeeeeeez
@vyeagra2083
@vyeagra2083 5 жыл бұрын
Have some mercy 😂😂😂
@seanstanton9854
@seanstanton9854 4 жыл бұрын
hahahhahaha soo true mate, dead on
@CharleyBoersen
@CharleyBoersen 4 жыл бұрын
He is spot on. If you can not see this, then you are not a movie maker and lacking scriptural structuring. Since Disney bought Pixar in 2011 they started, clearly, shifting towards entertaining over forming new experiences. And that is exactly why NitPix is exactly right. And even though COCO was heavier on the new experience part than any of the new ones, it still does not compare to the little details put in WALL-E for example. What did I learn from Coco compared to WALL-E or any of the movies before? Can not be compared. It is in the details. Trying to break new boundaries and teaching NEW concepts. #buyandlarge
@ShofarOlaguez
@ShofarOlaguez 4 жыл бұрын
@@CharleyBoersen hahahaha "you are not a movie maker" hahahahahhaha you my friend don't undertand this industry clearly
@as7river
@as7river 3 жыл бұрын
"...as good as Shawshank Redemption" Me: there's no such thing. "Monster's Inc." Me: wait
@TheCinemaMonologues
@TheCinemaMonologues 5 жыл бұрын
I think people look at first generation Pixar with rose tinted glasses, mostly because they watched them when they were little little babies. Those movies really weren't as original and as deep as most people seem to remember them. They were decent enough children's animated movies that broke technological ground. They certainly had more charm than what they've been serving up recently but I guarantee a 6-7 y o child today will grow up thinking Coco is a masterpiece and will lament at how Pixar lost its soul when they release Coco 2: Dia of the Mariachi in his mid 20s.
@bazinga743
@bazinga743 5 жыл бұрын
The Cinema Monologues in the first scene of Finding Nemo, a mother and thousands of children die. In the first scene of Finding Dory a “super cute” baby loves it’s parents and then gets lost. There’s a clear drop in quality whether you like it or not.
@reissoliver8853
@reissoliver8853 5 жыл бұрын
Exactly my own thoughts.
@TheCinemaMonologues
@TheCinemaMonologues 5 жыл бұрын
Top 5 Cartoon I don't equate darkness with quality and light heartedness with fluff. I haven't seen Finding Dory but I imagine it's generic and derivative. I have seen Finding Nemo and find it to be generic and derivative. Had I seen it age 10 maybe I wouldn't be so harsh, but having watched it for the first time when I was in my early 20s, it really didn't hold up as anything special. It's basically a story we've seen a million times, with characters and arcs seen a million times. It's also probably a rip off of a French comic book called Pierrot the Clownfish. I don't begrudge anybody for having a special relationship with it, but I also don't begrudge someone that grew up on Coco or Finding Dory for having a special relationship with those movies. Pixar make very well made, entertaining, mass appeal movies. I don't think the new ones are as bad as people make them out to be (I'd put Inside out as arguably their best film) and I don't think the old ones are as amazing as people make them out to be (I do not understand the love for Monsters Inc. for example).
@TheCinemaMonologues
@TheCinemaMonologues 5 жыл бұрын
Claudia Tejero-Rios I grew up with Toy Story but never watched any of the other Pixar films until I was in my 20s. It gave me a strange perspective compared to most people who saw them as kids. As expected I have a real reverence for Toy Story and yet have no love for any of the other Pixar movies of that era. Is Toy Story really heads and shoulders above A Bug's Life or do I just love Toy Story because I watched it a million times on VHS ? I actually find to whole 2007-2010 period to be Pixar's best in terms of Quality, and I would hold Inside Out as one of their finest work even though it's late era Pixar.
@crislehman5606
@crislehman5606 5 жыл бұрын
How many movies have you made? Shut the fuck up.
@amandacaceres8305
@amandacaceres8305 5 жыл бұрын
If I'm being honest, the second part of the video feels pretty snobby and harsh. A Bug's Life ALSO had a pretty overdone plot, in my opinion it's definitely not one of Pixar's best movies. If that movie gets a pass, how come Coco doesn't?
@froakie1404
@froakie1404 5 жыл бұрын
Amanda Caceres imo, A Bug’s Life is one of Pixar’s weakest films
@bekahsue418
@bekahsue418 5 жыл бұрын
and like insulting brave? how dare
@turtleanton6539
@turtleanton6539 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah it sucks! 😁 I thought it was not even a pixar film😆
@turtleanton6539
@turtleanton6539 5 жыл бұрын
Wasnt there a better one called Bugz or something like that
@froakie1404
@froakie1404 5 жыл бұрын
Turtle Anton You mean Antz? I thought it was a better movie then A Bugs Life
@MetaDHedge28
@MetaDHedge28 3 жыл бұрын
"Toy story was the first computer animated film ever made" So we're just going to forget about Veggietales (which was released in 1993 btw)?
@tiablue9106
@tiablue9106 3 жыл бұрын
VeggieTales didn’t get a movie until 2002. It started as a TV series, but it was among the first
@MetaDHedge28
@MetaDHedge28 3 жыл бұрын
Good point my dude
@MrSchiz
@MrSchiz 4 жыл бұрын
I would agree with everything except for the part about Coco and Inside Out, I thought Inside Out was a cinematic masterpiece when it came out, and it still feels like it’s a cinematic masterpiece now
@isaywhateveriwantandyougot7421
@isaywhateveriwantandyougot7421 4 жыл бұрын
Why? Seriously, WHY? Normally I can understand a different opinion but here, I don't get it! Why do people love it so much?
@yousefhussein9061
@yousefhussein9061 3 жыл бұрын
I say whatever I want and you gotta deal with that well like your name applies he can say whatever he wants and you gotta deal with it
@AmanitaJT
@AmanitaJT 3 жыл бұрын
@@isaywhateveriwantandyougot7421 you misspelt "opinion"
@AmanitaJT
@AmanitaJT 3 жыл бұрын
@@isaywhateveriwantandyougot7421 no? excuse me, i think you've read it wrong, i never said "your opinion is trash" or that "you are wrong, this movie is a masterpiece" everyone has the right to disagree with everyone, but you don't have to be a dick about it just cause the person said that "it's a cinematic masterpiece" and you disagreed with it.
@isaywhateveriwantandyougot7421
@isaywhateveriwantandyougot7421 3 жыл бұрын
@@AmanitaJT I just wanted an explanation to his opinion. We're already 10 months later and nobody has been able to answer this simple question
@madman407708
@madman407708 5 жыл бұрын
*SHREK* MY EARS
@thechronologizer4534
@thechronologizer4534 5 жыл бұрын
A+ for enthusiasm
@mustafasalman9478
@mustafasalman9478 3 жыл бұрын
Perpetual Peter ?
@LanaBellaVargas
@LanaBellaVargas 5 жыл бұрын
im only here to keep it real with you chief but the second part of this video really aint it. if bugs life gets a pass but not coco, then its pretty obvious your nostalgia came into play.
@Yipper64
@Yipper64 5 жыл бұрын
which is kinda ironic considering a lot of the video he was actively trying to talk down nostalgia. id say a bugs life was on the level of cars. not to mention how many freaking toys they made of a bugs life. they have a very similar feel.
@samuela5227
@samuela5227 5 жыл бұрын
I would rather watch Bugs Life than Coco
@professorgenki6065
@professorgenki6065 5 жыл бұрын
a bug's life actually achieved something while coco didn't, those 2 are similar but remember they were 20 years apart
@RegsaGC
@RegsaGC 5 жыл бұрын
Aye, the bug movie isn't all that good is it? I never bothered with it so I genuinely don't know
@wreathofpalmaria
@wreathofpalmaria 5 жыл бұрын
The book of Life is a much better film that takes place on the day of the dead, and it has a much better message. Coco is just a rip off of that.
@NorwayChallenge
@NorwayChallenge 4 жыл бұрын
7:15 Little correction, The incredibles was in 2004, Finding Nemo in 2003 and Monsters inc was in 2001.
@butterhindi5568
@butterhindi5568 Жыл бұрын
He’s from the UK
@frenchcoupon3391
@frenchcoupon3391 4 жыл бұрын
To the universal lovers: I hope Coco is as good as people praise it to be. In Inside out not mentioning Bing Bong at the end was a travesty.
@isaywhateveriwantandyougot7421
@isaywhateveriwantandyougot7421 3 жыл бұрын
Why would I care for a character that has practically done nothing in the film other than filling screentime and getting himself into trouble?
@jarronwilliams7227
@jarronwilliams7227 5 жыл бұрын
your analysis of CoCo and Inside Out were very weak. You really had to stretch the idea that Ratatouille was better than CoCo. I think you would have been better off acknowledging that inside out and coco were exceptions but instead you lobbied these really odd and super specific criticisms at these movies, which to different extents could be lobbied at all the pixar movies. It's like you did your best to find reasons for calling the movies bad, rather than genuinely believing them to be uninspired or poorly thought out.
@caldw615
@caldw615 5 жыл бұрын
CoCo is better in certain regards like the actual visuals and improved animation quality, as well as having a unique soundtrack. However in terms of story beats it repeats the same elements of Ratatouille but with far less engaging characters overall, which is primarily what he was focussing on. From a story perspective Ratatouille does what CoCo was trying to tell but better, it doesn't mean it blows CoCo out the water in every aspect of a movie but for narattive Ratatouille holds up a bit better.
@SPO.OKY_
@SPO.OKY_ 5 жыл бұрын
His channel IS called NitPix 🤷‍♂️
@barackobama4100
@barackobama4100 5 жыл бұрын
RATATOUILLE IS BETTER THAN INSIDE OUT COCO YOU LITTLE P P HEAD REMY WOULD KICK JOY THAT KID FROM COCO AND YOUR ASS
@nhlfan1001
@nhlfan1001 5 жыл бұрын
ok i PERSONALLY liked Ratatouille more but like CoCo was amazing
@edef1244
@edef1244 5 жыл бұрын
@@barackobama4100 lmao
@anons_anonymous
@anons_anonymous 5 жыл бұрын
I love how you bashed Coco yet didn't even touch upon how boring and lackluster A Bug's Life was plot-wise. It performed well, and at the time it was technologically mindblowing, as you said, but I bet that if you asked anyone who saw it the names of 4 characters from that film they wouldn't be able to tell you. You really shouldn't be giving free passes to the older movies just because they're from an era of generally good films. A common flaw with cartoon reviewers these days is that they don't take off their nostalgia lenses before reviewing, and you're falling into that exact trap. As someone who's been watching cartoon reviewers for the past eight years, I really hope you consider this feedback, because I do think you have potential to stand out from all the other manchildren on this site.
@winnetouch
@winnetouch 5 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing. Coco is BY MILES better then a Bug's life yet A Bugs life got a free pass. Coco is an amazing movie. But like someone said before me. Any movie's plot will seem dumb or uninteresting if you strip away the context. Miguel's journey is much more important that that of Remi for instance. What does Remi have to loose? The restaurant shuts down, Remi and Linguini move on. Miguel doesn't succeed... The whole family keeps on hating on Hector, he disappears in the afterlife and Miguel is dead. I'd say his journey is far more epic than Remi's. Also the scenery in COCO is amazing I don't care what you say.
@justinstewart9145
@justinstewart9145 5 жыл бұрын
@ Katie G, "but I bet that if you asked anyone who saw it the names of 4 characters from that film they wouldn't be able to tell you." Four characters are Hopper, Dot, Flick, and Thumper (and I was able to tell you that *without* doing any research and having last seen the movie years ago). A Bugs Life may not be the most memorable, but I'd still put it leagues above The Good Dinosaur. A Bug's Life at least has an interesting and menacing villain. Hopper is a bully, but he's not one-dimensional. He loves power and being in control, but he realizes how powerful his enemies truly are, and exercises caution in wanting to keep the ants in line (realizing that an ant had stood up to him *months* ago, wanting to kill the queen to further put the ants in their place, etc). Also, there are plenty of other good cartoon reviewers on this site: hotdiggedydemon, alphajayshow, Rebel Taxi, PieGuyrRulz, Shadow Streak, Animat (who even with some of his flaws he's been learning), etc, all take off their nostalgia goggles and review things fairly. There are plenty of cartoon reviews on this site that aren't "manchildren".
@DBXZ21
@DBXZ21 5 жыл бұрын
@@winnetouch foh a bug's life is a classic. I literally watched this movie 300 times probably more when I was a kid. And if it was playing on TV rn I'd definitely keep it playing as background noise and pay attention at the interesting parts, like when they build the fake bird, or when hopper intimidates and LITERALLY KILLS one of his own gang members by dumping a buttload of nuts on him. Or that crazy finally. I mean just cause you don't like doesn't mean you're right. I will defend a bug's life till the day I fucking die buddy. And yeah I may not be able to name 4 characters of the top of my head, but I can fuck your bitch. Haha remember that vine... good times... good times
@classyassmothafucka8890
@classyassmothafucka8890 5 жыл бұрын
First of all... older movies don't necessarily get free passes... but new mediums really do. There's a lot to dislike about the Wizard of Oz, for instance. A Bug's Life, however, wasn't a boring movie in any way. Sure it's skeleton... the outcast that returns to save the villiage... has a crush on a girl out of his league and gets the girl... makes interesting new fellow outcast friends who help him on his journey, blah blah blah... yeah. It's been done. However, most pop songs use the same 4 chords. It's not really any different. The outcast to hero arc is a VERY popular arc for protagonists. Get over it. The voice acting was tremendous. The world development was an absolute game changer (the technology didn't exist up to then to have real tactile looking objects that are so clear in quality that you can show their function without telling. For instance, the part where water droplets were served at the bar... they didn't have to tell you what it was. They showed you what looked to be a bartender serve it, and it showed the texture and jiggly physics of it, and it showed the insects injesting it. Only somewhat possible in cartoon form. THAT is what the CGI medium was most fascinated with in the old days. Scaling down. Scaling up. Creating world specific technology and appliances, etc... CGI was a way to immerse people into a new world physics without limits, and Bug's life was GREAT at that... as opposed to the heap of garbage nobody seems to remember called "Antz" which was bland, uncanny, and quite frankly a day late and more than a dollar short in terms of execution. So yeah... A Bug's Life... maybe you didn't personally like it... I personally didn't like Space-Balls... but that's simple unappreciation of the merits of the movie. In my case, I'm not a big sci-fi fan... don't like Star Wars... or Trek... so a parody of this genre just doesn't appeal to me, but I can see where it's a good movie. Well, if you don't like traditional hero arc based stories that focus on designing worlds over story... too bad for you. Don't watch Bug's life. But generic story lines are ideal for family movies (because children watch them) Using a generic storyline is only really sinful if you aren't considering the audience, or if the movie purports to be cerebral in nature. Bug's life isn't a cerebral story. It's an immersive adventure story. Get over it.
@winnetouch
@winnetouch 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah but it's a classic in your mind because you watched it 300 times. Some other kid is going to have the same argument about coco in about 20 years. Just because you watched it as a kid doesn't really make it a masterpiece.
@SavannahBurris
@SavannahBurris 4 жыл бұрын
Sure, CoCo may not be a masterpiece on par with Toy Story or Finding Nemo, but it was still genuinely good! 🤔 And it did take risks by having a lot of songs be sung mostly in Spanish and therefore potentially alienating certain audiences.
@nascour5991
@nascour5991 2 жыл бұрын
No it's bad because uh it's plot was similar to another pixar movie or something!!! Reee
@TN1000th
@TN1000th 3 жыл бұрын
I had a college roommate who tried to tell me to my face that The Good Dinosaur was better than The Land Before Time...... I no longer have any contact with him.
@CriminalIntent89
@CriminalIntent89 5 жыл бұрын
you gotta remember that we were children too when the original classic pixar movies came out we just grew up im sure the next generation sees their movies the way we did back then
@C0C0NUTJOE
@C0C0NUTJOE 5 жыл бұрын
You are assuming everyone commenting grew up with the original Pixar films. Not true. I watched Finding Nemo when I was at university and adored it for it's world building, character development and story telling, not to mention it's beautiful moving soundtrack. So watching Finding Dory also as an adult, I can claim I am watching it without a child's nostalgic bias. However, no matter how much I wanted to like Finding Dory, it can't hold a candle to the finesse and care to attention as the original created. So I believe the point holds regardless of the age the person was when they originally watched it.
@doubleoscar773
@doubleoscar773 5 жыл бұрын
25:11 This line right here comes dangerously close to undermining everything you said previously. You can''t just go into each new Pixar movie and look for ways that it fits your narrative or it just looks like confirmation bias
@kostajovanovic3711
@kostajovanovic3711 5 жыл бұрын
And wouldn't you know it, he was right
@scarman1998
@scarman1998 5 жыл бұрын
I actually thought the set design of Monsters University was really well thought out, in fact that is one of the reasons why I think it's in the same league as the standalone films in terms of originality and value. You say the university has no monsterous qualities at all, then show a picture of a building where the arch over the entrance looks like a gaping mouth with sharp teeth, there are spikes on the dome, and statues of monsters at the sides of the stairs. Same with the bus. I think they did a very good job in taking the feel of a prestigous US campus and transplanting that into the monster world. They also put effort into making the set feel like it is 10 years before Monsters Inc, technology, such as the door stations are bulkier and look more primitive. And rejuvenating a character who is essentially an eyeball to different stages is not easy, but they nailed it. I also don't understand why you are dismissing the story like that, I think the main arch was Mike Wasowski learning and accepting that just because you want something a lot and work really hard for it doesn't mean you are meant to have it, which is actually quite the opposite of the message conveyed by most mainstream college films about underdogs like Mike.
@boomballing3598
@boomballing3598 4 жыл бұрын
17:34 "Pixar's first flop ever in history" Cars 2 : Am i a joke to you ?
@gerawallstar3487
@gerawallstar3487 4 жыл бұрын
Cars 2 made decent money at the box office. Its more of a critical failure. PIXAR'S first critical failure.
@CaroWinchester
@CaroWinchester 5 жыл бұрын
Talk about missing the point with Coco... anything can be simplistic and dumb if you strip away it's context. But Coco is a fantastic movie and deserves all the praise it's gotten, at the end of the day it is a wonderful depiction of a Mexican family and the traditions we have in our country... also bonus points, the movie is even better in Spanish, having so many inside jokes for Mexicans that it's not easily translatable to english, shows to you the care they had making this for it's target audience (Mexicans). This movie became the biggest movie in México in 2017, everybody went to see it more then once when it was in theaters, even some people that don't go to the movies a lot went to see this movie, and when a movie like that can impact a country, I can only say that this will be another PIXAR classic.
@hourzerox
@hourzerox 5 жыл бұрын
+1stNovaTitan - Yes, how dare people talk about how a movie made for their country was good and depicts their culture accurately!
@olavu11
@olavu11 5 жыл бұрын
It may have been a good cultural film, but was it as good as other Pixar films in previous years? Was it as good as Finding Nemo? No. Was it as good as Toy Story? No. It wasn't even on a Monsters Inc. level. Pixar did with Coco what every Disney has been doing for the last 20 years and that is pushing out a plethora of foreign related films. Not to say there is anything wrong with that, but it seems forced. It only makes it relatable to people that are familiar with that culture. Instead of shoving it down your throat and saying this is what we do here in Mexico, I want to see some depth. Engage me. I want to see how does Mexico fit into the Pixar universe, not the other way around. I didn't feel that with Coco. On top of that, the storyline became pretty predictable and cliche after 30 minutes.
@YongyoonKim
@YongyoonKim 5 жыл бұрын
Zefortuner Indeed. How dare they?
@diegocamacho6477
@diegocamacho6477 5 жыл бұрын
Eh, el Libro de La Vida lo hizo mejor.
@isabelladuran3566
@isabelladuran3566 5 жыл бұрын
1stNovaTitan ...it does dia de los muertos plenty of justice??lmaoo
@LittleMissLounge
@LittleMissLounge 5 жыл бұрын
You touch on it at the end, but why didn't you wait until you saw The Incredibles 2 to do this video? No judgment, I just find that to be an interesting choice.
@LuisGustavoSodre13
@LuisGustavoSodre13 5 жыл бұрын
nothing would change, Incredibles 2 it's just terrible, more than I could think of
@LeopoldLitchenstein
@LeopoldLitchenstein 5 жыл бұрын
No idea, because Incredibles 2, to me, felt like an adult movie written for kids. It's not as good as the first one and the callbacks can ruin it but I consider it less of a sequel and more of a continuation of the story.
@paulheap1982
@paulheap1982 5 жыл бұрын
Luis Gustavo Sodre which is blatant bullshit.
@BobChillison
@BobChillison 5 жыл бұрын
Incredibles 2 plain sucked End of
@998clan
@998clan 5 жыл бұрын
I liked I2 personally
@hugoj1129
@hugoj1129 4 жыл бұрын
I have to comment about the beats in the background, perfect choice and all from insanely great songs
@garythehippopotamus9536
@garythehippopotamus9536 4 жыл бұрын
Nitpix: *Trashes on Toy Story 3* Me: So you have chosen... death
@seacatdefunky
@seacatdefunky 4 жыл бұрын
ok
@Jackrabbit7
@Jackrabbit7 4 жыл бұрын
Gary The Hippopotamus Toy Story 4 ruined the ending
@IcyDiamond
@IcyDiamond 3 жыл бұрын
It’s the best Toy Story film for sure
@Jackrabbit7
@Jackrabbit7 3 жыл бұрын
The Fat Piranha Plant No the best is either 1 or 2
@IcyDiamond
@IcyDiamond 3 жыл бұрын
Zombie Slaya I gotta disagree with you there but I’ll let you have your opinion
@MrTheharryson
@MrTheharryson 5 жыл бұрын
I’m gonna be honest, I actually really loved Inside Out. I get that you didn’t enjoy it as much or believe that it didn’t really live up to Pixar’s “glory days,” but I believe it revived Pixar. I brought my little sister to this movie and I have to admit, it hit me hard. I felt like a kid again watching Incredibles, Finding Nemo, Toy Story, and etc. I’d probably even put it in my top 5 Pixar movies, which is saying a lot. Though your points are valid about the story telling and the story arc, I believe this was necessary. They were not only telling the story of Joy and Sadness, but of Riley as well. Fitting in two different stories that work with one another is a very hard thing to accomplish, which Pixar did (ofc they did, they’re Pixar). I genuinely felt a connection with Riley and the characters and left the theater very satisfied, which had not happened in a very long time.
@BROJANGSTER
@BROJANGSTER 5 жыл бұрын
MrTheharryson it’s ok to say you loved Inside Out. Snooty film critiques like NitPix are just really critical buttholes that, well, nitpick things and judge movies based on small, minute details.
@jikkebouma5512
@jikkebouma5512 5 жыл бұрын
I loved inside out, just hated Joy. She was so annoying.
@Mr.Monacle
@Mr.Monacle 5 жыл бұрын
@@jikkebouma5512 One could make the argument that that was the point. Joy being the way she is is supposed to show us that Riley is actively suppressing her other emotions, as a result Joy comes off as being a micromanaging, manipulative bitch.
@WyattoonsComics
@WyattoonsComics 5 жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t say they’re dying, but they’re definitely going through some growing pains. Especially with the higher ups shifting around in the fallout of the Lasseter scandal. Inside Out and Coco show they definitely still have that spark. Maybe this is what they needed to shake things up?
@zachanikwano
@zachanikwano 5 жыл бұрын
Wyatt The Nerd Scandal?
@WyattoonsComics
@WyattoonsComics 5 жыл бұрын
zachanikwano There were a lot of sexual harassment allegations and he will be leaving at the end of the year. Pete Docter will be taking over as the chief creative officer when Lasseter leaves. Check Google News and you’ll find several articles about the allegations cause damn there are a lot of them.
@someonerandom8552
@someonerandom8552 5 жыл бұрын
Wyatt The Nerd Sweet merciful crap! If these scandals keep going we'll have no one left in the entertainment industry. (Not that I'm dismissing the allegations of course.) But it's become almost like a game to guess who's going to fall next.
@hoppa_2184
@hoppa_2184 Жыл бұрын
@@someonerandom8552 There are allegations, but seriously, they are ridiculous from what I have heard. Lasseter is a hugger. And you can dislike huggers, but throwing him out of the company he created for it...Pixar deserves to go bankrupt. I wouldn't be surprised if some jealous people did sling those accusations around out of jealousy. Lasseter for one took some of his people with him and is still doing movies and will release one soonish from what I have heard. There is even a trailer out.
@XatD26
@XatD26 3 жыл бұрын
Why does everyone hate Cars :( It was my childhood with Toy Story.
@user-sp2jg9rx8r
@user-sp2jg9rx8r 3 жыл бұрын
I don't know. He seems to like being biased.
@Jackrabbit7
@Jackrabbit7 3 жыл бұрын
Nobody hates Cars, it’s just a lot worse then the Pixar films that came before it
@Jackrabbit7
@Jackrabbit7 3 жыл бұрын
Jaden He’s not biased
@blaze6477
@blaze6477 3 жыл бұрын
@@Jackrabbit7 I know he doesn't even look biased.
@kittvskarrkr6074
@kittvskarrkr6074 3 жыл бұрын
I know right?
@MitchCyan
@MitchCyan 5 жыл бұрын
If it wasn’t for the scene by the lake, Monsters University would have no value to me. The Good Dinosaur and Finding Dory feel so bland to me that I haven’t seen them more than once.
@oliveranderson928
@oliveranderson928 5 жыл бұрын
Mmmm...Idk, some of these points seemed like double standards. For example, you complain about Inside Out not having a rich enough world, but then you complain about Coco not being as good as Ratatouille despite it having much more distinct visual storytelling. It also takes a much different look at the concept since the family does actually have an understandable reason for their resentment toward the main character's passion, while Remy's family is boring and forgettable. The villain in Ratatouille is also trash, while the villain in Coco is genuinely surprising and threatening. You can make any film sound better or worse if you focus on very specific elements, but to someone who's seen all these movies, you sound biased. It seems like you like older Pixar because that's what you grew up with and you just don't like Coco and Inside Out as much because they're newer. You really think Toy Story is a far more mature story than either of those? It's a fantastic movie, don't get me wrong, but calling Coco and Inside Out "baby movies" in comparison to Toy Story of all things. Also, you didn't have any criticism for A Bug's Life? Really? What deep nuances did you see in that film that made it a classic that's far more memorable than anything from new Pixar? I mean, it's fine if you like it, but that film is very forgettable. Let's be honest, people don't talk about that movie like they do Toy Story or Finding Nemo. There's a reason it's one of the movies that hasn't gotten a sequel. It also seems weird how Disney's meddling was a good thing when it gave us the Toy Story everyone knows and loves, but it's a bad thing once sequels are involved. You're entitled to your opinion, but this script sounds a lot like some old man complaining that "things were better back in my day!" It's like your nostalgia makes you more forgiving of films you grew up with, so you don't criticize A Bug's Life, but now that you're an adult, you can criticize Coco and Inside Out all you want and claim Pixar is dead. I know I'm just repeating myself, but I wanna make sure that I'm being clear. I'm not accusing you of being a nostalgia junkie. I'm just saying that's what this script sounds like. I'd recommend making sure your points are more balanced in the future so you can better argue your case. When your judgment is skewed in favor of one side, those who notice are more likely to dismiss your entire argument.
@sodaandcookies1
@sodaandcookies1 5 жыл бұрын
he didnt like coco cuz there were mexicans in it...lets be real
@fullofmischief2505
@fullofmischief2505 5 жыл бұрын
sodaandcookies1 I don’t think that’s the reason. Why is everything about race? He didn’t like the movie, some people in this world didn’t. I personally really like Coco, it’s beautiful and made me cry multiple times. It has nothing to do with race. I wish people these days didn’t assume that everyone is a mindless bigot.
@sodaandcookies1
@sodaandcookies1 5 жыл бұрын
@@fullofmischief2505 we cant rule it out, so more than likely it is
@fullofmischief2505
@fullofmischief2505 5 жыл бұрын
sodaandcookies1 In some cases we can’t, but in this case it’s obviously not racism. Reading through the comments section some other people seem to think it’s racist as well. If the first thing that comes to your mind is racism when someone doesn’t like an ethnic movie, then that’s on you. Its more telling about you than the person you’re putting that label on. Again, everything in this world is not racist.
@michaelh7992
@michaelh7992 5 жыл бұрын
@@sodaandcookies1 Nah it was just ass
@austintc369
@austintc369 5 жыл бұрын
Praises monsters inc for creative world. Says coco's world is boring and just human world with skeletons. WTF is this biased arguement.
@Jackrabbit7
@Jackrabbit7 3 жыл бұрын
Andrew Cohan No, Monsters Inc is way better then Coco, don’t use bad arguments like that
@quadeong7453
@quadeong7453 3 жыл бұрын
@@Jackrabbit7 I mean he talks about how creative the monster world is but really for most of the movie it takes place in a generic factory setting
@Jackrabbit7
@Jackrabbit7 3 жыл бұрын
@@quadeong7453 The factory is very creative in its design and what goes on in it
@quadeong7453
@quadeong7453 3 жыл бұрын
@@Jackrabbit7 some areas for sure like the scare floor and the secret lab sure. But the rest of it is just regular factory stuff.
@IcyDiamond
@IcyDiamond 3 жыл бұрын
I think both the monster and skeleton world looks great
@jak7590
@jak7590 5 жыл бұрын
Song 1: Still Not A Player By Big Pun (1998) 0:01 Song 2: Story Of Oj By Jay Z (2017) 0:53 Song 3: ? 2:31 Song 4: Fu Gee La By Fugees (1996) 5:38 Song 5: Today Was A Good Day By Ice Cube (1992) 6:34 Song 6: Respiration By Mos Def And Talib Kweli (1998) 7:46 Song 7: I Know What You Want By Busta Rhymes And Mariah Carey (2001) 8:47 Song 8: ? 10:47 Song 9: Classic By Dj Premier, Nas, Rakim, Krs One, And Kanye West (2007) 12:15 Song 10: Forgot About Dre By Dr. Dre And Eminem (1999) 13:37 Song 11: ? 15:49 Song 12: Passin Me By By The Pharcyde (1992) 16:40 Song 13: ? 20:36 Song 14: Keep Ya Head Up By 2pac (1993) 23:06 Song 15: ? 24:09
@cadencaptures
@cadencaptures 5 жыл бұрын
All I have to say is: I loved Inside Out more than almost every previous Pixar movie
@isaywhateveriwantandyougot7421
@isaywhateveriwantandyougot7421 4 жыл бұрын
And I love literally everybody more than people with that opinion
@paxcallow
@paxcallow 5 жыл бұрын
dude i like your channel but this video is a major nostalgia trip and i'm shocked you didn't see this at any point during the writing or editing process.
@GuardiansCreed
@GuardiansCreed 5 жыл бұрын
CARS WAS AWESOME....CARS 2 you could make a case
@maxwelihecker481
@maxwelihecker481 5 жыл бұрын
Exactly, I don't know why the movie gets so much hate. That movie was my childhood man
@cookiezcartoons3587
@cookiezcartoons3587 5 жыл бұрын
@@maxwelihecker481 it's haters are 20 year old toy story worshipping neckbeards who bash on it because "it's for kids" and they blame it because they think it was made to sell toys which is obviously false since is toy story is about freaking toys yet they treat it like god and don't say it's a cash grab
@dadeleemurphy85
@dadeleemurphy85 5 жыл бұрын
@@maxwelihecker481 😂🤣
@Yoseqlo1
@Yoseqlo1 5 жыл бұрын
I think it was okay, but definitely not one of the best Pixar's works. Cars 2, yeah, that's bad. I never got myself to see Cars 3, so I can't say anything about it.
@Bare_en_nar
@Bare_en_nar 5 жыл бұрын
@@Yoseqlo1 I would recomend watching cars 3, it is a great sequal to cars (let's just ignore cars 2), without spoling anything cars 3 deveops well on the story from cars while still keeping the original focus.
@lilybug4854
@lilybug4854 5 жыл бұрын
It kind of hurts to see so much hate going against movies in general. No matter how boring or unoriginal they may seem, movies like these still have so much effort put into them. But even excluding the amount of effort these movies show, they truly can only be appreciated by the people who watch them. By complaining about movies that we, as an audience, haven't seen or are unsure off, we are easily influenced and are purged from their enjoyment and are framed to only see them in a cynical light. I understand where NitPix is coming from, but he is not a licensed movie rating professional. And these are only his strong opinions which are highly focused on his own opinions of the movies. But even though his opinions are not fact, his warped perception of these movies can have a huge impact on his viewers watching this. I just hope this doesn’t restrain people from watching movies NitPix deemed as unoriginal or boring. I believe the audience needs to figure that out for themselves.
@calebdonaldson8770
@calebdonaldson8770 2 жыл бұрын
OMG GUYS, I JUST REALIZED SOMETHING... In all of Pixar's original run, all of their 2000's films, not a SINGLE protagonist is a child. Marlin is not a child. Woody is not a child. Sully is not a child. Mr. Incredible is not a child. Remmy is not a child. McQueen is not a child. Wall-E is not a child. Flik is not a child. And Mr. Fredrickson is certainly not a child! Now, look at their 2010's films: In the following decade, nearly all of the Pixar protagonists are either children or ACT like children. I'm not joking. Arlo is a child. Meredith is a child. Miguel is a child. Joy is a child. Forky is a child. Mator & Dory definitely act like children. Mike & Sully are almost children at this point. Throughout Pixar's 2nd run, Pixar has LITERALLY been kidified! I've been trying to figure this out for years. Why did Pixar's early films feel so different from their modern ones? There has to be hundreds of individual factors, right? But this one is a legitimate, intentional trend that covers the whole spectrum of output! What made Pixar initially so special was that they were able to make films that appealed to children as they watched through the eyes of adult protagonists. For 99% of Disney, Laika, Ghibli, Bluth, etc., their films star much younger characters that the kids can easily relate to. But with Pixar's original run, it required additional contemplation on the audience's part to truly understand the emotional significance of the plot. I can't believe I finally figured this one out!
@thesulk23
@thesulk23 5 жыл бұрын
I agreed with just about 90% of this video, and even as someone that loves Inside Out, I understand the Inside Out criticism but man, you dug way too hard into Coco, and for the first time in one of your videos you were completely hypocritical Nearly all of the issues you pointed out in Coco are present throughout the rest of Pixar’s library (such as Coco retreading a familiar story structure) and the rest were just nitpicking to such an unholy degree it came back around to being genuinely impressive And, as many have pointed out, you failed to bring up the great things that both Inside Out and Coco did, passing over them to further drive in the completely backwards and click-bait-y idea that “pIXaR Is DyINg” I love the first 10 or so Pixar films, but at least I’m able to take off my nostalgia glasses and see that they had flaws just like these new ones do I’ll take a dozen Coco’s and Inside Out’s over another sequel...or the Good Dinosaur You’ve officially lived up to your name, old friend
@ManixDash
@ManixDash 5 жыл бұрын
Ice Age, *_SHREKKKKK_* and Kung Fu Panda
@Whiprealgood
@Whiprealgood 5 жыл бұрын
all great movies! none of them by pixar though
@MellowisDead
@MellowisDead 5 жыл бұрын
Also, almost every Cars character is a real car. Besides McQueen. He is just a highly customized Mustang.
@kittvskarrkr6074
@kittvskarrkr6074 3 жыл бұрын
Corvette
@theharvardyard2356
@theharvardyard2356 4 жыл бұрын
"So, Brad Bird comes out with The Good Dinosaur" I completely lost my shit. Well done.
@spongyoshi
@spongyoshi 5 жыл бұрын
I mostly agree about the sequel shenanigans. Bunch of the rest comes across as nostalgia bias tho. Also, it's near impossible for Pixar now to "stretch the limits of 3D Animation" since this technology has been massively improved in those years. And if you wanna talk about storytelling.. well, Inside Out on itself is such an simple idea that I had no idea they could stretch it out for a full-length movie... but they nailed it and it makes for a very creative & cult movie imo!
@spongyoshi
@spongyoshi 4 жыл бұрын
Well, that's your opinion.
@Evan-nx9ng
@Evan-nx9ng 5 жыл бұрын
NitPix grew up with Pixar
@bumibomber
@bumibomber 5 жыл бұрын
T E L L T H A T T O Z O D S S N A P P E D N E C K E L L T H A T T O Z O D S S N A P P E D N E C K
@JPKgold
@JPKgold 5 жыл бұрын
God can this meme ever stop? It is literally Z-tier.
@Evan-nx9ng
@Evan-nx9ng 5 жыл бұрын
Panteria Tell that to Zod's snapped neck
@JPKgold
@JPKgold 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah yeah sigh
@wanderingoryx3710
@wanderingoryx3710 5 жыл бұрын
And then ToyStory 4 will kill all faith in the franchise.
@cristianplayz9671
@cristianplayz9671 5 жыл бұрын
Marvel has become pixar, the level of consistency in the MCU is astonishing
@hamzaal-khairulla3182
@hamzaal-khairulla3182 3 жыл бұрын
I'm kinda predicting the future but I think the MCU is gonna flop (execution wise) in the next decade cause u can't have success after success there has to be this 3 year failure with one outstanding movie.
@lexingtonbrython1897
@lexingtonbrython1897 3 жыл бұрын
Just 5 seconds of the intro to UP and yep, I still feel it.
@gustaffovershield5428
@gustaffovershield5428 5 жыл бұрын
25:07 - Coco takes a lot of risk; it explores the concept of ‘death,’ and more imperatively, it presupposes a specific type of after-life in a way that I’m surprised the devoutly religious didn’t have an issue with. It also gave a relatively detailed analysis of Mexican culture, in one of the most racially divided times - when someone is willing to jump on you for getting the slightest thing wrong, or making something that could be deemed as a ‘stereotype.’ When I actually think about it, in terms of the films philosophical concepts that it explores, I consider it the riskiest film that they’ve ever made, especially with the ending. It wasn’t a technological risk mind you, and maybe that was your point, but I don’t see why that’s necessary. Also, the film implies everyone will eventually die into nothingness when they are forgotten. The plot then ends up centering around a character not meeting this fate, and they have to ensure that a dementia-stricken, dying grandma doesn’t forget her own father. That’s pretty heavy, if you ask me.
@loopyslop
@loopyslop 5 жыл бұрын
I mean it was a technological risk too, the amount of rendered lights and level of detail put into the background took complete rebuilding of their software, the lighting in the film compared to what our technology was currently able to pull off at the time was something that took a lot of effort to restructure. The difference is Pixar has the money to invest in tech research now compared to when we couldnt fit more than 50 ants in a shot but still it was intentionally pushing new bounds for what can be done in animation. Taking a Digital Lighting for Animation course we talked about what had to be done to get the effect Coco presented and a large amount of the 7 million plus lights placed in each shot of the Underworld scenes were hand placed, all to stay true to the vision of the Mexican graveyards during the day of the dead
@coraedwards
@coraedwards 5 жыл бұрын
I totally agree, I feel he didn't go very deep into Coco's culture and meaning just to prove his point
@PugnaciousProductions
@PugnaciousProductions 5 жыл бұрын
Gustaff Overshield ITS DISNEY
@josie3057
@josie3057 5 жыл бұрын
It’s obvious he doesn’t understand the culture of coco! Perhaps the film was too colorful. Also, he doesn’t understand that the one thing the Latino kids are scared of is their grandma or mom with a sandal.
@feraflauna3238
@feraflauna3238 5 жыл бұрын
+Gustaff Overshield-Coco is simply not a good movie. Most of the Mexican culture stuff is unapologetically and insufferably pandering, the story is overly cliched, the design is lazy and overly childish, and most of the family are rotten and absolutely despicable assholes. Rather than being patient and trying to tell her grandson why she doesn't want him to be a guitar player again. . .the grandma yanks it away from him and proceeds to smash it right in front of him. What the actual fuck? Once the kid goes into the afterlife, everything is basically one giant misunderstanding where if the family just sat down and talked to the kid, explained who his great-great-grandfather actually was, a lot of these situations could've been avoided. And also, the family is so angry with the great-great-grandfather over a mistake he has repeatedly tried to right, that they are perfectly okay with allowing him to completely fade away from all of existence. 0_0. This movie was insufferable. . .up until the second half when. . .something happened. Right after it was established that the spirits can cease to exist entirely if someone forgets them. . .The movie actually got a lot better. The characters were way less pandering cliches and far more fleshed out individuals. And I don't think that was entirely coincidence-this movie had two directors. One of which was Lee Unkrich, and he was the idiot who tried to copyright the title "Day of the Dead,' a traditional Mexican holiday. (Yup, Disney will slap merchandise and property on everything, even an established holiday. . .) The other was Adrian Molina, and since Lee Ukrinch was reported to have stepped down from Coco in order to work further on Toy Story 4. . .it's pretty clear Molina took over the movie in the second half. . .I have never seen a movie where it's pretty clear just where a different director steps in and takes over. . .and actually makes it better. There is definitely a clear point in the movie where it gets significantly better. . . I'm sure people might be confused and insist, "Well Fera. . .you said the movie eventually gets a lot better. Doesn't that mean it was still a good movie in the end?" Well. . .no. I said it got significantly better in the second half. I never said it got great. The second half is only an indicator of what the movie always should've been throughout the ENTIRE thing. Unfortunately, Molina couldn't completely salvage the massive storytelling problems that largely pervaded the first half and were still not entirely fixed after he took over-The great-great grandmother and the grandmother are still assholes and pure scum. And of course, they have an elaborate chase in the afterlife to retrieve the great-great grandfather's picture, only for it turn out. . .Coco had her father's picture the entire time!?!?!? Wow-not only is that cliched, that is just lazy. . . Make no mistake-this movie was intended to be as safe and as pandering as possible. If Unkrich was completely left to his own devices, that's all it would've ever been. I am pleased that it got better in the second half-that is usually not something I ever see where a movie does get significantly better later on-but that still doesn't make it a good movie at the end of the day. It should've been a good movie, deserved to be a great one, and it very nearly succeeded later on-Unfortunately, when a soulless husk of a corporation wants to weasel and pander to a "minority" and a white director is smug in believing he knows better with Mexican culture. . .than the actual Mexican filmmaker working on the film. . .there's only so much you can do. It tried, it really did, and I'm glad to say there is some heart left in there. . .it's just not enough. . .
@trashypenguinnnm1485
@trashypenguinnnm1485 5 жыл бұрын
12:03 right when he says there's no monstrous quality, we see monster teeth on the school.
@tgguitarguy
@tgguitarguy 5 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the exact same thing.
@proton8689
@proton8689 5 жыл бұрын
I'm going to be honest, I noticed that too.
@ladymeme9078
@ladymeme9078 4 жыл бұрын
i think its important to keep making quality films even if they are for "babies". If you're continually fed shitty content as a kid, you're conditioned to choose shitty content as an adult. One of the greatest things about Pixar is they don't underestimate their audience. For this reason I agree with you about how unnecessary sequels like "Monsters University" were. However, its weird that you would praise "A Bugs Life" for pushing animation boundaries but ignore the stunning animation and use of lights in Coco. And tbh Coco is a more interesting story.
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