Jay-Z - Growing apart from Dame Dash (10/2003)

[@louisj6399]

I've watched hours of Dame interviews. I love his Wisdom. However, I dont know how anyone can be in a room with him for more than 2 minutes. His mouth is his gift and curse.

[@akendon7260]

Exactly. Most times when a man runs is mouth like a woman and all emotional, it rubs people the wrong way especially those in today's business world and will turn them off. Dame personality might work in the streets or hood but not in the business world. If you look at most successful men, they don't run their mouth too much, rather calculative like Jay Z. Jay Z biggest asset people often miss is his demeanor and professionalism despite not having a higher education. This has allowed him to relate with men of status like Warren Buffett, Obama, banks and capital firms CEOs to raise capital. Despite the fall out with Dame, Jay Z remained cultured, even in this interview stayed respectful of Dame and refused to attack or divulge fallout. But Dame goes everywhere crying foul!

[@tyheemdowney5204]

All of us have that same gift and curse

[@alejandromoreno5056]

wisdom?

[@melvinlovejones]

That’s grown up status. People can grow apart and there still be love. No two people are alike and every man is an island

[@americanking3320]

melvin jones .....take dat take dat ...👏👏👏👏👏

[@americanking3320]

melvin jones experiencing this right now with a long time child hood friend! I'm evolving and he just wants to BE!😑🚬🍺

[@melvinlovejones]

AMERICAN KING 💯

[@dantefranklin3942]

B E Ans

[@lionelkennedy1394]

Very good point.

[@eagleeye8916]

He evolved and was the best talent out of the group. He was better off going his way owning his master's, and creating tidal . He knew his worth and blew up .

[@FukYoDeal]

Eagle Eye Right after blueprint I think jay knew or had a idea of where he thought or could take it trillz

[@DavidLee-vp3nr]

honestly, after vol 2 he didn't really need dame.

[@heatholderinc4961]

I wonder if it really was over the women like #chokenojoke is saying.. I love the way Jays never publicly smashed on Dame

[@LittySmitty]

@@LadyIsTheChamp EXACTLY

[@MYNAMEISKLAY]

He didn't create Tidal, but I agree. Sometimes you grow away from some people. Everyone isnt meant to be in your life forever, unless you are ready to work extra hard to keep em in your reach

[@TFRANCHISETHERILLA]

After a certain point - Dame didn’t bring anything to the table. He said it, they were focused on expanding the Roc. But Jay WAS The Roc and he became WAY bigger than the Roc. Dame didn’t make Jay, Jay’s talent made Jay. Yes Dame helped Jay get in position and Dame was compensated appropriately for that, BUT that doesn’t mean that Jay owes him or is obligated to split the money with Dame forever.

[@Mr._X84]

Well said.

[@nekdawg4806]

💯%TRUTHS

[@KILLAEAGS38]

Jay z ain't shit ....Kanye run that

[@James67851]

Dame says to Don't ask me ask Jay and Jay says the same thing Don't ask me ask Dame. That's real. No chatty Patty between men.

[@bkallday2998]

Divide and Conquer.........Jews

[@mariezforbes]

so refreshing to see

[@youngdexter4516]

"Jay ain't shit"-Dame on No Jumper 2019

[@0Lu.Lu0]

To this day you got unintelligent lil bitches that won't leave it at that.

[@ima_starate_t_2536]

Real men

[@marvmoney9453]

True we all grow apart at some point in time we have to evolve and do things that suit us

[@Insertwittypunchlinehere]

“We’ve always been polar opposites.” Very telling....

[@IAMASAVAGECREATOR-]

Kayla T shocked by that cause I know the whole story there a lot a like

[@JohnDoe-gc1kt]

@@IAMASAVAGECREATOR- explain

[@mzmav720]

@@IAMASAVAGECREATOR- yeah explain. I wanna hear your theory.

[@lionelkennedy1394]

Kayla T .. Jay-Z said himself that they are polar opposites. What reasoning do you have to believe otherwise??

[@IGH414]

They were nothing alike lol.. Dame always loved attention, the spotlight and was loud and obnoxious af.. jay always was kinda reserved and introverted. U can see it since the beginning of time.

[@thaxtonwaters8561]

Very interesting dynamic. Dame (although TRUTHFUL) rants very emotionally like an Artist. Jay (although the Artist) is on the surface calm and emotionally detached like a businessman.

[@CustomFitted]

Great take

[@Prod_by_Svengali]

Ironic much?

[@mowilliams9555]

Jay speaks like an introvert, a thinker, a poet.

[@ghazillion]

Very poignant perspective

[@thaxtonwaters8561]

@James Crawford Jr He's a business, man. 😆

[@augustustyler6903]

Two alpha males can't survive together in the same jungle. Eventually, each one has to conquer on his own.

[@tha1man744]

that’s all

[@uzo9887]

Not sure if that applies for their situation. Dame tells a different story.

[@werearethedreamteam3724]

Greed my friend that will do anybody in

[@WO2411]

Greek European logic, not true at all

[@werearethedreamteam3724]

@@WO2411 greed is what's fuels society and because of that.We are way ahead of our technology like 20 years or so that we don't suppose to be..

[@_easymoneysniper_]

Sometimes things just don’t work out, doesn’t mean there ain’t love ✊🏽

[@cashgogetter6737]

Tell my cousin I love him, but all good things must come to a end- Kevin gates

[@waz1167]

Facts. It's not always a beef with partners split. Growing apart happens as people grow and want to take on new challenges.

[@slr-d]

most people have too much ego to admit it but hes lifetimes ahead of most of us. He just gets it! gotta #respect it 🙏🏾

[@abrahampalmer8761]

Exactly that's why people around Jay Z era was so envious of him because of Jay Z mindset and intelligence and drive to be the best version of himself

[@slr-d]

@@abrahampalmer8761 and can you imagine how heavy that hateful energy was *BACK THEN???* Now more people are getting up to speed, but BACK THEN?????? Hov was and still is Lifetimes away

[@abrahampalmer8761]

@@slr-d you know what I call it crabs in the bucket mentality you don't want to see others succeed because of envy one time hov was actually better than nas and that's the truth especially around 98-2001 when nas wasn't living up to his full potential and trying to be someone who he is not.

[@zaynukem]

So if your homeboy goes behind you back snakes you cuts you out of agreed partnerships then you should just accept it because he just ahead of everyone else cool I understand that

[@michaelbenson6386]

@@zaynukemall three agreed to sell nobody got cut out of a deal they was supposed to be apart of

[@stacknsat]

Definitely the smartest maneuver hova at a turning point in his career

[@ChrisJProductionz]

Jay and Dame were like Avon and Stringer, both of their objectives was to be on top and expand but they had two completely different ways and strategies to go about it.

[@DarrinWilliams-wq3su]

So is Jay Stringer? He didn’t make it

[@ojpistorius6369]

Jay stays in control effortlessly Dame yells screams and struggles constantly feel some form of control

[@eugenemarshall604]

🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣

[@ayeayelolololol5118]

Well said 🤣🤣

[@ATP2555ify]

State Property lmao

[@truckinon1871]

Thank you Jay Z for setting the record str8. Y’all cool but on different paths.

[@wayneodhiamboo]

Top much flossing. Too much Sam Rothstein.

[@melvinlovejones]

Wayne Odhiambo yep.

[@checkoutmyplaylist6047]

Had to divorce em

[@harlslee8747]

What the fuck you doing on tv anyway*

[@lorenzoburton3974]

Facts but Jay never put out another album that ROC’d the world like the ones with Dame

[@incangeneral7996]

@@lorenzoburton3974 Wow never thought about this. But you're right. Lyrically he's still dope but song wise hasn't been nowhere near the span 96-03

[@hiphopforlife7502]

Jay Z is smooth as fuck. Lol look how he answered the question

[@jodimarcio9794]

Very

[@godsongodson7435]

Damn this Nigga Jay knows how to answer questions so professionally 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@joyi-joyijalifamabunda5531]

spoken like a true gentleman

[@darryllawler8707]

Growing apart is life.

[@jaronshalalproductsllc2622]

I respect Jay-z & Dame dash. I think that they are both great business men and a great inspiration for the black community.

[@YoungoneYoung-lm4xe]

You cant be the boss and the buddy.Business is never personal.

[@chaunceychappelle2173]

My number one Partna of all time and I just had a conversation sort of about the same thing... we are doing much better off doing our own thing. Nothing wrong with it and a friend should want to see you grow.

[@beyhiveafrica8672]

Jay is a genius

[@JohnDoe-gc1kt]

@Nicklas Mudymba bingo

[@daviddigregorio5840]

@Cheryl Glover i always found it curious that his whole crew got arrested with dope on the table while he was conveniently performing in london england very early on in his career.... very very coincidental.

[@bingram5645]

@MrTruboy boy stop, Jay is a killer. He street capability is stronger than any of them. He has more soldiers, attorneys, and money making businesses than most music moguls.

[@werearethedreamteam3724]

It's the lucifer that gives him everything.

[@pedrogates3189]

@@daviddigregorio5840 what liar did you get this story from ?

[@AdrianJr]

Just another reason why I respect Jay. 1:58

[@ladytln8]

The best growth I ever saw. Team Hova!

[@Qmorrison1017]

All-day every day 👐

[@mosescooley]

Lady fan huh? I like that! Smart.

[@GeriDoc8]

Y'all ain't about it wtf you talking about?? Lol. Acting like y'all apart of Jays team or some shit smh

[@waxdoe115]

@@GeriDoc8 SMH he a SNAKE 🐍 just like her husbandless ass.

[@BG-mn6di]

@@waxdoe115 well damn big homie

[@jonathanjohnson7636]

Jay TOO smart!!🥇 (Bad and good)

[@seniorblanco4126]

Never once have I heard Jay sh*t on Dame or anything he's done but when they ask Dash its a completely different response.

[@grovedwayne390]

💯 0:48 Jay confirmed what Steve Stoute said. Jay wanted more and like Irv said Jay was already making business moves by himself even while being copartners at the Rocafella. He really didn't need anyone

[@jkweili]

Jay is passive aggressive, he throws rocks then hides his hands….u better believe that in real life Jay is making sure doors don’t open for certain ppl.

[@seniorblanco4126]

@@jkweili and you know this how?

[@jkweili]

@@seniorblanco4126 u can see how he moves, and then listen at old interviews and how Jay tell a story then listen to someone else tell THE SAME story and someone else tell the SAME STORY, Jay story always different, it’s not really anything I can explain u just have to pay attention through the years, I tried sooooo hard to like Jay back in the 90’s but i can’t, u can even listen to ppl he grew up with tell how he was moving, Jay has kids he don’t claim, that is not respectable at all, he is VERY passive aggressive, I know u may like/love him but the truth is the truth…not judging him just observing.

[@seniorblanco4126]

@@jkweili I'm assuming you're speaking about Dame, Dehaven or Jaguar Wright because I haven't heard too many other people say he moves funny. On the flip side of them there's Bleek, Biggs TyTy, Lil Wayne, Jeezy etc who says otherwise. All I know is we can't please everyone and including him. How do "you" have proof that he has kids he doesn't take of?!? Neither you or I know the truth because we don't know, interact or do business with that man so I'm not going to judge him off another person's relationship or experience with him.

[@mikegee6523]

“Growing apart .. not in a bad way .” Say it louder people don’t seem to understand this .. in life you grow your priorities change goals change doesn’t mean there is beef

[@dawnlee866]

Exactly

[@jasonwaterfalls9615]

I really respect Jay’s outlook here now that I matured as a man.

[@muygalan]

JAY-Z was 34 years old when he did this interview.

[@classyy_one]

33 actually he was born 12/4/69 this took place 10/2003

[@anilgill6846]

For me, my Uncle dropped knowledge when he found my phone book with over 100 names (yeah 90's). He said: "1 friend in a lifetime is plenty, 2 is too much and 3 is hardly possible.' Got give 50 a shout out here: "fake friends show fake love, you know the type that will leave you at the club." Deep stuff!

[@seanmason4679]

Tony Yayo said that, not 50. Smart guy 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@andrewmohlala3262]

that laughter😏😏😂😂😂😂... I remember Denzel Washington impersonating him...lmfao😂

[@GRUSTLER]

Jay Z politically correct answer. Keep it classy.

[@comb87]

I wish they could've found a way to make things workout the Roc was the shit I miss those days💯

[@jondoe406]

Jay-z wanted Dame and Biggs to take a smaller cut. If jay wasn't so greedy, the Roc would still be poppin

[@Matemo]

Never understood why folks side with an artist's manager. He doesn't rap or sing. A bit like Denzel falling out with his manager and I take the manager's side. It'd never happen. The manager didn't act his chops off in Malcolm X. Denzel did. I don't care what he did for Denzel on the come up. Important as they are, I don't mistake agents and publicists for the real talent. I'm in this for the entertainment only. Industry drama is fun to read but Jay is clearly the talent. Many consider him one of the greats. And Dame is what exactly? He's not even on Master P's level, let alone Berry Gordy. Really should've stayed in food & beverage.

[@senatetransportationservic4660]

The important thing I took away from this interview was 2:07

[@carefreelandon1734]

Now we know that Dame is a chatty patty

[@dawnlee866]

Yes

[@dangelmonroe-collier2347]

Pray they can solve whatever problem it is within the industry or business. Wishing both of them the best.

[@hermanbooger5431]

Money never sleeps.

[@jawansherrod4581]

A Life story anyone could relate to

[@darrellsimon9049]

I heard muthafuckas sayin’ they made Hov made Hov say, okay, so, make another Hov!

[@tyslims2805]

Ahhh when Hov was still accessible

[@rahmansundiata7475]

Jay Z is BIG IN THA MIND HE SURPASSED DAME. TRUTH BE TOLD

[@WORLDWIDESOCAL9]

cause he snitched

[@SonOfBeelzebub]

Jay Z is not a chatty patty like Dame Jay responded like a man

[@dawnlee866]

Exactly. He never say anything bad about Dame or the past. They just grew apart. Let it go😂

[@SonOfBeelzebub]

@@dawnlee866 I think this interview gives us an understanding of why Jay Z is billionaire while Dame Dash keeps getting arrested for child support

[@dawnlee866]

@@SonOfBeelzebub right😂😂😂😂

[@SonOfBeelzebub]

@@dawnlee866 I’ll never understand why people still take business advice from Dame Dash

[@dawnlee866]

@@SonOfBeelzebub surprisingly Dame has a a lot of “followers”. I will admit he has the business mentality. Anyone that could create a record label & clothing line gets props. However, he made some bad choices & he talks too much!

[@coogieman4659]

Jay-z is Roc-a-fella records Brooklyn nyc 🔥 🔥

[@diamondmaker425]

Where can I find this complete interview?

[@derrickwright5728]

It’s simple jay-z is the goat of rap and niggas was mad cause he was being a business man and making business moves plain cut and dry ..

[@regnalitystyles5518]

A GENTLEMAN AT THE TRUEST FORM!!!

[@regnalitystyles5518]

@@frankmatthews404 I'D SAY BOTH

[@sherryparker3970]

Jay Z is Intelligent Thinking Separately from the Gang Gang

[@Bongz90]

I can’t believe they were interviewing Jay and Dame about their fall out as far back as 2003

[@whoiscrown]

“If he tell you hes in big trouble “ & thats why hov dont talk to him no more. Quit all the feeling sorry for dame he dug his own ditch

[@Seven-c6q]

Can’t believe he’s Dames son god father and only seen Dame twice in 15 years according to the breakfast club interview, probably ain’t seen his god son in a minute cos of his relationship with Dame lol

[@arcangel4940]

JZ showed who was the real boss and talent peace out ✌️ Dame

[@businesswalks8301]

so awful... jay z should have stayed with the complete losers who insult him, get mad at him, even dame's own family hates him, but jay z supposed to love him... how dare you jay z -- thunderburg

[@xxxxbigrich5752]

Jay has always been one of my top 5 favorite rappers but he did Dame dirty after all these years we know who did what to who! 🐍

[@dawnlee866]

Let God handle Jay but Dame needs to stop talking about the past & move on

[@rahsaanhill5781]

LA And Face. Did the same thing

[@MYKECHEXX]

rahsaan hill they still cool?

[@rahsaanhill5781]

MYKECHEXX yea. They still do business together. But just don’t write and produce together. No more.

[@nathaniel608]

La wanted to deal with business and Babyface wanted to carry on writing and producing

[@kingech_B15]

dam is so mad at jay, he takes it out on lyor

[@SuperRoscoe66]

Jay z never disses dame but dame takes shots all the time jay has principles

[@IAMASAVAGECREATOR-]

BIG NY Lost One

[@MYNAMEISKLAY]

@@SuperRoscoe66 In all fairness though, Jay z seems like the most untouchable entity in the game today. Jay hardly does interviews, so he never really says shit about you. When you do an interview, the first thing they'll ask you is something about Jay. I understand why Dame is always pissed 😂

[@MrMaccntosh7up]

@@SuperRoscoe66 Nah, Jay took plenty of shots @ Dame via his music & their mutual friends/associates at the time. It only looks one sided because of dames personality. Dame attacks head on & calls out names. Jay takes the more subliminal route. If you see 2 people arguing & only one is loud u can assume which one the fool is. The quiet guy can be the one who caused the problem. When they're both loud u can't decipher. It's like throwing a rock then hiding your hand in a way.

[@jondoe406]

@@SuperRoscoe66 the roc broke up because Jay wanted dame and Biggs to take smaller cuts, which isn't what they agreed to. What kinda principles is that?

[@royaljai5009]

Polar opposites Jay is mild mannered with class and Dame is loud and ignorant with no class...

[@mr.miyagi5875]

Wow the takeaway of this convo was the laugh at the end

[@vblanci-7149]

1:57 when dame made cam VP of the label

[@viddyfunnyvideo3783]

something about jay z in this video say's serial killer he's cold now he's older he's even deadly people fear him

[@driskolestateshow]

Just can't get a direct answer. What made you do a deal to cut Dame out? And vice versa. If ever the case.

[@misterrandywatson5432]

“I heard motherfuckers saying they made HOV”

[@rickyjeepz1988]

Thats what's kills me when people with there little podcasts start telling people that leor cohen is the reason that jay left dam ..that leor whispered in jayz (whos a grown man by the way who is known for walkin on his own two preaching independence!) ear and told him he has to leave the roc and go to def jam and he has to cut all ties with dam atleast when it comes to business. I seriously hear that bs and im straight up blown away people believe that. Part of me thinks thats the easy escape goat a very successful and rich white man who has no social media page nor responds to anything or anyone who throws dirt on his name. Sorry just keepin it a buck yall. But jays success starts with his beliefs of being independent and owning his own sh__ dating all way bsck to early early 90s in interviews pre "reasonable doubt" days. So why people can't just except jay say the writing on the walls way before he actually left. He loves dam thats his boy but business wise they are two opposites. He isn't the raa raa dude he would prefer to lay back in the cut listening and learning from people. Every move he has made has been calculated from the jump cause he wanted to take his brand and make it world wide. He never saw color either jay jay had no problem standing next to a white man or a Spanish dude if it meant he would become partners and own everything he put his name on. Where dam who by the way is also a great successful business man but dam did see color and his ego was so big especially when the roc blew up that he started calling everyone in the game who didn't look like him and thought everyone was a "culture vulture " So listen yall jay explains it all in many interviews the reasons people just need to friggin listen! Lol. They grew to be two different people and thats ok theres no hate or beef as he says its the way it works.

[@brandonlcarter9423]

Everybody by now gotta notice how Jay-Z never said anything publicly negative about Dame Dash..Dame on the other hand always shits on Jay and is still angry and bitter over their split . I love Dame too and everything he stands for morality and principle wise..but as a man u gotta know when to cut your losses and not take everything so personal ..true friends can do business together and stop doing business together and still be friends at the end of the day..life is about every man, woman and child going on their own distinctive and chosen path in life

[@dawnlee866]

Exactly. Let it go. U hurt for a lil awhile but then grow & mature.

[@jerryrawlings8885]

Why would he he's rich ! being broke can make you very angry and resentful.

[@brandonlcarter9423]

Exactly

[@richmorris1169]

I like how Hov answers his questions,very non-chalant😎

[@obitriceforlife5771]

Jay-z has got the money laugh hahahahaha

[@sagemode6]

Jay is just way smarter than Dame. Dame just has a big mouth and a large ego.

[@jayc4715]

My boy seen Dame trying to pawn a broken lawn mower at an Ez Pawn

[@adamani08]

There are people in this world who think that there is enough out there for all of us. I am one of those people. If there is $1 million and there are 2 of us. Then we can split 50/50. But there are others who think differently, and they would rather split things up 60/40 or 70/30 then 80/20 to eventually 100 to 0. I work with people like this. If one's goal is to become a billionaire then he can not go on sharing millions with others. Some may think of this as greed, some may think of it as smart. I dont know whether it is right or wrong. How much money do certain people need? That question is not answerable. Strange world we live in. Probably a lot of JZ fans here, who going to be mad. I'm not throwing shade. It is what it is.

[@truthteller5521]

I don’t think it was a matter of Jay Z wanting a bigger split. I think it was Jay recognizing that Dame’s personality would limit Jay’s own entrepreneurial potential. And it turns out, Jay Z was correct.

[@rudolphvalentinowhite5969]

Jay Z said he is the sons God Father.. COLDEST I here a Black man say. He Got Us.

[@jay_its3869]

Dame was misunderstood, he fought for people but didn't get the same thing in return!

[@TempeSoldier123]

Presentation is everything. Everyone that has worked with Dame refuses to work with him again. That’s telling.

[@TempeSoldier123]

@U A You using Kanye West as an example? You think he's in his right mind? Really?

[@trinitypaulson8242]

Dames efforts and accomplishments are lost in translation, because of the method he chose to execute. Remember, people may forget the specific deed, but always remember how you made them feel.

[@jay_its3869]

@@trinitypaulson8242 True, can't knock that!

[@lorenzoburton3974]

There you go violating that trust. 👍🏿

[@EDFlex]

Damn why he ain’t mention dipset ?

[@simonegreene50]

Why would he

[@stereo-type1510]

Jay said a whole lotta nothing

[@kennardwhite2327]

It's like the Jackson 5

[@Director_S]

I respect Jay Z and Dash. What family you know don’t argue and grow apart

[@pulltheskymusicgroup4475]

My role model ✊

[@greenghost3756]

😭😭Dame ain't happy😂😂😂 two different takes on what went down between them

[@tinastreet4428]

Aaliyah and folks gotta start saying this is the real reason between both.

[@brandinginpajamas]

❤

[@hudsonselmour1579]

DIPLOMATIC UNITY IM A BRILLIANNT IDIOT

[@LD-yx2xt]

It’s ok to not want to work with your honor anymore but to play him out of millions and as street guys take a man to court is crazy. Jay wrong period. He pulls strings in the back and act stand up in public

[@nathanhicks2000]

He knows some parts of your life are meant to be laconic! encounters.

[@natalieps2387]

Does jay z get as pissed off as damon does if he is asked about Jay z? I know here he is calm about it but is he usually? Man dame gets so angry in any interview I've seen when asked about Jay. I get answering the same questions is maddening but I think bc jay z came out bigger & much richer & is the talent I sense the jealousy in damon. Like he gets bitter. Probably bc his thing with Jay z is the most successful thing he has ever done while jay z moved way up & beyond that. I saw damon going nuts on some show about u need to be ur own boss. Yes that is ideal but if u start from nowhere u have to have a boss to become the boss. He was running drugs or errands for Harlem drug lords to make his money . I'd say that drug lord was his boss. Him going on about his son & his cookies came from having a father with money & from something I saw recently he has a bad relationship with that son yelling at him " I'm not your daddy " & the son was like " um you actually are my dad " the way damon acts I cant see how he could be partners with anyone.

[@Fitnessislife-t1n]

They do them

[@toneps]

This guys good

[@Unicysis]

It’s a Jacob and Esau situation - these rappers are always out to steal each other’s birthrights

[@As_Sulay]

💿🇺🇸 2:02

[@royalpower369atlantean9]

We came we saw we conquered now we chilling and enjoying our conquest... clout chasers make fake news stories.

[@shervoncastleberry5218]

The best conversation ever heard Oka'e lol loyal loyalty relates....

[@emcee_reggie]

Classic Jay Z laugh hah hah hah hah hah hah

[@jean9421]

Wak jayz a grimmy dude

[@robertthomas9588]

Real nigga shit...helava

[@mauricedixson5105]

Shouldve just stayed in food and beverage. Too much flossin. Too much Sam Rothstein, I ain't a bitch but I had to divorce him, Hov had to get the shallow shit up off him

[@Rose_budd]

Jay a snake

[@AerialPenn]

Dame and Jay breaking up is sad shit.

[@LuisSanchez-id8em]

That's mostly every body in the hoods u have to do you .

[@mronofrio5070]

I feel like Dame and Jay blame each other and don’t really know what it’s about. It was definitely Lyor that drove a wedge between them and they don’t realize that

[@Boognite3211]

Naw Dame was losing the company money and got caught with his hands in the cookie jar!!! That’s why Jay are Biggs don’t F with him