Is Tarkov Going in the Wrong Direction?

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Veritas

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0:00 Intro
2:02 Keep in mind…
5:09 Realism
6:52 “You can’t shoot that fast IRL”
7:18 “Operators can’t control their weapons IRL”
8:21 “There is a ton of recoil IRL”
10:00 “Armor does nothing IRL”
10:27 “It’s really hard to run and crouch with gear IRL”
13:12 Stop talking about realism
14:30 It’s a skill issue
15:08 What is Nikita’s vision?
16:34 We used to have covert movement
17:31 We used to have stamina and mobility
19:21 We used to be able to control our weapons
20:41 We used to be able to take a bullet or two
22:04 Armor used to work
23:44 Why better armor, mobility, and weapon handling is good
24:48 Tarkov combat right now is awful
28:44 Good armor makes everything else better
29:21 Some final thoughts
31:12 What do I want?
33:17 Why we miss the old Tarkov
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@VeritasGames
@VeritasGames Жыл бұрын
Today's updates have changed the game in EXACTLY the ways I wanted. Just got done a 9 hour stream of fun and excitement - the first in a LONG time. It actually felt like 2018 in all of the best ways, without laser beam recoil and bunny hopping like everyone is afraid of. It's not perfect, but god damn it's sure as hell a start! Thank you for all of the support from the community and those that spoke up in agreement, it was everyone coming together to help make these changes happen. Keep the feedback to Nikita and BSG constructive and good things will come.
@Azphyre
@Azphyre Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@ianculliton1783
@ianculliton1783 Жыл бұрын
Loce you bro
@exioz99
@exioz99 Жыл бұрын
Good jobb. At least someone had the balls to say the truth
@davidsnedden4796
@davidsnedden4796 Жыл бұрын
So awesome to see it turn around today. Thanks for this video and helping us voice our collective concern.
@LevitatingGaming
@LevitatingGaming Жыл бұрын
Will you leave this video up? Many new players will be confused if this video has a million views in a couple weeks. They may avoid the game if they don't understand how fast BSG updated things
@sweJEverywhere
@sweJEverywhere Жыл бұрын
Tarkov feels like a full time job made for streamers rather than fans.
@PsyTranceKaitia
@PsyTranceKaitia Жыл бұрын
People were playing games for 8+ hours even before streamers?
@VeritasGames
@VeritasGames Жыл бұрын
Trust me, it's not even made for us.
@LongWarEnjoyer
@LongWarEnjoyer Жыл бұрын
Yes.
@r3mxd
@r3mxd Жыл бұрын
except is not. your just bad at it so it feels that way
@Puuha1
@Puuha1 Жыл бұрын
Aye, i have been playing since launch and game was at its best imo when streamers strarted playing, after that it just got worst and worst. Barely even opened game last wipe anymore :/
@ScavsAteMyLegs
@ScavsAteMyLegs Жыл бұрын
“Realism” should not overshadow good gameplay mechanics, Tarkov’s realism was its best when it was in the interest of providing immersion rather than limiting our fun.
@Puuha1
@Puuha1 Жыл бұрын
Thats when my bro stopped playing and me following. Tarkov was at its best imo when streamers started playing but it got bad quick
@r3mxd
@r3mxd Жыл бұрын
couldnt have said it better myself
@klo45pl
@klo45pl Жыл бұрын
Bruh if it was relaistic i could explain it but the recoil for example is both dogshit and unrealistic
@TacticalTushie
@TacticalTushie Жыл бұрын
Realism isn't the problem. An unarmored scav walking away after taking a slug to the face isn't realism. Terrible audio isn't realism. There are realism issues but they are pretty minor relatively.
@andreschmitz8729
@andreschmitz8729 Жыл бұрын
there is no realism on a mp5 kicking more than an ak47 in IRL lmao. We know that Nikita dont like the laser beam shootout, that's why jamming goes when you dump 200 bullets sequently.
@dinasticks8654
@dinasticks8654 Жыл бұрын
Imo the reason why old Tarkov looked and felt so much more fun was because it felt like the player was in control of a trained military operative, using whatever he can find. Currently, it feels more like the player is controlling some random bloke trying to figure out how survival works, let alone guns.
@void8656
@void8656 Жыл бұрын
Would be kinda cool of your character got better at controlling recoil, movement, and that shit as they leveled up. Though that'd make the game impossible for new players, its still a cool idea
@bradley5735
@bradley5735 Жыл бұрын
fr, sometimes I feel like I'm more physically fit than my PMC who is "Trained Ex-Military Personel". The baseline of skill, expertise and strength should be "Trained Military Personel" and not "random military aged male that happens to be in an apocolypse"
@lolroflroflcakes
@lolroflroflcakes Жыл бұрын
Honesty this kind of seems like a better premise than a horde of mercenaries who decided to stay in a Hellmouth with no stable pay, no stable source of food, nowhere to go if they get hurt and nobody to trust. It just seems like a really poor business decision for someone who is ultimately supposed to be financially motivated above all else. It makes much more sense that we are just another scav learning to survive in a post-societal collapse wasteland. Perhaps Tarkov is the location of some sort of false hope myth and so survivors from all over congregate there hoping for a better life but they only find violence and greed.
@theltrogers2518
@theltrogers2518 Жыл бұрын
This is exactly it.
@lordwhippleton9734
@lordwhippleton9734 Жыл бұрын
@@void8656 You do level up these skills by performing them. Just takes a while.
@wolfdima
@wolfdima Жыл бұрын
Man, you single-handedly made devs to actually hear the community and explained in detail every pain we had to cope with for recent 4-5 wipes. Kudos for that!
@TroutmanRoger
@TroutmanRoger Жыл бұрын
Sorry for that, but saying "the community" is not only people who follow streamers etc.. There is a lot of people like me who don't even want this kind of shitty update, but anyway I feel like i'm just a piece of shit and now dev are more involved about listening random streamer than be focus on their own vision ! Saddest things, Nikita don't even got the community he want, few years ago he was saying in a interview "this is very hard game for people who wants challenge", now is all about STIMS to be robocop and then full auto 7.62 with like 35 of recoil lol anyway, i don't like this way, but i'm gonna spray like a idiot at every game ! As they said, "Spray and PRay" that's what you guys want ^^
@NarutoMagicCyclops
@NarutoMagicCyclops Жыл бұрын
@@TroutmanRoger Clearly not a part of the community looking to actually improving the game for the better. If you can't control the recoil of your gun that's a you problem, not the guns problem, sorry but it's not like your shooting a fucking cannon.
@TroutmanRoger
@TroutmanRoger Жыл бұрын
@@NarutoMagicCyclops there is a point you miss, or maybe my english is very bad. But anyway, now its the most easiest thing to do in Tarkov to control the recoil, i mean there is no recoil anymore so what are you talking about ? I'm complaining about the recoil update because now you can full auto anyone without the presssure we got before like "oh if i full auto this guy, he is not so close and i will probably misse every shot" now this things is over ! Because anyway 7.62 or 5.56 you can transform them like a toy with no recoil anymore.
@TroutmanRoger
@TroutmanRoger Жыл бұрын
@@NarutoMagicCyclops and when i said "spray and pray" don't take it seriously, it's a way to say "now its more easy and i will not bring semi auto in raid, i will full auto like a idiot, because that's what people want apparently" so reading you saying "if you can't control your gun"that's nonsense lol, now with the good modding anyone can control the recoil even dude who don't even know Tarkov 😂
@NarutoMagicCyclops
@NarutoMagicCyclops Жыл бұрын
@@TroutmanRoger If someone is 25-75 meters out, full auto is completely viable. I don't know what your complaint is about it. Before the update even semi-auto wasn't even viable for most guns, it's idiotic to think the gun itself has such uncontrollable recoil for anything smaller than a .50 cal, like I said you're not autoing cannons. If everyone has the same level of recoil to deal with that is controllable then it becomes a skill issue on the users end, that much is pretty obvious.
@Tomographic
@Tomographic Жыл бұрын
Well said. I'm constantly toe dipping in Tarkov these days... Every time I attempt to re-commit because of the awesome moments I can and have captured over the years, I just know it's only a matter of time before I take another huge break because of the time commitment and overly punishing nature of what Nikita perceives to be "realism" chipping away at my enjoyment of the game and willingness to endure the nonsense of it all. *sigh* launches EFT
@ChippaWubba
@ChippaWubba Жыл бұрын
bwhahah, last comment got me right in the feels!
@CreeperBusters1000
@CreeperBusters1000 Жыл бұрын
it feels like every update im looking for 1 bone thrown in the direction of "dont make me waste my entire week trying to literally do 1 quest" but every update they just make quests harder and remove more items from the starting traders
@kort360
@kort360 Жыл бұрын
Yo Tomographic! Used to watch you and Aculite / Fugglet / Stonemountain backin PUBG days.
@SanguinaryOtter
@SanguinaryOtter Жыл бұрын
For me it's hard to say. It's just not fun anymore. There are not enough happy moments to make up for the monotony and grindiness plus the intense punishment.
@christophkogler6220
@christophkogler6220 Жыл бұрын
@@SanguinaryOtter guns suck, movement sucks, LOOTING sucks. games just not fun rn
@SwampFoxTV
@SwampFoxTV Жыл бұрын
You put so much time and thought into this message and it shows, and resonates well. I really hope the devs have already watched at this point. Thank you for making this
@vdub2014
@vdub2014 Жыл бұрын
love your edits dude! waiting for the next movie.
@gannonwinters5998
@gannonwinters5998 Жыл бұрын
Looks like they did
@DaniIhzaFarrosi
@DaniIhzaFarrosi Жыл бұрын
The devs definitely just watched this. They tweeted about a new update addressing this topic
@mr.oleg_s9140
@mr.oleg_s9140 Жыл бұрын
Разработчики посмотрят это видео, а что толку? Они ничего менять не будут. Tarkov is realistic shit
@shaneminichiello
@shaneminichiello Жыл бұрын
@@mr.oleg_s9140 The newest update addresses several topics in this video. They definitely watched and listened.
@flowlercoaster
@flowlercoaster Жыл бұрын
I'm glad you brought up HUDs. People act like it's so unrealistic when it just translates info that you would realistically be aware of if you were physically present.
@oscaranderson5719
@oscaranderson5719 Жыл бұрын
I remember one of my clanmates griping about how they had to watch the ammo count instead of being aware of it based on weight like how they’d do in real life. shit like that video games simply can’t translate one-to-one.
@whipwalka
@whipwalka 10 ай бұрын
@@oscaranderson5719 this is a bad take from you, tarkov has no ammo count and you simply have to remember how much ammo is in your mags and you get a feel for when you are about to empty, an ammo counter is the least important part of a hud. i could turn that shit off in cod and it wouldnt matter
@oscaranderson5719
@oscaranderson5719 10 ай бұрын
@@whipwalka the fuck does “you can do without it” have anything to do with my point?
@h3artcxxk
@h3artcxxk 8 ай бұрын
I think in the case of HUDs, people confuse the term "realistic" with "immersive"
@interrogatorchaplain8335
@interrogatorchaplain8335 Жыл бұрын
Old tarkov looks so fun and looks like a fight to survive even when wounded you still fight like hell
@blotnia
@blotnia Жыл бұрын
yeah thats why im kind of on the fence to even get into it tbh
@Frs_Jake
@Frs_Jake Жыл бұрын
@@blotniaI just got into the game and although older tarkov looks like more fun, I still really enjoy new tarkov
@fusion_
@fusion_ Жыл бұрын
@@Frs_Jakeyou like it now but will hate it. There’s so much wrong with it. And also literally all lobbies Have cheaters there was a vid made on it by someone recently and was very informative
@mkkk1058
@mkkk1058 Жыл бұрын
@@fusion_ You only hate it because you love it.
@fusion_
@fusion_ Жыл бұрын
@@mkkk1058 I love the premise but there’s so much wrong with the execution it makes me wonder what the game could have been like
@ewhitey18
@ewhitey18 Жыл бұрын
Nikita is going to see this and be like “oh yeah there is a hud that shows you what part of your body is injured…now let’s make it where you have to sit there and examine yourself for 30 seconds to figure out where you are injured”
@GlitchGull
@GlitchGull Жыл бұрын
💀
@Morning0v0Star
@Morning0v0Star Жыл бұрын
LOL😂 It's too real
@Dia_dhuit
@Dia_dhuit Жыл бұрын
Yup he'll have no sympathy ffs
@marcomarrazza9810
@marcomarrazza9810 Жыл бұрын
Would be so much better
@randomyoutubecommentersecu7639
@randomyoutubecommentersecu7639 Жыл бұрын
Another situation of developers having no idea what they want to do with the game vs what the community really needs. Destroying their own game just like insurgency sandstorm did to the og insurgency playerbase.
@davidponder1654
@davidponder1654 Жыл бұрын
The vector .45 literally has a built in feature to mitigate recoil, but Tarkov makes it seem like your pmc drags the weapon upwards himself
@princenaimNFS
@princenaimNFS Жыл бұрын
glad someone finally said this
@geetarguy777
@geetarguy777 Жыл бұрын
That’s because Tarkov is a trash game, not “has become” trash, it always has been.
@ryanreflex
@ryanreflex Жыл бұрын
@@geetarguy777 just like cod
@emilianozamora399
@emilianozamora399 Жыл бұрын
Btw it's not that much recoil negation it just delays it, but it's still really unrealistic
@davidponder1654
@davidponder1654 Жыл бұрын
@@emilianozamora399 no it definitely doesn’t get rid of it completely, but it makes it controllable with short bursts
@argo7155
@argo7155 8 ай бұрын
I like the SQUAD implementation of stamina. When stamina is zero you dony stop running, you are just little slower
@tau6103
@tau6103 Жыл бұрын
I’m a new player and remember the very first thing I though when I entered my first raid is “wow the stamina system in this game really sucks, it would really benefit from some kind of adrenaline mechanic, but the game is in early access so they probably just haven’t added it yet” but now I realize they should have and could have added something like this a while ago, nice to see some people with real influence share this opinion.
@aleksandarsavevski377
@aleksandarsavevski377 Жыл бұрын
The game is a joke it's been in early access for years I think from 2017 or even earlier
@Barrel7899
@Barrel7899 Жыл бұрын
Would love a part 2 of this where you talk about how the game doesn't value your time, the meta of things, economy, and all the other things you didn't get to
@Blind_Hawk
@Blind_Hawk Жыл бұрын
Me too!
@eatscrayons4538
@eatscrayons4538 Жыл бұрын
Yea definitely doesn't value your time. The amount of play time you need to just get the flea market or tier two vendors is crazy. If you can only play a couple hours a week, then you are just going to be at a massive disadvantage at all times.
@5p3ctre3
@5p3ctre3 Жыл бұрын
I've been playing since june 2018 and this is accurate. It definitely does not value your time.
@aintnuttinnice_7590
@aintnuttinnice_7590 Жыл бұрын
hes pretty much said everything he needs to if you cant extrapolate his feelings from a 40 min vid then i dont know what to tell you
@Barrel7899
@Barrel7899 Жыл бұрын
@@aintnuttinnice_7590 He literally said at the end of the vid there are topics he didn't get to that he wanted to (the ones I mentioned).
@Magswap
@Magswap Жыл бұрын
I like to always use the term "believable" vs "realistic"...and right now Tarkov is neither.
@VeritasGames
@VeritasGames Жыл бұрын
If you haven't seen this: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qH_SY5-laKmXiqM
@Magswap
@Magswap Жыл бұрын
@Veritas good lord that was a phenomenal video! Can't believe with the amount of videos of yours that I've watched I hadn't seen it before. I especially loved the Insurgency segment which admittedly is one of my favorite games right now and it makes sense as to why. I also completely agree with the PMC recognition part which honestly is why I mainly play Tarkov as a solo. I tried to get friends into the game and they all quit for various reasons, but teammate recognition mixed with the lack of memorizing the first 30 tasks ruined the game for them all...lvl 15 flea is terrible and with the new restrictions should go back down to lvl 10. Maybe a future video (I know you mentioned you considered putting into this one) on the absurd difficulty for a new player in the Modern Tarkov is needed as well. The flow state of Tarkov absolutely needs addressed so hopefully Nikita truly takes these things into consideration as I feel like more and more players will move on from the game. You've done incredible work for this community as you know Veritas, hopefully the game turns around before it's too late! Thank you for all your efforts!
@fnhatic6694
@fnhatic6694 Жыл бұрын
@@VeritasGames Did you seriously make a video unironically featuring the "if you want a realistic game you should trip randomly" argument? How are you this utterly insufferable?
@003snow
@003snow Жыл бұрын
Tarkov veteran here. Played since the 2nd wipe. Put easily over 5000+ hours into this game. It was something special. No matter how many times I died, I would get back up and try try again. Even when I felt cheated in some way, I kept going knowing that there was always more to learn and a better strat to play. Never took breaks and played heavily during the begging of every wipe. Even the bad ones. More and more I kept getting shit on and I just kept telling my self "I need to get better" "I just got out played" "maybe next time" I averaged 50% survival rate over 300-1000 raids. Best being 65% at one point. But now my survival rate is 6% no that's not a typo. 6%.... No matter how well I play. No matter how nasty of a shot I get off. No matter how hard I try. I'm not rewarded for my hard work and I don't get any better. I tried to convince my self that it was all the better gamers joining the game. That I was just not following meta. That maybe I fell off as a player and need to try twice as hard. But I never got better. That was half the intrigue of the game for me. The feeling of becoming a more grizzled PMC. The feeling of slowly earning your way up to the top. Not just through sheer hours, but through analysis and hard work. You felt your self get better, even when you didn't have a number like level to tell you you got better. That's all gone now. Not only do I feel like I sank to the bottom of the barrel. Not only do I feel like no matter how much I play I'm not getting better, I'm getting worse. But worst of all, I'm not having fun. Dying over and over again just to eventually make it out was a terrific feeling of success. Knowing you traversed the hellscape that is Tarkov enough time to make some progress in your character and in your game skills. It felt amazing. Challenging to say the least, but it was a rewarding feeling. I never felt more defeated in my recent games. I kept attributing it to my fault. When i did eventually get some extractions. They felt bland and based off luck. After watching this video, I can safely say its the game and not the player. My boy Veritas, the man, the myth, the legend. Who pummeled me more times than once in-game. The guy who I watched calmly and methodically devour whole squads from day one, is now having the same troubles I have. I think I can put the AK down and give it a rest until the game gets fixed to a better state. I don't think its a skill issue when someone who is probably in the top 500 players like Veritas is struggling landing a headshot, controlling his recoil, not getting 1 tapped with class 4 on, or running 50 meters with midclass gear and getting winded. RIP Tarkov. May the devs cast a revive on you one day. Until then, you will be missed.
@VincenzoThePinguinos
@VincenzoThePinguinos Жыл бұрын
I feel the very same way, I haven't played as much as you but I too have the feeling of never progressing or even regressing no matter how much time I invest in the game. I can't remember the last time a raid felt satisfying
@jamalvichez5261
@jamalvichez5261 Жыл бұрын
@@woooboy4022 if you dont care it doesnt mean that nobody else cares
@COKENCAKE
@COKENCAKE Жыл бұрын
Just because you are a veteran does not mean you get to experience the game as a good player, that requires work. Sometimes it's just accepting that you just ain't it.
@OriginalDrGonzo
@OriginalDrGonzo Жыл бұрын
These are reasons I just play call of duty. I have fun when I play that game. Often times when I play tarkov, I feel every emotion under the sun except fun. I have fun in tarkov, but is often overshadowed by disparity.
@asbjrnbrgaard1167
@asbjrnbrgaard1167 Жыл бұрын
I just started playing The game again after 3 years of The game. It has lost something. I played The game from The beginning and into late 2019. Back then my experience rewarded me. Now i feel like a total noob. The game mechanics is weird now. And i sure miss The Old tarkov. I am not sure i will be playing a lot, since it cause more distress than good days playing. And it is sad. I hope devs Will find their way and make a game that is with The soul of Old tarkov again. That was something special.
@Konslufius
@Konslufius Жыл бұрын
You and those soldiers openend my eyes. I will never pretend to know what is realistic in such scenarios ever again.
@CaptainAshtro
@CaptainAshtro Жыл бұрын
Playing Tarkov today feels like I'm trying to control my entire body in real life with a mouse and keyboard
@ownzye-3630
@ownzye-3630 Жыл бұрын
THEYVE CHANGED IT BACK1!!!!!!!!♥
@xoshnax5962
@xoshnax5962 Жыл бұрын
@@ownzye-3630 what do you mean
@ownzye-3630
@ownzye-3630 Жыл бұрын
@@xoshnax5962 they’ve reverted stamina consumption, decreased energy consumption in raid, reduced recoil for all weapons, stamina penalty decreased when hit by bullets, increased weight limit when overweight, reduced armor penalties to ergonomics and stamina
@FemboichadClip
@FemboichadClip Жыл бұрын
@@ownzye-3630 well it isn't nearly close to how it should be but ig it is closer
@ownzye-3630
@ownzye-3630 Жыл бұрын
@@FemboichadClip nah, If youve played 2020 you'll remember those times, its so much better rn again imo. Now they only need to fix their netcoding, audio and cheater problems, so still lots of work to do, but at least its going into the right direction again
@fatalshooter
@fatalshooter Жыл бұрын
Damn, you've managed to make me miss a Tarkov era I didn't even experience. Great video
@hanzolo7719
@hanzolo7719 Жыл бұрын
It used to be so fun.. Right after Reserve came out was peak Tarkov for me.
@kdudcringe
@kdudcringe Жыл бұрын
@@hanzolo7719 true
@timg4444
@timg4444 Жыл бұрын
You missed the good days of tarkov, dogshit game after inertia
@0bliviongaming454
@0bliviongaming454 Жыл бұрын
I wish I was there I started in 2020 but I'm still glad I started then over now. I appreciate things from both the past and the present although I think overall the new stuff will eventually rule over the past if they take some of the old patches that were good back into the game.
@Avernalism
@Avernalism Жыл бұрын
old tarkov looks so fucking sick
@steadyrow
@steadyrow 7 ай бұрын
man watching the old clips i experiences this like "ahhhh" feeling.
@OkKepler
@OkKepler 9 ай бұрын
9 months later and just saw this video, it’s one of the best I’ve ever seen. Very educated, full of backed up opinions and counter arguments to valid arguments, keep up the work. This is amazing
@nickolson7825
@nickolson7825 Жыл бұрын
This man turned every ragequit anyone playing tarkov has every had and turned it into a valid and understandable argument. Well played, with any luck this will wake up some of the community and get this game back on the right track.
@hereticaljake740
@hereticaljake740 Жыл бұрын
I hope Nikita sees this and considers this feedback. Great job, Veritas. Keep up the good work and don't forget that there are those of us that value your take.
@letmeregisterbitch
@letmeregisterbitch Жыл бұрын
He wont, he sees himself as a perfect game designer and he cannot take any critizism, valid ot not.
@ggwp1847
@ggwp1847 Жыл бұрын
Nikita left Tarkov to go work on his own single player project sadly. That's the problem nobody is talking about
@AxTROUSRxMISSLE
@AxTROUSRxMISSLE Жыл бұрын
You think BSG cares about anything the players say that is negative? All they do is listen to streamers who give stupid ideas for the game.
@richard7673
@richard7673 Жыл бұрын
He don’t care
@acannon2700
@acannon2700 Жыл бұрын
@@letmeregisterbitch he doesn't think he's the perfect game developer, he doesn't care about the game at all, he cares about the experience, which he's crafting to be how he wants it and he openly doesn't care if it's for everyone, he sees it as an artistic endeavor, not a game.
@PrimalOreo
@PrimalOreo Жыл бұрын
The montage in the end made me so full of all kinds of emotions. Nostalgia trip. Good Work
@fookinkoont
@fookinkoont Жыл бұрын
You are a bastion for some of the most crucial changes this game needs to survive. Take care mate
@BlanK-ne4mi
@BlanK-ne4mi Жыл бұрын
I always use to joke with my friends about how "I am a high skilled operator that doesn't know how to climb a small fence, and me taking a shot and just giving up on life". This video really hit that spot, keep up the good work and we hope BSG will take consideration to this.
@CircumSamurai
@CircumSamurai Жыл бұрын
They definitely need to add an adrenaline system or something, especially with how slow & clunky our characters are now. Our dudes should not be giving up on life because someone scratched their expensive plate armor, or because a bullet grazed their arm.
@BigL3Z
@BigL3Z Жыл бұрын
A highly skilled operator that can’t go 45 minutes without a snack either lol
@NailTransGayming
@NailTransGayming Жыл бұрын
@@BigL3Z what, do you mean real soldiers dont stuff 6 bags of croutons up their ass pre engagement to eat so they dont start blacking out and fucking shitting themselves coughing up a lung after a half hour outside base???
@nom6758
@nom6758 Жыл бұрын
​@@CircumSamurai like an automatic "you just got shot, you have 15 seconds to either fight or get out, but you're gonna feel like shit after" switch? Thats a bandaid for the greater damage, stamina, movement problem.
@flarpsgaming
@flarpsgaming Жыл бұрын
Jesus. Jaw dropped with how spot on and well put together this is. This hits every frustration Ive had but didnt know how to voice outside of "recoil sucks" "movement sucks". Said it best with the OG's dont want old tarkov back. We want the fun and feeling of old tarkov. I truly truly miss being extremely excited for wipes and grinding.
@leviclayton5691
@leviclayton5691 Жыл бұрын
For real I remember playing multiple full 6 month long wipes all the way through now after around a month I just lose interest because I feel as though no amount of skill matters to the outcome of most my raids and it just isn’t fun
@skertonultra6712
@skertonultra6712 Жыл бұрын
guys take a look at the last update today
@flarpsgaming
@flarpsgaming Жыл бұрын
@@crouchjump5787 what does this comment even mean...?
@Masterthief014
@Masterthief014 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely amazing points! Especially the weapon control, and stamina not being able to reach cover and just sit there and take it. I gave up on this game when I "Died" to my energy reaching zero because I didn't eat anything in 30 minutes in the raid.
@thegoat9595
@thegoat9595 Жыл бұрын
Honest to god brother, keep this content coming, you've literally been speaking my thoughts out loud the entire duration of this video. I'm a Marine combat veteran and everything you spoke on is 100% accurate. Tarkov is headed in the wrong direction and I hope that through your influence that BSG makes the necessary changes to put EFT back on track. This is my favorite game of all time and to hear your thoughts on these things gives me a glimmer of hope for Tarkov's future, thank you man, you're awesome.
@Dev_Six
@Dev_Six Жыл бұрын
"He's not that injured, he's got his finger blown off and he's got through and through to his leg." Got me
@fus132
@fus132 Жыл бұрын
Not *a* finger, _fingers._
@MajorMayor78546
@MajorMayor78546 Жыл бұрын
That’s what’s it like. -from a retired Marine.
@TheeKevinAtor
@TheeKevinAtor Жыл бұрын
I've been with this game since alpha and this video made me feel like I just said goodbye to an old friend
@XBravo1CharlieX
@XBravo1CharlieX Жыл бұрын
I loved this game but I quit right after they added med animations as I saw the writing on the walls it was going to go in a direction I wasn't excited about I figured I got a good 1k hours out of it and haven't played since
@rileyoward
@rileyoward Жыл бұрын
Brother same. This just reminded me how good us alpha players really had it
@eirvine
@eirvine Жыл бұрын
Been playing since 2017. This game died with twitch drops.
@wackomedic911
@wackomedic911 Жыл бұрын
you and me, and my friend, we all said the same thing. this video made us uninstall tarkov last night. it reminded us of why we started playing tarkov, and why we cant find enjoyment in it anymore.
@e-zee8298
@e-zee8298 Жыл бұрын
@@Omaygot_Yugonmakmibus for real. I only played a little bit before they made the FIR change but i never quite understood why. For certain quests I understand why it works better but being unable to flea items you literally found in raid just because the game says you didn't is confusing
@viatlas4835
@viatlas4835 Жыл бұрын
This wipe is my first wipe and from the 100 hours that I've put into this game so far I'd have to say I am astounded that there were so many things removed that I thought would have made the game way more interesting and always question why my friends teaching me the game never use certain aspects of the game like blindfiring. I hope it continues to get better and I'm glad they finally fixed the covert movement that should have never been broken in the first place. I'm glad the recoil patch helped so much bc learning to aim as a new player felt impossible to control full auto fire bc of how much recoil my supposed "operator" receives when we know that's not how firearms work.
@colibri2025
@colibri2025 7 ай бұрын
Looking back on this video after 11 months I am so happy they pretty much fixed a lot of these issues that you talk out
@Tybona03
@Tybona03 Жыл бұрын
You know it really is insane how many sights were basically rendered useless by the recoil. Just watching the last segment of the video is mind blowing. Hopefully we can get back to something similar in the future. Great video!
@davidrivera2232
@davidrivera2232 Жыл бұрын
Try using the FOV glitch it’s made a lot of optics I’ve stayed away from useful to me personally.
@gruzi.
@gruzi. Жыл бұрын
@@davidrivera2232 sucks that we have to use a glitch tho
@Lemonpinesol
@Lemonpinesol Жыл бұрын
@@davidrivera2232 FOV glitch is pretty useless if you ever use free look, have to constantly reset it
@davidrivera2232
@davidrivera2232 Жыл бұрын
@@gruzi. it does and will probably get taken away but for now I use the shit out of it with a Acog and it’s been great.
@davidrivera2232
@davidrivera2232 Жыл бұрын
@@Lemonpinesol it is what it is
@baron7562
@baron7562 Жыл бұрын
"Tarkov doesn't respect your time" - Been playing since 2018 and that is the most accurate thing you can say about this game right now.
@Cottam89
@Cottam89 Жыл бұрын
video game and grinds dont respect your time period, the whining is just cringe
@baron7562
@baron7562 Жыл бұрын
​ @Machinist I've already moved on to SP Tarkov which does respect my time. so no I am not whining, I am just pointing out the reality :)
@baron7562
@baron7562 Жыл бұрын
@@Cottam89 Also, if you really think video games and grinding are a waste of time(Which I do agree with for the most part), what are you even doing here in this comment section? You are making yourself look like a Hypocrite
@jeremyt7722
@jeremyt7722 Жыл бұрын
@BARON the real eye opener is comparing the tarkov and sp tarkov sub reddits. There's a big demand for a single player option, and BSGs outright refusal to support it is baffling to me.
@johny17202
@johny17202 Жыл бұрын
@@jeremyt7722 I suppose you can't ban cheaters in single-player as often then give holiday sales to resell them EoD accounts. Probably would hurt the bottom line.
@SixOneZil
@SixOneZil 16 күн бұрын
At 37:35 the emergency reload magazine falling at the same rate as you as you kill the other guy while still being concussed by the nade, followed by the blindfire all with the menu's music... *chef's kiss* haha
@calhoungames
@calhoungames Жыл бұрын
I was lucky enough to play a little bit of Tarkov in those days, and love the hell out of it. It just cannot hold my attention anymore. Great video.
@viniciusschadeck4992
@viniciusschadeck4992 Жыл бұрын
soo i did... i mean, i play the first time before it gona shitty, and i never touch it again since 2 wipes ago where i play little and felt really odd... then i back this wipe just to try and was the longest i get in the game, but is not that fun, i almost only die even for scavs that get me from nowhere, pure florest around me on woods and still they got me behind trees is ridicoulous... players kill me on one single shot, i stopped using armour because they not matter anymore, only if you use armour 4 or better, and no matters the weapon i got, i have only the shitty ammo to use, the game become a job and i'am done, if it not change, i not sure if i will get some far in this... i hate flea under level, why? and why i need soo much levelling and loyalty to get my shitty done in hideout? i mean, i love the game idea and the old days is what keep on my mind, where i have no time to play still got more than 10 levels in few time and have fun the entire time, now i'am playing for more than a month and got 15 just yeasterday, have loot as hell playing as scav but not use one due to leak of "good" bullets, try any real life bullets and for sure punch holes in the enemie is better than use the right bullet, more holes more blood is running out, more blood out get a point where the person die, hole size matter, but you need to hit it, armour really works, and rarely get fucked up to pure pass the bullet in a single time to the armour not work more, need a lot of bullets and just stronger and more powerfull bullets pass easier the armour... or same spot accuracy... i love the game idea, not the game right now
@carlosortiz8764
@carlosortiz8764 Жыл бұрын
I'm grateful I could experience 0.11 and 0.12, with all the changes made to the game I haven't played in over two years. Each wipe I try to come back and I just can't
@mariodrakos1029
@mariodrakos1029 Жыл бұрын
Dude, the end of the video is like 3 exclamation marks to your argument!
@nisemonoyarou
@nisemonoyarou Жыл бұрын
But It's about old EFTs feel, it was drab, you could not play around with mining rigs and shit, let alone have npc conversations. It was despair, like you had your stuff and you HAVE TO extract, anything else fuck you. Maybe, just maybe he has a point, even if it is just his opinion.
@ktg_2castle960
@ktg_2castle960 Жыл бұрын
Honestly, he just fell in love with an early stripped down version. What Tarkov really is may not be a game for him. Nikita has told us what is coming and I know my friends will stop playing. It’s not the game it was and it’s still changing. People want to interrupt Nikita, and tell him he’s messing it up. It was never intended to be the game it was 2-3 years ago. Many people who love this game will be heartbroken once it shows it’s true colors. They can’t let go, he’s right. He needs to adapt or find another game. His time with this game might be done already, he just doesn’t know it yet. Just listen between the lines. He’s preaching there is no Tarkov of old, there’s an incomplete Tarkov in beta to gather data to make the changes
@queenannesrevenge3770
@queenannesrevenge3770 Жыл бұрын
I have 4k hours since 2018 and my biggest gripes are the same as Veritas. We have no stamina, we can't carry any gear, and we can't control our guns. Arguably the 3 most important things to EFT.
@ggwp1847
@ggwp1847 Жыл бұрын
@@ktg_2castle960 It's not Nikita making the changes anymore. He's working on his own single player game now. I think he abandoned Tarkov
@ktg_2castle960
@ktg_2castle960 Жыл бұрын
@@ggwp1847 shit for real? Well all the more reason this lift become a game not for us tbh. I have a feeling Tarkov is in a death spiral depending on who you ask
@babaganoosh3067
@babaganoosh3067 Жыл бұрын
Veritas, a man and passion for Tarkov, saying "last ditch effort". Should be the one single, powerful, meaningful and honest sign that this is the beginning of the end if not answered by BSG, and he is not alone.
@xgraevskopax
@xgraevskopax Жыл бұрын
Hey Veritas. Posting this comment mainly to congratulate you for providing such valuable thoughts and insight throughout the Escape From Tarkov community. I, like yourself, have also been playing EFT since the days of old. I started in late 2017 around what I remember to be patch 0.7 and watching this video really made me reminisce a whole lot. I really, really miss the ability to sneak up on my opponents. In a way, EFT felt like a hide and seek simulator or at least it did to me. I would probably say that this is my biggest grief with the game. Back then I was always upset when I could hear, very clearly, footsteps through several layers of concrete and always found it odd that so many praised the game for having "realistic" sound. Maybe if they meant the actual sounds, which in many instances were based on actual real live sounds and the recording of these, they would have a point. But the way sounds travel in the game world is just ridiculous. I am not going to have long rant on this subject as it would be like trying to convince a misanthrope that humanity is flawed. What I wanted to point out was that at least back then, I could sneak around knowing that my opponents were totally unaware. This is in sense a representation of the very common "rock, paper & scissor" mechanics that many many games utilize. When I play now it feels more like rock , rock and rock. The one who has the best gear wins most engagements, almost without exception. Anyway.. I felt the urge to comment and that is what I did :) I am always looking forward to your next video and hope to see more great analysis in the future, be it in EFT or somewhere else. Peace!
@ninjalord3
@ninjalord3 Жыл бұрын
Man, as a dude who played Tarkov back when the only mode was FACTORY BOTS I wish the game developed differently. I stopped playing a long time ago and honestly, it's guys like you still pushing the game that give me hope. Don't give up man. I hope this video forces people to listen.
@freditarenomm7987
@freditarenomm7987 Жыл бұрын
I got into earliest alpha wave and ive gradually played less and less each wipe as more and more were added. Im the reason you cant go under customs bridge anymore cause i camped that spot ebery day for a wipe and it was blocked off soon after. Truly the most realistic game ever created where an realistic sneaky spot thats easy to check is inaccessible
@freeyoutubemusic1121
@freeyoutubemusic1121 Жыл бұрын
They listened
@not_that_jon_guy
@not_that_jon_guy Жыл бұрын
Just coming by again to say, you did it. I'm 100% giving you credit for bringing REAL examples in a very well laid out and clearly explained way to get BSG to listen, and they actually did. I know you're obviously not the only one talking about this stuff, but you took it from complaints with no support to real world examples that are time and time again proven. Good shit man.
@MegaSprinks
@MegaSprinks Жыл бұрын
I find it hard to understand how anyone can take issue with what you're doing. Well done for keeping these debates alive and enduring the flack you receive in the process. You're discussions/investigations are doing wonders for the health of this brilliant game and I applaud you! Thanks and respect.
@aeoneternal5193
@aeoneternal5193 Жыл бұрын
Great video, your videos are always informative and very thorough, I often think you go under appreciated thanks for being the way you are
@NicoZeTerrible
@NicoZeTerrible Жыл бұрын
This really made me consider what is meant by "the old game" never really played it beyond 2 years ago, but this all seems logical and makes perfect sense, hope Nikita sees this
@paradigm010
@paradigm010 Жыл бұрын
BRO THIS IS HOW IVE FELT THESE LAST 2 YEARS, perfect video mate. Love the multiple perspectives and concise points. Hope Nikita watches this
@toxicrainprod5594
@toxicrainprod5594 8 ай бұрын
awesome video man some of the best solo pvp i watched in a while
@nicolassmithlemaire1232
@nicolassmithlemaire1232 Жыл бұрын
just subbed you got the feelling of comming back to tarkov just right didn't think it was that bad tho
@tactilenomad8658
@tactilenomad8658 Жыл бұрын
I feel like Tarkov hit a sweet spot at the release of Labs after the healing animations and single round loading were added that I miss for sure.
@Evski619
@Evski619 Жыл бұрын
Free labs, running in with a hatchet and baiting raiders over to freeze area. Those were the mf days man. I remember the first time I ran into raiders, I thought they were real PMCs, I was in a full blown firefight with those mother fuckers and my hand was shaking so much that I could barely hold down the wasd keys. The weight system combined with the stamina system was what ruined it for me. I started to lose interest the same time Warrun did. Every game that I spend a lot of time in, it's biggest downfall seems to be the devs and far to many features that just makes the game clunky (r6s).
@shelltoe_soul
@shelltoe_soul Жыл бұрын
yeah I miss the feeling of the game between the release of labs to the release of the reserve expansion. The AS VAL meta was just so much fun, so many of the guns felt so good. If they just reverted the recoil changes, it would fix like 90% of the problems for me tbh.
@casedistorted
@casedistorted Жыл бұрын
Yeah that was the best time in the game. Reserve was also a good time, but shortly before lighthouse came out the game sharply went downhill.
@Opachki69420
@Opachki69420 Жыл бұрын
@@shelltoe_soul val wasnt even really meta it was just one of the most fun to use(with the current ammo reworks even the hk and m4 wouldnt be as strong as back then as its not just m995 and bp val spam)
@rel4pse1337
@rel4pse1337 Жыл бұрын
You have made one of the most clear cut videos explaining exactly how so many of us feel about the direction of the game.. thank you veritas. I hope Nikita and the BSG team see this and reflect on some of the changes they have made!
@MUGenjoyer
@MUGenjoyer Жыл бұрын
thankyou for this. all I want is that old feeling of the "adrenaline" of getting hit and using pain meds to stay in the fight until you could get away or win
@timourmarimuntz5294
@timourmarimuntz5294 11 ай бұрын
thank you for taking on this task and making this video that ,in my opinion, really takes care of the most important faults in tarkov right now.
@AjackLee4
@AjackLee4 Жыл бұрын
Holy shit dude thank you SO MUCH for this video. People like me haven't had a voice in Tarkov over the reddit armchairs until now. This was VERY VERY VERY needed. I hope we see better things in the future.
@Atomic_Robot_
@Atomic_Robot_ Жыл бұрын
I remember getting into this game around 2017-2018, been waiting 3 years for someone to make a video like this. I'd love to see the game come back around and be able to enjoy it again.
@oleksandrmarkovichenko5774
@oleksandrmarkovichenko5774 Жыл бұрын
3 years ago is about when I completely lost faith in BSG. This wipe is just a culmination of their poor management. Glad that Veritas, the guy I respect a lot, has a similar vision. The only thing I hope now is that there is a developer who will actually see the potential in our community and will create a game which we demand so hardly
@onlylegend1709
@onlylegend1709 Жыл бұрын
@@oleksandrmarkovichenko5774 agreed fully. they have a gem on their hands truthfully could be bigger then most modern survival games
@00Herobrine
@00Herobrine Жыл бұрын
Funnily enough 3 years ago is when Nikita said tarkov is not supposed to be fun in a podcast, I can't find the clip anywhere but it's stuck in my head since that day. I gave up hope when I realized how egotistical the devs are.
@ryanbrady1860
@ryanbrady1860 Жыл бұрын
This puts together all of the thoughts I didn’t know I had. It just felt so much better to win and lose fights back then. Playing the game was fun. I had also never thought about an adrenaline system, but it makes so much sense.
@mikeokismall3831
@mikeokismall3831 Жыл бұрын
Yup, I think you hit the nail on the head. I had similar feelings but didn't know how to put it into words.
@ShimonMaruani
@ShimonMaruani Жыл бұрын
Man this is the best Tarkov video I seen. I sat down and couldn't stop watching. You actually summarized my feelings to a video with explanation. I didn't experience the early days, it looks like it was a fun game that I realy want to play, not like the game we have today. I keep trying to play but quits because it is not fun. People thinks that the Arena will give us a place to experience a fun gunfight experience. The game is not ready for Arena with the current gungame condition. The condition as I describe it as a "Shooter that can't shoot". I usually play to max traders than start PVP. this is normally when I quit. now days I didn't get to lvl 15 . I got enough sooner. no need to suffer.
@christophkogler6220
@christophkogler6220 Жыл бұрын
fps game but your character has jello arms
@iangus0832
@iangus0832 Жыл бұрын
One thing I feel is shared by a lot of the old players is that we never really could get "tired" of old Tarkov. We had our bad raids or even our bad days, but we kept on playing. Nowadays though, I feel as if I can't sit down and play for more than an hour before I'm just tired of the game. It never used to seem like a chore to play like it does now.
@BrodyCanuck
@BrodyCanuck Жыл бұрын
Not exactly a fair comparison, its a lot harder to get tired of a game when its still fresh to you. Chances are you'd get tired of the game if it didnt change much over the course of 6 years, and if they didnt change it you'd most likely be getting tired of the game just as fast as you are now.
@nox2889
@nox2889 Жыл бұрын
This happens with almost every game. You get used to something and it doesn't feel fresh anymore. Like Overwatch is a good example for me. I played the shit out of Overwatch and I miss how that game felt. I was so excited to play OW2. OW2 comes out and its different refreshed take on the game but it's still Overwatch. I'll never get that feeling back.
@tvheadcontent
@tvheadcontent Жыл бұрын
This video opens up amazing conversation and puts a lot in perspective, amazing work Veritas I just subbed
@JustVentus02
@JustVentus02 Жыл бұрын
Honestly I wish I got into it earlier, this combat system seems like something that I feel I would have some semblance of chance... new tarkov is really really hard for me to get into for a lot of reasons.... Thank you for telling me about this and its amazing to see the game like this
@m0ff607
@m0ff607 Жыл бұрын
It took sowr3cked making a video and getting a petition signed by thousands of people for Jagex to realize they went down the wrong path with their game. I am full copium mode hoping bsg can have a similar awakening. One quote from back then when we got the 2007scape poll is "its not our fault they got it right the first time" and I think that resonates heavily with what bsg has been doing with tarkov. They achieved something so special very early on and have tried building on top of that to the extent that they've made their game objectively less enjoyable to play. I pray that they can scrounge up the tiny amount of humility required to admit that a few steps backward are what's required for tarkov to be back on the right path.
@xRyannn
@xRyannn Жыл бұрын
I feel like there's a handful of popular games that made this same mistake. They struck gold and somehow overthought it by changing the formula of what made their games the best. Some of them reverted, but some companies stand firm with their changes and pay the ultimate price. I really hope BSG at least consider making adjustments.
@m0ff607
@m0ff607 Жыл бұрын
@@xRyannn the inability to move backwards because of the delusion that constantly moving forward is the only way to achieve a goal
@turkishjedi2195
@turkishjedi2195 Жыл бұрын
The move backwards really isnt as extreme in this game as it is with many others IMO. The core of the game is still the same, and its what makes the game fun
@visoriannull832
@visoriannull832 Жыл бұрын
@@turkishjedi2195 Veritas constantly brings that up. Gun recoil isn't a hard coded factor, reduce the numbers. Scav accuracy isn't a hard coded factor, reduce the numbers Movement speed isn't a hard coded factore, increase the numbers. Literally the only thing keeping the game as it is now BSG, and BSG worshippers being delusional.
@m0ff607
@m0ff607 Жыл бұрын
@@turkishjedi2195 that's a really good point. It really is just individual values adjusted to simulate something the game didn't need at all. It's like they tried to take a step towards ultra realism but ended up only making their game feel slow and unresponsive
@danielp.2213
@danielp.2213 Жыл бұрын
As someone who didn't get to experience early Tarkov, thank you for explaining the nuances and differences over time in the game. It makes a lot more sense why it feels like my PMC turns into a quivering turnip as soon as they start taking enemy fire!
@owenbiche5615
@owenbiche5615 Жыл бұрын
i feel this so hard never played tarkov before so this is my first wipe started 30 days in and immediately knew as a security armed guard myself that i can out preform my PMC i can outshoot outrun and endure more (accidently shot myself in the leg in my off time once lol) what rlly stuck with me was when i found a t6 armor that i took to dorms so i could finish one of the 3000 quests there and got instakilled made me realize that armor is legit worthless to the point that what i do most often now in no armor no helm factory runs because then at least im playing R6 without the toxicity
@Pdxgunfighter
@Pdxgunfighter 9 ай бұрын
Being able to move after being shot would be such a game changer especially for the solo experience. I could actually have a chance to pin point where I’m getting shot from and possibly have a chance to fight back. Tarkov needs this for sure.
@jl4w54
@jl4w54 Жыл бұрын
I agree with all of these points. I love the emphasis on the fact that my character should be able to control his body and weapon. What we have now is not realism or good for entertainment. The body armor used to extend time to kill for better back and forth engagements. Those fights were the ones that get your blood pumping and have you jumping up and down after winning a tough fight. Now it feels like if you kill someone, you just say "got one" and carry on with no emotion because they died in one shot.
@FINDarkside
@FINDarkside Жыл бұрын
I don't really agree with the claim that armor is too weak at the moment and that making armors even better would somehow make it more about skill. It wouldn't. It would make it more about who can dedicate their whole life to grind the game. Low level players already can't access good ammo at the moment which means that you can magdump a chad in the chest without him dying.
@jl4w54
@jl4w54 Жыл бұрын
@@FINDarkside that hasn't been my experience at all. I die to 2 bullets with tier 5 armor. That's silly. Makes armor matter way less. More shots to kill does equal more skill to me. More room for outplay. Dying in one or two shots means whoever sees who first. That's luck at that point
@FINDarkside
@FINDarkside Жыл бұрын
@@jl4w54 Then the enemy was shooting with bad ammo. There's a reason why the meta with some ammo is to shoot at legs. It's because hitting thorax doesn't do anything if the enemy has armor.
@jl4w54
@jl4w54 Жыл бұрын
@@FINDarkside I just don't agree with this man. I have found that having high tier armor is pointless due to how fast you die with it on anyway. Idk what ammo you are shooting at these Chad's with, but I tend to kill tier 5 armor or less with just a few good hits that can come from a single mag. This is not me flexing, most of the time it's luck. But that's also why it doesn't feel good. If you have something tier 5 that costs 210k rubles, you should be tanking someone's pst ammo. You earned the right to tank that. Some dude that went in the raid with a 20k gun with 95 ruble per shot ammo shouldn't have a chance against you if you're walking in there with 2 mil worth of gear
@cheesypony
@cheesypony Жыл бұрын
@@jl4w54 you are stupid if you think "whoever sees who first wins the fight, thats just luck" situational awareness is not luck
@jordankross1
@jordankross1 Жыл бұрын
Wow, this is spot on in so many ways and I actually defend Tarkov to my friends a lot of the time. This put so much into perspective to me. I feel like I've been in denial so bad!
@Blind_Hawk
@Blind_Hawk Жыл бұрын
Same with me...
@swiggyswole1566
@swiggyswole1566 Жыл бұрын
same
@flyingschoolbus9557
@flyingschoolbus9557 Жыл бұрын
Same
@OkVibez
@OkVibez Жыл бұрын
Haha same here. I’ve been blinded
@nom6758
@nom6758 Жыл бұрын
you were in denial, now you arent.
@christianjohnson3205
@christianjohnson3205 Жыл бұрын
This is well done! It’s interesting because there still isn’t anything like Tarkov imo and I love it
@francislefebvre9895
@francislefebvre9895 Жыл бұрын
thanks for the video. Constructive criticism is what is needed for anything to go forward!
@holycrapnukekiller
@holycrapnukekiller Жыл бұрын
with this video and treys video on recoil i really hope nikkitas eyes have been opened. this is the most vocal the community has been and something is eventually going to give.
@anselmbuder
@anselmbuder Жыл бұрын
Now we only need a dev that actually gives a shit or two plus is capable of accepting that not all of his ideas or some detail to his vision of the game is perfect....
@timg4444
@timg4444 Жыл бұрын
You think nakita is capable of admitting he is wrong? LMFAO
@anselmbuder
@anselmbuder Жыл бұрын
@@timg4444 I sure hope so, though my expectations are low. Alternatively we can all watch tarkov die rather quickly than slowly.
@rockyaboba9466
@rockyaboba9466 Жыл бұрын
Abandon all hope.
@Ryuzenski
@Ryuzenski Жыл бұрын
This is the most well spoken analysis of what's happened to the game over time, and I loved every bit of insight. My only complaint is that the devs will ignore literally everything you said and add a bowel movement mechanic or some stupid shit Edit: I'm so happy I was proven wrong just hours after posting. This is a pleasant surprise
@Element9846
@Element9846 Жыл бұрын
bOwEl MoVeMeNtS! Now thats immersion! Haha awesome comment.
@andyrew9794
@andyrew9794 Жыл бұрын
They did added TP so i wouldnt be surprised if they do
@gerbolt8177
@gerbolt8177 Жыл бұрын
Funny enough look at their story on Instagram
@marcusaurelius3487
@marcusaurelius3487 Жыл бұрын
Check their twitter, they just changed everything
@Ryuzenski
@Ryuzenski Жыл бұрын
@@marcusaurelius3487 wow I thought you guys were messing with me but it looks like hell is actually freezing over LMFAO
@kallathor3863
@kallathor3863 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this video!
@notachannel5476
@notachannel5476 Жыл бұрын
your 100 percent right on every point in this video and i have been feeling the same way for a while keep up the good work
@MaxPalaro
@MaxPalaro Жыл бұрын
What an amazing video, that's why I stopped playing this game, I love some of the moments tarkov broght to me, those memories will stay forever, but I think that we need to have fun, it's still a video game. The realism portion was on point
@pipizzyyy
@pipizzyyy Жыл бұрын
bsg updated tarkov
@tonk3841
@tonk3841 Жыл бұрын
max ta aqui slk
@viniciusschadeck4992
@viniciusschadeck4992 Жыл бұрын
just to not recover health doing nothing than be over a wall is a must nowadays in fps genre, but for sure, leg broke, arm broke is even better, but be totally unmoveable after one single bullet is crazzy crap... some bullets really kill fast some even can literally half a person in the right conditions, but in general people still moving after small calibers shoots and bullet types not make a huge diference against caliber, also recoil is totally unrealistic now, even call of duty is more realistic in that point
@ElShotte
@ElShotte Жыл бұрын
I think in order to realistically recreate any sort of combat situation to the extent EFT wants to, there needs to be a third slider - adrenaline. Like Veritas said, it doesn't matter if your character is tired, thirsty, hungry, etc., they are a trained combatant, in a combat environment, and guess what happens when you start taking fire? Your mind, as soon as it realizes what is happening, releases an incredible amount of adrenaline, BECAUSE YOU GOT TO MOVE OR DIE. Until we see a representation of your character's current adrenaline level that ties into all the systems, we just wont get there. Delaying your character's recoil control is NOT the answer. Don't even get me started on bushes. You walk into a bush, and it doesn't slow down your momentum. No. It just DROPS your movement speed as if your character somehow all of a sudden forgot how to walk fast because branches. The blind fire... USELESS. Might as well just cut it out to free up controls. The fact that you have to WAIT for your character to STOP MOVING before you can press the key (otherwise it just wont work, you have to let it go, then press it again) is just dumb.
@Schimml0rd
@Schimml0rd Жыл бұрын
I really have no idea how they broke blindfire but they did XD never cease to amaze
@PsyTranceKaitia
@PsyTranceKaitia Жыл бұрын
I've wanted the adrenaline system to be implemented since I started in 2020, because its realistic. Sure, in real life combat you or I could be cowering of fear and pissing our own pants by immobilization, but we're playing a game - virtual reality. My fight or flight instinct will always choose fight. I dont think the blind fire function is useless, even had good fights with it this wipe, but I want to be able to control my character while doing so.
@GoodDodge
@GoodDodge Жыл бұрын
If they reversed the Stamina Burn on taking a Hit to Give Stamina rather than take it, That'd probably be the easiest and quickest implimentation of Adrenaline. You're getting hit and need to move to cover? Here's some Stamina, RUN. That right there might be the quickest fix and then take some tweaking to it, like an adrenaline bar that gets depleted as you take damage to feed into leg stamina, but you can only get as much as the adrenaline bar has to give when you take damage. Have 50 adrenaline, 0 Stamina, take 20 points of damage, gain 20 Stamina, adrenaline is dropped to 30, it can recoperate over time, given meds, stamina, food and drink. whatever they think of. That Max Energy drink might have an aditional use or that adrenaline stim.
@ThatGuy-bz2in
@ThatGuy-bz2in Жыл бұрын
But in the clip Vertias used as evidence, it showed that it doesn't work that way. The guy was describing how he had to carry this other guy who "thought he was dying" and was completely out of the fight. Are there cases where someone gets shot and goes super hero, absolutely. Is that normal, I don't think so. I'm not a soldier so I certainly don't know from personal experience, but I don't think that is a normal reaction to getting shot.
@kevinbacker7477
@kevinbacker7477 Жыл бұрын
@@GoodDodge This is a good idea, plus I think you should have run speed increased when being shot at, not decreased. When I'm being shot at, you bet your ass I'm gonna be booking it as fast as possible.
@0Budgetprod
@0Budgetprod Жыл бұрын
Pure Love! Please do part 2 with the topics you mentioned at 29:40
@gessuto6890
@gessuto6890 Жыл бұрын
I remember shooting a looting pmc with a shotgun at the back of the head from less then 5 meters around 4-6 times and him just getting up and killing me in one second. Realism my ass.
@cb2818
@cb2818 Жыл бұрын
it's fascinating to see Tarkov's differences from years ago. I started playing in 2020 so I didn't even realize how different this game looked and felt to play.
@RNG-esus
@RNG-esus Жыл бұрын
I'm one of the lucky few who was involved in the Closed Alpha test back in 2016. The game has come a long way since then, and not always in a good way. 2017-2018 were the games best time in my opinion. I have some really old videos of the Closed Alpha on my channel if you are interested. They arent entertaining, but its a time capsule of sorts
@Sirmellowman
@Sirmellowman Жыл бұрын
yeah its shit now
@McShag420
@McShag420 Жыл бұрын
They've broken more than they've fixed, and all their "realism" adds are mostly just like Veritas says; annoying and unecessary.
@khiplouke9883
@khiplouke9883 Жыл бұрын
Same joined last year.
@Matthew-jg1kh
@Matthew-jg1kh Жыл бұрын
I have been feeling like Tarkov hasn't been as fun for a long time. I thought I was just getting old. Watching the clips of the old Tarkov, now that looks like a fun game I could sink my limited time into. Fantastic video my guy.
@PxPates
@PxPates Жыл бұрын
Tarkov hasn't been a fun game since september to december 2020 imo, the game was so fun and we could enjoy everything that was in the game. Now I am just waiting Arena to see if we will have a pvp experience like the good old days !
@Herkan97
@Herkan97 Жыл бұрын
There is server emulation, but unsure how far back it goes and how much of it functions for each version of Tarkov. A recent build is generally going to be the one that is being hosted by anyone. I managed to find old game builds, but no server emulators for them. I think one of them is an alpha version because of the flashlights I saw in Jackfrags' video, I wanted to try it out but I only have the client and I forgot to see if anyone has an emulator for the server for that game version and maybe that Discord server has been shut down now, I'm rarely on there. I only have recent game builds and server emulators for them, like the client version before and after the inertia update.
@mikerak6283
@mikerak6283 Жыл бұрын
@@PxPates Game peaked in late 2019, when Labs first came out. This was before the massive influx of players brought in due to KZbin's algorithm and Twitch drops. It has been a slow but steady decline since then. Loved what they have added in the form of maps and bosses and weapons, but some of the mechanics and mainly the people have just ruined Tarkov. Hate to gatekeep, but Tarkov was 1000% better before the massive influx of players. Less cheaters as well.
@TwoChin
@TwoChin Жыл бұрын
@@mikerak6283 I've played since alpha, the cheaters have always been pretty ridiculous but you're 100% right about twitch drops ruining the game. That whole community is just awful, too much min maxing/tryhard bs going on and their shit opinions have unfortunately influenced the development of the game itself.
@SkyBlues98
@SkyBlues98 Жыл бұрын
Very true
@dsmith3199
@dsmith3199 Жыл бұрын
As always, you've put together an insightful piece. I agree 100% with your list of wants for a game. Your comment about playing a game that respects our time was an eye opener to why I stopped grinding this wipe. Why play when it doesn't feel like our time is respected? Why play when central mechanics like audio are horribly broken? I love what this game was and hope your arguments are being truly considered. Recent changes suggest that may be happening. Thanks again for all you do!
@resurrectd
@resurrectd 10 ай бұрын
Always impress us man. thank you thank you thank you
@mleong25
@mleong25 Жыл бұрын
Great explanation - to add, a core element I miss is the feeling that I was so immersed in the raid with my own adrenaline and physically moving my body as I move my character and having that autonomy to survive. I still duck and dive the few times I've played this raid, but it feels disconnected when I have that rush but my character just drags hopelessly to die to the following few shots.
@DS-wl5pk
@DS-wl5pk Жыл бұрын
Bro, screaming at the screen like “FUCKING RUN OR DIE YOU PANSY WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS?!?!?!? IS WITTLE BABY TIWRED AWWWW POOR BABY, MOVE YOR FUCKING ASS” Yea, I did lose my cool like this before. I play a lot less now
@ultimatekctv7378
@ultimatekctv7378 Жыл бұрын
Finally. After all this time, someone was able to put into words what I couldn't and lacked the skill for. Thank you for this, can only hope things get changed in the future, for the better.
@HAHAd2
@HAHAd2 Жыл бұрын
And ultimately he wasted time because nothing will change, unlucky
@Teddy-se8qb
@Teddy-se8qb Жыл бұрын
i dont care what anyone says. inertia aka input delay has to be the worse thing to happen to tarkov. somehow i can jump 3 ft into the air and jump on boxes with 50kg on my back. i can sprint and jump futher than usain bolt. but i cant change direction in a swift simple manner that a toddler is more capable of.
@Teddy-se8qb
@Teddy-se8qb Жыл бұрын
you have to jump to get on top of a 1ft ledge. you cant walk on it. i have to jump over a 3 ft fence. i cant simply vault (too cod for some) over it. this game feels like absolute shit. its like these pmcs just recently had a stroke and are re learning how to walk and run again.
@SweatyBallsSuck
@SweatyBallsSuck Жыл бұрын
@@HAHAd2 You can't change expect change if you do nothing. Quit being a downer.
@HAHAd2
@HAHAd2 Жыл бұрын
@@SweatyBallsSuck you can’t expect change regardless when it comes to bsg, be realistic
@bonk902
@bonk902 6 ай бұрын
It is so good to know that with the 0.14 patch I truly think that tarkov has taken this feedback and the game has truly improved it.
@LaMainy
@LaMainy Жыл бұрын
Way to make a strong point man. How do you get so invested and put in so much effort though!?
@lucienlalachance
@lucienlalachance Жыл бұрын
I SWORE the no movement while blindfiring was a bug. Nobody talked about it and I just couldn't comprehend why BSG would do such a crazy thing. Thank you for this, I think you are the most helpful tarkhov youtuber. Another great video.
@BenitoDiMalta
@BenitoDiMalta Жыл бұрын
That's why you, Veritas, are the best content creator of this game. I really admire your work and your way of analyzing in a "design based" way. Thank you! PS: That COD footage really shows a realistic recoil system... imagine if Tarkov had that recoil. People would think twice before crossing a street doing zigzags and hops because they would be hit multiple times, the tarkov way. Actually, a "COD recoil and movement" could achieve the desired slow, tactical paced combat Nikita wants!
@anselmbuder
@anselmbuder Жыл бұрын
Lol for real, had the same thoughts. I don't play any CoD, but when I saw these clips I just thought "man, if gunplay / recoil in Tarkov would be like that, I'd be amazed!"
@tukus9133
@tukus9133 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I love when the dumbasses say, "we don't want unrealistic recoil like COD". Bitch, *the Call of Duty recoil IS more realistic!*
@the_deadofwinterofficial
@the_deadofwinterofficial Жыл бұрын
even if they decided to cross ...if they have armor that works they might make it and be able to engage again. the overall flow of the fights are not as fun right now.
@fattysco2960
@fattysco2960 Жыл бұрын
Very well made video taking many things into account, well done per usual Veritas. Where is the video from at 11:38?
@husky7196
@husky7196 10 ай бұрын
7 months later and this video becomes is still horrendously accurate, really too tragic it wont change for the better
@Gwibz0001
@Gwibz0001 Жыл бұрын
This is my favourite video you've made, I really hope Nikita sees this, sits down and really has a think about the direction the game is going in. Thank you for everything you do for the community.
@JS-qb7he
@JS-qb7he Жыл бұрын
I love the fact Veritas only hinted at the massive cheater problem. My 4th wipe now, and when I started I was never sure of cheaters, last wipe was 1 in 15 raids you would have no doubt. Now 1 in 5 if you are lucky, and they are so blatant about it.
@Gwibz0001
@Gwibz0001 Жыл бұрын
@@JS-qb7he Probably because there is nothing to say that hasn't already been said a million times before on the topic. There are, has been and always will be cheaters, the more popular the game gets the more there will be. Its an on going battle in every single game, but with the real world monetary gain Tarkov can provide, the problem gets 100x worse. The only thing you can do is report sus players when you see them, and hope that the anti-cheat catches them if they are cheating. On a side note, all I could think of during the end montage is how much I want the old optics back. GIVE ME MY PK-06/MRS BACK NIKITA!!!
@qbbus2650
@qbbus2650 Жыл бұрын
I have not played Tarkov "back then" and i didn't even realize some of the old features were in the game at one point, but this video really made me wish they make some changes. I like Tarkov the way it is now, but the ideas of the old Tarkov seem a lot more enticing and could make the game a lot less frustrating and a lot more fun to play. Thanks for the video, really well made!
@nexus3756
@nexus3756 Жыл бұрын
I agree with everything you said. I feel like the game has been going into a direction where they don't make it "realistic" they make it extremely punishing and unrealistic in the opposite direction. It has frustrated me greatly to see alot of these changes over time especially the ridiculous recoil with my beloved Kalashnikov rifles. I am glad to see the team listening and making those adjustments to improve the game in ways That I think are actually more realistic.
@randomgamer5633
@randomgamer5633 Жыл бұрын
Absolute banger video! I totally agree although only playing the old version once on a friends setup to which I popped a lvl 60 with a Glock and felt like a total badass and loved the games mechanics
@thisisme357
@thisisme357 Жыл бұрын
Man, alpha player here who hasn't felt the love for Tarkov in a while. This video really helped put into perspective how I feel. Those old clips bring back the love I had for the game. Thanks for caring
@crownember560
@crownember560 Жыл бұрын
I had the same feeling even though i only started 3 years ago. Sure it wasn't the "og" tarkov but it was still in a really good spot. But i kept falling out because the only people i could get in a group with were extremely toxic and wouldn't let you stick around if you weren't good enough or would use you as bait and such. And i hated playing solo. Getting 1 tapped only told me i was in a bad spot or i did something to get noticed it didn't teach me all the things i did wrong
@mrunitforge
@mrunitforge Жыл бұрын
I haven't played for the last 4-5 wipes because of this. The exiting montage made me see the game I fell in love with. Not the spreadsheet-ridden shitfest that we have now
@NoodleByNight
@NoodleByNight Жыл бұрын
The hero we need but don’t deserve. Congratulations on cracking through. I fully believe your willingness to put this together facilitated a step in the right direction. I just hope they keep moving.
@SLAY3R8888
@SLAY3R8888 Жыл бұрын
I think this video was so well received because of all the clips you included showing how cracked at the game you actually are. I'm sure you opened the eyes of a lot of people who incorrectly assumed that you're just "bad" at the game. Great job, you are an inspiration to small creators such as myself.
@gavinpowell4607
@gavinpowell4607 Жыл бұрын
He is average at the game man, come on.
@Marth667
@Marth667 Жыл бұрын
I'll never understand how being shot in the arm deletes your stamina. Even hits to the torso wouldn't make you winded unless it was a slug or some high calibre that has significant stopping power. Such a jank mechanic.
@PINPAL
@PINPAL Жыл бұрын
While I'm a very new player and never experienced anything before the current wipe, I still agree with lots of this stuff. I like the realism this game provides but some times it feels that it tried to be "too real" to the point that it feels like I'm controlling a toddler with 4 missing limbs instead of a highly training PMC - in turn breaking the "realism" and immersion feel of the game.
@annguyenlehoang7779
@annguyenlehoang7779 Жыл бұрын
:') watching face cam of PMC on both side in Ukraine war i feel like we are peasant soldier training in 2 days and being thrown into war zone then a true PMC with high skill .
@trauma5288
@trauma5288 Жыл бұрын
I had really forgotten what it was like back then, how I sank countless hours into the game and that would be the only game I would play. I'd get home from work or school and boot up Tarkov immediately, never understanding what I really had. It was around that time I started watching your content and got super invested, it was truly exciting. Now, I can barely play the game for 30 minutes to an hour, this video was one of the biggest nostalgia hits ever. Thank you as always, V.
@catbox7958
@catbox7958 Жыл бұрын
Me too man. Me too.
@Sp3ich3rr4tt3
@Sp3ich3rr4tt3 Жыл бұрын
Same for me. . It was so much fun back then. The pvp felt so rewarding. I started to play less and less the more time went on. Something changed until the game just wasnt fun anymore
@MissinginAction
@MissinginAction Жыл бұрын
as somebody who started on 12.12 and found ways to play the alpha and old builds of EFT, yes, the game was better. it felt more realistic, like i was in control. deaths were fair, kills felt rewarding, the graphics were better, etc.
@liamsplace1
@liamsplace1 Жыл бұрын
Amazing video. Sadly me and my friends have given up on Tarkov in its current state. We realised we were only playing to try and recreate the feeling we got from 2018-2020 tarkov.
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