Is This The Most Realistic Live Steam for OO Gauge?

[@GBRf66715_]

As the owner of this locomotive, I am so proud of what Kyle over at TRS Trains has done to it. From the Smoke to the Respray ; to the light and the sound, it has been worth every penny, and it is amazing to see how many people like it! I'm very happy that you have enjoyed it too Jennifer! Happy Steaming!

[@arthouserailway4214]

What an Awesome model you have, Kyle has knocked it out of the park! This is definitely the way of the future, looks so real running on Jennifer’s layout.

[@globalgumboots]

This is amazing, what's the cost of all the upgrades you had. Can't seem to find a website just Facebook with no pricing? Thanks Chris

[@TrainTalks67]

How did you get this? Or only chosen people sent one of these models and nobody can buy them?

[@stevelloyd1421]

This is the most impressive advancement I have seen in model railroading since the advent of DCC. While I am sure this is a bespoke service offered by Kyle of TRS Trains I would love to see him patent his invention and possibly license it to the mainstream manufacturers and and take it mainstream. In the short term, I am sure many of us are interested in rough prices for his bespoke services and or the availability of his kit for our own fitting. I hope to see more information on pricing and availability soon. Another great review as always Jennifer!

[@jeremyjs8863]

This is nuts - love the fire box lighting effect too !

[@williamcox3958]

What a brilliant model on a really good model railway set

[@rsambrook]

Lovely model. I won’t use bottled water either as the water is sourced from the ground will contains minerals. Use ironing water and it will smell nice, or distilled water. Collected water from a condenser tumble dryer is in-effect distilled water (evaporated from your washing then condensed).

[@ChobertonJunction]

Wow! that is impressive. Things have come a long way since I last pinned track to board. I am returning to the craft and I do class it as a craft, after a long tea brake of 40+ years. Will be going through your channel and watching videos to gain insight into how to progress with my layout when I finally get around to building it. Great to see this and will bear in mind for future.

[@JRM-VSR]

It's also good to see the sound (and smoke!) synchronised with the wheel rotation too. Without that synchronisation I find it more immersion breaking than not having sound at all.

[@kiwitrainguy]

The only sound decoders I have in my locos that don't synchronise the chuffs with the wheel rotations are the ones that are from Hornby. ESU, MTH and Broadway Limited Imports all seem to manage it so why can't Hornby? There should be a CV or two that can be adjusted for the synchronisation but they don't seem to have them.

[@EthansTrains]

Wow. Even the repaint looks good! But more to the point, that is amazing and I want one now 😂

[@peterhall4086]

Like you... I'm speechless. That is the best thing I have seen in a long time regarding model rail. This could also be applied to diesels.

[@kiwitrainguy]

ESU have done this (Diesel locos with smoke).

[@Steve_R]

That is so cool. Would be great to use in a train room that had low humidity. Kind of an expensive humidifier. 😀 But I like it.

[@keithshergold9257]

Astonishing! I have never seen such good steam effects! Thanks for the review. I am very surprised.

[@Bigboy4018]

Interesting! First time I've seen a smoke unit working on water.

[@andrewdking]

What about Hornby Live Steam then. Though not strictly a smoke unit, more a complete steam locomotive.

[@madbren]

They have knocked this out of the ball park. What an amazing model can honestly say I don't think any company have ever got it so accurate.

[@duncanwatson9054]

It looks really good. It is good to see the sream and hear the sound matching what the loco is doing.

[@journeytherailswithaarongi4447]

Can’t wait to get my hands on the Mallard Kyle has done for me definitely worth every cent.

[@sonarfreq]

Smoke unit is wonderful, but I have to say that that paint job looks fantastic, I love the sheen on the paintwork!

[@SussexHistory]

This is a better idea than the Hornby smoke oil, as you never know what fumes you are breathing in! Of course steam would do no harm. The only downside would be that the water vapour will condense on the scenary when it is very cold up in there in the winter. However, the colder it is, the more the steam will show up on the camera! Thanks for uploading.

[@lifestyleunleashed8046]

Very impressive. For the first time something that makes sense of DCC for me. A great smoke machine in tandem with the DCC

[@ericholdforth5579]

Love the train and sounds Jenny

[@Gus-jb8cm]

Love the Tornado, absolutely gorgeous. As you say great livery and lots of details... I want one... Please!

[@BeauMinnick]

Wow just WOW! Just think this and a good weathering job and what you'll have!

[@SimonLivertonCentral]

Very nice locomotive with lots of functionality. My Dapol Black Label A4 does all of the same things, plus when I select a whistle I get a jet of steam. It also has all the same lights plus a firebox glow. However, it does have its known issues when operating the A4.

[@andrewdking]

I have one to. I've heard they have issues, though mine so far is well behaved touch wood !

[@ianbaker1279]

Wow!!!! I'm tempted to sell all my locos to get one ! Impressive!

[@mcbenman1793]

That is incredible. It’s a massive step for model trains. Can you run the locomotive on the Monday Club please?

[@moonshinerunner01]

I have to watch this a couple of times. It is amazing. Some people are really clever and a special thank you to Jennifer for bringing this technology to us. The only downside is, now I want one, two, three?

[@GrrMeister]

6:05 *Distilled water ideal that contains no contaminantes, save from defrosting Freezer or buy.*

[@trapdriver7006]

Excellent review and its the best smoke unit I’ve seen to date.👍😀😀😀🚂

[@gerardburton3741]

Hi, I love the effects from this system. Finally something that looks right. Now all they have to do is get the smell right..... :).

[@kiwitrainguy]

That's not a stupid as it sounds either. The smoke fluids that used to be supplied by MTH had various options such as giving the smell of Coal Smoke, Wood Smoke, Oil Smoke and even Bacon & Eggs! Edit - from the MTH 2011 Catalogue here is a list of the various smoke fluids they offered: Christmas Coal Diesel Wood Burning Coffee Eggs & Bacon Vanilla Candy Cane Barbecue Pipe Smoke Cinnamon Roll Apple Pie Unscented

[@robchallis2423]

Excellent video thank you. Impressive filming and great informative commentary. You have another subscriber! Thank you. Take care and stay safe snd well. Rob from the UK

[@PreservationEnthusiast]

Wonderful presentation!

[@JenniferEKirk]

Thanks!

[@oswestryroadtmd4850]

This is most impressive as a die hard analogue user it is going take lot convert me over to dcc. Keep up the good work

[@michaelramsbottom477]

Mikes14xx Just too delivery of 14xx with sound and smoke from trs trains. Amazing loco, really recommended

[@arthouserailway4214]

Wow, didn’t know you could get the steam so synchronised. The paint looks very nice also. This really looks incredible running on your layout. Thanks Jennifer, great review! Only problem is I want one now.😀

[@Jack-hl2zq]

you should give hornby’s live steam a try if you can

[@conrailfan6277]

Very nice Jennifer!!! I wonder if Mouldy Raspberry has seen this!!!

[@hamshackleton]

Amused to count seven chuffs per rev at low speed! Still, vastly better than TTS, which tends to be very random. The smoke effect looks good.

[@kiwitrainguy]

With ESU sound decoders there are two CV's so that the chuffs can be synchronised with the wheel revolutions.

[@Flymochairman1]

It looks and sounds intriguing. I'm not sure of the paintwork but I always tag grey as being more a primer-paint colour though I did like the green off-set in the cab. It looks to be a lot of fun, smashing detail on the Locomotive. Nice features. Cheers Jenny!

[@trstrains9330]

Hi mate. It looks like primer because the real loco whilst she was grey was running around in primer. 'works grey' in fact. Just Google grey tornado. And the green tender end is also prototypical whilst she was in this livery. Anyway, just wanted to say it's not fictional. :) Kyle Trs trains

[@Flymochairman1]

@@trstrains9330 Yes, I saw pictures of it in Heritage Railway in the Grey....Silver Grey if we put a spin on it. !:^) Cheers!

[@akrills]

Brilliant! I am so pleased that I have found you and watched for the first time. Please, if you can, link me to other videos you have created. Well done!!

[@gs425]

Jennifer you mustn't use "bottled water " , but deionised or distilled water. Bottled water would be far far worse than typical tap water as it is full of impurities and would scale up very quickly.

[@andrewdking]

Yes I agree, most bottled water originates from limestone or chalk hills. It's therefore full of hard disolved calcium salts which is a big no no. I doubt whether that little steam unit would like an acid kettle descaler being passed through it.

[@johngibson4641]

Wow wow wow ,, I ABSOLUTELY love it ,, so close to the real thing and closest to real thing that i have seen so far so thanks for showing us this. But the only thing im not keen on is the actual steam produced is water vapour and water vapour falls downwards towards the layout and track where water is not really something that anyone needs near there rolling stock running on track or buildings. If you are running a fair few of these types of locos or had these steam units going there would be a chance of excess moisture getting on the layouts growing mould which is something that are many people are allergic to. Mould produces mould spores which do get airborne are not good for asthmatics or peeps with chest or lung issues. I think if i had a choice i would use no smoke i mean i would let my imagination take its course as it does now. I am Not meaning to try bust anyone's bubble on this awesome idea as it is great and i do like it but it in my oppinion mixing water with electrics and porous material on layouts at large expense in $$$ & labour might not be the best idea for me or my asthma. Just a thougnt and no harm meant by this comment but is something to be considered. Cheers from John in Australia.

[@stuartaaron613]

Fascinating system. While MTH has done decent smoke units in HO and O gauge, they, like the other companies, use smoke "fluid" (oil) for their smoke, which bothers me for both the odor, and wondering what the residue does to the tracks and scenery. This system by TRS Trains that uses bottled water is truly fascinating. No odor or residue to worry about.

[@spamtongspamton9192]

I rode a steam loco yesterday and I found that the smell is also there so there both good but I agree with the residue

[@OlivierGabin]

Agreed. And distilled water costs pennies. You can buy a huge 5 litres container for 2-3 € here in France. And use the bulk for yout electric iron to do your shirts after laundry.

[@Ballinalower]

Great idea to use water. But I can't help being amused how far behind their European and American counterparts UK model trains are. Smoke from the stack synchronized to the chuff sounds has been standard for a long time. I just checked when I uploaded a video of an MTH K4 Pacific with just that. It was 11 years ago. It also had working lights and a cab light. And the model wasn't new even then. And working headlights and marker lanterns have been standard for even longer as has factory sound. I have one 5 year old French loco with synchronized smoke from the chimney and steam from the cylinders on starting. As for close coupling, still very new to the British market, I have an HO train from 1973 with close coupling and power conducting couplings. That was on the market 48 years ago.

[@bigfella1952]

Great review Thanks x The Bigfella x

[@dylansheppardmymodelrailway]

First time subscriber ......Great vid 👌 👍

[@lendusaquid]

I have to add water to my locos as my Hornby live steam will not work without it 😀

[@GregPalmer1000]

Really looks great but one wonders if you added a food colouring to the water to say darken the smoke effect would it seize up the smoke unit?

[@donsharpe5786]

Sorry to correct you. You need distilled or demineralised water to stop scale.

[@ramseybarber8312]

Hi I imagine that the steam emitted would look better on a Cold day like the big ones do.

[@medwaymodelrailway7129]

Nice update like it very much.

[@andrewguttry6886]

Interesting but what happens when the water runs dry? Is there a heating element waiting to burn out? Loco sounds still sound poor-but that's only to be expected with tiny speakers encased in plastic.

[@User-3O3]

Fantastic. I would convert to DCC just for this, although I would have to save up a lot of pockets money. :)

[@mattbov14]

lovely film there Jenny... certainly an insight into the live steam sector. I'm considering purchasing a hornby live steam mallard locomotive. as these have an intresting appeal. have you have any experience with them? regards Matt

[@bobsmodelrailways]

Interesting. Is the speaker in the chimney as well, or in the Tender, still?

[@paulypyro]

wonder if there was a small meshed baffle inside the chimney it might disperse some of the steam jet to make it more bushy when leaving the chimney ?

[@eastmidlandparkway6267]

Hi jenny just subbed to your channel loved the converted tornado l have the same loco that I got in a train pack with Pullman cars do trs trains do a conversion service where you could send your own locos or is it just a one off it’s to see a steam train with real steam I also have hornby evening star with a Sleuthe smoke unit fitted and lamps fitted on the front and fire box flicker it looks good but at the side of the tornado it’s a whole new ball game great video Best wishes Kev Beighton Parkway Sheffield

[@eds-egg]

It looks very diffuse, and disperses almost instantly - not at all like smoke. Smoke generators have their limitations, but are much better in my opinion.

[@evanforst7272]

ive seen this style of smoke (or should i say "steam") system before, in a tomy thomas beleive it or not. I was wondering why this hasnt made it to model trains yet, now it has, it looks fantastic!

[@robyn051]

I think I had the same TOMY Thomas growing up

[@ronb4113]

Great video, very good effect .would be nice to have such a smoke unit for building in yourself

[@JackSassyPants]

If that's water vapor instead of glycol then the humidity of the room will have a significant impact on the amount of steam that lingers in the air. if you increase the humidity you might get more

[@georgebottarini1788]

Awesome

[@davidwatts1871]

Just wondering how much would it cost me to buy the locomotive as seen in this video?

[@realnutteruk1]

My bet is that they're using an ultrasonic atomiser to create puffs.... they're really cheap and readily available....

[@TrainTalks67]

How did you get it? And how do we order one?

[@jamesgilbart148]

That's astonishing realism - as you say, so much better than oil-based 'steam' simulators. I wonder if the water vapour emitted could be a problem with card structures over or next to the track or is there too little to have any effect?

[@gs425]

The amount of vapour given off in the 30 min running period is far less than from the person operating it. Yes us people exhaust lots of moisture !!

[@jamesgilbart148]

@@gs425 Thanks - good point - we humans are quite prolific steam emitters! It seems to me that the TRS system looks more realistic that the defunct Hornby Live Steam system - and a lot less trouble.

[@richardswiderski4985]

Great video Jenny looks good but at what price.

[@robbyboy03]

That is just brilliant. Does TRS have many locos in their range?

[@malcolmmyatt9092]

Brilliant.

[@craiglockridge7667]

Hay good looking loco but you know them America cars on your layout thank you JK you have made my day in my life in train,s love 💕 ya

[@simonalexandercritchley439]

First realistic model steam I have seen.Better than the stinky oil heaters. Do you need distilled water or is boiled OK? All it needs now is steam coming out the cylinders and other places to match the real steamers. Do TRS do a diesel as well ?

[@kiwitrainguy]

It should be distilled water.

[@DaveInBridport]

I remember Synchrosmoke on Hornby locos in 60s.

[@MRacer001]

have you used a gaugemaster smoke system? i would love to see a comparison video between the two

[@ickhamroad9635]

That's amazing, very impressed.

[@kittonsmitton]

perhaps half a drop of dark food grade colouring would make the steam more visible?

[@TrainTalks67]

Where do you order the train?

[@austin12ascot]

Hi, are these locos available for sale? Thanks.

[@JenniferEKirk]

It can be difficult to find pre-fitted live steam locomotives for sale because it's still quite a niche area right now. Your best bet is to contact TRS Trains directly on their facebook page facebook.com/trs.trains/ for details.

[@TegusChromis]

I suspect it would be even more impressive running in a cold, damp room

[@neiloflongbeck5705]

The problem with lamps is that there are too many combinations to make it practical for RTR models. Whilst the steam many be tuned to the motion of the cylinders the amount of steam is far too small. It looks more like the exhaust of a diesel locomotive.

[@chrisbailey4254]

Wicked !

[@brianharper9754]

Jenny what do you think of Hattons giving Hornby two million pounds to help them out of there financial problem.

[@Lennon6412]

What is this?

[@TegusChromis]

Are you sure? There does not seem to have been any recent falls in the share price and their latest financial statement (13/04) sounded reasonably positive.

[@johngibson4641]

Jeez the money they charge for there products they should be much much much rich and in profit not being broke.

[@kiwitrainguy]

What would Hatton's be getting in return for that 2 million?

[@garthclose2233]

Hi from Garth Close from South Africa I'm looking for 19500 HO skail cars models

[@realnutteruk1]

If "OO live steam" isn't clickbait, I don't know what is.... cool tech, but not as cool as I was hoping for,,,,

[@hughoconnor9172]

While quite impressed by this method I look forward to the day when someone actually makes something that reproduces steam exhaust from the cylinders. That would be an advance!

[@andrewdking]

The Dapol Black Label A4 ejects smoke through its whistle when activated and the smoke out of the funnel is synchronised.

[@kiwitrainguy]

Some German-made locos have cylinder smoke (steam) but because of it being HO it just pours out of somewhere under the smokebox so doesn't look that impressive.

[@hughoconnor9172]

@@kiwitrainguy Towards the end of steam in the UK, because of reduced maintenance etc there were a couple of engines that actually looked like that description - although it was steam not smoke😀

[@kiwitrainguy]

@@hughoconnor9172 We had the same in NZ as well. lol

[@mitchcardosi92]

That’s not live steam

[@HeavensGremlin]

It's great - but it's not 'live steam'.

[@kleedhamhobby]

Interesting. But steam effects are definitely NOT the same thing as 'live steam', so your title is seriously misleading. It is well established and long established in the model railway community that 'live steam' means an arrangement where the model is actually driven by a steam engine - not an electrical motor, but actual steam driving pistons in cylinders. Boiling some water in an electrically driven loco does not make it 'live steam'. If anything, it's dead steam.

[@eds-egg]

It's not even real steam created by boiling water, bur rather atomised water particles that create a fine mist.

[@ModelTrainsTV]

Bottled water; ABSOLTELY NOT. Its twice as hard as tap water. Not even deionised or fridge melt. Use zero parts per million distilled water eg from OO Live Steam Club. A characteristic of real OOLS is much more steam when it's cold and humid. Interesting this but the fun of real OOLS is that the .models actually behave like and have to be driven like the real thing. Nothing fake.

[@matthewpeter]

No as its not live steam

[@hollyruston2444]

Still not in synch with the motion though.

[@2010ditta]

...and it still sounds rubbish!!

[@melvynwoodman5787]

I hate to say it but I agree. Steam sounds seem to be very unconvincing compared to the diesel offerings.

[@paulrounding5260]

Agree Tim, probably recorded on a naff phone. Next thing is to have black smoke when shovelling coal into boiler. 😁

[@trainman864]

What a disappointment - this is not a live steam locomotive. 'Live steam' in the model train world means the wheels are actually turned by steam in the cylinders - as in the well known Hornby OO A4 - not by an electric motor.

[@Mythocentric]

Playing devil's advocate here, but the thought of all that water vapour cooling and settling on my very expensive models and electronics does not inspire me to jump in, especially with a number of fitted loco's in action!

[@jameshardy4354]

It looks like hornby are designing something similar hornby copying peoples ideas again

[@steamon2]

Answer NO I build real yes real live steam locos the steam drives them along no steam no go

[@phil36310]

Yes, so what ? A bit more tech - and background info would be welcome instead of only exclaiming superlatives and swimming around the pond. You call this a review or what ??

[@jag74656]

Cnvn?!!0!& Bob go

[@johnkulpowich5260]

Throw away. Your transformers

[@benters3509]

Another bloody model railroader that can't help saying "PROTOTYPICAL". What's wrong with you guys?